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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, I got this message from Larry on messenger and
I completely agree with him. Jeff, not for nothing, But
it sounds like Pete Hegseth was blindsided as much as
President Trump was. I agree that you can see it.
I mean you can just see it on his face.
You can see it's like somebody wrung his bells. Like
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what Goldberg was? What on the group chat? How did
that happen?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You can just see it all over him. It's like,
how does a screw up like this take place?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Listen now to Goldberg and oh man, was he milking
this yesterday? So he put his story up on The
Atlantic's website and again claiming that it was accidentally leaked
to him. Those are his words saying, I don't know.
I just I was on this group chat all of
a sudden, and they're discussing all these war plans. Now
I'm just listening and watching and reading all these text messages,
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and I'm like, I can't believe this. Listen now to Goldberg.
He started off on MSDNC with Jens Hoki roll cut
for Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'm going to be responsible here and not disclose the
things that I read and saw. I will describe them
to you the specific time of a future attack, specific targets,
including human targets meant to be killed in that attack,
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weapons systems, even weather reports. You know that the government
is I don't know why hexcept was sharing it with everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So now he's like again, you can see they're going
after hesef right, they're really going out now. You would think, well,
wouldn't they go after Mike Waltz because privately Trump is
a little bit more upset frankly at Waltz than at
He's upset it both privately, but Waltz more than heg
sat saying, well, you're the one that's set up the
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chat group, the group chat forgive me. You're the one
that said let's put all this on signal. You're I mean,
sloppy like in other words, he's not happy with Mike Waltz.
Come on, you should have known better. You put it
on a very secure government communications network, or you tell everybody,
I don't care what you're all doing, go to the
situation room, you know. But if you can't because people
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are overseas or traveling or whatever, then at least you know,
don't put it on a commercial app for god's sakes,
put it on something that's rock solid secure, or you
can discuss top secret classified information. But no, the media,
including Goldberg, they're not going after Mike Waltz. They're going
after Hegseth. Listen now to him saying, oh, it was
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the war plans. I mean it was all there, roll
cut for a Mike to.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
The precise detail and then and then a long section
on sequencing. This is going to happen, then that is
going to happen, after that happens, this happens, then that happens,
and then we go and find out if it worked.
I mean, you know, he can say that it wasn't
a war plan, but uh, it was a it was
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a minute by minute accounting of what was about to happen,
organized by Sencom Central Command, which is the military oversight
group of the Middle East, the broader Middle East. This
is their plan, and he was taking their plan and
sharing it with a bunch of civilian leaders.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So again he's going after hag Seth, and he's basically
saying he put operational security in jeopardy. He leaked classified
information unknowingly inadvertently. But that's what he did, according to
Goldberg and I want to play one more listen out
to Goldberg because this is the explosive one of the
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explosive claims he makes. He says at eleven forty four
am Saturday morning. This was on the fifteenth of March,
So what is it with ten days ago? Whatever it is,
He goes, I'm reading they're going to pound, They're going
to hit the Houthies now in just a couple of hours.
And I'll saying to myself, if I'm on this group shot,
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who the hell else is on this group shot?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Roll cut five? Mike.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's interesting because as I'm reading it at eleven forty
four am on Saturday morning, the fifteenth, seeing that the
Houthis are not going to know about this for another
couple of hours, and you know about it, well what I.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Know about it?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And I'm thinking myself, I mean, honestly, I'm thinking to myself, well,
I'm glad that Mike Waltz didn't invite a Huthie into
the group, or or a Russian spy or an adversary
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You see, I don't believe him. I don't believe them.
Does that make sense to you? Let's just play it
out You're a reporter, okay, an editor of a low
subscription but high profile never Trump, anti Trump, left wing
magazine that has been at the center of scandals and
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clashes with Trump going back ten years, and literally you
want to ruin him. Your goal is to politically annihilate him.
And you're suddenly on this group chat where they're discussing
this upcoming military campaign against the Huthis, and you're saying
to yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, hey, I'm happy the Russians. Aren't they on this?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
There's not a Russian spy or maybe the Houthis were
invited or an adversary of the United States. Is that
what you're thinking. What you're thinking is my god, I've
got the scoop. By the century lines are jammed. I
want to go right back to the phone lines of
all of you Gray Kooner country callers out there. Let
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me just ask all of this because I think this
is a major, major question that needs to be answered. Why,
if it's true, if Mike Waltz did invite him, that's
the question. Now, why would National Security Advisor Mike Waltz
invite a notorious Trump hater like Jeffrey Goldberg to be
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on this group chat unless he's some kind I don't
believe he is. I'm telling you, I don't believe it.
I am Mike Waltz's background. He's a military man, he's
a patriot, he's a conservative, he's a Trump supporter. So
I you know, maybe it was his staff. I mean,
I don't know. But what I'm trying to say is,
how could a notorious Trump hater be invited to this
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group chat? It had to be it had to be
the liberate, it had there has to be someone inside
who wanted Goldberg to have access to this. I think
there's no question. And to me, then the follow up
question is this what kind of a I'm putting this
in air quotes because he's not a reporter. He's an
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anti Trump Democrat activist. Jesus comeback, that's what he is.
How would a any self respecting reporter as someone I
think it was Susan or Suzanne on one of the messages, saying, Jeff,
you know, worth his weight in gold Why would you
go around advertising this and making yourself the center of
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the story. Just let me tell you this journalism one
o one you know at the Washington Times, and this
was literally taught to me by the former managing editor
of The Wall Street Journal who then became our managing editor.
He was a brilliant journalist, a brilliant editor, and he
you know, he Giles, who was his name, Bill Johns,
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And he said, you never make yourself the center of
the story. You're the reporter, You're not the story. Let
me tell you as a journalist, let me tell you
if I was in on that conversation, Okay, just whatever.
There's eighteen of them and I'm the nineteenth. I'm like,
holy shimoli. I don't know how the hell I got
invited onto this. But whoa, They're gonna bomb Yemen?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know, let me tell you what the obvious story is.
It's not going after Pete hag Seth. It's not going
after day Mike Walltz, It's not any of that, you know,
It's not all our adversaries could be on this group chat. Oh,
this is a leak, This is spionage, a violation. Oh
my god, the who thieves could be in on this. No,
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let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If you want a front page major reporting scoop JD.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And I'm not saying this in a negative way. In fact,
I think JD. Vance comes acro, comes across great in
this chat, thoughtful, almost like the adult in the room. Frankly,
I agree with JD. The point is you have the
Vice President of the United States in private, behind closed doors,
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opposing this bombing campaign in Yemen and saying, I don't
think it's a good idea. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's in our national interest.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Only three percent of American shipping goes through that whole area,
forty percent of European shipping does. Why are we fighting
for the Europeans again? And this may lead to a
big spike in oil and gas prices. The President's trying
to tame inflation and energy costs. And then he makes
another excellent point where he says, you know, it kind
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of goes against his message on Europe. His message on
Europe is they're not pulling their weight, They're freeloading off
of the United States. And yet here we're going to
get involved in a military operation, which is guess what.
The Europeans are free loading off of us and they're
not pulling their weight. And then you've got Steve Miller
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chiming in saying, you know, JD, on this point, you're right.
I hate the Europeans. By the way, they're bashing the
Europeans throughout, like if there's one thing they disagree on,
whether they should bomb Yemen or not.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And by the way, JD.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Vans eventually says, hey, look, if all of you agree,
I'm not going to obstruct. You know, you've heard my objections.
But President wants this done. You guys want this done.
I'll keep my That's what he says, quote unquote, I'll
keep my reservations to myself. In other words, Look, I'm
a team player. So guys, you want to do it,
you know, go ahead and do it. I'm just giving
you my honest feedback and my honest advice here. But
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Miller and heg Seth actually at one point say no,
Look JD. On this point, you're right. They even say it,
I hate the Europeans, not the people, the governments. You're right.
They're always freelowving off of us. They're always taking advantage
of us. And then Miller at one point says, look,
we're gonna have to come back to them. They're gonna
have to pay us for this. He puts it, We're
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gonna have to extract an economic cost. I'm giving you
the precise language. So Miller's like, no, look, man, we
got to make sure this is not for free again.
So if we're gonna help the Europeans out, and we are,
they're gonna have to pony up and we're gonna have
to find a way that they hey, they renumerate us,
and Hex says says, I completely agree. So what I'm
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telling you As a journalist, that's the story. That's the story.
The story is they were divided, which, by the way,
happens in every administration. But as a reporter, right, you
want to get what you want to lift the veil.
As a reporter, you want to report what's going on
behind the scenes. And everyone's like, oh really, yeah, they
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were divided on the Amen campaign. No oh JD thought
was a bad idea. Here was his reasons. Oh my god,
they hate the Europeans. Oh my god, do they hate
the European governments? That's the story. As a reporter, that's frankly,
what I would report. I would, you know, I'd be like, bang,
this is front page. I call it my editor and
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I'd say, this is I got it front page.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
What do you got? They're gonna bomb yem in well,
we know that. No, No, they're gonna bomb Yemen, I
think like today. But JD's against it. He thinks it's
a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Really yeah, but he's gonna, you know, take a bullet
for the team. He's gonna support it, but behind the
scenes he's against it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Wow. And they hate the European governments. Really, Oh, they're
bashing the Europeans. You wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, how much you need thirty inches? You got it,
give it to me in two hours. Go go, go there.
That's the newsroom for you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's not I was.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Accidentally leaked classified information about US war plans. Head chef
leads to resign. Mike Waltz needs to resign. What kind
of an incompetent administration is this that can't even keep
secrets classified info? And I'm at the center of the story. Oh,
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how I got this story? How the hell did I
get this story? This is outrageous. Heads need to roll,
People need to be impeached, people need to be fired.
This guy's a scumbag and a joke. That's why with him.
Don't trust a word that he says. Goldberg, he's a liar.
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He's a liar. Carrie in Westbridgewater. Thanks for holding Carrie,
and welcome.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Good morning, Jeff. I carry Jeff according to the Daily Mail,
which I find to be a fairly credible and in
fact I usually go to the Daily Mail if there's
something going on in the United States because they usually
have the story well before the American media does that
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they're blaming Mike Walls. In fact, the headline is Mike
Walls is a bleeping idiot and officials are White House
officials are blaming him for leaking this text. It doesn't
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really indicate whether he was live on the chat, Goldberg
was live on the chat, or if he got them
after the fact. I don't obviously, I don't know if
that's true. If Waltz was the person who did this,
it could be one of several things he could have
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intended to add somebody else. You know, when you type
in you know, say say I was typing in your name,
I was going to email you, and I type in
the je my.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Sister's name is Jen.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
You know, that could come up. Jeff could come up.
I'm trying to give the guy the benefit of the
doubt for doing this, but if not, you know, I
don't necessarily trust any of these people. I really don't.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
I just.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I think we have to look at everybody, even the
Trump supporters, with a fair degree of skepticism, because we've
been burned before by people who claimed that they were
team Trump and then you find out actually know their
team swamp.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You know, Carrie, there's other media outlets that are corroborating that,
and some of them I trust. I know that Trump
is angry with Waltz. I know that, and he said
it was sloppy to have put it on signal in
the first place. He goes, what were you thinking? And
he wants to know how how did Jeffrey Goldberg get
on that? Listen, this is my fear Kerry, if I
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was Trump's chief of staff. Is walt secretly talking to
Jeffrey Goldberg? Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
One of my most trusted investigative reporters. I trust almost
everything that he writes. I always look to him when
a story breaks. And that's Paul Sperry, a New York
former New York Post reporter Investors Business Daily. He now
writes for Real Clear Politics his stuff. I'm not saying
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he's infallible obviously, like every reporter he's got. You know,
he's God made mistakes. You don't get it right all
the time, but ninety nine percent of his stuff is
absolute gold. Here is what Paul Sperry wrote in reaction
to this scandal. What in the world was National Security
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Advisor Mike Waltz calling the execrable Jeffrey Goldberg in the
first place. Goldberg's the Atlantic editor who manufactured the October
surprise hit piece alleging that Trump had called fallen veterans
quote unquote losers. Waltz had Goldberg in his contacts, which
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means he had been a source.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Of his.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Paul Sperry then followed that up, saying FEC records show
that Mike Waltz gave at least five thousand dollars to
Mitt Romney. Now let me tell you what many of you,
the great listeners of Kooner Country, are telling me, one
after another. Jeff, I use signal all the time. I'm
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on that app all the time for you to dial
someone in or have someone just show up in case
it was even accidental. Means that they're on your phone's
contact list, which means you call them, and you call
them fairly regularly. I'd be looking at Mike Waltz. I'm
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not saying you fire the guy, but that's why you
need an internal investigation. I'm telling you this distincts to
high heaven. Agree disagree six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Tom in Medford, Thanks for holding
Tom and welcome. Hello Tom. All right, let's see if
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we can reconnect with Tom. Let's go to Tommy in Brockton.
Thanks for holding Tommy and well them Tommy, all right,
maybe we're having a problem with our phone system. Let's
try one more. David in Brookline. Thanks for holding.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
David, and welcome three times a charge. Yes, go ahead, David.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Jeff, I just want to look at this from a
just a different perspective. I'm a hell no on your question.
As far as you know Pete hag Seth, President Trump
chose him for a reason. And I'm not justifying if
there was blakee if and I'm saying if there was
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blatant sloppiness and it wasn't something else. What I'd like
to just point out is the obvious hypocrisy of the
people screaming the loudest the demon rats and as we
call it, the state controlled media. Just for example, they
they lauded the military for committing treason. I think it
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was Milly when he said he'd call China in advance
of an attack. That was great. Nothing happened to him.
They congratulated the same people, million others for Afghanistan for
that disaster. And we could go on and on. The
spy balloon, it flew over our country over military sites.
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That was terrific. They did a great job when they
shot it down over the ocean. One or two others,
Lloyd Austin went a wall, the Secretary of Defense. Nobody
knew where he was, but that was good, you know,
he called after the fact. It's two other ones. The
last one, you'll like, the so called insurrection on January sixth.
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Nothing happened in Nancy Pelosi. They said she.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Did a great job.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
She didn't call out and she didn't provide the National
Guard troops as requested. The same people screaming, and of
course the most blatant and obvious one. We had a
demented president for four years, but that was he's at
the top of his game. I mean, nobody's held accountable
for that. So the point is, again, if there was sloppiness,
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if there was a mistake, if that's terrible, I agree
with you. I don't think I think there's more to it.
But let's call what I'm sick most of all of
all these of the Democrats, aside from their policies, which
is killing all of us or killed all of us,
is the hypocrisy, Jeff, I can't stand it.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, you know, David, Look, I just to reinforce you're
dead on. I'm telling you you're absolutely dead on. And
just to reinforce what you're saying, I want to read.
This is what Chief Fullible. Okay, this is what Layahwatha
Elizabeth Warren put out on X in relation to this
so called scandal. Quote what Hegseth and Wall in this
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group chat. This is blatantly illegal and dangerous beyond belief.
According to the Chief, our national security is in the
hands of complete amateurs. What other highly sensitive national security
conversations are happening over group chat? Any other random people
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accidentally added to those two. Now, as I said on
X last night, and I want to get your take
on this, David, and I want to repeat this right now. Okay,
no one died. No one died in this operation from
the American side. I mean, there are a lot of
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dead Huthy terrorists, but I'm talking about from our side.
No one died. In fact, it was an incredibly and
still is a very whatever you think about it, pro
con for or against. Okay, I'm just stating objectively the facts.
Not one American US service member is died. The bombing campaign,
the drone attacks, the missile attacks have gone off without
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a hitch, so there's no problem. Nothing has been damaged.
No one has been killed, number one, number two. Unlike,
for example, as you mentioned Milli Milli, who bungled the
withdrawal from Afghanistan, got thirteen service members killed and then
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engaged in a systematic cover up. Yet I didn't see
the media outraged. I didn't see the Democrats outraged. I
didn't see a chief full of ble saying this is
a dangerous national security situation.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But let me get to the ultimate.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
As I said on X yesterday, they're talking now about
the espionage acques and oh my god, leaking classified information
and a reporter was to this group chat. This is unacceptable. Heck,
Seth's gotta go. Waltz has gotta go. They all gotta go.
Really talk to me. When Hillary Clinton is charged for
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violating the Espionage Act for conducting official business sending classified
information over an unsecured private server. I'm not talking one
group chat. I'm talking year after year after year of
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hundreds of thousands of pieces of email containing top secret,
highly classified information over a private server. And then when
she was caught illegally obstructing justice and destroying evidence, deleting
thirty three thousand emails with a hammer for God's sake
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and bleach bit.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
No, so was Chief up in arms? Then was Hakim
Jeffries think that chefs I gotta go to jail. Espionage
Act nothing, They circle the wagons around the hill de beast.
They defended Hillary Rotten Clinton. So I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Whatever the left wants to say or the media about
heg Seth or any other Trump national security official, talk
to me when Hillary Clinton is charged for having an
unsecure private server as Secretary of State and having deliberately
smashed and deleted thirty three thousand emails, including all of
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her phones. When you do that, then we can talk
about Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
What say you, David.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Again? The thing that is most aggravating is the hypocrisy.
To use your words, we're going to circle the wagons
for a change. As you said yesterday, when has one Democrat,
let alone get arrested? When have any of them ever
been held accountable? You just named ten things. I mean,
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you know we're winning, winning, winning, but that doesn't mean
potentially there could be a mistake and again if so again,
bottom line, I think President Trump is going to stand
by Pete hagscept I'm not so sure about Mike Waltz.
Let's let's see how it plays out. But I'm sick
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and tired of these people screaming when when we are
obviously doing better now as a nation in the last
eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Now there's no question. And look, David, let me let
me throw up another scenario here, and I want the
whole audience to Wigan as well, not as you David here.
This is now breaking and I don't know whether the
Democrats get out of this one. Do you know which
administration listen to? This started the practice of having national
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security officials communicate war strategy, war plans, military operations over
signal that commercial messaging app.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Joe Biden. Now it's coming out.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The reason why Mike Waltz is like this, this is
Mike Waltz, and he says he's got the receipts to
prove it.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
He goes, hey, whoa, whoa, Wait, everybody's jumping all over me.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Hey, I was told by my team that the Biden
administration encrypted this Signal messaging app and that now they
used it for years, that they've now set it up
at a level that it's as good as any government
secured communications network. And so the Biden administry routinely routinely
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had chats group chats with the Secretary of State, with
the National Security Advisor, with the CIA director, in which
they would be discussing potential military operations, and yes, classified
information was discussed as well. So this actually began under Biden,
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and that in fact, under Biden, Signal became the default
messaging app for every top security official. It was the
default program for everybody talking about national security affairs.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So this occurred under.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Biden, and that's why Waltz is like, hey, everybody's pouncing
over me.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You don't use Signal.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's not secure, it's commercial, it's I was told by
my people that Biden had been doing it for years
and apparently nobody complained, and that reporters would regularly be
in on these conversations. Now the fact that they would
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be privy to it but not release it. In other words, look,
we're gonna let you in on some inside information. When
it happens. It happens, and then you can report on it.
So just don't report on it beforehand. Now I don't
know if Mike Watz is admitting that he got Goldberg
on He's just saying, look, I mean, look at that. Look,
look we've got the receipts. So Jake Sullivan would be
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you know, Jake Sullivan would be talking, Anthony Blincoln would
be talking, the CIA director would be talking, and you'd
have reporters in on these group chats. And this was
all set up under the Biden regime. So the fact
of the matter is they're going after Waltz, and in
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particular heg Seth. Now we know something that Joe Biden
was using signal, His administration was using signal, and they
even had reporters in on these so called group chats.
I mean, hypocrisy is thy name, David?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I say, Jeff, if they asked Brandon, by the way,
did you see them parade him out the other night?
They want to make it look like he's somewhat confident
in case this whole thing with the auto pen comes out.
But anyway, if they asked him, were you using signal?
You want to know what his answer would be?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Chocolate chip, David, Thank you very much for that call.
I really appreciate it. So this is from Grace. Okay,
my wonderful wife, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place.
She just texted me this a couple of minutes ago. Jeff,
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you are one thousand percent correct. It's not coming out.
Signal was being used in the Biden administration, it appears.
So the story in many ways is when was this
app first introduced? And how long have reporters been on
these key classified chats. Who in the Biden administration put
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this app on all the devices? How long were they
using this? Now you know, there is another very real possibility,
and this is obviously what Grace is referring to. You know,
we're thinking and I understand why we're thinking this because
we got so burned in the first Trump administration. There
were leakers, moles, sabateors inside the whole time. This could
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be Biden or Biden's people, to be more accurate, who
are like, yeah, we're going to screw the Trump people.
We're gonna have everything put on signal, and we're gonna
have all the government devices put on signal, and we're
going to make sure that reporters have a way to
access these chats. So we're going to sabotage the Trump administration.
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Whenever they think they're holding a highly classified discussion or whatever, no,
it can be hacked or a reporter can sneak in
and listen in. And so this was a landmine planted
by the Biden regime to sabotage the incoming Trump administration.
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That's a very real Again, we don't know. We're gonna
have to do more internal investigation, but that is a
very real possibility.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Agree, disagree.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Antwine in Boston, thanks for holding Antoine, and welcome.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
How you doing, mister Koona. It's been a pleasure. I
haven't talked to you in a long time, but I'm
back from Boston and I just want to say this, right,
I think this is a bunch of crap because if
he had military things to expose I think that he
would have exposed it. I want Pete Heck secting him
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to release the whole text chain and expose this journalist
that he's lying. I wish they would say he already
stated yesterday there was no military chat or none of
this about who were gonna bomb or who we're gonna
do this to. So why won't they just release it
right and expose this journalist as a liar?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Antwine?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Uh, if you have time, I know you're a busy man.
The what everything has been released so far, if you
can just read it, and the reason why I'm saying
this is you're right.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I'm reading this. I was reading it last night. I'm
reading it.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I've read every single word that has been publicly released.
I'm like, there are there's no war plans here, but
there's nothing. I mean, there's general like a policy to discussion.
And it's fascinating. I mean really it is. In other words, Oh,
that's like, it's fascinating how they came to this decision
and the arguments pro and con and who's discussing what
(34:11):
and who's saying what, and and by the way, everybody's
making excellent points. Honestly, what you end up seeing is
very thoughtful, very smart.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Uh. And in the end, they're very coordinated.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
In other words, they talk, they debate, they go back
and forth, but then they're all on message at the end.
They're all on the same team. So it's fascinating. I mean,
it's it's really like inside you know, almost like you're
reading a spy thriller, but it's it's real. Right, So
I'm reading this and I'm like, wow, this is really juicy.
(34:45):
But where's the classified information? Okay, where's the war plans? Again,
we're taking Goldberg's word now. If you notice I've played
one of the cuts, he backtracks a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He says, well, if they're not war.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Plans, it's sequencing, it's attacks, it's targets, it's so it's
not really a war plan. It's more of a general
framework of the you know, the campaign in Yemen. So
he's already backtracking a little bit. Antoine, you're saying he's lying,
(35:23):
Just call his bluff. In other words, he's exaggerating what
he claims he has and what he claims Heexxeth did
is not true. These weren't the war plans, and this
wasn't top secret classified information.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Correct, right, correct, Because if he was, if he was
going to say listen, he would go to the Senate
and say, listen, look, these are the plants. Look be
the he's showing me stuff that Hey, this is where
it strikes at, this is what But he's not going
to do that. It's just another one of these ms DN,
(35:58):
boring DC anonymous sources that need to be rooted out
of of of media. I love the way you know
when you come with a source, I know.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
You're right on.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
But these people with these anonymous sources and saying I
have this information, and we don't hold their feet to
the fire. This is why the liberal media and the
rest of the established media is done for me and
done for us. We're done.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
We're just done.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Antwine, thank you very much for that call. Really appreciate it. Look,
remember Goldberg is the guy again who and this was
a hit piece on Trump. It was true, Paul Sperry's right.
It was in October Surprise where he claimed in France
that Trump was, you know, mocking and making fun and
(36:54):
disparaging American veterans service members who fought in World War One,
World War to who died in France and Goldberg said,
oh yeah, he called them suckers and losers. And the
media ran wild with that story. And you remember Biden
kept trying to make a big issue of it, even
in the debate on CNN that the few times he
(37:16):
was coherent, my son wasn't a sucker and loser. And
Trump never said that. And we know Trump never said that,
because there were multiple witnesses in the group and they said, no,
we heard the whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It was the opposite.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He kept praising him, he loved them, He kept saying,
these are great heroes who made immense sacrifices. Goldberg literally
made the whole thing up. Now he's got text messages,
there's no question. But we're taking much of this at
his word. And a liar like that, an anti trumper,
(37:56):
a hater, I don't trust him as far as I
can throw. So the question I have if I had
Waltz in my office is how is this guy on
your contact list? Or was he on your contact list?
I guess that's hey, how did he get on the
group chat? And did that come from you? And if
(38:17):
you were the one that invited him, why the hell
is he on your contact list?
Okay, I got this message from Larry on messenger and
I completely agree with him. Jeff, not for nothing, But
it sounds like Pete Hegseth was blindsided as much as
President Trump was. I agree that you can see it.
I mean you can just see it on his face.
You can see it's like somebody wrung his bells. Like
(00:21):
what Goldberg was? What on the group chat? How did
that happen?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You can just see it all over him. It's like,
how does a screw up like this take place?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Listen now to Goldberg and oh man, was he milking
this yesterday? So he put his story up on The
Atlantic's website and again claiming that it was accidentally leaked
to him. Those are his words saying, I don't know.
I just I was on this group chat all of
a sudden, and they're discussing all these war plans. Now
I'm just listening and watching and reading all these text messages,
(00:59):
and I'm like, I can't believe this. Listen now to Goldberg.
He started off on MSDNC with Jens Hoki roll cut
for Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'm going to be responsible here and not disclose the
things that I read and saw. I will describe them
to you the specific time of a future attack, specific targets,
including human targets meant to be killed in that attack,
(01:37):
weapons systems, even weather reports. You know that the government
is I don't know why hexcept was sharing it with everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So now he's like again, you can see they're going
after hesef right, they're really going out now. You would think, well,
wouldn't they go after Mike Waltz because privately Trump is
a little bit more upset frankly at Waltz than at
He's upset it both privately, but Waltz more than heg
sat saying, well, you're the one that's set up the
(02:07):
chat group, the group chat forgive me. You're the one
that said let's put all this on signal. You're I mean,
sloppy like in other words, he's not happy with Mike Waltz.
Come on, you should have known better. You put it
on a very secure government communications network, or you tell everybody,
I don't care what you're all doing, go to the
situation room, you know. But if you can't because people
(02:28):
are overseas or traveling or whatever, then at least you know,
don't put it on a commercial app for god's sakes,
put it on something that's rock solid secure, or you
can discuss top secret classified information. But no, the media,
including Goldberg, they're not going after Mike Waltz. They're going
after Hegseth. Listen now to him saying, oh, it was
(02:52):
the war plans. I mean it was all there, roll
cut for a Mike to.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
The precise detail and then and then a long section
on sequencing. This is going to happen, then that is
going to happen, after that happens, this happens, then that happens,
and then we go and find out if it worked.
I mean, you know, he can say that it wasn't
a war plan, but uh, it was a it was
(03:21):
a minute by minute accounting of what was about to happen,
organized by Sencom Central Command, which is the military oversight
group of the Middle East, the broader Middle East. This
is their plan, and he was taking their plan and
sharing it with a bunch of civilian leaders.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So again he's going after hag Seth, and he's basically
saying he put operational security in jeopardy. He leaked classified
information unknowingly inadvertently. But that's what he did, according to
Goldberg and I want to play one more listen out
to Goldberg because this is the explosive one of the
(04:05):
explosive claims he makes. He says at eleven forty four
am Saturday morning. This was on the fifteenth of March,
So what is it with ten days ago? Whatever it is,
He goes, I'm reading they're going to pound, They're going
to hit the Houthies now in just a couple of hours.
And I'll saying to myself, if I'm on this group shot,
(04:26):
who the hell else is on this group shot?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Roll cut five? Mike.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's interesting because as I'm reading it at eleven forty
four am on Saturday morning, the fifteenth, seeing that the
Houthis are not going to know about this for another
couple of hours, and you know about it, well what I.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Know about it?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And I'm thinking myself, I mean, honestly, I'm thinking to myself, well,
I'm glad that Mike Waltz didn't invite a Huthie into
the group, or or a Russian spy or an adversary
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You see, I don't believe him. I don't believe them.
Does that make sense to you? Let's just play it
out You're a reporter, okay, an editor of a low
subscription but high profile never Trump, anti Trump, left wing
magazine that has been at the center of scandals and
(05:19):
clashes with Trump going back ten years, and literally you
want to ruin him. Your goal is to politically annihilate him.
And you're suddenly on this group chat where they're discussing
this upcoming military campaign against the Huthis, and you're saying
to yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, hey, I'm happy the Russians. Aren't they on this?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
There's not a Russian spy or maybe the Houthis were
invited or an adversary of the United States. Is that
what you're thinking. What you're thinking is my god, I've
got the scoop. By the century lines are jammed. I
want to go right back to the phone lines of
all of you Gray Kooner country callers out there. Let
(06:04):
me just ask all of this because I think this
is a major, major question that needs to be answered. Why,
if it's true, if Mike Waltz did invite him, that's
the question. Now, why would National Security Advisor Mike Waltz
invite a notorious Trump hater like Jeffrey Goldberg to be
(06:30):
on this group chat unless he's some kind I don't
believe he is. I'm telling you, I don't believe it.
I am Mike Waltz's background. He's a military man, he's
a patriot, he's a conservative, he's a Trump supporter. So
I you know, maybe it was his staff. I mean,
I don't know. But what I'm trying to say is,
how could a notorious Trump hater be invited to this
(06:55):
group chat? It had to be it had to be
the liberate, it had there has to be someone inside
who wanted Goldberg to have access to this. I think
there's no question. And to me, then the follow up
question is this what kind of a I'm putting this
in air quotes because he's not a reporter. He's an
(07:19):
anti Trump Democrat activist. Jesus comeback, that's what he is.
How would a any self respecting reporter as someone I
think it was Susan or Suzanne on one of the messages, saying, Jeff,
you know, worth his weight in gold Why would you
go around advertising this and making yourself the center of
(07:40):
the story. Just let me tell you this journalism one
o one you know at the Washington Times, and this
was literally taught to me by the former managing editor
of The Wall Street Journal who then became our managing editor.
He was a brilliant journalist, a brilliant editor, and he
you know, he Giles, who was his name, Bill Johns,
(08:01):
And he said, you never make yourself the center of
the story. You're the reporter, You're not the story. Let
me tell you as a journalist, let me tell you
if I was in on that conversation, Okay, just whatever.
There's eighteen of them and I'm the nineteenth. I'm like,
holy shimoli. I don't know how the hell I got
invited onto this. But whoa, They're gonna bomb Yemen?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know, let me tell you what the obvious story is.
It's not going after Pete hag Seth. It's not going
after day Mike Walltz, It's not any of that, you know,
It's not all our adversaries could be on this group chat. Oh,
this is a leak, This is spionage, a violation. Oh
my god, the who thieves could be in on this. No,
(08:46):
let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If you want a front page major reporting scoop JD.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And I'm not saying this in a negative way. In fact,
I think JD. Vance comes acro, comes across great in
this chat, thoughtful, almost like the adult in the room. Frankly,
I agree with JD. The point is you have the
Vice President of the United States in private, behind closed doors,
(09:15):
opposing this bombing campaign in Yemen and saying, I don't
think it's a good idea. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's in our national interest.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Only three percent of American shipping goes through that whole area,
forty percent of European shipping does. Why are we fighting
for the Europeans again? And this may lead to a
big spike in oil and gas prices. The President's trying
to tame inflation and energy costs. And then he makes
another excellent point where he says, you know, it kind
(09:46):
of goes against his message on Europe. His message on
Europe is they're not pulling their weight, They're freeloading off
of the United States. And yet here we're going to
get involved in a military operation, which is guess what.
The Europeans are free loading off of us and they're
not pulling their weight. And then you've got Steve Miller
(10:08):
chiming in saying, you know, JD, on this point, you're right.
I hate the Europeans. By the way, they're bashing the
Europeans throughout, like if there's one thing they disagree on,
whether they should bomb Yemen or not.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And by the way, JD.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Vans eventually says, hey, look, if all of you agree,
I'm not going to obstruct. You know, you've heard my objections.
But President wants this done. You guys want this done.
I'll keep my That's what he says, quote unquote, I'll
keep my reservations to myself. In other words, Look, I'm
a team player. So guys, you want to do it,
you know, go ahead and do it. I'm just giving
you my honest feedback and my honest advice here. But
(10:48):
Miller and heg Seth actually at one point say no,
Look JD. On this point, you're right. They even say it,
I hate the Europeans, not the people, the governments. You're right.
They're always freelowving off of us. They're always taking advantage
of us. And then Miller at one point says, look,
we're gonna have to come back to them. They're gonna
have to pay us for this. He puts it, We're
(11:11):
gonna have to extract an economic cost. I'm giving you
the precise language. So Miller's like, no, look, man, we
got to make sure this is not for free again.
So if we're gonna help the Europeans out, and we are,
they're gonna have to pony up and we're gonna have
to find a way that they hey, they renumerate us,
and Hex says says, I completely agree. So what I'm
(11:33):
telling you As a journalist, that's the story. That's the story.
The story is they were divided, which, by the way,
happens in every administration. But as a reporter, right, you
want to get what you want to lift the veil.
As a reporter, you want to report what's going on
behind the scenes. And everyone's like, oh really, yeah, they
(11:57):
were divided on the Amen campaign. No oh JD thought
was a bad idea. Here was his reasons. Oh my god,
they hate the Europeans. Oh my god, do they hate
the European governments? That's the story. As a reporter, that's frankly,
what I would report. I would, you know, I'd be like, bang,
this is front page. I call it my editor and
(12:18):
I'd say, this is I got it front page.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
What do you got? They're gonna bomb yem in well,
we know that. No, No, they're gonna bomb Yemen, I
think like today. But JD's against it. He thinks it's
a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Really yeah, but he's gonna, you know, take a bullet
for the team. He's gonna support it, but behind the
scenes he's against it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Wow. And they hate the European governments. Really, Oh, they're
bashing the Europeans. You wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, how much you need thirty inches? You got it,
give it to me in two hours. Go go, go there.
That's the newsroom for you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's not I was.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Accidentally leaked classified information about US war plans. Head chef
leads to resign. Mike Waltz needs to resign. What kind
of an incompetent administration is this that can't even keep
secrets classified info? And I'm at the center of the story. Oh,
(13:20):
how I got this story? How the hell did I
get this story? This is outrageous. Heads need to roll,
People need to be impeached, people need to be fired.
This guy's a scumbag and a joke. That's why with him.
Don't trust a word that he says. Goldberg, he's a liar.
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He's a liar. Carrie in Westbridgewater. Thanks for holding Carrie,
and welcome.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Good morning, Jeff. I carry Jeff according to the Daily Mail,
which I find to be a fairly credible and in
fact I usually go to the Daily Mail if there's
something going on in the United States because they usually
have the story well before the American media does that
(14:13):
they're blaming Mike Walls. In fact, the headline is Mike
Walls is a bleeping idiot and officials are White House
officials are blaming him for leaking this text. It doesn't
(14:35):
really indicate whether he was live on the chat, Goldberg
was live on the chat, or if he got them
after the fact. I don't obviously, I don't know if
that's true. If Waltz was the person who did this,
it could be one of several things he could have
(14:57):
intended to add somebody else. You know, when you type
in you know, say say I was typing in your name,
I was going to email you, and I type in
the je my.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Sister's name is Jen.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
You know, that could come up. Jeff could come up.
I'm trying to give the guy the benefit of the
doubt for doing this, but if not, you know, I
don't necessarily trust any of these people. I really don't.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
I just.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I think we have to look at everybody, even the
Trump supporters, with a fair degree of skepticism, because we've
been burned before by people who claimed that they were
team Trump and then you find out actually know their
team swamp.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You know, Carrie, there's other media outlets that are corroborating that,
and some of them I trust. I know that Trump
is angry with Waltz. I know that, and he said
it was sloppy to have put it on signal in
the first place. He goes, what were you thinking? And
he wants to know how how did Jeffrey Goldberg get
on that? Listen, this is my fear Kerry, if I
(16:16):
was Trump's chief of staff. Is walt secretly talking to
Jeffrey Goldberg? Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
One of my most trusted investigative reporters. I trust almost
everything that he writes. I always look to him when
a story breaks. And that's Paul Sperry, a New York
former New York Post reporter Investors Business Daily. He now
writes for Real Clear Politics his stuff. I'm not saying
(16:50):
he's infallible obviously, like every reporter he's got. You know,
he's God made mistakes. You don't get it right all
the time, but ninety nine percent of his stuff is
absolute gold. Here is what Paul Sperry wrote in reaction
to this scandal. What in the world was National Security
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Advisor Mike Waltz calling the execrable Jeffrey Goldberg in the
first place. Goldberg's the Atlantic editor who manufactured the October
surprise hit piece alleging that Trump had called fallen veterans
quote unquote losers. Waltz had Goldberg in his contacts, which
(17:38):
means he had been a source.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Of his.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Paul Sperry then followed that up, saying FEC records show
that Mike Waltz gave at least five thousand dollars to
Mitt Romney. Now let me tell you what many of you,
the great listeners of Kooner Country, are telling me, one
after another. Jeff, I use signal all the time. I'm
(18:05):
on that app all the time for you to dial
someone in or have someone just show up in case
it was even accidental. Means that they're on your phone's
contact list, which means you call them, and you call
them fairly regularly. I'd be looking at Mike Waltz. I'm
(18:28):
not saying you fire the guy, but that's why you
need an internal investigation. I'm telling you this distincts to
high heaven. Agree disagree six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Tom in Medford, Thanks for holding
Tom and welcome. Hello Tom. All right, let's see if
(18:53):
we can reconnect with Tom. Let's go to Tommy in Brockton.
Thanks for holding Tommy and well them Tommy, all right,
maybe we're having a problem with our phone system. Let's
try one more. David in Brookline. Thanks for holding.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
David, and welcome three times a charge. Yes, go ahead, David.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Jeff, I just want to look at this from a
just a different perspective. I'm a hell no on your question.
As far as you know Pete hag Seth, President Trump
chose him for a reason. And I'm not justifying if
there was blakee if and I'm saying if there was
(19:43):
blatant sloppiness and it wasn't something else. What I'd like
to just point out is the obvious hypocrisy of the
people screaming the loudest the demon rats and as we
call it, the state controlled media. Just for example, they
they lauded the military for committing treason. I think it
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was Milly when he said he'd call China in advance
of an attack. That was great. Nothing happened to him.
They congratulated the same people, million others for Afghanistan for
that disaster. And we could go on and on. The
spy balloon, it flew over our country over military sites.
(20:27):
That was terrific. They did a great job when they
shot it down over the ocean. One or two others,
Lloyd Austin went a wall, the Secretary of Defense. Nobody
knew where he was, but that was good, you know,
he called after the fact. It's two other ones. The
last one, you'll like, the so called insurrection on January sixth.
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Nothing happened in Nancy Pelosi. They said she.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Did a great job.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
She didn't call out and she didn't provide the National
Guard troops as requested. The same people screaming, and of
course the most blatant and obvious one. We had a
demented president for four years, but that was he's at
the top of his game. I mean, nobody's held accountable
for that. So the point is, again, if there was sloppiness,
(21:17):
if there was a mistake, if that's terrible, I agree
with you. I don't think I think there's more to it.
But let's call what I'm sick most of all of
all these of the Democrats, aside from their policies, which
is killing all of us or killed all of us,
is the hypocrisy, Jeff, I can't stand it.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, you know, David, Look, I just to reinforce you're
dead on. I'm telling you you're absolutely dead on. And
just to reinforce what you're saying, I want to read.
This is what Chief Fullible. Okay, this is what Layahwatha
Elizabeth Warren put out on X in relation to this
so called scandal. Quote what Hegseth and Wall in this
(22:00):
group chat. This is blatantly illegal and dangerous beyond belief.
According to the Chief, our national security is in the
hands of complete amateurs. What other highly sensitive national security
conversations are happening over group chat? Any other random people
(22:23):
accidentally added to those two. Now, as I said on
X last night, and I want to get your take
on this, David, and I want to repeat this right now. Okay,
no one died. No one died in this operation from
the American side. I mean, there are a lot of
(22:43):
dead Huthy terrorists, but I'm talking about from our side.
No one died. In fact, it was an incredibly and
still is a very whatever you think about it, pro
con for or against. Okay, I'm just stating objectively the facts.
Not one American US service member is died. The bombing campaign,
the drone attacks, the missile attacks have gone off without
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a hitch, so there's no problem. Nothing has been damaged.
No one has been killed, number one, number two. Unlike,
for example, as you mentioned Milli Milli, who bungled the
withdrawal from Afghanistan, got thirteen service members killed and then
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engaged in a systematic cover up. Yet I didn't see
the media outraged. I didn't see the Democrats outraged. I
didn't see a chief full of ble saying this is
a dangerous national security situation.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But let me get to the ultimate.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
As I said on X yesterday, they're talking now about
the espionage acques and oh my god, leaking classified information
and a reporter was to this group chat. This is unacceptable. Heck,
Seth's gotta go. Waltz has gotta go. They all gotta go.
Really talk to me. When Hillary Clinton is charged for
(24:14):
violating the Espionage Act for conducting official business sending classified
information over an unsecured private server. I'm not talking one
group chat. I'm talking year after year after year of
(24:35):
hundreds of thousands of pieces of email containing top secret,
highly classified information over a private server. And then when
she was caught illegally obstructing justice and destroying evidence, deleting
thirty three thousand emails with a hammer for God's sake
(24:56):
and bleach bit.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
No, so was Chief up in arms? Then was Hakim
Jeffries think that chefs I gotta go to jail. Espionage
Act nothing, They circle the wagons around the hill de beast.
They defended Hillary Rotten Clinton. So I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Whatever the left wants to say or the media about
heg Seth or any other Trump national security official, talk
to me when Hillary Clinton is charged for having an
unsecure private server as Secretary of State and having deliberately
smashed and deleted thirty three thousand emails, including all of
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her phones. When you do that, then we can talk
about Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
What say you, David.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Again? The thing that is most aggravating is the hypocrisy.
To use your words, we're going to circle the wagons
for a change. As you said yesterday, when has one Democrat,
let alone get arrested? When have any of them ever
been held accountable? You just named ten things. I mean,
(26:17):
you know we're winning, winning, winning, but that doesn't mean
potentially there could be a mistake and again if so again,
bottom line, I think President Trump is going to stand
by Pete hagscept I'm not so sure about Mike Waltz.
Let's let's see how it plays out. But I'm sick
(26:38):
and tired of these people screaming when when we are
obviously doing better now as a nation in the last
eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Now there's no question. And look, David, let me let
me throw up another scenario here, and I want the
whole audience to Wigan as well, not as you David here.
This is now breaking and I don't know whether the
Democrats get out of this one. Do you know which
administration listen to? This started the practice of having national
(27:10):
security officials communicate war strategy, war plans, military operations over
signal that commercial messaging app.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Joe Biden. Now it's coming out.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The reason why Mike Waltz is like this, this is
Mike Waltz, and he says he's got the receipts to
prove it.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
He goes, hey, whoa, whoa, Wait, everybody's jumping all over me.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Hey, I was told by my team that the Biden
administration encrypted this Signal messaging app and that now they
used it for years, that they've now set it up
at a level that it's as good as any government
secured communications network. And so the Biden administry routinely routinely
(28:04):
had chats group chats with the Secretary of State, with
the National Security Advisor, with the CIA director, in which
they would be discussing potential military operations, and yes, classified
information was discussed as well. So this actually began under Biden,
(28:25):
and that in fact, under Biden, Signal became the default
messaging app for every top security official. It was the
default program for everybody talking about national security affairs.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So this occurred under.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Biden, and that's why Waltz is like, hey, everybody's pouncing
over me.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You don't use Signal.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's not secure, it's commercial, it's I was told by
my people that Biden had been doing it for years
and apparently nobody complained, and that reporters would regularly be
in on these conversations. Now the fact that they would
(29:11):
be privy to it but not release it. In other words, look,
we're gonna let you in on some inside information. When
it happens. It happens, and then you can report on it.
So just don't report on it beforehand. Now I don't
know if Mike Watz is admitting that he got Goldberg
on He's just saying, look, I mean, look at that. Look,
look we've got the receipts. So Jake Sullivan would be
(29:36):
you know, Jake Sullivan would be talking, Anthony Blincoln would
be talking, the CIA director would be talking, and you'd
have reporters in on these group chats. And this was
all set up under the Biden regime. So the fact
of the matter is they're going after Waltz, and in
(29:57):
particular heg Seth. Now we know something that Joe Biden
was using signal, His administration was using signal, and they
even had reporters in on these so called group chats.
I mean, hypocrisy is thy name, David?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I say, Jeff, if they asked Brandon, by the way,
did you see them parade him out the other night?
They want to make it look like he's somewhat confident
in case this whole thing with the auto pen comes out.
But anyway, if they asked him, were you using signal?
You want to know what his answer would be?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Chocolate chip, David, Thank you very much for that call.
I really appreciate it. So this is from Grace. Okay,
my wonderful wife, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place.
She just texted me this a couple of minutes ago. Jeff,
(30:56):
you are one thousand percent correct. It's not coming out.
Signal was being used in the Biden administration, it appears.
So the story in many ways is when was this
app first introduced? And how long have reporters been on
these key classified chats. Who in the Biden administration put
(31:21):
this app on all the devices? How long were they
using this? Now you know, there is another very real possibility,
and this is obviously what Grace is referring to. You know,
we're thinking and I understand why we're thinking this because
we got so burned in the first Trump administration. There
were leakers, moles, sabateors inside the whole time. This could
(31:47):
be Biden or Biden's people, to be more accurate, who
are like, yeah, we're going to screw the Trump people.
We're gonna have everything put on signal, and we're gonna
have all the government devices put on signal, and we're
going to make sure that reporters have a way to
access these chats. So we're going to sabotage the Trump administration.
(32:09):
Whenever they think they're holding a highly classified discussion or whatever, no,
it can be hacked or a reporter can sneak in
and listen in. And so this was a landmine planted
by the Biden regime to sabotage the incoming Trump administration.
(32:30):
That's a very real Again, we don't know. We're gonna
have to do more internal investigation, but that is a
very real possibility.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Agree, disagree.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Antwine in Boston, thanks for holding Antoine, and welcome.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
How you doing, mister Koona. It's been a pleasure. I
haven't talked to you in a long time, but I'm
back from Boston and I just want to say this, right,
I think this is a bunch of crap because if
he had military things to expose I think that he
would have exposed it. I want Pete Heck secting him
(33:08):
to release the whole text chain and expose this journalist
that he's lying. I wish they would say he already
stated yesterday there was no military chat or none of
this about who were gonna bomb or who we're gonna
do this to. So why won't they just release it
right and expose this journalist as a liar?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Antwine?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Uh, if you have time, I know you're a busy man.
The what everything has been released so far, if you
can just read it, and the reason why I'm saying
this is you're right.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I'm reading this. I was reading it last night. I'm
reading it.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I've read every single word that has been publicly released.
I'm like, there are there's no war plans here, but
there's nothing. I mean, there's general like a policy to discussion.
And it's fascinating. I mean really it is. In other words, Oh,
that's like, it's fascinating how they came to this decision
and the arguments pro and con and who's discussing what
(34:11):
and who's saying what, and and by the way, everybody's
making excellent points. Honestly, what you end up seeing is
very thoughtful, very smart.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Uh. And in the end, they're very coordinated.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
In other words, they talk, they debate, they go back
and forth, but then they're all on message at the end.
They're all on the same team. So it's fascinating. I mean,
it's it's really like inside you know, almost like you're
reading a spy thriller, but it's it's real. Right, So
I'm reading this and I'm like, wow, this is really juicy.
(34:45):
But where's the classified information? Okay, where's the war plans? Again,
we're taking Goldberg's word now. If you notice I've played
one of the cuts, he backtracks a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He says, well, if they're not war.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Plans, it's sequencing, it's attacks, it's targets, it's so it's
not really a war plan. It's more of a general
framework of the you know, the campaign in Yemen. So
he's already backtracking a little bit. Antoine, you're saying he's lying,
(35:23):
Just call his bluff. In other words, he's exaggerating what
he claims he has and what he claims Heexxeth did
is not true. These weren't the war plans, and this
wasn't top secret classified information.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Correct, right, correct, Because if he was, if he was
going to say listen, he would go to the Senate
and say, listen, look, these are the plants. Look be
the he's showing me stuff that Hey, this is where
it strikes at, this is what But he's not going
to do that. It's just another one of these ms DN,
(35:58):
boring DC anonymous sources that need to be rooted out
of of of media. I love the way you know
when you come with a source, I know.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
You're right on.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
But these people with these anonymous sources and saying I
have this information, and we don't hold their feet to
the fire. This is why the liberal media and the
rest of the established media is done for me and
done for us. We're done.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
We're just done.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Antwine, thank you very much for that call. Really appreciate it. Look,
remember Goldberg is the guy again who and this was
a hit piece on Trump. It was true, Paul Sperry's right.
It was in October Surprise where he claimed in France
that Trump was, you know, mocking and making fun and
(36:54):
disparaging American veterans service members who fought in World War One,
World War to who died in France and Goldberg said,
oh yeah, he called them suckers and losers. And the
media ran wild with that story. And you remember Biden
kept trying to make a big issue of it, even
in the debate on CNN that the few times he
(37:16):
was coherent, my son wasn't a sucker and loser. And
Trump never said that. And we know Trump never said that,
because there were multiple witnesses in the group and they said, no,
we heard the whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It was the opposite.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He kept praising him, he loved them, He kept saying,
these are great heroes who made immense sacrifices. Goldberg literally
made the whole thing up. Now he's got text messages,
there's no question. But we're taking much of this at
his word. And a liar like that, an anti trumper,
(37:56):
a hater, I don't trust him as far as I
can throw. So the question I have if I had
Waltz in my office is how is this guy on
your contact list? Or was he on your contact list?
I guess that's hey, how did he get on the
group chat? And did that come from you? And if
(38:17):
you were the one that invited him, why the hell
is he on your contact list?
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