August 14, 2024 • 39 mins
The state of Massachusetts is spending about $1 billion a year on emergency shelters throughout the state. The Boston Globe as well as other media outlets, have tried to examine how the state is spending that much money on the shelter system. Unfortunately, all the records that have been publicly requested have most of the pertinent information blacked out. Where is the money used to run emergency shelters in MA going and how is it being distributed? Those are the big questions that remain unanswered…but why?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice with Dan Ray Undells Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, we are talking about a piece in the
Boston Globe today which is extraordinary, a great piece of journalism,
number one, number one, number two. It is a piece
of journalism that you might not expect from the Boston
Globe because it calls to task the Healthy administration. And
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for those of you who live in Boston, or for
those of you who live in New England, you understand this.
But this is a newspaper which is primarily very friendly
to Democratic incumbents and even Democratic candidates. And I say
hats off to the Boston Globe for basically saying that
this administration, the Healthy administration, has not been forthcoming, has
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not been transparent, has held up information that the public
should have about the migrant crisis here in Massachusetts, about
where they are being housed, much money is being spent.
Information can be released without putting anyone in danger. I
guarantee you that people in communities like Rockland and communities
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like Taunting, where there are in Norfolk, for example, where
there are shelters, people know where those shelters are. In
those shelters, they need to have adequate security and protection
and no one is suggesting that those individuals who are
taking advantage of that generosity should be in any way
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harassed or bothered. However, the people who are paying for
that generosity, taxpayers in Massachusetts, have a right to know
how the money's being spent, in what way it's being spent,
who it's being spent on, who's benefiting it from it,
Because the people who are benefiting it from it beyond
the migrants are the owners of the hotels, either individuals
or corporations, the owners of the taxi cab companies who
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are benefiting for the no bid contracts, the owners of
the restaurants we're providing food, the owners of the laundry services.
That's what we're talking about. Okay, it's as simple as that.
Hats off to the Globe, Hats off to Stephanie Ebert,
or Ebert and Dedre Fernandez, the two writers on the
Globe staff who wrote this piece in the Globe today.
I can be critical of the Globe, as you know
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I can be, but at the same time, in fairness
and in the spirit of honesty, you got to take
your hats off to them. We're going to get back
to the calls we now have Pauline who has joined us,
and I'm sure she is off the speakerphone. Pauline, welcome back,
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Dan, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You are more than welcome. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
This is what I want to share, Pauline. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Pauline, I'm sorry I missed what you said. There for
a second, slow down, did you say you've gotten can?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I can barely hear you up, very hard of hearing,
so I'm sorry I don't hear you. I want to
share with you in irony that you might not know about.
Has a motel which is housed by migrants. It was
one of the first residents anywhere. It's probably been going
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on for over a year. But earlier this evening. In
the last two days, you've talked about Nashova Valley Medical Center,
which is also an air The governor is paying for
the hotels the residents in the motel, but can't come
up with the same amount of money to save our hospital.
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And I think that's an important irony that I would
like more coverage about.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I agree with you. I hope you can hear me.
I agree with you. It is ironic that the Nashova
Valley Medical Center is likely to be closed by the
end of the month, while millions of dollars are probably
being spent at the hotel and air to house people.
I couldn't agree with you more and I'm so glad
you called. Is this your first time calling?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's the first time I've called you. I've talked to
your predecessors of things I thought I would share because
I think you are. The three first time callers were
all man, and I thought you needed a female in there.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, I must tell you the four callers before you
were named. I lean from wal Dam, I leaned from
how Pauline, yourself and Kathy, and now you're coming back.
So we're running a streak here of four female callers,
and we had we have a very good share of
females who call nightside. We get about thirty five percent
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of our callers are female. I wish it was fifty
to fifty. But I think a lot of women callers,
for some reason, aren't as anxious to talk about politics
as guys are. It's like guys at the bar. They're
always ready to jump in and talk about politics or sports,
and women are a little more refined. In many respects
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and even I would say more intell than a lot
of men. But I want I encourage people of all backgrounds,
of all you know, all types of backgrounds to participate
in the call.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I certainly appreciate the compliment for our women out here.
We do listen to you all the time. I'm sure
a very good friend of mine has been in touch
with your producer about the Nashoba Valley Medical Center issue
several times. Yes, but I think if you could have
lightning look into the motel thing and link them up,
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that would make for a most interesting discussion.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I agree with you, and I'm glad we've opened
it up. And I hope there are more people who
are up in your neck of the woods right now,
up in the air Orange, you know, Fitchburg area, Lemonster area.
That affects more than people just from air, but all
those surrounding communities up there, and I hope they will
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call in and support what you're saying, because you're right,
it is it's it's almost well, it is sad. It's
almost tragic that money that could be used could have
been used to save that medical center. And the Connie
Hospital by the way in Boston has been spent on
people who we have encouraged to come here and we
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didn't have the wherewithal to take care of them. We're
now evicting people. So the Healey administration has upset people
like yourself by inviting people to come here, and now
people who are huge advocates for the migrants are upset
with the Healthy administration because they're starting to evict these
poor people. I mean, it's like inviting someone to come for.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Any will be transporting injuries or necessary services for anyone
living at the motel two far away hospitals, making those
ambulances not available for the taxpayers of air. It's such
a quagmire, it really is. I don't know who let
this happen, but it needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'll tell you who let it happen.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Dement of public health at Devon's. Hopefully there will be
some resolution. They met with the Carnie folks the other
night and it didn't go well. But I think we
will have a different representation tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I hope you do. But I will tell you who.
I hope you can hear me. I will tell you
who let it happen. The leadership, the political leadership on
Beacon Hill, a Democratic governor, a Democratic Senate president, and
a Democratic House speaker. They should have amended that law
a couple of years ago and should have should have
been small enough to say, look, eventually, this wave of
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migrants is going to come to Massachusetts and it's going
to adversely affect our citizens. Can we provide some help
for individuals to find their way here? Maybe? Maybe, but
they're not going to be given the priority, and they're
not going to be living in hotels that we're paying
three hundred or three hundred and fifty dollars a night
for or forever, simple as that. I hope, Pauline, you
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continue to call the program, and I hope you tell
your friends about Night Side. I have spent three nights
this week talking about the Stewart crisis. I'm happy I
have done that, and I'm happy that you have linked
the crisis as it impacts air on the Nishoba Valley
Medical Center with what we're talking about this hour. Thank
you so much for calling.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Thank you so much, Dan, appreciate your your time.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You bet youa we'll talk again.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Call again.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thanks very much. We'll take a break. There's one line
at six one seven two five, four, ten thirty, and
there are two lines at six one seven, nine, three one,
ten thirty. I would like to see these phone lines
just lit up. It's easy to get in right now.
But this is an important subject. And please please realize
that the Globe has done a story today that involved
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real journalism, real journalism, and I commend them for it.
And I hope you'll join me, whether you're a Globe
subscribe are not. The fact of the matter is this
is great journalism. It is it was necessary, it's it
is something that I am very happy to see and
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pleasantly surprised by. And I suspect that in the Governor's
office tonight they are not very happy realizing we're talking
about this, and that the Globe has informed their readers
of this. A lot of the readers on the Globe,
some of them probably going to be upset with the Globe.
But that's fine. That's what happens when you're a real journalist.
We'll be back on Night's Side. Got some lines open,
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Feel free, We're coming back right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
We just had two lines drop off. I don't understand
why people seem to be so impatient. I'm trying to
give people an opportunity to express themselves, but some of
you who are on the line have seemed to drop off. Now,
if you've lost contact with us, call us back as
Pauline did, and we will put you back at the
head of the queue. Six one, seven, two, five, four
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ten thirty six one seven, nine, three ten thirty. Let
me go next to Dawn in Arlington. Gone, you were
next on nice side. Go right, a hit, sirup and darn.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Just a question. I'd use you for an example. I
live in Abington. I would like to go to the
MOTECH school. You live in the shelter. They got an
opening one who's going to get it? You from the
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shelter on me? That's a regular resident.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That's a good question. By the way, do you actually
live in Abingdon Yeah, I misread it. And by the way,
my mistake I introduce you is down from Arlington. I
don't want to confuse people, that's my mistake. Well, I
would hope, I would hope that if you're a fourteen
year old kid, obviously you're not and you're applying to
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to go to a voke tech school in Abington, that
you would get priority over some student who has arrived
here two months ago.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But I must be.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Honest with you, I have no confidence that that is
the way it would work out, because I think they
might say, well, they're all students, now, they're all unequal footing,
let's let's put their names in a hat and see
whose name we draw out.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
But the name didn't go in the hat. They were
told that they have to take this one.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Really. Oh, now you're you're not asking me about a hypothetical.
You're you're telling me about I know that.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Wow, And it wasn't in Abington. I did change some locations.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's okay, that's okay. That is that's that's legitimate. In Kingston,
well I Kidston, if I'm not mistaken, does have a
shelter and so hear of the.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Old Howard Johnson's Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Wow, you know there's an example. Look, can you imagine
if you're a kid in high school, or for that matter,
a kid in middle, middle school or elementary school, and
all of a sudden you have a lot of these
these students who are now going to become your classmates,
and they don't speak English. It's not their fault that
they don't speak English, they've never been taught English. But
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the class is going to the classes are going to
be slowed down, and the amount of subjects that, you know,
subject matter that can be taught, obviously is going to
have to be slowed down. So students who live in
these communities, they they will suffer the consequences.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
And the shell is going to be short term shelter
five days.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah. Yeah, a lot of them they say it's short term. Uh,
and they just don't know that. Look, in some cases,
the the the the bureaucrats, if you will, they don't know,
and so they're guessing. And in some cases the bureaucrats
lie because if they're facing a hostile crowd, as they
faced in Norfolk and elsewhere, there's a lot of bureaucrats
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will say, oh, this is only gonna be tempory. It'll
be thirty days and everything will be back to normal. No,
they know, down deep, this is this is so unfair.
And by the way, you won't have you will find
there will be no shelters in places like Dover and
Sherbourne and Weston and Whaland and Wellesley, all of the
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upper crust communities are going to be spared this. It's
going to be in places like Taunted and places like Quinsy,
and places like Rockland and places like Abington.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
And no, no, we won't get it, Dan, we will
not get it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, maybe you're you're lucky. What I'm saying is.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
The hotel. We don't have public transportation and we don't
have one hotel one.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, well you're fine, but you're you're fine. Let's let's
hope that they don't find that there's some sort of
public building to use them. All right, don look, I
I appreciate, I appreciate your call. And it's good to
know that this this it does really unfair injustice we've
talked about. And whoever, if there is, if that student's
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family wants to be on this show and talk about it,
if they happen to be listening, give me a call,
tome On. We'll have them on, simple.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
As that, because it isn't me but my family.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, well have that person call, Have that person call
me and and and we'll put them on and we'll
talk about it, as simple as that. Because if they
don't call their their their son or daughter, whoever's been
denied admittance. Uh in you know, and and we're based
he said, Hey, you you, as a citizen, are a
second rate applicant for a vote for position in a
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vote tech school. That's just one.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Things are going different now than when with the kid.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Now, well you know what, they always seem to go different.
But but if we don't stand up and address them,
don Thank you so much for your call. It was excellent.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And that that is the truth to him, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Get I got it done. I really do appreciate your call.
Thank you much. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
triple eight nine two nine ten thirty. I have wide
open lines here, and I'll tell you what I'm going
to do. If you are not interested in talking about
this subject, and you're not interested in, uh in commending
the Globe for taking a position which I'm sure is
going to put them at odds with the Healy administration,
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then we'll go to open lines at eleven thirty. It's
as simple as that, this is a really important subject, okay. Uh.
If if you are sitting at home tonight and saying,
you know, I really agree with what Dan's saying, but
I don't want to call, or or maybe Mommy. Someone's
gonna hear my voice and they're gonna look at me
differently tomorrow because they've called. No, this is the time
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to join a chorus and say, first of all, the
Globe did real journalism today. Okay. I don't think the Globe.
Not too often do I commend the Globe. But this
is on the front page of the Globe, page one
above the fold, and it's a great piece of journalism
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that I would not expect to find in the Globe. Frankly, Okay,
So I'm asking you to express your opinions. We've had
a whole bunch of people in the last hour. I
don't know if we're having trouble with our phone lines.
Maybe we are. People have called, they've been up, and
they drop off. I want to give people a chance
to express themselves. That's the purpose of Nightside. If this
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subject is boring to you, if this subject is not
something that's of interest to you, oh that's fine. We
can go ahead and we can we can go open
lines in the next half hour. I prefer not to
six point seven, triple eight, nine, ten thirty. Let me
go to Jim in Vermont. Jim, we don't get many
calls from Vermont. I am thrilled to hear your voice tonight,
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Gorett Ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Jim, how's missive voice of sensibility doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The voice of reason is what my moonicer is.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Well, I think you have the most sensible show on
the radio. But anyway, so Discipilia, we didn't. We're not
dealing with as much of the migrant problem up here
as you ride down there. We are dealing with transparency problems.
We've had a homeless problem up here for many years. Sure,
Vermont is a very very lucrative welfare state. People come
here for all the handouts. We always rate ranked top
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ten in the country for the dollar value which you
can get with all your benefits. And christ you know
we have a drug problem. In like Massachusetts, we have
a very liberal state management. And you know they're all
about the handouts.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But yeah, you're you're the home of Brunie Sanders and
uh and and Patrick Lahey.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I think don't hold against me. Now we have a
Becka ba Lant for a congresswoman who's she's all about
the typical you know, left agenda. Well, you know, at
the Punch, the punch list of climate, climate action, homelessness,
portable housing, the same thing they always talk about all
of that. Absolutely anyways, So you know, we we spent
seventy five million dollars last year housing, uh, housing the homeless.
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And you know it's a big burden on the state
because they don't just get to They just don't get
a hotel room. They get their meals, they get the
EBT card, they get if they can, get a free
cell phone if they have to, the state will give
them iPads, you know, so they can look for jobs. Supposedly.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, right, I'm sure there's a lot of jobs seeking
going on there. I don't think so. What about free laundry.
I hope they get their laundry done at the hotel.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Well I'm not sure about that part, but I.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Know Massachusetts they get free laundry. So I'm telling you
right now you should tell everybody and vermant who's up
there as a migrant that they're missing out on free laundry.
Come down to Massachuset. We got great hotels down here.
We give them food, we give them ABD cards, we
give them a cell phone, and we do their laundry.
For them, you know, help the bird.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
There are a big burden on services up here because
you know, they just do ache the drug problem, the overdoses.
I mean in Burlington, for example, the fire department has
full time crews sitting downtown just to deal with the overdoses,
sitting at the park, you know, they on overtime. And
then the police, you know, the hotels that are housing
these people, they're they're you know, they're nothing but trouble
the police between the drug dealing, the fighting, the prostitution,
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all that stuff that's happened in these hotels. Well, one
thing the state is doing and again we don't have
the money to fix the roads. We just got a
fourteen percent property tax increase across the board everybody, which
you know they will overwhelmingly voted for him and high
five each other. That under the dome is that they're
buying hotels and they're converting them into permanent housing for people.
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And I don't know what the money is coming from
to pay for it, but they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I'll tell you we have found in Massachusetts our governor,
Governor Healey has said, you know, this is not our problem.
It's the federal government's problem to some extensions, correct there,
But she has a Democratic president in the House, in
the in the White House who has maintained and a
vice president and you know in the Naval Observatory who
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who has said for years the borders are secure. Their
borders aren't secure, They're wide open. And Governor Heally has
asked for some financial help from the federal government and
the answers have been crickets. And as a matter of fact,
the federal government has said, no, we've run out of money.
We have no money. We in Massachusetts have to balance
the budget. Eventually, taxes will be going up. Well they
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have gone up in Massachusetts. We have the millionaires tax
now and it will be going up across the board.
And what will happen is more and more people who
are who contribute workers, they're going to get up and leave.
They're going to go to place is like Tennessee and
South Carolina, Texas and Florida. That's that's the trend in
this country.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Well, it's all it's all intentional, Dan, you know that.
I mean, if it wasn't, but they wouldn't be flying
these migrants in the middle of the night when flights
normal don't come into Logan. Okay, this is all planned.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well, they were all upset with Governor DeSantis of Florida
who flew I think it was about thirty six migranes
up and and and did it openly and publicly. They
will they prosecutors, the one who would try to indict
the governor of Florida, and yet they do it under
the cover of darkness and they don't tell anyone. Again,
no transparency, and there's no criticism. This article in the Globe,
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If if you have access to the Global article, the
headline is, you can just go to Google Boston Globe.
Heal the administration withholds key information about hotel contracts.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
And they're all doing it. You know, they're all They're
all all the all these left UH states are doing it.
And I said it's intentional. So one things this is interesting.
If they really care about secure board. You take Governor
Abbert Texas, he took measures to prevent them from crossing
the rivers. Okay, he put in those bullys. Why would
if he's taking measures to prevent illegal immigration across his
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state in New Mexico, why would Why would Biden I
threaten him if he did not remove this. If Biden
really cared about border security, he should be patting them
on the.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Back for well.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
First, first of all, Biden that never cared about border security,
which is one of the reasons that the American public
turned their back on Biden. Neither does the Vice president
the czarina of the of the border. Okay, they looked
at this as look, the Democrats are losing support amongst
traditional Democratic their traditional Democratic base. They are losing support
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amongst Hispanic voters, their losing support amongst black voters. All
the polls show that they need to find another wellspring
of potential voters. And they thought this ten or eleven
million people could be a well spring of voters.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
She's She's not a solution. She's just as bad as no.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, I mean, at this point, I kind of imagine
how Democrats are going to uh support with with any
uh with any excitement uh Kamala Harris, because remember she
ran in twenty twenty and she was out of the
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race literally before the first vote was counted. She has
one denomination, by the way, without ever having announced for
the presidency, without ever securing a vote, without ever holding
a news conference, without ever having a campaign office, anywhere.
I'm calling this the immaculate nomination. I mean, it's incredible,
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it's incredible. Hey, I got to run here, my my producer,
my new producers yelling at me. But that's okay. Jim,
call more often, will you?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I need to hear you talking.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You good to talk.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Thanks, I'm good night.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I have a great one. The only line that's open
is six one seven. My new producer is doing a
great job. Uh. And Jim kintanno. Uh. And he's keeping
me on my toes, which is what he's supposed to.
Dan Cantano, excuse me. I was thinking about Jim and Vermont.
I apologize. I apologize, Dan, it's been a little confusing
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the last hour or so. We'll be back on Nightside
right after this.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I appreciate it. Let me go next to Rick and
Bill Ricca. Rick next on Nightside, go on.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Head swir Hey, Dan, how are you hey? I'm listening
to your show. To not I had a half a
container of ice cream. Probably wasn't the greatest idea, but
it was it was good. And uh, I do care
what you're talking about. I really can't comment too much
about it because I haven't read the articles, but I'm
glad the Hailey administration is being put under a microscope
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these actions, and you know I care, I don't know. Well,
I'm right there.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
With him, obviously everybody should care. I'm delighted that the
Globe has basically held the Healy administration's feet to the fire,
as well as putting their actions under a microscope, because
that's what journalism is supposed to be all about. I
understand that their editorial page is supportive and has been
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supportive of the governor, which is fine, that's their decision.
But this is really a huge story, in my opinion,
for the Globe to basically call this administration out for
not only being less than forthcoming with information that should
be available, but also pointing out and I think pointing
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out rightfully. So there's one comment in here they talk
about that they tried to get information. They said the
state classifies any sort of media involvement in its shelter
system a serious incident, requiring that the provider file a
report with the housing agency as they would for police,
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fire or ambulance cause or if there was an accident
that triggered a hospital admission. The result has been uncommon
security and suspicion by providers. In May, a Globe reporter
who tried to interview the owner of a motor large
along Route one in Saugus was issued a no trespass
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order and told to stay off the property. I mean,
that's something that's pretty Nixonian. I hate to say that,
but that's something that you know, Richard Nixon might have
thought about. Boy, if we can, if we can issue
no trespass orders to reporters, that'll keep them in their place.
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This is itathetical to the free exercise of the First Amendment.
When you're threatening reporters with no trespass orders.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Yeah, I would say that you're on the you're on
the money there, and uh, well I'm glad.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Usually the Globe is more protective.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
If I could say more protective of it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I would agree. They're very protective of the right.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
The Herald's Mary paper.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
This is the type of story that you would have
expected to see in the Herald. It would still be
good journalism in the Herald because it's seeking the truth.
That's what journalism is supposed to be about. But to
have this in the Globe.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Hats off to the Globe, well exactly. And you you
you were an investigative reporter on On and your TV days,
which I remember a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I did stories which I'm happy to tell you put
bad people in jail, and I did stories that got
innocent people out of jail. And I I'm that is
of what I'm most proud in.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
My career, and you should be proud. And I and
there was a YouTube video of I don't know if
I should say it, but well, it looks like you
won the fight on this YouTube video. I guess someone
gave you the business and you it's possible you might
have you know, lights may have been punched out. I
don't know I saw it. I can't find it now.
(28:17):
Well you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I'm not sure, but if you call me off ear,
Rob or Dan will give you my phone number. There
were a few times when when you know, I had
to assert myself as a television reporter. And yes, I
never got my lights punched out. And I don't think
I ever punched anyone's lights out, but no one pushed
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me around.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
But I think you won in this particular video that
I saw. But this got to go back forty.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh that might have been. I know what you're talking about, dude,
you're talking about it was a New Year's Eve in
nineteen eighty when there was a drunk woman on New
Year's Eve who tried to put herself between me and them,
between me and my camera, and that is a that's
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a mortal sin. And I had to I had to
push her out of the way. And I figured, oh
my god, I'm going to be dealing with the drunk
boyfriend who's going to come at me with a bottle.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
That didn't happen, And yeah, he probably is nineteen eight
because I think you had those massive glasses everyone had,
and you know.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I wear I wasn't wearing glasses in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
No, yeah, well yeah, all the big people bore those
big glasses. I think even Dean Martin did in it.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, I'll maybe maybe you're talking about another reporter that
I no.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, thanks, Mike, to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Great to talk with you as quick break here at Nightside.
I got one line at six one seven, two five
four ten thirty and two at six one seven nine
three one ten thirty. Sounds to me like there's a
lot of people who don't want to give the Globe
credit tonight. And if you're not willing to give the
Globe credit on this story and you've read the story,
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shame on you. If you're not willing to give the
Globe credit, find it and read it and you'll be
I think you'd be willing to give it credit. We'll
be back on night Side. Got some room for you
if you want coming back on nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Back we go. We got full lines. It's great. That's great. Oh,
let me go to Christina in Dedham who wants to
talk about the hospital.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Go ahead, Christina, Hi, it's Christina. How are you again?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like Christina, good to hear your voice.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
I give the Globe a lot of credit for doing
that story.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Thank you. That's exactly what I was hoping you were
going to say.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Yes, it's about time, it is, but you got.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
To give him better late than never.
Speaker 9 (31:01):
That's Christine, exactly, exactly, ill.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Exactly the sort of call I was looking for tonight.
And you're one of the few who have who have
rung the bell as far as I'm concerned tonight. Really,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Yeah, I experienced it. Yesterday. I was at a certain
hospital in Boston, and I was I was treated very rudely.
And the other people, I'm not gonna you know, mention
they were treated so nicely. But I when I came
in the office, they were like phone number, address and
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day to breath. And I couldn't hear it. First, She's like,
I told you what I just said to you. But
all the others will come in and speak other languages,
and it was so nice. And I experienced that, you know,
I was like what And then they kept me sitting
there wait and wait and wait, and you know, I'm
like I was, I was. I was upset. So I
realized how everybody else is. You know, it's not light.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Absolutely, there should be courtesy for everyone. H citizens and migrants,
like Christine has always thank you so much for joining us.
I'll see you in a few minutes on a postgame.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Okay, even in debt, you know, we are a hope.
Oh it's really bad.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah yeah, I mean I think that, don't you don't
you have a migrant center in debt in my belief.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You do.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
They're just stiff hanhandling it is it? They threaten you
if you don't don't give them money.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh it's awful, all right, thanks Christina, Thanks Christine soon.
Thanks Okay, right, I think on calling on this line
six that might be a repeat caller. Please if you
could check that, Dan or Rob, either one of you
could check it out, appreciate it. Let me go next
to Michael in New Hampshire. Michael, you've been on and
(32:52):
I'm not sure what you want to talk about. You
go right ahead, Michael, Dan Mike.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
From Sale to Hampshire also known m J Bowl. I
haven't talked to you quat a while.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Ahead.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I could give you an airfhone on this subject, but
when you went open lines, I had to give you
a call because I'm on the road from Williamsport back
to New Hampshire at the Little League World Series and
I know from you know listening to you, you're a
big baseball guy. But I just wanted to see if
you were tuning into the ESPN and watching the Little
League World Series, because let me tell you, it's been
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great the last couple of weeks. My son's gone the
New Hampshire team which is representing Masks Vermont and mains
out at the Literalty World Series and the last couple
of weeks, it's been a good reprieve from all the
crop that's going on in the world, it's just been
all about baseball and these boys and the kids from
all over the countries, all over the all over the country,
and all over the world. At the opening ceremony today
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in the CD interaction with these kids from the United
States and Cuba and Venezuela, and some can't even communicate,
just the language barriers, but just the smiles and thumbs
up that they give each other, it's just refreshing.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, boys, it's just awes.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm happy to hear that. I gotta be honest with you.
My days don't give me the liberty to do what
you're doing. But having been through it with my own children,
in terms of youth sports, I think it's the best
experience a parent can have to watch their child succeed
and sometimes even failed. Because in baseball, if you if
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you hit three hundred, you're three for ten. That means
you succeeded three out of ten times. You failed seven
out of ten times. So there are lessons to be
learned on the diamond in little league right on up
to the major leagues.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
And those boys don't understand Those boys don't understand it.
When they've batten three hundred, you know, that's that's what
the major leagues consider good and they get hard on themselves.
But today it was the game of interrees. We lost Maui,
Hawaii three three to one. We had bases loaded and
we had a line drive to the third baseman who
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made a great have and touched the base and got
that extra runner up for the double play and ended
of the game.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So all right, well, thank you for the play by play, Michael.
We'll gotta go, gotta go here and get back on topic.
But it was a nice respite, that's for sure. I
wish I had more opportunity to, uh, to spend time
doing that. Let me go to rich Is Newton. Rich
you're next on nightside.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Go right ahead, Rich, Hey, Dan, a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
You do a great show.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
I'm glad you took some vacation time.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
You know, this border thing is a disgrace. It should
have it should have stopped or fifteen years ago. It's
a disgrace for the country, excuse me, not the country
by Congress and the Senate and the presidents. It's a
it's a it's ridiculous. It's like letting people with a
disease come into the country. Now, there's a lot of
nice people that are coming here. But the problem is
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years ago, Venezuela and Argentina were great countries. They were
making money. People weren't coming from there. But the dictators
took over and they run out the poor and the
mental and the criminals so that they can have, you know,
the luxury of just having the rich people there and
it can't happen. But if our say, Cia, could have
done their jump, they would have influenced people who were
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going to take over the government, the set of these
dictators and make us pay billions and billions of dollars
because like this we've been going through in the state.
You know, they take over these hotel rooms and they
used to get a buck fifty bucks, seventy five in
a slow time, and they get three hundred. Yeah, I mean,
our own vets can't even get these kind of rooms.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I mean it's you know, yeah, we have talked about
all of that, and I think you're right. The one
thing I would disagree with you on is I think
that we need to be careful with our CIA, meaning
that I don't think we should be in the business
of overthrowing or installing, you know, other governments. I don't
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want countries messing with our elections, and I certainly don't
think that we should be messing with others elections.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
But you're right, Russians already already given.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I know that, But that doesn't make it right. All
I'm just saying is.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
But the point is, when we're spending billions of dollars
and these people are being sent here, we don't have
to say, hey, put Joe Mo in there. But we
could say, listen, this is a better safer person than
this dictator that's gonna shoot and kill and the soldiers
are gonna rape everybody. So the people that are gonna run,
we're gonna give them some money.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
If I if I could just say this, Rich, I
think the solution for us is to control our own
damn borders and to say we are in country, we
have borders. We will we will, we will men or woman,
we we will staff those borders to prevent people coming
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in here. Illegally. If you want to apply for citizenship
to the United States, do it legally, and we will
look at your what you bring to the United States.
As I've often said, Look, if we have doctors and
nurses who are qualified coming from Bangladesh, they go to
the head line. And if we have lawyers coming in
from Ireland. We got plenty of lawyers. Maybe we can
(38:15):
get to them, but they're going to be at the
back of the line. We have an interest in protecting
our borders, and we have. The Biden administration abandoned that
interest many years ago.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
He great, but the problem is it continues no matter
to me, no matter who's in the government. This should
have stopped, you know, twenty years ago, but it didn't
because it was cheap labor. But you know, the borders
have been a joke for three years, whether it's Biden
or Trump or anybody else.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
No, Trump, Trump did a better job on the borders
than Joe Biden. If you had a choice between controlling
your borders having one as president and one is not
as president. And I'm not a Trump guy, okay, right,
but Trump did a better job on the border by
far than Biden. He cooperated with Mexico, and he kept
the borders much tighter than Biden and harristed on that point, Rich,
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I got to end the show. I'm sorry, I gotta
go out of like thank out of time. Thanks very
much to the callers in the line show where you
called earlier. But we'll be back tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
I will do a nightside postgame tonight. You might be
surprised with what I say. All dogs, I want to
thank Dan and Rob, and I want to thank Marita,
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and I want to tell you that all dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie ray
Is who passed sixteen years ago in February, fourteen years
ago in February, excuse me, that's where all your pets
are who have passed. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. Have a great
Thursday everyone. We're back tomorrow night at eight o'clock on
Nightside
It's nice with Dan Ray Undells Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, we are talking about a piece in the
Boston Globe today which is extraordinary, a great piece of journalism,
number one, number one, number two. It is a piece
of journalism that you might not expect from the Boston
Globe because it calls to task the Healthy administration. And
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for those of you who live in Boston, or for
those of you who live in New England, you understand this.
But this is a newspaper which is primarily very friendly
to Democratic incumbents and even Democratic candidates. And I say
hats off to the Boston Globe for basically saying that
this administration, the Healthy administration, has not been forthcoming, has
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not been transparent, has held up information that the public
should have about the migrant crisis here in Massachusetts, about
where they are being housed, much money is being spent.
Information can be released without putting anyone in danger. I
guarantee you that people in communities like Rockland and communities
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like Taunting, where there are in Norfolk, for example, where
there are shelters, people know where those shelters are. In
those shelters, they need to have adequate security and protection
and no one is suggesting that those individuals who are
taking advantage of that generosity should be in any way
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harassed or bothered. However, the people who are paying for
that generosity, taxpayers in Massachusetts, have a right to know
how the money's being spent, in what way it's being spent,
who it's being spent on, who's benefiting it from it,
Because the people who are benefiting it from it beyond
the migrants are the owners of the hotels, either individuals
or corporations, the owners of the taxi cab companies who
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are benefiting for the no bid contracts, the owners of
the restaurants we're providing food, the owners of the laundry services.
That's what we're talking about. Okay, it's as simple as that.
Hats off to the Globe, Hats off to Stephanie Ebert,
or Ebert and Dedre Fernandez, the two writers on the
Globe staff who wrote this piece in the Globe today.
I can be critical of the Globe, as you know
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I can be, but at the same time, in fairness
and in the spirit of honesty, you got to take
your hats off to them. We're going to get back
to the calls we now have Pauline who has joined us,
and I'm sure she is off the speakerphone. Pauline, welcome back,
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Dan, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You are more than welcome. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
This is what I want to share, Pauline. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Pauline, I'm sorry I missed what you said. There for
a second, slow down, did you say you've gotten can?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I can barely hear you up, very hard of hearing,
so I'm sorry I don't hear you. I want to
share with you in irony that you might not know about.
Has a motel which is housed by migrants. It was
one of the first residents anywhere. It's probably been going
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on for over a year. But earlier this evening. In
the last two days, you've talked about Nashova Valley Medical Center,
which is also an air The governor is paying for
the hotels the residents in the motel, but can't come
up with the same amount of money to save our hospital.
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And I think that's an important irony that I would
like more coverage about.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I agree with you. I hope you can hear me.
I agree with you. It is ironic that the Nashova
Valley Medical Center is likely to be closed by the
end of the month, while millions of dollars are probably
being spent at the hotel and air to house people.
I couldn't agree with you more and I'm so glad
you called. Is this your first time calling?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's the first time I've called you. I've talked to
your predecessors of things I thought I would share because
I think you are. The three first time callers were
all man, and I thought you needed a female in there.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, I must tell you the four callers before you
were named. I lean from wal Dam, I leaned from
how Pauline, yourself and Kathy, and now you're coming back.
So we're running a streak here of four female callers,
and we had we have a very good share of
females who call nightside. We get about thirty five percent
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of our callers are female. I wish it was fifty
to fifty. But I think a lot of women callers,
for some reason, aren't as anxious to talk about politics
as guys are. It's like guys at the bar. They're
always ready to jump in and talk about politics or sports,
and women are a little more refined. In many respects
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and even I would say more intell than a lot
of men. But I want I encourage people of all backgrounds,
of all you know, all types of backgrounds to participate
in the call.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I certainly appreciate the compliment for our women out here.
We do listen to you all the time. I'm sure
a very good friend of mine has been in touch
with your producer about the Nashoba Valley Medical Center issue
several times. Yes, but I think if you could have
lightning look into the motel thing and link them up,
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that would make for a most interesting discussion.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I agree with you, and I'm glad we've opened
it up. And I hope there are more people who
are up in your neck of the woods right now,
up in the air Orange, you know, Fitchburg area, Lemonster area.
That affects more than people just from air, but all
those surrounding communities up there, and I hope they will
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call in and support what you're saying, because you're right,
it is it's it's almost well, it is sad. It's
almost tragic that money that could be used could have
been used to save that medical center. And the Connie
Hospital by the way in Boston has been spent on
people who we have encouraged to come here and we
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didn't have the wherewithal to take care of them. We're
now evicting people. So the Healey administration has upset people
like yourself by inviting people to come here, and now
people who are huge advocates for the migrants are upset
with the Healthy administration because they're starting to evict these
poor people. I mean, it's like inviting someone to come for.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Any will be transporting injuries or necessary services for anyone
living at the motel two far away hospitals, making those
ambulances not available for the taxpayers of air. It's such
a quagmire, it really is. I don't know who let
this happen, but it needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'll tell you who let it happen.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Dement of public health at Devon's. Hopefully there will be
some resolution. They met with the Carnie folks the other
night and it didn't go well. But I think we
will have a different representation tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I hope you do. But I will tell you who.
I hope you can hear me. I will tell you
who let it happen. The leadership, the political leadership on
Beacon Hill, a Democratic governor, a Democratic Senate president, and
a Democratic House speaker. They should have amended that law
a couple of years ago and should have should have
been small enough to say, look, eventually, this wave of
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migrants is going to come to Massachusetts and it's going
to adversely affect our citizens. Can we provide some help
for individuals to find their way here? Maybe? Maybe, but
they're not going to be given the priority, and they're
not going to be living in hotels that we're paying
three hundred or three hundred and fifty dollars a night
for or forever, simple as that. I hope, Pauline, you
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continue to call the program, and I hope you tell
your friends about Night Side. I have spent three nights
this week talking about the Stewart crisis. I'm happy I
have done that, and I'm happy that you have linked
the crisis as it impacts air on the Nishoba Valley
Medical Center with what we're talking about this hour. Thank
you so much for calling.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Thank you so much, Dan, appreciate your your time.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You bet youa we'll talk again.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Call again.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thanks very much. We'll take a break. There's one line
at six one seven two five, four, ten thirty, and
there are two lines at six one seven, nine, three one,
ten thirty. I would like to see these phone lines
just lit up. It's easy to get in right now.
But this is an important subject. And please please realize
that the Globe has done a story today that involved
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real journalism, real journalism, and I commend them for it.
And I hope you'll join me, whether you're a Globe
subscribe are not. The fact of the matter is this
is great journalism. It is it was necessary, it's it
is something that I am very happy to see and
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pleasantly surprised by. And I suspect that in the Governor's
office tonight they are not very happy realizing we're talking
about this, and that the Globe has informed their readers
of this. A lot of the readers on the Globe,
some of them probably going to be upset with the Globe.
But that's fine. That's what happens when you're a real journalist.
We'll be back on Night's Side. Got some lines open,
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Feel free, We're coming back right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
We just had two lines drop off. I don't understand
why people seem to be so impatient. I'm trying to
give people an opportunity to express themselves, but some of
you who are on the line have seemed to drop off. Now,
if you've lost contact with us, call us back as
Pauline did, and we will put you back at the
head of the queue. Six one, seven, two, five, four
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ten thirty six one seven, nine, three ten thirty. Let
me go next to Dawn in Arlington. Gone, you were
next on nice side. Go right, a hit, sirup and darn.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Just a question. I'd use you for an example. I
live in Abington. I would like to go to the
MOTECH school. You live in the shelter. They got an
opening one who's going to get it? You from the
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shelter on me? That's a regular resident.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That's a good question. By the way, do you actually
live in Abingdon Yeah, I misread it. And by the way,
my mistake I introduce you is down from Arlington. I
don't want to confuse people, that's my mistake. Well, I
would hope, I would hope that if you're a fourteen
year old kid, obviously you're not and you're applying to
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to go to a voke tech school in Abington, that
you would get priority over some student who has arrived
here two months ago.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But I must be.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Honest with you, I have no confidence that that is
the way it would work out, because I think they
might say, well, they're all students, now, they're all unequal footing,
let's let's put their names in a hat and see
whose name we draw out.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
But the name didn't go in the hat. They were
told that they have to take this one.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Really. Oh, now you're you're not asking me about a hypothetical.
You're you're telling me about I know that.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Wow, And it wasn't in Abington. I did change some locations.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's okay, that's okay. That is that's that's legitimate. In Kingston,
well I Kidston, if I'm not mistaken, does have a
shelter and so hear of the.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Old Howard Johnson's Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Wow, you know there's an example. Look, can you imagine
if you're a kid in high school, or for that matter,
a kid in middle, middle school or elementary school, and
all of a sudden you have a lot of these
these students who are now going to become your classmates,
and they don't speak English. It's not their fault that
they don't speak English, they've never been taught English. But
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the class is going to the classes are going to
be slowed down, and the amount of subjects that, you know,
subject matter that can be taught, obviously is going to
have to be slowed down. So students who live in
these communities, they they will suffer the consequences.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
And the shell is going to be short term shelter
five days.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah. Yeah, a lot of them they say it's short term. Uh,
and they just don't know that. Look, in some cases,
the the the the bureaucrats, if you will, they don't know,
and so they're guessing. And in some cases the bureaucrats
lie because if they're facing a hostile crowd, as they
faced in Norfolk and elsewhere, there's a lot of bureaucrats
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will say, oh, this is only gonna be tempory. It'll
be thirty days and everything will be back to normal. No,
they know, down deep, this is this is so unfair.
And by the way, you won't have you will find
there will be no shelters in places like Dover and
Sherbourne and Weston and Whaland and Wellesley, all of the
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upper crust communities are going to be spared this. It's
going to be in places like Taunted and places like Quinsy,
and places like Rockland and places like Abington.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
And no, no, we won't get it, Dan, we will
not get it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, maybe you're you're lucky. What I'm saying is.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
The hotel. We don't have public transportation and we don't
have one hotel one.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, well you're fine, but you're you're fine. Let's let's
hope that they don't find that there's some sort of
public building to use them. All right, don look, I
I appreciate, I appreciate your call. And it's good to
know that this this it does really unfair injustice we've
talked about. And whoever, if there is, if that student's
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family wants to be on this show and talk about it,
if they happen to be listening, give me a call,
tome On. We'll have them on, simple.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
As that, because it isn't me but my family.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, well have that person call, Have that person call
me and and and we'll put them on and we'll
talk about it, as simple as that. Because if they
don't call their their their son or daughter, whoever's been
denied admittance. Uh in you know, and and we're based
he said, Hey, you you, as a citizen, are a
second rate applicant for a vote for position in a
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vote tech school. That's just one.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Things are going different now than when with the kid.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Now, well you know what, they always seem to go different.
But but if we don't stand up and address them,
don Thank you so much for your call. It was excellent.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And that that is the truth to him, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Get I got it done. I really do appreciate your call.
Thank you much. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
triple eight nine two nine ten thirty. I have wide
open lines here, and I'll tell you what I'm going
to do. If you are not interested in talking about
this subject, and you're not interested in, uh in commending
the Globe for taking a position which I'm sure is
going to put them at odds with the Healy administration,
(15:48):
then we'll go to open lines at eleven thirty. It's
as simple as that, this is a really important subject, okay. Uh.
If if you are sitting at home tonight and saying,
you know, I really agree with what Dan's saying, but
I don't want to call, or or maybe Mommy. Someone's
gonna hear my voice and they're gonna look at me
differently tomorrow because they've called. No, this is the time
(16:11):
to join a chorus and say, first of all, the
Globe did real journalism today. Okay. I don't think the Globe.
Not too often do I commend the Globe. But this
is on the front page of the Globe, page one
above the fold, and it's a great piece of journalism
(16:32):
that I would not expect to find in the Globe. Frankly, Okay,
So I'm asking you to express your opinions. We've had
a whole bunch of people in the last hour. I
don't know if we're having trouble with our phone lines.
Maybe we are. People have called, they've been up, and
they drop off. I want to give people a chance
to express themselves. That's the purpose of Nightside. If this
(16:56):
subject is boring to you, if this subject is not
something that's of interest to you, oh that's fine. We
can go ahead and we can we can go open
lines in the next half hour. I prefer not to
six point seven, triple eight, nine, ten thirty. Let me
go to Jim in Vermont. Jim, we don't get many
calls from Vermont. I am thrilled to hear your voice tonight,
(17:17):
Gorett Ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Jim, how's missive voice of sensibility doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The voice of reason is what my moonicer is.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Well, I think you have the most sensible show on
the radio. But anyway, so Discipilia, we didn't. We're not
dealing with as much of the migrant problem up here
as you ride down there. We are dealing with transparency problems.
We've had a homeless problem up here for many years. Sure,
Vermont is a very very lucrative welfare state. People come
here for all the handouts. We always rate ranked top
(17:45):
ten in the country for the dollar value which you
can get with all your benefits. And christ you know
we have a drug problem. In like Massachusetts, we have
a very liberal state management. And you know they're all
about the handouts.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But yeah, you're you're the home of Brunie Sanders and
uh and and Patrick Lahey.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I think don't hold against me. Now we have a
Becka ba Lant for a congresswoman who's she's all about
the typical you know, left agenda. Well, you know, at
the Punch, the punch list of climate, climate action, homelessness,
portable housing, the same thing they always talk about all
of that. Absolutely anyways, So you know, we we spent
seventy five million dollars last year housing, uh, housing the homeless.
(18:25):
And you know it's a big burden on the state
because they don't just get to They just don't get
a hotel room. They get their meals, they get the
EBT card, they get if they can, get a free
cell phone if they have to, the state will give
them iPads, you know, so they can look for jobs. Supposedly.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, right, I'm sure there's a lot of jobs seeking
going on there. I don't think so. What about free laundry.
I hope they get their laundry done at the hotel.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Well I'm not sure about that part, but I.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Know Massachusetts they get free laundry. So I'm telling you
right now you should tell everybody and vermant who's up
there as a migrant that they're missing out on free laundry.
Come down to Massachuset. We got great hotels down here.
We give them food, we give them ABD cards, we
give them a cell phone, and we do their laundry.
For them, you know, help the bird.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
There are a big burden on services up here because
you know, they just do ache the drug problem, the overdoses.
I mean in Burlington, for example, the fire department has
full time crews sitting downtown just to deal with the overdoses,
sitting at the park, you know, they on overtime. And
then the police, you know, the hotels that are housing
these people, they're they're you know, they're nothing but trouble
the police between the drug dealing, the fighting, the prostitution,
(19:34):
all that stuff that's happened in these hotels. Well, one
thing the state is doing and again we don't have
the money to fix the roads. We just got a
fourteen percent property tax increase across the board everybody, which
you know they will overwhelmingly voted for him and high
five each other. That under the dome is that they're
buying hotels and they're converting them into permanent housing for people.
(19:56):
And I don't know what the money is coming from
to pay for it, but they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I'll tell you we have found in Massachusetts our governor,
Governor Healey has said, you know, this is not our problem.
It's the federal government's problem to some extensions, correct there,
But she has a Democratic president in the House, in
the in the White House who has maintained and a
vice president and you know in the Naval Observatory who
(20:24):
who has said for years the borders are secure. Their
borders aren't secure, They're wide open. And Governor Heally has
asked for some financial help from the federal government and
the answers have been crickets. And as a matter of fact,
the federal government has said, no, we've run out of money.
We have no money. We in Massachusetts have to balance
the budget. Eventually, taxes will be going up. Well they
(20:46):
have gone up in Massachusetts. We have the millionaires tax
now and it will be going up across the board.
And what will happen is more and more people who
are who contribute workers, they're going to get up and leave.
They're going to go to place is like Tennessee and
South Carolina, Texas and Florida. That's that's the trend in
this country.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Well, it's all it's all intentional, Dan, you know that.
I mean, if it wasn't, but they wouldn't be flying
these migrants in the middle of the night when flights
normal don't come into Logan. Okay, this is all planned.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well, they were all upset with Governor DeSantis of Florida
who flew I think it was about thirty six migranes
up and and and did it openly and publicly. They
will they prosecutors, the one who would try to indict
the governor of Florida, and yet they do it under
the cover of darkness and they don't tell anyone. Again,
no transparency, and there's no criticism. This article in the Globe,
(21:39):
If if you have access to the Global article, the
headline is, you can just go to Google Boston Globe.
Heal the administration withholds key information about hotel contracts.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
And they're all doing it. You know, they're all They're
all all the all these left UH states are doing it.
And I said it's intentional. So one things this is interesting.
If they really care about secure board. You take Governor
Abbert Texas, he took measures to prevent them from crossing
the rivers. Okay, he put in those bullys. Why would
if he's taking measures to prevent illegal immigration across his
(22:11):
state in New Mexico, why would Why would Biden I
threaten him if he did not remove this. If Biden
really cared about border security, he should be patting them
on the.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Back for well.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
First, first of all, Biden that never cared about border security,
which is one of the reasons that the American public
turned their back on Biden. Neither does the Vice president
the czarina of the of the border. Okay, they looked
at this as look, the Democrats are losing support amongst
traditional Democratic their traditional Democratic base. They are losing support
(22:46):
amongst Hispanic voters, their losing support amongst black voters. All
the polls show that they need to find another wellspring
of potential voters. And they thought this ten or eleven
million people could be a well spring of voters.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
She's She's not a solution. She's just as bad as no.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, I mean, at this point, I kind of imagine
how Democrats are going to uh support with with any
uh with any excitement uh Kamala Harris, because remember she
ran in twenty twenty and she was out of the
(23:29):
race literally before the first vote was counted. She has
one denomination, by the way, without ever having announced for
the presidency, without ever securing a vote, without ever holding
a news conference, without ever having a campaign office, anywhere.
I'm calling this the immaculate nomination. I mean, it's incredible,
(23:51):
it's incredible. Hey, I got to run here, my my producer,
my new producers yelling at me. But that's okay. Jim,
call more often, will you?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I need to hear you talking.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You good to talk.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Thanks, I'm good night.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I have a great one. The only line that's open
is six one seven. My new producer is doing a
great job. Uh. And Jim kintanno. Uh. And he's keeping
me on my toes, which is what he's supposed to.
Dan Cantano, excuse me. I was thinking about Jim and Vermont.
I apologize. I apologize, Dan, it's been a little confusing
(24:22):
the last hour or so. We'll be back on Nightside
right after this.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I appreciate it. Let me go next to Rick and
Bill Ricca. Rick next on Nightside, go on.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Head swir Hey, Dan, how are you hey? I'm listening
to your show. To not I had a half a
container of ice cream. Probably wasn't the greatest idea, but
it was it was good. And uh, I do care
what you're talking about. I really can't comment too much
about it because I haven't read the articles, but I'm
glad the Hailey administration is being put under a microscope
(25:00):
these actions, and you know I care, I don't know. Well,
I'm right there.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
With him, obviously everybody should care. I'm delighted that the
Globe has basically held the Healy administration's feet to the fire,
as well as putting their actions under a microscope, because
that's what journalism is supposed to be all about. I
understand that their editorial page is supportive and has been
(25:28):
supportive of the governor, which is fine, that's their decision.
But this is really a huge story, in my opinion,
for the Globe to basically call this administration out for
not only being less than forthcoming with information that should
be available, but also pointing out and I think pointing
(25:50):
out rightfully. So there's one comment in here they talk
about that they tried to get information. They said the
state classifies any sort of media involvement in its shelter
system a serious incident, requiring that the provider file a
report with the housing agency as they would for police,
(26:12):
fire or ambulance cause or if there was an accident
that triggered a hospital admission. The result has been uncommon
security and suspicion by providers. In May, a Globe reporter
who tried to interview the owner of a motor large
along Route one in Saugus was issued a no trespass
(26:34):
order and told to stay off the property. I mean,
that's something that's pretty Nixonian. I hate to say that,
but that's something that you know, Richard Nixon might have
thought about. Boy, if we can, if we can issue
no trespass orders to reporters, that'll keep them in their place.
(26:57):
This is itathetical to the free exercise of the First Amendment.
When you're threatening reporters with no trespass orders.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Yeah, I would say that you're on the you're on
the money there, and uh, well I'm glad.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Usually the Globe is more protective.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
If I could say more protective of it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I would agree. They're very protective of the right.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
The Herald's Mary paper.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
This is the type of story that you would have
expected to see in the Herald. It would still be
good journalism in the Herald because it's seeking the truth.
That's what journalism is supposed to be about. But to
have this in the Globe.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Hats off to the Globe, well exactly. And you you
you were an investigative reporter on On and your TV days,
which I remember a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I did stories which I'm happy to tell you put
bad people in jail, and I did stories that got
innocent people out of jail. And I I'm that is
of what I'm most proud in.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
My career, and you should be proud. And I and
there was a YouTube video of I don't know if
I should say it, but well, it looks like you
won the fight on this YouTube video. I guess someone
gave you the business and you it's possible you might
have you know, lights may have been punched out. I
don't know I saw it. I can't find it now.
(28:17):
Well you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I'm not sure, but if you call me off ear,
Rob or Dan will give you my phone number. There
were a few times when when you know, I had
to assert myself as a television reporter. And yes, I
never got my lights punched out. And I don't think
I ever punched anyone's lights out, but no one pushed
(28:41):
me around.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
But I think you won in this particular video that
I saw. But this got to go back forty.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh that might have been. I know what you're talking about, dude,
you're talking about it was a New Year's Eve in
nineteen eighty when there was a drunk woman on New
Year's Eve who tried to put herself between me and them,
between me and my camera, and that is a that's
(29:08):
a mortal sin. And I had to I had to
push her out of the way. And I figured, oh
my god, I'm going to be dealing with the drunk
boyfriend who's going to come at me with a bottle.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
That didn't happen, And yeah, he probably is nineteen eight
because I think you had those massive glasses everyone had,
and you know.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I wear I wasn't wearing glasses in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
No, yeah, well yeah, all the big people bore those
big glasses. I think even Dean Martin did in it.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, I'll maybe maybe you're talking about another reporter that
I no.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, thanks, Mike, to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Great to talk with you as quick break here at Nightside.
I got one line at six one seven, two five
four ten thirty and two at six one seven nine
three one ten thirty. Sounds to me like there's a
lot of people who don't want to give the Globe
credit tonight. And if you're not willing to give the
Globe credit on this story and you've read the story,
(30:06):
shame on you. If you're not willing to give the
Globe credit, find it and read it and you'll be
I think you'd be willing to give it credit. We'll
be back on night Side. Got some room for you
if you want coming back on nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Back we go. We got full lines. It's great. That's great. Oh,
let me go to Christina in Dedham who wants to
talk about the hospital.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Go ahead, Christina, Hi, it's Christina. How are you again?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like Christina, good to hear your voice.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
I give the Globe a lot of credit for doing
that story.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Thank you. That's exactly what I was hoping you were
going to say.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Yes, it's about time, it is, but you got.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
To give him better late than never.
Speaker 9 (31:01):
That's Christine, exactly, exactly, ill.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Exactly the sort of call I was looking for tonight.
And you're one of the few who have who have
rung the bell as far as I'm concerned tonight. Really,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Yeah, I experienced it. Yesterday. I was at a certain
hospital in Boston, and I was I was treated very rudely.
And the other people, I'm not gonna you know, mention
they were treated so nicely. But I when I came
in the office, they were like phone number, address and
(31:35):
day to breath. And I couldn't hear it. First, She's like,
I told you what I just said to you. But
all the others will come in and speak other languages,
and it was so nice. And I experienced that, you know,
I was like what And then they kept me sitting
there wait and wait and wait, and you know, I'm
like I was, I was. I was upset. So I
realized how everybody else is. You know, it's not light.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Absolutely, there should be courtesy for everyone. H citizens and migrants,
like Christine has always thank you so much for joining us.
I'll see you in a few minutes on a postgame.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Okay, even in debt, you know, we are a hope.
Oh it's really bad.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah yeah, I mean I think that, don't you don't
you have a migrant center in debt in my belief.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You do.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
They're just stiff hanhandling it is it? They threaten you
if you don't don't give them money.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh it's awful, all right, thanks Christina, Thanks Christine soon.
Thanks Okay, right, I think on calling on this line
six that might be a repeat caller. Please if you
could check that, Dan or Rob, either one of you
could check it out, appreciate it. Let me go next
to Michael in New Hampshire. Michael, you've been on and
(32:52):
I'm not sure what you want to talk about. You
go right ahead, Michael, Dan Mike.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
From Sale to Hampshire also known m J Bowl. I
haven't talked to you quat a while.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Ahead.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I could give you an airfhone on this subject, but
when you went open lines, I had to give you
a call because I'm on the road from Williamsport back
to New Hampshire at the Little League World Series and
I know from you know listening to you, you're a
big baseball guy. But I just wanted to see if
you were tuning into the ESPN and watching the Little
League World Series, because let me tell you, it's been
(33:25):
great the last couple of weeks. My son's gone the
New Hampshire team which is representing Masks Vermont and mains
out at the Literalty World Series and the last couple
of weeks, it's been a good reprieve from all the
crop that's going on in the world, it's just been
all about baseball and these boys and the kids from
all over the countries, all over the all over the country,
and all over the world. At the opening ceremony today
(33:47):
in the CD interaction with these kids from the United
States and Cuba and Venezuela, and some can't even communicate,
just the language barriers, but just the smiles and thumbs
up that they give each other, it's just refreshing.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, boys, it's just awes.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm happy to hear that. I gotta be honest with you.
My days don't give me the liberty to do what
you're doing. But having been through it with my own children,
in terms of youth sports, I think it's the best
experience a parent can have to watch their child succeed
and sometimes even failed. Because in baseball, if you if
(34:25):
you hit three hundred, you're three for ten. That means
you succeeded three out of ten times. You failed seven
out of ten times. So there are lessons to be
learned on the diamond in little league right on up
to the major leagues.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
And those boys don't understand Those boys don't understand it.
When they've batten three hundred, you know, that's that's what
the major leagues consider good and they get hard on themselves.
But today it was the game of interrees. We lost Maui,
Hawaii three three to one. We had bases loaded and
we had a line drive to the third baseman who
(34:59):
made a great have and touched the base and got
that extra runner up for the double play and ended
of the game.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So all right, well, thank you for the play by play, Michael.
We'll gotta go, gotta go here and get back on topic.
But it was a nice respite, that's for sure. I
wish I had more opportunity to, uh, to spend time
doing that. Let me go to rich Is Newton. Rich
you're next on nightside.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Go right ahead, Rich, Hey, Dan, a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
You do a great show.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
I'm glad you took some vacation time.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
You know, this border thing is a disgrace. It should
have it should have stopped or fifteen years ago. It's
a disgrace for the country, excuse me, not the country
by Congress and the Senate and the presidents. It's a
it's a it's ridiculous. It's like letting people with a
disease come into the country. Now, there's a lot of
nice people that are coming here. But the problem is
(35:50):
years ago, Venezuela and Argentina were great countries. They were
making money. People weren't coming from there. But the dictators
took over and they run out the poor and the
mental and the criminals so that they can have, you know,
the luxury of just having the rich people there and
it can't happen. But if our say, Cia, could have
done their jump, they would have influenced people who were
(36:12):
going to take over the government, the set of these
dictators and make us pay billions and billions of dollars
because like this we've been going through in the state.
You know, they take over these hotel rooms and they
used to get a buck fifty bucks, seventy five in
a slow time, and they get three hundred. Yeah, I mean,
our own vets can't even get these kind of rooms.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I mean it's you know, yeah, we have talked about
all of that, and I think you're right. The one
thing I would disagree with you on is I think
that we need to be careful with our CIA, meaning
that I don't think we should be in the business
of overthrowing or installing, you know, other governments. I don't
(36:54):
want countries messing with our elections, and I certainly don't
think that we should be messing with others elections.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
But you're right, Russians already already given.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I know that, But that doesn't make it right. All
I'm just saying is.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
But the point is, when we're spending billions of dollars
and these people are being sent here, we don't have
to say, hey, put Joe Mo in there. But we
could say, listen, this is a better safer person than
this dictator that's gonna shoot and kill and the soldiers
are gonna rape everybody. So the people that are gonna run,
we're gonna give them some money.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
If I if I could just say this, Rich, I
think the solution for us is to control our own
damn borders and to say we are in country, we
have borders. We will we will, we will men or woman,
we we will staff those borders to prevent people coming
(37:52):
in here. Illegally. If you want to apply for citizenship
to the United States, do it legally, and we will
look at your what you bring to the United States.
As I've often said, Look, if we have doctors and
nurses who are qualified coming from Bangladesh, they go to
the head line. And if we have lawyers coming in
from Ireland. We got plenty of lawyers. Maybe we can
(38:15):
get to them, but they're going to be at the
back of the line. We have an interest in protecting
our borders, and we have. The Biden administration abandoned that
interest many years ago.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
He great, but the problem is it continues no matter
to me, no matter who's in the government. This should
have stopped, you know, twenty years ago, but it didn't
because it was cheap labor. But you know, the borders
have been a joke for three years, whether it's Biden
or Trump or anybody else.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
No, Trump, Trump did a better job on the borders
than Joe Biden. If you had a choice between controlling
your borders having one as president and one is not
as president. And I'm not a Trump guy, okay, right,
but Trump did a better job on the border by
far than Biden. He cooperated with Mexico, and he kept
the borders much tighter than Biden and harristed on that point, Rich,
(39:04):
I got to end the show. I'm sorry, I gotta
go out of like thank out of time. Thanks very
much to the callers in the line show where you
called earlier. But we'll be back tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
I will do a nightside postgame tonight. You might be
surprised with what I say. All dogs, I want to
thank Dan and Rob, and I want to thank Marita,
(39:24):
and I want to tell you that all dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie ray
Is who passed sixteen years ago in February, fourteen years
ago in February, excuse me, that's where all your pets
are who have passed. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. Have a great
Thursday everyone. We're back tomorrow night at eight o'clock on
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