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August 21, 2024 45 mins
Robert F. Kennedy is running for president as a third-party candidate with Nicole Shanahan as his running mate. Currently, Kennedy remains far behind Trump and Harris in state and national polls. Is RFK about to leave the race and if so, will he endorse Trump?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes Dan Ray Boston's News Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
So we lost Steve, our caller from Maine. Steve, if
you want to call back, we'll get you on because
I kind of short changed you before the break. But
if you are done, that's okay. This is a little
bit more of that interview yesterday with the Cole Shanahan.
This is a podcast, our podcast called Impact Theory. The

(00:26):
host is a fellow named Tom Bill. You no idea.
He sat down with Nicole Shanahan. She is the multi
millionaire from Silicon Valley who was considered quite liberal and
her money has in large part funded the Bobby Robert F.

(00:48):
Kennedy Junior RKA Junior's campaign, and she was asked by
the host if the campaign had talked both to Donald
Trump into the Democrats. There was at least one network
reporter tonight, I believe was from ABC who said that

(01:12):
there had been conversations or there was been to reach
out from the Kennedy campaign to both Trump and the Democrats.
This is the question. She calls it fake news. This
is Nicole Shanahan yesterday, cut twenty two. Please we're up,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
There were rumors going around that RFK was in talks
with Trump that he was in talks with the Harris
camp for potential endorsement to either of them if they
could give him, I presume a spot in one of
their cabinets. Is there any truth to it? I'd love
to hear about that.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Definitely not in talks with Harris. Definitely never have brought
up this idea of an endorsement with Harris. Definitely ever
brought up a cabinet position with Harris. So those those
are the MSN just taking something and spinning it in
a way that makes you know their chosen political group

(02:14):
look good.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Fake news, fake news?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Where have I heard that trim before? I got a
couple of lines at six, one, seven, two, ten thirty.
Let me go next to Marty and Florida. Marty, welcome back.
How are you? I know you're a Trump supporter. I
assume you're pleased with this news.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
I am very pleased. But let me say one thing,
and this is to anybody who is not who doesn't
think they're going to vote for Trump right now, we're
in a terrible situation in this country. If you heard
comrade Obama speak, the guy sounds like a communist. Bernie
Bernie Sanders is a communist, So we have an opportunity

(02:55):
to either put in communists or put in Donald Trump.
Anybody who's going to analyze anything about Donald Trump is
either very immature or else very selfish, because he's the
only one. He's the only one right now that makes
sense to vote. If we don't vote for him, there's

(03:15):
going to be a serious problem in this country.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Now I jump in, Marty, let me jump in for
a second. I want you to take a breath. First
of all, I don't think labeling people with whom you
and I might both disagree as communists is helpful because
I think that that word has been thrown around, and

(03:39):
both you and I are old enough to remember it
being thrown around by other people. Just because Bernie Sanders
is an avowed socialist, it's a big step from being
a socialist to being a communist. I mean, a communist
is Vladimir Putin, is Joe Stalin, as Nikita Krushchev is
Leonid Brezhnev, is you know, is the leaders of North Korea?

(04:02):
Uh again, it's you know, a communist is the current
president of China, It's milesse Toung. It's I just think
that that that is from many people, a step way
too far. That's all. I don't think it helps your argument.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Okay, now listen to this. First of all, Comrade Obama
never had any private job. He spent his whole life
in politics. He never was in a situation where he
had a business, where he created jobs or whatever. Bernie Sanders,
I think there's there's Republicans also who have been elected

(04:39):
early in their career.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean, what did Mitch.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
Mccau I'm not talking about I'm talking about Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has so many enterprises.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
No, No, I agree with you, and if you and
if you focus on that, I agree with you. But
I'm just saying that.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Also, also, when we remember uh Obama's wife, Michelle, when
when Obama got elected, Michelle set up until previously, I
couldn't be proud of his country. You know what, I'm
a working class person, I'm a retired policeman, I'm from

(05:14):
a blue collar background, whatever. I've always been proud of
this country for many different reasons. So they're on a gang,
a gang that's supporting Harris and I don't care.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
By the way, I think that the the remark that
you made about which was accurate about Michelle Obama was
absolutely accurate. And when she said that back in twenty
and sixteen, I thought to myself, you're a family member
has to be elected president of the United States before
you're proud to be an American.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
That's also another thing. Sanders is so wacky because he's
supposed to be Jewish. He doesn't support Israel.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, Marty, you know as well as I do that
Bernie Sanders, if he was on the phone with us,
would say that he supports Israel, but he supports it
in a different way. I mean, I just think that
that at this point, you want to bring people to you,
not push them.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah, okay, but let me say this about Bobby Kennedy Junior. YEP,
I don't have anything against him. I always looked at
him with let's say, potential, and what I'm looking at
him now with his voice problem. I think that the
Democrats would consider him as damaged goods. Remember what they
did to what was it, Senator Eagleton. There was two candidates,

(06:35):
one candidate for a president they dumped because he had
cancer and another one had a history of mental problems.
So according to the Devil.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Eagleton, for those who don't remember, and you have a
good memory. Eagleton had been chosen. He was a senator
from Missouri. Tommy Eagleton had been chosen by George mcgovernor
be his vice president in n his vice presidential nominee
in nineteen seventy two, and it came to be to
the public's knowledge that Eagleton at that point had spent
some time counseling with a psychologist, which today most people

(07:10):
have done that at some point in their life. Okay,
there's no shame in that. But in nineteen seventy two,
that was fifty two years ago, he withdrew as vice
president of candidate, and Sergeant Shriver became the candidate who
ran with George McGovern and they lost forty nine of
the fifty saints. But again, you know, yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
I reveal myself as his three boy. I'm seventy seven.
On anything that ever happened in my lifetime, I remember it,
and everybody else should remember it.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
Well.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Your recollection on Eagleton is correct. Your recollection of Michelle
Obama's comments are correct, Okay, And I think that was
a disgraceful comment that she made because it almost sounded
to me like until her husband was elected president. She
wasn't out of the United States. Wouldn't it be great
if everyone could be married to someone who's the president
of the United States. But there's three hundred and thirty
million people in this country. And that was a crazy

(08:08):
comment that she made. And she had gone to the
finest schools. I think she had gone to Princeton and
I believe she went to Harvard Law School as well
as President Obama, they were blessed with opportunities that most
people could only dream about.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
And I would like, I would like people like Michelle
and Comrade Obama that if they can find.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
In any country around the world, you don't have to
identify Kenya and Nigeria. Frankly doesn't help your argument. They did.
Just say any country around the world. Name of a
country that you'd that you'd prefer to live in. I
can't think of one.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, but they're supposed to be black there or African American,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
That sounds racist on your part when you say they
should go to Kenya Nigeria, you don't want to go, yead.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I said, if they went there to better get a
better life, they come here, they take advantage. Obama right
now is a multi millionaire. He lives in places that
I couldn't afford.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
To question yep.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
And I would like them to say good things about
this country. And I don't think they feel good about
this country, but they feel good about what they can
get from this country.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
All right, Marty, you got it all in. You didn't
take the advice, but nonetheless, thank.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
You for looking Kennedy supporting the guy on Friday.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay, we'll see what happens. Thank you, Marty. Appreciate the golf.
Steven Maine has come back here. We'll give him a
couple of minutes on the other side because he apparently
had lost contact. Well, we owe him a couple of minutes.
But I got one line for you if you want
six one seven. He got ron Bob Fran coming up
as well. We're going to talk about this till midnight

(09:55):
tomorrow night. By the way, you will be able to
hear here on on nightside on WBZ the acceptance speech
of Vice President Harris in front of the Democratic National
Convention in its entirety. We may talk about what tone
she needs to strike tomorrow night, beginning at nine o'clock,
and then of course, we will react to what she

(10:16):
has to say tomorrow night, so that'll be probably the
dominant part of the conversation tomorrow night, after our eight
o'clock hour with our special guests, as we do every
night for guests during the nightside news update. Back on Nightside,
we will be right back, and I want to hear
from as many of you as possible. I'm certainly looking
forward to more Robert F. Kennedy supporters. Are you surprised?

(10:40):
Are you happy? Are you disappointed? I assume most of
you have some sense of disappointment, But are you prepared
to follow his lead? If his lead is as many
are anticipating, as all the networks are not reporting, is
that he intends to endorse Donald Trump. Back on Nightside
after this.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Now back to Dan Way Live from the Window World
to night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
By the way, you're going to see a story in
The Globe tomorrow morning. I don't want anyone to be
shocked by this, particularly those of you who support Senator
Elizabeth Warren. The Globe, which is doing some really interesting journalism,
decided to figure out amongst the New England Congressional delegation,

(11:25):
which means senators and congress people from Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts,
Rhode Island, and Connecticut. That's the New England delegation. How
many of them come from families that owned slaves, that
their ancestors owned slaves, leading the Leading the field, Elizabeth Warren,
she comes from people who owned fourteen slaves. Maggie Hassen

(11:49):
in New Hampshire, her family her ancestors owned thirteen slaves.
Jean Shaheen of New Hampshire, her ancestors owned ten slaves.
And Angus Kane of Maine, his ancestors owned nine slaves.
No other members of the congressional delegation in any of
the other states owned slaves. None from Massachusetts, none from

(12:13):
Rhode Island, none from Connecticut, none from Vermont. And Elizabeth
Warrant of all people, her family owned the most slaves.
You can't make this stuff up, Steve. You called back,
We lost you there. I give you a couple of
minutes here finish up your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (12:32):
Please go ahead, Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Dan.

Speaker 8 (12:35):
The I guess that the recap I was seeing it
originally as as a protest vote, and this year probably
aware in May they've signed on to that that that
hideous system of no matter what, because we we've split
the electoral college votes. Yes, of that, the regardless of

(12:57):
what the voters are made to, whoever wins the popular
vote will get all of our delegates. So Trump Trump
is never doing anything they can to take Wait. I
thought I thought that I thought.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought that name
like Nebraska have some congressional district so in prior elections, Uh,
the district up north has tended to go Republican and
the district down south where you are tends to go democratic.
I thought that there's been a couple of elections where
Maine has I think four delegates. Uh, you know, four

(13:35):
electoral votes because you have two US Senators and two
members of Congress, and that you can get either uh
you know, either four all four electoral votes or if
you split, if you win one district or and lose
the other two votes, that you could have a three
to one split as opposed to four nothing split? Is

(13:55):
that not? Has that case changed?

Speaker 7 (13:58):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Know?

Speaker 8 (13:59):
What they've done is the legislature are signed on. There
was a movement across the country that various states voted
to follow the popular vote. So Trump has won the
second district in Maine up north the last two elections
and picked up the electoral college vote. People laugh at
him the first time around when he was coming to
the northern district and and and stumping. But get worked out.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Right, so that that now is is over in Maine.
And so Maine, whatever the statewide vote is, the candidate
the Winds would get all four of means electoral votes. Interesting.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
Yeah, well, I can't recall exactly how that landed. It
had to have some majority of basically democratically controlled states
to to to join.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm gonna check. I'm gonna check that out because they
don't want to give out you know, you you're in Maine.
I'm not so I'm assuming you know more than I do.
But you know, we'll see. Go go ahead. What's your
other point, man?

Speaker 8 (15:02):
The you know, the it was kind of an interesting thought,
even though it was a protest vote that you know,
hey I got I get a chance to vote for
the Kennedy lineage. You know, yeah, I didn't think that
was going to happen in my lifetime. But and then
the final thought is how the Kennedy cousins and and

(15:24):
and in fact siblings are are against Bobby Jr.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, but by the way I'm looking at I think,
if I'm not mistaken here, that Maine has not changed
that so.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
Well, the legislature did approve it, but it was it
was dependent on a certain number of other states also
approving it in order for it to be.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh that's a different story. Yeah, that's a different that.
That's a different story. I think what they were saying
was that if if the if the pop people vote
nationally was won by let us say, Hillary Clinton, no
matter how Maine voted. Yeah, no, they still have the
congression the district vote in Maine. Trust me on that.
I think we were both talking about different.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
They wanted to go with the popular vote, if the
popular vote nationally, which isn't our system correct?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, no, no, no, that that's a crazy that's a
crazy rule. It's it's wrong. But but Maine and Nebraska
are the two states that allow some voting, some of
the popular votes to be distributed based upon how congressional
districts vote. So you could have Donald Trump could still
win one of the congressional districts, and even if he

(16:40):
lost Maine, he would he could get one vote out
of Maine, which in a very tight race could be important.

Speaker 8 (16:47):
On it was in twenty sixteen, Yes, it was.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
It was okay. Though he had three hundred and six
electoral votes in twenty sixteen, he was well over the
two seventy that year. So yeah, thanks Dave. Got to go.

Speaker 8 (17:01):
In the rank choice voting and we're a mess up here.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, that is a total mess. That's that's what I
thought you were talking about originally. That is a nightmare.
It is an absolute nightmare and unnecessary. Steve, I got
to run, Thank you much. Let me go to Ron
in Weymouth. Run next on nice, I get you in
here before the newsbreak. Go ahead, run?

Speaker 9 (17:16):
Oh yes, Dan, Yeah. In regards to the gentleman to
call from Florida, Yeah, that's the things he's saying about communism,
that would be a trap. Imagine somebody going to either
eat the convention, they have all the American flags, they're
running through office, and he jumps up and says, you're
a communist. I don't think that will go over too good.
So that's it's just a trap. But regards to the

(17:41):
upcoming election, if the Democrats go according to what their
agenda at the convention, which is all thinking about his abortions,
gender rights, and civil rights and not talk about the
price of gas, economy, housing, food. Uh, they're going to lose,
and I I do believe that they will lose anyhow,

(18:03):
And I believe that Trump will win. I will win,
and I think it's going to be a hell of
a battle. The biggest dawning book I think anybody's ever seen.
But I mean, I'll give my percentages up. If you
want to do them tonight, I'll call them another night.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, you know, we do this thing the last Friday
of every month at eleven o'clock and we ask people
to fall in and tell us how they're feeling, and
we will get to a percentage thing. But we'll do
that probably sometimes in October. The Wall Street Journal had
a very interesting article today on some of the issues

(18:39):
that Tim Wallas has supported. He's guaranteed tuition free college
for students from lower income families, including undocumented migrants or
indocumented immigrants or illegal immigrants. He allowed illegal immigrants to
obtain driver's licenses. He obviously is a proponent of abortions.

(19:07):
He believes in the right to choice. He strengthened background
checks on gun purchases. He increased capital gains taxes, which
generally affects wealthy individuals. He's a he's a very progressive guy,
and I think that that in a national election, that
will help him in some states and probably hurt him

(19:28):
in others.

Speaker 9 (19:32):
I agree with you on in total, with all what
you said, and like I say, everybody thinks, O. They
just talk off the top of their heads because what
it looks like and what is projected like now is
it's not over yet. Okay, there's we still got well
just a couple of months there.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Three months.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
It can change, it can change.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
It's going to go back and forth. And unfortunately with
some of the media which keeps steering everybody, as we
all know, I think people are getting smarter to that
now from what we've heard in the last three years.
Going on with the illustration.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
We will see. Uh, it's two and a half months.
You're you're you're much more accurate than I am. It's
about I think seventy five days at this point, so
about two and eight months. Remember fifth, make sure everyone
should make sure they vote. Thanks Ron.

Speaker 9 (20:19):
They should, they should, they should vote. And the people
who don't vote, they have no say, even if they
call you up and not a voter, well, doesn't mean
you know.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
They can still call you, still call So thanks Ron.
Back soon again to take a very quick break. We
got news at the bottom of the hour, going to
try to get everybody in. I have well two lines.
I got one at six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty that will fill quickly, and I got one
in six one, seven, nine three one ten thirty. We'll

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(21:11):
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Speaker 1 (21:26):
This, it's Nightside with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
All Right, we're talking about the possibility or at this
point it appears to be the probability that RFK Junior
is gonna suspend or end his presidential campaign and endorse
Donald Trump. I mean, surprise after surprise. Let's go to
Bob and Hopkinson. Bob, you're next on Nightside.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
Vocal Harry, Dan, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I'm doing great. Bob. What's your thought on this very
interesting development?

Speaker 7 (22:01):
Well, I got a couple of comments. First of all,
I want to congratulate you on your professionalism and trying
to bring both sides together. Were definitely locked in the
cultural war that we've been locked in since probably the
nineteen sixties.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
You might be right on that. I think it goes
back a long way. We worked.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
I worked in Father DRIs. Yeah, I worked in Father
Drining's campaign, and we had a lot of crap during
that two weeks. We were able to put a long
term in company who supported the war on Vietnam out
of office with Father Drining running. But it's hotter and
haider for people.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Harold Donahue. Was it Harold Donahue that he beat initially
or no?

Speaker 7 (22:43):
Who I'm trying to remember, Phil Phil Philbin.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
All right, right, Phil Philbin, who was out of if
I'm not mistaken, Clinton, Massachusetts.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Funny district. At that point, I will tell you this,
father Driyning went to the same elementary school that I
went to. It was a Catholic school called Saint Ian's
School in Reedville. Believe it or not, we were not
there at the same time. It was there many years
before me. But I had that in common with him,
and I once told him that, and he didn't have

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a great interest in talking about it for some reason.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
It was like, I, well, do you remember Bill Bratton,
the police commissioner went from here to New York to
la and what's yeah, Bill, I know very well.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
He was in my graduating class at Boston Technical High
School class in nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh my goodness. Okay, well I used to play some
sports again. I went to Latin School. In that time.
Boston Tech was was as an excellent high school. An
excellent high school.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Yeah, it was an exam school. I went to Boston
Lanin for the ninth grade. They couldn't take it. They
went over to Boston Tech. On the tenth grade. So
you're smarter than I am.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, no, no, no, no, no. All it meant was
I was more stubborn and I was willing to deal
with it.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
A lot of great great athletes and great great friends
came out of there. A guy that I played baseball
with in college, Mark Mantainis, who was a left handed
picture at Boston Tech. You probably remember Mark. He was
a really good picture at Boston Tech.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Well, listen, in those days, we had some moral education
in public schools. We had a Bible reading in the morning.
It was from the Old Testament, so we wouldn't offend
the Jewish students. And you know, this is what's wrong.
And I'm glad you let that retired police officer who
was calling Obat the Obama's comrade in Bernie Sands, a communist,

(24:41):
because I've been with Bernie for the eight years, going
back eight years, okay, when he first ran and then
he granted again. And it's the same old story. They
screwed Bernie. In my language, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
He should have been the nominee in twenty sixteen of
the Democratic Party. We said it at the time.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, And he would have won, he would have
beat Trump. I think he would sent Trump off the
retirement and that would have been it.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
And I said at the time that the only person
back in twenty sixteen, the only person that I thought
Donald Trump could beat was Hillary Clinton and exactly. And
you'll let me ask you this, how does how do
you how do you react? You're a Democrat? How do
you react to what Robert F. Kennedy is saying tonight
and that his that his vice presidential candidate is saying

(25:28):
tonight that the establishment of the Democratic Party used all
sorts of tactics against him and his campaign. And now
I think that's what's going to prompt him to probably
endorse Donald Trump on Friday.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
Well, I think he's exactly right, and I congratulate you
on playing his clip. In the clip from his vice
presidential candidate, I think she's only a very intelligent woman
who's invested in millions of iron dollars into the campaign,
and I think I think she's honest when she was
saying she didn't run to be a spoiler. She ran
to try to bring this country to some common sense

(26:10):
in unity through unity, And you're right, they had at
least fifteen to seventeen percent in the polls early on,
and they think they should have The Democrats should have
had an open primary. And Joe Biden must have known
in his family and his inner circle must have known

(26:31):
that he was slowing down, and they must have thought
about how he would be four years forward into a
second term, and they should have opened it up and
made it a fair primary. So if he won the primary,
but it was run fairly with Barbie Kennedy and whoever
else wanted to run. Fine. Now, I was a Democrat
for almost my entire life. I switched once back in

(26:53):
the old days because I wanted to vote in the
Republican primary here in Massachusetts before they changed the rules.
Now I'm an independent because like a lot of people,
we say, look, we didn't leave the Democratic Party. The
Democratic Party left us. And they are extremists, you know.
They're the ones that want absolutely no restrictions against abortion,

(27:17):
but when it comes to gun control, they want all
kinds of restrictions. Now, why don't we get together and
the people on both sides of the gun issue, both
sides of the abortion issue, both sides of the border issue,
get together, put their heads together and used some calm
and snatch Back in the day when I supported father

(27:37):
Drining when he ran for Congress, he used to call
me a radical liberal.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Absolutely, yeah, he was, he really was. So let me
ask you this two questions, and I got other calls,
so I got up as much as is this the
first time you called? And know you've called before? Right? Oh?

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Yeah, I go way back to David braudnos.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So my question to you is this, what's of an
impact if it goes as I think all the networks
are predicting tonight, and as I think the language that
Kennedy used that I played earlier in Shanahan used, and
if you do US as Trump, what sort of a
realistic impact do you think that has on the final
outcome in November? In your opinion?

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Well, in my opinion, I think he's totally just decide
if he doesn't do US Trump because Joe Biden in
all the powerful Democrats, the rich Democrats, the big funding
people's billionaires, rounded up the Kennedy cousins and screwed Bobby Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
And that what bothered me most about it was they
did they refused to give him a secret Service protection
and here was an obvious target and Thank god nothing
happened to him. But they finally gave him Secret Service
protection the after after Donald Trump survived that assassination attempt. So, so,

(28:58):
who are you going to vote for? Have you made
up your mind?

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Well, I'm kind of split because Bernie Sanders, as much
as he's been screwed, he's a good sport okay. And
and and you know, we talked about coaches. I used
to coach tennis for Saint John's High School up in Shrewsbury,
and we used to say, yeah, you know what, if
you win, you have to be a graceful winner. You lose,

(29:22):
you have to be a good loser. That doesn't mean
you're a loser. Okay. Now, Bernie, Bernie is saying he's
kind of he is kind of extreme, Okay, but he's saying, look,
we have to bring the country together. Donald Trump is
not going to unify the country. So please do not

(29:43):
vote for Donald Trump. Vote for Kamala, Okay, Joe Biden
the country in your opinion, No, No, I don't think so.
And I think he's done a terrible job and guys
a terrible job at not getting the long range weapons
and fight the jets and to the Ukraine, and he's
you know, and he's done a bad job by reappointing

(30:06):
the Chairman of the Federal Reserve because that guy had
been originally appointed by Trump six years ago. And he's
got a fifty five million dollar personal wealth, and he's
been pushing the interest rates up to preserve what they

(30:27):
call preserve acid values, not to stop inflation. He's taking
care of this.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Bob. We have covered the waterfront. So I hate to
do this to you, but I got other calls. We've
done nine.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
Minutes, and well I appreciate it, you know, and hopefully
your callers will be thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Call me back more frequently. I still don't know who
you're gonna trump, you're going to vote for. When you decide,
you got to call back and let me know, because
you might be a what I called my weather vane
voters who will actually decide the election.

Speaker 10 (30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
Well, I'm still open minded that I might go Trump
by Michael Kamal or I don't know. I might write
in Bobby Kennedy or if he's on the bell, check
him off.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
All right, Thanks, thanks Bob, talk to you soon, good
night night.

Speaker 10 (31:08):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, I want to get one more in here. Before
the break, and I'm going to clear a couple of
calls here, so if you want to dial in and
get last words six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one seven ninety, let me go to Frien
and Lowell. Friend, thank you for your paintings. I'm going
to take you quickly here.

Speaker 10 (31:27):
Go ahead for the evening.

Speaker 11 (31:27):
The only reason I've stayed online is because i happened
to tune in at one point when someone was calling
and criticizing Trump for the name calling that he does.
And I've waited all this time to hear one other
person call and allude to that very lopes tenous joke

(31:49):
that Obama made yesterday was so low in debauched. I
can't believe that no one else has called. I could
never ever vote that party that accepted something like that
as amusing, and that no one else is offended just
appalled me.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, well, he was making he was making a reference,
and I haven't seen it, I've heard it.

Speaker 11 (32:12):
It is not funny, No, no, I.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Said, I'm not trying to do it. I'm just saying
that he was making a reference to Donald Trump's however
he phrased it. His concern about the size of his crowds.

Speaker 11 (32:27):
He was being clever and you know what he was
talking about.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
And again I guess the people all you know now
again yefed it up.

Speaker 11 (32:39):
Now, if Trump had done that, if Trump had dared
to do that, or said something about his wife or
any other man on that platform, we would be hearing
it screaming.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well, the only thing I would say about I would
say about let me little point counterpoint here. Let's see
if you recall, do you remember when he used to
talk about Senator Rupe from Florida. This is in twenty
and sixteen, and he kept referring to him as being,
you know, little little Mario, and he said he has

(33:11):
small hands. Do you remember that?

Speaker 11 (33:14):
Do you mean Trump saying this, is that what you're saying? Yeah,
I have to say I can't remember much about that,
but I do believe that that Ruvio was was a
butt of jokes. So I'll just say that much I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, he kept saying that, oh that, you know Mario,
and so so he's employed some of that. I guess
you'd call it bathroom humor, whatever you want, but it
was not done by a former president of the United States.
Referring to another former president.

Speaker 11 (33:44):
In a world wide venue, in a world viewed venue.
This is US across the world. I'm sorry it's so offensive.
I find no no forgiveness for it whatsoever. It's really
I'm still so sucked to about it so long ago.
I can't get it out of my head yet.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
No redeeming social no redeeming social value to the combat.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
Not a judge.

Speaker 11 (34:09):
So thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, thank you for being patient, thank you for making
a point. You made it. Thanks, they keep calling the show. Okay, goodnight,
We've got to take a break. I got Michael and
fall River. I got a couple of open lines. I
want to finish this hour strongly, so light them up.
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. The question
is pretty simple. If, as expected, RFK Junior on Friday

(34:35):
not only ends his own campaign, whether he suspends the campaign,
whatever terminology they use or uh, and then endorses Donald Trump,
how much of an impact will that have on this
race in your opinion? And how surprised are you at
what would certainly be considered an unexpected turn of events.

(34:56):
We've had a few other unexpected term of terms of
events witnessed the Trump Biden debate and Joe Biden's reluctance
to step aside, and then his closest supporters in the
Democratic Party convincing him that he had to step aside. Uh,

(35:17):
this is this is an amazing election, and we may
see another amazing chapter unfold on Friday night. If it
doesn't fold that way, I'd love to know. Tell me
what you think its impact will be. Will be back
on Nightside. As I said, six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. Write those numbers down so I don't have

(35:38):
to repeat them as often. Back on Nightside after this.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Okay, first up, longest wait, Michael and fall River. Michael,
next on Nightside. Your thoughts about the possibility or maybe
probability that RFK is going to drop out and his
campaign and endorse Donald Trump.

Speaker 12 (36:00):
I am very happy to hear that he's dropping out.
I think he shouldn't have been in the race in
the first place. Okay, So I don't know, I don't
know why he was running. So here's the thing, right,
So I'm a Democrat. I would love to vote for
a Kennedy. If it was a Kennedy running, I would
be very excited to vote for them to president. And

(36:20):
I think that you now.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
You told me that he shouldn't have been running, and
you said you would have been delighted to vote for Kennedy,
But not that Kennedy.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
I assume exactly.

Speaker 12 (36:31):
Not this Kennedy. I've been saying for a while. But
I feel like the only thing that people need to do,
like the winning concoction for being a successful presidential candidate,
is be named Kennedy. And don't you know, do any harm?
And I feel that I think that what turns many
Democrats off about Urka Junior is his stance on vaccines.

(36:52):
I think he crossed the line there. I think that's
what keeps people.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
So I'm assuming, therefore, you think that his endorsement, if
he indeed is going to endorse Trump on Friday, we'll
have little or no impact.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
Yeah, I don't see it having much of an impact.
It might have a little bit of an impact, but
I don't think that. I think that anyone who was
considering voting for Kennedy probably would also consider voting for Trump.
So I don't think that his endorsement will really make
much of a difference.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
All Right, Michael, appreciate you, appreciate your point of view.
I'm just jamming a little bit to try to get
a couple of more callers in as well. Thanks Michael.
Have you called before? Is this your first time?

Speaker 12 (37:34):
I've called many times before. I was with you on
day one when you signed on the air.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, thank you very much and thank you for sticking
with me, and you will more call more often.

Speaker 12 (37:42):
Okay again, absolutely, I.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Always want to get as many different viewpoints and you
presented it really well. Thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (37:50):
Absolutely, Thanks Dan, have a good night you too.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
All right, let me keep rolling. You're going to go
to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, you gotta be quick for me,
Please go right ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:58):
I think this is going to be more like twenty
sixteen and twenty twenty. And I don't think the enthusiasm
except the except that the elites has the enthusiasm now
that Joe dropped out. But down here where the rubber
meets the road, Dan, there's not much enthusiasm for the
for Kamal, I can tell.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
You that much. Who's gonna carry Pennsylvania?

Speaker 10 (38:20):
I think Trump's gonna take Pennsylvania. I think we're gonna
get rid of Senator Casey. I think the McCormick a
less pointer, a purple heart guy, and a bronze star guy,
and a great leader. As far as business is gonna
there's gonna be an upset. I'm gonna tell you it's

(38:42):
not an upset here, but it's gonna be more like
twenty sixteen and all these people. Kennedy, Kennedy, I think
is gonna help Trump.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Okay, well, we'll see what happens. I appreciate it. Bill,
we've gotta get gonna get a couple more in Okay,
thank you, bigos Bill, Bill, I owe you more time
next time. Jim in Kansas City. Go ahead, Jim, got
to be quick for me. Oh I can't hit the
button there, Go ahead, Jim, My mistake, right ahead, Jim.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, Dan, I don't think that's gonna matter at all.
I don't even think anybody knows that guy's running for office.
But it's reading.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Crowd size is important because it's indicative of support by
the voters.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Okay, get your next.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Time, all right, thanks, Jim. Appreciate how much time we
got left? Rob a minute thirty Okay, Geo, I got
thirty seconds for you. Go right ahead.

Speaker 13 (39:33):
If I didn't vote for Biden, I might have voted
for Kennedy. I don't think it's important. I think Jill
Stein's vote is much more important than Kennedy's would have been.
But I did want to say something about Kamala Harris.
Her parents are both mensa IQ. Her father taught economics
at Stanford, a very conservative school, and her mother worked

(39:58):
for the Lauren National Laboratories, which is our most important
government laboratory genetics.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
All right, so there's smart, smart parents. Geeo, I got Jim,
but I'm getting cramped on time, so I gotta let
you go. Interesting. That's for sure a lot of smart
people at Stanford. I don't think it's quite as conservative
maybe as your thought. But that's okay. Thanks very much
for your call. As always, wish you called early, because
we have we're gonna have a longer conversation. I'm done
for the night. Tomorrow night, we will carry the entire

(40:30):
presidential nomination accept in speech of Vice President Harris. You'll
hear that. You'll be able to anticipate it at nine o'clock.
You'll be able to react to it when it finishes
around ten thirty or so. And I want to thank
all of you for listening tonight. And I want to
thank Rob, I want to thank Marita. I want to
thank all the calls coming back on nights side tomorrow night.

(40:51):
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That's why Pal Charlie Rayes, who passed fourteen years ago
in February, That's why your pets are who have passed.
They loved you and you love them. I do believe
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that with Dan ray in about two minutes. Have a
great Thursday. Everybody.

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Speaker 15 (42:58):
I'm Stacy Lynn. On the big political stage of his career.
Minnesota Governor Tim Walls addressed the Democratic National Convention.

Speaker 10 (43:06):
Thanks for putting your trust in me and for inviting
me to be part.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Of this incredible campaign.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
And thank you President Joe Biden for.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
Four years of strong, historic leadership.

Speaker 15 (43:28):
Former President Bill Clinton also praised President Biden and reminded
the Crows, I need more.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Than one election slip away from us when we thought.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
It couldn't haffen when people gotttracted by phony issues.

Speaker 15 (43:44):
Meanwhile, former President Trump held a rally in North Carolina
today and told his supporters the Biden administration has quote
marched us to the brink of World War three.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
What this November?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Americans are going to tell Kamalaris Kamala that we've had enough.
We can't take it anymore. You're doing a terrible job.

Speaker 15 (44:06):
In other news, there are new concerns about what fluoride
in drinking water may be doing to our kids.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Adding low levels of fluoride to drinking water strengthens teeth
and reduces cavities, but the Department of Health and Human
Services National Toxicology Program has taken a new look at
a range of previously published research and reports, with quote
moderate confidence that there is a link between higher levels
of fluoride over one point five milligrams per leter and

(44:32):
lower IQ. How many IQ points might be lost by
kids was not addressed. Michael Foscano, CBS News Washington.

Speaker 15 (44:40):
People may die sooner because of climate change, reporter Tracy
Woolf with detail.

Speaker 16 (44:45):
That's a triple in Europe by the year twenty one
hundred if current policies aren't updated to address the growing
threat of climate change, according to a new study published
in the Lancet Public Health Journal. The study estimates that
hot and cold temperatures currently lead to more than four
hundred thous deaths across Europe each year, but under three
degrees celsius of warming, temperature related deaths are projected to

(45:06):
rise by more than thirteen percent.

Speaker 15 (45:08):
CBS's Monica Rix tells us what Tailor Swift is saying
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