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Speaker 1 (00:01):
He ain't going anywhere. That is the word that we
are getting this morning about the President of the United
States of America making it very clear that he is
not dropping out of the race. Here is what Simone
Sanders is saying about all of this and the concerns
they now have.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Simone Sanders, what are you hearing?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Look what I'm hearing from? Well, it depends on who
we're talking to make it to be honest, when you
talk to strategists and operatives, not folks that work for
the Biden campaign or in the White House, but outside
of that elected officials, right the political professionals, donors, they
are echoing some of the same things that Eugene has
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noted in his piece that we're all hearing that they
are concerned, that they want to hear more from the
White House, that they want to see the president do
a town hall, do more interviews, they want to see
him more. But then when I talk to non political professionals,
if you will, as I like to say, every day,
regular folks who don't do this every day, they look
at this and say, in Melissa MraY and I talked
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to black women in Montgomery County just this weekend on Sunday,
and they all said, I asked, we asked him about
the debate. They said the debate, they it wasn't good
for Trump or Joe Biden. But the women who were
supportive of the president in that room said, look at
this point, we can't get anyone else. There was someone
that noted, we should stand by our guy. There was
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someone else that noted, how realistic is this talk of
removing him? And they were more concerned with the broader picture.
And they also, unprompted, brought up democracy and the Supreme Court.
So I would just argue that the best way for
the Biden campaign to really they won't be able to
stop the talk because the chatter is going to continue,
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because every single thing that the president does between now
and November is going to be parsed every single which way.
If he if he stumbles walking, if he walks a
little too slow, if he walks a little too fast,
you know, if he forgets a word, every single thing
is going to be a view through the prison of
what happened on that debate stage. So the chatter will
not end. But I think a way to really blunt
some of the criticism is in fact too you know,
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let the president put the president out there in various
ways in which that you know he will shine. And again,
I think town halls, doing things with voters, real people,
where he is answering questions from regular folks, will make
the difference. And I do think the President could right
to that occasion. And I will just lastly say that
I think we have all heard chatter inside. And I
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was struck by that Washington Post reporting about concerns that
folks said that they had about the president's health. The
last time I saw the president, he seemed and looked
fine to me. But yes, on that debate stage, it
was not a good performance. And so the only way
to assuage people's concerns is to let them see for themselves.
And Joe Biden, I believe, thinks that he is his
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best political consultant. And I'm interested to see what the
President decides to do this week.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So now, if you are talking about the president's health,
it's more that you are quote concerned, You just have concerns.
You are concerned, You're very concerned. It's not about the country,
it's about him personally. That's how they're spinning this now.
Simone Sanders who, by the way, used to work for
this president in this White House and the first lady.
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I think it's pretty obvious from what she just said
there she is not that concerned with the president. She's
ready for him to move on. Let me say that again.
She's ready for him to move on. She's ready to say,
let's go to the next thing, whatever that next thing is.
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She's ready to go to that next thing. This is
not shocking, I want to be clear about that. But
the way that she articulated it, I also think is
important because they're not giving in yet to replacing Joe Biden.
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They're not rallying behind Joe Biden the way that she
just described it. And I think that's a pretty obvious
point that that she's making, like, Hey, I'm I'm not
I'm not giving in here to trying to force him
out the door. They understand how big of a liability
he is, and they understand not just what a liability
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that he is, but I think they also understand that
this is a moment where they can't just say, Okay,
he's gonna stay, so we're gonna accept it. We've got
to figure out some sort of Jedi mind trick to
convince him, We're just concerned about your health. Like it's
really just your health. That's all it is. It is
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just your health. We're just worried, We're just concerned. We
just want you to be healthy. We're just trying. I mean,
I mean the rhetoric there was next level pr and
and if you are the president, units it's America and
you're watching this happened in real time, I would think
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you would feel very much like you are under attack.
There was a Washington Post op ed by Eugene Robinson
and it was entitled This Morning, Biden's twenty twenty four
survival requires a lot more than hope. Now, they always
go back to motions of hope and change, right, Like
that's how Democrats now get elected. They don't actually tell
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you they're going to do anything specifically. They just give
you these Kumbaya moments. I want you to listen to
Eugene Robinson and what he said on MSNBC about the president.
His assessment after writing this op ed for the Washington
Post that Biden's twenty twenty four survival requires a lot
more than just hope.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, look, I think he needs to do everything he
can to reverse the the impression, the clear impression that
was that was left by that debate five days ago,
that debate on Thursday. Because you know, I have I've
been coming on the show for a long time. I
am a longtime critic of Democratic bed wedding. I don't
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you know, I think it's it's crazy A lot of
the time. I think this is different. I think a
lot of Democrats were shocked by what they saw Thursday night,
and I think this this sort of hunkering down and saying,
you know, nothing to say, nothing to see here. You know,
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the polling is unchanged. They set out that memo over
the over the weekend saying the polling is unchanged. So
it didn't really hurt us, but that's internal polling focusing
on the swing states that actually shows him trailing Donald
Trump by a slight margin, uh you know, within the
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margin of error. But nonetheless it shows him behind Trump
in these states. And so sending out a memo saying, look,
we're still behind, but we're not behind any worse is
not exactly the best ad for for your campaign. And
so why, you know, why isn't he calling Schumer and
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Jeffries and why isn't he doing some sort of unscripted
appearance that shows that that erases the oppression that was
very clearly left Thursday night. I think this is this
is potentially a really big problem for the Democratic Party,
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for Biden's reelection campaign. And I think, you know, I
think Democrats are our right to send up the alarm.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I think Democrats are right to send the arm. This
is again nine one one. This is a nine to
one one plea, as it was described by him, You've
got to do things differently to assure people you're okay.
You're not doing any of them, probably because you're incapable
or incapacitated from doing it. And so that's on you, right, Like,
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that's straight up on you. I'm sorry. I look at
this and hear what he's saying, and looking at the
White House, there is a civil war that is not brewing.
It is an all out war now, all out war
between the Democratic Party. Many of those are running for
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election right now are very very very very very concerned
that he is going to drag down the ticket. Now
they're going to point to that polling that was just mentioned. Wow,
the polls are unchanged. Look, I'm actually not surprised that
the polls are changed because even if you hate even
if you hate Donald Trump and you can't stand what
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Joe Biden did the other night, I am still not
sure that you're going to change your vote if you
think that he is a total disaster, okay, like like
a complete and utter disaster. Are you going to switch
your vote to Donald Trump? I don't think you are.
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We are a tribal country right now. You're a Democrat
or you're a Republican. There's really no in between. You're
one and or the other. There is no in between.
I said a moment ago that we are tribal, right,
we are just so tribal, and we are. We are
incredibly tribal. And and that means if you're a Democrat,
damn it, you're a Democrat. If you're a Republican, you're
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a Republican. And there's no in between. You're not going anywhere.
And even if your guy sucks, you're probably gonna stick
with him or just not show up and vote. That's
that's how they're looking at this. Okay, let me just
describe this for you so you understand. And I think
this is an important point to me here. You look
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at the new polling number that's out. There's a new
poll that came out says six and ten Americans who
wants the debate quote don't think Biden can complete another term.
I don't think. I can't believe that number isn't ten
out of ten. I mean four years from now, you
really think that guy and I'm not I don't mean
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this mean, I'm just being honest. Is gonna be around mentally?
Let's say it's around. Let's say's it alive like the
heart's beating. I don't want I don't wish anyone ill will,
but you can't tell me based on his cognitive decline
that he's going to be around mentally. A survey released
by Democratic pollsters BSG and It's provided to Salon found
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that people who watched last week's debate thought Donald Trump
de better than President Joe Biden by more than a
two to one margin, with six and ten responding saying
they don't think the incumbent is likely to finish a
second four year term in office, but like it. By
the way, there's no away in the private sector that
I heart would allow me to do a show if
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I sounded like Joe Biden. The president the other night.
There are checks and balances in the real world. Like
if you looked and sounded like Joe Biden the other
night in your job in the private sector, no one
would keep a job. You would be fired. So why
isn't Joe Biden getting fired by his own party? Because
the Democratic Party is psycho And that's why you still
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have six and ten right who say that means four
out of ten are saying no, no, no, I think
Joe Biden, we find I'll be able to finish the
next job. Like no one in the private sector could
ever get away with how bad he is doing the
job right now, much less four years from now. That's
part of the problem, same thing we talked about yesterday
with the Wanda Halbert. Like in the private sector, we
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wouldn't have been having the conversation we're having right now
about getting rid of her and her capacity, that she
sucks her job so bad that they're the state's having
to step in and now lawyer's having to step in.
But when you have worked in a government job, you
can get away with this crap. That's why some many
people love working in the government. There's like zero accountability.
It's virtually impossible to get rid of you, and being
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an elected official, you can keep a job far outside
of the time that you're useful. This is why I
refer to so many politicians as useful idiots. Now, the
poll found viewers of the debate evenly split the two
candates in the event of an election. See this is
where I go back to what I said, We've got
psychos that are tribal, that aren't going to put the
country first. A majority of the five hundred and nine
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People's survey said they found the rematch frightening fifty six
percent and sixty three percent referred to it as depressing.
Some of the forty one percent of the respondents said
the debate made them less likely to vote for Biden.
Just thirty percent said that for Trump, so eleven percent
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difference there. In other words, you can lose an election
by your own team not showing up. Okay, say again,
you can lose all right, you can't. You can lose
an election by your own team not showing up to
vote for you. And I think that's very much now
where Joe Biden has got to convince Democrats. No, no,
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at the end of the day, they hate Donald Trump,
so much that they are going to show up represented.
Mike Quinley just went on CNN a moment ago, and
it says under the on the bottom, it says debate fallout.
Biden campaign tries to reassure Democrats they're not going anywhere.
Listen to congressman quickly and what he said, he's a
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congressman out of Chicago.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Is President Biden's scotta, says the person at the top
of the ticket endangering Democratic hopes of keeping or regaining
control of congresspending on the respective chamber.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Let me put it in this perspective. If I were
to talk to the President today, I would advise him
that the decision he has to make now is clearly
only his. And as much as I greatly respect him
and appreciate the extraordinary job, I think his four years
are one of the great presidencies of our lifetime. But
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I think he has to be honest with himself.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
This is a.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Decision he's going to have to make. He clearly has
to understand. I think what you're getting to here is
that his decision not only impacts who's going to serve
in the White House the next four years, but who's
going to serve in the Senate, who's going to serve
in the House, and it will have implications for decades
to come.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It sounds like you're actually open to the idea that
it might be the right decision for him to step aside.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I think what I'm stressing is it has to be
his decision, but we have to be honest with ourselves
that it wasn't just a horrible night. But I won't
go beyond that out of my respect and understanding President
Joe Biah, I'm very proud person who has served us
extraordinarily well for fifty years. But it's his decision. I
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just want him to appreciate at this time just how
much it impacts not just his race, but at all
the other races coming in November.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
All Right, So there you have it. The congressman there,
Biden has to be honest with himself. He has to
understand it wasn't just a horrible night. Okay, wasn't just
a horrible night. It was a disaster. Guys. I'm not
gonna lie to you. I have never seen something so
orchestrated in my entire life by the Democratic Party. This morning,
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they are on every ounce of TV, and it is
one interview after another after another after another, calling an
essence for Joe Biden to step down. Joe Biden, step down,
Joe Biden's step down, like they are putting on a
full court press after the Biden family comes out and
is blaming his advisors for the debate debacle and not
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saying that he's incapacitated. Democratic Senator white House just went
on CNN, I'm going to play this for you, but
he said he's quote horrified they're upping their rhetoric. Now
horrified by the debate. He is quote urging Biden's team
to be candid about the president and the presidency. Listen.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Twelve News is your local election headquarters with exclusive local
reaction to President Biden's disastrous debate. Biden and his aias
have spent recent days working furiously to calm down panic
Democrats and insisting the president will not bow out of
the race. Twelve Views Politics.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Senator Tedniese caught off with two top Rhode Island Democrats
on Monday to ask what they think should happen next.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and Congressman gave Amo. Don't dispute that
Thursday was a bad night for Democrats, but for now,
they're still standing behind President Biden in his bid for reelection.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
If we finally beat Medicare.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Tens of millions of Americans watched Thursday night as President
Biden struggled through the first televised presidential debate, sending shockwaves
through the Democratic Party. A CBS News pull over the
weekend showed the share of voters who think Biden does
not have the mental and cognitive health to serve as
president jumped from sixty five percent to seventy two percent.
Your honest reaction to the debate.
Speaker 10 (17:20):
I think, like a lot of people, I was pretty horrified.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
Rhode Island US Senator Sheldon Whitehouse tells twelve News Democrats
remain united about the need to defeat former President Donald Trump,
but they're looking for reassurance from Biden and his team.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
Well. I think people want to make sure that this
is a campaign that's ready to go and win, that
the president and his team are being candid with us
about his condition, that this was a real anomaly and
not just the way he.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Is these days. I was disappointed, like a lot of
other people, but I have to keep working.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Congressman Gabamo used to work in the Biden administration. He
spent this past weekend campaigning for the president in New Hampshire.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
I think people are a genuine concern and that's okay.
We should be honest with people, we should be transparent
with people. But at the same time, everybody knows how
high the stakes.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Are beyond the campaign. The debate also raised questions about
Biden's ability to serve as president. Now, were you taken
Aback as someone who gets to see him up close
once in a while, and like most.
Speaker 10 (18:19):
Of us, yeah, I've never seen that happen before.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
So this was not how you guys all knew. Behind
the scenes, He's like.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
This, no, no, no, of that.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
This was a surprise.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Locally, there have been scattered calls for Biden to drop
out from people like former congressional candidate Aaron Regenberg and
Providence City councilor Justin Royes, but most in the party
are only discussing their concerns privately. Ted NACI twelve News, I.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Mean this is on the local news. Listen to the
very first line from this local news. Okay, I'm going
to go back to it. Just listen before they give you.
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse acknowledging that this was a quote I
think a lot of people. I think like a lot
of people. I was pretty horrified by the debate. But
listen to how the local news described the debate.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Twelve News is your local election headquarters with exclusive local
reaction to President Biden's disastrous debate.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Disastrous debate. Now, if the local news is reporting it
this way, and this is a local ABC news station,
you don't think that's coming from the top down where
they're saying, yeah, let's go all in to really try
to push this guy out. Even on MSNBC this morning,
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sam Stein, Democrat was on there and Merca whatever the
hell her name is the other hosts, you know, the
chick that's on there. She had an audible sigh after
he floated Kamala Harris replacing Joe Biden. They don't want
her either, And this was on air.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Listen, Okay, And so then we go, sam Stein to
let's take Richard's concept, which I completely disagree with, to
let's hash it out like exactly. Then what happens. We
go with someone completely untested, completely inexperienced, because they seem cool,
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because they're younger, because they have less experience.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
Like, what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm just not willing to walk away from someone who
has worked this hard and has performed this well and
gotten this much done on every level, more than any
president before him, including the ones Richard hass worked for.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
Right. Well, there is a sort of semi middle ground here, right,
which is Kamala Harris. She's been vetted, she's the vice president.
She would inherit the campaign and infrastructure. She would inherit
the money, whereas anyone else in this hypothetically nurse could not.
She would be the logical person to take on the mantle.
And on top of that, she has some experience debating
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Republicans at this level, including making the case against dal Trump. Right,
that would be the logical extension here. I agree with
you the other ones they are untested, with a big
side there on on air. A lot of the other
ones are untested, and that would be problematic in its
own rights. But look, I think this ultimately comes back
to Biden and Richard's points valid, which is Joe Biden
was the one who said to the standard himself, right,
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every time that there was questions about at the agent vitality,
his response was, watch me right. That was his response.
We watched him on Thursday night. I think we around
the table agree he did not pass the test that
he set himself. I will say this, there is some
indication of what it would you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Know, take I love this she I mean audible sigh
on the air like Kamala Harris. Are you kidding me?
You want to go with Kamala Harris? Kamala Harris, give
me a break, Scott Fitzgerald this morning. The question I
get from constituents is who's in charge now at the
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White House? Listen.
Speaker 13 (22:02):
So there's two There's two lines here that I'm asking about.
First Off, Biden clearly is saying he's not getting out
of the race. And then a Republican is telling Fox's digital, hey,
be careful, Republicans. You want Biden to stay in the
race because he's weak and he'll be beaten in November.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Right.
Speaker 14 (22:19):
One is that I'm not the first sort to make
this point. I think is that for them to switch
out Biden for some other option at this point would
admit to the American public that he's not up to
the job right now, and this world is way too
dangerous to have somebody in the White House in the
executive branch that isn't up to the task of running
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this country right now. And I got to be honest
with you, and I'm in the district. I did a
lot of events this weekend. The one question I get
from constituents all the time is who is running the joint?
Who is in charge at the White House right now?
And I think before when Robert Klein was there, we
all knew the chief of staff was running the joint.
We have no idea what's going on over there right now,
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and that should be make everyone uneasy. On the other front,
I think that you know, going into this convention in Chicago,
I think, quite honestly, there's still a lot of internal
discussions as to whether or not a very very weak
Joe Biden, which we're seeing in the polling already, is
going to drag down members of the House in these
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marginal districts, and the US Senate would absolutely be lost
if things remade the same as they do today. That's
when you're going to see people pushing the panic button.
If they lose control of both the House and the Senate.
And then Donald Trump is the next president, we are
going to be able to fix his country, but not
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the way the Democrats want to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I mean, the question I got from the continguents is
who's in charge the White House?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think that's the question everyone is asking. Biden twenty
campaign advisor trying to go back on offense and saying
that senior advisers saying President Biden is quote considering a
high profile interview to address the health concerns.
Speaker 14 (24:12):
For more secure and let the public see what they
can see with their own eyes.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
Do actually, I mean, you worked on on Biden's twenty
twenty campaign, you worked communications for Vice President Harris. The
difference between Biden and twenty twenty debates and this last
one is obvious. How can the president reassure people who
watched him with pain and fear on that debate stage.
Speaker 15 (24:33):
I mean, I think he actually did it on Friday.
I think he actually doubled down on it tonight.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
But here's the teleprompters.
Speaker 15 (24:40):
No, absolutely they are. But you know he still looks
strong and with it even on those teleprompters. And you
know there are times in which many liketed officials, even
former President Trump, has not looked strong on a teleprompter.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That.
Speaker 15 (24:52):
I think that is that's being lost, and I'd like
to go back to what Ax said, and that is
Trump also reinforced the negatives about him. You know, he
had none of the challenges that Joe Biden did, but
still also underperformed. He you know, he didn't raise nearly
as much money, six million dollars short of what Joe
Biden raised during the actual debate.
Speaker 11 (25:14):
Joe Biden's raised.
Speaker 15 (25:15):
Thirty three million dollars. Since that point. The push pulls
show that independence and new Nicky Hayley voters didn't like
his response to January sixth, didn't like the fact that
he lacked substance and lacked a vision. In addition to that,
you know, they also felt like they couldn't trust Donald Trump,
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so he actually didn't do himself any favors either, And
I think that's a narrative that's also being lost in
all of this discussion about President Biden.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I love this, right, They're like, no, no, no, it's
really bad. Somehow Donald Trump had a bad night. Okay, sure,
you keep telling yourself that forty one percent of Democrats
say they do not want Joe Biden to continue on
all right, Fetterman, Remember that guy Fetterman, the guy that
was like completely incapacitated when he was running for the Senate.
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Yet Democrats still put him into the Senate and now
he's actually gotten a lot better. He had that stroke. Yeah,
he was on CNN and was asked about Joe Biden,
and I want you to hear Fetterman's advice to Joe Biden.
Speaker 16 (26:21):
Express concern about President Biden's mental and cognitive health before
the debate. Now it is seventy two percent, so there
was already concern before. And you mentioned the polling. You
know that you were going to lose any one. You know,
it should be noted for our viewers to remind our
viewers that you you had a tough debate, right, you
had had a stroke and so forth. And I wonder
if your personal experience of voter is being able to
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look past what you went through, if that is kind
of giving you more compassion for President Biden in this case.
Speaker 17 (26:51):
Well, here's here's things that's true. Joe Biden has been
a great president. You know, Joe Biden. She beat Trump
in twenty twenty. And that last conversation you had last segment,
you were talking about all the legal kinds of problems.
You know, I'm not really worried about that ruling today.
I'm not actually surprised by it given the makeup of
the Supreme Court. But stop, you know, don't elect you know, criminals,
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and then it's not really sad issue you have to
be worried about, and you don't have to worry about
with It's Joe Biden, and Joe Biden is our guy,
and it's going to be a stark choice. You have
Joe Biden or Donald Trump. It's going to be close.
I've been saying that same thing for the last eight years,
you know, Trump or Clinton, Trump Biden in twenty twenty,
or the same thing again in twenty four. It's going
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to be close. And I do believe Joe Biden is
going to win. And like I said, it's not going
to be easy. But I don't understand why there's other
Democrats losing their minds over this. And this it's one
debate does not define anyone. As I said, my own
personal experience have proven that's just not appropriate.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Right.
Speaker 16 (27:58):
We should note, though, there is a difference between you know,
a man in Assippi's as you were suffering from a
health issue which voters have an expectation he would recover
from versus age. In this situation with President Biden, he
would be eighty two if he were to be reelected
eighty six at the end of that another four years.
And you have people like Democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin saying
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there have been very honest and serious conversations happening within
the Democratic Party following Biden's debate performance. What do you
know about those conversations. Do you think those conversations should
be happening.
Speaker 17 (28:33):
I'm a gigantic fan of a representative Raskin, just in
that situation, I don't necessarily agree with some of those
views on that. You know, I have disagreed with Joe
Biden often, whether it was the Israel war or whether
that is with the border I made that that's a rage.
That's a major issue here. And just if I didn't
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believe exactly what I'm saying right now, I wouldn't be
on your show right now talking about that. Let me
just say this too. If you think you're a friend
of the president there that you're you know, you don't
say that you know on national television, or you don't
put that in the nation's biggest paper. You reach out
in private, but if Joe Biden doesn't call you up
(29:15):
and ask your opinion, you know, then maybe you're not
the kind of close friend that you might think you are.
But Joe Biden has the right and he's earned that
right to have his support, and he's been a great
president throughout all that. I'll would take Joe Biden any
day over the kind of a terrible president who's now
demonstrated he's immune to all the criminal behavior that he
(29:37):
is now up to.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Trial for now.
Speaker 17 (29:40):
But it comes down to that choice that we have
right now in November. Whose side are you chaos and
revenge or a good president who's done a good job
and it's going to take our nation in the right direction,
all right.
Speaker 16 (29:53):
Santra John Fetterman, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Wow Fetterman, the guy who was in pascitated when he
ran is now giving advising. I think if you're a
friend of Biden, you don't say things on TV. You
reach out in private, and if Joe Biden doesn't call
you up and ask your opinion, then maybe you're not
the kind of close friend that you thought.
Speaker 17 (30:13):
You might be.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, I've never liked a guy. I mean this. I
was rooting for his health to come back, obviously, but
I've never rooted for a guy more than Fetterman as
a Democrat because he says so many things like this. Also,
Biden campaign chair just coming out. Listen to this on
a Biden donors conference call. It's only fourteen seconds long,
(30:37):
but the Biden campaign is having a new push to
reassure voters.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Listen campaign officials addressing hundreds of donors on a conference
call last night.
Speaker 17 (30:46):
The audio obtained by NBC News from someone who was
on the call.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
In the media has spent.
Speaker 12 (30:51):
A ton of time blowing this out.
Speaker 13 (30:53):
Of proportion, and he's probably in better health than most
of us.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
That's their line. The media has spent there are too
much time blowing this out of proportion. He's in far
better health than most of us. Yeah, he's probably in
better health than most of us. Really, because if that's
what health looks like, Jesus, please take the will and
take me now, don't forget. Share this podcast wherever you
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He ain't going anywhere. That is the word that we
are getting this morning about the President of the United
States of America making it very clear that he is
not dropping out of the race. Here is what Simone
Sanders is saying about all of this and the concerns
they now have.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Simone Sanders, what are you hearing?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Look what I'm hearing from? Well, it depends on who
we're talking to make it to be honest, when you
talk to strategists and operatives, not folks that work for
the Biden campaign or in the White House, but outside
of that elected officials, right the political professionals, donors, they
are echoing some of the same things that Eugene has
(00:43):
noted in his piece that we're all hearing that they
are concerned, that they want to hear more from the
White House, that they want to see the president do
a town hall, do more interviews, they want to see
him more. But then when I talk to non political professionals,
if you will, as I like to say, every day,
regular folks who don't do this every day, they look
at this and say, in Melissa MraY and I talked
(01:05):
to black women in Montgomery County just this weekend on Sunday,
and they all said, I asked, we asked him about
the debate. They said the debate, they it wasn't good
for Trump or Joe Biden. But the women who were
supportive of the president in that room said, look at
this point, we can't get anyone else. There was someone
that noted, we should stand by our guy. There was
(01:26):
someone else that noted, how realistic is this talk of
removing him? And they were more concerned with the broader picture.
And they also, unprompted, brought up democracy and the Supreme Court.
So I would just argue that the best way for
the Biden campaign to really they won't be able to
stop the talk because the chatter is going to continue,
(01:46):
because every single thing that the president does between now
and November is going to be parsed every single which way.
If he if he stumbles walking, if he walks a
little too slow, if he walks a little too fast,
you know, if he forgets a word, every single thing
is going to be a view through the prison of
what happened on that debate stage. So the chatter will
not end. But I think a way to really blunt
some of the criticism is in fact too you know,
(02:09):
let the president put the president out there in various
ways in which that you know he will shine. And again,
I think town halls, doing things with voters, real people,
where he is answering questions from regular folks, will make
the difference. And I do think the President could right
to that occasion. And I will just lastly say that
I think we have all heard chatter inside. And I
(02:31):
was struck by that Washington Post reporting about concerns that
folks said that they had about the president's health. The
last time I saw the president, he seemed and looked
fine to me. But yes, on that debate stage, it
was not a good performance. And so the only way
to assuage people's concerns is to let them see for themselves.
And Joe Biden, I believe, thinks that he is his
(02:52):
best political consultant. And I'm interested to see what the
President decides to do this week.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So now, if you are talking about the president's health,
it's more that you are quote concerned, You just have concerns.
You are concerned, You're very concerned. It's not about the country,
it's about him personally. That's how they're spinning this now.
Simone Sanders who, by the way, used to work for
this president in this White House and the first lady.
(03:23):
I think it's pretty obvious from what she just said
there she is not that concerned with the president. She's
ready for him to move on. Let me say that again.
She's ready for him to move on. She's ready to say,
let's go to the next thing, whatever that next thing is.
(03:43):
She's ready to go to that next thing. This is
not shocking, I want to be clear about that. But
the way that she articulated it, I also think is
important because they're not giving in yet to replacing Joe Biden.
(04:04):
They're not rallying behind Joe Biden the way that she
just described it. And I think that's a pretty obvious
point that that she's making, like, Hey, I'm I'm not
I'm not giving in here to trying to force him
out the door. They understand how big of a liability
he is, and they understand not just what a liability
(04:29):
that he is, but I think they also understand that
this is a moment where they can't just say, Okay,
he's gonna stay, so we're gonna accept it. We've got
to figure out some sort of Jedi mind trick to
convince him, We're just concerned about your health. Like it's
really just your health. That's all it is. It is
(04:52):
just your health. We're just worried, We're just concerned. We
just want you to be healthy. We're just trying. I mean,
I mean the rhetoric there was next level pr and
and if you are the president, units it's America and
you're watching this happened in real time, I would think
(05:13):
you would feel very much like you are under attack.
There was a Washington Post op ed by Eugene Robinson
and it was entitled This Morning, Biden's twenty twenty four
survival requires a lot more than hope. Now, they always
go back to motions of hope and change, right, Like
that's how Democrats now get elected. They don't actually tell
(05:35):
you they're going to do anything specifically. They just give
you these Kumbaya moments. I want you to listen to
Eugene Robinson and what he said on MSNBC about the president.
His assessment after writing this op ed for the Washington
Post that Biden's twenty twenty four survival requires a lot
more than just hope.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, look, I think he needs to do everything he
can to reverse the the impression, the clear impression that
was that was left by that debate five days ago,
that debate on Thursday. Because you know, I have I've
been coming on the show for a long time. I
am a longtime critic of Democratic bed wedding. I don't
(06:18):
you know, I think it's it's crazy A lot of
the time. I think this is different. I think a
lot of Democrats were shocked by what they saw Thursday night,
and I think this this sort of hunkering down and saying,
you know, nothing to say, nothing to see here. You know,
(06:40):
the polling is unchanged. They set out that memo over
the over the weekend saying the polling is unchanged. So
it didn't really hurt us, but that's internal polling focusing
on the swing states that actually shows him trailing Donald
Trump by a slight margin, uh you know, within the
(07:01):
margin of error. But nonetheless it shows him behind Trump
in these states. And so sending out a memo saying, look,
we're still behind, but we're not behind any worse is
not exactly the best ad for for your campaign. And
so why, you know, why isn't he calling Schumer and
(07:22):
Jeffries and why isn't he doing some sort of unscripted
appearance that shows that that erases the oppression that was
very clearly left Thursday night. I think this is this
is potentially a really big problem for the Democratic Party,
(07:44):
for Biden's reelection campaign. And I think, you know, I
think Democrats are our right to send up the alarm.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I think Democrats are right to send the arm. This
is again nine one one. This is a nine to
one one plea, as it was described by him, You've
got to do things differently to assure people you're okay.
You're not doing any of them, probably because you're incapable
or incapacitated from doing it. And so that's on you, right, Like,
(08:15):
that's straight up on you. I'm sorry. I look at
this and hear what he's saying, and looking at the
White House, there is a civil war that is not brewing.
It is an all out war now, all out war
between the Democratic Party. Many of those are running for
(08:37):
election right now are very very very very very concerned
that he is going to drag down the ticket. Now
they're going to point to that polling that was just mentioned. Wow,
the polls are unchanged. Look, I'm actually not surprised that
the polls are changed because even if you hate even
if you hate Donald Trump and you can't stand what
(08:59):
Joe Biden did the other night, I am still not
sure that you're going to change your vote if you
think that he is a total disaster, okay, like like
a complete and utter disaster. Are you going to switch
your vote to Donald Trump? I don't think you are.
(09:21):
We are a tribal country right now. You're a Democrat
or you're a Republican. There's really no in between. You're
one and or the other. There is no in between.
I said a moment ago that we are tribal, right,
we are just so tribal, and we are. We are
incredibly tribal. And and that means if you're a Democrat,
damn it, you're a Democrat. If you're a Republican, you're
(09:41):
a Republican. And there's no in between. You're not going anywhere.
And even if your guy sucks, you're probably gonna stick
with him or just not show up and vote. That's
that's how they're looking at this. Okay, let me just
describe this for you so you understand. And I think
this is an important point to me here. You look
(10:01):
at the new polling number that's out. There's a new
poll that came out says six and ten Americans who
wants the debate quote don't think Biden can complete another term.
I don't think. I can't believe that number isn't ten
out of ten. I mean four years from now, you
really think that guy and I'm not I don't mean
(10:22):
this mean, I'm just being honest. Is gonna be around mentally?
Let's say it's around. Let's say's it alive like the
heart's beating. I don't want I don't wish anyone ill will,
but you can't tell me based on his cognitive decline
that he's going to be around mentally. A survey released
by Democratic pollsters BSG and It's provided to Salon found
(10:44):
that people who watched last week's debate thought Donald Trump
de better than President Joe Biden by more than a
two to one margin, with six and ten responding saying
they don't think the incumbent is likely to finish a
second four year term in office, but like it. By
the way, there's no away in the private sector that
I heart would allow me to do a show if
(11:04):
I sounded like Joe Biden. The president the other night.
There are checks and balances in the real world. Like
if you looked and sounded like Joe Biden the other
night in your job in the private sector, no one
would keep a job. You would be fired. So why
isn't Joe Biden getting fired by his own party? Because
the Democratic Party is psycho And that's why you still
(11:26):
have six and ten right who say that means four
out of ten are saying no, no, no, I think
Joe Biden, we find I'll be able to finish the
next job. Like no one in the private sector could
ever get away with how bad he is doing the
job right now, much less four years from now. That's
part of the problem, same thing we talked about yesterday
with the Wanda Halbert. Like in the private sector, we
(11:49):
wouldn't have been having the conversation we're having right now
about getting rid of her and her capacity, that she
sucks her job so bad that they're the state's having
to step in and now lawyer's having to step in.
But when you have worked in a government job, you
can get away with this crap. That's why some many
people love working in the government. There's like zero accountability.
It's virtually impossible to get rid of you, and being
(12:09):
an elected official, you can keep a job far outside
of the time that you're useful. This is why I
refer to so many politicians as useful idiots. Now, the
poll found viewers of the debate evenly split the two
candates in the event of an election. See this is
where I go back to what I said, We've got
psychos that are tribal, that aren't going to put the
country first. A majority of the five hundred and nine
(12:31):
People's survey said they found the rematch frightening fifty six
percent and sixty three percent referred to it as depressing.
Some of the forty one percent of the respondents said
the debate made them less likely to vote for Biden.
Just thirty percent said that for Trump, so eleven percent
(12:52):
difference there. In other words, you can lose an election
by your own team not showing up. Okay, say again,
you can lose all right, you can't. You can lose
an election by your own team not showing up to
vote for you. And I think that's very much now
where Joe Biden has got to convince Democrats. No, no,
(13:15):
at the end of the day, they hate Donald Trump,
so much that they are going to show up represented.
Mike Quinley just went on CNN a moment ago, and
it says under the on the bottom, it says debate fallout.
Biden campaign tries to reassure Democrats they're not going anywhere.
Listen to congressman quickly and what he said, he's a
(13:37):
congressman out of Chicago.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Is President Biden's scotta, says the person at the top
of the ticket endangering Democratic hopes of keeping or regaining
control of congresspending on the respective chamber.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Let me put it in this perspective. If I were
to talk to the President today, I would advise him
that the decision he has to make now is clearly
only his. And as much as I greatly respect him
and appreciate the extraordinary job, I think his four years
are one of the great presidencies of our lifetime. But
(14:15):
I think he has to be honest with himself.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
This is a.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Decision he's going to have to make. He clearly has
to understand. I think what you're getting to here is
that his decision not only impacts who's going to serve
in the White House the next four years, but who's
going to serve in the Senate, who's going to serve
in the House, and it will have implications for decades
to come.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It sounds like you're actually open to the idea that
it might be the right decision for him to step aside.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I think what I'm stressing is it has to be
his decision, but we have to be honest with ourselves
that it wasn't just a horrible night. But I won't
go beyond that out of my respect and understanding President
Joe Biah, I'm very proud person who has served us
extraordinarily well for fifty years. But it's his decision. I
(15:07):
just want him to appreciate at this time just how
much it impacts not just his race, but at all
the other races coming in November.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
All Right, So there you have it. The congressman there,
Biden has to be honest with himself. He has to
understand it wasn't just a horrible night. Okay, wasn't just
a horrible night. It was a disaster. Guys. I'm not
gonna lie to you. I have never seen something so
orchestrated in my entire life by the Democratic Party. This morning,
(15:38):
they are on every ounce of TV, and it is
one interview after another after another after another, calling an
essence for Joe Biden to step down. Joe Biden, step down,
Joe Biden's step down, like they are putting on a
full court press after the Biden family comes out and
is blaming his advisors for the debate debacle and not
(16:01):
saying that he's incapacitated. Democratic Senator white House just went
on CNN, I'm going to play this for you, but
he said he's quote horrified they're upping their rhetoric. Now
horrified by the debate. He is quote urging Biden's team
to be candid about the president and the presidency. Listen.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Twelve News is your local election headquarters with exclusive local
reaction to President Biden's disastrous debate. Biden and his aias
have spent recent days working furiously to calm down panic
Democrats and insisting the president will not bow out of
the race. Twelve Views Politics.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Senator Tedniese caught off with two top Rhode Island Democrats
on Monday to ask what they think should happen next.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and Congressman gave Amo. Don't dispute that
Thursday was a bad night for Democrats, but for now,
they're still standing behind President Biden in his bid for reelection.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
If we finally beat Medicare.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Tens of millions of Americans watched Thursday night as President
Biden struggled through the first televised presidential debate, sending shockwaves
through the Democratic Party. A CBS News pull over the
weekend showed the share of voters who think Biden does
not have the mental and cognitive health to serve as
president jumped from sixty five percent to seventy two percent.
Your honest reaction to the debate.
Speaker 10 (17:20):
I think, like a lot of people, I was pretty horrified.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
Rhode Island US Senator Sheldon Whitehouse tells twelve News Democrats
remain united about the need to defeat former President Donald Trump,
but they're looking for reassurance from Biden and his team.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
Well. I think people want to make sure that this
is a campaign that's ready to go and win, that
the president and his team are being candid with us
about his condition, that this was a real anomaly and
not just the way he.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Is these days. I was disappointed, like a lot of
other people, but I have to keep working.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Congressman Gabamo used to work in the Biden administration. He
spent this past weekend campaigning for the president in New Hampshire.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
I think people are a genuine concern and that's okay.
We should be honest with people, we should be transparent
with people. But at the same time, everybody knows how
high the stakes.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Are beyond the campaign. The debate also raised questions about
Biden's ability to serve as president. Now, were you taken
Aback as someone who gets to see him up close
once in a while, and like most.
Speaker 10 (18:19):
Of us, yeah, I've never seen that happen before.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
So this was not how you guys all knew. Behind
the scenes, He's like.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
This, no, no, no, of that.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
This was a surprise.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Locally, there have been scattered calls for Biden to drop
out from people like former congressional candidate Aaron Regenberg and
Providence City councilor Justin Royes, but most in the party
are only discussing their concerns privately. Ted NACI twelve News, I.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Mean this is on the local news. Listen to the
very first line from this local news. Okay, I'm going
to go back to it. Just listen before they give you.
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse acknowledging that this was a quote I
think a lot of people. I think like a lot
of people. I was pretty horrified by the debate. But
listen to how the local news described the debate.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Twelve News is your local election headquarters with exclusive local
reaction to President Biden's disastrous debate.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Disastrous debate. Now, if the local news is reporting it
this way, and this is a local ABC news station,
you don't think that's coming from the top down where
they're saying, yeah, let's go all in to really try
to push this guy out. Even on MSNBC this morning,
(19:33):
sam Stein, Democrat was on there and Merca whatever the
hell her name is the other hosts, you know, the
chick that's on there. She had an audible sigh after
he floated Kamala Harris replacing Joe Biden. They don't want
her either, And this was on air.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Listen, Okay, And so then we go, sam Stein to
let's take Richard's concept, which I completely disagree with, to
let's hash it out like exactly. Then what happens. We
go with someone completely untested, completely inexperienced, because they seem cool,
(20:14):
because they're younger, because they have less experience.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
Like, what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm just not willing to walk away from someone who
has worked this hard and has performed this well and
gotten this much done on every level, more than any
president before him, including the ones Richard hass worked for.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
Right. Well, there is a sort of semi middle ground here, right,
which is Kamala Harris. She's been vetted, she's the vice president.
She would inherit the campaign and infrastructure. She would inherit
the money, whereas anyone else in this hypothetically nurse could not.
She would be the logical person to take on the mantle.
And on top of that, she has some experience debating
(21:01):
Republicans at this level, including making the case against dal Trump. Right,
that would be the logical extension here. I agree with
you the other ones they are untested, with a big
side there on on air. A lot of the other
ones are untested, and that would be problematic in its
own rights. But look, I think this ultimately comes back
to Biden and Richard's points valid, which is Joe Biden
was the one who said to the standard himself, right,
(21:22):
every time that there was questions about at the agent vitality,
his response was, watch me right. That was his response.
We watched him on Thursday night. I think we around
the table agree he did not pass the test that
he set himself. I will say this, there is some
indication of what it would you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Know, take I love this she I mean audible sigh
on the air like Kamala Harris. Are you kidding me?
You want to go with Kamala Harris? Kamala Harris, give
me a break, Scott Fitzgerald this morning. The question I
get from constituents is who's in charge now at the
(22:00):
White House? Listen.
Speaker 13 (22:02):
So there's two There's two lines here that I'm asking about.
First Off, Biden clearly is saying he's not getting out
of the race. And then a Republican is telling Fox's digital, hey,
be careful, Republicans. You want Biden to stay in the
race because he's weak and he'll be beaten in November.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Right.
Speaker 14 (22:19):
One is that I'm not the first sort to make
this point. I think is that for them to switch
out Biden for some other option at this point would
admit to the American public that he's not up to
the job right now, and this world is way too
dangerous to have somebody in the White House in the
executive branch that isn't up to the task of running
(22:42):
this country right now. And I got to be honest
with you, and I'm in the district. I did a
lot of events this weekend. The one question I get
from constituents all the time is who is running the joint?
Who is in charge at the White House right now?
And I think before when Robert Klein was there, we
all knew the chief of staff was running the joint.
We have no idea what's going on over there right now,
(23:03):
and that should be make everyone uneasy. On the other front,
I think that you know, going into this convention in Chicago,
I think, quite honestly, there's still a lot of internal
discussions as to whether or not a very very weak
Joe Biden, which we're seeing in the polling already, is
going to drag down members of the House in these
(23:25):
marginal districts, and the US Senate would absolutely be lost
if things remade the same as they do today. That's
when you're going to see people pushing the panic button.
If they lose control of both the House and the Senate.
And then Donald Trump is the next president, we are
going to be able to fix his country, but not
(23:46):
the way the Democrats want to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I mean, the question I got from the continguents is
who's in charge the White House?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think that's the question everyone is asking. Biden twenty
campaign advisor trying to go back on offense and saying
that senior advisers saying President Biden is quote considering a
high profile interview to address the health concerns.
Speaker 14 (24:12):
For more secure and let the public see what they
can see with their own eyes.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
Do actually, I mean, you worked on on Biden's twenty
twenty campaign, you worked communications for Vice President Harris. The
difference between Biden and twenty twenty debates and this last
one is obvious. How can the president reassure people who
watched him with pain and fear on that debate stage.
Speaker 15 (24:33):
I mean, I think he actually did it on Friday.
I think he actually doubled down on it tonight.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
But here's the teleprompters.
Speaker 15 (24:40):
No, absolutely they are. But you know he still looks
strong and with it even on those teleprompters. And you
know there are times in which many liketed officials, even
former President Trump, has not looked strong on a teleprompter.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That.
Speaker 15 (24:52):
I think that is that's being lost, and I'd like
to go back to what Ax said, and that is
Trump also reinforced the negatives about him. You know, he
had none of the challenges that Joe Biden did, but
still also underperformed. He you know, he didn't raise nearly
as much money, six million dollars short of what Joe
Biden raised during the actual debate.
Speaker 11 (25:14):
Joe Biden's raised.
Speaker 15 (25:15):
Thirty three million dollars. Since that point. The push pulls
show that independence and new Nicky Hayley voters didn't like
his response to January sixth, didn't like the fact that
he lacked substance and lacked a vision. In addition to that,
you know, they also felt like they couldn't trust Donald Trump,
(25:36):
so he actually didn't do himself any favors either, And
I think that's a narrative that's also being lost in
all of this discussion about President Biden.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I love this, right, They're like, no, no, no, it's
really bad. Somehow Donald Trump had a bad night. Okay, sure,
you keep telling yourself that forty one percent of Democrats
say they do not want Joe Biden to continue on
all right, Fetterman, Remember that guy Fetterman, the guy that
was like completely incapacitated when he was running for the Senate.
(26:06):
Yet Democrats still put him into the Senate and now
he's actually gotten a lot better. He had that stroke. Yeah,
he was on CNN and was asked about Joe Biden,
and I want you to hear Fetterman's advice to Joe Biden.
Speaker 16 (26:21):
Express concern about President Biden's mental and cognitive health before
the debate. Now it is seventy two percent, so there
was already concern before. And you mentioned the polling. You
know that you were going to lose any one. You know,
it should be noted for our viewers to remind our
viewers that you you had a tough debate, right, you
had had a stroke and so forth. And I wonder
if your personal experience of voter is being able to
(26:44):
look past what you went through, if that is kind
of giving you more compassion for President Biden in this case.
Speaker 17 (26:51):
Well, here's here's things that's true. Joe Biden has been
a great president. You know, Joe Biden. She beat Trump
in twenty twenty. And that last conversation you had last segment,
you were talking about all the legal kinds of problems.
You know, I'm not really worried about that ruling today.
I'm not actually surprised by it given the makeup of
the Supreme Court. But stop, you know, don't elect you know, criminals,
(27:14):
and then it's not really sad issue you have to
be worried about, and you don't have to worry about
with It's Joe Biden, and Joe Biden is our guy,
and it's going to be a stark choice. You have
Joe Biden or Donald Trump. It's going to be close.
I've been saying that same thing for the last eight years,
you know, Trump or Clinton, Trump Biden in twenty twenty,
or the same thing again in twenty four. It's going
(27:36):
to be close. And I do believe Joe Biden is
going to win. And like I said, it's not going
to be easy. But I don't understand why there's other
Democrats losing their minds over this. And this it's one
debate does not define anyone. As I said, my own
personal experience have proven that's just not appropriate.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Right.
Speaker 16 (27:58):
We should note, though, there is a difference between you know,
a man in Assippi's as you were suffering from a
health issue which voters have an expectation he would recover
from versus age. In this situation with President Biden, he
would be eighty two if he were to be reelected
eighty six at the end of that another four years.
And you have people like Democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin saying
(28:20):
there have been very honest and serious conversations happening within
the Democratic Party following Biden's debate performance. What do you
know about those conversations. Do you think those conversations should
be happening.
Speaker 17 (28:33):
I'm a gigantic fan of a representative Raskin, just in
that situation, I don't necessarily agree with some of those
views on that. You know, I have disagreed with Joe
Biden often, whether it was the Israel war or whether
that is with the border I made that that's a rage.
That's a major issue here. And just if I didn't
(28:54):
believe exactly what I'm saying right now, I wouldn't be
on your show right now talking about that. Let me
just say this too. If you think you're a friend
of the president there that you're you know, you don't
say that you know on national television, or you don't
put that in the nation's biggest paper. You reach out
in private, but if Joe Biden doesn't call you up
(29:15):
and ask your opinion, you know, then maybe you're not
the kind of close friend that you might think you are.
But Joe Biden has the right and he's earned that
right to have his support, and he's been a great
president throughout all that. I'll would take Joe Biden any
day over the kind of a terrible president who's now
demonstrated he's immune to all the criminal behavior that he
(29:37):
is now up to.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Trial for now.
Speaker 17 (29:40):
But it comes down to that choice that we have
right now in November. Whose side are you chaos and
revenge or a good president who's done a good job
and it's going to take our nation in the right direction,
all right.
Speaker 16 (29:53):
Santra John Fetterman, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Wow Fetterman, the guy who was in pascitated when he
ran is now giving advising. I think if you're a
friend of Biden, you don't say things on TV. You
reach out in private, and if Joe Biden doesn't call
you up and ask your opinion, then maybe you're not
the kind of close friend that you thought.
Speaker 17 (30:13):
You might be.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, I've never liked a guy. I mean this. I
was rooting for his health to come back, obviously, but
I've never rooted for a guy more than Fetterman as
a Democrat because he says so many things like this. Also,
Biden campaign chair just coming out. Listen to this on
a Biden donors conference call. It's only fourteen seconds long,
(30:37):
but the Biden campaign is having a new push to
reassure voters.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Listen campaign officials addressing hundreds of donors on a conference
call last night.
Speaker 17 (30:46):
The audio obtained by NBC News from someone who was
on the call.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
In the media has spent.
Speaker 12 (30:51):
A ton of time blowing this out.
Speaker 13 (30:53):
Of proportion, and he's probably in better health than most
of us.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
That's their line. The media has spent there are too
much time blowing this out of proportion. He's in far
better health than most of us. Yeah, he's probably in
better health than most of us. Really, because if that's
what health looks like, Jesus, please take the will and
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