May 30, 2025 • 26 mins
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Presidential Pardons and Criminal Justice Reform
- Alice Marie Johnson, a former federal prisoner turned criminal justice reform advocate, is highlighted for her role in advising President Trump on pardons.
- She discusses the pardons of reality TV stars Todd and Julie Chrisley, emphasizing rehabilitation and over-sentencing.
- Johnson also defends the pardon of rapper NBA YoungBoy, citing his background and the circumstances of his charges.
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Trump Administration's Tariff Policies
- The document discusses the reinstatement of “Liberation Day” tariffs after a court ruling was stayed.
- The Trump administration defends these tariffs as necessary for national security and economic independence, especially in light of trade deficits and foreign manufacturing reliance.
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Criticism of Judicial Oversight
- Strong criticism is directed at the U.S. Court of International Trade, accusing it of judicial overreach for attempting to block the tariffs.
- The administration argues that the President has the authority to impose such tariffs under national emergency powers.
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FBI Transparency and Internal Investigations
- Dan Bongino reveals the discovery of a hidden room at FBI headquarters containing unprocessed documents from former Director James Comey’s tenure.
- The current FBI leadership, including Director Cash Patel, is portrayed as committed to transparency and accountability, revisiting past high-profile cases.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You may remember a woman by the name of Alice
Marie Johnson. She is an American criminal justice reform advocate.
She is a former federal prisoner. She's actually from my
hometown of Memphis, Tennessee. And you may remember, I think
it was Kim Kardashian who helped tell her story to
the President and ultimately got her a pardon. Well, she
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is now helping the President of the United States of
America when it comes to some of these pardons and
people that they believe have been unfairly targeted or got
sentences that were way longer than they should have been. Now,
part of this goes back to Alice's story. She was
convicted in nineteen ninety six for an involvement in a
Memphis cocaine trafficking organization and she was sentenced to life
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in prison. The life imprisonment without the possibility of parole
was what they gave her in ninety six, and it
was commuted to twenty one years in prison. Then in
twenty twenty, it was a pardon from Donald Trump that
allowed her to get out of jail. Now, there was
a lot that happened with her, and a lot of
people heard it early on and they were like, we.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hold on a second. This woman was involved in a
drug ring.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
In theory, yes, but if you look at the details,
she basically answered a phone and was the lowest level
person involved, and then she got life in prison. A
lot of people thought it was incredibly unfair. She's now
an advocate for the president and referred to as the
pardon Czar. She is talking now about these reality TV
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stars and providing them quote a second chance. Todd and
Julie they were pardoned and they were released from prison
on Wednesday. Alice said their daughter was their biggest advocate.
She thinks the couple will become criminal justice reform advocates
as well, after they say they have served enough of
their time now. She did a sit down interview on
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Fox and Friends this morning giving the case on why
it is important that they were also given a second chance,
and I want you to hear what she had to
say in her own words.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Take a listen to this. Alice.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Marie Johnson is the person that she was just referring to,
and she is the partons are who helped present the
case to President Trump and he signed off on it.
Als great to see you your thought. We went into
the decisions that you thought that Todd and Julie deserved
to be out.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, they were only sentenced.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
They both received a combined sentus of nineteen years for
first time non voald in the fence. And if you
look at their case and how it went down, I'm
going to say that in Georgian it was truly weaponized.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
They called them the Trumps of Georgian.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So when you looked at their background, you see the
fact that they did seem to hide money from the irs.
They were buried in debt to fraud banks.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You're not saying that didn't happen. You just say they're
overly charged.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They were definitely overly charged. Without going into all of
the elements of this case and this trial, which if
we had more time to talk about it, I'd be
able to tell you all the horrific things that happened
in their case. But they will certainly over a sentence
and for that, looking at them, they don't pose a
risk to society. In fact, I know that they're going
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to use their voices and their platform to uplift the
president's agenda.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So Alice, can you tell everyone at home what the
criteria is that you go through before you make a
recommendation to the president to sign off on the pardons.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What do you look for?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yes, one of the things that I look for is rehabilitation.
That person is incocerated. Have they rehabilitated, Have they admitted
not only admitted, but have they remorseful for what they've done.
I look at what the saf says about them. I
look at you, they pose a safety risk to the community.
That's one of the big things, says, we don't want
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to release someone that would pose risk to the community.
I look at really, do they have good and good
reinser plan And they don't have that because some have
been in prison so long that they really can't say that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I have a job laiting on me.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
One of the things you may have noticed there is
she said, this is not people saying they're innocent. This
is people that are saying, yes, they were guilty, but
are their threat to society?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And were they overcharged?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
President Trump described the treatment of these individuals as quote
pretty harsh, expressing his belief that they were unfairly targeted,
and a phone call with their daughter, Savannah, he conveyed
his intention to expedite their release, stating, your parents are
going to be free and clean now. The family's reunion
was filled with emotions as well as Savannah, who had
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been a vocal advocate for her parents' release, express immense
gratitude towards President Trump and all who supported their cause.
She emphasized the significance of family unity and her commitment
to advocating against wrongful convictions. These former reality TV stars
are also set to return to television with a new
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docuseriies on Lifetime, We're being Told, offering viewers an intimate
look into their lives post incarceration. This development marks a
quote fresh chapter for the family, blending their personal journey
with their return to quote public eye. Now, there's a
lot of people that say, maybe this wasn't worth a
presidential pardon. We'll see if you look at how they
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were charged and how long they were going to go
to jail for. There's a lot of people that say, well,
they should have been there for a long time because
of what they were convicted of. There's others to say, hey,
they paid back restitution, they've made it right, they've moved on,
they're good, they were well behaved in jail, and it's
time to give them a second chance. There's also others
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to say, well, hold on, this is just Donald Trump
hooking up pro Trump advocates only with pardons. There are
some that are criticizing, saying this is no different than
what Joe Biden was doing hooking up his friends. Which
brings me to part two of the interview with Miss
Johnson on Fox News Channel. Because Brian killed me and
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asked another question saying, hey, these aren't the only pardons
coming down from the present.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Some of them are also for some rappers.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And I want you to hear the question he asked,
because some of these rappers in their lyrics, they hated
Donald Trump. So it blows the narrative out the water
that anyone that gets to pardon right now is a
pro Trump individual.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Listen to this. That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Okay, So a couple of rappers have come out, or
let's say one in particular, Young Boy.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
One of his.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Lyrics in twenty seventeen that he put out is f
Donald Trump had some more disparaging things to say. He
had a violent pass of assault and battery, multiple cases
of that, and firearm, drug and fraud charges.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What sold you on him? Get a second chance?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I looked at that age and how this young man
grew up.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
He grew up in a very impoverished neighborhood, and the
things that he had to face young.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
India, young boy growing up.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Most of those were gun charges without the guns being discharged.
But I also looked at what happened to him on
a set where he was filming a video and he
had a crop in the set. That's really where this
came from. He didn't come out of prison, he was
given a part and so who could have a new beginning?
And the officers who in this particular case, they came
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at him as though he was a terrorist and he
was on a set.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Failing for a video.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
They gave him a gun charge for that, and he
thought that the officers who did this were all investigated
and fired.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So I look at the elements of what happened to
the young man.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So one thing I know, the prison has great respect
for you and really values your opinion. Already, I think
we have four partons outside the January sixth Guys, how
many do you think you'll recommend by the time the
four years are done?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
There are I've been entrusted with this position, Brian, and
I can't give you a number, But I can tell
you this is that I will be carefully reviewing all
cases that come there. I've got a team around me.
They also vet these cases. It's not just my eyes
looking at these cases. They go to attorneys and they
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pull up their background, They do a risk assessment on them.
They look at the elements of the crime and then
comes that and then I go it goes ego further vented.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Alice Mary Johnson. Very important job. I hope everyone who's
getting these partons and commutations realize the opportunity you are
giving them.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Listening to what she said there, and I got to
tell you she knows these cases well. She talks about
this rapper who, by the way, said terrible things about
Donald Trump, and she's like the police officer that came
after him were fired after they were investigated. It was
a prop on a set, is how they sent him
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to prison.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So when you look at that and the overall.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Information that's being given here, it's pretty clear that the
president saying, whether you hate me or not, I'm going
to look at your case and I'm going to look
and see if it's something that you deserve or not
and if you should be given a second chance, that's incredible.
Major win for Donald Trump yet again on tariffs, as
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an appeals court on Thursday stayed the ruling of the
US Court of International Trade that had blocked President Trump's
Liberation Day tariffs. Translation, the tariffs are back in effect.
The US Court of International Trade issued an injunction on
Wednesday night, ruling that President Donald Trump's Liberation Day quote
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unquote tariffs were illegal. The White House filed emotion to
stay the ruling, and the tariffs were reinstated Thursday afternoon.
As CNBC noted shortly after the White House slammed the ruling,
here's the White House Press Secretary and her statement clearly
coming from the Oval Office.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Last night, the Trump administration faced another example of judicial overreach.
Using his full and proper legal authority, President Trump imposed
universal tariffs and reciprocal tariffs on Liberation Day to address
the extraordinary threat to our national security and economy posed
by large and persistent annual US goods trade deficits. The
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United States has run a trade deficit of goods every
year since nineteen seventy five. In twenty twenty four, our
trade deficit in goods exceeded one trillion dollars. Everybody agrees
this is unacceptable. President Trump is delivering on his promise
to fix this problem, and he has taken a long
overdue and much needed, bold stance for American workers after
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decades of our manufacturing base being hollowed out. The President's
rationale for imposing these powerful tariffs was legally sound and
grounded in common sense. President Trump correctly believes that America
cannot function safely long term if we are unable to
scale advanced domestic manufacturing capacity. How our own secure critical
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supply chains and our defense industrial base is dependent on
foreign adversaries. Three judges of the US Court of International
Trade disagreed and brazenly abused their judicial power to usurp
the authority of President Trump to stop him from carrying
out the mandate that the American people gave him. These
judges failed to acknowledge that the President of the United
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States has core foreign affairs powers and authority given to
him by Congress to protect the United States economy and
national security. Congress had created the National Emergency Act to
provide the congressional framework to strike down improper iepa use
and any questions over whether President Trump improperly imposed these
IEPA tariffs were already adjudicated in Congress. Following Liberation Day.
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Congress firmly rejected an effort led by Senator Ran Paul
and Democrats to terminate the president's reciprocal tariffs. The courts
should have no role here. There is a troubling and
dangerous trend of unelected judges inserting themselves into the presidential
decision making process. America cannot function if President Trump, or
any other president for that matter, has their sensitive diplomatic
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or trade negotiations railroaded by activist judges. President Trump is
in the process of rebalancing America's trading agreements with the
entire world, bringing tens of billions of dollars in tariff
revenues to our country, and finally ending the United States
of America from being ripped off. These judges are threatening
to undermine the credibility of the United States on the
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world stage. The Administration has already filed an emergency motion
for a stay pending appeal and an immediate administrative stay
to strike down this degregious decision, but ultimately the Supreme
Court must put an end to this for the sake
of our constitution in our country.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Not only is Carolyn Levin correct in what she said there,
but saying that the court has no role in this
the way that she described it, She's absolutely right about
that as well. Donald Trump saying this quote, I don't
chicken out on tariffs. It's called negotiations, also talking about
how he is willing to work with other countries, but
he's not going to have America taken advantage of anymore.
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The NEC director Hassett also was on Maria Bartromo show
on Fox Business this morning, and here is what he
had to say as well about the negotiations, the tariffs,
and the courts.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Gentleman as White House nationallyc and I'm a Council Director,
Kevin Hasset. Kevin, good to see you.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
I think the reporters at this point know how to
talk to President Trump by using the term chickening out.
What's your reaction?
Speaker 8 (13:50):
Yeah, well, actually, I think if President Trump had just
a minute more, if you go back into the room
behind the oval, he's got all his hats and things
over there, Yes, and he has a hat which is
the accurate response to what that person said, which is
Trump always wins. Go Look, a lot of people aware
that had Trump always wins and Trump was always right,
those are the two. But Trump does always win these
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negotiations because we're right. We're right that America has been
mishandled by other governments, that our tariffs are taking them
to the table, and they're coming in with massive concessions,
opening up their markets to our products and lowering their
tariffs on us. And so this trade negotiation season has
been really, really effective for the American people, and it's
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unfortunate that people would attack it as the journalists did,
or the way the judges just do.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Did you know that these activist.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Judges are trying to slow down something right in the
middle of really important negotiations. And the idea that the
FENTONL crisis in America is not an emergency is so
appalling to me that I'm sure that when we appeal
that this decision will be overturned.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I mean the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of nineteen
seventy seven is that the courts are deeming to say, look,
this does this does not equate to an emergency under
this Act of nineteen seventy seven. I know that the
lawyers from the administration immediately appealed, But what do you
(15:16):
want to say about this right now strike down.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Of these global tariffs?
Speaker 7 (15:24):
What happens in the interim now, Kevin.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Well, what's going to happen is, first we're going to
see what happens out appeal and are very confident in
our success there because, after all, hundreds and hundreds of
thousands of Americans have died because of mostly Chinese fentinel
and a Chinese sentinel coming in from Mexico and Canada.
And the idea that having more people die from fentanyl
than died in the Vietnam War and that that's not
an emergency that we need to use every power that
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we have to try to address is ludicrous to me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But the second thing is that.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
The trade law is very complex, and this part of
the trade law is the thing that was most accurately used,
that very precisely used by USTR Trade Representative Javison Gear,
because this is the one where we actually have the
most authority for doing what we're exactly doing. But there
are three or four other ways to do it, and
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we don't have to go into the numbers right now,
I think everybody will go back to sleeper. But the
fact is that there are things that measures that we
could take with different numbers that we could start right now.
There are different approaches that would take a couple of
months to put these in place and using procedures that
have been approved in the past, were approved in the
last administration. But we're not planning to pursue those right
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now because we're very, very confident that this really isn'tcorrect.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And sure enough, the ruling was incorrect, and that's why
there's such confidence there from him on this. Pierre Navarro
at the White House, obviously dealing with a lot of
the trade issues as well, was asked about this. And
by the way, Donald Trump has also come out with
a new statement and he said tariffs are actually helping,
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not hurting Americans. Some of the media I've been saying, oh,
it's turning Americans, turning Americans. He said, no, that's not
what's happening here. You're wrong that the cost of the terroriffs.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Is that an acknowledgement that it is. Where somebody's been there,
the teriff's not work.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Sometimes the country will eat it, sometimes Walmart will eat it.
And sometimes it will be something to be pay something extra.
I've always been a fan, and I've always believed. And
if you look, take a look at what I did
four years ago. We had the greatest economy and we
had no inflation. Remember that we had no inflation. And
yet we had hundreds of billions of dollars of tariffs
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that I put on China. Yet we had no inflation.
We had no big cost differential. Oftentimes, and don't I
don't like it when the Department serve because they'll do
a lot of business, but you know, they announced record
profits and everything else, they have to take out some
of their profits. I'll make a little bit less money.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
But I don't want I don't want the consumer.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
I don't want the consumer to pay. Why Europa, they're
not hurting, they're helping because they're creating jobs. In America.
We're creating tremendous amounts of jobs in America like you've
never seen. We're having investment in America. We're not getting
ripped off by every country in the world. We've been
ripped off by every country in the world. They're making
their product, they sell it. They don't give our people
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the jobs. They make them with other countries' jobs, and
we will have something that nobody will ever see again.
I think, I think we have a potential to do
numbers that we never envisioned in the wild. As yere
look at look at what's happening ten to twelve threellion
dollars in literally a couple of months. It's not nothing
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like that's ever happened. It's a very special We're doing
a very special thing we want if they're going to
sell it here. Generally speaking, not for all products. There's
some products we don't want to make. Frankly, we're much
better off getting getting them elsewhere. But for certain products
who want cars, we want to make cars.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We don't want to have an il like Canada very much.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Isn't it amazing to have someone like this in office
who actually puts the American worker first, who also doesn't
allow for these just straight up lies that are coming
out to continue to be said.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And that is the part that we should all be
so thankful for.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You can follow this next story under the category of
you don't hate the deep State enough and exactly what
they've been hiding from you.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
The FBI Deputy Director Dan.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Bongino has announced the discovery of a previously undisclosed room
at the FBI headquarters containing a trove of documents from
former Director James Comey's tenure. Bongino described the room as
quote hidden from us, and noted that many of the
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materials were not processed through standard FBI procedures such as
digitization or proper cataloging. Some documents were reportedly found stored
in bags, raising concerns about potential mishandling of evidence during
Comy's tenure. Bongino also emphasized the FBI's commitment to transparency,
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stating that efforts are now underway to to classify these materials.
Here is more of James Comy talking about all of
this on Fox and Friends.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
As of Jim Comey, because he cannot control himself and
his emotions, he is a child, He is a big child.
Then let me tell you one more thing. Jim Comey,
who wants you to Jim Comey taking a shot at
the president. Oh look at me. I'm such a victim.
The President's going after me. He's making a ton of
money on this book. The only person that got prosecuted
was the president. Jim Comey, we're finding stuff even now wait,
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you read the stuff that's coming out.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Does does he still have loyalists in the building, Because
when I hear the FBI director saying, you guys are
finding boxes that are hidden, Okay, how does that happen
in the bureau?
Speaker 10 (21:07):
Well, we were there a couple of weeks and luckily
there are a lot of people up there who grabbed
us by the arm the middle. We came in and said,
thank you for being here. You know, we need to talk.
There are people there who are really horrified at what happened.
And there was a room and we found stuff, a
lot of stuff hidden room. I wouldn't call it hidden,
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but hidden from us at least and not mentioned to us.
And then we found stuff in there and a lot
of it's from the Komi era. And we are working
our damn this right now to declassifying. Just so you know,
because I get the public, I totally understand people saying
we'll do it now.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
The process is not.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
All the information is ours to classify some as other
intelligence agencies.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's not.
Speaker 10 (21:50):
We literally can't do it. Once that gets done and
that gets out there, and you read some of the
stuff we found that, by the way, was not processed
through the normal procedure digitizing, putting in FBI records were
found it in bags hiding under Jim call. Yeah, you're
going to be stuck.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
There's one thing that Dan Bongino made very clear. It
is a process that he wants to be transparent with
the American people, and the declassification of these materials is underway.
He as you heard him say, it's complex because many
of these issues involve other intelligence agencies and the FBI
does not have the right to classify their intelligence.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I also assured you that once the appropriate processes are completed,
the findings will be shared, and he anticipates that the
revelations will be quote significant.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Now. This development also aligns.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
With broader insues by the current FBI leadership, including the
Director Cash Mattel, to revisit and bring transparency to past investigations.
These efforts encompass re examining high profile cases such as
the January sixth pipe bomb, the twenty twenty two dob
Supreme Court leak, and the twenty twenty three discovery of
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cocaine at the White House. Now, the actions from the
FBI now reflect a renewed focus on accountability and restoring
public trust in the FBI. The agency's provocative steps to
uncover and address pass oversights demonstrate a commitment to upholding
the integrity of their operations, something that Donald Trump promised
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every American if he was re elected, and he's making
good on that promise now. In the issue of transparency,
the FBI has made it very clear they're willing to
answer questions, have conversations, and the FBI Director Cash Bettel
set down with Brett Barett Fox News and what did
he ask him? Well, several questions including what keeps you
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up at night?
Speaker 11 (23:52):
What's the thing that keeps you up at night?
Speaker 12 (23:55):
The CCP for a whole host of reasons. We haven't
even talked about their cyberspc our campaign, what they're doing undersea,
what Russia's doing over head in terms of space, and
their cyber intrusion capabilities like Salt Typhoon. They have made
wildly successful penetrations into our telecommunications infrastructure. And what they
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do is they suck up our information. Breton, this is
what keeps me up at night. They're playing the long game.
The Fentyl production by the CCP, I firmly believe is
their way of killing tens of thousands of military age
men and women in the United States of America. They
are wiping out generations of Americas that could come here
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and be an FBI agent. All right, So let's just
talk to the future here.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
How do you see this the job?
Speaker 12 (24:42):
Is it different than you thought it was coming in?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
How do you look at a big picture?
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Look, there's two ways I look at it. One, you're
talking to a first generation Indian kid whose parents fled
genocide and their sons now the director of the FBI
only in America, literally only in America. So I wanted
to inspire people to come to places like this and
train with us and serve this country. The other thing
that I want people to take away from that is
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there is no job on God's green Earth that prepares
you to lead an agency or department. There isn't anyone
who tells you otherwise is flat out lying or being
politically preposterous. And I learn every single day I learn
from the leadership team. I have folks in there around
my table every morning who come from so many different
walks of life, people I disagree with on a daily basis,
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and I'm so glad that they're in that room, because
they are the ones helping me make these decisions. What
we won't stand for is people turning around on social
media and attacking folks who are doing the job. We
will stand up for them. We will also out anyone
who violates their oath of office at the FBI, Intel
analyst agents, support staff. What happened, we already have and
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every time we do. Brett, this is the thing the
media doesn't pick up on. We announce it, but I
don't take a victory lap. It's all out there. Dozens
of people have been dealt with for politicizing the FBI,
for weaponizing it. Everything from Hunter Biden's laptop to January
sixth to Neil Team six and everything else has been
dealt with, and we keep going.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I expect we're going to get a lot more information
out of the FBI, as transparency seems to be the
number one thing the President and cashpertteller advocating for.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
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You may remember a woman by the name of Alice
Marie Johnson. She is an American criminal justice reform advocate.
She is a former federal prisoner. She's actually from my
hometown of Memphis, Tennessee. And you may remember, I think
it was Kim Kardashian who helped tell her story to
the President and ultimately got her a pardon. Well, she
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is now helping the President of the United States of
America when it comes to some of these pardons and
people that they believe have been unfairly targeted or got
sentences that were way longer than they should have been. Now,
part of this goes back to Alice's story. She was
convicted in nineteen ninety six for an involvement in a
Memphis cocaine trafficking organization and she was sentenced to life
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in prison. The life imprisonment without the possibility of parole
was what they gave her in ninety six, and it
was commuted to twenty one years in prison. Then in
twenty twenty, it was a pardon from Donald Trump that
allowed her to get out of jail. Now, there was
a lot that happened with her, and a lot of
people heard it early on and they were like, we.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hold on a second. This woman was involved in a
drug ring.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
In theory, yes, but if you look at the details,
she basically answered a phone and was the lowest level
person involved, and then she got life in prison. A
lot of people thought it was incredibly unfair. She's now
an advocate for the president and referred to as the
pardon Czar. She is talking now about these reality TV
(01:33):
stars and providing them quote a second chance. Todd and
Julie they were pardoned and they were released from prison
on Wednesday. Alice said their daughter was their biggest advocate.
She thinks the couple will become criminal justice reform advocates
as well, after they say they have served enough of
their time now. She did a sit down interview on
(01:57):
Fox and Friends this morning giving the case on why
it is important that they were also given a second chance,
and I want you to hear what she had to
say in her own words.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Take a listen to this. Alice.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Marie Johnson is the person that she was just referring to,
and she is the partons are who helped present the
case to President Trump and he signed off on it.
Als great to see you your thought. We went into
the decisions that you thought that Todd and Julie deserved
to be out.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, they were only sentenced.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
They both received a combined sentus of nineteen years for
first time non voald in the fence. And if you
look at their case and how it went down, I'm
going to say that in Georgian it was truly weaponized.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
They called them the Trumps of Georgian.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So when you looked at their background, you see the
fact that they did seem to hide money from the irs.
They were buried in debt to fraud banks.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You're not saying that didn't happen. You just say they're
overly charged.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They were definitely overly charged. Without going into all of
the elements of this case and this trial, which if
we had more time to talk about it, I'd be
able to tell you all the horrific things that happened
in their case. But they will certainly over a sentence
and for that, looking at them, they don't pose a
risk to society. In fact, I know that they're going
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to use their voices and their platform to uplift the
president's agenda.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So Alice, can you tell everyone at home what the
criteria is that you go through before you make a
recommendation to the president to sign off on the pardons.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What do you look for?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yes, one of the things that I look for is rehabilitation.
That person is incocerated. Have they rehabilitated, Have they admitted
not only admitted, but have they remorseful for what they've done.
I look at what the saf says about them. I
look at you, they pose a safety risk to the community.
That's one of the big things, says, we don't want
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to release someone that would pose risk to the community.
I look at really, do they have good and good
reinser plan And they don't have that because some have
been in prison so long that they really can't say that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I have a job laiting on me.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
One of the things you may have noticed there is
she said, this is not people saying they're innocent. This
is people that are saying, yes, they were guilty, but
are their threat to society?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And were they overcharged?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
President Trump described the treatment of these individuals as quote
pretty harsh, expressing his belief that they were unfairly targeted,
and a phone call with their daughter, Savannah, he conveyed
his intention to expedite their release, stating, your parents are
going to be free and clean now. The family's reunion
was filled with emotions as well as Savannah, who had
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been a vocal advocate for her parents' release, express immense
gratitude towards President Trump and all who supported their cause.
She emphasized the significance of family unity and her commitment
to advocating against wrongful convictions. These former reality TV stars
are also set to return to television with a new
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docuseriies on Lifetime, We're being Told, offering viewers an intimate
look into their lives post incarceration. This development marks a
quote fresh chapter for the family, blending their personal journey
with their return to quote public eye. Now, there's a
lot of people that say, maybe this wasn't worth a
presidential pardon. We'll see if you look at how they
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were charged and how long they were going to go
to jail for. There's a lot of people that say, well,
they should have been there for a long time because
of what they were convicted of. There's others to say, hey,
they paid back restitution, they've made it right, they've moved on,
they're good, they were well behaved in jail, and it's
time to give them a second chance. There's also others
(05:54):
to say, well, hold on, this is just Donald Trump
hooking up pro Trump advocates only with pardons. There are
some that are criticizing, saying this is no different than
what Joe Biden was doing hooking up his friends. Which
brings me to part two of the interview with Miss
Johnson on Fox News Channel. Because Brian killed me and
(06:16):
asked another question saying, hey, these aren't the only pardons
coming down from the present.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Some of them are also for some rappers.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And I want you to hear the question he asked,
because some of these rappers in their lyrics, they hated
Donald Trump. So it blows the narrative out the water
that anyone that gets to pardon right now is a
pro Trump individual.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Listen to this. That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Okay, So a couple of rappers have come out, or
let's say one in particular, Young Boy.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
One of his.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Lyrics in twenty seventeen that he put out is f
Donald Trump had some more disparaging things to say. He
had a violent pass of assault and battery, multiple cases
of that, and firearm, drug and fraud charges.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What sold you on him? Get a second chance?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I looked at that age and how this young man
grew up.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
He grew up in a very impoverished neighborhood, and the
things that he had to face young.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
India, young boy growing up.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Most of those were gun charges without the guns being discharged.
But I also looked at what happened to him on
a set where he was filming a video and he
had a crop in the set. That's really where this
came from. He didn't come out of prison, he was
given a part and so who could have a new beginning?
And the officers who in this particular case, they came
(07:38):
at him as though he was a terrorist and he
was on a set.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Failing for a video.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
They gave him a gun charge for that, and he
thought that the officers who did this were all investigated
and fired.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So I look at the elements of what happened to
the young man.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So one thing I know, the prison has great respect
for you and really values your opinion. Already, I think
we have four partons outside the January sixth Guys, how
many do you think you'll recommend by the time the
four years are done?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
There are I've been entrusted with this position, Brian, and
I can't give you a number, But I can tell
you this is that I will be carefully reviewing all
cases that come there. I've got a team around me.
They also vet these cases. It's not just my eyes
looking at these cases. They go to attorneys and they
(08:26):
pull up their background, They do a risk assessment on them.
They look at the elements of the crime and then
comes that and then I go it goes ego further vented.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Alice Mary Johnson. Very important job. I hope everyone who's
getting these partons and commutations realize the opportunity you are
giving them.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Listening to what she said there, and I got to
tell you she knows these cases well. She talks about
this rapper who, by the way, said terrible things about
Donald Trump, and she's like the police officer that came
after him were fired after they were investigated. It was
a prop on a set, is how they sent him
(09:08):
to prison.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So when you look at that and the overall.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Information that's being given here, it's pretty clear that the
president saying, whether you hate me or not, I'm going
to look at your case and I'm going to look
and see if it's something that you deserve or not
and if you should be given a second chance, that's incredible.
Major win for Donald Trump yet again on tariffs, as
(09:33):
an appeals court on Thursday stayed the ruling of the
US Court of International Trade that had blocked President Trump's
Liberation Day tariffs. Translation, the tariffs are back in effect.
The US Court of International Trade issued an injunction on
Wednesday night, ruling that President Donald Trump's Liberation Day quote
(09:54):
unquote tariffs were illegal. The White House filed emotion to
stay the ruling, and the tariffs were reinstated Thursday afternoon.
As CNBC noted shortly after the White House slammed the ruling,
here's the White House Press Secretary and her statement clearly
coming from the Oval Office.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Last night, the Trump administration faced another example of judicial overreach.
Using his full and proper legal authority, President Trump imposed
universal tariffs and reciprocal tariffs on Liberation Day to address
the extraordinary threat to our national security and economy posed
by large and persistent annual US goods trade deficits. The
(10:35):
United States has run a trade deficit of goods every
year since nineteen seventy five. In twenty twenty four, our
trade deficit in goods exceeded one trillion dollars. Everybody agrees
this is unacceptable. President Trump is delivering on his promise
to fix this problem, and he has taken a long
overdue and much needed, bold stance for American workers after
(11:00):
decades of our manufacturing base being hollowed out. The President's
rationale for imposing these powerful tariffs was legally sound and
grounded in common sense. President Trump correctly believes that America
cannot function safely long term if we are unable to
scale advanced domestic manufacturing capacity. How our own secure critical
(11:20):
supply chains and our defense industrial base is dependent on
foreign adversaries. Three judges of the US Court of International
Trade disagreed and brazenly abused their judicial power to usurp
the authority of President Trump to stop him from carrying
out the mandate that the American people gave him. These
judges failed to acknowledge that the President of the United
(11:41):
States has core foreign affairs powers and authority given to
him by Congress to protect the United States economy and
national security. Congress had created the National Emergency Act to
provide the congressional framework to strike down improper iepa use
and any questions over whether President Trump improperly imposed these
IEPA tariffs were already adjudicated in Congress. Following Liberation Day.
(12:03):
Congress firmly rejected an effort led by Senator Ran Paul
and Democrats to terminate the president's reciprocal tariffs. The courts
should have no role here. There is a troubling and
dangerous trend of unelected judges inserting themselves into the presidential
decision making process. America cannot function if President Trump, or
any other president for that matter, has their sensitive diplomatic
(12:25):
or trade negotiations railroaded by activist judges. President Trump is
in the process of rebalancing America's trading agreements with the
entire world, bringing tens of billions of dollars in tariff
revenues to our country, and finally ending the United States
of America from being ripped off. These judges are threatening
to undermine the credibility of the United States on the
(12:45):
world stage. The Administration has already filed an emergency motion
for a stay pending appeal and an immediate administrative stay
to strike down this degregious decision, but ultimately the Supreme
Court must put an end to this for the sake
of our constitution in our country.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Not only is Carolyn Levin correct in what she said there,
but saying that the court has no role in this
the way that she described it, She's absolutely right about
that as well. Donald Trump saying this quote, I don't
chicken out on tariffs. It's called negotiations, also talking about
how he is willing to work with other countries, but
he's not going to have America taken advantage of anymore.
(13:23):
The NEC director Hassett also was on Maria Bartromo show
on Fox Business this morning, and here is what he
had to say as well about the negotiations, the tariffs,
and the courts.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Gentleman as White House nationallyc and I'm a Council Director,
Kevin Hasset. Kevin, good to see you.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
I think the reporters at this point know how to
talk to President Trump by using the term chickening out.
What's your reaction?
Speaker 8 (13:50):
Yeah, well, actually, I think if President Trump had just
a minute more, if you go back into the room
behind the oval, he's got all his hats and things
over there, Yes, and he has a hat which is
the accurate response to what that person said, which is
Trump always wins. Go Look, a lot of people aware
that had Trump always wins and Trump was always right,
those are the two. But Trump does always win these
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negotiations because we're right. We're right that America has been
mishandled by other governments, that our tariffs are taking them
to the table, and they're coming in with massive concessions,
opening up their markets to our products and lowering their
tariffs on us. And so this trade negotiation season has
been really, really effective for the American people, and it's
(14:33):
unfortunate that people would attack it as the journalists did,
or the way the judges just do.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Did you know that these activist.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Judges are trying to slow down something right in the
middle of really important negotiations. And the idea that the
FENTONL crisis in America is not an emergency is so
appalling to me that I'm sure that when we appeal
that this decision will be overturned.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I mean the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of nineteen
seventy seven is that the courts are deeming to say, look,
this does this does not equate to an emergency under
this Act of nineteen seventy seven. I know that the
lawyers from the administration immediately appealed, But what do you
(15:16):
want to say about this right now strike down.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Of these global tariffs?
Speaker 7 (15:24):
What happens in the interim now, Kevin.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Well, what's going to happen is, first we're going to
see what happens out appeal and are very confident in
our success there because, after all, hundreds and hundreds of
thousands of Americans have died because of mostly Chinese fentinel
and a Chinese sentinel coming in from Mexico and Canada.
And the idea that having more people die from fentanyl
than died in the Vietnam War and that that's not
an emergency that we need to use every power that
(15:49):
we have to try to address is ludicrous to me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But the second thing is that.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
The trade law is very complex, and this part of
the trade law is the thing that was most accurately used,
that very precisely used by USTR Trade Representative Javison Gear,
because this is the one where we actually have the
most authority for doing what we're exactly doing. But there
are three or four other ways to do it, and
(16:14):
we don't have to go into the numbers right now,
I think everybody will go back to sleeper. But the
fact is that there are things that measures that we
could take with different numbers that we could start right now.
There are different approaches that would take a couple of
months to put these in place and using procedures that
have been approved in the past, were approved in the
last administration. But we're not planning to pursue those right
(16:36):
now because we're very, very confident that this really isn'tcorrect.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And sure enough, the ruling was incorrect, and that's why
there's such confidence there from him on this. Pierre Navarro
at the White House, obviously dealing with a lot of
the trade issues as well, was asked about this. And
by the way, Donald Trump has also come out with
a new statement and he said tariffs are actually helping,
(17:02):
not hurting Americans. Some of the media I've been saying, oh,
it's turning Americans, turning Americans. He said, no, that's not
what's happening here. You're wrong that the cost of the terroriffs.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Is that an acknowledgement that it is. Where somebody's been there,
the teriff's not work.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Sometimes the country will eat it, sometimes Walmart will eat it.
And sometimes it will be something to be pay something extra.
I've always been a fan, and I've always believed. And
if you look, take a look at what I did
four years ago. We had the greatest economy and we
had no inflation. Remember that we had no inflation. And
yet we had hundreds of billions of dollars of tariffs
(17:42):
that I put on China. Yet we had no inflation.
We had no big cost differential. Oftentimes, and don't I
don't like it when the Department serve because they'll do
a lot of business, but you know, they announced record
profits and everything else, they have to take out some
of their profits. I'll make a little bit less money.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
But I don't want I don't want the consumer.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
I don't want the consumer to pay. Why Europa, they're
not hurting, they're helping because they're creating jobs. In America.
We're creating tremendous amounts of jobs in America like you've
never seen. We're having investment in America. We're not getting
ripped off by every country in the world. We've been
ripped off by every country in the world. They're making
their product, they sell it. They don't give our people
(18:24):
the jobs. They make them with other countries' jobs, and
we will have something that nobody will ever see again.
I think, I think we have a potential to do
numbers that we never envisioned in the wild. As yere
look at look at what's happening ten to twelve threellion
dollars in literally a couple of months. It's not nothing
(18:46):
like that's ever happened. It's a very special We're doing
a very special thing we want if they're going to
sell it here. Generally speaking, not for all products. There's
some products we don't want to make. Frankly, we're much
better off getting getting them elsewhere. But for certain products
who want cars, we want to make cars.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We don't want to have an il like Canada very much.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Isn't it amazing to have someone like this in office
who actually puts the American worker first, who also doesn't
allow for these just straight up lies that are coming
out to continue to be said.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And that is the part that we should all be
so thankful for.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You can follow this next story under the category of
you don't hate the deep State enough and exactly what
they've been hiding from you.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
The FBI Deputy Director Dan.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Bongino has announced the discovery of a previously undisclosed room
at the FBI headquarters containing a trove of documents from
former Director James Comey's tenure. Bongino described the room as
quote hidden from us, and noted that many of the
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materials were not processed through standard FBI procedures such as
digitization or proper cataloging. Some documents were reportedly found stored
in bags, raising concerns about potential mishandling of evidence during
Comy's tenure. Bongino also emphasized the FBI's commitment to transparency,
(20:20):
stating that efforts are now underway to to classify these materials.
Here is more of James Comy talking about all of
this on Fox and Friends.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
As of Jim Comey, because he cannot control himself and
his emotions, he is a child, He is a big child.
Then let me tell you one more thing. Jim Comey,
who wants you to Jim Comey taking a shot at
the president. Oh look at me. I'm such a victim.
The President's going after me. He's making a ton of
money on this book. The only person that got prosecuted
was the president. Jim Comey, we're finding stuff even now wait,
(20:53):
you read the stuff that's coming out.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Does does he still have loyalists in the building, Because
when I hear the FBI director saying, you guys are
finding boxes that are hidden, Okay, how does that happen
in the bureau?
Speaker 10 (21:07):
Well, we were there a couple of weeks and luckily
there are a lot of people up there who grabbed
us by the arm the middle. We came in and said,
thank you for being here. You know, we need to talk.
There are people there who are really horrified at what happened.
And there was a room and we found stuff, a
lot of stuff hidden room. I wouldn't call it hidden,
(21:29):
but hidden from us at least and not mentioned to us.
And then we found stuff in there and a lot
of it's from the Komi era. And we are working
our damn this right now to declassifying. Just so you know,
because I get the public, I totally understand people saying
we'll do it now.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
The process is not.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
All the information is ours to classify some as other
intelligence agencies.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's not.
Speaker 10 (21:50):
We literally can't do it. Once that gets done and
that gets out there, and you read some of the
stuff we found that, by the way, was not processed
through the normal procedure digitizing, putting in FBI records were
found it in bags hiding under Jim call. Yeah, you're
going to be stuck.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
There's one thing that Dan Bongino made very clear. It
is a process that he wants to be transparent with
the American people, and the declassification of these materials is underway.
He as you heard him say, it's complex because many
of these issues involve other intelligence agencies and the FBI
does not have the right to classify their intelligence.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I also assured you that once the appropriate processes are completed,
the findings will be shared, and he anticipates that the
revelations will be quote significant.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Now. This development also aligns.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
With broader insues by the current FBI leadership, including the
Director Cash Mattel, to revisit and bring transparency to past investigations.
These efforts encompass re examining high profile cases such as
the January sixth pipe bomb, the twenty twenty two dob
Supreme Court leak, and the twenty twenty three discovery of
(23:06):
cocaine at the White House. Now, the actions from the
FBI now reflect a renewed focus on accountability and restoring
public trust in the FBI. The agency's provocative steps to
uncover and address pass oversights demonstrate a commitment to upholding
the integrity of their operations, something that Donald Trump promised
(23:28):
every American if he was re elected, and he's making
good on that promise now. In the issue of transparency,
the FBI has made it very clear they're willing to
answer questions, have conversations, and the FBI Director Cash Bettel
set down with Brett Barett Fox News and what did
he ask him? Well, several questions including what keeps you
(23:50):
up at night?
Speaker 11 (23:52):
What's the thing that keeps you up at night?
Speaker 12 (23:55):
The CCP for a whole host of reasons. We haven't
even talked about their cyberspc our campaign, what they're doing undersea,
what Russia's doing over head in terms of space, and
their cyber intrusion capabilities like Salt Typhoon. They have made
wildly successful penetrations into our telecommunications infrastructure. And what they
(24:15):
do is they suck up our information. Breton, this is
what keeps me up at night. They're playing the long game.
The Fentyl production by the CCP, I firmly believe is
their way of killing tens of thousands of military age
men and women in the United States of America. They
are wiping out generations of Americas that could come here
(24:36):
and be an FBI agent. All right, So let's just
talk to the future here.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
How do you see this the job?
Speaker 12 (24:42):
Is it different than you thought it was coming in?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
How do you look at a big picture?
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Look, there's two ways I look at it. One, you're
talking to a first generation Indian kid whose parents fled
genocide and their sons now the director of the FBI
only in America, literally only in America. So I wanted
to inspire people to come to places like this and
train with us and serve this country. The other thing
that I want people to take away from that is
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there is no job on God's green Earth that prepares
you to lead an agency or department. There isn't anyone
who tells you otherwise is flat out lying or being
politically preposterous. And I learn every single day I learn
from the leadership team. I have folks in there around
my table every morning who come from so many different
walks of life, people I disagree with on a daily basis,
(25:34):
and I'm so glad that they're in that room, because
they are the ones helping me make these decisions. What
we won't stand for is people turning around on social
media and attacking folks who are doing the job. We
will stand up for them. We will also out anyone
who violates their oath of office at the FBI, Intel
analyst agents, support staff. What happened, we already have and
(25:55):
every time we do. Brett, this is the thing the
media doesn't pick up on. We announce it, but I
don't take a victory lap. It's all out there. Dozens
of people have been dealt with for politicizing the FBI,
for weaponizing it. Everything from Hunter Biden's laptop to January
sixth to Neil Team six and everything else has been
dealt with, and we keep going.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I expect we're going to get a lot more information
out of the FBI, as transparency seems to be the
number one thing the President and cashpertteller advocating for.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Don't forget Grab.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
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