November 8, 2024 • 40 mins
After this week’s presidential election loss, some Democrats are rethinking their priorities and what issues they will emphasize going forward. U.S. Rep. Seth Moulton has expressed concern over the party’s focus on identity politics and suggests the party should shift its approach to transgender issues. Dan discussed whether it’s time for a Democratic reassessment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night Time with Dan ray On de Fleas Boston
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I have not checked in the last hour or so,
but I believe that the election results have been pretty
clear to most people. I think everyone, including Vice President
Harris and President Biden, have acknowledged that President former President
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Trump is now the president elect. He will be the
forty seventh president, inaugurated on January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
becoming only the second president to serve a second non
consecutive term, the first being Grover Cleveland back in the
late nineteenth century. The resurrection of Donald Trump rising from
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a phoenix was an extraordinary, a feat I had acknowledged
and I will continue to acknowledge that I did not
think that Donald Trump could win a national election. And
I know that there are many of you out there
who are Trump loyal Trump supporters who will never forgive
me for doubting that. But I have an obligation to
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tell you what I believe. And I also am a
big enough person to admit that I underestimated him, as
did the Democratic Party. The Democrats, I believe, felt that
Joe Biden was a weakened president and that by forcing
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Joe Biden out of the nomination, which he had won
with fourteen million votes. They persuaded him to resign. I'm
sure there was tremendous pressure on Biden after Biden said
only God money came down and told me to resign.
When I resigned, and obviously a more powerful figure came down,
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a former House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, who told him to resign,
and I think Chuck Schumer added to it, as did
George Clooney and probably Barack Obama. So President Biden, who
will not go down in history as one of our
great presidents, stepped aside. And the Democrats thought they had
had a great convention, it was full of joy and
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happiness and spirit in Chicago, and that they had dodged
the bullet of losing to Donald Trump because Vice President
Harris would be a much more formidable foe. Well, it
didn't work out that way. Now the Democrats, and I've
talked to some are really thinking, have we put ourselves
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into a box. There's been a lot of criticism of
the Democratic Party. I've watched CNN this week and I've
watched people like Van Jones and a variety of the
Democratic pundits just talk about problems. Now, some of them
talk about it in terms of, well, these are the
horrific suburban white women who did not turn out in force.
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They they blame everybody but themselves. Well, one Democrat who
was kind of looked in the mirror, I think. Uh
And and the image that that Seth Moulten was looking
at is not necessarily himself, but he was looking at
the image of the Democratic Party. He was quoted in
the New York Times yesterday saying that let me, let
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me quote this accurately. Uh he he was very concerned
about issues. Uh and he pointed out uh he he
basically said that he was blaming his party for being
out of touch with the American people. Uh And he
cited some transgender issues. And this was Moulton's quote. Quote well,
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out of the Times. Let me give it to you
in complete context, he said. Bernie Sanders was quoted. Then
it said Representative Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, who was one
of the two dozen Democrats who sought the party's presidential
nomination in twenty twenty, suggested the party should shift his
approach on transgender issues. According to Moulton, quote, Democrats spend
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way too much time trying not to offend anyone, rather
than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face. Unquote,
mister Moulton said, he continues, I have two little girls.
I don't want them getting run over on a playing
field by a male or formerly male athlete. But as
a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that now. Immediately,
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there were comments made by other Democrats, including Promila Jaiapaul,
one of the members of the squad. She's the chair
of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Of course, she said democrat
should not give in too prejudice and misinformation. Notice she
labels immediately what Seth Moulten said as prejudice and misinformation.
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She compared the fight for transgender rights to the struggle
of a gay marriage, in which public opinions shifted quickly. Quote.
We need to create space for people's fears and let
them get to know people unquote, said missus Giapaul, who
described herself as the proud mom of a daughter who
happens to be transd again, she has every right to
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be an advocate for her daughter and for members of
the trans community, and there should be no one who
discriminates against members of the trans community. However, the point
that Molten raised was a political point, and that is,
has the Democratic Party put themselves in a position where
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they have to be so right, so perfectly politically correct?
Now as a concert quins of all of that, we
reached out to Congressman Moulton this afternoon and I did
not speak with him, but I spoke with his press
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person and she told me that he was not available,
that they were getting a lot of blowback from the
party from certain segments of the party. However, I think
that the questions that he was raising goes far beyond
transgender issues. Okay, his own chief of staff, whose name
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is Matt Chiliac, has, according to The Boston Globe tonight,
resigned as chief of staff of Seth Moulton. Congressman Moulton.
The Boston Herald late tonight reached out to Moulton's office
for comments and they said, we're not commenting on personnel
matters office policy. Chiliac on election night posted on social media, quote,
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millions of Americans today showed that they hate immigrants and
transgender people more than they fear fascism. Unquote, mister Chiliac
that is walking past the graveyard. Okay. It is also
an absolute misrepresentation of people who voted for Donald Trump.
The Democrats have, in my opinion, focused on issues which
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are not of great importance to the people who elected
Donald Trump. All the exit polls show just as James
Carville once said, it's the economy, stupid, It's the economy.
And I'm addressing this to mister chiliac, stupid, it's the economy.
People in different parts of the country who have different
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points of view don't hate people, Okay, because you saw
that Donald Trump had increased the vote that he received
from Hispanics, from Blacks, from minorities across the board. I mean,
how Donald Trump does it. He is able to reach people.
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He's able to reach people, and Seth Moulten basically was
telling what I think is a hard truth. He's not
the only Democrat that I have talked to who have
expressed that truth. So the question I want to hear
from you, that I want to ask you is your
reaction to what Malton has to say. I don't want
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to talk about what you feel about transgenders. That's not
the point. The point is Moulton has basically said we
as a party have lost our way. That's what he's
really saying, that we have no longer focusing on the
issues that are most important to the American voters. And
that is proven by what happened on Tuesday. They lost
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four Senate seats, so they went from being a holding
the Senate by two votes fifty one to forty nine
to now losing the Senate fifty three to forty seven
by six votes. I believe that the many of these
House races that are now still up in the air
are in Arizona and California. They're not all that close,
and they're not like you know races that are hanging
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by two or three votes. They are they just only
have fifty percent of the vote, sixty percent of the vote. Now,
I don't know those districts to know how representative that
vote that is accounted is, or if they're waiting for
a community of great strength for one candidate or the other.
But I predict that at the end of the day,
the Republicans not only will occupy the White House and
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also control the Senate, but they'll also hold on to
their lead in the House. And so as has often
happened with losing parties, political parties. Someone has to say,
it's Seth Molten Senate and there's a whole bunch of issues.
There's a whole bunch of issues that the Democrats have
jumped on to uh symbolic issues, which are you know,
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politically correct, you know, cutting police bail funds for people
who have been arrested for burning down police stations. That's
not what the average American is interested in. And as
they say, I'm not here to discuss transgender rights, I
will tell you that Seth Molten raised the issue of
he does not want his daughters playing on a on
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a high school field. Look, when kids are small, when
they're young, I should say, when they're when they're little, Uh,
they have coit's soccer, because no one's going to get hurt.
Five year old kindergarten and first grade kids play soccer together,
the boys and girls. No big deal. Okay, But when
all of a sudden you have a daughter on a
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high school soccer team or on a high school swim team. Uh,
and all of a sudden, uh, a transgender female because
they don't want to be accused of being you know,
inappropriate now is going to be on that team, and
that transgender female is you know, six ' three and
has a much larger body mass. There could be some injuries,
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and that's what Malton is saying. He personalized it in
terms of his two daughters. He may not have picked
the right issue. Maybe he did, but there's a whole
bunch of issues where the Democrats have been pushed so
far to the left by the progressors that it cost
them the reelection of Donald Trump, and it probably cost
them the Senate. I mean Bob Casey, three term senator
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in Pennsylvania, Democrat, his father was a senator before him.
That seat now has been won by a businessman Republican
named Dave McCormick by a very thin margin. West Virginia
they were going to lose that seat anyway. That's become
a Republican state. That was the canary in the coal mine.
Pardon the metaphor, but it's really it really is the
canary the coal mine. In Ohio, Sharon Brown is lof lo.
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John Tester has lost in Montana. And that's what that
is what Seth Molten and I say hats off to
Seth Moulten because the Democratic Party has to get their
act back together. Here's the numbers. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Those lines are full. Six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. Both of those lines six one, seven, nine, three,
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one ten thirty are open. We're only going to talk
about this until eleven o'clock, So please, UH, if you
really want to express your opinion, take advantage of those
two open lines and let's light them up and we'll
get it going right after this break on Nightside. Coming
back right after this.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
By the way, Seth Molten, in comments to The Boston
Herald late today, Uh said this quote, I stand firmly
in my belief for the need for competitive women's sports
to put limits on the participation of those with the
unfair physical advantages that come with being born male. I'm
also a strong supporter of the civil rights of all Americans,
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including transgender rights. I will fight, as I always have,
for the rights and safety of all citizens. These two
ideas are not mutually exclusive, and we can even disagree
on them. Yet there are many who, shouting from the
extreme left corners of social media, believe I have failed
the unspoken Democratic Party purity test. We did not lose
the twenty twenty four election because of any trans person
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or issue. We lost in part because we shame and
belittle too many opinions held by too many voters, and
that needs to stop. Let's have these debates now, determine
a new strategy for our party since our existing one failed,
and then unite to oppose the Trump agenda or ever
it imperil's American values. And I would tend to agree
very much with Seth Moulton, meaning that I have friends
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who happen to be trans. I suspect that those folks
may have disagreements on whether or not trands should be
able to compete in athletic events against a female female
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student athletes, whether it's lacrosse or or soccer, which are
quasi contact sports. That's not they're not football, but they
can be as tough as football. And I I think
Moulton has has hit something here. So let's see what
people think. Yes, Noah, indifferent, Let's go to Ileen in
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wal team. I lean going to start us off here.
You have a first stack at this.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Go ahead, Good evening, Dan, how are you tonight? I agree?
I think we've lost our. Carmon says, I agree totally
with Seth Moulton, and my reason is there's a very
different It's very different from accepting and promoting something. Okay,
I work in an industry that an event at street
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decorated into so so I have plenty of everybody. My
crew is international, gay, straight, whatever. I accept them all.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to promote a transgender
lifestyle or a gay lifestyle. I accept that.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
I don't think any everybody else.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I don't think there's anyone asking you to do that,
and I don't think Seth Molten is.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I think that's what the problem is. They're promoting these
lifestyles rather than just accepting them.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, I think they're going beyond that. I think what
Molten is saying is that the Democrats not only are
are are supporting whatever however you want to say, promoting,
but then they're turning around and saying, well, someone like you,
you have to be transphobic or you have to be misogynistic.
I was listening to all these these commentators on CNN
this week that the black men who voted and didn't
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vote for Vice President Harris, they're racist. What I mean,
it's like my head was spinning. Yes, and it's always
you talk about the ultimate virtue signaling.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
It's it's like, look, you know you vote for If
you can tell me not to both for Harris, guess
what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I mean she had all
these If you tell me to keep vote for Harris,
I'm going to vote who it was against her?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah. Well, they have these entertainers who I have no
idea even who these people are. Megan the Stallion, I've
seen her like on Saturday Night Live. I don't know what.
Bruce Springsteen, He's a great singer, okay, but I'm not
going to be influenced by Bruce Springsteen. Beyonce? Why should
I be influenced by Beyonce? But I thought they thought
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they were dummies.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
No, they thought they thought there.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Were people who were dummies out there who would say,
oh my god, Bruce Springsteen supports that I have to
support or if or if Taylor Swift. I can enjoy
Taylor Swift's music, but I don't have to like oh
if Taylor Swift said this and the.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Democrats lifestyle, I can listen to her music and not
like her.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, I have no idea what her lifestyle is. So
I don't know, but you to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
But I'm just saying you don't. You know, I'm just saying,
but here's the here's the other thing. And this just
sort of highlights it very simply. In two sixteen, my aunt,
who at that point was in her eighties, Irish Catholic,
Massachusetts Democratic, whole life, said to me, I can't vote
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for that woman. And you know why she couldn't vote
for that woman because it would have put Bill Clinton
back in the White House.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
That was a reason.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Well, you know, there's a lot of reasons you had
to vot. There's a lot of reasons not to have
voted for Hillary Clinton. But I understand, I understand the
point you're making.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
To me, Kamala Harris was Hillary Clinton right down to
the pants suit only with bigger teeth and a smaller Braain.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I don't know about that. I mean, I'm not
into that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You don't agree with me, I'm just saying that was
my price.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I look, I think they're both very smart women. I
disagree with them on a lot of issues. They're obviously
dedicated to a philosophy of political philosophy that basically, the
government knows best and the government will take care of us,
and just fall in line with what the government says.
And that that that notion was out of style in
twenty sixteen, and it was very out of style in
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twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And here's the other thing in terms of women not
voting for Kamala. One was the sports issue, transgender women
in sports, girls' sports. But the other thing you had
Bill Clinton out the campaigning for this is a woman
who's supposed to be pro women. I mean, he was harassed.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And then on the.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Other side, at this point, is is a historical figure.
He's not. I don't think he's influencing too many people.
I lean, I got to run. I thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I have a good night news.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I have a great one. I got Anthony and Woolster,
I got Mark, I got Tom and I got Patrick,
and I got room for you. The only line that's
open right now, save your fingers, dial six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. That is we'll get you in. We're going
to change topics at eleven o'clock, going to go the
twentieth hour of the week. Give you a chance to
talk about someone who you would like to highlight the
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service that they provided to this country as a member
of the military. It's Veteran's Day on Monday. That'll give
us an opportunity to, I think, acknowledge the sacrifice that
a lot of people have made on behalf of all
of us, so that we can do exactly what we're
doing tonight, argue about issues. Back on Night's side right.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
After this, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Okay, back to the phone. It's gonna go to Anthony
and Worcester. Anthony, you are next to a KNIGHTSI go
Redhead Anthony.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Hi, Dan, and thank you, and I'll be as brief
as I can.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
You go to wat to.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
I don't disagree with what the Congresson said. I just
think the timing of it is a little questionable. And
I was a Democrat my whole life. I got out
of the party five six years ago because of some
of the things that the party was in, the direction
it was going, and the principle of what the Congresson
said I agree with, and I think his majority of
his district would agree with. What I have a problem with, Dan,
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is the timing of it. You know, the you know,
the idea that you know, he's coming up and saying
this now after he could look at the results of
the election. He saw and he was one that promoted
the democracy was on the ballot. Democracy wasn't on the ballot, Dan,
the economy was on the ballot. The safety of our
country was on the ballots. And so I just think
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it's a little hypocritical for the congressman to come out
after he's seen the results, not just across the country,
but in particular Massachusetts, Dan, I mean, there is major
strides made on the Republican side. And I'm an independent now,
so I can say that.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You Okay, First of all, I assume, by the way,
I know Seth Malted pretty well, and I think he's
a straight shooter. He's a guy who I think is
a really honorable individual. You know, served in the military,
went to Harvard, was our otc at Harvard, did time
in the military in the war zones. And so he's
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more than paid his dues. Maybe all along he has
harbored apprehensions and construmans. I don't know that I can
go back and find an article where Seth Molten a
month ago or six months ago said yeah, I believe
that transgender athletes should compete in women's high school or
college sports. That would be hypocritical. Maybe he never I
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suspect he's never addressed that specifically, and that he now
is saying to himself, Hey, this is an albatross where
on my party's neck at this point. Witness the results
on Tuesday. It may be highly acceptable in Massachusetts, and
it may hurt him politically in Massachusetts, but I think
he's looking at the larger picture of what's the future
of the Democratic Party. That's my take on it. I
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could be dead wrong, and if you can say to me, hey, Dan,
six months ago there was a piece in the Boston
Globe and he was all in on you know, transgender
athletes participating in high school athletics.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Yeah, then I don't. I'm not saying I have specific facts.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But maybe someone else does. Someone else does it with
support what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
It's it's just, you know, as we're using analogy in sports,
the Monday Morning quarterback. He's been in office for quite
a while, and I have no I've only met the
man once in my life at a convention in Worcester,
but I would just say that the timing of this
of him saying this, I think it doesn't pass the
small test, but I'll let you go to.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The Thanks Anthony, I appreciate you call. Have a great
weekend and joy veterans say weekend, Thanks Anthony. Let me
go next, Mark and Alston Market next on nightside.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
I got I. I think there's a lot of truth
in what Congressman Malton has been saying. You know that
I work at a supermarket and h we wind up
spending a lot of our time returning items to the
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else because the customers are so hard pressed financially that
they have to leave them at the cash register.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yep, I've done that myself. To be honest with you,
there have been there's some items I think it was
on sale and uh, you know, I I'm my pride
does doesn't get in the way when I think I'm
paying too much for an item. So believe me, I've
done that myself, Mark.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
And I think that to regain traction, the National Democratic
Party has to rededicate itself to what are known as
kitchen chable issues like making college more affordable.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think I think those are the areas where the
Democrats always do well.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Couldn't agree with you more, but I I'd be the
amount of fundraising appeals I get in my mailbox is
just so over the top. I mean, it can be
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very difficult to communicate to the Democratic Party establishment that
you don't have a lot of money to give. What
you can give is some volunteer time.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But well, that's a good point too, Mark, I mean,
if they're re lying. Look, I believe that the Harris
campaign spent one point two billion dollars. Some it just
they had more money than Donald Trump. I mean, it
wasn't money. It wasn't like Trump. The Republicans outspeed the Democrats.
The point you're making is an excellent point, Mark. The
Democrats had they were a wash in money. But what
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message did they use that money to deliver? That's the
question that Moulton's raising. You've hit the nail right on
the head. Mark. I got to keep running here because
they got tack lines. Outstanding phone call tonight, Mark, I
mean that you were right on the money tonight. Thank
you so much, have a great night, good night. There
we goes Okay, Tom, Hey, Tom, welcome back, Tom and
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the Philippines go right ahead, Tom.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
Yeah, you know I used to be a staunch Democrat.
I'm aware of being in a labor being in a
labor union. I went to the convention in eighty eight
as a delegate. First time I ever ran Ward ten mission. Hell,
first time I ever ran for to be a delegate
in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So there was we're a delegate a delegate for Doucacas,
I assume in eighty eight or was at the state.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Convention convention field.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's okay, Rob, you fix Tom's line for me, Rob, okay,
because just let him know that that was a horrible connection.
Let me go to Patrick in the district of Columbia
where all the action is Patrick, how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Well, the action is there right. Well, we had this election, right,
so it was safe for me to come out from
underneath the bed.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So I'm gonna have that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
And from what I experience in my in my world
and how I do things, is are people who are
working people, and they have businesses, and they work for companies,
and they have goods and services that are produced and transferred,
and there's all sorts of things that that different people
do a lot of different things. They just can't afford
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to pay for what the Democrats want because it's not
what they want, and they don't want to pay for
something that they don't want, not just once, they don't
want to do it twice. And I think that's how
we came to Donald Trump. We paid for it. We're
paying for it. Like in Massachusetts with the with the immigrants, right,
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you know you keep bringing them in here, you're helping
the pay.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, in Massachusetts we're now two billion dollars in the
hole because of the migration. Now, I know a lot
of people are going to say, well, that's because Governor
Abbott has sent them out of Texas. Well, did you
expect Texas was going to keep them there? By the way,
I think that today I heard somewhere that Mayor Adams
in New York has decided to stop giving migrants EBT cards.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
We can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, I understand that thinking. But yeah, matter of fact,
let me double check that before. Let me see. By
the way, one of the things you're concerned about is
civil defense, yes, and how we are falling behind here
we should be. Is either party addressing those concerns that
you have.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
No, it is a taboo term here in Washington, D C.
And while I got my eye on the clock real quick,
while you're looking at that. If you remember when Trump
went to Capitol Hill to stop the the the border bill,
let me just call it the border bill, right, Okay,
went in there. You know, now I'm a bad build
and then we're not going to do it. We're not
going to do it. Okay. If that bill would have
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gone through the Department of Homeland Security would have benefited
from that totally, would you agree there.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And so forth?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
And therefore it would go directly to the Department of
Big Titles and he'll get nothing but a bunch of
big titles and you're not going to get anything done.
The reason why we don't say civil defense is because
civil defense is civilians and you don't get registered with
the Department of Big Titles. You are a citizen doing
your citizenship, Okay, and that's that's it. That's it in
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a nutshell.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah. By the way, I've just checked out. Mayor Adams
in New York has apparently ended the EBT cards or
you know, food stamp programs for migrants. So that's an
effort that on his part. He's saying, it's basically it's uh,
it's it's it's killing New York City. So that's a
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big step. I mean, it's interesting because Donald Trump gets elected,
he hasn't been sworn into office yet. Uh and already
Mayor Adams has has has has has reversed himself. It
was only a few months ago that Adams decided to
make EBT cards available to migrants, and I think they would.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Be given three reaching into our back pockets, they can't.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Again, it's three hundred and fifty dollars a week. Now.
I don't know if that was for a family of four.
I'll have to do some work on this over the weekend.
But and I think we do the same thing, by
the way here in Massachusetts. That's a big part of
it as well. So yeah, we're very generous people. We're
very generous people. Patrick.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Now we pay for once, we pay for once, but
now you're making us pay for it twice, and you
keep exasperating the problem. That's why we'd yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, sir Patrick has always I appreciated hearing from you.
Have a great weekend. Okay, stay safe down in there
in in DC.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I will I'll keep my doors locked. Well.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, the other thing too is I think maybe maybe
maybe this inauguration will will be less controversial, and the
run up to the inauguration will be less controversial than
it was four years ago, because.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
It has to, because he won the popular vote.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right, yeah, and I you know again, I think that
that number is still holding. I'll check that during the
news as well. Patrick, Thank you, sir, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Good night. Let me get one more in here if
I can. Before we got to we have to take
a break. All of a sudden, we lost Tom in
the Philippines. If Tom wants to call back, we'll put
him to the head of the line, Rob. If Tom's
still listening, the lines that are opened six one, seven, nine, three,
one ten thirty or six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty. Mike and Beverley, Mike next on nightside.
Speaker 10 (30:45):
Go right ahead, Hey, can you hand men?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I can hear you find sir, Go right ahead. So, yeah,
you're you're in congressman, You're in Molten's district, right if
if I'm not mistaken, yes.
Speaker 11 (30:58):
Sir, I am, okay, I'll never even once.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
Okay, you never done in my area.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
But I know I heard about the thing today and
heard the city Salem councilor says that, uh, I wanted
he should fight, get fired and resign.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
Like the Democratic Party is out of their mind. Yeah, yes,
he spoke out for the situation.
Speaker 12 (31:21):
But Kamala Harris from all of that situations when they
years ago, before she even became a Joe Biden uh
in California, you know, And that's.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
What having that situation. As far as the Erica Adams
saying yes he did, he kept the money out. Todaymar
Healley's not gonna win. Like, I don't understand the Democratic Party.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
They're out of their mind. And why are they like
already on a ramp page to fight Trump on They
lost their election over a final me uh, the border
and crime. That's why they lost election.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Now, I would agree with I would agree with you
and that. I'm certainly we could find some polls which
would support that. But that's a pretty good trifecta the economy, immigration,
and crime. And I also think that that on some
of the issues that the Democrats were talking about. Democracy,
I don't think, according to the polls, did much for
the Democrats. And I don't know that abortion paid off
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the political dividends that the Democrats had hoped for so.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
I know, because they were pushing that area. Dan, that's
all I have to do. Because she said on that
eleven o'clock shows it was there something that she could
do differently, she says, no, she was done after that.
What she said on that view show once she said
that it was.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
A yeah, well I I.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Think what she said was there's there's nothing that comes
to mind, and that became sort of a metaphor for
the campaign, which was which was tough. Mike. I hate
to do this to you, but I gotta go. Well,
I'm past my break. I took you because it once
you have to wait through the commercials, but I got
commercials coming up, and without commercials, you and I don't
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get a chance to talk on the radio, my friend,
So thanks for the call. I think you made your
points well and we will talk next week.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Okay, try and get Momory Haley.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
I like to talk to her.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh, I'm sure she'd love to talk to you. Mike. Yeah, okay,
you got it right night. Good night. You've got a
couple of lines here, let's fill them up. We're gonna
be done at eleven at eleven o'clock, As I told you,
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moment in time every four years, it's all. It's amazing
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to me how well and how how how easily this
election went. I was fearful that we were going to
end up with a very close election and that we
would have people on both sides angry. It seems to
me like people on both sides are resigned to it.
Certainly the Republicans are happy. I know the Democrats are frustrated.
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like to chime in on whether you agree or disagree
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Speaker 1 (34:57):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Light Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
All right, let's go to Vinnie in Randall. Vinnie next
on NIGHTSID.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Go right ahead, h hi Yan, thanks for taking my call.
It's my first time calling you.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Give you a quick run of applause in my VIC
studio audience here is always welcome very much.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
That's why I said it was first time, so I
could hear the applause. I need something.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Nothing wrong with that at this point? What you thought?
Speaker 6 (35:27):
I was thinking about, you know, Seth Moulden and the
transgender stuff. And my thought is, you know, I don't
know what we should do. I don't know how we
should handle people with transgender But to me, what's missing
is we're not talking to transgender people and asking like what.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Do you need? You know, having men people women with
male bodies playing against women doesn't sound fair to me,
but to say, well, you can't do that, so therefore
your only option is to be the other thing, when
that's not what they are either. You know, a transgender
woman is not a man, so to put them up
against other men isn't fair either. What we need is
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to talk to the transgender people and say how can
we help? What can we do? And that's and that
carries over into everything in politics today, where we're so polarized.
Everybody has absolute positions one side.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Of the other. People don't want to talk. What we
need is just the opposite. We need people who are
going to be we have to be epathetic and compassionate
to each other and say, you know, how do we
help Texas?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Let me ask you. Let me ask you this. Okay,
so you you talk to Let us say whether it's
the parents of a transgender child or a transgender child.
Let's say who's fifteen or sixteen years old? And the
transgender child says, okay, I was born male, but I
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consider myself female, and I'm pretty good at soccer, and
I don't want to play on the boys team because
I consider myself female and I want to be able
to play high school soccer or college soccer on the
girls team, and whether the sport is lacrosse or swimming
or whatever. How conversely, on the other side of the room,
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you have a girl woman, a person's born born female
and consumemself considers themselves a girl.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And there's only so many players that can make the team.
There's only so many players that are gonna get a
lot of playing time or whatever. So you have kind
of what a law school professor of mine, Alfred Weisel,
refers to as an irreconcilable conflict. It's not like you
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can you know, as they say, you know, King Solomon
split the baby, and then the real mother says, no,
don't split the baby. Now you know the real mother
is what do you do? I mean if you say
to the transgender, yeah, you could play, and then that
impacts someone.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Who's well yesing. But I think what you say is
to the transgender, who is you know, a woman in
a man's body. You have to say to them, you've
got a male body, and it isn't fair to put
you up against people who have female bodies. So what
can we do instead? Now I don't know the answer, though.
My suspicion is what we need is to consider respecting
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them and then maybe creating transgender leagues in high school
so that people who are one that has.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Been has been, that has been suggested as a matter
of fact. Uh, the way that we could do that, okay?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And I know, and you're a rational guy here, Vinie,
And and I like your your your thoughts. There are
some sports in some schools that do not have enough athletes.
And I'll use an example of us. Let's say a
couple of school systems that they want to have a
hockey team. And in order to have a hockey team,
you need let's say eighteen players because it's an exhausting,
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you know, sport, and you you only have eight or
nine players at one school and eight or nine players
at another. And what you do is you combine those
schools and you have, you know, a hockey team of
players from two schools. That way, eighteen kids are accommodated
in the sport they want to play.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yes, So that's thinking outside the box. Yeah, that's what
you do. Yeah, exactly, it sounds I mean, well, I
went to high school where it was Coyo High School
in Tonton. It's Coyo Cassidy. Now I guess, but it
was Coil back in my day, and we were a
small school. You know, we just barely got enough people
to play, you know, in football or whatever. But we
managed to get enough.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
But again, they say, particularly particularly on some if, for example,
that you've got a few kids who want to play
on a golf team, and you know enough kids for
a real golf team, you combine a couple of schools
exactly you have.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Definitely, Vinny, I think it's a wonderful idea, too great.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, it was your idea. I'm only tagging along with it.
That's a great idea, Vinnie. Thank you very much. We'll
talk much more about this, I'm sure in the weeks
and months ahead. I suspect great.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Thanks. Thanks such to night.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
You're welcome. Thank you, Vinnie. Okay, we get back. It'll
be the twentieth hour. And by the way, I do
think that Republicans will hold the House. And my prediction
on that I'm just doing some math here is I
think they'll hold the House with about two hundred and
twenty two or two hundred and twenty three seats to
two hundred and twelve two hundred and thirteen for the Democrats.
There will be not much of a change. The Republicans
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I have not checked in the last hour or so,
but I believe that the election results have been pretty
clear to most people. I think everyone, including Vice President
Harris and President Biden, have acknowledged that President former President
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Trump is now the president elect. He will be the
forty seventh president, inaugurated on January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
becoming only the second president to serve a second non
consecutive term, the first being Grover Cleveland back in the
late nineteenth century. The resurrection of Donald Trump rising from
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a phoenix was an extraordinary, a feat I had acknowledged
and I will continue to acknowledge that I did not
think that Donald Trump could win a national election. And
I know that there are many of you out there
who are Trump loyal Trump supporters who will never forgive
me for doubting that. But I have an obligation to
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tell you what I believe. And I also am a
big enough person to admit that I underestimated him, as
did the Democratic Party. The Democrats, I believe, felt that
Joe Biden was a weakened president and that by forcing
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Joe Biden out of the nomination, which he had won
with fourteen million votes. They persuaded him to resign. I'm
sure there was tremendous pressure on Biden after Biden said
only God money came down and told me to resign.
When I resigned, and obviously a more powerful figure came down,
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a former House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, who told him to resign,
and I think Chuck Schumer added to it, as did
George Clooney and probably Barack Obama. So President Biden, who
will not go down in history as one of our
great presidents, stepped aside. And the Democrats thought they had
had a great convention, it was full of joy and
(02:21):
happiness and spirit in Chicago, and that they had dodged
the bullet of losing to Donald Trump because Vice President
Harris would be a much more formidable foe. Well, it
didn't work out that way. Now the Democrats, and I've
talked to some are really thinking, have we put ourselves
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into a box. There's been a lot of criticism of
the Democratic Party. I've watched CNN this week and I've
watched people like Van Jones and a variety of the
Democratic pundits just talk about problems. Now, some of them
talk about it in terms of, well, these are the
horrific suburban white women who did not turn out in force.
(03:08):
They they blame everybody but themselves. Well, one Democrat who
was kind of looked in the mirror, I think. Uh
And and the image that that Seth Moulten was looking
at is not necessarily himself, but he was looking at
the image of the Democratic Party. He was quoted in
the New York Times yesterday saying that let me, let
(03:35):
me quote this accurately. Uh he he was very concerned
about issues. Uh and he pointed out uh he he
basically said that he was blaming his party for being
out of touch with the American people. Uh And he
cited some transgender issues. And this was Moulton's quote. Quote well,
(04:00):
out of the Times. Let me give it to you
in complete context, he said. Bernie Sanders was quoted. Then
it said Representative Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, who was one
of the two dozen Democrats who sought the party's presidential
nomination in twenty twenty, suggested the party should shift his
approach on transgender issues. According to Moulton, quote, Democrats spend
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way too much time trying not to offend anyone, rather
than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face. Unquote,
mister Moulton said, he continues, I have two little girls.
I don't want them getting run over on a playing
field by a male or formerly male athlete. But as
a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that now. Immediately,
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there were comments made by other Democrats, including Promila Jaiapaul,
one of the members of the squad. She's the chair
of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Of course, she said democrat
should not give in too prejudice and misinformation. Notice she
labels immediately what Seth Moulten said as prejudice and misinformation.
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She compared the fight for transgender rights to the struggle
of a gay marriage, in which public opinions shifted quickly. Quote.
We need to create space for people's fears and let
them get to know people unquote, said missus Giapaul, who
described herself as the proud mom of a daughter who
happens to be transd again, she has every right to
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be an advocate for her daughter and for members of
the trans community, and there should be no one who
discriminates against members of the trans community. However, the point
that Molten raised was a political point, and that is,
has the Democratic Party put themselves in a position where
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they have to be so right, so perfectly politically correct?
Now as a concert quins of all of that, we
reached out to Congressman Moulton this afternoon and I did
not speak with him, but I spoke with his press
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person and she told me that he was not available,
that they were getting a lot of blowback from the
party from certain segments of the party. However, I think
that the questions that he was raising goes far beyond
transgender issues. Okay, his own chief of staff, whose name
(06:38):
is Matt Chiliac, has, according to The Boston Globe tonight,
resigned as chief of staff of Seth Moulton. Congressman Moulton.
The Boston Herald late tonight reached out to Moulton's office
for comments and they said, we're not commenting on personnel
matters office policy. Chiliac on election night posted on social media, quote,
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millions of Americans today showed that they hate immigrants and
transgender people more than they fear fascism. Unquote, mister Chiliac
that is walking past the graveyard. Okay. It is also
an absolute misrepresentation of people who voted for Donald Trump.
The Democrats have, in my opinion, focused on issues which
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are not of great importance to the people who elected
Donald Trump. All the exit polls show just as James
Carville once said, it's the economy, stupid, It's the economy.
And I'm addressing this to mister chiliac, stupid, it's the economy.
People in different parts of the country who have different
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points of view don't hate people, Okay, because you saw
that Donald Trump had increased the vote that he received
from Hispanics, from Blacks, from minorities across the board. I mean,
how Donald Trump does it. He is able to reach people.
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He's able to reach people, and Seth Moulten basically was
telling what I think is a hard truth. He's not
the only Democrat that I have talked to who have
expressed that truth. So the question I want to hear
from you, that I want to ask you is your
reaction to what Malton has to say. I don't want
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to talk about what you feel about transgenders. That's not
the point. The point is Moulton has basically said we
as a party have lost our way. That's what he's
really saying, that we have no longer focusing on the
issues that are most important to the American voters. And
that is proven by what happened on Tuesday. They lost
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four Senate seats, so they went from being a holding
the Senate by two votes fifty one to forty nine
to now losing the Senate fifty three to forty seven
by six votes. I believe that the many of these
House races that are now still up in the air
are in Arizona and California. They're not all that close,
and they're not like you know races that are hanging
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by two or three votes. They are they just only
have fifty percent of the vote, sixty percent of the vote. Now,
I don't know those districts to know how representative that
vote that is accounted is, or if they're waiting for
a community of great strength for one candidate or the other.
But I predict that at the end of the day,
the Republicans not only will occupy the White House and
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also control the Senate, but they'll also hold on to
their lead in the House. And so as has often
happened with losing parties, political parties. Someone has to say,
it's Seth Molten Senate and there's a whole bunch of issues.
There's a whole bunch of issues that the Democrats have
jumped on to uh symbolic issues, which are you know,
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politically correct, you know, cutting police bail funds for people
who have been arrested for burning down police stations. That's
not what the average American is interested in. And as
they say, I'm not here to discuss transgender rights, I
will tell you that Seth Molten raised the issue of
he does not want his daughters playing on a on
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a high school field. Look, when kids are small, when
they're young, I should say, when they're when they're little, Uh,
they have coit's soccer, because no one's going to get hurt.
Five year old kindergarten and first grade kids play soccer together,
the boys and girls. No big deal. Okay, But when
all of a sudden you have a daughter on a
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high school soccer team or on a high school swim team. Uh,
and all of a sudden, uh, a transgender female because
they don't want to be accused of being you know,
inappropriate now is going to be on that team, and
that transgender female is you know, six ' three and
has a much larger body mass. There could be some injuries,
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and that's what Malton is saying. He personalized it in
terms of his two daughters. He may not have picked
the right issue. Maybe he did, but there's a whole
bunch of issues where the Democrats have been pushed so
far to the left by the progressors that it cost
them the reelection of Donald Trump, and it probably cost
them the Senate. I mean Bob Casey, three term senator
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in Pennsylvania, Democrat, his father was a senator before him.
That seat now has been won by a businessman Republican
named Dave McCormick by a very thin margin. West Virginia
they were going to lose that seat anyway. That's become
a Republican state. That was the canary in the coal mine.
Pardon the metaphor, but it's really it really is the
canary the coal mine. In Ohio, Sharon Brown is lof lo.
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John Tester has lost in Montana. And that's what that
is what Seth Molten and I say hats off to
Seth Moulten because the Democratic Party has to get their
act back together. Here's the numbers. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
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Speaker 1 (12:39):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
By the way, Seth Molten, in comments to The Boston
Herald late today, Uh said this quote, I stand firmly
in my belief for the need for competitive women's sports
to put limits on the participation of those with the
unfair physical advantages that come with being born male. I'm
also a strong supporter of the civil rights of all Americans,
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including transgender rights. I will fight, as I always have,
for the rights and safety of all citizens. These two
ideas are not mutually exclusive, and we can even disagree
on them. Yet there are many who, shouting from the
extreme left corners of social media, believe I have failed
the unspoken Democratic Party purity test. We did not lose
the twenty twenty four election because of any trans person
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or issue. We lost in part because we shame and
belittle too many opinions held by too many voters, and
that needs to stop. Let's have these debates now, determine
a new strategy for our party since our existing one failed,
and then unite to oppose the Trump agenda or ever
it imperil's American values. And I would tend to agree
very much with Seth Moulton, meaning that I have friends
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who happen to be trans. I suspect that those folks
may have disagreements on whether or not trands should be
able to compete in athletic events against a female female
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student athletes, whether it's lacrosse or or soccer, which are
quasi contact sports. That's not they're not football, but they
can be as tough as football. And I I think
Moulton has has hit something here. So let's see what
people think. Yes, Noah, indifferent, Let's go to Ileen in
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wal team. I lean going to start us off here.
You have a first stack at this.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Go ahead, Good evening, Dan, how are you tonight? I agree?
I think we've lost our. Carmon says, I agree totally
with Seth Moulton, and my reason is there's a very
different It's very different from accepting and promoting something. Okay,
I work in an industry that an event at street
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decorated into so so I have plenty of everybody. My
crew is international, gay, straight, whatever. I accept them all.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to promote a transgender
lifestyle or a gay lifestyle. I accept that.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
I don't think any everybody else.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I don't think there's anyone asking you to do that,
and I don't think Seth Molten is.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I think that's what the problem is. They're promoting these
lifestyles rather than just accepting them.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, I think they're going beyond that. I think what
Molten is saying is that the Democrats not only are
are are supporting whatever however you want to say, promoting,
but then they're turning around and saying, well, someone like you,
you have to be transphobic or you have to be misogynistic.
I was listening to all these these commentators on CNN
this week that the black men who voted and didn't
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vote for Vice President Harris, they're racist. What I mean,
it's like my head was spinning. Yes, and it's always
you talk about the ultimate virtue signaling.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
It's it's like, look, you know you vote for If
you can tell me not to both for Harris, guess
what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I mean she had all
these If you tell me to keep vote for Harris,
I'm going to vote who it was against her?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah. Well, they have these entertainers who I have no
idea even who these people are. Megan the Stallion, I've
seen her like on Saturday Night Live. I don't know what.
Bruce Springsteen, He's a great singer, okay, but I'm not
going to be influenced by Bruce Springsteen. Beyonce? Why should
I be influenced by Beyonce? But I thought they thought
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they were dummies.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
No, they thought they thought there.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Were people who were dummies out there who would say,
oh my god, Bruce Springsteen supports that I have to
support or if or if Taylor Swift. I can enjoy
Taylor Swift's music, but I don't have to like oh
if Taylor Swift said this and the.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Democrats lifestyle, I can listen to her music and not
like her.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, I have no idea what her lifestyle is. So
I don't know, but you to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
But I'm just saying you don't. You know, I'm just saying,
but here's the here's the other thing. And this just
sort of highlights it very simply. In two sixteen, my aunt,
who at that point was in her eighties, Irish Catholic,
Massachusetts Democratic, whole life, said to me, I can't vote
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for that woman. And you know why she couldn't vote
for that woman because it would have put Bill Clinton
back in the White House.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
That was a reason.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Well, you know, there's a lot of reasons you had
to vot. There's a lot of reasons not to have
voted for Hillary Clinton. But I understand, I understand the
point you're making.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
To me, Kamala Harris was Hillary Clinton right down to
the pants suit only with bigger teeth and a smaller Braain.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I don't know about that. I mean, I'm not
into that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You don't agree with me, I'm just saying that was
my price.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I look, I think they're both very smart women. I
disagree with them on a lot of issues. They're obviously
dedicated to a philosophy of political philosophy that basically, the
government knows best and the government will take care of us,
and just fall in line with what the government says.
And that that that notion was out of style in
twenty sixteen, and it was very out of style in
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twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And here's the other thing in terms of women not
voting for Kamala. One was the sports issue, transgender women
in sports, girls' sports. But the other thing you had
Bill Clinton out the campaigning for this is a woman
who's supposed to be pro women. I mean, he was harassed.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And then on the.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Other side, at this point, is is a historical figure.
He's not. I don't think he's influencing too many people.
I lean, I got to run. I thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I have a good night news.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I have a great one. I got Anthony and Woolster,
I got Mark, I got Tom and I got Patrick,
and I got room for you. The only line that's
open right now, save your fingers, dial six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. That is we'll get you in. We're going
to change topics at eleven o'clock, going to go the
twentieth hour of the week. Give you a chance to
talk about someone who you would like to highlight the
(19:06):
service that they provided to this country as a member
of the military. It's Veteran's Day on Monday. That'll give
us an opportunity to, I think, acknowledge the sacrifice that
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Speaker 1 (19:22):
After this, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Okay, back to the phone. It's gonna go to Anthony
and Worcester. Anthony, you are next to a KNIGHTSI go
Redhead Anthony.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Hi, Dan, and thank you, and I'll be as brief
as I can.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
You go to wat to.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
I don't disagree with what the Congresson said. I just
think the timing of it is a little questionable. And
I was a Democrat my whole life. I got out
of the party five six years ago because of some
of the things that the party was in, the direction
it was going, and the principle of what the Congresson
said I agree with, and I think his majority of
his district would agree with. What I have a problem with, Dan,
(20:04):
is the timing of it. You know, the you know,
the idea that you know, he's coming up and saying
this now after he could look at the results of
the election. He saw and he was one that promoted
the democracy was on the ballot. Democracy wasn't on the ballot, Dan,
the economy was on the ballot. The safety of our
country was on the ballots. And so I just think
(20:26):
it's a little hypocritical for the congressman to come out
after he's seen the results, not just across the country,
but in particular Massachusetts, Dan, I mean, there is major
strides made on the Republican side. And I'm an independent now,
so I can say that.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You Okay, First of all, I assume, by the way,
I know Seth Malted pretty well, and I think he's
a straight shooter. He's a guy who I think is
a really honorable individual. You know, served in the military,
went to Harvard, was our otc at Harvard, did time
in the military in the war zones. And so he's
(21:04):
more than paid his dues. Maybe all along he has
harbored apprehensions and construmans. I don't know that I can
go back and find an article where Seth Molten a
month ago or six months ago said yeah, I believe
that transgender athletes should compete in women's high school or
college sports. That would be hypocritical. Maybe he never I
(21:26):
suspect he's never addressed that specifically, and that he now
is saying to himself, Hey, this is an albatross where
on my party's neck at this point. Witness the results
on Tuesday. It may be highly acceptable in Massachusetts, and
it may hurt him politically in Massachusetts, but I think
he's looking at the larger picture of what's the future
of the Democratic Party. That's my take on it. I
(21:47):
could be dead wrong, and if you can say to me, hey, Dan,
six months ago there was a piece in the Boston
Globe and he was all in on you know, transgender
athletes participating in high school athletics.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Yeah, then I don't. I'm not saying I have specific facts.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But maybe someone else does. Someone else does it with
support what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
It's it's just, you know, as we're using analogy in sports,
the Monday Morning quarterback. He's been in office for quite
a while, and I have no I've only met the
man once in my life at a convention in Worcester,
but I would just say that the timing of this
of him saying this, I think it doesn't pass the
small test, but I'll let you go to.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The Thanks Anthony, I appreciate you call. Have a great
weekend and joy veterans say weekend, Thanks Anthony. Let me
go next, Mark and Alston Market next on nightside.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
I got I. I think there's a lot of truth
in what Congressman Malton has been saying. You know that
I work at a supermarket and h we wind up
spending a lot of our time returning items to the
(23:00):
else because the customers are so hard pressed financially that
they have to leave them at the cash register.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yep, I've done that myself. To be honest with you,
there have been there's some items I think it was
on sale and uh, you know, I I'm my pride
does doesn't get in the way when I think I'm
paying too much for an item. So believe me, I've
done that myself, Mark.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
And I think that to regain traction, the National Democratic
Party has to rededicate itself to what are known as
kitchen chable issues like making college more affordable.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think I think those are the areas where the
Democrats always do well.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Couldn't agree with you more, but I I'd be the
amount of fundraising appeals I get in my mailbox is
just so over the top. I mean, it can be
(24:09):
very difficult to communicate to the Democratic Party establishment that
you don't have a lot of money to give. What
you can give is some volunteer time.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But well, that's a good point too, Mark, I mean,
if they're re lying. Look, I believe that the Harris
campaign spent one point two billion dollars. Some it just
they had more money than Donald Trump. I mean, it
wasn't money. It wasn't like Trump. The Republicans outspeed the Democrats.
The point you're making is an excellent point, Mark. The
Democrats had they were a wash in money. But what
(24:45):
message did they use that money to deliver? That's the
question that Moulton's raising. You've hit the nail right on
the head. Mark. I got to keep running here because
they got tack lines. Outstanding phone call tonight, Mark, I
mean that you were right on the money tonight. Thank
you so much, have a great night, good night. There
we goes Okay, Tom, Hey, Tom, welcome back, Tom and
(25:07):
the Philippines go right ahead, Tom.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
Yeah, you know I used to be a staunch Democrat.
I'm aware of being in a labor being in a
labor union. I went to the convention in eighty eight
as a delegate. First time I ever ran Ward ten mission. Hell,
first time I ever ran for to be a delegate
in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So there was we're a delegate a delegate for Doucacas,
I assume in eighty eight or was at the state.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Convention convention field.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's okay, Rob, you fix Tom's line for me, Rob, okay,
because just let him know that that was a horrible connection.
Let me go to Patrick in the district of Columbia
where all the action is Patrick, how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Well, the action is there right. Well, we had this election, right,
so it was safe for me to come out from
underneath the bed.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So I'm gonna have that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
And from what I experience in my in my world
and how I do things, is are people who are
working people, and they have businesses, and they work for companies,
and they have goods and services that are produced and transferred,
and there's all sorts of things that that different people
do a lot of different things. They just can't afford
(26:25):
to pay for what the Democrats want because it's not
what they want, and they don't want to pay for
something that they don't want, not just once, they don't
want to do it twice. And I think that's how
we came to Donald Trump. We paid for it. We're
paying for it. Like in Massachusetts with the with the immigrants, right,
(26:47):
you know you keep bringing them in here, you're helping
the pay.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, in Massachusetts we're now two billion dollars in the
hole because of the migration. Now, I know a lot
of people are going to say, well, that's because Governor
Abbott has sent them out of Texas. Well, did you
expect Texas was going to keep them there? By the way,
I think that today I heard somewhere that Mayor Adams
in New York has decided to stop giving migrants EBT cards.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
We can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, I understand that thinking. But yeah, matter of fact,
let me double check that before. Let me see. By
the way, one of the things you're concerned about is
civil defense, yes, and how we are falling behind here
we should be. Is either party addressing those concerns that
you have.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
No, it is a taboo term here in Washington, D C.
And while I got my eye on the clock real quick,
while you're looking at that. If you remember when Trump
went to Capitol Hill to stop the the the border bill,
let me just call it the border bill, right, Okay,
went in there. You know, now I'm a bad build
and then we're not going to do it. We're not
going to do it. Okay. If that bill would have
(28:02):
gone through the Department of Homeland Security would have benefited
from that totally, would you agree there.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And so forth?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
And therefore it would go directly to the Department of
Big Titles and he'll get nothing but a bunch of
big titles and you're not going to get anything done.
The reason why we don't say civil defense is because
civil defense is civilians and you don't get registered with
the Department of Big Titles. You are a citizen doing
your citizenship, Okay, and that's that's it. That's it in
(28:33):
a nutshell.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah. By the way, I've just checked out. Mayor Adams
in New York has apparently ended the EBT cards or
you know, food stamp programs for migrants. So that's an
effort that on his part. He's saying, it's basically it's uh,
it's it's it's killing New York City. So that's a
(28:58):
big step. I mean, it's interesting because Donald Trump gets elected,
he hasn't been sworn into office yet. Uh and already
Mayor Adams has has has has has reversed himself. It
was only a few months ago that Adams decided to
make EBT cards available to migrants, and I think they would.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Be given three reaching into our back pockets, they can't.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Again, it's three hundred and fifty dollars a week. Now.
I don't know if that was for a family of four.
I'll have to do some work on this over the weekend.
But and I think we do the same thing, by
the way here in Massachusetts. That's a big part of
it as well. So yeah, we're very generous people. We're
very generous people. Patrick.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Now we pay for once, we pay for once, but
now you're making us pay for it twice, and you
keep exasperating the problem. That's why we'd yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, sir Patrick has always I appreciated hearing from you.
Have a great weekend. Okay, stay safe down in there
in in DC.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I will I'll keep my doors locked. Well.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, the other thing too is I think maybe maybe
maybe this inauguration will will be less controversial, and the
run up to the inauguration will be less controversial than
it was four years ago, because.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
It has to, because he won the popular vote.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right, yeah, and I you know again, I think that
that number is still holding. I'll check that during the
news as well. Patrick, Thank you, sir, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Good night. Let me get one more in here if
I can. Before we got to we have to take
a break. All of a sudden, we lost Tom in
the Philippines. If Tom wants to call back, we'll put
him to the head of the line, Rob. If Tom's
still listening, the lines that are opened six one, seven, nine, three,
one ten thirty or six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty. Mike and Beverley, Mike next on nightside.
Speaker 10 (30:45):
Go right ahead, Hey, can you hand men?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I can hear you find sir, Go right ahead. So, yeah,
you're you're in congressman, You're in Molten's district, right if
if I'm not mistaken, yes.
Speaker 11 (30:58):
Sir, I am, okay, I'll never even once.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
Okay, you never done in my area.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
But I know I heard about the thing today and
heard the city Salem councilor says that, uh, I wanted
he should fight, get fired and resign.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
Like the Democratic Party is out of their mind. Yeah, yes,
he spoke out for the situation.
Speaker 12 (31:21):
But Kamala Harris from all of that situations when they
years ago, before she even became a Joe Biden uh
in California, you know, And that's.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
What having that situation. As far as the Erica Adams
saying yes he did, he kept the money out. Todaymar
Healley's not gonna win. Like, I don't understand the Democratic Party.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
They're out of their mind. And why are they like
already on a ramp page to fight Trump on They
lost their election over a final me uh, the border
and crime. That's why they lost election.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Now, I would agree with I would agree with you
and that. I'm certainly we could find some polls which
would support that. But that's a pretty good trifecta the economy, immigration,
and crime. And I also think that that on some
of the issues that the Democrats were talking about. Democracy,
I don't think, according to the polls, did much for
the Democrats. And I don't know that abortion paid off
(32:20):
the political dividends that the Democrats had hoped for so.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
I know, because they were pushing that area. Dan, that's
all I have to do. Because she said on that
eleven o'clock shows it was there something that she could
do differently, she says, no, she was done after that.
What she said on that view show once she said
that it was.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
A yeah, well I I.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Think what she said was there's there's nothing that comes
to mind, and that became sort of a metaphor for
the campaign, which was which was tough. Mike. I hate
to do this to you, but I gotta go. Well,
I'm past my break. I took you because it once
you have to wait through the commercials, but I got
commercials coming up, and without commercials, you and I don't
(33:05):
get a chance to talk on the radio, my friend,
So thanks for the call. I think you made your
points well and we will talk next week.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Okay, try and get Momory Haley.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
I like to talk to her.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh, I'm sure she'd love to talk to you. Mike. Yeah, okay,
you got it right night. Good night. You've got a
couple of lines here, let's fill them up. We're gonna
be done at eleven at eleven o'clock, As I told you,
(33:35):
We're going to go to the twentieth hour and we
will take a break from politics, and we will in
the twentieth hour tonight ask you to remember a member
of your family, a member of your community, member of
your extended family who served in the military. And they
do not have to have been you know, a war hero,
(33:55):
or just anyone who served. I think it's Veterans Day
and it is the day we honor veterans. On Monday.
I will not be on the air until Monday night,
so let's do that tonight. I think there couldn't be
a more appropriate way to end the week, particularly a
week in which we just held an election, an extraordinary
moment in time every four years, it's all. It's amazing
(34:19):
to me how well and how how how easily this
election went. I was fearful that we were going to
end up with a very close election and that we
would have people on both sides angry. It seems to
me like people on both sides are resigned to it.
Certainly the Republicans are happy. I know the Democrats are frustrated.
(34:39):
That's why we're talking about Seth Moulton's comments. If you'd
like to chime in on whether you agree or disagree
with Seth Moulton doesn't matter whether a Republican Democrat are independent.
Got a couple of lines six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty or six months seven nine three one ten thirty.
Coming right back on Night's Side after this brief break.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Light Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
All right, let's go to Vinnie in Randall. Vinnie next
on NIGHTSID.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Go right ahead, h hi Yan, thanks for taking my call.
It's my first time calling you.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Give you a quick run of applause in my VIC
studio audience here is always welcome very much.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
That's why I said it was first time, so I
could hear the applause. I need something.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Nothing wrong with that at this point? What you thought?
Speaker 6 (35:27):
I was thinking about, you know, Seth Moulden and the
transgender stuff. And my thought is, you know, I don't
know what we should do. I don't know how we
should handle people with transgender But to me, what's missing
is we're not talking to transgender people and asking like what.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Do you need? You know, having men people women with
male bodies playing against women doesn't sound fair to me,
but to say, well, you can't do that, so therefore
your only option is to be the other thing, when
that's not what they are either. You know, a transgender
woman is not a man, so to put them up
against other men isn't fair either. What we need is
(36:08):
to talk to the transgender people and say how can
we help? What can we do? And that's and that
carries over into everything in politics today, where we're so polarized.
Everybody has absolute positions one side.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Of the other. People don't want to talk. What we
need is just the opposite. We need people who are
going to be we have to be epathetic and compassionate
to each other and say, you know, how do we
help Texas?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Let me ask you. Let me ask you this. Okay,
so you you talk to Let us say whether it's
the parents of a transgender child or a transgender child.
Let's say who's fifteen or sixteen years old? And the
transgender child says, okay, I was born male, but I
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consider myself female, and I'm pretty good at soccer, and
I don't want to play on the boys team because
I consider myself female and I want to be able
to play high school soccer or college soccer on the
girls team, and whether the sport is lacrosse or swimming
or whatever. How conversely, on the other side of the room,
(37:19):
you have a girl woman, a person's born born female
and consumemself considers themselves a girl.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And there's only so many players that can make the team.
There's only so many players that are gonna get a
lot of playing time or whatever. So you have kind
of what a law school professor of mine, Alfred Weisel,
refers to as an irreconcilable conflict. It's not like you
(37:47):
can you know, as they say, you know, King Solomon
split the baby, and then the real mother says, no,
don't split the baby. Now you know the real mother
is what do you do? I mean if you say
to the transgender, yeah, you could play, and then that
impacts someone.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Who's well yesing. But I think what you say is
to the transgender, who is you know, a woman in
a man's body. You have to say to them, you've
got a male body, and it isn't fair to put
you up against people who have female bodies. So what
can we do instead? Now I don't know the answer, though.
My suspicion is what we need is to consider respecting
(38:27):
them and then maybe creating transgender leagues in high school
so that people who are one that has.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Been has been, that has been suggested as a matter
of fact. Uh, the way that we could do that, okay?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And I know, and you're a rational guy here, Vinie,
And and I like your your your thoughts. There are
some sports in some schools that do not have enough athletes.
And I'll use an example of us. Let's say a
couple of school systems that they want to have a
hockey team. And in order to have a hockey team,
you need let's say eighteen players because it's an exhausting,
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you know, sport, and you you only have eight or
nine players at one school and eight or nine players
at another. And what you do is you combine those
schools and you have, you know, a hockey team of
players from two schools. That way, eighteen kids are accommodated
in the sport they want to play.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yes, So that's thinking outside the box. Yeah, that's what
you do. Yeah, exactly, it sounds I mean, well, I
went to high school where it was Coyo High School
in Tonton. It's Coyo Cassidy. Now I guess, but it
was Coil back in my day, and we were a
small school. You know, we just barely got enough people
to play, you know, in football or whatever. But we
managed to get enough.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
But again, they say, particularly particularly on some if, for example,
that you've got a few kids who want to play
on a golf team, and you know enough kids for
a real golf team, you combine a couple of schools
exactly you have.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Definitely, Vinny, I think it's a wonderful idea, too great.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, it was your idea. I'm only tagging along with it.
That's a great idea, Vinnie. Thank you very much. We'll
talk much more about this, I'm sure in the weeks
and months ahead. I suspect great.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Thanks. Thanks such to night.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
You're welcome. Thank you, Vinnie. Okay, we get back. It'll
be the twentieth hour. And by the way, I do
think that Republicans will hold the House. And my prediction
on that I'm just doing some math here is I
think they'll hold the House with about two hundred and
twenty two or two hundred and twenty three seats to
two hundred and twelve two hundred and thirteen for the Democrats.
There will be not much of a change. The Republicans
(40:36):
might pick up a couple of seats, but that's it.
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