March 28, 2025 • 39 mins
Is napping good or bad for your brain? Are there any health risks of prolonged napping? Are you struggling to achieve good quality sleep? Dr. Patrick Porter, brain health and neuroplasticity expert, joined us to answer your questions about sleep and give tips and advice on how to improve sleep and achieve that optimal level of sleep for restoration.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, welcome back a little bit after ten o'clock.
Thanks very much, Al Griffith. As we had as a
guest a couple of weeks ago during the eight o'clock hour,
my guest was going to join us tonight, doctor Patrick Porter.
He's a brain health and neuroplasticity expert. So doctor Porter,
welcome back to Night's Side. And I know we're going
(00:28):
to talk about sleep and sleep solutions, and then maybe
some people who want to get some information from you,
and they're welcome to call us at six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. First of all, welcome back to Night's Side.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How are you tonight, sir.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm doing great. Thanks hearing me, Dan, great to be better.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Welcome and explain to me.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What is a brain health and neuroplasticity expert. I think
I know what is meant by that, but I'd love
to make sure that I really do know what is
meant by that.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah. Well, I've spent my career here, especially in the
last fifteen years, of showing that you can your brain
at any age, and you can increase its function by
using different technologies and different lifestyle practices. And so they've
kind of coined that neuroplasticity. So I guess I'm an
expert at that. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So you dropped out of me there for a second
and you said you could do something with your brain
at any age, and we missed what it was you
could do with your brain at any age?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, what what we find? Maybe I have to turn
up my WiFi and my phone or something.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
If you're having trouble hearing us, Rob, why don't you
jump on with him and make sure that he's he's okay.
We're talking with doctor Patrick Porter, and what we're doing
is we're talking essentially about your sleep and how you
can get a good night's rest and how you can
maximum as your sleep and how much sleep you need
depending upon what stage of life you find yourself. Uh,
(02:07):
doctor Porter, I think I got you back. I think
Rob has cleaned things up for.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Go right ahead, Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Go sure.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So what you started off with a comment about something
about how you could fix your brain at any age,
and I missed what the verb was.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So if you could just repeat that for us.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, you can. You can with lifestyle changes and also technology,
you can increase your brain function. You don't have to
let your brain just kind of wither away as we age.
A lot of people think that as we age, we're
supposed to lose our lose our memories, and have dysfunction
as we age and lose our balance and distibutor system.
But the truth is that there are things you can
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do in your life that are very simple changes that
if you start doing them early enough, you can have
a great memory, great great function to the day you
pass away.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay, so there's no reason let's talk about those because
I'm sure you've got the attention of a lot of
people on that. What can people do at what age
do they need to start to do some of these
things to make sure that age does not adversely impact
their memory or their balance, which I think most people
as they get older assume that's just part of the
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aging process.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, first of all, let me just address the balance thing,
because we've proven that it's not about muscles in your balance,
it's about your brain function. There's a brain wave called
SMR between our awaking brain and like our creative brain
is called the alpha brain. There's a brain wave called
SMR sensory motorithm, and that's the one that atrophies as
we age, and so it's when we lose that we
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lose our ability to balance. So we've proven that by
training that brain wave by using tools like light, sound,
and vibration like we do at brain Tap, and those
are three different technologies you can use. But the main
thing that I think people are missing, there's two factors
that you can start doing at any age that you
need to start doing it, because there's never an age
too early to start working on your brain. So number
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one is drink half your body's weight and ounces of
water and get what they call like Celtic salts. That
it's not table salt. It's actually when you see this,
this salt has twelve minerals in it. Most people are
demineralized and the brain needs these minerals to process. So
if you just put a little pinch of the salt
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in your water, and you should do it with every
glass of water you have, and so it's almost like
drinking it's not quite like drinking salt water, but your
brain needs those minerals.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So where do they get Celtic salt. Celtic is spelled
like Celtic, like celtic.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Okay, where do they get it?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You can get it. Any grocery store will have it,
and usually you have to grind it. You know, it'll
come with a grinder. And it's important that you get
that salt or what if you might find something that
says full full full mineralized salt. But that's the easiest
one you can find out there. And as you can
get it at any grocery store. And you put a
little bit of that in your water and drink. So
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let's say you weigh one hundred and twenty pounds. You're
going to drink sixty ounces of water a day, and
you want to drink it throughout the day, and you
want to stop drinking that water at least two hours
before bedtime. Just water, right, Yeah, if you drink anything else.
For instance, I give you an idea. If you drink
a cup of coffee that's eight ounces, you actually need
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to drink three more glasses of water to offset the
dehydration that happened from that cup of coffee. Really, the
same thing is true if you drink a soda pop.
So Let's say you drink sixty ounces of soda, you
need three times that amount of water to regain the
water you lost. Most people are dehydrated. There's actually a
really good book out called Your Money. Your Body's mini
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cries for water, and most people don't realize how dehydrated
they are. And this is one of the things they're
looking at now in the medical field because a lot
of people there cells are not absorbing the water because
they don't have the minerals. You need to think of
it like a magnet in order to attract the iron fibers.
We need the magnetic attraction we need. We need the
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minerals in our cells to attract the water into the cell.
So it actually works. A lot of people drink water,
but then they just eliminate it out. They're not really
getting the benefit of the water. That's why you want
to put the mineralize. You want to mineralize that water
so your body has the magnetic charge to absorb that
water and give you the nutrients that that water is
supposed to provide you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And again you're suggesting celtic salt, which you can buy
at a grocery store, or if you confind that what
was the second suggestion.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
There's a salt called pull Spectrum salt. But I mean
they can always go online and find it, you know,
but I think every grocery store. You'll find it anywhere
in the Boston area grocery store that's worth its salt, right.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Okay, so let me come back to the water intake.
A lot of people will will be intimidated by that
because let's say that you are a normal sized male
and you weigh somewhere around one hundred and eighty pounds. Okay,
a woman could weigh, you know, one hundred and fifty
pounds pretty easily. But if you're a mail and your
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weigh one hundred eighty pounds, you got to drink ninety
ounces of water a day.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's well, that's what I recommend. Yeah, there's an easy
way to do that though. What you do is every
time you eliminate, before you go back to work, before
you go back to whatever you're doing, drink ten ounces
of water.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, Okay, no, I go.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah. Then what you'll find is, and some people will
actually put posted notes at the door just whenever, if
you can just get in the habit when you eliminate. Yeah,
you need to replenish, So think of it. You know,
you're you're dumping the waste, you bring in more to
process and you know, and maybe you can't drink that
much at first, but a little bit of something's better
than hold out of nothing. And if you're drinking, no.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That's fair, that's that's fair.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Now again we're talking here primarily about about you know,
brain health and all of that. Let's assume someone is
in their sixties or seventies and they have noticed that
maybe their memory is slipping.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
But they say, well, you know, that's what's what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Every once in a while you lose your keys or
you can't find your glasses or something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Is it still.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Advised that that someone who is you know, that far
along or is this something that that you have to
start when you're in your thirties and and stay ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Of the curve.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Well, it's always better to start early. But any age
you want to start doing this, because you're the body
you're existing in right now, yep is no more than
two years old. So we sell and your body has
been replaced, the bones, the cells, I mean, some sub
parts of your body might take seven years. But most
of your I'd say ninety eight percent of your body
has changed over the last two years. Now, what's the
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problem is just like making a copy back if you
remember the old cassettes, or you'd make a copy of
cassette from a cassette, it doesn't make it doesn't replicate
so well. So if you don't have if your body
isn't highly charged with energy, and like when we're young,
what I think we talked about it on the show.
When we're young, our brain is really high voltage. We
have about eighteen point one volts. As we age, that
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voltage goes down. If that when we're twenty seven, it
becomes about ten point one and remains there until we
start to diminish and decline. And we find that when
that brain voltage goes below six, people will start to
experience dementia. When it goes below four, they start to
have Alzheimer's. So we need to increase that energy. So
think of your body like a battery.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Every time you good analogy. So let me ask you,
how do you how do do you find out what
the voltage of your brain is. I go to my
doctor every year and they do blood work and they
do tests and all of that, But how do you
find out and does the voltage in people's brains? Does
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that differ between men and women, between people who weigh
two hundred and fifty pounds and people weigh hundred and
fifty pounds or is it all just how do you
determine how much vaulted is in the brain? Is the
test that can be done?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well? Yeah, there is what they call EEG electrosophograph. Now
they have technology we use at our research lab. We
use a product called the Lobby and basically it's a
skull cap that you put on and it measures not
only brain voltage, but it measures different brain waves and
things of that. They call it brain mapping. So there's
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probably a hundred places in Boston that do it. You know,
if you call them up and say, hey, I want
to get a brain map and I want to find
out what my brain voltage is. I think I think
within ten years it will be as common as doing
a blood test because they're finding out so many things
about the brain that early detection is better, right, just
like everything else.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Sure, Okay, so let's just someone has a brain voltage
test and the doctor says, hey, guess what your brain
voltage at your age?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know it, you know it should be.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Somewhere in the range of ten and it's seven ken.
What can be done to reverse that decline?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Well, there's quite a few things you can do. Number
one is you can change your diet. You can put
get a little bit more fats and get that water
and take up you need essential fats. So one of
the things you can do, even starting today, even if
you don't know your voltage is down, is the simplest
thing is to start adding in omega threes, like having
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like olive oil. You can have at least if you
just state one tablespoon of olive oil a day, they
say you're tan of Alzheimer's just went down forty percent. Wow,
So you and you can put that on your salads
or you can just eat it with a spoon. You know,
but there's and you can have avocados. You know, there's
also instead of in real butter, not margarine, real butter.
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And you can and you when you think about coconut oil,
get rid of the seed oils. Feat oils they now
say are as bad as sugar for the brain. Though
you want to get you want to minimize the sugar
and take as much as you can for the brain.
And then those are things you can do just when
you're shopping. Then you can also do we we, of course,
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what we do at brain Tap. We did a study
in Florida. In the book is called Saving Your Brain.
It was by doctor Kelly Miller. He has a chapter
in this says brain Tap to the rescue because what
we do is we bring light energy into the brain.
And doctor Cousins about twenty years ago said the most
underprescribed nutrient on Earth is light. So you know, when
you're living up north and I heard the I'm down
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here in the south out so we have a lot
more sunlight. You know, there's something called seasonal effective disorder.
Of course, because the seasonal effective disorder is like from
the north. I grew up in Michigan, so people would
get depressed in the winter.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh yeah, we're very, very familiar with that. As a
matter of fact, there's some well known people who have
been impacted about that. Doctor parter Port, I got to
just take a break here. It's amazing the amount of
information that you have shared with us in the first
fifteen minutes here. I want to cycle back to sleep questions.
I know that I have audience members who tell me
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they aren't able to establish a good sleep pattern. I have.
I guess I'm the exception. I can sleep at the
drop of a hat. But I also want to talk
to you about naps. Are naps good for you or
bad for you? Is there such a thing as too
much napping? We'll get to all of this, I promise,
(13:57):
And I also want to get people an opportunity. When
we talked a couple of weeks ago, we were in
that short segment for about ten minutes or so that
we did. We do not take phone calls during the
eight o'clock hours, So people tonight, if you want to
talk with doctor Porter and ask a question about your
sleep pattern, you got to dial now six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six months seven nine, three one ten thirty.
(14:19):
I know we talked a lot of politics, a lot
of national politics during the last week or so. Uh,
And this is a Friday night. We're trying to get
you information that can help you.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
UH.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And if you've listened to what he said in the
first fifteen minutes, has been a tremendous amount of information
that should be able to help you. We'll take a
quick break. Coming back on night Side, you have the
number six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or
six months seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Bzy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
My guess is doctor Patrick Porter. Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
He obviously has a lot of great information here.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Let's let's keep rolling with this.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
We started that whole conversation just talking about brain health
and neuroplasticity, but I also want to talk about sleep patterns.
And I have, you know, listeners who will tell me
that they can't sleep, or when they sleep, they sleep
different hours. What is the key to getting a regular
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and a predictable good night's sleep or is there a
specific key, And maybe it differs from people to people.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
If it does differ from people to people, but I
think that what you do the hours leading up to
sleep are very important, Like especially two to three hours
before sleep, go around the house turning off lights, because
we're not Our brain needs to know it's time for sleep.
And if the house is bright in your Let's say
you're watching television and you're watching some show that's that's
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an adjutant, you know, maybe it's a mystery show that's
getting brain to think too much. You want to do
things that are pretty much mindless, you know, and they
do things that are or read you know, things like that.
If you're having problems sleeping, there's a few rules. One
is don't eat any solid food three to four hours
before bad because your body can't sleep and digest at
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the same time. So some people can do it fine,
it just doesn't matter they eat. Now if you can't
help it. Sometimes you just have to eat and then
you go to sleep. But if you can plant it
that way and then also eliminate all liquids, And what
I should have said earlier in the show was you
could also drink herbal teas. Herbal teas can count as water.
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So if you can't drink like what I tell people
is to get like peppermint tea or something like that,
you can also do that to get the water intake
I was talking about earlier. So if people are saying
I don't think they need a little flavor to it,
you know, you can drink the herbal teas and that
will not doesn't have a diuretic effect. I'm not talking
about black teas now, I'm talking about like the herbal
kind of like peppermint tea or kind of meal tea,
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or there's also a tea called sleepy time tea. You know,
you might want to have that tea a couple hours
before bed and you'll start to calm down and then
when you're in when you're in bed, your bedroom should
just be for sleep and for whatever other recreation you
want to have in there. But it's not. It's not
a place where you should be doing your work. Like
you shouldn't bring your laptop in there. You know, don't
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confuse your brain with the bedroom being anything other than
a sanctuary for sleep. And if you can. A lot
of people will need to have like knockout curtains where
they block out all the light because sometimes just even
a little bit of light, if you're light sensitive, it
can it can stop you from getting into that deep
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circadian rhythm.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I am a huge fan of dark curtains, and I
gotta tell you, I think that for.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Me is the key.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I'm in a situation where I do a talk show
from eight to.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Midnight East Coast time. I take about an hour just
to unwind.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And one of the things that I do is we
do a little postgame show on the Internet to tell
people how the show went, which probably is not the
smartest thing for me to do personally, but I do
it because I'd like to just talk to my listeners
who want to find me on Facebook and I give
them a little recap of the show and I'll say
I'm happy with it, or we could have done better,
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and I'm pretty candid with it. But what I will do,
what I try to do is I'll try to put
the Boston Globe crossword puzzle aside and start that at
twelve thirty and it doesn't take me long. I never
complete the crossword puzzle because halfway through I can feel
my eyes are drooping and at that point I'm ready
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to go to bed.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So that's my.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
System, and it works for me. I think you got
to find a system that works for you, is really
my point.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And I assume you would agree.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
With that, Oh yes, And then what they can do
if they don't have a system right now. You can
do a breeding technique that's worked magical for my clients
over the years. And you actually just do a breeding technique.
You breath into the count of four and you breathe
out to the kind of eight and you just don't
worry about what you're thinking about. You know your day
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is going to roll through your mind. But like you're
doing the crossword puzzle is good because you're kind of
stressing your brain a little bit, but it's probably fun
for you to do it. So it's some people, if
you gave him a crossword puzzle, they would probably fall
asleep minute they took out the pen and the paper,
you know. But if you're the type of person that
does that, Like some people will do puzzles before they
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go to sleep because it's something that their brain has
to think. It has to you know, sue something creative,
but it's also logical. So the brain gets a little
bit of stress, but that's enough to eliminate the sympathetic
drive that happened every day or the stress that build
up during the day.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So this breeding technique, the stress is dress is the killer. Uh,
Doctor Patrick Porter, Doctor Porter, we got to take about
a three minute newscast. We go back on and go
to phone calls. I've got a bunch of calls in
the line, Foy, You have no idea what they want
to talk about. But that's the best part about Nightside
and I can tell from talking to you for just
a few minutes that you know your stuff and you
(20:18):
are a font of valuable information. And I really thank
you for taking the time tonight to talk to my audience.
So any question, As I've often said, there are no
questions that are dumb questions. The only dumb questions are
the questions you don't have the courage to ask. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. One line there and one line and six
one seven, nine three, one, ten thirty. We'll get it
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going with questions right after the break. Here on night Side,
my name is Dan Ray. Listening WBZ Boston ten thirty
and your AM dial. And if you're listening in some
different part of the country, which is often, let us know,
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not only in Boston, New England, but also outside New England.
Anywhere east of the Mississippi River works for us. Can
we even get listeners on the internet as far away
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as California and other places around the world. Coming back
on Nightside, It's Night Side with Dan Ray's Boston's News Radio.
My guest doctor Patrick Porter. Let's get to the phone calls. Doctor,
Let's go to Helen in Canton, Massachusetts. Helen, you were first.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
This hour with doctor Porter.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Go right ahead, Helen, Hi got the point. Thank you, Dan,
You're very welcome. Hello.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I work overnights for twenty three years now, and I'm
heading into work right now, and I don't sleep well.
I haven't slept well for twenty three years, so I
just don't know what this point. Can I do anything
to help me sleep?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What time you get off work? I'm seven in the morning.
What time you get off well?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
What did I get out of work at nine thirty
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Okay, you're a nurse.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I know I'm in vebiology, babeology.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Text in the medical field. Doctor Portego, right.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Ahead, Yeah, yeah, I think that. Yeah, you're You're definitely
out of sync with the circadian rhythms, so you're gonna
have a problem. But what you can do is you
want to maybe get some kind of music. What we
do is, of course, we use an algorithm that teaches
you to get into the state of delta, but you
can get like white noise. Have you tried that before
using that?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I use that every single time I go to bed,
so it doesn't affect my brain. I wanted to make
sure on that right.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, oh no, it's gonna it's what it does. It's
gonna block out the day. But the main thing that
I think you need to do is practice that breathing
technique that I was talking about before you go to bed. Yeah,
we need to get you into a deep state. Your
brain's going against the natural rhythm of our body. Right.
There's there's very few people that in our history and
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their ancestry, they would stay up all night. And I
know because my my family was all in the medical field.
Grandmother was a nurse, and my nurses and they would
get jacked around. You know, one week they'd be working
days and next week they'd be working nights. And this
is that good for your circadian rhythms. So the other
is that even though you're going to bed, do you
go right to bed or do you do something else
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before you go to bed In the.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Morning, sometimes I do other stuff and then I go
to bed around two or three o'clock and then I
can't sleep well.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
At all them. But if I go to.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Bed, usually right after work, I take a quick shot.
When I go to bed, usually I take trasiton. They
doctor recommend trasiton, So I take trasiton to go to
sleep and it actually does help.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean those kind of things will help, But
I think the main thing is is, just like I
was saying earlier in the show, you want to not
eat anything within four hours of going to sleep. That's
what I really suggest.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Sure I do that. I'm really bad at that, So
I have to stop doing that.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yes, and then also with the water, and then practice
that breeding technique, and then make your room as dark
as possible. You're we're going to have to trick your
body into thinking it's midnight instead of you know, nine
thirty ten Oclos morning. In many the reality, The reality
is it's not about time in bed. Remember that it's
about getting If you get a sleep watch or way
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to measure your sleep, if you can start getting an
hour of deep sleep, which we we treat people to do.
You can get some tips at brain tap dot com
that can teach you how to do that, because we
have an app that actually will put you to sleep
at any time in the day. We work at coal
miners and we showed that that's possible. But you'll need
you'll need to get as quickly as possible into the
first level of sleep, and then if we can get
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you an hour of deep sleep, you're going to find
that you're going to wake up, recharge, even if you
only sleep four and a half five hours.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh okay, because I do. Look at I said that,
and if I say I usually sleep up, a deep
sleep is like an hour and a few minutes. So
that's not bad that I thought it was bad.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Okay, No, no, that's good. I mean if you get
two hours of rim sleep. So if it's telling you
an hour of deep sleep, two hours of rim sleep,
you're getting the sleep that you need. Now, what you
might need to do is do something to activate the
system when because your body's going to actually want to
go to sleep when you're working, so you've got to
kind of trick the brain at that point.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Okay, all right, thank.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You, Thank you, Helen, and thank you for what you do.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Thank you for what you do.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Thank you for what you do.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Thank you doctor you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Let's keep rolling here.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Six one seven, A couple of lines there at six
one seven, ed you were next one nights. I appreciate
you calling it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Go right ahead, bye.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I had two questions relating to liquids. The first is
this the temperature of the water matter, is ice water
or hot water better or worse? And the second thing
is I'm assuming you're against coffee completely, but if you
have to drink at what's the best kind to drink
and what time of day? Okay, I'll answer the first question. First.
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The water is a preference, but they find that most
people cannot tolerate ice water. It actually kills some of
the digestive that you need in the system. But if
you tolerate ice water, it's fine. Hot water with lemon
is probably the best because it's alkalizing the water, just
like the salt would do. So a lot of people
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will add like limon to their water, you know, squeeze
a slice a limon or something into it. But no
water in any form is going to be better than
no water. So I have a saying, a little bit
of something's better than a whole lot of nothing, you know,
So however you get it in and with coffee. I'm
not totally against coffee. I love coffee myself, but I
don't drink coffee first thing in the morning. When first
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thing in the morning you have something called the Cortisolt trough.
And if you need coffee first thing in the morning.
That's a sign that you have a neurological disorder because
your body is now your brain is inherently lazy. If
it can get something else to do the work for it,
it will. And what coffee does. It's spikes near perneffrin, cortisol,
and dopamine. Now, these are three things you need in
the morning to get you up out of bed, but
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your brain needs to create those. So think in terms.
You have the world's greatest pharmacy between your ears, but
you're not using that pharmacy. You're dumping coffee into it.
So what I always recommend people do is drink their coffee.
You can have You can have a cup of cups
of coffee. Just have one at ten o'clock and you
can have another one after you do your whatever you're
gonna do in the afternoon. You know you don't need to.
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If you drink more than one cup of coffee too,
you're gonna be at a deficit. I said that earlier,
because you're gonna have you're gonna be in a dehydrated state.
So I always recommend that before you drink your coffee,
you have six or eight ounces of water and then
if it's possible, after you're done drinking your coffee, you
have another six or ten glasses, you know, ounces of water.
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That way, at least you're not at a deficit. And
then what will happen is pretty soon you'll find out
you don't need as much coffee. You'll just drink coffee
because you enjoy it, not because it's still emulating you
to stay awake. Your body can stay awake as long
as it's mineralized water. You're gonna you're gonna have more
energy than you thought possible. Because the coffee is a
synthetic stimulant, it's not really doing anything for you. Your
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brain has to work twice as hard to give you
that energy. And that's why you have to chase the
coffee with another coffee maybe, or you have those downtimes
during the day after you drink coffee. Okay, great, thank
you very much.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well did you have a second question there or was
that cover of both of them?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, that was the quest. No, that's about Ed.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Good, Thank you, Ed, appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Let me get one more in here before the break.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Lee in Quincy, Massachusetts. Lee, how are you tonight, Jo,
I'm with doctor Patrick Porter. Go ahead, Lee, okay, Ted.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I just wanted to say the doctor was talking about
olive oil and avocados. I was a tour guide for
better years. I once had a doctor in my car
from China. He was eighty years old, and he wanted
me to take him to a health food store and
I did. If he bought a bottle of this EBCT oil,
and I would do it. They're pretty good and it
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sounds pretty good. I wanted his opinion on EBCT oil. Yeah,
that's very good. That's the coconut oil. So what I
was talking about. You can buy cocone oil at the
grocery store too, but MCT oil is refined. And then
a lot of people, I mean, even like Dave Affley
is really big in something called biohacking. He actually has
a whole coffee. He puts the mct coil oil in
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the coffee, so that person who's nice about coffee earlier.
A good thing you could do for your coffee to
help it work even better is put you know, real butter,
or you can put mcte oil in. It's a good
way to drink the coffee and it's there well they're dark.
To all these guys who do vocto, the Keto guy whatever.
They have something called the bulletproof Coffee. At the Boy.
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They put butter in the coffee. They put emctea oil,
you know, maybe a fake sugar. They call that a
bulletproof coffee. Yeah. Yeah, because it's gonna it's gonna activate
that fat in the coffee is going to activate the
it's gonna actually liberate fat and the cells will give
you energy. So it's a it's a really good way
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to do it. I think, yeah. Good. Can you take
it in a in a powdered form. I've always had
a liquid and I it tastes white butter. Sometimes I'll
take a table's food, but I see the sewing it
now in a powdered form. Yeah, I think the liquid
is better. But even bulletproof, the company you're talking about,
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they actually sell mct oil and bulletproof. You can find
it in the and the like the help food section
of your grocery store. It'll say bulletproof, but it will
be mct oiled. It's powder, and I I actually take
that with me when I travel, So it's okay because
it's it's easier to travel with than the liquid, but
at home, I'll use the liquid. Okay, it's good for
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the braid. Yeah, those kind of fat because there's short
team that acids. Those are omega threes, so the brain
loves those, and your brain is made up of fat
in water. So you can't really overdo those. I mean
you probably could, but I don't think anybody could eat
that much to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And did these things that both you and Lee are
talking about do they impact weight loss? Either either add
pound you're throwing some butter in your coffee, or does it.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
They'll actually have you lose weight because fat. The old
story that fat makes you fat is not true at all.
Sugar makes you fat. So the most of the don't
realize that. When you're eating seed oils, that's different. We're
talking about short chain amino acids omega threes. MCT oil
is one, olive oil is one, real butter is one,
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gee is one. There's there's there's a whole series you
know that they go online and they just say short
chain fatty acids omega threes. Those are what you eat.
Now if you're eating the complex like the seed oils
that are out there, or like vegetable oil or things
like that. Those are bad for you. They're gonna make
you fat because they're toxic to the body, and they're
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already ramcid. You know, mostly you don't realize that most
oils on the shelf are already ramcid. They're not any good.
They might taste good, but there's no value in them.
And most of the research done on things like even
canola oil. Most canola oil is garbage. They did the
studies on real con oil, but they didn't do it
on the refined As soon as you get seated up
over one hundred and sixty degrees, that oil is no
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good anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
How long did it take you to develop this compendium
of knowledge? Obviously this is something that you have studied,
I assume for a long time.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Doctor. Yeah. Well, my mother actually, when I was twelve
years old, went to a nutritionalist and found out that
we are family we shouldn't have We were brought up Catholics,
so our family we were Spazes and you found out
that we shouldn't be eating sugar and dies and we
were actually if you remember ul Gibbons, I was told
in high school that I was going to replace jul
Gibbons and grape nuts commercials. So I've been doing it
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a long time. Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, Hey Lee, great, great questions. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Okay, Dad, have a great night, good night, have a
good weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Take very quick break here you get to take a
final commercial break, and then we'll be back with a
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Speaker 1 (33:42):
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Speaker 2 (33:48):
Okay, we're gonna get more questions and comments for doctor
Patrick Porter.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Let me go to Christian in Peabody. Christian, how are
you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Doing well? Welcome?
Speaker 6 (33:59):
I say you're from all that's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'll have a question, fead, doctor Porter.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Go ahead, yep.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I take a Omega three six nine triple Omega. Is
it necessary to buy all three? Or is the Omega
three the one you need to focus on.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But if you're getting, if you're feeling energized and it's
working for you, then you know, I'd say it's a
personal preference. You know, the the the others, the three
will make the sixes and nine that your body needs.
And sometimes yeah, yes, that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Okay, no, because sometimes it's about product being sold instead
of what you really need. Yeah, but anyway, this is
not a fish oil. It's some flat seeds and staff
flower and.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Olive oil, and so used to that part.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
The other thing is, well, go.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Ahead, I was gonna say Blackfeet oil is now they're
touting it is like the best out there right now.
And I've been I've been trying a couple of different brands,
and I've been doing getting some really good results with
our with my clients and things. So I really that
is a good ball. Okay.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
The other question I had was, I am now sixty
five years old, and because of stress, up work and
other things, I find my sleeping goally. I actually still
go to sleep at the drop of a hat. I
can set my arm in five minutes and I'll.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Pay you a dream state when when it goes off. So
that's not an issue.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
My problem is is that.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
I'm witching up every couple of hours and it's just
like what happened to my eight hours sleep solid?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Right? Well, that that diffregulated brain, you're actually going to
sleep too quickly. Think in terms of like your That's
why I say that that breathing technique, that four aid breath,
you need to unwind your body. If you go to
sleep too quickly, too, you don't go through the sleep
cycle you need, so you're dropping the want too quickly.
So so take okay, actually act like you know how
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you're getting pulled like a a maggot pulling metal or
something like that. You want to you want to feel
your body relaxed into it and release the tension in
your body. And when you release that tension in the body,
you can go through the sleep cycle and you're gonna
find you're gonna sleep longer and deeper.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Okay, Well, the reason why I say this is because
Frontilvey friendly, your mouths professional driving all over the country.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
You that's why I tried back. My body's been trained
when you need to sleep, you have a moment.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It's of course right into it. Because just that was.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
A pattern that built over the decades.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I no longer try to, but because of my situation.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
It's very successful that I find I can release distress
by going to the gym. But I really.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Needed some guidance on getting.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Something you saying you're breathing technique is anything, yeah, you
things like this.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Tom Brady is one of our he's one of our
guys with brain tap. We work with him all the time.
He already says that for every one minute of exertion,
you need two minutes of recovery. True. So even though
you're going to the gym and you're working out hard,
you're you're actually creating something called B D and S.
But if you don't take the time to relax after that,
it's almost useless. So maybe after you're done doing your
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workout and you're releasing the stress, take a moment just
to sit down and do some even just sitting in
the locker room, do do three or four minutes of
breeding just to get the body to learn how to
regulate that relaxation. Because when you're driving on the road,
your body is trained to have a high stress. That's
most people don't realize the stress that those truckers are
under are driving down the road and you get used
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to it when you're driving. But if we were to
measure your stress levels, they're crazy, They're off the chart.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, gentlemen, we're getting tied on time. Christian, I gotta
let you go. Thank you much.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We're going to try to get in here. Joy, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Christian Lil.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You called late. I can give you about a minute.
What can you do with it?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Thank you so much. What type of doctor are you?
Number one? I need that. Number two. If someone is
an anti coagulant and have to watch their fat content,
can they take coconuts? Because when you read they said
it's okay and it's not okay. And also what type
of butter is real butters? What is your brand name?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Real?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Quickly?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Doctor Lil obviously has not heard the entire rob give
her a quick What type of doctor?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Then?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
If you can answer those questions quickly, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah, I'm a I'm a psychologist by name, by by training,
but I've been doing a lot with brain work. But
I would say is any water is good, but felt
salt water is best, and I would check with your
doctor on the essential fats. Usually they're not going to
be a problem. But if you're working with a doctor
right now, I don't want to do counter to his
advice or her advice. So that's one of those things
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that it should not hurt you because it's a natural
thing that our body needs.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Well, I wish it called early, but I'm flat out
of time. Thank you so much, doctor Porter. Thank you
very much. How can folks either follow you, get in
touch with you, read something I've written?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
What could you leave with us?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah? They can get some free advice over at braintap
dot com or go to doctor Drpatrickporter dot com and
they can see on my social media. I have a
lot of free videos there is.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
It brain tap? Is that what it is? Brain tap
dot com?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, all right, that's great, doctor, Thank you so much
for your time tonight. Maybe we'll do something again a
little bit later on during the year. I thought it
was a fascinating hour.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
All right, thank you, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Let me thank you very much. Great tonight, that's for sure.
We're coming back for the twentieth and final hour of
the week. I'm not sure we're gonna do we'll do something.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
It's fun. I promise coming back on night's side
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, welcome back a little bit after ten o'clock.
Thanks very much, Al Griffith. As we had as a
guest a couple of weeks ago during the eight o'clock hour,
my guest was going to join us tonight, doctor Patrick Porter.
He's a brain health and neuroplasticity expert. So doctor Porter,
welcome back to Night's Side. And I know we're going
(00:28):
to talk about sleep and sleep solutions, and then maybe
some people who want to get some information from you,
and they're welcome to call us at six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. First of all, welcome back to Night's Side.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How are you tonight, sir.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm doing great. Thanks hearing me, Dan, great to be better.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Welcome and explain to me.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What is a brain health and neuroplasticity expert. I think
I know what is meant by that, but I'd love
to make sure that I really do know what is
meant by that.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah. Well, I've spent my career here, especially in the
last fifteen years, of showing that you can your brain
at any age, and you can increase its function by
using different technologies and different lifestyle practices. And so they've
kind of coined that neuroplasticity. So I guess I'm an
expert at that. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So you dropped out of me there for a second
and you said you could do something with your brain
at any age, and we missed what it was you
could do with your brain at any age?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, what what we find? Maybe I have to turn
up my WiFi and my phone or something.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
If you're having trouble hearing us, Rob, why don't you
jump on with him and make sure that he's he's okay.
We're talking with doctor Patrick Porter, and what we're doing
is we're talking essentially about your sleep and how you
can get a good night's rest and how you can
maximum as your sleep and how much sleep you need
depending upon what stage of life you find yourself. Uh,
(02:07):
doctor Porter, I think I got you back. I think
Rob has cleaned things up for.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Go right ahead, Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Go sure.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So what you started off with a comment about something
about how you could fix your brain at any age,
and I missed what the verb was.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So if you could just repeat that for us.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, you can. You can with lifestyle changes and also technology,
you can increase your brain function. You don't have to
let your brain just kind of wither away as we age.
A lot of people think that as we age, we're
supposed to lose our lose our memories, and have dysfunction
as we age and lose our balance and distibutor system.
But the truth is that there are things you can
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do in your life that are very simple changes that
if you start doing them early enough, you can have
a great memory, great great function to the day you
pass away.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay, so there's no reason let's talk about those because
I'm sure you've got the attention of a lot of
people on that. What can people do at what age
do they need to start to do some of these
things to make sure that age does not adversely impact
their memory or their balance, which I think most people
as they get older assume that's just part of the
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aging process.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, first of all, let me just address the balance thing,
because we've proven that it's not about muscles in your balance,
it's about your brain function. There's a brain wave called
SMR between our awaking brain and like our creative brain
is called the alpha brain. There's a brain wave called
SMR sensory motorithm, and that's the one that atrophies as
we age, and so it's when we lose that we
(03:50):
lose our ability to balance. So we've proven that by
training that brain wave by using tools like light, sound,
and vibration like we do at brain Tap, and those
are three different technologies you can use. But the main
thing that I think people are missing, there's two factors
that you can start doing at any age that you
need to start doing it, because there's never an age
too early to start working on your brain. So number
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one is drink half your body's weight and ounces of
water and get what they call like Celtic salts. That
it's not table salt. It's actually when you see this,
this salt has twelve minerals in it. Most people are
demineralized and the brain needs these minerals to process. So
if you just put a little pinch of the salt
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in your water, and you should do it with every
glass of water you have, and so it's almost like
drinking it's not quite like drinking salt water, but your
brain needs those minerals.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So where do they get Celtic salt. Celtic is spelled
like Celtic, like celtic.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Okay, where do they get it?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You can get it. Any grocery store will have it,
and usually you have to grind it. You know, it'll
come with a grinder. And it's important that you get
that salt or what if you might find something that
says full full full mineralized salt. But that's the easiest
one you can find out there. And as you can
get it at any grocery store. And you put a
little bit of that in your water and drink. So
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let's say you weigh one hundred and twenty pounds. You're
going to drink sixty ounces of water a day, and
you want to drink it throughout the day, and you
want to stop drinking that water at least two hours
before bedtime. Just water, right, Yeah, if you drink anything else.
For instance, I give you an idea. If you drink
a cup of coffee that's eight ounces, you actually need
(05:36):
to drink three more glasses of water to offset the
dehydration that happened from that cup of coffee. Really, the
same thing is true if you drink a soda pop.
So Let's say you drink sixty ounces of soda, you
need three times that amount of water to regain the
water you lost. Most people are dehydrated. There's actually a
really good book out called Your Money. Your Body's mini
(05:57):
cries for water, and most people don't realize how dehydrated
they are. And this is one of the things they're
looking at now in the medical field because a lot
of people there cells are not absorbing the water because
they don't have the minerals. You need to think of
it like a magnet in order to attract the iron fibers.
We need the magnetic attraction we need. We need the
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minerals in our cells to attract the water into the cell.
So it actually works. A lot of people drink water,
but then they just eliminate it out. They're not really
getting the benefit of the water. That's why you want
to put the mineralize. You want to mineralize that water
so your body has the magnetic charge to absorb that
water and give you the nutrients that that water is
supposed to provide you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And again you're suggesting celtic salt, which you can buy
at a grocery store, or if you confind that what
was the second suggestion.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
There's a salt called pull Spectrum salt. But I mean
they can always go online and find it, you know,
but I think every grocery store. You'll find it anywhere
in the Boston area grocery store that's worth its salt, right.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Okay, so let me come back to the water intake.
A lot of people will will be intimidated by that
because let's say that you are a normal sized male
and you weigh somewhere around one hundred and eighty pounds. Okay,
a woman could weigh, you know, one hundred and fifty
pounds pretty easily. But if you're a mail and your
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weigh one hundred eighty pounds, you got to drink ninety
ounces of water a day.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's well, that's what I recommend. Yeah, there's an easy
way to do that though. What you do is every
time you eliminate, before you go back to work, before
you go back to whatever you're doing, drink ten ounces
of water.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, Okay, no, I go.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah. Then what you'll find is, and some people will
actually put posted notes at the door just whenever, if
you can just get in the habit when you eliminate. Yeah,
you need to replenish, So think of it. You know,
you're you're dumping the waste, you bring in more to
process and you know, and maybe you can't drink that
much at first, but a little bit of something's better
than hold out of nothing. And if you're drinking, no.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That's fair, that's that's fair.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Now again we're talking here primarily about about you know,
brain health and all of that. Let's assume someone is
in their sixties or seventies and they have noticed that
maybe their memory is slipping.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
But they say, well, you know, that's what's what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Every once in a while you lose your keys or
you can't find your glasses or something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Is it still.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Advised that that someone who is you know, that far
along or is this something that that you have to
start when you're in your thirties and and stay ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Of the curve.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Well, it's always better to start early. But any age
you want to start doing this, because you're the body
you're existing in right now, yep is no more than
two years old. So we sell and your body has
been replaced, the bones, the cells, I mean, some sub
parts of your body might take seven years. But most
of your I'd say ninety eight percent of your body
has changed over the last two years. Now, what's the
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problem is just like making a copy back if you
remember the old cassettes, or you'd make a copy of
cassette from a cassette, it doesn't make it doesn't replicate
so well. So if you don't have if your body
isn't highly charged with energy, and like when we're young,
what I think we talked about it on the show.
When we're young, our brain is really high voltage. We
have about eighteen point one volts. As we age, that
(09:35):
voltage goes down. If that when we're twenty seven, it
becomes about ten point one and remains there until we
start to diminish and decline. And we find that when
that brain voltage goes below six, people will start to
experience dementia. When it goes below four, they start to
have Alzheimer's. So we need to increase that energy. So
think of your body like a battery.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Every time you good analogy. So let me ask you,
how do you how do do you find out what
the voltage of your brain is. I go to my
doctor every year and they do blood work and they
do tests and all of that, But how do you
find out and does the voltage in people's brains? Does
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that differ between men and women, between people who weigh
two hundred and fifty pounds and people weigh hundred and
fifty pounds or is it all just how do you
determine how much vaulted is in the brain? Is the
test that can be done?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well? Yeah, there is what they call EEG electrosophograph. Now
they have technology we use at our research lab. We
use a product called the Lobby and basically it's a
skull cap that you put on and it measures not
only brain voltage, but it measures different brain waves and
things of that. They call it brain mapping. So there's
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probably a hundred places in Boston that do it. You know,
if you call them up and say, hey, I want
to get a brain map and I want to find
out what my brain voltage is. I think I think
within ten years it will be as common as doing
a blood test because they're finding out so many things
about the brain that early detection is better, right, just
like everything else.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Sure, Okay, so let's just someone has a brain voltage
test and the doctor says, hey, guess what your brain
voltage at your age?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know it, you know it should be.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Somewhere in the range of ten and it's seven ken.
What can be done to reverse that decline?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Well, there's quite a few things you can do. Number
one is you can change your diet. You can put
get a little bit more fats and get that water
and take up you need essential fats. So one of
the things you can do, even starting today, even if
you don't know your voltage is down, is the simplest
thing is to start adding in omega threes, like having
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like olive oil. You can have at least if you
just state one tablespoon of olive oil a day, they
say you're tan of Alzheimer's just went down forty percent. Wow,
So you and you can put that on your salads
or you can just eat it with a spoon. You know,
but there's and you can have avocados. You know, there's
also instead of in real butter, not margarine, real butter.
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And you can and you when you think about coconut oil,
get rid of the seed oils. Feat oils they now
say are as bad as sugar for the brain. Though
you want to get you want to minimize the sugar
and take as much as you can for the brain.
And then those are things you can do just when
you're shopping. Then you can also do we we, of course,
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what we do at brain Tap. We did a study
in Florida. In the book is called Saving Your Brain.
It was by doctor Kelly Miller. He has a chapter
in this says brain Tap to the rescue because what
we do is we bring light energy into the brain.
And doctor Cousins about twenty years ago said the most
underprescribed nutrient on Earth is light. So you know, when
you're living up north and I heard the I'm down
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here in the south out so we have a lot
more sunlight. You know, there's something called seasonal effective disorder.
Of course, because the seasonal effective disorder is like from
the north. I grew up in Michigan, so people would
get depressed in the winter.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh yeah, we're very, very familiar with that. As a
matter of fact, there's some well known people who have
been impacted about that. Doctor parter Port, I got to
just take a break here. It's amazing the amount of
information that you have shared with us in the first
fifteen minutes here. I want to cycle back to sleep questions.
I know that I have audience members who tell me
(13:35):
they aren't able to establish a good sleep pattern. I have.
I guess I'm the exception. I can sleep at the
drop of a hat. But I also want to talk
to you about naps. Are naps good for you or
bad for you? Is there such a thing as too
much napping? We'll get to all of this, I promise,
(13:57):
And I also want to get people an opportunity. When
we talked a couple of weeks ago, we were in
that short segment for about ten minutes or so that
we did. We do not take phone calls during the
eight o'clock hours, So people tonight, if you want to
talk with doctor Porter and ask a question about your
sleep pattern, you got to dial now six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six months seven nine, three one ten thirty.
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I know we talked a lot of politics, a lot
of national politics during the last week or so. Uh,
And this is a Friday night. We're trying to get
you information that can help you.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
UH.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And if you've listened to what he said in the
first fifteen minutes, has been a tremendous amount of information
that should be able to help you. We'll take a
quick break. Coming back on night Side, you have the
number six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or
six months seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Bzy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
My guess is doctor Patrick Porter. Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
He obviously has a lot of great information here.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Let's let's keep rolling with this.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
We started that whole conversation just talking about brain health
and neuroplasticity, but I also want to talk about sleep patterns.
And I have, you know, listeners who will tell me
that they can't sleep, or when they sleep, they sleep
different hours. What is the key to getting a regular
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and a predictable good night's sleep or is there a
specific key, And maybe it differs from people to people.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
If it does differ from people to people, but I
think that what you do the hours leading up to
sleep are very important, Like especially two to three hours
before sleep, go around the house turning off lights, because
we're not Our brain needs to know it's time for sleep.
And if the house is bright in your Let's say
you're watching television and you're watching some show that's that's
(15:57):
an adjutant, you know, maybe it's a mystery show that's
getting brain to think too much. You want to do
things that are pretty much mindless, you know, and they
do things that are or read you know, things like that.
If you're having problems sleeping, there's a few rules. One
is don't eat any solid food three to four hours
before bad because your body can't sleep and digest at
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the same time. So some people can do it fine,
it just doesn't matter they eat. Now if you can't
help it. Sometimes you just have to eat and then
you go to sleep. But if you can plant it
that way and then also eliminate all liquids, And what
I should have said earlier in the show was you
could also drink herbal teas. Herbal teas can count as water.
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So if you can't drink like what I tell people
is to get like peppermint tea or something like that,
you can also do that to get the water intake
I was talking about earlier. So if people are saying
I don't think they need a little flavor to it,
you know, you can drink the herbal teas and that
will not doesn't have a diuretic effect. I'm not talking
about black teas now, I'm talking about like the herbal
kind of like peppermint tea or kind of meal tea,
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or there's also a tea called sleepy time tea. You know,
you might want to have that tea a couple hours
before bed and you'll start to calm down and then
when you're in when you're in bed, your bedroom should
just be for sleep and for whatever other recreation you
want to have in there. But it's not. It's not
a place where you should be doing your work. Like
you shouldn't bring your laptop in there. You know, don't
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confuse your brain with the bedroom being anything other than
a sanctuary for sleep. And if you can. A lot
of people will need to have like knockout curtains where
they block out all the light because sometimes just even
a little bit of light, if you're light sensitive, it
can it can stop you from getting into that deep
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circadian rhythm.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I am a huge fan of dark curtains, and I
gotta tell you, I think that for.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Me is the key.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I'm in a situation where I do a talk show
from eight to.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Midnight East Coast time. I take about an hour just
to unwind.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And one of the things that I do is we
do a little postgame show on the Internet to tell
people how the show went, which probably is not the
smartest thing for me to do personally, but I do
it because I'd like to just talk to my listeners
who want to find me on Facebook and I give
them a little recap of the show and I'll say
I'm happy with it, or we could have done better,
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and I'm pretty candid with it. But what I will do,
what I try to do is I'll try to put
the Boston Globe crossword puzzle aside and start that at
twelve thirty and it doesn't take me long. I never
complete the crossword puzzle because halfway through I can feel
my eyes are drooping and at that point I'm ready
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to go to bed.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So that's my.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
System, and it works for me. I think you got
to find a system that works for you, is really
my point.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And I assume you would agree.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
With that, Oh yes, And then what they can do
if they don't have a system right now. You can
do a breeding technique that's worked magical for my clients
over the years. And you actually just do a breeding technique.
You breath into the count of four and you breathe
out to the kind of eight and you just don't
worry about what you're thinking about. You know your day
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is going to roll through your mind. But like you're
doing the crossword puzzle is good because you're kind of
stressing your brain a little bit, but it's probably fun
for you to do it. So it's some people, if
you gave him a crossword puzzle, they would probably fall
asleep minute they took out the pen and the paper,
you know. But if you're the type of person that
does that, Like some people will do puzzles before they
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go to sleep because it's something that their brain has
to think. It has to you know, sue something creative,
but it's also logical. So the brain gets a little
bit of stress, but that's enough to eliminate the sympathetic
drive that happened every day or the stress that build
up during the day.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So this breeding technique, the stress is dress is the killer. Uh,
Doctor Patrick Porter, Doctor Porter, we got to take about
a three minute newscast. We go back on and go
to phone calls. I've got a bunch of calls in
the line, Foy, You have no idea what they want
to talk about. But that's the best part about Nightside
and I can tell from talking to you for just
a few minutes that you know your stuff and you
(20:18):
are a font of valuable information. And I really thank
you for taking the time tonight to talk to my audience.
So any question, As I've often said, there are no
questions that are dumb questions. The only dumb questions are
the questions you don't have the courage to ask. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. One line there and one line and six
one seven, nine three, one, ten thirty. We'll get it
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going with questions right after the break. Here on night Side,
my name is Dan Ray. Listening WBZ Boston ten thirty
and your AM dial. And if you're listening in some
different part of the country, which is often, let us know,
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not only in Boston, New England, but also outside New England.
Anywhere east of the Mississippi River works for us. Can
we even get listeners on the internet as far away
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as California and other places around the world. Coming back
on Nightside, It's Night Side with Dan Ray's Boston's News Radio.
My guest doctor Patrick Porter. Let's get to the phone calls. Doctor,
Let's go to Helen in Canton, Massachusetts. Helen, you were first.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
This hour with doctor Porter.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Go right ahead, Helen, Hi got the point. Thank you, Dan,
You're very welcome. Hello.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I work overnights for twenty three years now, and I'm
heading into work right now, and I don't sleep well.
I haven't slept well for twenty three years, so I
just don't know what this point. Can I do anything
to help me sleep?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What time you get off work? I'm seven in the morning.
What time you get off well?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
What did I get out of work at nine thirty
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Okay, you're a nurse.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I know I'm in vebiology, babeology.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Text in the medical field. Doctor Portego, right.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Ahead, Yeah, yeah, I think that. Yeah, you're You're definitely
out of sync with the circadian rhythms, so you're gonna
have a problem. But what you can do is you
want to maybe get some kind of music. What we
do is, of course, we use an algorithm that teaches
you to get into the state of delta, but you
can get like white noise. Have you tried that before
using that?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I use that every single time I go to bed,
so it doesn't affect my brain. I wanted to make
sure on that right.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, oh no, it's gonna it's what it does. It's
gonna block out the day. But the main thing that
I think you need to do is practice that breathing
technique that I was talking about before you go to bed. Yeah,
we need to get you into a deep state. Your
brain's going against the natural rhythm of our body. Right.
There's there's very few people that in our history and
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their ancestry, they would stay up all night. And I
know because my my family was all in the medical field.
Grandmother was a nurse, and my nurses and they would
get jacked around. You know, one week they'd be working
days and next week they'd be working nights. And this
is that good for your circadian rhythms. So the other
is that even though you're going to bed, do you
go right to bed or do you do something else
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before you go to bed In the.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Morning, sometimes I do other stuff and then I go
to bed around two or three o'clock and then I
can't sleep well.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
At all them. But if I go to.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Bed, usually right after work, I take a quick shot.
When I go to bed, usually I take trasiton. They
doctor recommend trasiton, So I take trasiton to go to
sleep and it actually does help.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean those kind of things will help, But
I think the main thing is is, just like I
was saying earlier in the show, you want to not
eat anything within four hours of going to sleep. That's
what I really suggest.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Sure I do that. I'm really bad at that, So
I have to stop doing that.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yes, and then also with the water, and then practice
that breeding technique, and then make your room as dark
as possible. You're we're going to have to trick your
body into thinking it's midnight instead of you know, nine
thirty ten Oclos morning. In many the reality, The reality
is it's not about time in bed. Remember that it's
about getting If you get a sleep watch or way
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to measure your sleep, if you can start getting an
hour of deep sleep, which we we treat people to do.
You can get some tips at brain tap dot com
that can teach you how to do that, because we
have an app that actually will put you to sleep
at any time in the day. We work at coal
miners and we showed that that's possible. But you'll need
you'll need to get as quickly as possible into the
first level of sleep, and then if we can get
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you an hour of deep sleep, you're going to find
that you're going to wake up, recharge, even if you
only sleep four and a half five hours.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh okay, because I do. Look at I said that,
and if I say I usually sleep up, a deep
sleep is like an hour and a few minutes. So
that's not bad that I thought it was bad.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Okay, No, no, that's good. I mean if you get
two hours of rim sleep. So if it's telling you
an hour of deep sleep, two hours of rim sleep,
you're getting the sleep that you need. Now, what you
might need to do is do something to activate the
system when because your body's going to actually want to
go to sleep when you're working, so you've got to
kind of trick the brain at that point.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Okay, all right, thank.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You, Thank you, Helen, and thank you for what you do.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Thank you for what you do.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Thank you for what you do.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Thank you doctor you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Let's keep rolling here.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Six one seven, A couple of lines there at six
one seven, ed you were next one nights. I appreciate
you calling it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Go right ahead, bye.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I had two questions relating to liquids. The first is
this the temperature of the water matter, is ice water
or hot water better or worse? And the second thing
is I'm assuming you're against coffee completely, but if you
have to drink at what's the best kind to drink
and what time of day? Okay, I'll answer the first question. First.
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The water is a preference, but they find that most
people cannot tolerate ice water. It actually kills some of
the digestive that you need in the system. But if
you tolerate ice water, it's fine. Hot water with lemon
is probably the best because it's alkalizing the water, just
like the salt would do. So a lot of people
(26:26):
will add like limon to their water, you know, squeeze
a slice a limon or something into it. But no
water in any form is going to be better than
no water. So I have a saying, a little bit
of something's better than a whole lot of nothing, you know,
So however you get it in and with coffee. I'm
not totally against coffee. I love coffee myself, but I
don't drink coffee first thing in the morning. When first
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thing in the morning you have something called the Cortisolt trough.
And if you need coffee first thing in the morning.
That's a sign that you have a neurological disorder because
your body is now your brain is inherently lazy. If
it can get something else to do the work for it,
it will. And what coffee does. It's spikes near perneffrin, cortisol,
and dopamine. Now, these are three things you need in
the morning to get you up out of bed, but
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your brain needs to create those. So think in terms.
You have the world's greatest pharmacy between your ears, but
you're not using that pharmacy. You're dumping coffee into it.
So what I always recommend people do is drink their coffee.
You can have You can have a cup of cups
of coffee. Just have one at ten o'clock and you
can have another one after you do your whatever you're
gonna do in the afternoon. You know you don't need to.
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If you drink more than one cup of coffee too,
you're gonna be at a deficit. I said that earlier,
because you're gonna have you're gonna be in a dehydrated state.
So I always recommend that before you drink your coffee,
you have six or eight ounces of water and then
if it's possible, after you're done drinking your coffee, you
have another six or ten glasses, you know, ounces of water.
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That way, at least you're not at a deficit. And
then what will happen is pretty soon you'll find out
you don't need as much coffee. You'll just drink coffee
because you enjoy it, not because it's still emulating you
to stay awake. Your body can stay awake as long
as it's mineralized water. You're gonna you're gonna have more
energy than you thought possible. Because the coffee is a
synthetic stimulant, it's not really doing anything for you. Your
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brain has to work twice as hard to give you
that energy. And that's why you have to chase the
coffee with another coffee maybe, or you have those downtimes
during the day after you drink coffee. Okay, great, thank
you very much.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well did you have a second question there or was
that cover of both of them?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, that was the quest. No, that's about Ed.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Good, Thank you, Ed, appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Let me get one more in here before the break.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Lee in Quincy, Massachusetts. Lee, how are you tonight, Jo,
I'm with doctor Patrick Porter. Go ahead, Lee, okay, Ted.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I just wanted to say the doctor was talking about
olive oil and avocados. I was a tour guide for
better years. I once had a doctor in my car
from China. He was eighty years old, and he wanted
me to take him to a health food store and
I did. If he bought a bottle of this EBCT oil,
and I would do it. They're pretty good and it
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sounds pretty good. I wanted his opinion on EBCT oil. Yeah,
that's very good. That's the coconut oil. So what I
was talking about. You can buy cocone oil at the
grocery store too, but MCT oil is refined. And then
a lot of people, I mean, even like Dave Affley
is really big in something called biohacking. He actually has
a whole coffee. He puts the mct coil oil in
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the coffee, so that person who's nice about coffee earlier.
A good thing you could do for your coffee to
help it work even better is put you know, real butter,
or you can put mcte oil in. It's a good
way to drink the coffee and it's there well they're dark.
To all these guys who do vocto, the Keto guy whatever.
They have something called the bulletproof Coffee. At the Boy.
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They put butter in the coffee. They put emctea oil,
you know, maybe a fake sugar. They call that a
bulletproof coffee. Yeah. Yeah, because it's gonna it's gonna activate
that fat in the coffee is going to activate the
it's gonna actually liberate fat and the cells will give
you energy. So it's a it's a really good way
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to do it. I think, yeah. Good. Can you take
it in a in a powdered form. I've always had
a liquid and I it tastes white butter. Sometimes I'll
take a table's food, but I see the sewing it
now in a powdered form. Yeah, I think the liquid
is better. But even bulletproof, the company you're talking about,
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they actually sell mct oil and bulletproof. You can find
it in the and the like the help food section
of your grocery store. It'll say bulletproof, but it will
be mct oiled. It's powder, and I I actually take
that with me when I travel, So it's okay because
it's it's easier to travel with than the liquid, but
at home, I'll use the liquid. Okay, it's good for
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the braid. Yeah, those kind of fat because there's short
team that acids. Those are omega threes, so the brain
loves those, and your brain is made up of fat
in water. So you can't really overdo those. I mean
you probably could, but I don't think anybody could eat
that much to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And did these things that both you and Lee are
talking about do they impact weight loss? Either either add
pound you're throwing some butter in your coffee, or does it.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
They'll actually have you lose weight because fat. The old
story that fat makes you fat is not true at all.
Sugar makes you fat. So the most of the don't
realize that. When you're eating seed oils, that's different. We're
talking about short chain amino acids omega threes. MCT oil
is one, olive oil is one, real butter is one,
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gee is one. There's there's there's a whole series you
know that they go online and they just say short
chain fatty acids omega threes. Those are what you eat.
Now if you're eating the complex like the seed oils
that are out there, or like vegetable oil or things
like that. Those are bad for you. They're gonna make
you fat because they're toxic to the body, and they're
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already ramcid. You know, mostly you don't realize that most
oils on the shelf are already ramcid. They're not any good.
They might taste good, but there's no value in them.
And most of the research done on things like even
canola oil. Most canola oil is garbage. They did the
studies on real con oil, but they didn't do it
on the refined As soon as you get seated up
over one hundred and sixty degrees, that oil is no
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good anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
How long did it take you to develop this compendium
of knowledge? Obviously this is something that you have studied,
I assume for a long time.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Doctor. Yeah. Well, my mother actually, when I was twelve
years old, went to a nutritionalist and found out that
we are family we shouldn't have We were brought up Catholics,
so our family we were Spazes and you found out
that we shouldn't be eating sugar and dies and we
were actually if you remember ul Gibbons, I was told
in high school that I was going to replace jul
Gibbons and grape nuts commercials. So I've been doing it
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a long time. Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, Hey Lee, great, great questions. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Okay, Dad, have a great night, good night, have a
good weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
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Speaker 1 (33:42):
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Speaker 2 (33:48):
Okay, we're gonna get more questions and comments for doctor
Patrick Porter.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Let me go to Christian in Peabody. Christian, how are
you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Doing well? Welcome?
Speaker 6 (33:59):
I say you're from all that's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'll have a question, fead, doctor Porter.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Go ahead, yep.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I take a Omega three six nine triple Omega. Is
it necessary to buy all three? Or is the Omega
three the one you need to focus on.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But if you're getting, if you're feeling energized and it's
working for you, then you know, I'd say it's a
personal preference. You know, the the the others, the three
will make the sixes and nine that your body needs.
And sometimes yeah, yes, that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Okay, no, because sometimes it's about product being sold instead
of what you really need. Yeah, but anyway, this is
not a fish oil. It's some flat seeds and staff
flower and.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Olive oil, and so used to that part.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
The other thing is, well, go.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Ahead, I was gonna say Blackfeet oil is now they're
touting it is like the best out there right now.
And I've been I've been trying a couple of different brands,
and I've been doing getting some really good results with
our with my clients and things. So I really that
is a good ball. Okay.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
The other question I had was, I am now sixty
five years old, and because of stress, up work and
other things, I find my sleeping goally. I actually still
go to sleep at the drop of a hat. I
can set my arm in five minutes and I'll.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Pay you a dream state when when it goes off. So
that's not an issue.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
My problem is is that.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
I'm witching up every couple of hours and it's just
like what happened to my eight hours sleep solid?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Right? Well, that that diffregulated brain, you're actually going to
sleep too quickly. Think in terms of like your That's
why I say that that breathing technique, that four aid breath,
you need to unwind your body. If you go to
sleep too quickly, too, you don't go through the sleep
cycle you need, so you're dropping the want too quickly.
So so take okay, actually act like you know how
(35:58):
you're getting pulled like a a maggot pulling metal or
something like that. You want to you want to feel
your body relaxed into it and release the tension in
your body. And when you release that tension in the body,
you can go through the sleep cycle and you're gonna
find you're gonna sleep longer and deeper.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Okay, Well, the reason why I say this is because
Frontilvey friendly, your mouths professional driving all over the country.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
You that's why I tried back. My body's been trained
when you need to sleep, you have a moment.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It's of course right into it. Because just that was.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
A pattern that built over the decades.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I no longer try to, but because of my situation.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
It's very successful that I find I can release distress
by going to the gym. But I really.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Needed some guidance on getting.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Something you saying you're breathing technique is anything, yeah, you
things like this.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Tom Brady is one of our he's one of our
guys with brain tap. We work with him all the time.
He already says that for every one minute of exertion,
you need two minutes of recovery. True. So even though
you're going to the gym and you're working out hard,
you're you're actually creating something called B D and S.
But if you don't take the time to relax after that,
it's almost useless. So maybe after you're done doing your
(37:17):
workout and you're releasing the stress, take a moment just
to sit down and do some even just sitting in
the locker room, do do three or four minutes of
breeding just to get the body to learn how to
regulate that relaxation. Because when you're driving on the road,
your body is trained to have a high stress. That's
most people don't realize the stress that those truckers are
under are driving down the road and you get used
(37:40):
to it when you're driving. But if we were to
measure your stress levels, they're crazy, They're off the chart.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, gentlemen, we're getting tied on time. Christian, I gotta
let you go. Thank you much.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We're going to try to get in here. Joy, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Christian Lil.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You called late. I can give you about a minute.
What can you do with it?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Thank you so much. What type of doctor are you?
Number one? I need that. Number two. If someone is
an anti coagulant and have to watch their fat content,
can they take coconuts? Because when you read they said
it's okay and it's not okay. And also what type
of butter is real butters? What is your brand name?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Real?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Quickly?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Doctor Lil obviously has not heard the entire rob give
her a quick What type of doctor?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Then?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
If you can answer those questions quickly, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah, I'm a I'm a psychologist by name, by by training,
but I've been doing a lot with brain work. But
I would say is any water is good, but felt
salt water is best, and I would check with your
doctor on the essential fats. Usually they're not going to
be a problem. But if you're working with a doctor
right now, I don't want to do counter to his
advice or her advice. So that's one of those things
(38:53):
that it should not hurt you because it's a natural
thing that our body needs.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Well, I wish it called early, but I'm flat out
of time. Thank you so much, doctor Porter. Thank you
very much. How can folks either follow you, get in
touch with you, read something I've written?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
What could you leave with us?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah? They can get some free advice over at braintap
dot com or go to doctor Drpatrickporter dot com and
they can see on my social media. I have a
lot of free videos there is.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
It brain tap? Is that what it is? Brain tap
dot com?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, all right, that's great, doctor, Thank you so much
for your time tonight. Maybe we'll do something again a
little bit later on during the year. I thought it
was a fascinating hour.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
All right, thank you, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Let me thank you very much. Great tonight, that's for sure.
We're coming back for the twentieth and final hour of
the week. I'm not sure we're gonna do we'll do something.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
It's fun. I promise coming back on night's side
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