September 23, 2024 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night sign with Dan Ray I'm telling you pleasy
Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks very much, Dan Walkins, Welcome back everybody. We're talking
about a subject that, frankly, I want to hear from
as many of you as possible on and that is
is prolo or not prolo? Is covid? Is COVID making
a comeback? I was thinking about prolo therapy. No is
COVID making a comeback. I've seen some I use the
(00:29):
word vectors, meaning signs. It's just fancy word for signs.
I see more people wearing masks. I see there's been
an uptick in the number of new cases and the
number of new deaths in the last couple of weeks.
So last week there were twenty three hundred new cases
in Massachusetts. That's a fraction of what it used to be,
but that is a real significant increase from what it
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was just a couple of weeks or a few weeks ago.
The highest number of deaths last week sixteen deaths. So
some of the medical materials, medical journals, and it would
appear that COVID is a couple of new variations are
active in other parts of the country. So I'm just
looking for your experience. Let me go to Bill and Norfolk. Bill,
(01:13):
I appreciate your way through the news.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Go right ahead, Hey, Dan, how you doing, old Latin
school guy? You know, not as all of you as
I always say. Yeah, I mean, COVID is not going
away ever, Dane. So it's you know, it comes, it goes,
it's you know, I mean, what is the point are
we going to go lock up our houses again? I mean,
if we learned anything, those folks who are at high risk, Yeah,
(01:38):
we got to take care of those folks. But I
tell you, I'm not changing. I always call you I'm
a musician. I'm coming from my gig right now. I
do about four to five gigs a week in public places,
and I'm not changing. Man. You know, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Ask you this, okay, since you're out dealing with the public.
This is just you know, your observations, Okay. I understand
what we are. I hope that these numbers are an
anomaly and that this little, uh, this tick up that
I've seen in the last couple of weeks, because I
do follow the numbers fairly closely. Uh. And I'm also influenced.
(02:14):
I don't remember that maybe the government every September has
sent out these these uh, these COVID tests. What I
don't understand is why the COVID tests only last for
about three or four months. Uh if you if you
hold them in your in your bathroom or whatever, and
and all of a sudden you think you have COVID.
You go to take a test and you say and
inspired a month ago. But you know why is I
(02:36):
don't know why there's such such a short shelf life
in your experience as a musician is going out to
clubs on a regular basis, and congratulations with being able
to do that. Have you noticed that your audience there's
some more people wearing masks?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Or it's not not one, not one. I mean I
play a hotel in downtown boss And every Saturday night,
and it's in Chinatown, and it's a different area there.
Occasionally because people from all over the world are coming
in there, you'll see masks, but I see no, I'm
take a mass They've been masked now for the four
(03:13):
or five years I've been playing there.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
What sort of an what type of an instrument do
you play?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
If I'm curious, I'm a guitar player, and if I
can just quickly just I know how quick you got
to be here. Tell you my story. Last October I
had to go to England and I actually played over there,
so before I went, I got a COVID test and
you and I we grew up during the polio times
and diesel times, and I never thought twice about this
(03:40):
stock scene. Man. You know, I had at least four
or five shots. So I did it and I came back.
I wasn't feeling good at a gig here and ended
up at M G H E R in five days
of that. Uh. Initially it was diagnosed as a heart attack.
I got to the calf lab and I had five
(04:02):
percent blockage, so I didn't have a I didn't heart
attack at all. I had something called Perry carditis. Do
you know what that is?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It sounds like it's related as the hard I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, Perry cardis my carditis.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Usually both of them my carditis. A lot of people
suffered from that. As a matter of fact, the Red
Sox pitcher Rodrigue is the left hander. He was impacted
by that, and that also affects a lot of young people,
and it affects the heart muscle.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And guess how you get it first of all, most
COVID from viruses from viruses, but you also get it
from the COVID shot. Well, so I got that. I
had one doctor said he was ninety five percent sure
it was the COVID shot, and just based on my health,
I will wait what I waited in high school, so
you know what I mean. So it's and then that
(04:49):
is I'm not getting that shot done, Dan, So you
go ahead, man, if you want to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, here's the deal. I did get the Johnson and
john Hsen and I have still had my COVID card.
I just had my high dose flu shot a week
and a half ago, and I think that the iris
V shot might be more important for me. So That'll
be probably my next shot, and then I'll see about COVID.
(05:15):
I haven't had a COVID shot in probably over a year.
Uh yeah, but when when that stuff was really kicking around. Look,
I'm like you, I'm on the wrong side of fifty
and you know, I was very much by the way
the young state troopers who lost their jobs because they
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are used to including you know, you know Samantha Sila,
a state trooper whose dad died on the job.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Navy seals left the Navy, the most highly trained guys
in the world because they wouldn't get that shot. You know,
we let's not go back the way it used to be.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, I don't want to, but the same, Yeah, it's
the same. It's a it's a decision people should make
for themselves, exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know. But like the woman, the older woman who
called her, Yeah, you know, be careful if you're in
your eighties, mid eighties and you immuno compromise absolutely. But
I'm out in the world man as you are, and
I'm locked up absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mentioned my my pal Cliff Ritchie, great tennis player
in the in the nineteen late sixties, seventies into the seventies,
great great tennis player ranked up there with Connors and
Arthur Ash and McEnroe and had great matches with those guys.
He's had long COVID and I mean it has done
a number on this guy. And he's he was in
(06:39):
great shape, I mean great shape.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, it's unfortunately. You know, I had COVID twice and
it was less than nothing and it was like a cold.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know, you're probably you probably.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So Paxlovin worked great, Like you said, you do it
early with Pax Slovin like a dance. You catch it it,
it'll go away pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
All right, Bill, appreciate you. Pall continue to listen to
Nightside and let us know some night when you got
a gig going and and we can plug the gig
and and maybe get you a few nightside people going
to the to the show.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Mighty Squirrel in Wallfam Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Okay, I've never been of the Mighty Squirrel. Mighty Squirrel
in Wallfam Thursday night. If anyone is interested, Bill from
Norfolk will be playing there. Okay, are you the headline there?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Are you the are you the yes sir?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It's a great brewery.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's one of these brewery, Mighty Squirrel in Waltham. All right, folks,
if you're looking for a place to go on Thursday night,
Bill from Norfolk will be there. He's a night side listener.
Let's support him. Okay, I gotta work Thursday night. Bill, Sorry,
i'd be there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Good night, good night.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Six one seven, two five four ten thirty. We got
one line there and one line at six one seven
nine three thirty back on night. Just filled back on
night Side right after.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
This Now back to Dan ray Line from the window
World Light six Studios on w B Tradio.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Back to the phone as we go, We're going to
talk next with Lisa from Somerville. Lisa, appreciate your paces
you held through the news. Go right ahead, Lisa.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Oh, actually I think it's I think you want Rachel.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's me Rachel. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I think sometimes on the phone it sounds different.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay, So are you from Somerville?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I live here. Yes, I'm not rich, because.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Said Lisa from Somerville. So I now I got Rachel Rachel.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I think sometimes Yeah, it gives the story to sometimes
over the phone. Well, I have a very different take
on all of this from every from most of what
I've heard tonight. First of all, PC artists are notoriously inaccurate.
There are a lot of false positives and false negatives.
And the guy who invented them, carried doctor Carrie Mallis,
(08:51):
who's no longer with us, said he did not recommend
them for diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And when you say, when you say PCR tests, are
you're talking about the at home test? Is that what
you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
What is PCR? Standford, Because I've never heard it termed
that way.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I forget, I forget exactly right now. I could look
it up, but anyway, it's I mean, that's well documented
and if you're seeing, you know, people coming down with
you know, flu like symptoms, it's by the way, I'm
a retired nurse myself, so I really think that it's
it's probably more likely to be the flu, not necessarily
(09:30):
a new COVID variant, although that's possible too. But the
other thing that I wanted to say is that the
COVID vaccine has never been proven to be safe or
effective and has a very high rate of vaccine injury,
as we've heard from a couple of people tonight, and
I have some friends who've been injured by it and
really regret taking it. So I think people need to
(09:53):
You've been lucky, Dan, and God bless you. But I
think that it's you know, they removed this was an
emergency use authorization. It's a very political thing, and they
took away informed consent, so people don't really know what
the risks are when they're signing up for that, well, you.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Know, fearlessly, and I don't know if I if I Rachel,
excuse me, I'm sorry, Rachel. I don't know. I was
listening very intently to what you have to say. I
don't know if you've been on on before, but there
were a lot of people who we had on the
show back in the day who raised concerns and questions rightfully,
(10:40):
so uh and and and they So we kind of
aired out a lot, and I came here's where I
came to. You sound to me like you're you're pretty young.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I think I'm not. I'm actually I'm actually in my sixties.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Okay, well I consider that young. Anyway. Trying to make
is that I believe it should be up to the individual.
What really bothered me was when there were people in
the military who were being mustered out of the military
because they had refused a shot. I had a friend
of mine who did a sports talk show in Canada,
(11:18):
and he lost his job as a sports talk go
host because he refused the COVID shot. He was convinced,
like you are, that there was some potential side effects.
I defended, and I still defend, some state police officers,
young state police officers in their late twenties, about a
(11:42):
dozen of them who were fired by the Baker administration.
Who lost their jobs because they refused to take the shot.
And I felt it was up to the individual, and
I came to the conclusion. And I'm not the smartest
guy in the world, but I did my research and
I came to thenclusion that for someone like me, I'm
on the wrong side of fifty. As you maybe have
(12:03):
heard me.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Say that, it was not saying that. No, I like
the other guys take on it much better. You're on
the right side of fifty or you're still here.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
What Yeah, I get it, I get it, but you
know what I'm saying. So, if I were a young
man in my twenties or in my early thirties, or
a young young woman, I might be very much concerned
about the long term implication implications are and what sort
of an impact might have had on your ability to
have a child if you were so inclined. So I
(12:37):
am very supportive of your position. At the same time,
I think it's up to everybody to make their own decisions.
And people were critical. They said to me, well, you
know you can't sue, you can't sue the companies, and well,
that was negotiated. I believed during the Reagular administration and Basically,
the idea was that these companies had to spend millions
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of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars on
research R and D, research and development, and they weren't
prepared to do it. If they were, also, they're going
to be liable to massive lawsuits. So it's a complicated issue.
It really.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I wish I could talk to you for I wish
I just get you alone and tell you the stuff
that I know that I've really done a tremendous amount
of research on in the last few years. But we
don't have time.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But I've probably seen most of the stuff because I
have read a lot of the stuff that you're probably
alluding to. Believe me.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Okay, Well, I want to say I agree with you
one hundred percent that it should be a personal choice
and there should never be in mandates like this and
it's so unconstitutional. But I want to recommend a book
to you that I think might really really change your perspective.
And I just want to say that it's called Dissolving
(13:55):
Illusions by Suzanne Humphries.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Again, and it's all.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
About I have no idea who that is, so I mean,
you can.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Reck she's a physician. She's a physician. I believe she's
from England and she you know, has been she's she's
an expert on vaccines, and.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
They were they were physicians, that they were physicians who
had real questions. I understand that they were real. But
I think again, I think it's up to the individuals.
It's what I'm trying to say, and I think people
should be as informed as possible, and they also should
be informed by what they're exposed to, meaning, you know,
(14:35):
if they have some friend of theirs who gets real sick,
that's going to influence them. If, on the other hand,
they have someone who whose life is saved, I think
it's an individual. That's that's where I have come down.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Rachel's Yeah, I agree, because I have people who are
so convinced on either side, you know, and I'm just
not sworn enough to.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Be able to give you a definitive statement. But I'm
glad you called because I think it's important. Uh why
do you think the government is sending out more test kits.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
I personally think the government cannot be trusted at this point,
and they haven't done they have a whole other agenda,
So I don't we don't have time enough to get
into that, but they they have their reasons.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Have you called me before, Rachel?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Oh, maybe like three years ago?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, we'll call more Roff and we can discuss it
going forwards.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Okay, okay, thanks Rachel, Thanks, thank you very much, good night.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Rachel got a lot of time because Rachel had a
different point of view, where we're gonna go next, We're
gonna go next to Alex in the brock that Alex
next on Nightside, going.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Ahead, they did know, are you tonight doing great?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Alex? What's your take on this? Am I panicking here?
Or am I? Am I doing what Paul Revere did
many years ago and basically said, I suppose that the
British are coming, COVID's making a comeback. I think it is.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Well, you know what, I think everybody wants to take
the opportunity to capitalize on what could be a potential
threat to the community, the environment, everything.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
But you take a.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Look at the disease itself and you just want to
treat your symptoms. You know, if you were able to
treat your symptoms and you know, minimize the effects of
the virus on your body, whether it's pneumonia or chronic
sinus inflammation, stuff like that, things that can cause injury
to the body.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think, just how would you What I'm saying is
how would you treat the symptoms? Meaning and it was
if you're talking.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
About all symptoms. Usually it's usually a cough where you
would take like some kind of cough suppressant, something to
clear out the lungs and stop the running nose. You know, covid, flu,
it doesn't really matter. They're all in the same category.
I'm a healthcare professional. I understand the complications that can occur.
(17:11):
Whether it's covid or the flu, it doesn't matter. You
just treat the symptoms and minimize the effects on your.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Body as a healthcare professional. As a healthcare professional, do
you get a flu shot every year or no?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
The last time I had a flu shot was in
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay, so why did you stop it?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I could ask, Well, actually, my friend was chasing me
around the pharmacy. She wanted up her numbers of the
flu shots. But it doesn't matter. Your body will take
care of this self. If you're compromised, yeah, it's going
to be it could be a problem, but it's no
difference in the flu or the sinus infection and stuff
like that. It's all the same thing. Well, the people
(17:51):
need to stop planking.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, the regular flu, you know, kills a significant number
of people every year, but that it was just like
but it was it was a fraction. It's a fraction
of the of the the flu deaths were a fraction
of what COVID killed. Okay, I mean I assume you
(18:17):
recognize that. As as a medical professional, I'm sure.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
There's a there's a lot of people that are just
like predisposed to this this this problem, and they're they're
gonna they could get very ill from it. In fact, true, Yes,
if I could ask Alex, what do.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You do as a medical professional? Just generally are you
a doctor or a nurse or what.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Or what in that category? In that category, I see
it all day long.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Which one all of them?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Which what? You're a doctor? Okay? Fine, okay, yes, but
I know that there were doctors. Look, I'm not questioning
your credentials. I know that there are doctors who had
that point of view. I'm just saying that how old
are you? If I could ask.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Fifty three?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, so you're a young person as far as I'm concerned.
I mean that seriously, And you have no pre existing conditions,
so you probably are are following a good course.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
The general population will recover from this. There's no need
to panic, you know. You just you treat your symptoms
and talk to your healthcare professional and get the best
advice you could possibly get how to prevent you from
getting pneumonia, because that's what really is the downfall is
getting the pneumonia, and in this case, it's a viral
type of ammonia, and that's what causes the problem and causes
(19:49):
all the deaths.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But why why do so many people people with COVID,
Why do so many of them turn into pneumonia?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
The same thing happens with the flu, The same thing
happens with the flu.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
All right, but but I I took a flu shot.
I took a high dose flu shot. You know as
a doctor what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Okay, are you over sixty five?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (20:17):
All right, we get the high dose guy? All right, yes,
I mean you.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Recommend Let me ask you this, do you recommend your patience? Uh? Okay,
Well that's good, that's great. Okay, right, well, look Alex,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Yes, and continue and try to prevent yourself from getting that,
you know, serious infection and the lungs, that's the vital pneumonia,
that's what causes the death.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm with you. I'm with you on that. Thanks, Thanks doctor,
appreciate it. Have a great night.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, we take a quick break, coming right back on Night's.
I got one line and we we will probably we don't.
I don't have one line now. I have one line
at six one seven. We will take this to eleven o'clock,
but I will switch at eleven o'clock, so if you
really want to get in six one seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. I am gratified that this many people are
interested in this issue. I think it's an important issue,
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whatever your point of view. More than welcome. We've had
a doctor uh Rachel and Alex both were I think
fairly skeptical of what I'm talking about tonight. But I'm concerned.
And if you are or if you're not, it doesn't matter.
As they say, I don't care what you think on
a certain subject. I just care that you're thinking. That's
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what Nightside is all about. Six one seven, nine, three,
one ten thirty. That's the only line open right now,
that's open. If you're dialing the other it just filled.
Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Sorry, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Let's keep rolling here. We're going to go to Georgian Bridgewater. Hey, George,
welcome back to Nightside. Nice dear you boys, go ahead, George.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
V totally last year I had COVID day Left Island.
I was thinking about I think it was.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay, you know, George, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have
Rob get your line a little bit better to be
honest with you. Okay, So just hang right there. We'll
be right back to you. I promised Rob clean that lineup.
I'm not sure if he's gonna sell or whatever. Really
going and in Boston and you're next on Nightsager, go
right ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Hi, Well, i'd much. Hi, thank you for taking my call.
And yeah, well I love your show. I've listened for many,
many years.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
First, no, I have called before, and yeah, so I
just want to tell you my story. It's not about COVID.
But back in nineteen ninety nine, I was living in
New York City and I have no idea how it happened.
But somehow I got very sick and I found out
through my doctor that I got hepatitis B and it's
(23:05):
very very sick. I don't do drugs. I actually against
even POD. I'm not a person. I've never was around,
sleeping around or anything. I've no idea how I got it. Yeah,
but that's apparently how you get it, and I don't know.
So anyways, I came home and there's nothing you can do.
(23:27):
And I looked it up and it said ninety nine
percent of the people who get it recover. And so
I went home, I rested, I ate well, and I
got better and yes, and then the vaccine came out
and I said, hey, you know, I got that, but
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I actually have the antibodies now, so I'll never get
that again. And it actually made my immune system stronger.
And you know, a lot of people out there with
this COVID, I think that, you know, if you want
to get the vaccine or you know, I wasn't against
the vaccine. Everybody has a choice. It's what this country
(24:10):
is made of.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Freedom.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, everybody didn't have a choice. There were a lot
of people who who who lost their jobs, particularly people
military and police, officers, which I thought was crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well, I actually walked away from my job. I actually
not entirely. We closed down after the closed down. We
shut down and it didn't hurt me a lot. However,
I walked away from Boston because at that time, the
passport UH was going on where if you weren't vaccinated,
(24:47):
you couldn't even go into a restaurant. And I thought
that was just bizarre that that would happen in the
United States. And I just I really hope that it
doesn't happen again.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And I don't think we're at that point. I don't
think we're at that point. I'm not suggesting we are,
but I am suggesting that I see some signs I
use the word vectors, that that are pointing towards maybe
an uptake is coming at us. That's all I hope
I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I suggest that you know elderberry syrup, you make it homemade,
and it's wonderful, and you know, there's a lot of
ways too. I mean, it is winter and when you know.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
When do you make elderberry syrup? I've heard the name,
but I have no idea how you would make that.
What do you make?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's pretty easy it's you get buy some dry elderberry seeds,
and I would suggest looking it up. I follow the
recipe on wellness Mama.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
I like.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Honey at cinnamon and nutmeg, and I think garlic, and
that's about it. And it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
There's no whiskey in there.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Any whiskey in there in my theology of that.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I'm sure they did that in the old days.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
All right, well, Lee, and thank you, thank you for
that piece of advice. That's very helpful. Possibly, okay, thank
you much, welcome you. So let me get let's see
if George's line has got cleaned up. George, go right ahead.
Hope your line is cleaned up.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Yeah, I think it's cleaned up. I took it off
Wi Fi, put her on data T mobile taught me
that so much better.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah. I did get COVID the day you left for Ireland.
That was I think the seventeenth or something. I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's a year ago, year ago, this year right now.
I was in Ireland a year ago, you're absolutely.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Okay, yeah, yeah, And I took FLA plaque's lovered and
I just felt like I had the sniffles. So it
was excellent drug. But the reason why I called is
the VA told me last year they I always get
the flu shot because I had the pandemic flu of
nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine, skip seventy and came back
(27:02):
in seventy one. I was on my back for thirty days,
so I always get the flu shot. But the VA
told me, the VA told me this, damn and their
doctor is not nurses. I'm married to a nurse and
she thinks she's a doctor.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Nurse is often better than doctors. But we'll let we'll
let that go for another night.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Okay, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go by that. But
what the nurse told me at the VA is, look,
you're probably gonna have to get the covid shot every year,
every single year, just like you get the flu shot.
You'll come in put a flu shot like you do
(27:43):
on because I go to the VIA almost every month.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So I thought they were going to have I thought
they were going to have combined flu and regular flu
and then a COVID shot like a one one injection shot.
And someone told me that they have not quite been
able to manufacture that or master the manufacturer of that yet.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
So it's yeah, you're yeah, you you stole my thunder.
I think they're working on it, but uh, you know,
I'm sure in the future we're probably going to you
like to get the flu shot every year I do
what's probably one day going to be combined. I'm sure
Fizer and the rest of them are working on it.
(28:23):
But that's what the VA and the nurse told me
that she's I said, where do you get that information from?
She says, I talked to several doctors and it looks
like he's going to be needing the COVID shot year
after year. I don't know if you know it, but
there's two new variances out that are very contagious this year.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, what is called it? I think it's called KP
one K two and KP's yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Yeah, you keep up on this.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, I have to keep up on this.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's my job, George, I know.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Yeah, all right. I just wanted to give out that
in me.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Do be your favor when next time you call, keep
it right here, get off the Wi Fi and whatever.
This this was a really good connection and a good call.
Thank you much.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Oh great, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Thank you, George. Let me get Elizabeth from Tennessee. In
here real quickly before the break. Elizabeth, I know you've
never called from Tennessee. How are you tonight?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
I second to Elderberry because it does really work even
if you have the common cold symptoms. I don't make
it myself, but I get the organic from the supermarket
or the pharmacy and it works just as well.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Where about Tennessee are you calling from.
Speaker 10 (29:39):
I'm in Knoxville.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Really, that's the.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
Home of Bostonian. I'm a Bostonian. I listened to this
program religiously, but I'm on I work in Knoxville, but
I'm from Boston. Grew up in Boston all my life
in Dorchester.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
What brought you in Dochester? What brought you to Knoxville.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
Well, I, like I said, it was work the University
of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh well, I'll tell you. I have a friend of
mine who I made a friend with this summer, who
teaches in the journalism department at the University of Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Awesome.
Speaker 10 (30:13):
Well, I'm in agriculture and this university is huge. But
like I said, listen, they mandated vaccines at the university.
But I don't take vaccines because let me tell you
from the time I was a kid, I went to
school in Lincoln, Massachusetts, and when they gave us a
(30:33):
German measles shot, I got the German measles. When they
gave us a regular measle shot, I got the measles.
So I mean, it just went against my body because
you know, when they inject you, they're injecting you with
the flu.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, right, because that is what creates the indo body.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
Yes, well, let me tell you something. Everybody that gets
the flu shot now they get sick with the flu,
and you know what, it's a different strain of the flu.
So ever year they come up with a different strain.
It doesn't make any sense to me. I think that
your body has a natural way of fighting off things.
And like the other gentleman said, listen, fresh ear, sunshine,
(31:12):
take your herbs, fight that air nose throat. That's how
the virus enters your body through your ear nose and throat.
When I feel symptomatic, I put my face over a
pot of water and I steam and the symptoms disappear.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And let me tell you advice.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
I've been exposed to COVID over and over, but I've
never had it because I deal with the symptoms. Like
you said, deal with your symptoms and you eliminate it
out of your body. So I'm glad that people are
calling giving this advice which is non medical, because you
don't need the drugs. You don't need the drugs.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, I love you. This obviously is your first time calling,
because I've never heard from before. A big one of
a clause of Elizabeth. If you run into Professor brooks Clark, Okay,
I'm going.
Speaker 10 (32:02):
To look him up in the system tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Brooks Clark right, he had been worked as a sports
writer for UH Sports Illustrated and now he's team at
the University of Tennessee. And I met him this summer.
I had some great conversations with him about journalism. UH
and he's uh, he's he's from a New England family,
but he's he's teaching has taken him into the brooks
(32:26):
Clark c l A r K.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
I will look him up and tell him.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
You will listen into the show. Are you listening on
the radio on the internet?
Speaker 10 (32:35):
I am on the I am on the internet.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And let me ask you, how did you find this.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
Excellent nobody? I listened to this. I listened to this
radio station all the time because I need to keep
up with what's going on in Boston.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
In your hometown. Well, Elizabeth, come on back as often
as you. I really do appreciate it. I have a
I have a good friend of mine who's a state senator,
uh in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
He's not in Knoxville. He's kind of, I think, on
the other end of the.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Probably in Nashville. A lot of them are in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
He's in Chattanooga.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Outside of he's in Chattanooga. Okay, all right, is that
close to you three hours three hour drive?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, of course down in Tennessee. That's right. His name
is Todd Gardner, So I do have some connections in Tennessee.
Love to hear from folks from different different folks around
the country. I'm looking forward to your second call.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Okay, okay, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Thanks Elizabeth. That's a great call. Professor Brooks Clark look
him up. Thanks. Journalists, Yes, all right, gonna come right back.
I got Brenda and Winchester, I got Betty in the boat.
I got Paul and Pa and Ed and Merrimack. I'm
going to try to get everybody in and then we
are I think, well, unless we're going to keep going
on that. We could do three hours in this if
you want, okay, and we can hold off on the
(33:49):
Trump assassin and what came out in court today. We'll
figure it out. We'll figure it out because we're a
family here on Nightside. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
We're rollings and let's go to Brenda in Winchester. Hi, Brenda,
how are you?
Speaker 11 (34:08):
I'm good, dear, how are you?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm doing great? We got packed lines here. Brenda, going
to try to tay a couple more right ahead.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
Well, I stopped taking the flu shot and the COVID
shot last year because every year I was definitely ill
every single year. And then when I went to my
physical my doctor told me do not get the COVID shot.
And I said why and she said, just I'm doing
some research on what's in it, and she said, do
(34:39):
not take it unless I tell you to. So I
didn't take it last year and I didn't get sick.
I didn't get the flu. I've had the flu for
six years. I did not get the flu. I had
no problem. But the flu. The COVID shot gave me
really bad problems with my ears in dizziness awful, awful,
(35:03):
I'd wake up and I have no control that dizzeyness
is so bad. So right, Oh, yes, yeah, and you
know she said do not. She said, I've had more
people come in and tell me the same thing. They
never had any problem with dizziness.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, I think again, it's I think it's everybody has
to make their own decisions.
Speaker 11 (35:29):
I wear my mask after I'd want to stop wearing
my mask down at the drinks because there's a lot
of people around, and so it's the season to do.
And if I wear that constantly, I just I didn't
get sick at all, and I almost died two years ago,
and I have one of my lungs has been affected
(35:53):
and so yeah, and I you know, I don't and
I've got a terrible cough and I can't get rid
of it.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Well, look, you continue to get stay healthy is what
I want you.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
I am gonna stay healthy, believe me, I am. But
I mean it's it's okay if somebody else does it,
and you know, we're all free to. But I decided
when she said no flush, no, uh, COVID shot, I said, well,
I'm not going to take the flu shot. I want
to find out what's going to happen. And I have
not got sick once.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Okay, thanks, all right,
Thanks Brenda, talk soon.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Okay, all right, take care, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Good night. Let me see I just get We're going
to have to take this into the next hour. Okay,
So for those of you who don't get on, I
will take it into the next hour. Trust me, ed
and merrimack ed. You've been on the longest. Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
Yeah, Hi, nice to talk to you again. Dan. I
haven't talked to you in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
All Right, I'm back, more off and go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Oh, if I listened to you, you piqued my interest.
I won't get myself in trouble because I don't tell
anyone what to do. But I'm seven and I have
an environmental illness from exposure to chemicals in the school
that happened to me many years ago in Florida. So
I'm an asthmatic and I have to unfortunately take medications,
(37:13):
but i'd stay pretty well. But my observation is this,
especially in Massachusetts. If you take a car ride to
Connecticut or New Hampshire, they at least offer a lot
more places to go and use the facilities and wash
your hands. In Massachusetts, some of the places that you
travel to, there's no place to really get clean. And
(37:38):
just because I had been a nurse a long time ago,
I kind of watch and see what people do, and
I'd say a lot of people are not washing their hands.
They touch the dirty faucets after they think they wash
their hands, and you know, sometimes that stuff. It's a
simple thing, you know, And most people have a cell phone.
(37:58):
I wonder how often people will wipe their cell phone
with its obviously, and even you're steering, even your steering wheel,
or when you come home from the grocery store, you know,
wash your hands because you've been out with everybody in
the world. But the one thing I would say, I
would say this, I have not had COVID. I went
(38:20):
to my vacation home during the height of the pandemic
and I stayed there by myself, which most people can't do.
So I'm not telling people.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What to do.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
I did it for myself because if I got sick,
my doctor told me I could die. Before the pandemic hit.
I even though I get the flu shot every year,
one year I got influenza A and I was deathly sick,
and then my housemate got it because the air and
the house recirculates. But I would say this, if you've
ever gone to an emergency room and you've had to
(38:50):
sit there for six to eight hours, and the whole
society was dealing with this, The whole world was dealing
with this. I think the emphasis on getting the show
was they were hoping that it was the best thing
for most people. And when you talk about people in
public life who provide services, if they're coming to you
to help you, you don't want them to bring the
(39:12):
COVID to you. So in some way I think as
a as a general societal thing, I think there was
that kind of emphasis.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I think they would look over what they called at
the time herd immunity.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Or like yeah, or like how do we how do
we take care of everybody? What if nobody got the
shots and everybody got definitely sick and docking.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
I think.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
The eleven but rob is in my ear. I got
to get out of the way.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
For the nice to talk. Everybody, wash, wash your hand, call.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
That's what your mother told you. Call more often. Okay,
I thank you. I'd write calls tonight. Thanks. Thanks ed Uh.
If you're here, Betty on the boat, Joe and Boston
Paul in Pennsylvania were sticking with you. We'll stick with
the topic. If we have to, We'll take it all
the way to midnight, coming back on nightside
It's night sign with Dan Ray I'm telling you pleasy
Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks very much, Dan Walkins, Welcome back everybody. We're talking
about a subject that, frankly, I want to hear from
as many of you as possible on and that is
is prolo or not prolo? Is covid? Is COVID making
a comeback? I was thinking about prolo therapy. No is
COVID making a comeback. I've seen some I use the
(00:29):
word vectors, meaning signs. It's just fancy word for signs.
I see more people wearing masks. I see there's been
an uptick in the number of new cases and the
number of new deaths in the last couple of weeks.
So last week there were twenty three hundred new cases
in Massachusetts. That's a fraction of what it used to be,
but that is a real significant increase from what it
(00:51):
was just a couple of weeks or a few weeks ago.
The highest number of deaths last week sixteen deaths. So
some of the medical materials, medical journals, and it would
appear that COVID is a couple of new variations are
active in other parts of the country. So I'm just
looking for your experience. Let me go to Bill and Norfolk. Bill,
(01:13):
I appreciate your way through the news.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Go right ahead, Hey, Dan, how you doing, old Latin
school guy? You know, not as all of you as
I always say. Yeah, I mean, COVID is not going
away ever, Dane. So it's you know, it comes, it goes,
it's you know, I mean, what is the point are
we going to go lock up our houses again? I mean,
if we learned anything, those folks who are at high risk, Yeah,
(01:38):
we got to take care of those folks. But I
tell you, I'm not changing. I always call you I'm
a musician. I'm coming from my gig right now. I
do about four to five gigs a week in public places,
and I'm not changing. Man. You know, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Ask you this, okay, since you're out dealing with the public.
This is just you know, your observations, Okay. I understand
what we are. I hope that these numbers are an
anomaly and that this little, uh, this tick up that
I've seen in the last couple of weeks, because I
do follow the numbers fairly closely. Uh. And I'm also influenced.
(02:14):
I don't remember that maybe the government every September has
sent out these these uh, these COVID tests. What I
don't understand is why the COVID tests only last for
about three or four months. Uh if you if you
hold them in your in your bathroom or whatever, and
and all of a sudden you think you have COVID.
You go to take a test and you say and
inspired a month ago. But you know why is I
(02:36):
don't know why there's such such a short shelf life
in your experience as a musician is going out to
clubs on a regular basis, and congratulations with being able
to do that. Have you noticed that your audience there's
some more people wearing masks?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Or it's not not one, not one. I mean I
play a hotel in downtown boss And every Saturday night,
and it's in Chinatown, and it's a different area there.
Occasionally because people from all over the world are coming
in there, you'll see masks, but I see no, I'm
take a mass They've been masked now for the four
(03:13):
or five years I've been playing there.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
What sort of an what type of an instrument do
you play?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
If I'm curious, I'm a guitar player, and if I
can just quickly just I know how quick you got
to be here. Tell you my story. Last October I
had to go to England and I actually played over there,
so before I went, I got a COVID test and
you and I we grew up during the polio times
and diesel times, and I never thought twice about this
(03:40):
stock scene. Man. You know, I had at least four
or five shots. So I did it and I came back.
I wasn't feeling good at a gig here and ended
up at M G H E R in five days
of that. Uh. Initially it was diagnosed as a heart attack.
I got to the calf lab and I had five
(04:02):
percent blockage, so I didn't have a I didn't heart
attack at all. I had something called Perry carditis. Do
you know what that is?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It sounds like it's related as the hard I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, Perry cardis my carditis.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Usually both of them my carditis. A lot of people
suffered from that. As a matter of fact, the Red
Sox pitcher Rodrigue is the left hander. He was impacted
by that, and that also affects a lot of young people,
and it affects the heart muscle.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And guess how you get it first of all, most
COVID from viruses from viruses, but you also get it
from the COVID shot. Well, so I got that. I
had one doctor said he was ninety five percent sure
it was the COVID shot, and just based on my health,
I will wait what I waited in high school, so
you know what I mean. So it's and then that
(04:49):
is I'm not getting that shot done, Dan, So you
go ahead, man, if you want to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, here's the deal. I did get the Johnson and
john Hsen and I have still had my COVID card.
I just had my high dose flu shot a week
and a half ago, and I think that the iris
V shot might be more important for me. So That'll
be probably my next shot, and then I'll see about COVID.
(05:15):
I haven't had a COVID shot in probably over a year.
Uh yeah, but when when that stuff was really kicking around. Look,
I'm like you, I'm on the wrong side of fifty
and you know, I was very much by the way
the young state troopers who lost their jobs because they
(05:35):
are used to including you know, you know Samantha Sila,
a state trooper whose dad died on the job.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Navy seals left the Navy, the most highly trained guys
in the world because they wouldn't get that shot. You know,
we let's not go back the way it used to be.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, I don't want to, but the same, Yeah, it's
the same. It's a it's a decision people should make
for themselves, exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know. But like the woman, the older woman who
called her, Yeah, you know, be careful if you're in
your eighties, mid eighties and you immuno compromise absolutely. But
I'm out in the world man as you are, and
I'm locked up absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mentioned my my pal Cliff Ritchie, great tennis player
in the in the nineteen late sixties, seventies into the seventies,
great great tennis player ranked up there with Connors and
Arthur Ash and McEnroe and had great matches with those guys.
He's had long COVID and I mean it has done
a number on this guy. And he's he was in
(06:39):
great shape, I mean great shape.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, it's unfortunately. You know, I had COVID twice and
it was less than nothing and it was like a cold.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know, you're probably you probably.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So Paxlovin worked great, Like you said, you do it
early with Pax Slovin like a dance. You catch it it,
it'll go away pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
All right, Bill, appreciate you. Pall continue to listen to
Nightside and let us know some night when you got
a gig going and and we can plug the gig
and and maybe get you a few nightside people going
to the to the show.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Mighty Squirrel in Wallfam Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Okay, I've never been of the Mighty Squirrel. Mighty Squirrel
in Wallfam Thursday night. If anyone is interested, Bill from
Norfolk will be playing there. Okay, are you the headline there?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Are you the are you the yes sir?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It's a great brewery.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's one of these brewery, Mighty Squirrel in Waltham. All right, folks,
if you're looking for a place to go on Thursday night,
Bill from Norfolk will be there. He's a night side listener.
Let's support him. Okay, I gotta work Thursday night. Bill, Sorry,
i'd be there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Good night, good night.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Six one seven, two five four ten thirty. We got
one line there and one line at six one seven
nine three thirty back on night. Just filled back on
night Side right after.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
This Now back to Dan ray Line from the window
World Light six Studios on w B Tradio.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Back to the phone as we go, We're going to
talk next with Lisa from Somerville. Lisa, appreciate your paces
you held through the news. Go right ahead, Lisa.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Oh, actually I think it's I think you want Rachel.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's me Rachel. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I think sometimes on the phone it sounds different.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay, So are you from Somerville?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I live here. Yes, I'm not rich, because.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Said Lisa from Somerville. So I now I got Rachel Rachel.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I think sometimes Yeah, it gives the story to sometimes
over the phone. Well, I have a very different take
on all of this from every from most of what
I've heard tonight. First of all, PC artists are notoriously inaccurate.
There are a lot of false positives and false negatives.
And the guy who invented them, carried doctor Carrie Mallis,
(08:51):
who's no longer with us, said he did not recommend
them for diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And when you say, when you say PCR tests, are
you're talking about the at home test? Is that what
you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
What is PCR? Standford, Because I've never heard it termed
that way.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I forget, I forget exactly right now. I could look
it up, but anyway, it's I mean, that's well documented
and if you're seeing, you know, people coming down with
you know, flu like symptoms, it's by the way, I'm
a retired nurse myself, so I really think that it's
it's probably more likely to be the flu, not necessarily
(09:30):
a new COVID variant, although that's possible too. But the
other thing that I wanted to say is that the
COVID vaccine has never been proven to be safe or
effective and has a very high rate of vaccine injury,
as we've heard from a couple of people tonight, and
I have some friends who've been injured by it and
really regret taking it. So I think people need to
(09:53):
You've been lucky, Dan, and God bless you. But I
think that it's you know, they removed this was an
emergency use authorization. It's a very political thing, and they
took away informed consent, so people don't really know what
the risks are when they're signing up for that, well, you.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Know, fearlessly, and I don't know if I if I Rachel,
excuse me, I'm sorry, Rachel. I don't know. I was
listening very intently to what you have to say. I
don't know if you've been on on before, but there
were a lot of people who we had on the
show back in the day who raised concerns and questions rightfully,
(10:40):
so uh and and and they So we kind of
aired out a lot, and I came here's where I
came to. You sound to me like you're you're pretty young.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I think I'm not. I'm actually I'm actually in my sixties.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Okay, well I consider that young. Anyway. Trying to make
is that I believe it should be up to the individual.
What really bothered me was when there were people in
the military who were being mustered out of the military
because they had refused a shot. I had a friend
of mine who did a sports talk show in Canada,
(11:18):
and he lost his job as a sports talk go
host because he refused the COVID shot. He was convinced,
like you are, that there was some potential side effects.
I defended, and I still defend, some state police officers,
young state police officers in their late twenties, about a
(11:42):
dozen of them who were fired by the Baker administration.
Who lost their jobs because they refused to take the shot.
And I felt it was up to the individual, and
I came to the conclusion. And I'm not the smartest
guy in the world, but I did my research and
I came to thenclusion that for someone like me, I'm
on the wrong side of fifty. As you maybe have
(12:03):
heard me.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Say that, it was not saying that. No, I like
the other guys take on it much better. You're on
the right side of fifty or you're still here.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
What Yeah, I get it, I get it, but you
know what I'm saying. So, if I were a young
man in my twenties or in my early thirties, or
a young young woman, I might be very much concerned
about the long term implication implications are and what sort
of an impact might have had on your ability to
have a child if you were so inclined. So I
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am very supportive of your position. At the same time,
I think it's up to everybody to make their own decisions.
And people were critical. They said to me, well, you
know you can't sue, you can't sue the companies, and well,
that was negotiated. I believed during the Reagular administration and Basically,
the idea was that these companies had to spend millions
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of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars on
research R and D, research and development, and they weren't
prepared to do it. If they were, also, they're going
to be liable to massive lawsuits. So it's a complicated issue.
It really.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I wish I could talk to you for I wish
I just get you alone and tell you the stuff
that I know that I've really done a tremendous amount
of research on in the last few years. But we
don't have time.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But I've probably seen most of the stuff because I
have read a lot of the stuff that you're probably
alluding to. Believe me.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Okay, Well, I want to say I agree with you
one hundred percent that it should be a personal choice
and there should never be in mandates like this and
it's so unconstitutional. But I want to recommend a book
to you that I think might really really change your perspective.
And I just want to say that it's called Dissolving
(13:55):
Illusions by Suzanne Humphries.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Again, and it's all.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
About I have no idea who that is, so I mean,
you can.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Reck she's a physician. She's a physician. I believe she's
from England and she you know, has been she's she's
an expert on vaccines, and.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
They were they were physicians, that they were physicians who
had real questions. I understand that they were real. But
I think again, I think it's up to the individuals.
It's what I'm trying to say, and I think people
should be as informed as possible, and they also should
be informed by what they're exposed to, meaning, you know,
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if they have some friend of theirs who gets real sick,
that's going to influence them. If, on the other hand,
they have someone who whose life is saved, I think
it's an individual. That's that's where I have come down.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Rachel's Yeah, I agree, because I have people who are
so convinced on either side, you know, and I'm just
not sworn enough to.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Be able to give you a definitive statement. But I'm
glad you called because I think it's important. Uh why
do you think the government is sending out more test kits.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
I personally think the government cannot be trusted at this point,
and they haven't done they have a whole other agenda,
So I don't we don't have time enough to get
into that, but they they have their reasons.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Have you called me before, Rachel?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Oh, maybe like three years ago?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, we'll call more Roff and we can discuss it
going forwards.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Okay, okay, thanks Rachel, Thanks, thank you very much, good night.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Rachel got a lot of time because Rachel had a
different point of view, where we're gonna go next, We're
gonna go next to Alex in the brock that Alex
next on Nightside, going.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Ahead, they did know, are you tonight doing great?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Alex? What's your take on this? Am I panicking here?
Or am I? Am I doing what Paul Revere did
many years ago and basically said, I suppose that the
British are coming, COVID's making a comeback. I think it is.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Well, you know what, I think everybody wants to take
the opportunity to capitalize on what could be a potential
threat to the community, the environment, everything.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
But you take a.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Look at the disease itself and you just want to
treat your symptoms. You know, if you were able to
treat your symptoms and you know, minimize the effects of
the virus on your body, whether it's pneumonia or chronic
sinus inflammation, stuff like that, things that can cause injury
to the body.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think, just how would you What I'm saying is
how would you treat the symptoms? Meaning and it was
if you're talking.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
About all symptoms. Usually it's usually a cough where you
would take like some kind of cough suppressant, something to
clear out the lungs and stop the running nose. You know, covid, flu,
it doesn't really matter. They're all in the same category.
I'm a healthcare professional. I understand the complications that can occur.
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Whether it's covid or the flu, it doesn't matter. You
just treat the symptoms and minimize the effects on your.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Body as a healthcare professional. As a healthcare professional, do
you get a flu shot every year or no?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
The last time I had a flu shot was in
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay, so why did you stop it?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I could ask, Well, actually, my friend was chasing me
around the pharmacy. She wanted up her numbers of the
flu shots. But it doesn't matter. Your body will take
care of this self. If you're compromised, yeah, it's going
to be it could be a problem, but it's no
difference in the flu or the sinus infection and stuff
like that. It's all the same thing. Well, the people
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need to stop planking.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, the regular flu, you know, kills a significant number
of people every year, but that it was just like
but it was it was a fraction. It's a fraction
of the of the the flu deaths were a fraction
of what COVID killed. Okay, I mean I assume you
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recognize that. As as a medical professional, I'm sure.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
There's a there's a lot of people that are just
like predisposed to this this this problem, and they're they're
gonna they could get very ill from it. In fact, true, Yes,
if I could ask Alex, what do.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You do as a medical professional? Just generally are you
a doctor or a nurse or what.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Or what in that category? In that category, I see
it all day long.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Which one all of them?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Which what? You're a doctor? Okay? Fine, okay, yes, but
I know that there were doctors. Look, I'm not questioning
your credentials. I know that there are doctors who had
that point of view. I'm just saying that how old
are you? If I could ask.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Fifty three?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, so you're a young person as far as I'm concerned.
I mean that seriously, And you have no pre existing conditions,
so you probably are are following a good course.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
The general population will recover from this. There's no need
to panic, you know. You just you treat your symptoms
and talk to your healthcare professional and get the best
advice you could possibly get how to prevent you from
getting pneumonia, because that's what really is the downfall is
getting the pneumonia, and in this case, it's a viral
type of ammonia, and that's what causes the problem and causes
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all the deaths.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But why why do so many people people with COVID,
Why do so many of them turn into pneumonia?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
The same thing happens with the flu, The same thing
happens with the flu.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
All right, but but I I took a flu shot.
I took a high dose flu shot. You know as
a doctor what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Okay, are you over sixty five?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (20:17):
All right, we get the high dose guy? All right, yes,
I mean you.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Recommend Let me ask you this, do you recommend your patience? Uh? Okay,
Well that's good, that's great. Okay, right, well, look Alex,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Yes, and continue and try to prevent yourself from getting that,
you know, serious infection and the lungs, that's the vital pneumonia,
that's what causes the death.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm with you. I'm with you on that. Thanks, Thanks doctor,
appreciate it. Have a great night.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, we take a quick break, coming right back on Night's.
I got one line and we we will probably we don't.
I don't have one line now. I have one line
at six one seven. We will take this to eleven o'clock,
but I will switch at eleven o'clock, so if you
really want to get in six one seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. I am gratified that this many people are
interested in this issue. I think it's an important issue,
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whatever your point of view. More than welcome. We've had
a doctor uh Rachel and Alex both were I think
fairly skeptical of what I'm talking about tonight. But I'm concerned.
And if you are or if you're not, it doesn't matter.
As they say, I don't care what you think on
a certain subject. I just care that you're thinking. That's
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what Nightside is all about. Six one seven, nine, three,
one ten thirty. That's the only line open right now,
that's open. If you're dialing the other it just filled.
Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Sorry, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Let's keep rolling here. We're going to go to Georgian Bridgewater. Hey, George,
welcome back to Nightside. Nice dear you boys, go ahead, George.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
V totally last year I had COVID day Left Island.
I was thinking about I think it was.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay, you know, George, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have
Rob get your line a little bit better to be
honest with you. Okay, So just hang right there. We'll
be right back to you. I promised Rob clean that lineup.
I'm not sure if he's gonna sell or whatever. Really
going and in Boston and you're next on Nightsager, go
right ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Hi, Well, i'd much. Hi, thank you for taking my call.
And yeah, well I love your show. I've listened for many,
many years.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
First, no, I have called before, and yeah, so I
just want to tell you my story. It's not about COVID.
But back in nineteen ninety nine, I was living in
New York City and I have no idea how it happened.
But somehow I got very sick and I found out
through my doctor that I got hepatitis B and it's
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very very sick. I don't do drugs. I actually against
even POD. I'm not a person. I've never was around,
sleeping around or anything. I've no idea how I got it. Yeah,
but that's apparently how you get it, and I don't know.
So anyways, I came home and there's nothing you can do.
(23:27):
And I looked it up and it said ninety nine
percent of the people who get it recover. And so
I went home, I rested, I ate well, and I
got better and yes, and then the vaccine came out
and I said, hey, you know, I got that, but
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I actually have the antibodies now, so I'll never get
that again. And it actually made my immune system stronger.
And you know, a lot of people out there with
this COVID, I think that, you know, if you want
to get the vaccine or you know, I wasn't against
the vaccine. Everybody has a choice. It's what this country
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is made of.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Freedom.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, everybody didn't have a choice. There were a lot
of people who who who lost their jobs, particularly people
military and police, officers, which I thought was crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well, I actually walked away from my job. I actually
not entirely. We closed down after the closed down. We
shut down and it didn't hurt me a lot. However,
I walked away from Boston because at that time, the
passport UH was going on where if you weren't vaccinated,
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you couldn't even go into a restaurant. And I thought
that was just bizarre that that would happen in the
United States. And I just I really hope that it
doesn't happen again.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And I don't think we're at that point. I don't
think we're at that point. I'm not suggesting we are,
but I am suggesting that I see some signs I
use the word vectors, that that are pointing towards maybe
an uptake is coming at us. That's all I hope
I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I suggest that you know elderberry syrup, you make it homemade,
and it's wonderful, and you know, there's a lot of
ways too. I mean, it is winter and when you know.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
When do you make elderberry syrup? I've heard the name,
but I have no idea how you would make that.
What do you make?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's pretty easy it's you get buy some dry elderberry seeds,
and I would suggest looking it up. I follow the
recipe on wellness Mama.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
I like.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Honey at cinnamon and nutmeg, and I think garlic, and
that's about it. And it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
There's no whiskey in there.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Any whiskey in there in my theology of that.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I'm sure they did that in the old days.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
All right, well, Lee, and thank you, thank you for
that piece of advice. That's very helpful. Possibly, okay, thank
you much, welcome you. So let me get let's see
if George's line has got cleaned up. George, go right ahead.
Hope your line is cleaned up.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Yeah, I think it's cleaned up. I took it off
Wi Fi, put her on data T mobile taught me
that so much better.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah. I did get COVID the day you left for Ireland.
That was I think the seventeenth or something. I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's a year ago, year ago, this year right now.
I was in Ireland a year ago, you're absolutely.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Okay, yeah, yeah, And I took FLA plaque's lovered and
I just felt like I had the sniffles. So it
was excellent drug. But the reason why I called is
the VA told me last year they I always get
the flu shot because I had the pandemic flu of
nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine, skip seventy and came back
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in seventy one. I was on my back for thirty days,
so I always get the flu shot. But the VA
told me, the VA told me this, damn and their
doctor is not nurses. I'm married to a nurse and
she thinks she's a doctor.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Nurse is often better than doctors. But we'll let we'll
let that go for another night.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Okay, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go by that. But
what the nurse told me at the VA is, look,
you're probably gonna have to get the covid shot every year,
every single year, just like you get the flu shot.
You'll come in put a flu shot like you do
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on because I go to the VIA almost every month.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So I thought they were going to have I thought
they were going to have combined flu and regular flu
and then a COVID shot like a one one injection shot.
And someone told me that they have not quite been
able to manufacture that or master the manufacturer of that yet.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
So it's yeah, you're yeah, you you stole my thunder.
I think they're working on it, but uh, you know,
I'm sure in the future we're probably going to you
like to get the flu shot every year I do
what's probably one day going to be combined. I'm sure
Fizer and the rest of them are working on it.
(28:23):
But that's what the VA and the nurse told me
that she's I said, where do you get that information from?
She says, I talked to several doctors and it looks
like he's going to be needing the COVID shot year
after year. I don't know if you know it, but
there's two new variances out that are very contagious this year.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, what is called it? I think it's called KP
one K two and KP's yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Yeah, you keep up on this.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, I have to keep up on this.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's my job, George, I know.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Yeah, all right. I just wanted to give out that
in me.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Do be your favor when next time you call, keep
it right here, get off the Wi Fi and whatever.
This this was a really good connection and a good call.
Thank you much.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Oh great, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Thank you, George. Let me get Elizabeth from Tennessee. In
here real quickly before the break. Elizabeth, I know you've
never called from Tennessee. How are you tonight?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
I second to Elderberry because it does really work even
if you have the common cold symptoms. I don't make
it myself, but I get the organic from the supermarket
or the pharmacy and it works just as well.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Where about Tennessee are you calling from.
Speaker 10 (29:39):
I'm in Knoxville.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Really, that's the.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
Home of Bostonian. I'm a Bostonian. I listened to this
program religiously, but I'm on I work in Knoxville, but
I'm from Boston. Grew up in Boston all my life
in Dorchester.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
What brought you in Dochester? What brought you to Knoxville.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
Well, I, like I said, it was work the University
of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh well, I'll tell you. I have a friend of
mine who I made a friend with this summer, who
teaches in the journalism department at the University of Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Awesome.
Speaker 10 (30:13):
Well, I'm in agriculture and this university is huge. But
like I said, listen, they mandated vaccines at the university.
But I don't take vaccines because let me tell you
from the time I was a kid, I went to
school in Lincoln, Massachusetts, and when they gave us a
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German measles shot, I got the German measles. When they
gave us a regular measle shot, I got the measles.
So I mean, it just went against my body because
you know, when they inject you, they're injecting you with
the flu.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, right, because that is what creates the indo body.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
Yes, well, let me tell you something. Everybody that gets
the flu shot now they get sick with the flu,
and you know what, it's a different strain of the flu.
So ever year they come up with a different strain.
It doesn't make any sense to me. I think that
your body has a natural way of fighting off things.
And like the other gentleman said, listen, fresh ear, sunshine,
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take your herbs, fight that air nose throat. That's how
the virus enters your body through your ear nose and throat.
When I feel symptomatic, I put my face over a
pot of water and I steam and the symptoms disappear.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And let me tell you advice.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
I've been exposed to COVID over and over, but I've
never had it because I deal with the symptoms. Like
you said, deal with your symptoms and you eliminate it
out of your body. So I'm glad that people are
calling giving this advice which is non medical, because you
don't need the drugs. You don't need the drugs.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, I love you. This obviously is your first time calling,
because I've never heard from before. A big one of
a clause of Elizabeth. If you run into Professor brooks Clark, Okay,
I'm going.
Speaker 10 (32:02):
To look him up in the system tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Brooks Clark right, he had been worked as a sports
writer for UH Sports Illustrated and now he's team at
the University of Tennessee. And I met him this summer.
I had some great conversations with him about journalism. UH
and he's uh, he's he's from a New England family,
but he's he's teaching has taken him into the brooks
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Clark c l A r K.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
I will look him up and tell him.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
You will listen into the show. Are you listening on
the radio on the internet?
Speaker 10 (32:35):
I am on the I am on the internet.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And let me ask you, how did you find this.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
Excellent nobody? I listened to this. I listened to this
radio station all the time because I need to keep
up with what's going on in Boston.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
In your hometown. Well, Elizabeth, come on back as often
as you. I really do appreciate it. I have a
I have a good friend of mine who's a state senator,
uh in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
He's not in Knoxville. He's kind of, I think, on
the other end of the.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Probably in Nashville. A lot of them are in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
He's in Chattanooga.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Outside of he's in Chattanooga. Okay, all right, is that
close to you three hours three hour drive?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, of course down in Tennessee. That's right. His name
is Todd Gardner, So I do have some connections in Tennessee.
Love to hear from folks from different different folks around
the country. I'm looking forward to your second call.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Okay, okay, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Thanks Elizabeth. That's a great call. Professor Brooks Clark look
him up. Thanks. Journalists, Yes, all right, gonna come right back.
I got Brenda and Winchester, I got Betty in the boat.
I got Paul and Pa and Ed and Merrimack. I'm
going to try to get everybody in and then we
are I think, well, unless we're going to keep going
on that. We could do three hours in this if
you want, okay, and we can hold off on the
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Trump assassin and what came out in court today. We'll
figure it out. We'll figure it out because we're a
family here on Nightside. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
We're rollings and let's go to Brenda in Winchester. Hi, Brenda,
how are you?
Speaker 11 (34:08):
I'm good, dear, how are you?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm doing great? We got packed lines here. Brenda, going
to try to tay a couple more right ahead.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
Well, I stopped taking the flu shot and the COVID
shot last year because every year I was definitely ill
every single year. And then when I went to my
physical my doctor told me do not get the COVID shot.
And I said why and she said, just I'm doing
some research on what's in it, and she said, do
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not take it unless I tell you to. So I
didn't take it last year and I didn't get sick.
I didn't get the flu. I've had the flu for
six years. I did not get the flu. I had
no problem. But the flu. The COVID shot gave me
really bad problems with my ears in dizziness awful, awful,
(35:03):
I'd wake up and I have no control that dizzeyness
is so bad. So right, Oh, yes, yeah, and you
know she said do not. She said, I've had more
people come in and tell me the same thing. They
never had any problem with dizziness.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, I think again, it's I think it's everybody has
to make their own decisions.
Speaker 11 (35:29):
I wear my mask after I'd want to stop wearing
my mask down at the drinks because there's a lot
of people around, and so it's the season to do.
And if I wear that constantly, I just I didn't
get sick at all, and I almost died two years ago,
and I have one of my lungs has been affected
(35:53):
and so yeah, and I you know, I don't and
I've got a terrible cough and I can't get rid
of it.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Well, look, you continue to get stay healthy is what
I want you.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
I am gonna stay healthy, believe me, I am. But
I mean it's it's okay if somebody else does it,
and you know, we're all free to. But I decided
when she said no flush, no, uh, COVID shot, I said, well,
I'm not going to take the flu shot. I want
to find out what's going to happen. And I have
not got sick once.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Okay, thanks, all right,
Thanks Brenda, talk soon.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Okay, all right, take care, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Good night. Let me see I just get We're going
to have to take this into the next hour. Okay,
So for those of you who don't get on, I
will take it into the next hour. Trust me, ed
and merrimack ed. You've been on the longest. Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
Yeah, Hi, nice to talk to you again. Dan. I
haven't talked to you in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
All Right, I'm back, more off and go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Oh, if I listened to you, you piqued my interest.
I won't get myself in trouble because I don't tell
anyone what to do. But I'm seven and I have
an environmental illness from exposure to chemicals in the school
that happened to me many years ago in Florida. So
I'm an asthmatic and I have to unfortunately take medications,
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but i'd stay pretty well. But my observation is this,
especially in Massachusetts. If you take a car ride to
Connecticut or New Hampshire, they at least offer a lot
more places to go and use the facilities and wash
your hands. In Massachusetts, some of the places that you
travel to, there's no place to really get clean. And
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just because I had been a nurse a long time ago,
I kind of watch and see what people do, and
I'd say a lot of people are not washing their hands.
They touch the dirty faucets after they think they wash
their hands, and you know, sometimes that stuff. It's a
simple thing, you know, And most people have a cell phone.
(37:58):
I wonder how often people will wipe their cell phone
with its obviously, and even you're steering, even your steering wheel,
or when you come home from the grocery store, you know,
wash your hands because you've been out with everybody in
the world. But the one thing I would say, I
would say this, I have not had COVID. I went
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to my vacation home during the height of the pandemic
and I stayed there by myself, which most people can't do.
So I'm not telling people.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What to do.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
I did it for myself because if I got sick,
my doctor told me I could die. Before the pandemic hit.
I even though I get the flu shot every year,
one year I got influenza A and I was deathly sick,
and then my housemate got it because the air and
the house recirculates. But I would say this, if you've
ever gone to an emergency room and you've had to
(38:50):
sit there for six to eight hours, and the whole
society was dealing with this, The whole world was dealing
with this. I think the emphasis on getting the show
was they were hoping that it was the best thing
for most people. And when you talk about people in
public life who provide services, if they're coming to you
to help you, you don't want them to bring the
(39:12):
COVID to you. So in some way I think as
a as a general societal thing, I think there was
that kind of emphasis.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I think they would look over what they called at
the time herd immunity.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Or like yeah, or like how do we how do
we take care of everybody? What if nobody got the
shots and everybody got definitely sick and docking.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
I think.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
The eleven but rob is in my ear. I got
to get out of the way.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
For the nice to talk. Everybody, wash, wash your hand, call.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
That's what your mother told you. Call more often. Okay,
I thank you. I'd write calls tonight. Thanks. Thanks ed Uh.
If you're here, Betty on the boat, Joe and Boston
Paul in Pennsylvania were sticking with you. We'll stick with
the topic. If we have to, We'll take it all
the way to midnight, coming back on nightside
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