The local turkey (27 November 2025)

Marcus talks the Erebus Memorial decision, and the continued lunacy of wanting NZ to host the Commonwealth Games.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
B How about this heat? Oh wow, goodness gracious to me.
So a lot's happening currently tonight. It's very hot. Not
is it very hot. It's always And I don't know
if I'm a lone voice on this. It's quite hard
to it's not quite hard. There are added challenges to
drive on these very hot sunny evenings because the sun's

(00:32):
coming right into your eyes. You're finding that probably a
bit later down south, with the sky coming a bit
bigger later. But anyway, so there we go. If there's
some extraordinary tempicture that you've got. I was driving it
was twenty nine degrees, which I thought was weird. It
was hot it wasn't expected, but cooler by the time
I got to Bluff, but gog hot as heck. So anyway,
we've got a couple of fires. I think there's three.

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There's one on the road between Matda and Waimumu. There's
one at Goodward that's that big monument on the hill
that you can climb behind there, and there's another one
I'm not quite sure where that was, I think by Balcluther.
But if you've got the eye. If you are driving
in that area or are Johnny on the spot, let
us know. If you've got updates about that, it'd be
good to hear from you. They appear to be forestry blocks.

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I'm not quite sure why forestry blocks are going up
in Smoke, so I don't know the full details there.
The one near me Toda, nine trucks two helicopters are tackling,
so the highways expected to close overnight, and there's six
trucks and three helicopters with the ones and the pines
and way Mumu. There's also a plea a smoldering tree

(01:49):
near Whitstone, which is not a place I know there
though that might be a typo. And there's one on
the outskirts of Balcluther. But that's a situation I've got
for you. If you've got any more information about that,
get in touch. I'd like to hear from you. Oh
eight hundred and eighty and text that happened. You would
have heard on the news too. About the Arabis memorial.

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It's not my choice, but then again it's not my decision.
I would have thought the right place for that would
be in Auckland. And I think it's a tragedy that
people were such nimbis that they refused to put that
where I think the families mainly wanted it to be.

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And I think it always was about the families, and
I think it always needed to be at the place
where most families were from, and it was a flight
that departed Auckland for the Antarctic, and that's where I
think the memorial should have been. Although I have heard
some of the scutch on the radio from families that
are pleased to some families of people that are pleased

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it's in christ Jdche, I don't necessarily like the way
that some people in Christige also, and this might sound uncharitable,
have talked about it like it's I don't think there's
it's not a terrorist thing. This is a place of
solitude for families. That was my understanding. I think the
way it's been portrayed with some of the media as
though this is a good get for christ Church, I

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don't think that's the right angle of that one at all.
But I do also like to acknowledge that the people
of christ Church have done very well with that memorial
for the quake, the one on the river. That's a
very peaceful and solemn place, so well done with that.
So anyway, tomorrow is the anniversary of Erebus. Yes, so

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twenty eighth of November, I'm almost certain about that, and
nineteen seventy nine, so long time now, so hopefully that
memorial will be in there by the time for the
fifty years. But yeah, it has not been. This has
not been a good chapter for New Zealand, the fight

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for justice and the fight for memories. So just want
to put that out. I don't know the place this
Craycroft Reserve. I don't know where that is. I've wanted
fear bit around the porthills. I tried to find it
the reserve and it wasn't. It didn't kind of mesh
up where with where I thought it was. But you
might want to mention that anyway, get in touch if

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you want to talk about that also tonight, so feel
free to come through. Also, you've got temperatures updates. If
you've got something to say about that, it'd be nice
to hear from you tonight, So get in touch if
you want to. I'm just looking where Craycroft. I don't
know if it's Crarecroft or Craycroft Reserve. I don't know
how it's named. It's just hard from Google Google Maps
to work out the elevation and how much of you

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there is from there. But people seem to be happy
with that. Anyway, do get in touch you want to
come through. As I say, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty and nine to nine two to text. I keep
those texts on if there's anything I want. Well, by
the way too, if you've got a Thanksgiving update for us,
because you will be well. I guess if you're listening
from overseas, you'll be coming to the end of it.

(05:06):
If you're a that's celebrating fact Thanksgiving, let me know
how that went for you. I'd like to cover that
off in some ways. I don't know why, but I
felt a bit of a day ahead of everything. I've
thought today was Friday. I thought least day was Thursday,
so I was not discompopulated with the days. But if
you have got something to say about that, if you
have got a take on Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving is quite famous

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in the radio world because of the episode of WKRP
in Cincinnati, which was one of the great radio sitcoms.
I don't know when that would have been around the
late seventies early eighties. But they had a Turkey drop,
which is a real famous episode of WKRP in Cincinnati,
but the frozen turkey, So yeah, it was famous.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Ax.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You often talk about that TV show has been one
that was. It was not one I've already watched, but
it was more famous for that. But you might have
a Thanksgiving story for us to kick it off with tonight,
and that would be good to hear from you about that,
So do get in touch. Oh eight hundred and eighty
day and nine two nine two texts. So we've got
the fires, we've got Erebus, and we've got Thanksgiving that
we'll do for starters. If you want to breach the

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fray and be first din, it'd be good to hear
from you. Anything else you want to talk about, feel
free to get involved. Pretty loose this time tonight. I
mean it's Friday, it's Thursday, but it's almost Friday, and
it's almost the end of the year, which means we
get slightly looser, I would think. So here's be in touch.
If you want to talk here till midnight tonight. Anything
else you want to check into the mix, good I'm

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happy to hear from you. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine to text you want to be
a part of it. Speaking of texts, I look at
what we've got fourteen past day. You keep those texts
coming through people. By the way, how about this heat

(07:00):
fan mcginnon's come early. Marcus went to kmart here in Nelson.
They only had one fan left in the staff. We'en
sure if they're getting more fans in before Christmas, Nevil
from Nelson. Nice to hear from your Neville. Wow, oh goodness, graciously,
I did see on Facebook somewhere that New Zealand was
keen for the Commonwealth Games, a bid after our member

(07:25):
omen A bad So can I just say off the
bat now that I could not be further opposed than
anything the New Zealand game for the Commonworth Games in
twenty thirty four. I think that would be a waste
of money on something that no one's ready that into. Yeah,
so just to shut the discusche off at the chase,

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I would be extremely opposed. So just so you know,
I think probably it's one of those things that christ
Church might ask for. The New Zealand Olympic Committee is
pursuing a bid to bring the twenty thirty for Commonwealth
Games to New Zealand. It's dead on the vine, isn't it.

(08:13):
So that's me got off the Olympic Committee n z
OC chief executive Nicki Nickel indicated their expressive interest was
gaining traction. We really appreciated the support we had from
the secrets of the government for this expression of interest.
We'd love to host the Common Games here in twenty
thirty four. Of course we've had it three times. We've

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had in Auckland and fifty something. We've had it in
christ Church, which was the best the peak of the
commonweth Games in seventy four, then in Auckland in nineteen ninety,
which wasn't quite as good. So he is very much
opposed to that. And I don't know why Nicki Nickel,
who she is, has tried to go for that. Anyway,
there's some of the stuff that's happening for me and

(08:55):
be in touch. If you want to talk, let me
just get me a drink where I put it. I've
lost my drink. Hang on a's minor panic. Not there,
I can say it. I've got a visual hold your horses.
People Oh, what's that thing? What's that thing? You see
that pops up on the videos where people sing what's
going on? Then they go in to a rap on

(09:16):
the other side. Where's that come from? I feel I
need to go into one of those no ya memes.
I happen to watch it day now. I can't stop
singing the song anyway. There might be something I see
that told sir kea stammer did six seven that wasn't good,
got told off by the teacher. He Prime Minister of
the UK Marcus. Do we have turkey farms in Newsandra?
They brought and frozen from overseas? Very good question. I've

(09:39):
never seen a turkey farm. I've never been one of
those one of those bougie country markets and they've had
fresh turkey. I've never seen it. I suspect they're all
from overseas. A lot of texts esh Burton had thirty
one point six degrees today. It was the twenty third
days over twenty five degrees this summer. Wow, here comes
that summer. My mother's birthday is tomorrow. She was inches

(10:04):
away from getting on the Arab's flight as a birthday
give to yourself and pulled the pin last minute. What
a horrible point in New Zealand history. Interesting to think
our entire family wouldn't exist if she decided to board
Marcus Noveber twenty seventh, Great day shooting my birthday with
the late great Jimmy Hendrix. Yeah, jumping Commonwealth Games is

(10:32):
on the list. But yeah, I've got yeah. I know
that people like it, but I have a strong visceral
response to that. Why do I say that just because
I think of the past that people have kind of
told me off for being negative. But there's there's been
negative and there's been smart. There's two different things. I
think any who eight hundred and eighty eight nine two detects.

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If you have got updates on those fires that are
happening down south, let us know there's three of them,
very very strong ones. I don't quite know how much
damage has been done. They weren't as strong as the
winds of November. Sure were they wins in November or

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they are in October. But that storm, which still has
got a name for that devastated Southland. I thought of
calling it blow to five, which I thought was quite good.
I just don't know the day for it because I've
gonn have a It's kind of a catchy name for
it because they always talk about the big Snow. What
was that one we talked about in Canterbury that was

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called dan Was there? What it was called like in
the in the early seventies? Was it the big Snow?
Was it the big Blow? Was it the big snow?
The big blow? Was the big blow?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
What I mean? I think you might be right with
a big blow? There was articles about it. I will
check myself too. There was features about it. Wasn't it
seventy two? Yeah, there's a big blow, definitely the big
Blow August one, seventy five. So I think the one
here needs the In Vicago one is big called blow
two five. Anyway, what's happening people? If you want to

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come through, feel free, lines are free, all on. There's
a lot to talk about. Tonight's slow start. That's all right.
I can cope. Is I try and find you breaking
news to tell you, but get in touch anyway. Well,
they are getting people ready to evacuate. This is the

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fire in Palmerston, Otago. Yeah, and nearby resident told the
ODT they are preparing to evacuated of the fire clumbs
close to their property be quite frightening. There's a lot
a bush around. It looks like this is one little
burn itself out. That's my look from Google Earth. Anyway,
enough for me. Twenty past eight, twenty three past eight

(12:56):
markets Marcus, Welcome and good.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Evening, okod Marcus. The the Arabus tragedy. So I'm eight
years old, two days away from turning nine, and there's
a kafuffle in the lounge at home, and the lights
are on, and myself and my sister are in the

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back bedroom, your little kids in a small home, and
I could hear talking. So I got up, puck my
head out the door, and mom and dad come here,
come here. So I sat there with them, and we
saw Murray Chandler come on the news. I don't know

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who was running it for TV one, might have been
Phil Sherry or Google Stevenson. It was late at night,
and he said, the planes run out of fuel. That
would have run out of fuel by now, so and
they're not home. We don't know where they are. So

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that was just shocked on the horror of understanding that
you know where they were potentially lost. And I saw
another doco the other day. We should never have sent
people down there to recover anything. She should have left it.
She had absolutely left it and let then.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
They are in their own private hell too, weren't they.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
They were, and the people that went in there to
recover that, they were just traumatized to bed about just
Cinderadune's dad and the nightmares and things like that that
those men and people experienced that went down there. But
you also mentioned last night, which when we spoke, I
didn't think it was appropriate to bring up given the
subject that we were talking about, But you mentioned about

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the helicopter crash on the Oakham Motorway in ninety seven.
In ninety eight, I went to work a company called
two two Consulting, who was installed the SAP computer system
into Mercury Energy and New Market. It was a new
job for me, new job for a lot of people.
Was put together team and my colleague and we shared

(15:18):
a cubicle. This lovely lady. She had a picture of
a helmet on her desk and we got a few
weeks chatting. I asked her about the helmet. She was
the widow of the pilot.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh wow, And.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
She told me this story of their life together and
how they met when they were very young, and they
had these plans and how she had to train each
other up from young people to understand each other's globals
and qualities, and they sounded like such a beautiful couple

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headed in the right direction in life. She had a
strong professional career. He was obviously a I highly thought
after pilot to have to have that position, and it
was just sort of tragic to be confronted by somebody
so young, so on their way, and to have such
an unexpected loss at that time in their life when

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everything was opening up for them, And often wonder sort
of how it's all panned out in the last twenty
seven years. I hope it's gone really well for that lady,
because she was a really lovely person, really really kind
gentle and you could see you could tell why man
would have wanted to marry. It was one of those things.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
But on the on the do you want to pivot?
Do you want to pivot to? The calm games also too,
just kind of I expect everything you say in the
way you say, but maybe we'll do a bit of
a light bit of lightness in that as well as
you can.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
It's light.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Calm games. I think it's long done. I completely support
your position. It's just crazy. Look if they had track
and field and swimming and cycling, I think that would
be simple, easy, But they won't want to do that.
They always want to bring in additional sports and try
and me mini Olympics. So I think it's done.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think seventy I think seventy four was the peak.
I don't think it's got better than then. I think
it's just a slow death on the vine.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Look, you look at seventy eight as Edmonton. Yeah, eighty
two is Brisbane, eighty six is Edinburgh, nineties Auckland, ninety
four is k ol I think, yeah, that's right, is it?
K ninety eight is I have no idea when ninety
eight ers have no idea? What two thousand and two
is four six or ten?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's no longer memorable.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
No, no, it's it's it's slipped off the look. I
actually think it's an indulgence for these athletes.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
It's indulgence for this, It's indulgence for written to and
the empire. I mean, I mean, she is mean, how
did that work out? Not God, you know, not good.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
At and look, I think with the passing of the Queen,
I think we respectfully say, would that goes some traditions
that she was obviously very supportive of. But I think, no,
You've got the World champs in your event, You've got

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pan packs and all these other different events, and you've
got the pinnacle in the Olympics or World Championships. Would
you you want comwalalth games? Is really who I'm hearing you?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Thanks so much, Mark, keep your calls through about that.
Also the Erabus memorial. What a long time to make
a decision? How embarrassing? Oh well, just free, mindful every time.
Then it's his wildfires always look at that song. I
love that song, that Michael Murphy song, and it's just

(19:06):
such a poetic word wildfire. It's quite the opposite of
what it means, doesn't it wild? Anyway? I don't know
who else got airwormb by that my two radio ear wormbs.
Every time I hear about Sylvia Parker, I think of
Sylvia's mother, And every time I hear wildfire, I think
of that song. Marcus. Listening to your caller on now,
most respectful and wise, Thank you, Kristen. Reforest fires rare

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resonance trees often have their resin seep out, often forming blisters.
These can act like a magnifying glass. Heat intensification when
strong sun shines through such resin blisters can cause ignition
of such volatile fuel. I was just wondering if anything
it was to do with the damage with the big wind,
the blow to five that they had had caused that

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to I don't know, I don't know how that could happen. Marcus,
fucker Tanney should change the name of their town to
dead Horse? What do why that is? Anyway? Let's be
hearing from your people all. There's pity of topics out there. Marcus.
There used to be a turkey farm near esh Burton

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mcclosed a few years ago. Can you get a local turkey?
And suit joke?

Speaker 8 (20:17):
Here?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I can tell you how local turkey is, Marcus, you
know what I mean the way I hope you know
what I mean When looking for the cheap laugh these days,
aren't they back at your people? Eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty nine nine two de text I'm looking
for a locally sourced turkey. I'm also wondering how much
long we need to wait for cherries. They're not in

(20:40):
the shops yet. And I thought the end of November
you get your first one.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Go.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I tell you what November is dragging, isn't it? What
a slow month that was till about four or five
days left to go. But be in touch the Erabus
memorial and the com These are good talkback topics. You
will be at the barbecue now. I want to be
good and lost in the radio because the weather is
so fantastic everywhere. Who will be listing this time of
the night? Uberists? But do come through if you want to.

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In fact, I couldn't even get a car park outside
work today. I don't know what people be in town doing.
Got just to get the view from it is quite
elevated reserve, Craycroft Reserve, it's high, there's a view over
christ Jurch. I just don't know about the appropriateness of

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it being there. That's all I want to say about that.
But we have discussed this, but that's just my views
on it felt like a bit of a nimby thing
to me that no one wanted it here. Anyway, Welcome people.
Name is Marcus Hittle twelve. If you do want to talk,
there's anything else you want to mention, I am here
for it. If you've got other different topics. That's good.

(21:50):
I can do different I can do different topics, whatever
they may be. What are the other topics? Actually, no
new measle cases. Black Friday tomorrow, Thanksgiving today. Black Friday
is a shopping day. It's an internet thing. It's just
happened recently. Yeah, that's my take. I don't think the

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news is going to come good out of Hong Kong
the next day or two with those fires. That just
seemed extraordinary.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Anyway, the Craycroft Reserve two hundred and one meters elevation.
Thank you for the person that's sent that through, so
we now know that not far from the side of
the Takahay if you know where that is. So it
is a high spot. It's elevated, if that's what you
want for a memorial. Twenty five away from nine back

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at you got an update from Foreign Emergency. New Zealand
have responding to a number of vegetation fires across Otago
and Southland. I think it's going to be a very
fiery kind of a summer. This will be their last
communication for the night. Here are the updates. But Toda
firefighters were called for foreign and forestry blocking and a
Toda around two ten three hundred b and size. Our

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crews have it contained. Stateho ninety six is close with
Staate one and why Moomoo because of the fire remain closed.
Overnight power has been reinstated. Palmerston firefighters continue to respond
with pine fire and their goodwood fire has been twenty
five hectares of pine. No structures at risk. People in

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the vicinity who keep it alls in, the windows shut
and stay inside. The peddic nearb out Pluther is under
controlled clues record around one pm and this is all
because of the wind. Don't leave them to smolder. So
if you've got fires, you don't do burnings in this.
I think that's probably a fireband. Now they should be
good evening, Catherine, this is Marcus. Welcome Pi.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
Marcus. It's funny that you well, it's not funny. It's
sad that we're talking about Arabs because it was a
pretty bad moment in time for New Zealand. But remembering
the people that we lost on those planes is quite significant.
And we were at Way Committee Cemetery here in West

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Aalkland today going for a walk looking for a relative
headstone and came across a memorial at the back of
a crematorium and it has the West Aalkland people with
names on it that passed in the air crash.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
Okay, I thought that was pretty cool and I just
did a search on about it and there's a little
bit on the world wide webs as you know. Yeah,
I just thought it was very special and just wanted
to share that that they you know, they were remembered

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here in West Salkland.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And look, I know that every year I kind of
have to relearn a lot of the stuff. But I
also think that I also think that there were and
this is a bit grim, but there were unidentified people
and those people were interred were buried at White Committee too,
so there's probably a memorial and also it's probably I
think the memorial is above where those people are. Is

(25:21):
that right?

Speaker 11 (25:23):
Ah?

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Oh, I'm not sure. It's right behind the crematorium. So yeah,
it has the Japanese cherry trees planted around it and
it's just from the Japanese. Thereb family Arabis Society.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Okay, yes, because there were quite a number of there
were quite a number of Japanese on that flight.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
Yeah, that's interesting, that's right. There were and there were
besides the crew that went up. There were a few
that were pilots and stewardess that went on the flight
for their own private reasons. Okay, well yeah.

Speaker 12 (26:10):
Did you have it?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
On a separate topic, Catherine, did you have success finding
your family member?

Speaker 10 (26:16):
We did.

Speaker 9 (26:17):
It was actually really cool. We've done this twice now,
was putting a name in the office and then them them.

Speaker 12 (26:25):
Hunting down forest.

Speaker 13 (26:27):
It was very good.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
One one in particular is out at Pillsburg Cemetery, so
that's a very old.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I love that one year.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
Year.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
It's the best place to go and sit on the
grave and have fish and chips in the bourbon.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I've never known the process. You contact the office two ways.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
You can do it through their web page, or you
can go to an office. At any of the burial
cemetery there's usually an office. And today we just gave
the name and she said, we've got it's in row two.
It's plot one one nine. And once we found where

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we were. They're not very good navigators of these mats
we found here.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay, so yeah, okay, that's that. What's that person called
that work? Is that a sex? Is that a sixter? No,
that's just the person that runs through.

Speaker 9 (27:26):
No, I don't know, but let's make a name.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, no, I'm sure there is a name. I think
that the sext it is with an ature. I'll find out, Catherine.
Keep listening. Someone will tell us we need topics, so
we might talk about that. You're into your You're relating
with people that work at cemeteries to find graves. That's interesting.
And also, ye are they called sixter? I don't know

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what they're called. Who would you go and see? People?
Let me know? Come through and text thanks, Catherine. Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine to
the text Hitle twelve. Keep your texts coming through. No
barbecuing on the carpitty coast persisting down, warm, muggy and
drizzling Marcus about the conwork games. What the couch patoes

(28:18):
has happened to New Zealanders rejecting the idea of the
games held here. Apart from encouraging participation in sports that
showcases our country, I don't think it really would just
showcase some half empty pavilion. I would think they always
cost a fortune, they never make that money. They're always
a disaster, and they always build facilities. They're of no

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use afterwards, Marcus just wondering why New Zealand is shocking
for remembering disasters. Arabas just decide on where to put
a memorial after all, this time also took till nineteen
eighty nine to play some memorial for the Tongue of
Waite disasters, thought Steve, you don't know what. Yeah, I

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don't know. It took so long for time. I know
there is something at the kelbert is it where it
is the Kelbernie Cemetery. I think there is a big
memory there for the tongue away. Yeah, I don't know what.
I don't know why that is, and I don't know
how important it is to families to have a memorial.
I think probably Erebus was unique because it was a

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New Zealand disaster that did not happen on New Zealand land,
which made you a very unique circumstance. And the site
of the extent was not only inaccessible, but it's even
in terms of an antactic you can't really go there
because it's significant scientific area, so it's out of bounds,

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so it becomes a very very difficult place to go to.
Someone said there's a website called find a Grave. Didn't
know that that's interesting. You might have a story for
trying to find a family member's grave. How did that
work out for you? And what did you do? And
what he's up for a kind of a detective story
like that. Being touched be a part of it, he
tel twelve. There'll be other stuff tonight. I'm just not

(30:05):
quite sure what they'll be. Breaking news, no doubt, and
be in touch or give us a call if you
want to do that. The death toll in Hong Kong
is fifty five. I have already read many details of
the story because it all seem so grim. But they

(30:26):
did appear to be cladding on the outside, like netting.
Was that flammable? I don't know about that. The three
people arrested were from the construction company. I don't know
what kind of sprinklers they would have had or what
sort of fire escapes. But it does not look good.

(30:48):
One of the survivors, sorry, one of those unaccounted for,
her husband, spoke when the fire started. I told on
the phone to escape, But once you left the flat,
the coroner and stairs were filled with smoke. It was dark,
so she had no choice to go back to the flat.

(31:10):
The husband's waiting a shelter overnight.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
So that was.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
A horrifying story. A member of the senior member of
the police said, we have reason to believe that those
in charge the construction company were grossly negligent. It does
say suspected authority, suspected cubmetery on the exterior walls of the
high rise bulls did not meet far resistant standards, allowing

(31:37):
the unusually fast spread of the fire, which sounds like
the Grinfield disaster all over again. Police also so they
found styrofiing highly flammable attached the windows and each floor
near the elevator lobby of the one unaffected tower was
believed to have been installed by the construction company, but
the purpose was not clear. The fire started on the
external scaffolding of the city two story tower, then spread

(31:59):
on the bamboo scaffolding and construction netting to the inside
of the building and then to the other buildings, likely
aided by windy and gosh, so wow, I mean, that's
amazing and for a number of ways to a thirty
two story tower with bamboo scaffolding cheapest and there was

(32:20):
an eating on the outside of that thirteen to nine
he Tel twelve my name is Marcus. Welcome. A little
bit up for discussion tonight. Mainly are the Arabus Memorial
and the sighting of that, and also the Calm Games.
Do we want another goal at the two thousand and
thirty four? I say please?

Speaker 12 (32:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Others will want it though they'll think that's it. They
think we have a Calm Games. Even will come here
in big numbers. But I don't think. I don't think
it would jaw that draw the tourists anymore. I don't
think anyone's bucket list thinks bucket list involves go to
a Commonwealth Games. Marcus. I always walk along the Avon
River and Christchurch where there's a beautiful war of remembrance
for the lives lost in christ Church. To Michelle, thank you, Michelle.

(33:00):
Mark is going to be a hot night here in
wy Mattee as it's twenty five degrees right now, Marcus
oversights a cemetery is called a sexton, ah, But I
think there are peculiar difficulties between the words sext now.

(33:24):
I think there are different A graveyards near a church
and a cemetery is without a church, I think, and
I think sexton is just in a graveyard now I'm
prepared to be challenged on that. Oh no, maybe they
work in a symmetry as well, So there's that. Yeah,

(33:47):
that's chat GPT. He would know if they're correct. So
those are the topics so far. We're also talking about
the heat and the fires that are out there, a
lot of fires and certainly some scorching temperatures. Hot is
they have a temperature in Hawk's Bay for November today?
A lot of records are being broken with a temperature.
What do we say about that? I don't know, but

(34:09):
none of it fills me with much hope. We're going
to be a scorching summer. Wait till we get to February.
February wary, it's going to be as hot as heck.
These are discussions for tonight. If you want to join in.
Also getting ready for Christmas. You might be at your
Christmas function? How did that go? How did that go?

(34:31):
Because there's always different trends in Christmas part I imagine
the trend with everyone working at home is not to
have a Christmas party and give people pressy cards or something.
Most always tend to keep up with those treads. Also,
those trends not treads, And yeah, that ghasy story with
that apartment forar in Hong Kong. I don't know what

(34:54):
they were, what the maintenance they were doing on the
towers where they look fairly elderly or fairly old the towers.
Someone might have some information about that. I know that
we've always got people here that probably there's always some
there out there in the world of listeners that will
have some extra insight into something, so that as you
that would be good to hear from you and be

(35:17):
in touch if you want to be a part of
the show, keep those texts coming through, Marcus. For our mothers,
our late mother's eightieth we took her to Melbourne. We
asked to what she would like to do. Her number
one thing was to find ancestors in the Melbourne Cemetery.
We asked the staff that they had the records and

(35:39):
they did. We spent hours there and it made it
made mum's birthday celebrations very special. Rebecca, Yes, I've never
interfaced with a sexton. I guess it's just all online
of us, tap tap, tap tap. Then they get old
files and they walk you around. That might Yeah, that's
an interesting sorre if you've been defined family's graves. That
would do me for a bit of a talkback topic tonight.

(36:00):
So yeah, get in touch if you want to talk.
Oh wait, hundred you know the rest Oh people are
sending him in website, so I guess probably those genealogists
are begone finding. I guess it's a big part of genealogy.
Someone's emailed me from France, thank you for that, And
what they have said is, John is a hello from
toul France. You're coming in down and clear. Billion Graves

(36:24):
is a good symmetry directory, cheers Mac. And it's got
billion graves. You can take pictures, fine headstones, find semmetriies, photos,
requests and photos. So it's nothing I've ever pursued, actually,
But if you want to get online, there's all sorts
of places you going can go and find where people
are buried. And I guess it's a hobby like all

(36:46):
of them, isn't it to go out and find different graves? Marcus.
I traced my grandparents grave on find a Grave website
and when to visit them and why here a few
years ago. They passed away when I was four and
a year later I'm now sixty four. Not fires, but
while who bruins blew the tree branch onto cars. Believe

(37:09):
the main street not sure, but cars barely damaged. Yes,
the sexton is in symmetriies. Notice headstones getting smaller. Someone says, gosh,
it's a text that needs punctuating, Marcus. Why the reluctance
to discuss in depth the climate's abnormalities we're now experiencing

(37:33):
anthropogenic climate change is here now, Jim Well, I guess
you can discuss it, but it's clearly here. But those
that resist will dominate the show, and they are incredibly
tedious to talk to. So that's the reality of it.
To be fair, I'm sure there's websites you can go
and listen to those people go on and on and on,
but there's no joy from it. That's my opinion anyway.

(37:57):
Greetings and good evening with you till twelve o'clock tonight.
Looking forward to what you've got to say. Oh eight
hundred eighty eight nine nine two detect but of everything tonight,
no doubt that's a good thing. So get in touch
on the talk. Peter. This is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
Yeah, I was just called you about sex and yeah,
thank you. Yeah, I used to have meals of one
quite regularly. Well he was my father.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Oh oh that makes sense. Tell me what has and
he was there all his life doing that?

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Was he?

Speaker 7 (38:30):
I did it for a large number of years here.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Because the word I've always known, but so so tell
me what the job involves?

Speaker 7 (38:42):
Involved keeping an eye on the cemetery, keeping stuff of
a list of who the graves, who they've been wrong to,
and getting things ready for funerals. He had to be
at each funeral.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I didn't know that, okay.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
Yeah, and they Pete helped Pop had did the grave.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
So what was his role at each funeral? Just to
see that it was going okay? Is that right? Different
from different from the funeral director?

Speaker 7 (39:17):
Yeah? Yeah, his job was on behalf of the cemetery.

Speaker 14 (39:21):
I think just over old thing.

Speaker 7 (39:22):
I'm not sure that everything was okay?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
And was here at a church? Was there a graveyard
or a cemetery?

Speaker 7 (39:29):
No, no, it's a cemetery.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Okay, of real interesting, Peter, thank you for that, I wondered. Ruth.
It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 15 (39:38):
Oh hi Marcus, how are you?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah? Good? Thank you? Ruth? Are you all right?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (39:43):
Erebus, the Erebus Memorial at Y Committee is not really
intended for the whole as an national memorial. It's mainly
for the sixteen coffins of body parts, yes, which are there.
They're buried in a sort of a semi circle around
the back of where the memorial is. Yes, there's sixteen

(40:07):
coffins in there, and they're identified unidentified, Okay. And the
names on that memorial are the people that weren't their
bodies weren't identified, and you'll see some of them are
being scratched off because people have found their loved one.

Speaker 11 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (40:30):
Right through the cemetery there are people buried in their
family graves that were killed in the erebus. Yeah, okay,
so there's an air hostess and you know, a steward
and also passengers right through the cemetery.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Have you got comments on the location of the memorial?
Is that something that you want to say anything about.

Speaker 15 (40:57):
I didn't like it being it's a dove my I
thought it was inappropriate, sure, cutting on the big old
hood of cars in there. I thought it should have
been somewhere on the flight paths perhaps, or somewhere that
looked to south, somewhere up high that looked south to

(41:19):
the Antarctic.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
That makes sense to me.

Speaker 16 (41:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (41:23):
I used to think about higher places up in Auckland
or South Auckland that looked south towards the Antarctic.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, and you had you had a connection, did your ruth?
I don't say if you don't want to, but is
that is that what your interest is?

Speaker 17 (41:41):
Well?

Speaker 15 (41:41):
I I took walking tours at Way Committee Cemetery my husband.
But there were people there that turned up at the
cemetery quite regularly who had family members in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
What's the most what what? What are the interesting stories
of Way Committee? What's the one that that got your
walking to is really excited?

Speaker 17 (42:06):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (42:07):
Well, people always love the murderers. There's about twenty one
hanged men.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yes, oh is that right? Wow?

Speaker 15 (42:15):
It have been hanged. Yeah, they're all in their own
private graves. They're not people. There's a row of gum
trees that people call the ghost gums. Or that men
weren't hanged in the ghost gums. That's a rumor. That's
not true. They were hanged at mounted in prison. So

(42:38):
there's a great big area that's it looks like it's
a mass burial for the nineteen eighteen flu victims. Yes,
but it isn't. It's got the memorial heads, big stone
there to commemorate them, but that big clear area behind
them isn't actually where any of the victims are buried.

(43:02):
That area behind them is sort of government public graves.
There are people that died in hospitals but had no
family to bury them, that sort of paulpose grave.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, and just with the people that were hanged, that
if you are hanged in this country, that you could
be buried like anyone else. There was nothing that there
was no indignity in the way you were buried. Is
that what you're saying. You could actually have it not
at all.

Speaker 15 (43:34):
Still, rumors that people had were put in standing up
or standing on their heads or something, none of that
was true. They had respectful burials, yeah, because they had family.

Speaker 18 (43:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Do you know a tour is still there? I suppose
with History Week they still do it. They could anyone
get a Tour of Way committee.

Speaker 15 (43:54):
I think there is a small groups still doing tours,
but it's not since COVIDUT COVID put an end to
all of that, and the small little groups are struggling
to stay together that took those tools.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
It is a fascinating place to wander around because you
get great books, great views back of the city as well.
It's a remarkable place.

Speaker 15 (44:15):
Oh yeah, and mausoleum they call it Deli Alley. With
all the mausoleums, it's just it's they're pretty wonderful. And
right now the wildflowers are out and they're just the
carpet of just beautiful pink and purple and white flowers.
It's just beautiful.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Ruth, do you know what happens in a mausoleum? What
happens to the to the bodies in a mausoleum.

Speaker 15 (44:41):
They're in mostly lead lined coffins.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
So they did the bodies stay preserved.

Speaker 15 (44:48):
As well as hopefully hopefully they do. I don't know
about anyone that's been opened up, but.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
I think they are so everything and everything is there's
no supposedly no decibition. Decibition, all remain You remain in
that in the coffin.

Speaker 15 (45:09):
You remain in the coffin. Yet that I don't I know.
You know, the Chinese disinterred bodies to send them back
to China from an area, and they found they were
buried in the ground that they were pretty much liquefied.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Okay, Yeah, there's an amazing story of that that the ship,
the Ventnor that was taking the Chinese deed for the
graveyards back that then sunk, which was a double tragedy
for those people off the Hokianga.

Speaker 8 (45:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (45:37):
Yeah, yeah, they quite a few. A few of those
came from my committee.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Extremely interesting, Ruth think it was an interesting topic. Actually,
finally got a topic of very interested in this, Kevin.
It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 14 (45:50):
Ah, Hi, Marcus. Never thought i'd read you too. Night
in a row there we go. Yeah, I rang it
last night about the Kaiker lights.

Speaker 18 (46:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (46:00):
I was engaged as the assistants siston in the Cargo's
eastern cemetery for some four years, and we also did
the crematorium, and we also had a responsibility for most
of the country cemeteries throughout Southland like we do. We

(46:21):
raised Bush Island, Bank Bluff, Lacon Street and green Point
and all that's a wind in East Windon and all
that sort of thing, so we had quite a heavy
portfolio there. Just to answer a question that was raised,
the sexton's role at the funeral has nothing to do

(46:44):
with the funeral itself. It's purely the committal.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Okay, as an eyewitness, No, you.

Speaker 14 (46:53):
Have to operate the what they call the lowering device.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Okay, so that's a sectons job. That's not the grave. Okay,
the sexton's not a grave digger, yes he is, Okay, understand.

Speaker 19 (47:05):
Yep, you do all that.

Speaker 14 (47:07):
We had an old Fordton front end loader with a
digger attachment on the back at in Chicago, and we
used to dig our own graves also at Saint John's
Cemetery at y Kiwi. So we had to drive the
digger up there, up there, down Herbert Street and then
up the all the way up to Darrel Street.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
How long did take a grave, Well.

Speaker 14 (47:32):
It all depends on the condition of the grave. For example,
in the cargo's a very wet cemetery. I don't want
to go there, yep, No, you wouldn't want to make
it crease the desk.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, every every funeral I've been there has been incredibly
cold ingram yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (47:51):
And they got to they've got to pump there some
immersion pump which we had to use to keep the
grave as drained as possible. And we turn it off
right at the last minute as you see the cortege
turning up and you lift the horse out and we
got it over pretty damn quickly, because there's nothing more
off putting than the coffin floating to.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Think, and I think Green Points probably quite wet too,
isn't it?

Speaker 14 (48:15):
Oh man, it's all sand.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You don't want to go?

Speaker 14 (48:18):
Yeah, no bloomin nightmare.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
What about Stuart Island? Did you go there? Are they dry?

Speaker 18 (48:24):
No?

Speaker 14 (48:25):
No? No winter A good dry cemeteries Windom? So if
you want to be buried and get buried of Windom.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Something else from you, Kevin. As part of your job
is a sixton. Did you oversee any burials at sea?

Speaker 14 (48:41):
No, there's only one place off the New Zealand coast.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Hang on, I'm going to interrupt you. I think I
think there's too I think there's one if O targer
on one off the Bay of Islands.

Speaker 14 (48:51):
All the one wonders off the noises.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think. I think probably
it's fallen out of fashion. Burials at Sea is and
I think you've got to be sort of weighted. You've
got to be a knitting and weighted down. Is that right?

Speaker 19 (49:05):
That is correct?

Speaker 20 (49:06):
Yes, it's correcting.

Speaker 14 (49:07):
You need special permission as well, and it's almost more
difficult and getting a burl. Let's see than getting cremated,
because once you're made it and there's any suspicion about
this cause of death, then you know it's gone.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I'm seeing online there is a guide to burials that
see what I think too, with protocols and things, things
are probably enjoyable. Job given.

Speaker 14 (49:33):
Well, yeah, I enjoyed the drive. I was living in
buff at the time, and where you are and the like.
I enjoyed the drive up there. My little mids are busy.
Fdo you really go in that thing? O?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
God, that's interesting. Enjoyed the drive to work. Good on you, Kevin,
Thank you. You wouldn't enjoy your drive today with those roadworks, boy,
oh boy. If I spend long time on roadworks today
nineteen past nine, we're talking cemeteries and not in a
creepy way people, just in a in a mature way,
I guess, if we can say it anyway, beck at
you twenty one past. Just as far as the weather

(50:09):
goes today, I've spent a little bit of time, not
a long time. Do they trying to find out what
the highest temperatures and situations were. It's freazy to find
the weather. What's coming up? What's the best website to
go to to find the highest temperature of the different regions?
Just TEXTBSTO. Probably a talking question, but I'm curious to
know because I've got no way. I cannot find that
information anywhere. I'm sure there's a simple place for it,

(50:30):
I just can't find it. Twenty three past nine, Hell
and it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 17 (50:35):
Yeah, Hi Marcus. I'm this rather weird experience I had
coming out the Sunday a cemetery after a funerule. I
was coming out in the old section, and just as
I was about to leave, I just happened to glance

(50:57):
lift and there was the shaft of sunlight which went
straight down onto this grave. And I couldn't believe my eyes.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Your name was.

Speaker 17 (51:08):
Yeah, that's right, and no, no, no, no, no, no no.
The name was unmistakably connected to me. It's a Scottish clan,
you know, and it was unmistakable. And I knew that
a branch of that. You don't have to clode the whole,
you know, you know, this dispersal and everyone went everywhere,

(51:32):
and I knew that a branch of the family had
come to some of them had come to New Zealand.
But I had absolutely no idea that I had this
district Malays buried in the old section of the fung
A Cemetery. It was really, really bizarre, Just a single
shaft of sunlight in the late afternoon going and there's
this name. Was really amazing.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
You mean to see it, weren't you?

Speaker 17 (51:55):
Well, it looks like I tried. I always try to
find a rational explanation for things, but sometimes you just can't.
And I have never actually followed that, followed that up.
You know, Oh you must must, I must have. I
must have some relations in in in Fay. In fact,
I think actually I might be related to Jack's rather distantly.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Okay, nice to hear from your Helen even it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 19 (52:20):
Oh, yes, good evening. Now are you this evening?

Speaker 12 (52:23):
Good?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Thank you? Even? How are you this evening?

Speaker 19 (52:25):
No, I'm not too bad, but I've been a bit
hot today. So the first boat I worked on, Tankston,
was built just down from er Muddy Cemetery. First one
out of school. Anyway, there was a boat burning just
east of Brown's Island this morning.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Of eight days I saw that. What was going on there?

Speaker 7 (52:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (52:48):
The lady said it was on Facebook, but I don't
do Facebook.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Did you did so you go?

Speaker 19 (52:56):
Did you say it on Facebook?

Speaker 8 (52:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I saw something. I saw something on the news on
a website here a h did you?

Speaker 19 (53:05):
Yeah, well, I was just talking of chatting to the
lady and we noticed it out there. So they're just
off the music point east it browns on.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Did they tell it or did it sink?

Speaker 19 (53:16):
I'm not too sure what happened. Okay, left the scene.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I'll look into it, Evan, Thank you for that. Hettled twelve.
My names Marcus, welcome, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.
We're discussing cemeteries and sexton's and anything else. That's what
you're about tonight. People keep those texts coming through. Oh, Marcus,

(53:45):
I was the boss at the cemetery here in New Plymouth,
de over two thousand people under me. Very good, Marc's
did you read about hills haton? We'll enter in the
donut shop at Ork and are struggling to stay open
for business, which one has a given little page just
to a stay afloat, so no one wants to wear
hat to read donuts anymore. Yeah, well, I think it
hats have changed. People like the baseball caps, don't they.

(54:06):
No one wants a Tartan tamishenter. A few symmetry jokes
coming in. Cemeteries are amazing places, so incredibly just dying
to get in there, Marcus. I remember a young ones
skip when there was asked, so do you dig Graves,
who replied, yeah, yeah, they were all right. Marcus. I
think christ Church coast to the airport is appropriate to
remember those lost on matt Erebus. Thank you. Strawberry's cheeries

(54:31):
apricots all available in New World, Bishop Dale, christ Church.
This evening great to hear why Kadaka Park has had
an upgrade. However Western Springs will become a white elephant,
so any future Lord Mayor of Auckland can build more
multi floor apartment on it. Is that what happened to
the golf course over the motorway from Western Springs that
was chopped in half. So there we go. That's a

(54:53):
bit of what's happening tonight, Marcus.

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Cure.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Marcus, always on the lookout for sexton with an appropriate surname,
such as Graves is free good. I think it's a sixton,
not a sextant. A sexton is a navigational aid that
uses the sun and a watch and of chronometer maybe
as well for full accuracy. I think that's the way

(55:18):
it works. Loving all of this, keep it going here
till twelve. Text and emails all good as we have
a gentle meander through the night. It'll be in touch
if you want to talk on air. That's the Keita note.
I've got an update on the fire. The fire and
a pine plantation in Palmerston has burnt through twenty five

(55:41):
hectares before it was contained. Crews called at two thirty five.
More crews will turn tomorrow to continue mopping up. No
structures at risk. It's staggering photos because it's just out
the back of Pukatapu, which is the hill with the
monument on the top. The you can club very worthwhile

(56:02):
if you get a chance to go driven past it
thousands of times probably and then finally to climb up it.
And what a great thing that was. I had no
idea you could climb to the top of the monument.
Tremendous Marcus. Speaking of gravesites, have you heard of safety coffins?
The deceased were buried with a cord attached to a
flag or bell that if they weren't really dead, they

(56:22):
could pull the cord and alert people up above they
needed digging up. Yes, it was always a thing, wasn't it. Yeah, anyway,
do come through if you want to be a part
of it. He until twelve o'clock tonight. There's anything else
that's happening around them. Well, by the way, how was
your Thanksgiving? And how was the heat? And are there

(56:42):
any locally manufactured turkeys? Manufactured? Bread made? Raised is the
word I'm struggling for locally raised turkeys? And why wouldn't
there be? I don't think it's very good milk to eat?
Is it? Low and slow? Might be right in the hangy,
but that can be tough. It can be tough and dry.

(57:03):
You better off with a goose. Could someone please do
the research for me and tell me if it's been
a big year for sharchitects. I don't think I've ever
been aware of more people dying by shark, so working
if they are increasing. If you want to see another
one got chomped, say chump. That sounds it's respectful. Another
one died today in Sydney, Australia, Northern Coast. Hello Tom,
this is Marcus good.

Speaker 8 (57:24):
Evening and good ending, Marcus. I'll just scot a little
question for you. I used to be a funeral director
in Wesdalkland. Can you tell me animal that has had
its own funeral director?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Is the horse?

Speaker 8 (57:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Is it one particular animal.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
It's one particular animal in.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
New Zealand.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
In New Zealand, that's right, is it?

Speaker 18 (58:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (58:01):
Really?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
What happened? Tell me more?

Speaker 8 (58:04):
Oh? I used to be a funeral director for a
cup called Pitcher Brown and new Lynd And when I
cleaned out the old lady's home, it was all these
newspaper clippings and I was quite amazed to see that
old Picture Brown was the funeral director for I fur
the dolphin?

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Was it in a coffin?

Speaker 8 (58:22):
I actually don't know, mate. Maybe someone could tell me
what actually happened to Ophie. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I think I think Opo was Uh, it's got stuck
between rocks. I think Belorius Jack was the other famous
dolphin that got murdered. But Opoh, I think just just died.

Speaker 8 (58:41):
Yes, But it was the main years at the time.
I remember seeing the newspapers chipped them all and Picture
Brown was the funeral director for Open the dolphins, so
I tried. I thought I'd passed it on my bat.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
That's extremely good information, Tom, I've never heard of that before.
I thought, that's really interesting goodness. They kind of Yeah,
the local has slip. They got to always take photos
with beer bottles of juggling beach balls. It led to
the formation of the Openone Gay Dolphin Protection Committee. Now

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that the word gay had a different met we had
the same meaning, but it didn't have the co opted meaning.
She's found dead the next day, gem in the crevice
between rock. Some sedgesce that she'd been stranded while fishing.
Others thought she had been killed by fishermen using jetic note,
but no word of the actual funeral. Hang On, I

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might have some more information. I'm pretty interested in this.
I've had an article free, hard for me to read
because it's Dan. What's that button I pushed to make
things larger? Alt Control scored up? Honestly, the things Dan knows,
you wouldn't believe it. Sometimes here we go and that

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guy's completely right, because I'm seeing the name Fletcher Brown.
I hereby commit God, I hear if I commit Opoh's
body to its last resting place, Earth to Earth ashes
to ashes, dust to dust. May God rest here in peace.
With these words, mister Fletcher Brown and orcan undertaker Holiday
and Upennoni provide a professional touch at the funeral of
the famous dolphin. Yes the afternoon, the body had just

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been lowered reverently into the six foot grave by mister
Brown and mister William Yeckers, mister Walker Low and mister
Albert Baker. Mister Brown call and representatives of Maldi Pakihar
and children from various districts to cast a shovelful of
sand on the body at the bottom of the grave.
It's remarkable. Now where was the grave? I don't know, Yes,

(01:00:52):
someone will know. Locally. Tears flowed freely, so it was
a big deal. And telegrams from all around the world.
I don't think no where what I think probably the locals.

(01:01:13):
I think might have been just period at the edge
of the beach. Anyway, enough for me twenty five to ten,
good evening, Hugh Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:01:20):
Oh I'm Marcus. I'm going to stop the character and
that makes a noise. A couple of situays into pookie tapoo.

Speaker 8 (01:01:28):
And also turkeys.

Speaker 21 (01:01:30):
Yes, way back in the day, used to live with
a woman who saw me looked at Pooky Tapo and
he got isolated when the recent flints came through and
the bridges got worked out at Russington and I used
to go out hunting with her brother and were shoot turkeys,
big turkeys. And it's the funny thing. We don't have

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a lot of turkeys down here on the Capery coast.
But yesterday or the day before, my mate, who's also
a hunter, a professional peace control shooter, shot eleven turkeys
and he kicked me and called me and said, you
better come and get these turkeys if you want the
wait around there nice and rout fillers and molls and whatnot.

(01:02:14):
And when that was about fifteen kilograms of turkey meat,
we lost this. This is about two days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
So it's not Thanksgiving but just before.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Okay, yes, yeah, no, I'm thinking we were at Christmas now,
and so I'm just I've got a little body yat
what not breasts and legs, you know, not the whole caucus.

Speaker 21 (01:02:35):
When you shoot them, you don't get the whole cargoss unlea,
you're very clever. And so I've got fifteen cages of turkey.
Looking forward to hearing the best turkey with me, and
I hope it's not like what you said. That's not
particularly nice to eat. But I will see how we
go wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
It could be good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
You would have eaten it before, would you not?

Speaker 21 (01:02:53):
Oh yeah, heaps of times, heaps of times.

Speaker 20 (01:02:55):
I don't mind it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:56):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
It's not my go to meat, but it's okay, you know.

Speaker 21 (01:03:00):
And then there's a traditional thing, you know, the big
turkey on the table with it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
That if they have you got meat you don't want.
Everyone seems to put in salami these days, don't they.
That seems to be the go to.

Speaker 8 (01:03:11):
Yeah yeah, rolls.

Speaker 21 (01:03:14):
And then another beautiful thing happened today or last night.
I went out shooting rabbits as I do. And I'm
just going to say this is on my Facebook page,
which is ego, and we went out hunting. I went
out hunting last night and I shot about closet one
hundred rabbits. And I went back this morning to pick

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up the car because to get the tails and what nott,
what you got to do sometimes. And as I went
the go around to pick up the dear merits, and
that before I shore a whole bay before and I
wound up at about one hundred and eight do you
will take it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
But and.

Speaker 20 (01:03:50):
What am I going to do with one hundred and
eight rabbits?

Speaker 21 (01:03:52):
So I put them in the foot of put them
in the back of the ute, and I went down
beside a road came Myrna road, and why can't I
put up a big sign a sales bought and on
both said three rabbits here and now and to take.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
A photo of it.

Speaker 21 (01:04:07):
Put them on Facebook, and people chewed up from Boddy
anywhere man, And I did of one hundred and eighth
that a shot. I only picked them about eighty eight
because some of the other ones were pretty small and significant,
you like babies, And we gave away about eighty eight.
Rapist all these people in the community here, so it's
like I'm always saying, there's hunters and it's shoes. We

(01:04:31):
can we can feed the community.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
You're like, were they skinned?

Speaker 8 (01:04:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:04:37):
We were in the back of the unit and people
came and you say you want to for your dog,
you wanted for compost and take them hole, just promm
a hole in the ground for compost. They're great gun
boss around trees and vegetables or do you want to
feed them the dog? Some people just took them for
a dog. Some people are looking for you know, around
for coop off from the gardeners. And some people were
wanted to eat them, but didn't they how to skin them.

(01:04:58):
So I'm standing there beside there are giving total strangers
this is a how to skin a rabbit, gather it
and then cutting up into the pieces that you might
want to put in a kessel for When I finished
with a rod that it looks like something you brought
on a butcher shop man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
At a lot of people were keen on cooking it,
is that right?

Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:05:21):
And like we're all standing around. There was African guy
from Zimbabwe, Indian guy for Indian guys. I group with
three young women and four young women who were fling
together and one day how to cook it and we're
all talking about our favorite recipes. And it was just
a beautiful afternoon.

Speaker 13 (01:05:39):
Man.

Speaker 21 (01:05:40):
It was just really cool, like feeding all these total strangers.
And you know how they're talking about food brings people
together and talking about food and eating with people, bringing
people together.

Speaker 20 (01:05:53):
That was what it was like.

Speaker 21 (01:05:54):
It was just beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Was the Indian going to do a carry?

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Oh? Absolutely.

Speaker 21 (01:05:59):
So I'm talking to him about this carry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
What was the key?

Speaker 11 (01:06:03):
They say, uh, he rather enough.

Speaker 21 (01:06:06):
He said, you know, your traditional Indian carry spices and things.
He's trying to think what they put on their yep
carry leaves, carry leaves. We talked about a recipe that
I've done recently, which was soakia and coconut cream overnight

(01:06:28):
and then cooking it with lemongrass, ginger garlic, you know,
kind of like uh Vietnam style, you know, Asian style.
That was pretty beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Okay, let's know next time you've got any to give away.
Thank you for that, Hue, Thanksgiving, Live doctuments the name
I had four hour surgery on my foot after a
two year rate. I don't to know a staff hospital
Surgeon's incredible. I am very grateful that it's Chelsea Marcaus.

(01:07:05):
I observed a burial. It's see the body was wrapped
a flag specially to see. A day or two after
leaving Australia a clue member on the ship of Ryan
that part of the deck was closed to passengers. Mark's
was a funeral. Diricks in Church Street twicken them called
waken pain always made me smile at us walking past, Meg,
Meg Meg nineteen to ten. Welcome here to the end.

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Now if you've been trying to get through, now is
a good time because lines are available for you. That's right,
it's your lucky night. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
We are talking the Erebus memorial that's going to christ Church.
Of course, the plane didn't leave from christ Church plainly
from Auckland. The last place that left from was Auckland.

(01:07:48):
So yeah, but that's the decision now. I don't fully
know how that's been received by the families by respect
the families, respect for privacy or whatever they want, because
they've been through enough of that. But anyway, we'll also
talk about those talk that New Zealand needs the Commonwealth Games.

(01:08:10):
For me, that would be a grave mistake and a
waste of a lot of money. I think it's got
zero chance of happening, but you never know. Sometimes with
economic inspiration people do back stupid ideas. We're also talking
about symmetries and symmetries looking for graves and those sorts

(01:08:32):
of you've got an interesting symmetry story. Just hell, I
was going to say there was a shaft of light
on the graves. You turned around and had her name
on it and today's date. It's a well known trope
and horror movies, isn't it? And that would freak you out,
freak me out. But we are discussing tonight coming through.

(01:08:55):
If you want to, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty anything else you want to mention, we can cope
with turkeys. Where would you get a local turkey? Apart
from Hugh do what I meet? You ever sea served?
Or you don't ever go to a restaurant and see turkey?

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Do you?

Speaker 17 (01:09:09):
Well?

Speaker 18 (01:09:10):
I never have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Maybe I've gone to the wrong restaurant. I think it's
only celebrated and for Thanksgiving because turkeys were native to America?
Have I got that right? Presume that's the case. And
what else would they eaten? Deer? Perhaps? I don't know

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if turkeys are all around the world or just I
don't know where they came from originally, think they just
might have been the United States actually, which is interesting itself.
I don't think there were turkeys in Europe looking at
their fossil records. Yes, they've got the snood, haven't they not?
The animals with a snood? But yep, there we go.

(01:09:53):
That's what we're about tonight. We're going to talk about
this or anything else good. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine to nine to de text. There
are native There are turkey flocks in England, the Norfolk turkeys,
but they did come from the ones in the United
States to America. It's fourteen to ten good. I'm here
till twelve, yepe And these are all good topics. But

(01:10:14):
if you want to come through these, it's good. If
you don't, that's fine. Also these other stuff you want
to bang on about, and that's good also fine, feel
free to do that. There's been fires around the country.
When I talk about Poky Tarpoo, that was a different
one to what he was talking about. That's the one
near Palmerston in the South Island, YEP, which is famous.
I'm not quite sure what the memorial is for some

(01:10:36):
run holder. I think is it Mackenzie. I think that's
a situation just seeing if there's anything else. The Marshall
Islands is introducing a world's first crypto based universal income scheme.
Sounds scammy, doesn't it, But yes, the new super rugby
duty's have been released. I don't know about you, about

(01:10:59):
the super rugby jew I think they always look terrible.
I mean that might be something overly negative, but yeah,
you Bis is the big sponsor. No, sorry, I've got that.
That's confused. I've got that mixed up with they're comparing
them to the to the to the Max Cricket Max uniform.
So I apol raised that. I think nib is the
big sponsor. His Ubix is no longer around or Compoda

(01:11:22):
sponsors the Hurricanes. He I don't like the way that
those rugby dues had gone away from the cotton. I
supose the players might like them. I suppose it's more
about them. Twelve to ten, Marcus, till midnight. Nine from ten.
That's the time, and get in touch if you want to, Hi, Marcus.
I was twenty two when the era was disaster happened.

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I clearly remember the TV announcements. In the last announcement
when they said the plane would be out of fuel.
We were really hoping for a miracle before then, but
to no avail. The next day I was getting picked
up for work on kyber Passed Road. I was newly
back from Sydney and wearing a smart new teal dress
with pleats and a pretty pattern. I kept getting lots
of looks of people, and a man came to me,
took my hand and said how sorry he was. He

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had tears in his eyes. I realized that they thought
I went for a New Zealand. I didn't have the
heart to tell him. The country wore a heavy heart.
That day was very quiet. It's so embarrassing it's taken
forty six years to find a place for a memorial.
This is our nation's shame. There is enough shame about
the whole inquiry, and those Nimbis from Parteal can get stuffed.
Peter barn was more than christ Church, so maybe it's

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fitting that the memorial is there. I am now old,
but still remember those who lost their lives on the
twenty eighth Andy. It's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 11 (01:12:33):
Good evening, Marcus. Could you find out why in New
Zealand Auckland Nelson five o'clock flight turned back tonight? My
son was on the flight to Nelson and apparently no
reason given, but he's coming back here to my home
on the north Shore. It turned back forty passengers and

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no reason. Can you find out for us? Please?

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Certainly, Dan, what do we do for that. Yeah, Dan
will have been the radio Andy, Yes, Roger, and how
do we do that? Then I'll check on the Nelson website.
Now if anyone else knows, takes it through. It's always
frustrating when you don't know something, isn't it Nelson? You
put website flights, I'm on it. Bontit on the bonet flights,

(01:13:28):
anger flights arrivals. A lot of flights are canceled. We've
all got canceled beside them Parting two arriving. I don't
really understand the website. If anyone does know, let me know.
It's seven away from eleven ten, Janine, it's smartus, good evening.

Speaker 12 (01:13:47):
Oh, I've got living to you. Nice to hear your voice.
I just clicked the radio on because I'm hiding from
myself in the kitchen with so much more ice cream
a one liter box.

Speaker 8 (01:13:58):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (01:13:59):
And I heard that lovely gentleman say he was worried
about that fly. Well, I can tell you now here
on Wellington the wind has been crazy tonight and I
would not be surprised if they've had to turn around
because of the weather. Okay, really diabolical trees just dancing
around and my face is fairly sheltered.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
What flavor?

Speaker 12 (01:14:23):
Oh god, I've never heard of it before. And they're
on special at good old Push and Shot and it's
caught well you know, you know that much more ice cream? Yes,
I've never heard of them, and I can't are the best,
It says Marbles ice Cream, Wilderberry and Brosius, our take

(01:14:44):
on the classic key we dessert two liters for about
only four dollars or three?

Speaker 8 (01:14:52):
How much?

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
How much? How much of it have you the two leaders?
Have you eaten?

Speaker 10 (01:14:56):
Well?

Speaker 18 (01:14:56):
What I do is.

Speaker 12 (01:15:00):
It's like cutting out a new garment. I'm going around
the outside. Well I've kindly I got a little bit
of Mount Cook and I kind of I can smooth
myself down. So one of the graciers somewhere, and yeah,
it's quite fun.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Do you think you're polish your off tonight?

Speaker 12 (01:15:19):
Oh thank goodness, No, it's just a little snack one.
I'm thinking about tomorrow and what I'm going to do
and what the weather's going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Okay, I'd like to talk to you, Jannine. You've lifted me,
You've lifted us all with coming in with your peppy,
your pippiesst At seven past ten, hit til twelve. I'm
looking forward to your calls. Good evening, Ralph. This is Marcus.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Welcome, well evening there. Just now, this is one of
those occasions that many years ago, I think. I don't
know how many years ago ire this went down, but
I was floating around the suburbs of Auckland. I don't
know where I was even going, but I was well
big pylons and there was an overbridge somewhere. I remember

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quite clearly when I heard that the plane had crashed.
And on that plane was a friend of mine. Oh,
I suppose a school friend from Harwar, Shirley McDonald, whom
I knew her. Her mother, mother, and father used to
come in and shop with me in the men'swear store
where I worked, what was Patterson's in Harwar menswear store,

(01:16:28):
And anyway, I was quite fond of these people. And
at school, I was at Harboro High School Technical High
School in those days, and I think it was and
Sheley McDonald was, if I'm not mistaken, was one of
the captains of the Blue House in those days. You know,

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we all had houses and one thing and another. Anyway,
I sort of was very fond of her in the
sense that she was older than me and as I thought,
a very attractive person as well, and so I took
a liking to her, as I still have today. But anyway,

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it's a long, long, long time, and I'm so pleased
to the people of christ Church that those toffee nosed
ouseholds from Auckland were so up themselves that they didn't want, Oh,
we didn't want people visiting tribes and things like that.
I think christ Church deserves it, and for Shirley McDonald

(01:17:36):
and her appearance's sake, I just think it was just
a lovely thing for the christ Church, oh that county,
you know, to take hold of that and say, yeah,
we own that and we will honor those people, which
I am immensely proud of because I think I will

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always want a Sheurley McDonald And I can't say any
more than that, but it was a lovely thing to
day and that was a sad point in my life
when I heard that plays so.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Ralph extremely nicely, nicely put and I think I share
a lot of your sentiments too when you put like that,
So thank you for every much. It makes a lot
of sense through what you've just said. And yeah, of
course it should have been an orct, but they didn't
want it. Yeah, unbelievable. Lauriate's Marcus welcome, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:18:31):
Hiday Marcus. You know, I agree with the guy. It's
great that they have settled on that spot. It really
is very prominent in christ Church when I was growing
up school there in the fifties and sixties that it
used to be the sign of that Harker he which

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is adjacent to it. That was the terminus for the
for the tram and buses.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
It makes sense, okay.

Speaker 10 (01:19:00):
Right, they could go right from the square right down
Plumbo Street and then ended up the hill and that
would be where that's turn around and come down again.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:19:09):
But I mean there was a tea rooms there, so
that was sort of a major feature in christ Church.
Anyone that sort of come to town always went up there,
the tear rooms that sort of that neo Gothic sort
of stained glass windows. Its quite quite like a little
castle really. But CRAIGP. Wilson or that the guy I
think was s John Craig Craft Wilson was a colorful

(01:19:32):
character in his own right, and you know there was
he was sort of the father of Kashmir. But he
arrived from India in the eighteen fifties or so, with
a whole retinue of servants and stock and strange animals
set up there. So that's where that name comes from.
And he's pretty colorful and so far as the times

(01:19:53):
of putting down the Thuggies and and here in the
mutant and all that sort of stuff, but he just
touching on the actual the crash itself. Now I reread
well a book recently. It's called Arabas Ice Dragon.

Speaker 8 (01:20:09):
This is the one that.

Speaker 10 (01:20:10):
Colin Monteeth wrote, and he had a chapter in there
particularly on the crash, and it was the accounts of
the guys who were the first to come onto the
scene to try and effect the recovery. And there's the
chap Rex Henry who was sort of who was the

(01:20:32):
first New Zealander We had actually been down as an electrician,
but always a search and risky guy, and he was
an halic coupler that they went up to try and
land at the site and they were unable to it
was too windy. But he was sort of in quite
a dilemmaus so we thought if he was going to
have to try and repel out on a rope, but

(01:20:53):
he didn't have anyone else to assist. But then there
was the individual stories of both him and Hugh Logan
who was the next guy another rescue team, Colin Monteith himself,
and then Kerry Keys, you know he was also There

(01:21:14):
was quite quite quite a great account, and I don't
think it had been coveredy elsewhere. Just to see that
level of detail, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Never Laurie, I've never really thought of it in terms
of Scott based. Were the Scott based people. Were they
notified by egis ealand the plane? I presume they went
aware of it. Would they have radar from McMurdo or
how how did that unfold?

Speaker 9 (01:21:37):
You know?

Speaker 10 (01:21:38):
Well strangy as it knew they were talking to to
the plane from Predictive and also a guy at at
Venda station had called the old what's his name, he's
one of the technicians, Garry h. Anyway, he had got

(01:22:00):
them on the radio from Vendor and told them that
you know, caver and fly over the dry valley because
the weather's got over that side and you may Actually
the deputy leader at that stage and knew whether was bad.
He was talking to the captain and told him don't
go anywhere neara of us, you know, it's but anyway,

(01:22:21):
so they were aware, you know, once the transmission stopped
that things were going bad. And then when the the
Americans put the planes up, Hercules spotted a smudge on
the ice to start with.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Okay, the Americans put Hercules into this up. Okay, I
didn't know that.

Speaker 10 (01:22:39):
And then the first helicopter that when went out, American
helicopter they called by Scott based to pick up Rex Hendry,
who had put together, you know, a quick pet some
rescue items and yeah, they shot out to the site
and he didn't have the other people were with them.
We're actually you know, full mountaineering guys, or hadn't have

(01:23:05):
an experience. He didn't want to jump out by himself.
He thought, you know, he'd probably because it was quite
badly caressed. But anyway, yeah, but it was. It was
quite dramatic, and I think he had quite a bad
time at reflecting latter years. Why that he hadn't quite
hard to get down on the first time, not that

(01:23:27):
there was ever any chance or anyone being live, but
it was turned out. But what I noticed it in
the book itself, and it's it's a beautiful book that
covers a lot of other aspects to it. But he
has gone through and listed every passenger. That was, all
the crew and the passengers, and certainly I see Shirley

(01:23:50):
McDonald's from Howard is mentioned there. But then also he's
gone through and named all the those that received that
there's three hundred and thirty one people who were involved
in the book, the recovery or either involved in the
mortuary scene where there's the bodies were covered through to
to Auckland. Yeah, someone on the crash site that. Yeah,

(01:24:14):
he's named everyone in matter as well.

Speaker 11 (01:24:17):
It was.

Speaker 10 (01:24:20):
A good memorial to all those she had number when
you look through the list, they're just the volume, well
the numbers that involved and putting the bodies.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
And look from my point of view too, from doing
the sitting in this seat for the last ten years
or have you that it is such a extraordinary New
Zealand disaster that everyone is knows of someone that either
died or knows of someone that died. I mean it
did touch all that, It did touch everyone. I even

(01:24:52):
remember going we find we went to see a lawyer
about writing up a will and and an invert cargol
and he and the free famous example down here of
you know, because you don't have to think that both
parents are going to die. But he said, well, this
is in fact exactly what happened with were the two
parents that from Virgo that died in Erabas and left
the children as orphans. So yeah, right across the country,

(01:25:15):
there's stories of people that were affected by that.

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:25:18):
When you look through the list of names and you
see their place of origin, you know, a sprinkle, you know, rural.
It's well spread in Laurie.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Just because I texts about that, and there is confusion
about this. I know it means an Arab's expert. But
all those people from around the country, they did all
have to fly to walk on. The plane left Auckland
for Erebus, but came back. Was supposedly supposed to come
back through christ Church for a huture for a crew change,
but it was a It was a flight that left
Auckland for Auckland was its last its last port that

(01:25:52):
it left from.

Speaker 10 (01:25:54):
I think that's right, that is that is right, that
is right, But.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
There's much confusion about that. People think it left from
christ Judge, but it didn't.

Speaker 10 (01:26:01):
When you look at the crew, they're all listed as
being Auckland crew, Yes, basically yeah, and the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Poor christ Huch crew were waiting there to pick them
up and obviously they never arrived, so that was terrible
for them.

Speaker 10 (01:26:10):
Also yeah, yeah, but they just says it's nice that
today you have welcomed it there because that when you
go up to that reserve, and I mean it used
to be very noticeable and went up there in the wintertime,
the christ Church smog. You know, you get up to
that level and you'd see this dark cloud, you know,
it was on a fine day and then you'd see
the line the snow on the southern Alps. So it's

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a good view to the south. I mean, all that
smog has pretty much much gone now. It was awesome
in the coal fires and that sort of stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:26:41):
But yeah, name of the book.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Name of the book again, lurry.

Speaker 10 (01:26:46):
Okay, and that one it's called Erebus the Ice Dragon,
a portrait of an Antarctic volcano. And that's by Colin Monteeth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Brilliant. Thanks so much for that eighteen person you're just
thinking about christ it's my holiday plan. I need a
combination in christitch On the second is the first or
the second of January anyway, obvious Barancilo. Everyone's got the
idea about that. Get in touch, Well, I don't get
in touch. Email me Marcus to your caller referring to
Taffinose people from Auckland. I was just eighteen years old,

(01:27:15):
supposed to be on that flight with my boss at
the time, fresh out of school. I turned it down.
I live today. I never had support around that, so
I feel annoyed that someone makes a comment of that
without being personally involved. Shelley Marcu's next door farm neighbor,
wife husband were going, but husband got crooked that morning.

(01:27:36):
She never returned alive. Row Marcus, the aerbus Morole should
be on the Mount Victoria that's next to the Burden
Mora looks directly for the South polland always visited, always
quite a few visitors. I think I'll start my own one.
I think that's a Mount Victoria is in Wellington, not
the Mount Victoria from Auckland. A lot of love for

(01:27:59):
the Ambrosia chocolate so ice cream. Fully agree that Ambrosier
ice cream is delicious. I love that much more ice
cream dream evenilla flavor much nicely because this is the
tip top so lovely and creamy. Is that the one
they can't call ice cream, and then enough cream in it.
I know some you can't call ice cream. Has got
a dairy dairy dessert or something that we have a

(01:28:20):
look at that. What's it called, Morris Moore more much more,
much more, much more. I'll lock it up to see
if it's called ice cream, because sometimes I can't call
it an ice cream. I'm not got enough fat or
something fatty fetty. Yes, it's probably Oh, it is called

(01:28:41):
ice cream ice creams in the woods. It must have
the relative fat content or something. Wild berry ambrosia six
nine and New World five point fifty at Bullworth's. Oh
break time twenty three past ten. Hello, Shane, it's Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:28:59):
Welcome than you know, Marcus. They are shirts thru the.

Speaker 7 (01:29:07):
Uh ah TV.

Speaker 19 (01:29:14):
I think what's called YouTube and there's about the euro US.

Speaker 8 (01:29:21):
But I didn't watch it.

Speaker 19 (01:29:23):
Get and get to work tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:29:27):
I just want to let you know that it was
a thing on there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
On YouTube. Yeah, copy that shape pressure that thank you
might seek that out there we go. There are a
lot of TV show but it was a movie made.
I think it was a movie made about it. But
anyway you think you of course it's tomorrow that the
anniversary would you say, anniversary of the anniversary of Erebus?
But I don't think you feel like feeling Friday's world

(01:29:52):
hearted kind of a night, isn't it? Oh do to do? Yes,
I believe that that the memorial should be in Auckland,
but I think they made that. Guy made a nice
point about that that for families that had been through

(01:30:16):
so much that the residents of that upmarket suburb put
them through through their ad dignity by say they couldn't
have a memorial where they wanted it. I thought it
was unbelievable for no real reasons. I could see they
kind of gerrymanded it or reverse engineered, so they looked
like there were reasons, but you know, seemed incredibly mean

(01:30:38):
spirited to me. But there we go. There is some
talk about the Commonwealth Games to come to news end
in nineteen thirty four or thirty six. I'm vehemently opposed
to that. Sorry, nineteen thirty six, twenty thirty six, with
that last century ago, yeah, I'd be strongly opposed to that.

(01:30:59):
The Commonwealth Games were at the peak in seventy four
and it's been a slow or not so slow unwinding since.
I don't think anyone could remember a great highlight from
the last games, or in fact whether there was one
or where they were. So yeah, not a big fan
of that at all. But there will be christ J

(01:31:19):
boosters trying to get reelected by trying to drum up
the nostalgia of seventy four again. But yeah, it's gone,
we did it. Well, let's do something different. Marcus wanted
to call them too angry hearing Andrew Little's welcome to
the Meriyalty cost ratepayers thirty four thousand. I haven't seen

(01:31:39):
that story. I will look that up, so thank you.
I can't find it. I know there won with thirty
four thousand votes, but I can't see the story about that.

(01:32:04):
But maybe I missed something. I can tell me any
more about that?

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
Let me know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Someone see it was a text through now, Marcus. Don't
know if you realize that. But there's a song that
was a few years after Erabus by a bloke called
Peter Scott called the Flight of T nine oh one.
Well it's a high bar for songs about disasters after

(01:32:32):
the Edmond Fitzgerald But yeah, I don't know about that,
but yeah, one of usten that off here anyway, twenty
seven past ten. Dave Marcus welcome.

Speaker 18 (01:32:45):
Yeah, Marcus, I hear what you're saying about the Commonwealth Games.
But I say it's got to be run like a business,
you know, to make money. Yeah, well, you know, not
hand money, handover fist. I was reading today where the
big facility in Morehouse it opens after the Para Games
on the seventeenth of decen So yeah, I mean, and

(01:33:13):
I'm just going to mention I cannot believe what I
saw on the side of these buildings in Hong Kong.
Scaffolding made of bamboo in a great height and they.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Went up thirty four levels with it.

Speaker 8 (01:33:24):
Yeah, that's not me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
No, no, I don't know how they I don't know
what they twine them with.

Speaker 18 (01:33:31):
That's no idea made. But it looked pretty Mickey Mouse
to me. And then windows they say, we're blocked off
with bits of polystyrene.

Speaker 19 (01:33:45):
Well, uh, I.

Speaker 18 (01:33:54):
Mean, I just like I've got that piece and yeah,
I had two extractions and a filling done mate that there,
so I'm just getting over. I've got a body one
of my extraction zones, both of the bottom with my jaw,
and the filling is all done. So place is over.

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And done with mate, I prescribed amoxicill and then.

Speaker 19 (01:34:18):
I'd be proven and on the up and mate, hopefully,
I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
And the extraction was not the molar that broke. There
was a filling for that one, was there or that No.

Speaker 18 (01:34:29):
That came out, and so the one beside it, and
there was another one I had to be filled. So
that's where the price costs come in. And it was
a difficult long I'd like to say difficult because apparently
one of some of the route some of the routes
were bonded or or yeah they were for whether you

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say it was, it was a difficult process. I didn't
get out of there toll just after four o'clock and
I went from the quarter past one.

Speaker 10 (01:34:59):
It was.

Speaker 19 (01:35:01):
Yes, that's what I said.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
It was quite.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Good for another ten years to another ten years.

Speaker 8 (01:35:08):
Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Nice to hear from you. Thank you for that update.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Harleyott's Marcus, good evening,
you're there. Yeah, hi, hi, hi, Hally.

Speaker 20 (01:35:20):
My wife worked for International Tolls at the time of
the Arabas disaster and she was meant to be on
that flight. Her name at the time was Lewana Carryopa Anyway,
what happened was they had a drawer for the ticket.
She wonted, but a friend wanted to go, so oh hell,

(01:35:45):
my wife gave it to her and her name was
I think Ringie Cameron and she went on the fight
there and Lewana didn't go on it. Goodness, so just
showed what things can happen. And it's and she worked
for International Tolls at the time here And how.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Did how did that affect her? She felt should have
felt terrible?

Speaker 20 (01:36:09):
Well, it was pretty hard.

Speaker 8 (01:36:11):
I mean.

Speaker 20 (01:36:13):
We were sort of dating at the time, and I
think we were sort of celebrating or something, and then
the news came through and it could affect her quite
a bit. Yeah, for quite a while. But she managed
to get over it. But she left a job.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
And did she not, Harley, did she not want to
go because it wasn't It just wasn't something she would
had she won the tripleside, I don't think.

Speaker 20 (01:36:40):
I don't think she likes flying. They but she just
went to draw for the ticket with a good reason
and and her friend wanted wanted to give and so
she gave her the ticket and it just showed her fortune. Say,
but it did affect her for quite a while.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
It was a very generous thing to do. And of
course too the you know, I guess you got to
realize the death was instant, but still and there seem
to be there seem to be so many cases like
that because a lot of them was one of those
things that there'd be raffels or prizes or gifts or something.
It was all a lot. There were a lot of
circumstance or occasions like that.

Speaker 20 (01:37:18):
You hear about this thing is Marcus, but you never
think it would be so close to home sort of thing. No, yeah,
things did happen, but anyway, it's side to know that
they'll have a memorial after.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
I agree, Harley, thank you for that call. Thanks very
much for that. Wow, what a story twenty seven to eleven.
So many stories like that, people that decided to give
it to someone else, and how would you feel that
tragic story? And I remember that on the side. I
remember this was on this show a number of years
ago about the story from that. There was a there

(01:37:51):
was a teacher from a school in christ Church, a
primary school, and a teacher that was loved and she'd
do anything for the kids. And I think she was
teaching Antarctic or something like that. She wanted to get
some shots or photos for their module. They were talking,

(01:38:12):
but a woman rang me up five or six years
ago and discussed this, and she rang up, but she
just talked about how much she loved that teacher. And
she always said to me, I never forget that. She said,
things for me were pretty awful at home. And you know,
I mean, gosh, you can come up with all sorts
of thoughts about that, what means that, what that means,

(01:38:35):
and you know, and this teacher was her one person
in the world. And then was the whole thing about
telling the children the next war and just just not
any tragic for the woman or the woman that would
have of course, it would have died an instant, but
for that whole community and all those children people know
about it, it's quite a fun I think there's memorial
gardens and things in that school for that. So maybe
for that story too, it's fitting that the memorials in

(01:38:59):
christ Church. But then again, I guess you've got to
think about what is the role of a memorial And
I don't know necessarily the answer of that. I don't
know if that's the memorials for the victims or for
all New Zealanders. I don't really know a place of reflection.

(01:39:22):
But twenty five to eleven is the time eight hundred
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two to text.
Do you want to talk about this?

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
All that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
And that's what we're on about tonight, our poor old
dave A. It's a long time to be in your mouth,
isn't it? It was three hours by the sound of things.
I'll tell you what I'm interested in all these awards
for New Zealand's best TikToker, and I've got to say

(01:40:05):
that I have zero involvement with TikTok and I don't
necessarily think I'm missing anything. It seems to me to
be a I don't know what to say. Doesn't feel
like a proper career to me, being a TikToker. But yeah,
you never know anyway. So we've got these songs and

(01:40:34):
dances the whole way through, don't you. But there we go.
I did watch some of the winning tiktoker's videos. I
think there's a and I watched it. I still thought, wow, jeepers,
I'm still not quite sure what that's about. Twenty four
away from eleven with it till the end oh twenty

(01:40:55):
to ten, eleven, twenty to eleven. Myn name is Marcus. Welcome.
If you want to text, do that. If you want
to email, do that, If you want to call, do that.
Here till twelve o'clock tonight, been number of fires around
the southern part of the country. They seem to be out,
but yeah, country is dry and windy, so I wouldn't
be surprised if we're in for a fiery kind of

(01:41:17):
a summer. I hope not, But just putting that out there,
and the talkback lines are open if you want to
partake in the discussion. And if there's something different you
want to mention that hasn't been mentioned that that's good. Also,
you're more than welcome to come through on whatever you want.

Speaker 11 (01:41:37):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
We live very near the Craycroft Reserve site and the
planes currently going to Antarctica and back pretty much passed
directly over the reserve every time, so we think it's
a totally privarate site to watch from. And remember as
the planes leave the croats at airport and head south
to disappear into the distance. Thank you for that, Marcus

(01:42:01):
Nelson Airport, where they can get very foggy. Our MP
Rachel Boyock post that she could get of Nelson around
lunchtime today, so it might be fog. Could well be fog,
so thank you for that. Also tonight. Oh get in

(01:42:24):
touch Marcus, still twelve. Anything else you've got to talk about?

Speaker 8 (01:42:27):
God?

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Oh oh, he's a text of removing text in relation
to what Harley said, Hi, Marcus. I worked with Langy
Cameron in the Auckland International Telephone Exchange. She was a
lovely quiet woman and so much looking forward to that trip.

(01:42:52):
When word arrived that the plane had gone down or
the Muori operators just started wailing, it was for every sad.
My shift was supposed to finish at midnight, but because
the volume of call staff for us to stay on
to hiss. It was heart wrenching hearing people just screaming
when receiving the news. It's all Clinton International Telephone Exchange.
And I don't know who that would have whose job

(01:43:13):
that would have been. I don't know enough about emergency
procedure or what the world was like in nineteen seventy nine.
If that would have been people from the airline or
people from the police, or people from another department that
have been doing the phoning around. But yeah, I don't
know how that would have worked. But you often think

(01:43:34):
about people as told and sitor the telephone exchange in
situations like that. But yes, if you just missed it,
she was given the ticket from someone else that didn't
want to go. Becaust scared of flying je eighteen tweleven. Hello, Jenny,
this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:43:51):
Hello Marcus. I'd just like to say that my brother,
Stephen Hughes was on that flight with his two brothers
in law, Paul and Dark Dykexel Paul and Dark Dikes. Yes,
their bodies were retrieved back, but my brother is still
down there in a crevice in Mount Erebus and it's

(01:44:12):
always quite sad every year when this comes up. At
the time of the crash, I was in a board
of directors meeting and all of a sudden, all around
the back of my neck and my shoulders went cold,
and all the rest of the directors looked at me
and said, Jenny, what's wrong, And I just said, something's happened.

(01:44:33):
And it was just at that time, and when I
got home from work, my housekeeper told me what had happened,
and then I realized, oh, my goodness. You know, this
is not good. And I read my mother, who lived
in Parwanui at the time, and she said, oh, that's
all right, He'll be all right. He'll be just walking

(01:44:55):
around on the snow. She couldn't comprehend, you know, what
had happened, but you know, just suddenly sad stories and
you know, I just thought, well, I say something.

Speaker 4 (01:45:07):
About so.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Who did you say? Just I missed the first part
of you tell me the first part? Who was it
the relation to you that died?

Speaker 6 (01:45:18):
Did you say my brother Stephen Hughes Will but the
and the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Other two people with a different sooner and the Dikes
who were they?

Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
Sorry, Paul and Doug dike Sel They were with my
brother with him?

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Okay, Sorry, that's what an understand. Okay, be could I
thought that brother's different? Okay? So one was your brother
and two were they were friends of his?

Speaker 6 (01:45:39):
Were they not friends?

Speaker 10 (01:45:41):
Brothers in law?

Speaker 6 (01:45:41):
Relations?

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
Brothers in law? Okay? I understand went.

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
On the flight, and you know they're all excited about
it everything, But it was quite fair because it affected
families forever, you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Know, with that on so many years of just of
Paul communication and and disrespect and yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (01:46:06):
Know it's been terrible. It's terrible for everybody, but I'm
like they say, with the memorial to go in christ Church, well,
if those planes fly over that part, it's probably more fitting.
I live in Auckland and I've been part of the
Mount Erabis. Most of the families that are still alive,

(01:46:27):
well I'm eighty now, but most of the families that
are still alive with the Mount Arabas situation, have been
informed about so many places where they were going to
put the memorial, and a lot of it was rejected
around Auckland. But thinking about it, if planes fly over
that certain position, well it probably is quite nice if

(01:46:50):
people could go up there and you know, just have
a thought about those that didn't come back.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
It must be a tough time for every years. It's
a lovely time of year as it comes into summer,
but then every year to reminder that tragedy, aren't.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
We know, and it's like forty six years. It's unbelievable.
It just says like the other day, Yeah, I know,
it's sad for everybody, but like I say, we're surviving,
and you know, we just have to think about the
others that never came back.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Did you get to go down there with the when
in New Zealand? Did take family down for No, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:47:30):
But someone went down there that took a photograph or
a lot of painting, but like a sort of like
an ink drawing of Mount Erebus. And there were so
many prints made and I've got one of them, which
is quite nice actually. And he was a man that
worked down there on the station down there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Sure, yes, I got mad. And tell me about your brother.
What stage of life was he? And when he went
down there and his brother brother what what.

Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
Want business? And he was twenty nine nine years of
age a business doing what he had a radiator repair
business for cars that had radiators.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
It was obviously a dream of his to go down
there was something they thought would be a great thing to.

Speaker 6 (01:48:22):
Do, that's right. And my husband owned the building and
the Dikes or boys worked in the front part of
the building. They had a motor mar shop. So their
family was connected to mine. And of course my brother
married Paul and Dug Paul and Doug's Sisterster Yeah, and

(01:48:43):
they were our neighbors and read out road and Pavatoi
at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Now, I've never heard I've never heard people talking about
that some people weren't recovered. What was the circuit that
they identified them but couldn't recover them. Is that the
situation with the body.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
I believe.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
So some police came around, probably about within a year,
and they said they brought so many bodies back that
were still like sitting in their seats because they were frozen.
But we laughed them up. It just went like to mush.
So that was a horrible thing. And as the police
were quite affected by it because you know, they saw

(01:49:22):
what had happened. But no, my body brothers is down
at a crevice down there, so hell there there forever.
We don't know what condition, but it's all we've been told.
But it had just been strange that the two boys
that were with them, their bodies were recovered.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
How were you? How dore you are you?

Speaker 6 (01:49:45):
Eighteen hours a year and year I'm eighty I've only
just turned eighty years of age, so I'm assult my brother. Ooh,
you know, it just it's a sad thing for everybody
to kind of reminisce on. That's when it effects. Really,
it doesn't quite feel quite the same, you know. It's

(01:50:05):
just just the day every day that you think of
what has happened, and it's brought to life all the
time with you know, people kind of remembering it and
other people.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
So did you have other brothers and sisters?

Speaker 6 (01:50:21):
Yes, yes, yes, we're fairly reading the Sires family, so
you know we all affected in different ways.

Speaker 8 (01:50:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:50:31):
So, but I I've kept most of the cuttings, and
I did come across some of the people.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
The one was.

Speaker 6 (01:50:42):
I think his name mc mah Yes. I was actually
in Remyror at the time and I kind of recognized
and I said hello to him and we started talking
him and his wife and he just said to me,
it's a terrible situation, that's all he said. And I
quite understand at the time. But you know, after that,

(01:51:04):
we've heard of all the other.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Things that so much to go, so much to go
through a little different revelations and stuff over the years.
It just wow, they certainly made it difficult for you families.
They certainly made it difficult, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
And you know what, I've always fly on Air New Zealand.
I've been such a loyal supporter of Air New Zealand
before and after and I still am. I still fly
in New Zealand. You know, I have so much thought
for it's our national airline and we still have to say, well,
it's still the safest plane that they say in the world,

(01:51:40):
the safest airline, and I feel comfortable with that and
we have to be proud of Air New Zealand and
a lot of people sort of put them down of it.
But to me, even though this accident happened, well, my
husband was also a pilot and he had his own airplane.

(01:52:02):
But these whiteouts still occur and you can't control the weather.
You know, a lot of us can control the weather,
and who was to know when that flight took off?
It was a lovely to know and it happens down there,
so part of nature, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:52:21):
Jenny.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
I've got to go for the news. But thank you
so much for calling. Yeah, I really appreciate that to
thank you so much for that, and I hope that
that's that news because you're some comfort to that there
is a place for that to be. But thank you
so much for your calling. Seven away from eleven o'clock. Hi, Amy,
good evening.

Speaker 22 (01:52:39):
Good even makes I'm not a student, would have been
very badly effects and I'm with advising school certificate examinations
that day, and I had two students, two students who
had lost their grandparents and they had to come and

(01:53:00):
sit nantic to him and good school certificate was so
important Perham. Yeah, and I had to watch them very
closely and write and and no to go in with
the papers. So yeah, and start wrenching a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
I can imagine that dilemma for the parents too, because
it'd be so worried they're going to get their need
to do the exams because they're so important, but also
the news had just come through the death of their grandparents.
It's arrowing, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:53:34):
Yes, And I mean they don't get the specific was
almost an can get job.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Absolutely nothing as big at school. See in the day,
that was as big as it got. Yeah, yeah, all right,
appreciate you coming through. Thank you Amy, just coming up
to the news. People text and emails if you've got
them and otherwise. Oh, Marcus, I was out at the

(01:54:04):
time of the crash. My mother knew the Dykesie or
family where the two brothers perish. Three of the brothers
were booked on the flight and Paul, one of the brothers,
had to pull out before because it hurt his knee.
I can still remember the front page of the Herald
b my then eight year old mine. Of course, I
think he became that was involved in publishing too. I'm
quite a well known business person. Someone said, are there
any memorials anywhere for the numerous climbers that have died

(01:54:26):
in our mountains? Mount Cook Araki must have the largest toll.
I would imagine the memorial for people that have died
on Araki Mount Cook is Raki Mount Cook. That would
be my Yeah, that would be the thing. I mean,
the thing about memorials, if it's if it's some if
it's a place that's died in New Zealand, the place
to your memorial is normally there isn't it. That's what
I would imagine. Unfortunately, most of our people have died

(01:54:49):
at sea or on planes. So you've got the way
Heni memorial, and you've got the Erabus memorial, and you've
probably got the earth I don't know if there's a
memorial for the earthquake and nape. Maybe there is, but yeah,
and I think probably the situation with Tonguewai is that well,
it was kind of a fast moving lahar that once
I don't know where you had put. There is something

(01:55:10):
at the bridge that got washed away. Mugs. My father
in law was base leader at Scott Base for a
year and many years later brought tickets for the Erebis
flight as a surprise for his wedding anniversary. Two weeks
before the flight, he was unsure about the surprise gift

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and asks asked his wife if she'd be interested in
the flight. She said it was more his interest than hers,
and they canceled. My husband was eleven at the time
and his sister fifteen. They would have been orphaned. He
still has an intense interesting think antarctic and is ninety eight.
He and his wife will celebrate their seventieth wedding anniversary

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next year. Well that's powerful. Gosh, seventy years. That's an
amazing record, isn't it. Thank you for that text? Someone says,
I prefer the momoral to be flat is it's not
everyone that's got trance sport. That's another text too, But
do get in touch of you on to talk. My

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name is Marcus. Welcome oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty and nine nine text. We're also talking about the
Commonwealth Games, which I feel very strongly against just because
I don't know why I feel so strongly against it.

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I just feel because the last time I mentioned alsots
of people came through that we were great for our country,
be great for tourism. But I've never been anyone that
wants to go to the Commonwealth Games. The sport's changed.
When we had the Commonwealth Games on in seventy four
in New Zealand, We're desperate for sport. We'll watch anything

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and to watch Brian May wasn't in the weightlifting all that.

Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
You know that was.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
But these days we've got good sport, and we can
watch Formula One, and we can watch NBA, and we
can watch NFL. We've got all our TVs. So I
think most people with world sport would want to go
to those sorts of things, not to the Calm Games.
Sports evolved. They'd want to go to the Formula One.

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They wouldn't want to go and see I'm gonna be
careful I say it's going to sound disparaging. They wouldn't
want to see people from the Commonwealth countries of Africa.
And are there many common Wealth Games in South countries
in South America? Is there one? Anyway? I don't think
they want to watch those people sort of playing outdoor bowls.

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I think bowls is always there. That's just me though.
It's sixteen past eleven. Good evening, Morgan. This is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:57:58):
Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 11 (01:57:59):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Thank you Morgan.

Speaker 13 (01:58:01):
Hey, I just was interested in you mentioning the Commonwealth Games.
I teach at a school in christ Church and that
was the topic that I gave my junior class to
write on for the interview assessment whether the Commerce game
should stay or go? So I just thought i'd give
you an insight into what fifteen year old boys think about.

(01:58:23):
Twenty seven out of the twenty eight were absolutely adamant
it has to go, and for good reason.

Speaker 11 (01:58:29):
The cost.

Speaker 13 (01:58:31):
Is just enormous. Some of them got into is it
really right to be celebrating a legacy of colonization in
its day and age? Yep, And and a lot of
them got into the fact that it's just substandard competition
really was not the big players there?

Speaker 11 (01:58:49):
Why go? Even Usain Bolt.

Speaker 13 (01:58:51):
Described it as a bit shit, They tell me, so
here you go. They were absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
The poor person that was in favor of it.

Speaker 13 (01:59:03):
Look, he did a good job, he sold it well,
but no, overwhelmingly I don't think it has an intact.
They say the builders moved on.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Yeah, okay, that's reeforceful. Morgan, thank you for that. The
kids no listen to the kids, Grant, good evening.

Speaker 11 (01:59:19):
Yeah, mar guess well, first off, I have to say
that we can only hope that the facilities and construction
side of the twenty thirty Commonwealth Games in India is
much better organized than the twenty ten.

Speaker 19 (01:59:35):
The bars, all right, that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
Was terrible, wasn't it. The finishing toilets as it air,
It was terrible anyway, I want I sometimes wondered if
that was just bad sort of racist reporting, but in
the end it was I think what happened with that.
In the end it was okay because I watched a
bit of that. But what happened I think was there
was there was heightened terrorism alert, so there was marathons

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and things, and there was no one watching any of
the events.

Speaker 8 (02:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:00:06):
Well, I mean the organization part of the facilities part
of it as well. I mean, you know, the things
weren't ready on time, and the athletes villages and the
probleming wasn't working. But anyway, you know, hopefully you know
they have said that they have learned from that and
they'll put it on a much better show, which is good.

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And yeah, well we hold it in twenty thirty four.
It's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
Are you in favor of it?

Speaker 11 (02:00:40):
If they seem to have this idea of spreading events
over a number of venues and cities, not just having
it in one city, and I think with advertising, stadium advertising,
all sorts of things. Basically, if we don't make a profit,

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that's okay. I wouldn't like to say you have to
make a big loss. And as if we can break
even this okay, you.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
Know to every fair grant, thank you for that. Twenty
eleven here till twelve.

Speaker 11 (02:01:15):
You know the drill.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Give us a call if you want Janets Marcus, good evening,
Oh hid Marcus?

Speaker 16 (02:01:23):
Are the Commonwealth Games? That's nine years away? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Yes, yes, correct, it's an awful.

Speaker 16 (02:01:34):
Long time and I don't think we'll all be here,
so no, you need to worry.

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
Okay, So do you think do you think the whole
planet's going to get wiped out before then?

Speaker 16 (02:01:47):
Yeah, we're going into the inside age. That's what the scientists.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
Okay. I didn't feel like that today, felt quite warm.

Speaker 16 (02:01:55):
Yeah, but it's going to the big hole in the
sun is going to turn right round and we're going
into darkness, and you know what's going to happen there.
Everything on the life.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
Sober, always Jerry and always Jerry.

Speaker 16 (02:02:12):
Well, and you can laugh about it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
I'm not laughing, no, I'm not laughing no.

Speaker 9 (02:02:17):
But you can.

Speaker 16 (02:02:19):
So you can laugh about anything.

Speaker 17 (02:02:22):
Now.

Speaker 16 (02:02:23):
I went to spring Vale Garden Center a few days ago.

Speaker 13 (02:02:27):
Have you ever been there?

Speaker 2 (02:02:31):
I don't think I have.

Speaker 16 (02:02:33):
Oh well, I totally recommend it. And I won a
hundred dollars voucher. So and they've got a year plant sale.
It's like going into heaven itself. You go in there
and it's all covering over. Yeah, it's beautiful flowers.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
How do you win your voucher?

Speaker 16 (02:02:57):
Oh, they just have a drawer. I think every day.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (02:03:01):
I won one hundred dollars. And you also get vouchers.
If you buy things, you get extra pouches. So I
got another twenty dollars of them. So I bought a
whole lot of plants that were on the sale dramatically
reduced and honestly, you go into this covered sort of

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garden area where all the plants are, and it's just
a sea of color and scents of all kinds and
every sort of plant and roses, and it's just magnificent.
And then there's this wonderful cafe. So I went in
there and had a beautiful meal. It's called a big

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breakfast and it was so well done and so yummy.
I ate the whole lot, a huge, big plated yummy
food and a whole lot of cakes that I took
home with me. And wonderful day. I recommended to any
even if you're on your own, likely sit there and

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have your dinner. It's just a most enlightenment listing. You
just feel like you've been in human.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
Lovely to hear from you. John, Yes, you're sounding great
with us, So thank you, Kathy. It's Marcus. Good evening,
Good evening.

Speaker 23 (02:04:25):
Marcus. As a volunteer for the nineteen ninety Commonwealth Games,
one of the many eight hundred volunteer drivers.

Speaker 18 (02:04:41):
We drove them.

Speaker 23 (02:04:45):
Athletes to their various sports and they were most enthusiastic
the athidentes and there, and there was a very good
turnout of of spectators that all the different sports.

Speaker 2 (02:05:10):
Right, Yeah, a Mount Smart? What made it Mount Smart?

Speaker 23 (02:05:14):
Yes, it was and the University in Saint John's area.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
Oh, that's right, Fami.

Speaker 23 (02:05:27):
And also I had the pleasure of volunteering, volunteering for
three or four months before started arranging the baton relay
right around New Zealand. And there are two batons that

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were two batons going around and there had to be
a runner for every killer meter.

Speaker 18 (02:05:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, we ran.

Speaker 23 (02:06:00):
We rang the schools and and people were so enthusiastic
about being able to take part in it. There were
parents with children in prams and they were. In fact,
the whole country was very, very supportive of the baton relays,

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and I think it was very good.

Speaker 4 (02:06:29):
It was a.

Speaker 23 (02:06:29):
Wonderful time actually, as amongst all the as far as
I was concerned, amongst all the volunteers, and of course
there were over there were several thousand volunteers because they
were from house keeping to.

Speaker 11 (02:06:50):
Driving and.

Speaker 23 (02:06:53):
Repairing sports equipment and all sorts of things. That's amazing
what goes.

Speaker 2 (02:06:59):
On behind it hard to be a lot of organization,
wouldn't there. There'd be a huge amount to get everything
worked out.

Speaker 23 (02:07:04):
The army. The Army organized them, the drivers and we
had a huge tent that we all met and we
had three three breaks the days of drivers, three change

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shifts of drivers a day, and it was a really
interesting and exciting time. And the athletes, many of whom
we met, they were thrilled to have the Commonwealth Games
as a run up to the Olympics. And I'm a

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great supporter of them.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
Love you to hear from your Kathy. Thank you so
very much for that twenty six part eleven your comments too,
and good on Kathy. What's for the batony?

Speaker 11 (02:08:02):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
I've never when the thing is, when you have the
when you have the Super Bowl, you don't need a bet.
And really, I don't even know what that's about. Someone
says those Chugger ads are back on TV again, adds
what in the nations for famine and war stricken countries
at thirty dollars per month? I recall the same ads
for the same countries back in the nineties, back in

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the day they're asking a dollar a day. What happened? Well,
I guess there's still starvation in Africa. I don't know
why I go from a dollar to thirteen dollars, but
can't answer that sort of word. I know, Chugger, Calm

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Games and Erebus tonight, that's the discussion. If you want
to talk about that or anything else, these other topics
you want to mention before the end of the show,
that would be great to hear from you and be
in touch a couple of weeks till Christmas too. How
are you feeling about that? We yet to see what's

(02:09:09):
gonna be on TV for Christmas Day. I imagine it
will be Shure Shake, Redemption and full weddings in a
funeral or love. Actually, I think it's safe to say
that TV and Z don't care what they put on
TV because there's no commercials, so I don't care if
people watch it or not. It'll be my take of that.

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And they'll be now along bulletin with no ads, which
is extraordinary. Long Oh they have adds this yek I
thought was ads. Was just sudden they get add on Christmas,
but that's worse. No, I just thought it was hanging
on to check that or advertisements Christmas Day New Zealand.

(02:09:54):
I suppose it'd be over the radio too. TV Oh, yes,
for the first time and using on TV advisors to
we broadcast on Christmas Day. It allows stations to show

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ads on Christmas Day, Good Friday and Easter Sunday previously
not permitted. There's nothing sacred. There's nothing sacred Christmas Day,
so ordinary size bulletin. Oh, by the way, Chugger is

(02:10:36):
a portmanteau of charity and Mugger, Home Alone and Glove
actually are Christmas movies. And this gossip in the USA
that Robert who had only won the sympathy vote and
because the sister did ten years ago. I thought it
was a pretty good dancer. I only won because you
can dance free. Well that's what I suspected. But I

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don't know if it's not. I don't even know if
if people watch on TV there anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
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