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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Donald Trump has come out and said something that is
very interesting, and the left is now criticizing. He said
on surviving the assassination attempt, he said.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That was from God.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Now Democrats and liberals mocking his faith in religion at
this hour, as the former president, Trump spoke about the
assassination attempt on his life at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania,
and he credit God for his survival. Many on the
left on social media immediately going to attack Christians and
attack people of faith, mocking the president. As he said

(00:36):
this during a rally in Atlanta, Trump described that Secret
Service agents who had protected him after that shooter opened
fired his rally on July thirteenth, as being brave as quote,
bullets were flying. Say what you want. He said these
about the Secret Service and everything that went down, and

(00:58):
he said, look, I survived that because of God.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Those people were brave. They were running to me and
the bullets were flying.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
The Secret Service, they were very bread, they were very brave.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I could say they were very brave.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
They were running at me and they knew the bullets
were going right over my head.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
At that point. The first one was not a.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Good situation, not a good situation that was really that
was really something incredible that was from God, that was
from God because the chances, yeah, that was no, that
was from God. For all of you non believers, that

(01:45):
one was for.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
God, right, Donald Trump saying at this Atlanta rally and
then the firestorm afterwards, Now I think this is a
really interesting point, he said, Trump outed, the first one
was not a good situation, not a good situation. That

(02:08):
was really something incredible that was from God. That was
from God because the chances, well, that was from God.
During this rally in Butler, that gunman who, as you know,
opened fire from that rooftop of a nearby building where
he had a direct line of sight of the former
president Trump was shot by that bullet that pierced the
upper part of his right ear. He turned his head

(02:29):
at the very last morning, Corey Comparato, a husband father
in Pennsylvania firefighter, was killed as he was trying to
shield his wife and daughter from those bullets. Two other men,
UH one seventy four another fifty seven were also injured
as a result of that assassination attempt on Trump. After

(02:50):
the assassination attempt, the former president issued a message thinking
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Why are democrats so obsessed with attacking people of faith?
And this is the point I want to take from

(04:56):
this moment. You have a president, a former president, that's
been shot. You have a gun and that try to
take him out. You had a chart that was put
up on the screen, and the present turned at the
very last moment to look at that chart. That obviously
was part of what saved his life. In fact, even
brought that young lady up on stage saying thank you

(05:17):
to her for putting that chart up, talking about how
important it was that that chart was put up on
the screen and how it saved his life.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
That was also he said, something happened. It was God.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
So why is it that the left hates Christians so
much that even when they give an incredible moment of
thanks to believing in people of faith, right of believing
in God, that they then want to attack and they
then want to mock you.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm going to be honest.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
This Democratic Party used to be a democratic party where
they did have many people in it that believed in God.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I think the.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Democratic Party now is so I've said this before, I'll
say it again. I believe that it's still with socialists,
Marxists and communists. It is really sad to see people
attack people of faith the way that the Left is
now attacking people of faith. It is incredibly sad to
me that we are now in a scenario, in a
situation where this is the new normal, that this is

(06:22):
what people now believe. They believe that it's okay to
attack people who give thanks to God to give things
to a higher being that give things to something that
they believe in. And you know, the Democratic Party used
to be obsessed with what they would refer to as
as you know, you must be tolerant right of everybody
else's belief It's the same people that say that men

(06:43):
can describe themselves as women, identify as women, and then
go win Olympic gold medal in boxing beating the hell
out of women.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
This is the party that claims that they are tolerant,
but the reality is they.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Are completely intolerant.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
They are completely intolerant of anyone who believes anything different
than they are. Their true ideology is an ideology that
their faith is in this radical agenda. That is their religion,
you know, the green alternative religion is what I call it,
this obsession with you know, mother Earth and this obsession

(07:22):
with everything must be green.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Right, It's like a.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Religion to them if you deal with radicals that believe
that you know, people for example, that are Jewish. And
this goes back to what we're witnessing now with the
attacks on people in that believe in the Jewish faith.
Many in the Democratic Party hate the Jews. They don't
stand with the people of Israel that we're attacked. They
stand with the terrorists, they stand with hamas Hesbla and Iran.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Why do they.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Hate the people of faith? Why do they hate the
Jewish people? I think it's all, honestly pretty clear. They
hate the people of the Jewish faith because they are
people of God. And it actually comes down to that,
it comes down to actually really simply just that. And

(08:12):
it's really, really, really sad that we are now in
a scenario, a situation where this erect election. And I
go back to the point I want to make it
the very beginning. I do believe this really this this
election is about good and evil. I believe it's about
people of faith against the against the faithless. I believe
that this is truly an election that is do you

(08:36):
stand on the side of good or do you stand
on the side of evil. And the Democratic Party and
what they're doing to you know, stand up and say that, oh,
men can beat the hell out of women at the Olympics,
or you can decide we want to make your kids
into these transgender kids. I believe this is evil and
look at the evil and the Democratic Party, and I'm
just going to call it out. I'm not going to
sugarcoat it. There are many forces within the Democratic Party

(09:00):
that are pure evil. And when you mock Christians the
way they openly mock Christians, and you mock Trump forgiving
thanks to God and every person of faith, and you
mock them this way, I'm sorry. This is a religious
war of good and evil right now, the solace against

(09:22):
those believing God, and we should not forget that going
into this election because they hate Christians. I want to
turn now to the big obsession right now of the
Democratic Party, and that is Kamala Harris and who she's
going to pick is her running mate. She did her

(09:42):
quote final round of interviews and that was like a
big deal, right, And now the New York Times is
reporting that Harris is facing quote party divisions as she's
choosing her running mate. Right, do you choose a white
guy or do you choose a minority? Or do you
choose a black guy or a black woman? But then
you need a black woman because now you identify as

(10:03):
a black woman even though you're not a black woman,
and you've lied about who you are. And so the
quote this is again coming from I'm going to read
this to you from.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
The New York Times.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
The competitive, divisive primary that many Democrats long wanted to
avoid has arrived anyway, playing out largely behind closed doors,
and they fight over the bottom of the ticket. The
final staves of the campaign to be the vice president
to Kamala Harris Well has reached something of an ugly
phase in recent days, as donors, interest groups, and political
rivals from the party's moderate and progressive wings are lobbying

(10:38):
and demanding for their preferred candidates and passed around memos
debating the contender's political weakness with key demographics. They turn
most sharply on one of the favorites to join the ticket.
That would be Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who has drawn
opposition from progressives and even a Ciner in his state. Now,

(11:00):
let me explain why Josh Shapiro is a smart choice
on paper. All right, I'm not I'm taking off my
I'm a conservative hat. I'm just giving you pure political
analysis here. If I was running the Hairs campaign, I
would be running to Shapiro because Democrats have to win Pennsylvania.
If they don't win, if Kama Harris doesn't win Pennsylvania,

(11:23):
the electoral college map math doesn't make sense. It's virtually
impossible for her to win the number that she needs
to get to to secure the nomination and beat Donald J.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So if you're smart, you look at Pennsylvania, go we
gotta win it. Shapiro is well liked in Pennsylvania. He's
more of a moderate, you know, just safe white guy pick.
We could use that. The country will like it. Kama
can then go kind of more progressive and be more
of who she is as kind of a radical, and

(11:56):
this will just be a smart thing for us. That
is why the progressives are losing their mind right, because
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Democrats are engaged in a big internal fight. The three
leading contenders that most believe in the Democratic side are

(14:32):
are Shapiro than Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona. They like
Kelly because he's kind of more of a oh celebrity
asque kind of candidate. He's easy on the eyes, he's
done a lot of cool stuff with space and an astronaut,
and he understands kind of the movie star aspect of
running for office. Then there's also Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz.

(14:55):
They've all met with Harris at her residence in Washington
on Sunday before a decision that her campaign said would
be announced on Tuesday. Right, so this is a big
deal for every Democrat. Tuesday's d Day and now what
do we do to fight back to get our person.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And how do we screw the other one? Now?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
A spokesman for the Harris campaign decline to comment on
the meetings, But what we do know is that Harris
has said that the campaign trail quote with her running mate.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Later this week.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
They're kicking off a five day, seven state tour with
a Tuesday rally in Philadelphia, where Shapiro is expected to
be in attendance. Whether he is her pick or not,
they claim, Now, I think reading into the tea leaves
here that it's probably going to be Shapiro, because why
would you not do that? Why would you not pick
him if you're going to be in Philadelphia? All right, Now,

(15:49):
that's just my opinion. But again, you're not talking with
about logical people here. You're talking about radicals that are
controlling a fake Democratic Party. The other thing that is
interesting is just you know how they were attacking Biden
after the debate, and they got rid of Biden in
the Progressive gist and everything could to destroy Biden. They're

(16:11):
now doing that with their criticism of Shapiro and of Kelly,
whom they accuse of being quote too conservative on key issues.
In other words, they're too white. Okay, Like I'm just
telling you that. Sean Fame, president of the United Auto Workers,
said during a Sunday interview on CBS that Kelly had

(16:31):
not really been a great champion of the union's concerns
about his commitment to pro labor legislation, and that the
organization had quote bigger issues with Shapiro's support for school
vouchers because unions don't actually care if kids get a
good education. They just care if they get dues from teachers,

(16:53):
and that they can keep them in failing schools and
give teachers salary increases and the unions get more money.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Because it's not about education, it's about.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Employment of union laborers that happen to describe themselves as teachers.
The unions have destroyed our kids future in education because
they don't care if your kids are in a failing school.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
They don't care if your teachers suck.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
They just want to keep propping up bad teachers who
put their hand up in the air and go I
am a Union member now. That should simply explain the
union's obsession here. Another group of progressive activists communicating through
an email group called Game Changer Salon, have come out

(17:38):
against Shapiro Governor Spiro as well, and pushed its members
to highlight his stance on the Israel Hamas War. They
can't stand the guy because he's actually back to.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Israel a little bit.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
The debate grew heated during a discussion about whether using
the freight quote genocide Josh to describe Shapiro, who is
an observant Jew, was quote anti Semitic. They want to
call him genocide Josh. That's how radical they are. They
hate him because he's Jewish. They don't want a Jewish
guy being the vice president. An organizer called for calm

(18:10):
and rebranding the email chain why Josh Shapiro should not
be the VP. Some of the emails also called for
members to push for Waltz, who has become a favorite
of the party's most radical about sixty percent of whom
they addressed on Friday. One message written by the executive
director of a liberal donor group known as a Movement
Voter Project said Shapiro could cause a drop and turnout

(18:34):
among progressive voters who are concerned about the war and
the fact that he's Jewish, right, because they're anti Semites.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
The Democratic Party is anti Semites. He quote.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
He risked significantly depressing enthusiasm for the Hairs ticket among
key constituents of young voters because young voters have been
taught to eight Jews, Arab and Muslim voters, they say,
and to some degree labor they wrote in the email thread,
which was shared with The New York Times, and Waltz
is the perfect Hairs VP unicorn for this moment because
it's all about pandering right. They're not really Democrats anymore.

(19:06):
They're Marxists, are socialists in their Communists, and they hate
Jews and they hate Israel and they want them to
be wiped off the face of the earth. So they're like,
we can't have a Jewish guy to be the vice
president because they are bigots. The same party that says
they're all inclusive is saying hell no to a guy
solely because he's Jewish.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Let that sit in.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Finally, Senator John Fetterman, Democrat Pennsylvania, who is long clashed
with Sapiro, has also expressed displeasure at the prospect of
the governor being elevated to a national ticket. According to
two people who have spoken with him, one of his
advisors called the Harris campaign to object to Shapiro, and
that is something that Politico is saying, really has never

(19:46):
been done before. So you've got this massive infighting going
on and the Democratic Party saying we don't want a Democrat,
we don't want a Jewish Democrat, we want a radical.
This is a problem for Harris. How does she get
everyone to come together or by Tuesday night. Now here's
something else that's interesting that's also been happening, as so

(20:07):
many are objecting to Shapiro, who seems to be like
the safe candidate, but they hate him because he's Jewish,
because the Democratic Party is, I guess as a platform,
is anti Semitic.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
The attacks have also been let me rephrase this.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
The left has also been rebuked in a weird way
by some on TV.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'll give you an example of this.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
The growing attacks on Shapiro have been rebuked by some
moderates in the party and others in the media. For example,
Joe Scarborough MSNBC Morning Joe hosts issued a forceful defense
of the Pennsylvania governor on the social platform x, saying
the recent attacks on him were quote a toxic mix

(20:51):
of anti Semitism, extremist views on Gaza, and jealous colleagues
who don't want to be blocked out of the presidential
sweepstakes for the next decade. Joe Scarborough's crazy, but he
isn't always stupid.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I think he's right.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
But they don't want a white guy who's Jewish to
have a chance at being president. Like, you gotta understand
they're not even this isn't even about him being the
vice president. They're afraid that a a white man who
is Jewish and they hate the Jews. Right, They're in
favor of Amasa, Terrists and Hesballah and Iran. They're radicals

(21:30):
in the Democratic Party, Marxist, socialist and communists.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I keep telling you this, get used to it.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm not gonna stop because it's the truth and it
needs to sink in with Americans.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
But this is he's more than Joe's right, Like they're.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Afraid of an a of an individual who is logical
and stands with Israel. Like that's how extreme the Democratic
Party has gotten. A similar document, by the way, has
also been put out by Extrememistcress, a group of progressive
donors in recent days has been making.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
A push not just for Waltz.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Over the past week, Democratic Operatives Okay, an advisor to
Faith in Minnesota PAK have circulated a memo calling for
the case for Tim Waltz for vice president, hoping to
sway Harris on that. Another document Right came out supporting,
saying we got to have a gay guy that the
Transportation secretary, mayor Pete. You know, he's like a famous

(22:28):
gay guy who headlined a Harris fundraiser in New Hampshire
on Saturday, was the guy they need because they would
get the gay vote if they gave him the job.
And then on Sunday, Kelly posted social media, then subsequently
deleted a message that curiously said he would now be

(22:49):
focused on his home state, saying, quote, my background is
a bit different than most politicians, Kelly wrote, I spent
my life serving the Navy and at NASA, where the
mission always comes first.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Now my mission is serving Arizonans.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Kelly spokesman Jacob Peters said the post was deleted because
it was being misunderstood somehow. In Pine that he knew
he wasn't going to be picked. So you look at
all this and then you go back to Shapiro and
I still think he's the leader here.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
And let me explain why.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Shapiro has emerged as the choice of the party's rich
mega donors.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Many of them are pro Israel donors, those with.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Ties to the school choice movement, and then business friendly
contributors in Silicon Valley.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
They like him because of his centrist positions.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That appeer that appeal to those groups, and they like
him because he doesn't seem to be so crazy. They
then say, look, all right, well, is there a compromise, right,
how do you bring the same part of the party
which is very small but very wealthy and rich those
donors that you need together without with with those extremists

(24:05):
that are the core of the Democratic Party voters and
activists right now? That compromise, they say, is the Kentucky
governor Andy Masher, who has who has fans among the
parties more liberal and more centrist contributors. Also, they say,
maybe he's the peace offering, so it's not a Jewish guy.

(24:26):
Now again, I go back to this because it's just
amazing to me. Now that at the level I should
say of anti Semitism, that's not even being like held
back or quietly being talked about behind closed doors like
the Democratic Party is just it should be part of
their platform, like do we hate Jews at the convention and.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Everybody should be like like yes, because they do.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Like the Democratic Party hates Jews, they hate Israel. They
don't mind if they get wiped off the face of
the earth. They hate Jews within their own party. And
the only reason why Wish guys getting elected is because
they're in a more moderate state with more moderate voters
and donors that are rich, wealthy white people or Jewish

(25:10):
people who are donating. The core of the Democratic Party
is anti Semitic. I bet you if you took a
poll of ten thousand Democratic registered voters and you said
you like Jews, I bet you the majority of them
would say no. Now it's a majority opinion of the
Democratic Party. Yes we hate Jews, and they're not hiding
their anti semitismymore like it's very open.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
It's very clear.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Now there's also another problem, and I'm not going to
spend much time on this, but I do want to
bring it up. The Daily Mail is now going after
Kamala Harris and her family. This is part of politics
when you're running. This did not come out before now,
and now it's out there. I'm going to read you
the headline. Kamala Harris's husband, Doug im Hoff, cheated on

(25:59):
his first on life with their daughters nanny Nigeene Naylor
and got her pregnant, is what they are now reporting
in the Daily Mail. Now, I'm gonna let you decide
what to do with that. This is the TMZ of politics.
I don't know if it matters to Democratic voters. I

(26:22):
honestly don't know if these issues matter anymore to voters, because, like,
the moral compass has just changed so much in this
country where I don't I think the majority of Americans
just say, yeah, politicians are rich and famous and they're
gonna cheat, and that's just the way it's gonna work.
We don't care if Kamala Harris's husband cheated on his
first wife with a daughter's nanny got her pregnant. We

(26:44):
don't care, Like we don't care that the first husband, right,
which will break another glass ceiling of a man being
you know, subortied to women, which, by the way, many
feminists love this, this picture and this idea of some
white dude, you know, serving as the first husband, because
you know, in this this feminist movement, the same radical

(27:05):
feminists that won't stand up for women's sports and are
and are not standing up for the fact that we
have dudes being the crap out of women in the Olympics,
Like the double standard is laughable. But I think they
don't care that this dude again, this is coming from
the Daily Mail and Pregnant of the Nanny, Like.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
They don't care.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
And family values are just gone, all right, They're just
they are They're just gone.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
One other thing I want to also bring up.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Kevin O'Leary, you know him from Shark Tank said this
about Kamala Harris. It's not like she just started yesterday.
When you vote and get it wrong, I lose fifty
million dollars. Kevin O'Leary, most known is mister wonderful from
Shark Tank, set down with Chris Cuomo to share his
thoughts on politics and investing in the current climate. In

(27:57):
the conversation, literally deeply studied how the political landscape, especially
around Kamala Harris, influences his investment decisions.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
For O'Leary.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It's not about whether you're a Democrat or Republican's about
the policies that will impact business and investments. I've never
made any money on politics. I've made money on policy,
saying he spent the last three years rubbing shoulders of
politicians from all sides of the aisle, not just the
red and blue. During the interview, Larry shared his thoughts
on Harris and the challenges she faces. He was critical

(28:28):
of Harris's past performance and stress the importance of execution
skills in the upcoming election. He said, there must be
another woman of color that has better execution skills than Harris.
Certainly there are other women. She has a track record.
It's not like she just started yesterday. She's been there
for over three and a half years. It doesn't matter

(28:48):
what a Democrat says. It's a matter of what the
independent voter is going to do in the seven states
that matter. Continuing, he said this election, what it means
for him as an investor, He said, for me, as
an investor, all I care about is how it's going
to work in Michigan, how it's going to work in Pennsylvania.
What's going to happen in Iowa. You can make a

(29:10):
mistake when you vote and get it wrong, I lose
fifty million. He again to pointed out that he's neither
Republican or Democrat supporter, but a policy supporter, saying, quote,
I want to do policy that helps create jobs in America,
and I don't care whether they're red or blue or
independent jobs. And what he said was is like, you

(29:30):
need to look at her record and what she has
done and what she hasn't done. And he was clearly saying,
I think Harris is going to cost us money. It's
going to cost us jobs. Now you put all this together,
you look at what's happening on Wall Street right now.
We had the worst day that you could have had

(29:51):
on Friday, and it got even worse on Monday morning
when the Dow was down twelve hundred, right, I mean,
the Dow dropped over one thousand plus points. The NASDAC
created six percent in a market route. The rest of
the world also cratering right now. And you look at
all of this and you see it and you realize,

(30:11):
like there's a lot of Americans that are losing a
hell of a lot of money right now, and a
lot of this has been created by the policies of
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. And I think you can
actually argue that Joe Biden has has handed over the
presidency to Kamala Harris and these are very much her policies.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
But I don't think they care about you. I don't
think they care.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I don't think they care if you lose money, Like
I don't think they care at all. I think they're
fine with you losing money as long as they keep
their power. One more thing I want to add here,
and that is this is Kamala Harris black issue. Is
it becoming an issue that she claims she was black

(30:59):
and she's not black? And Donald Trump brought it up
the other day and then everybody was like, Oh, you're
racist for bringing it up. Look, I think it actually
set in with a lot of people, like, hey, be
who you are, but don't claim you're black when it's
convenient for you when you're actually not black. And this
may actually hurt kamlayers with black voters. How do I
why do I believe this? Take a listen to this
from CNN.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Last week before Trump appeared at the NABJ Joel d
A Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, CBS Network anchor went to a central
Pennsylvania barbershop seeking some candid conversation. Among the revelations that
some of the black men that he interviewed did not
regard Harris as black.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is Kamala gonna make you a little more likely or
less likely to vote Democrats?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Course?

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Great?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Hold on, right?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Is it this?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Kamala black is another I'm gonna let us speak on that.
But to me, no, oh, blacks, I share that same view. Wow,
it's Kama know I hear she's a half black?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Game at Asian.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
When I played that audio on my Serious XM radio
program on Thursday, many callers who self identified as African
American were quick to tell me that those men were
the exception, not the rule. Some describe them as low
information voters, no different than you find among whites.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I love this those who had self identified is black.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
So again he's like, I'm not gonna fit anybody. If
you think you're black, you're black? Like this is insane.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
The Democratic Party doesn't know what a woman is, they
don't know what a man is. They don't even know
anymore what black is. Right, So now anything goes so
I just want to be clear as I wrap this up,
I identify now today today only I think I don't
know what I'm gonna do tomorrow, but I identify today
as a black man. And the Democratic Party, by the way,

(32:53):
should come give me a hug and should embrace the
fact that I identify as a black man today.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
You're welcome, America.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Make sure you share this podcast with your family and
your friends, and I'll see you back here tomorrow.
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