July 3, 2025 • 40 mins
It's the eve of Independence Day and Jesse will be celebrating big. A brief explanation of the American Revolution being an exception to the rule. Mike Row joins and shed light on the shortage of trade jobs in the country.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Thursday. Oh
my goodness, I am so unbelievably excited. And do you
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know why I'm excited?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Freedom is not free.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Because Independence Day is tomorrow, and I am just like, Look,
you're gonna have to get used to this. I'm gonna
be obnoxious all night long. I can't help it. I
love Independence Day. I love my country. It's asked doctor
Jesse Thursday. Life is freaking good. The questions are amazing.
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Everything from food to July fourth, to the big beautiful
build Congress to everything else under the sun will be
discussed over the next three hours. And before I forget
a half hour from now, the great Mike Rowe. You
know Mike row Mike ro Of course, everybody knows who
Mike Rowe is. Mike Rowe, the guy who's been teaching
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us about the greatness of the trades and all that
stuff for so long. He knows I'm hot on that too,
and he will be joining the show a half hour
from now to talk about you and me and jobs
and the economy and yes, Chris, we will discuss what's
on the grill for Independence Day. I love it. Okay,
(01:43):
I've got to give your heads up about something. I
don't want to talk about. The bill. I don't Uh.
Maybe you're just now joining us. Maybe you're just now
getting in a car. I've been paying attention to the news.
This was Mike Johnson earlier today.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
This vote, the ya's are to eighteen, the nayser two
fourteen is adopted.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You got it. The bill passed. Maybe you love it,
maybe you hate it. There you go, there's your breaking
news of the day. I don't care to talk about
it anymore. Sorry, I'm not interested whatsoever. It's gigantic, way
too big, spends way too much. There are some wonderful
things in it, some absolutely disgusting, criminal, embarrassing things in it.
That's how life goes. Congress is evil, corrupt, and horrible.
I'm not going to be dragged down on this day.
(02:28):
The bill passed, Trump signed it, YadA, YadA, YadA. There
you go, there's your breaking news. Jesse. Do you think
there's any chance of an attack on America on the fourth,
or more importantly, next year, on the two hundred and
fiftieth birthday celebration? Okay, there's a reason I wanted to
open up with this question. Maybe maybe there is Maybe
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maybe Iran's gonna go set off a bomb somewhere. Maybe
another one of these TRAINNY terrorists is going to go
murder a bunch of people. Maybe maybe, maybe maybe maybe
I don't know, I don't know. There could be an
attack going on right now. I don't know. But let
me tell you something. There's nothing, nothing in this world
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that would keep me from celebrating Independence Day. Do you
know what I'm doing on Independence Day? There's this town
close to us, well, I stay close about an hour away.
They have the most ridiculous, over the top, red, white,
and Blue God and Country Independence Day parade that morning. Now,
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I hate parades. Hate parades. I think they're the most boring,
lame thing in the world. Not this one. They'll have
guns laid out on the table you can just buy.
They'll have they do American Revolution re enactments with squirt
guns where there where. The British are shooting squirt guns
at the kids, and the kids are throwing water balloons back.
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It is the most over the top thing in the world.
And I'm going I don't care what the threats are.
I don't care what the danger is. I'm going And
then tomorrow night I have a vat of fireworks that
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is probably equal or perhaps exceeding the fireworks that will
be set off in many towns across the United States
of America. No, it's not for the whole neighborhood. It's
just for me. I mean me, the kids, ob my
fam a couple other family members, a couple of friends
coming over. And there's nothing that's gonna stop me from
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setting it off. And do you know why, Because I
am so insanely grateful to be an American and you
shoot to what we have here because it's all we've
ever known. If you're an American listening to this, because
it's all we've ever known, we don't even I don't
fully appreciate how amazing it is to live in a
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country that had a revolution. We had a revolution against
the most powerful empire on the planet. You could make
the argument that the British Empire when we had our revolution,
was the most powerful revolution or most powerful empire in
human history. They had Australia, then India, America. The sun
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never sets on the British Empire. All that stuff was true.
This ridiculously powerful empire. And yet they started to do
what evil tyrannical governments do. They started to poke and
poke and poke. We're not going to let you do this,
and we're not going to let you do that, and
we're going to tax this, and we're going to abuse
you with that, and we're going to abuse you with this.
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Almost like they were daring us to revolt. Almost like
they were daring us to have a revolution. But you
know all that, Here's what you maybe don't know. Revolutions
are awful almost every single time because whenever you remove
a government, even an evil one, Mao will make it.
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Mao maybe the most evil man who ever lived. Even
if you had a revolution in China when Mao was
busy killing fifty million of his own people, even if
that happened, you know who would usually almost every time,
you know who would take over. The warlord who has
the most guns and most power and honestly is the
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most violent. That's who wins the wars most of the time.
You realize that the most violent gun happy person, weapon
happy person who's able to kill more people than other people,
he takes over for the tyrant who just got kicked
out and then he does worse things than the other
tyrant did. Actually, that's a really good point, Chris. Haiti
is a great example. Haiti. Everyone knows about the transit
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trans atlantic slave trade and all that, and I know
America and that America is the only one, but it
was South America or the Caribbean.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It was a big business. It was a global business.
You'd be hard pressed to find in that era a
more despicable slavery condition than Haiti had at the time,
because it was sugarcane and that's so labor intensive and
just the abuse. And so you're looking at Haiti at
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the time and you're thinking to yourself, Wow, they should
cast that off, they should have a revolution, they should revolt,
and they did. Whoo, yes, let's get rid of them. Yep,
Haiti's the biggest dump on the planet today. You could
easily argue that Haiti is worse today than it was
when they had slaves. They're eating each other in the place.
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Revolutions don't work out, that's not a thing that happens. Oh,
Revolutions happen, and the people are as bad or worse
off every single time. Now, let's talk about this. The
men who led our revolution. They were the top one
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percenters of their time. It wasn't just you know, a
peasant revolt where you or me were unhappy with the taxes.
I can't, I can't. No no, no, no, no. Our political leaders,
our business leaders, Patrick Henry, you know Patrick Henry. Everyone
knows at least the saying give me liberty or give
me death.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Patrick Henry was the five time governor of Virginia. Our
top and elite. They led our revolution against the British crown.
And so you have these elite guys, politicians and wealthy people.
John Hancock, you know that huge signature on the declaration everybody,
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John Hancock. John Hancock was like a billionaire. I mean
not a billionaire, but compared to his time, pretty much
was a billionaire. Our elite read led a revolution against
the British crown. Now, let me ask you something. If
Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump and Elon Musk and all
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the elite, all the Rhonda Santus will make it the
political elite too, all the political and wealthy elite, if
they all banded together and they had a revolution today,
what kind of government would they give us next? Do
you think. Do you think they would all have the
kind of government all agree to give us, the kind
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of government that stripped them of power. That doesn't happen.
They would come up with a kind of government that
gives them more power and more money, like happens in
every other revolution, but not here, not in the United
States of America. We replaced a tyrant with freedom, and
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that never happens. You, an American citizen, can turn off
the Jesse Kelly Show right now and go buy a
billboard in your town that says Donald Trump sucks. And
you know what will happen to you? Nothing, because you
are free, a free American, and you are free because
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we had the greatest revolution ever. I don't care what
may happen on the fourth of July, I will be
out there waving the red, white, and blue, celebrating the
unbelievable blessing that I am an American, and I hope
you will join me. By the way, I had a
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chance to have a discussion today with somebody. He is
a professor. He knows more about American history. He's forgotten
more about American history than I will ever know in
my entire lifetime. His name is Wilfred McLay. By the way,
Wilfred McLay. And you know what he told me. I
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was asking him about how do you teach history? Because
he's a professor. How do you teach history? How do
you teach you? How do you present it? You know
what he said to me. It just blessed me. He said,
I feel like I have an obligat obligation as a
history teacher to create good citizens.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh, hold on. You know where he teaches, Hillsdale College.
He's the chair in Classical History and Western Civilization at
Hillsdale College. Do you think maybe you think, maybe you
your children would benefit from taking a free online course
at Hillsdale College. Just maybe free Hillsdale dot edu slash Jesse.
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Do it for Independence Day. Go learn about the Constitution
with your kids. Hillsdale dot edu slash Jesse. We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
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Speaker 1 (12:13):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. On a magnificent Thursday,
Independence Day eve. In a rebel yell, indeed, because we rebelled,
we rebelled against tyranny, we rebelled against the evil English king.
That piece of trash that he was, and we said
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no more. No, we will be free. We will cast
off our tyrant, and we will not replace him with
another one. The people of this country will choose their government,
they will govern themselves. And that is why I will
celebrate tomorrow. It's not because we don't have problems and
everything's fine, abeve abev of the I will celebrate because
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my children live free, and they live free because we
fought against tyranny and replaced it with something freaking better.
Like here's another one, Dear Top five napper. Listening to
your podcast tonight, hearing a clip of Dome answer the
questions on CBS reminds me of how we dodge that bullet.
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It's the fourth of July this week. We need to
celebrate as much as the Communists celebrate their BS holidays.
We're doing good. Momentum is building, celebrate wins, and on
the fifth, let's keep up the fight. Semper five. Maybe
we ought to just dwell on that for a moment.
Here we are on Independence Day, and I know nothing's perfect.
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I get that. I know we have all kinds of
problems FBI and spending. I get all that. What's today
like with President Kamala Harris. What well tomorrow, what's today
tomorrow like with President Joe Biden. I'll tell you what
it's not like.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's not this for the Homeland Security Department, or atleast
brand new data this week showing that in June there
were a record low number of both nationwide border encounters
and illegal immigrant apprehensions at the southern border. Here's the
craziest part. There were zero illegal immigrants released in the US.
You compare that to the highs under the Biden administration
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when we saw as many as twelve thousand encounters per day.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you know what else isn't happening with President Kamala Harris? This?
This is better than expected? Yeah, Sarah, it is. They're
talking about the jobs report, by the way.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
This is better than expected, Yeah, Sarah, it is. Look,
this jobs market is like the energizer bunny. Every single
time we expected to run out of steam, it just
keeps going and going. So these new numbers show the
US economy added one hundred and forty seven thousand jobs
in June. That was well ahead of the expectation of
about one hundred and eighteen thousand, well.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Ahead of some whispers that we heard on Wall Street of.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
A sub one hundred thousand number, So this is indeed
beating expectations. We were also expecting a slowdown. We did
not get that. This is basically in line with May,
which was revised higher. It's also good.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
News the unemployment.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You want to feel good about that bill that was
passed today, I want to feel good about something else.
I'm not even saying I like it. Well, let's go
to a Democrat. Why should I like this bill? Wokeem Jeffries,
all out assault on the care mister speaker being provided
by Planned Parenthood. The bill is an all out of
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assault on Planned Parenthood. Hey at Kim Jeffries, Should I
like this bill and miss the speaker? We want no
part of it, which is why we're fighting so hard
to stop it. Sounds like my kind of thing. Why
is he fighting so hard to stop it? Or why
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was he fighting so hard to stop it? Probably things
like this, a deportation machine that will be unleashed on
steroids by this one big ugly bill. Yes, I'm so excited.
It sounds wonderful. Anyway, steroids are underrated. No stop, I
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don't want you what Chris, It's fine let me explain.
I don't want you to ever do steroids. Okay, so
I want you to stay away from the rooids because
I don't want your heart to explode when you're thirty five.
But man, wasn't baseball speaking of America? Wasn't baseball sweet
when everyone was all juiced up? As I've gotten older,
I'm getting back into baseball and I love it now,
don't get me wrong. But everyone complained. Everyone complained that
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all the players had biceps the size of my thighs,
and there were jack and eighty bombs a year. That's
the most fun I've ever had watching baseball on my
entire life. That's fine. It's not my dad. He's not
my strength. Coach, go ahead, jam that needle in your arm, buddy,
and hit one out for all of us. Sorry, Chris,
I'm gonna clean that up. I told you I'm in
a good mood, and when I'm in a good food
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sometimes the show can take a dark turn. All right,
It can take a dark turn because I'm a dark person, really,
especially now I've been out in the sun. Doctor tiny hands,
I have two questions for you. I like you. I
never paid attention in school, so I'm still green on
the different branches and their powers. Who has more power
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the House or the Senate? Or is it like comparing
apples to oranges? Also they both suck something awful. What
which group of people are the worse or worse rhino wise?
House members or Senate members? Right, let's talk about this first.
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Who has more power the House or Senate? That is
definitely like comparing apples to oranges. You kind of nailed
that one. Keep in mind, there's what the Senate is now,
and there's what the Senate was supposed to be and
be because of something horrible called the seventeenth Amendment. What
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the Senate is now is totally totally different, totally totally
different than what the founders had intended. So let's discuss
this because look, it's American Revolution time. I mean, hold, stop, stop,
don't have a revolution. We're talking about Independence Day, and
so the American Revolution, in our constitution and our form
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of government, it's going to be on people's minds. Let's
discuss what was the intention of all of it and
where that brought us now. But you're gonna have to
wait on that because we're talking to Mike Row next.
Mike Ro's going to talk about jobs, trades, other things,
and then I swear on my life we'll geek out
on constitution stuff and send it in house and everything else.
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I bet Mike Ro takes chock. I bet he does, seriously,
anybody who works with his hands like Mike Ro does
and encourages others to do the sames. You know what,
he has testosterone, a lot of it. And I bet, look,
he's perfectly aware that our water is full of estrogen.
Full of estrogen. I mean, you heard of Kim Jeffreyes.
You think this water isn't full of estrogen? And miss
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three thousand. We'll be back with micro.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Lly returns next.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday.
All my goodness, I'm so excited for fireworks in the
parade with guns and god in America. Gosh. I love
Independence Day, and I'm so excited to talk to Mike
Rowe joining me now, somebody I've respected for a very
long time and honored to have him on the show.
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I love his content and love how he encourages young
men to perhaps forge a different path in what society's
telling them to go along. CEO of Mike Roworks Foundation,
do I have that right, Mike?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
That's close enough, man. Yeah, that's me, Mike.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Why shouldn't everybody go to college? I was always told
you gotta go to college, you gotta go to college.
Do you just want young men to be poor?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
First of all, thanks for the kind words. I stumbled
across something you put up on the other day, and
I don't know if you saw it, but I actually
commented on it because it's the same thing I've been
screaming for seventeen years. But look, the short answer is
we're individuals. And you know, when you get into politics
and when you start hearing people paint with a very
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broad brush, you know, you start to get these platitudes,
and all of them are well intended, but none of
them really make any sense. And the idea that a
four year degree is the best path for the most
people is right up there with one of the most
hair brained ideas that's ever been put forth. You know,
you can walk it back to the day we took
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shop class out of high school and ever since then,
to varying degrees, we've gotten it into our heads that
our kids are going to be screwed if they don't
borrow whatever it takes to get a four year degree,
and that has caused so many problems. I know you're
familiar with most of them, but just so your listeners know,
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in no particular order, we have seven point six million
open jobs available right now, most of them don't require
four year degree. We have one point seven trillion dollars
of student loans on the books that's never going to
get paid back. We're lending money we don't have to
kids who can't pay it back to training for jobs
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that don't exist anymore. And it really all spins out
of this misguided idea that everybody needs a four year degree.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
No, I just love that, and I've always loved that.
But granted, I come from a construction family. It's what
I did, it's what my father did, it's what my
grandfather did. And I think there's a couple of things,
just in my opinion that people will get wrong about this. First,
they think that being sweaty or dirty somehow is bad.
If you don't work in the air conditioning, then you
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have a bad job. My dad made a ton of money.
You got sweaty and dirty his entire life. And I
think they think it means you're going to not have
as much money. But I've I've worked with somebody who
had one hundred thousand dollars in college debt. He was
making twelve I think it was twelve dollars an hour.
He's never going to pay that off. Yet there's a
plant a mile from my house. After you're done with
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your education, you can start at one hundred and fifty
grand a year. It's just not true that sweat's bad
for you, and it's not true you're going to be poor.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Well, this is you know, from your mouth to God's ears,
you know, I mean it was it's funny. Twenty two
years ago, I shot the pilot for Dirty Jobs and
tried to sell it, and it was a tough sell.
None of the networks wanted it, you know. Discovery finally
took it, but really just to shut me up, they
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had other plans for me, and I just, you know,
did a couple episodes of this thing because for the
exact reason you're saying Jesse did. Network executives are not
much different than concerned parents, you know. They they they
want to make the right call. And at the time,
nobody had ever really celebrated jobs that take place out
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of sight and out of mind, and that require you
to deal with feces from every species and all sorts
of these other things. It just didn't seem like something
people would want to watch. But holy cow man, once
that pilot went on the air, we got thousands, tens
of thousands of letters from viewers, not telling me how
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funny I was or how much they loved the show. Necessarily,
it was more about hey, Mike, if you think that's dirty,
way do you see what my dad does, my brother,
my cousin, my sister. Right, And so there was a
real enthusiasm for the country that a lot of people
have missed. That comes down to celebrating and honest day's
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work and really paying tribute to people who show up early,
stay late, you know, go to work clean, come home dirty,
and somehow keep polite society on the So I got
very lucky with that show. It was ahead of the curve.
And so when I started Microworks on Labor Day of
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two thousand and eight, it was really just a love
letter to a couple million open jobs we had at
the time that nobody seemed to want. Today, it's something else,
and I'm not really sure how to describe it, but
I'll tell you. We've We've awarded thirteen million dollars in
work ethic scholarships. We've helped train twenty five hundred men
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and women for a long list of jobs that need
to get done but simply don't have the popular enthusiasm
behind them. But most of them pay well into the
six figures. So that's kind of what I do with
my life these days. I work with big companies. I've
worked with governors. Governor Abbott and I are embarking on
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a big endeavor to help Texas lead the charge to
close the skills gap and reinvigorate the trades. CEOs from
companies from sea to Shining Sea believe me, they've got
the memo. The shortage of skilled workers is real and
it's about to become a problem that's going to be
headline news.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm afraid, Mike again, speaking with Mike Rowe, CEO of
Mike row Works. Mike, can you I just I get
these emails all the time because this is something I'm
passionate about. I talk about it all the time, and
so I'm telling you right now there are a whole
bunch of chair of parents leaning into the radio when
they hear wait a minute, scholarships. Scholarships to what? Because
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I get questions of Jesse, Where do I even find
a trade school? Where do I go? How long is it?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
What?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Could you please explain that process to every parent of
teenage boys like I am who's interested in this. I
have a sixteen year old he's already told me that's
where he's going. I'm interested in this. What do we do?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Sure? Sure. Well, the first thing not to oversell it,
but you have to understand the totality of the problem
and what's caused it. Seven point six million open jobs
in manufacturing and skilled trades is a result of something right,
and it's really two things. First, it's just bad math.
We've got a demographic problem. For every five trades people
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who retire this year, too will replace them, and it's
been that way for twelve years, so the labor pool
gets smaller and smaller every year. We also are still
dealing with stigmas and stereotypes and myths and misperceptions and
just all kinds of bad information that have led people
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to conclude that there's no real opportunity in these vocations.
That's why we got where we got to answer your question.
There's many many ways to get to find a trade
school in your area, or an apprenticeship program or a
community college that might offer some kind of OTJ or
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on the job training. It's as simple as going online. Honestly,
you can go to my website microworks dot org and
while there there's always a big pile of free money.
I mean, we do this every nine months, and you know,
I mean, it's we're modest by foundation standards, but still
twelve thirteen million dollars is left to mark. So my
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advice to parents really is is to don't make the
mistake that got us here in the first place. I
don't know what's best for your kid, but I do
know that they deserve an honest look at all of
the options that are out there. And you know, I
worry that when we put our thumb on the scale,
we just skew the whole conversation to the point. Your
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point actually that these misperceptions are keeping kids from giving
these trades an honest look. Laugh point. Sorry for the filibuster,
but it's important. Not a week goes by where I
don't get a call like the one I just got
from the Blue Forge Alliance. These guys represent fifteen thousand
companies who collectively build our submarines. They've got to deliver
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three per year to the US Navy. I'm talking of
Virginia Class and Columbia Class subs, incredibly complicated and really
really important part of our national defense. These guys called me,
I swear to god, I'm not making it up. They said,
we're having a hell of a time finding tradespeople can
you help us? I said, maybe, how many do you need?
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They said one hundred and forty thousand, one hundred and
forty thousand. They said, we've looked everywhere. Do you know
where they are? And I said, yeah, man, I do
know where they are. They're in the eighth grade. And
that's what we're dealing with now. Not a week goes.
I've heard from the automotive industry eighty thousand openings in
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collision repair and technical jobs. The energy industry, my god,
don't even get me started, three hundred thousand openings at
least welders electricians. I just talked. Was at a conference,
the Aspen Ideas Festival, whatever that is, but I was
there and I listened to the CEO of Blackrock and
Wells Fargo talk about the need for half a million electricians.
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So these guys got the memo, Jesse. It's like it's
out there and you can start to see the ship
turn around. But the bottom line is the opportunities are real.
Scholarship money is available. The country needs enthusiastic skilled workers
way more than we need enthusiastic pairalegals and actuarial accountants.
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With all due respect to those vocations. AI is coming.
AI is here. Those jobs are in peril. Plumbers and electricians,
job security like I've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
He is Mike Rowe. I am a fan of Mike heart.
They ever have guests on my show. It's a very
rare thing. You can come join me anytime you want.
This is what young men need. I want to point
this out microworks dot org, mikerowworks dot org. Parents, I'm
sure you're scrambling there right now. Go Mike. I appreciate
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you very much, My brother come back soon.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Appreciate you too. Man. Have a great and happy Independence
Day you too.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
How about that? We'll be back.
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Smile,
put a smile on your face. It's you can almost
sniff Independence Day from here, although honestly that might just
be Chris. I'm smelling it's Independence Day Eve. You can
email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now,
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as promised, let's discuss because somebody emailed in and it
may sound basic, and a lot of it may be basic,
but people don't know the difference between the House and
the Senate, and you know which group was worse for
rhinos and whatnot. Well, first let's discuss this the founders
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of the country. They were obviously obsessed with ensuring people
could be free and would remain free. And it's easy
to pick at the constitution today, Declaration of Independence, Constitution,
all those things, but keep in mind what a daunting
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task it is not to create a government for the moment.
To create a government that will last, you have to
create a government that it's not just good for seventeen
seventy six. Is this kind of government? Is it going
to be okay in eighteen seventy six? In nineteen seventy six,
what are we dealing with here? And one of their
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challenges was, how do we ensure smaller states don't get
smashed by larger states? Because even back then there were rich,
powerful states like New York. How do we ensure that
smaller states and their desires don't get trampled by the
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larger states and their desires while at the same time
ensuring that the population is properly represented. And let's pause
on this for a moment, because maybe you're thinking well,
they were all unified back then. I want you to
know something. A lot of people actually don't know this religion,
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various forms of Christianity. They were different state to state
back then, and I don't mean small differences. There were
Quakers and there were Presbyterians, and there were multiple So
one state would have, you know, this is their belief system,
and the other state would have this belief system. They
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did not always get along. In fact, they were at
each other's throat vat a lot. From the outside looking in,
probably for someone like Chris, that kind of looks crazy.
I don't get it. It's the Bible, it's Jesus. Why
aren't you getting along? And honestly, I kind of think
the same thing lots of times. But just know that
it did matter to them. So there were big differences,
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religious differences, a central banking differences, all kinds of differences
back then. How do you set up a government where
the people are represented equally? No, so everybody will have
a member of the House of Representatives. He represents so
many people and the small states don't get stomped by
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the big states. That that small states not getting stomped
by the big states. That's why they gave us the Senate.
That's why Montana gets the same number of senators as California.
That's why Delaware gets the same number of senators as
New York. When it comes to the Senate, large or small,
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the states have equality with their representation. Now, let's discuss
what we talked about before, about how it's so different
now than it was then. Senators get elected how now
by vote, by a state wide vote. So if you
want to get elected senator in Arizona, all the citizens
of Arizona will go decide, well, I want this person
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to be my senator. That is not absolutely not how
it was supposed to be in this country. Before the
seventeenth Amendment, the state legislatures they would pick a senator
to go represent them in Washington, DC. Created a completely
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different type of representation in the Senate. But let's not
talk about what it was. Let's talk about what it
is now. Because you asked, who are the orse rhinows,
what are the different things? Well, you could probably argue,
and Thomas Jefferson would argue this that the House is
more powerful, at least should be more powerful, because the
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House has the power of the purse. It is the
House of Representatives that controls the budget, that controls everything.
That's how it's supposed to work. But the Senate also
has crucial roles to play, crucial roles to play different,
different than the power of the purse, but crucial roles
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like judges. Those haven't been in the news at all, right, judges. Yeah,
the Senate has to give the old thumbs up or
down on all those judges who are doing all those
terrible things. By the way, if you want a little
light reading that'll make your head pop off with rage,
(36:53):
go read how many Republican senators voted for these communist
judges who were screwing everything up or skipped the vote entirely.
And them skipping the vote is the reason these communist
judges got approved. Anyway, we're not having time for them.
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We're not doing that today because that's just gonna make
me angry. Now, you ask which group of people are
the worst rhino wise, it's always the senators. I know
there are bad members of the House, but I've said
this before, I'll say it again. There is a tiny,
relatively tiny cabal of ten to fifteen GOP senators. Ten
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to fifteen GOP senators. They are the ones with their
foot in the door, holding the door open for Democrats
to savage this country like the animals. They are people
like James Langford, Mike Rownds, Bill Cassidy, John Thune, Mitch McConnell,
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John Cornyn. I could go down the list, Curtis, the Lindsay,
Landy Graham, all of them. They are the ones. You know,
they'll give you a little win here and a little
win there, and a little win here, and right when
we get to that crucial moment where we can drop
the hammer on communism and stop it boot stop it
right then and there, that's when they'll step Boh, guys,
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I'm Landy Graham. We can't do that. I'd rather bomb.
I'd rather bomb every country on the planet than stop
American communism. The Senate is where the rhinoes are, and
that's why it's so beneficial that we are getting rid
of them. The Tom Tillis's John Corny, and I believe
is going to lose his primary. In fact, he probably
won't drop out ahead of time. Another thing to feel
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good about anyway, Let's do another hour, Let's do all
kinds of stuff. What would the show be like if
Chris left China in the twenty twenty election. Let me
talk to you about this. How do the pipes look
in your house, in your walls, in the ceiling?
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They look right now? Oh, you can't see them. You
know that those pictures you treasure in that baby album,
wedding album, they are one pipe burst away from disappearing forever.
You can't duplicate them, you can't get them back. You
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are one wire turning into a fire. Yes, I know
that rhyme from losing all those home movies you have
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back
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Thursday. Oh
my goodness, I am so unbelievably excited. And do you
(00:32):
know why I'm excited?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Freedom is not free.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Because Independence Day is tomorrow, and I am just like, Look,
you're gonna have to get used to this. I'm gonna
be obnoxious all night long. I can't help it. I
love Independence Day. I love my country. It's asked doctor
Jesse Thursday. Life is freaking good. The questions are amazing.
(00:56):
Everything from food to July fourth, to the big beautiful
build Congress to everything else under the sun will be
discussed over the next three hours. And before I forget
a half hour from now, the great Mike Rowe. You
know Mike row Mike ro Of course, everybody knows who
Mike Rowe is. Mike Rowe, the guy who's been teaching
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us about the greatness of the trades and all that
stuff for so long. He knows I'm hot on that too,
and he will be joining the show a half hour
from now to talk about you and me and jobs
and the economy and yes, Chris, we will discuss what's
on the grill for Independence Day. I love it. Okay,
(01:43):
I've got to give your heads up about something. I
don't want to talk about. The bill. I don't Uh.
Maybe you're just now joining us. Maybe you're just now
getting in a car. I've been paying attention to the news.
This was Mike Johnson earlier today.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
This vote, the ya's are to eighteen, the nayser two
fourteen is adopted.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You got it. The bill passed. Maybe you love it,
maybe you hate it. There you go, there's your breaking
news of the day. I don't care to talk about
it anymore. Sorry, I'm not interested whatsoever. It's gigantic, way
too big, spends way too much. There are some wonderful
things in it, some absolutely disgusting, criminal, embarrassing things in it.
That's how life goes. Congress is evil, corrupt, and horrible.
I'm not going to be dragged down on this day.
(02:28):
The bill passed, Trump signed it, YadA, YadA, YadA. There
you go, there's your breaking news. Jesse. Do you think
there's any chance of an attack on America on the fourth,
or more importantly, next year, on the two hundred and
fiftieth birthday celebration? Okay, there's a reason I wanted to
open up with this question. Maybe maybe there is Maybe
(02:54):
maybe Iran's gonna go set off a bomb somewhere. Maybe
another one of these TRAINNY terrorists is going to go
murder a bunch of people. Maybe maybe, maybe maybe maybe
I don't know, I don't know. There could be an
attack going on right now. I don't know. But let
me tell you something. There's nothing, nothing in this world
(03:17):
that would keep me from celebrating Independence Day. Do you
know what I'm doing on Independence Day? There's this town
close to us, well, I stay close about an hour away.
They have the most ridiculous, over the top, red, white,
and Blue God and Country Independence Day parade that morning. Now,
(03:44):
I hate parades. Hate parades. I think they're the most boring,
lame thing in the world. Not this one. They'll have
guns laid out on the table you can just buy.
They'll have they do American Revolution re enactments with squirt
guns where there where. The British are shooting squirt guns
at the kids, and the kids are throwing water balloons back.
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It is the most over the top thing in the world.
And I'm going I don't care what the threats are.
I don't care what the danger is. I'm going And
then tomorrow night I have a vat of fireworks that
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is probably equal or perhaps exceeding the fireworks that will
be set off in many towns across the United States
of America. No, it's not for the whole neighborhood. It's
just for me. I mean me, the kids, ob my
fam a couple other family members, a couple of friends
coming over. And there's nothing that's gonna stop me from
(04:49):
setting it off. And do you know why, Because I
am so insanely grateful to be an American and you
shoot to what we have here because it's all we've
ever known. If you're an American listening to this, because
it's all we've ever known, we don't even I don't
fully appreciate how amazing it is to live in a
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country that had a revolution. We had a revolution against
the most powerful empire on the planet. You could make
the argument that the British Empire when we had our revolution,
was the most powerful revolution or most powerful empire in
human history. They had Australia, then India, America. The sun
(05:36):
never sets on the British Empire. All that stuff was true.
This ridiculously powerful empire. And yet they started to do
what evil tyrannical governments do. They started to poke and
poke and poke. We're not going to let you do this,
and we're not going to let you do that, and
we're going to tax this, and we're going to abuse
you with that, and we're going to abuse you with this.
(05:57):
Almost like they were daring us to revolt. Almost like
they were daring us to have a revolution. But you
know all that, Here's what you maybe don't know. Revolutions
are awful almost every single time because whenever you remove
a government, even an evil one, Mao will make it.
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Mao maybe the most evil man who ever lived. Even
if you had a revolution in China when Mao was
busy killing fifty million of his own people, even if
that happened, you know who would usually almost every time,
you know who would take over. The warlord who has
the most guns and most power and honestly is the
(06:42):
most violent. That's who wins the wars most of the time.
You realize that the most violent gun happy person, weapon
happy person who's able to kill more people than other people,
he takes over for the tyrant who just got kicked
out and then he does worse things than the other
tyrant did. Actually, that's a really good point, Chris. Haiti
is a great example. Haiti. Everyone knows about the transit
(07:04):
trans atlantic slave trade and all that, and I know
America and that America is the only one, but it
was South America or the Caribbean.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It was a big business. It was a global business.
You'd be hard pressed to find in that era a
more despicable slavery condition than Haiti had at the time,
because it was sugarcane and that's so labor intensive and
just the abuse. And so you're looking at Haiti at
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the time and you're thinking to yourself, Wow, they should
cast that off, they should have a revolution, they should revolt,
and they did. Whoo, yes, let's get rid of them. Yep,
Haiti's the biggest dump on the planet today. You could
easily argue that Haiti is worse today than it was
when they had slaves. They're eating each other in the place.
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Revolutions don't work out, that's not a thing that happens. Oh,
Revolutions happen, and the people are as bad or worse
off every single time. Now, let's talk about this. The
men who led our revolution. They were the top one
(08:17):
percenters of their time. It wasn't just you know, a
peasant revolt where you or me were unhappy with the taxes.
I can't, I can't. No no, no, no, no. Our political leaders,
our business leaders, Patrick Henry, you know Patrick Henry. Everyone
knows at least the saying give me liberty or give
me death.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Patrick Henry was the five time governor of Virginia. Our
top and elite. They led our revolution against the British crown.
And so you have these elite guys, politicians and wealthy people.
John Hancock, you know that huge signature on the declaration everybody,
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John Hancock. John Hancock was like a billionaire. I mean
not a billionaire, but compared to his time, pretty much
was a billionaire. Our elite read led a revolution against
the British crown. Now, let me ask you something. If
Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump and Elon Musk and all
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the elite, all the Rhonda Santus will make it the
political elite too, all the political and wealthy elite, if
they all banded together and they had a revolution today,
what kind of government would they give us next? Do
you think. Do you think they would all have the
kind of government all agree to give us, the kind
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of government that stripped them of power. That doesn't happen.
They would come up with a kind of government that
gives them more power and more money, like happens in
every other revolution, but not here, not in the United
States of America. We replaced a tyrant with freedom, and
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that never happens. You, an American citizen, can turn off
the Jesse Kelly Show right now and go buy a
billboard in your town that says Donald Trump sucks. And
you know what will happen to you? Nothing, because you
are free, a free American, and you are free because
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we had the greatest revolution ever. I don't care what
may happen on the fourth of July, I will be
out there waving the red, white, and blue, celebrating the
unbelievable blessing that I am an American, and I hope
you will join me. By the way, I had a
(10:49):
chance to have a discussion today with somebody. He is
a professor. He knows more about American history. He's forgotten
more about American history than I will ever know in
my entire lifetime. His name is Wilfred McLay. By the way,
Wilfred McLay. And you know what he told me. I
(11:13):
was asking him about how do you teach history? Because
he's a professor. How do you teach history? How do
you teach you? How do you present it? You know
what he said to me. It just blessed me. He said,
I feel like I have an obligat obligation as a
history teacher to create good citizens.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh, hold on. You know where he teaches, Hillsdale College.
He's the chair in Classical History and Western Civilization at
Hillsdale College. Do you think maybe you think, maybe you
your children would benefit from taking a free online course
at Hillsdale College. Just maybe free Hillsdale dot edu slash Jesse.
(11:57):
Do it for Independence Day. Go learn about the Constitution
with your kids. Hillsdale dot edu slash Jesse. We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show. On a magnificent Thursday,
Independence Day eve. In a rebel yell, indeed, because we rebelled,
we rebelled against tyranny, we rebelled against the evil English king.
That piece of trash that he was, and we said
(12:34):
no more. No, we will be free. We will cast
off our tyrant, and we will not replace him with
another one. The people of this country will choose their government,
they will govern themselves. And that is why I will
celebrate tomorrow. It's not because we don't have problems and
everything's fine, abeve abev of the I will celebrate because
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my children live free, and they live free because we
fought against tyranny and replaced it with something freaking better.
Like here's another one, Dear Top five napper. Listening to
your podcast tonight, hearing a clip of Dome answer the
questions on CBS reminds me of how we dodge that bullet.
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It's the fourth of July this week. We need to
celebrate as much as the Communists celebrate their BS holidays.
We're doing good. Momentum is building, celebrate wins, and on
the fifth, let's keep up the fight. Semper five. Maybe
we ought to just dwell on that for a moment.
Here we are on Independence Day, and I know nothing's perfect.
(13:45):
I get that. I know we have all kinds of
problems FBI and spending. I get all that. What's today
like with President Kamala Harris. What well tomorrow, what's today
tomorrow like with President Joe Biden. I'll tell you what
it's not like.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's not this for the Homeland Security Department, or atleast
brand new data this week showing that in June there
were a record low number of both nationwide border encounters
and illegal immigrant apprehensions at the southern border. Here's the
craziest part. There were zero illegal immigrants released in the US.
You compare that to the highs under the Biden administration
(14:23):
when we saw as many as twelve thousand encounters per day.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you know what else isn't happening with President Kamala Harris? This?
This is better than expected? Yeah, Sarah, it is. They're
talking about the jobs report, by the way.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
This is better than expected, Yeah, Sarah, it is. Look,
this jobs market is like the energizer bunny. Every single
time we expected to run out of steam, it just
keeps going and going. So these new numbers show the
US economy added one hundred and forty seven thousand jobs
in June. That was well ahead of the expectation of
about one hundred and eighteen thousand, well.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Ahead of some whispers that we heard on Wall Street of.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
A sub one hundred thousand number, So this is indeed
beating expectations. We were also expecting a slowdown. We did
not get that. This is basically in line with May,
which was revised higher. It's also good.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
News the unemployment.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You want to feel good about that bill that was
passed today, I want to feel good about something else.
I'm not even saying I like it. Well, let's go
to a Democrat. Why should I like this bill? Wokeem Jeffries,
all out assault on the care mister speaker being provided
by Planned Parenthood. The bill is an all out of
(15:34):
assault on Planned Parenthood. Hey at Kim Jeffries, Should I
like this bill and miss the speaker? We want no
part of it, which is why we're fighting so hard
to stop it. Sounds like my kind of thing. Why
is he fighting so hard to stop it? Or why
(15:54):
was he fighting so hard to stop it? Probably things
like this, a deportation machine that will be unleashed on
steroids by this one big ugly bill. Yes, I'm so excited.
It sounds wonderful. Anyway, steroids are underrated. No stop, I
(16:16):
don't want you what Chris, It's fine let me explain.
I don't want you to ever do steroids. Okay, so
I want you to stay away from the rooids because
I don't want your heart to explode when you're thirty five.
But man, wasn't baseball speaking of America? Wasn't baseball sweet
when everyone was all juiced up? As I've gotten older,
I'm getting back into baseball and I love it now,
don't get me wrong. But everyone complained. Everyone complained that
(16:38):
all the players had biceps the size of my thighs,
and there were jack and eighty bombs a year. That's
the most fun I've ever had watching baseball on my
entire life. That's fine. It's not my dad. He's not
my strength. Coach, go ahead, jam that needle in your arm, buddy,
and hit one out for all of us. Sorry, Chris,
I'm gonna clean that up. I told you I'm in
a good mood, and when I'm in a good food
(17:00):
sometimes the show can take a dark turn. All right,
It can take a dark turn because I'm a dark person, really,
especially now I've been out in the sun. Doctor tiny hands,
I have two questions for you. I like you. I
never paid attention in school, so I'm still green on
the different branches and their powers. Who has more power
(17:21):
the House or the Senate? Or is it like comparing
apples to oranges? Also they both suck something awful. What
which group of people are the worse or worse rhino wise?
House members or Senate members? Right, let's talk about this first.
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Who has more power the House or Senate? That is
definitely like comparing apples to oranges. You kind of nailed
that one. Keep in mind, there's what the Senate is now,
and there's what the Senate was supposed to be and
be because of something horrible called the seventeenth Amendment. What
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the Senate is now is totally totally different, totally totally
different than what the founders had intended. So let's discuss
this because look, it's American Revolution time. I mean, hold, stop, stop,
don't have a revolution. We're talking about Independence Day, and
so the American Revolution, in our constitution and our form
(18:26):
of government, it's going to be on people's minds. Let's
discuss what was the intention of all of it and
where that brought us now. But you're gonna have to
wait on that because we're talking to Mike Row next.
Mike Ro's going to talk about jobs, trades, other things,
and then I swear on my life we'll geek out
on constitution stuff and send it in house and everything else.
(18:46):
I bet Mike Ro takes chock. I bet he does, seriously,
anybody who works with his hands like Mike Ro does
and encourages others to do the sames. You know what,
he has testosterone, a lot of it. And I bet, look,
he's perfectly aware that our water is full of estrogen.
Full of estrogen. I mean, you heard of Kim Jeffreyes.
You think this water isn't full of estrogen? And miss
(19:09):
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three thousand. We'll be back with micro.
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Lly returns next.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday.
All my goodness, I'm so excited for fireworks in the
parade with guns and god in America. Gosh. I love
Independence Day, and I'm so excited to talk to Mike
Rowe joining me now, somebody I've respected for a very
long time and honored to have him on the show.
(20:26):
I love his content and love how he encourages young
men to perhaps forge a different path in what society's
telling them to go along. CEO of Mike Roworks Foundation,
do I have that right, Mike?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
That's close enough, man. Yeah, that's me, Mike.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Why shouldn't everybody go to college? I was always told
you gotta go to college, you gotta go to college.
Do you just want young men to be poor?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
First of all, thanks for the kind words. I stumbled
across something you put up on the other day, and
I don't know if you saw it, but I actually
commented on it because it's the same thing I've been
screaming for seventeen years. But look, the short answer is
we're individuals. And you know, when you get into politics
and when you start hearing people paint with a very
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broad brush, you know, you start to get these platitudes,
and all of them are well intended, but none of
them really make any sense. And the idea that a
four year degree is the best path for the most
people is right up there with one of the most
hair brained ideas that's ever been put forth. You know,
you can walk it back to the day we took
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shop class out of high school and ever since then,
to varying degrees, we've gotten it into our heads that
our kids are going to be screwed if they don't
borrow whatever it takes to get a four year degree,
and that has caused so many problems. I know you're
familiar with most of them, but just so your listeners know,
(22:01):
in no particular order, we have seven point six million
open jobs available right now, most of them don't require
four year degree. We have one point seven trillion dollars
of student loans on the books that's never going to
get paid back. We're lending money we don't have to
kids who can't pay it back to training for jobs
(22:22):
that don't exist anymore. And it really all spins out
of this misguided idea that everybody needs a four year degree.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
No, I just love that, and I've always loved that.
But granted, I come from a construction family. It's what
I did, it's what my father did, it's what my
grandfather did. And I think there's a couple of things,
just in my opinion that people will get wrong about this. First,
they think that being sweaty or dirty somehow is bad.
If you don't work in the air conditioning, then you
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have a bad job. My dad made a ton of money.
You got sweaty and dirty his entire life. And I
think they think it means you're going to not have
as much money. But I've I've worked with somebody who
had one hundred thousand dollars in college debt. He was
making twelve I think it was twelve dollars an hour.
He's never going to pay that off. Yet there's a
plant a mile from my house. After you're done with
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your education, you can start at one hundred and fifty
grand a year. It's just not true that sweat's bad
for you, and it's not true you're going to be poor.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Well, this is you know, from your mouth to God's ears,
you know, I mean it was it's funny. Twenty two
years ago, I shot the pilot for Dirty Jobs and
tried to sell it, and it was a tough sell.
None of the networks wanted it, you know. Discovery finally
took it, but really just to shut me up, they
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had other plans for me, and I just, you know,
did a couple episodes of this thing because for the
exact reason you're saying Jesse did. Network executives are not
much different than concerned parents, you know. They they they
want to make the right call. And at the time,
nobody had ever really celebrated jobs that take place out
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of sight and out of mind, and that require you
to deal with feces from every species and all sorts
of these other things. It just didn't seem like something
people would want to watch. But holy cow man, once
that pilot went on the air, we got thousands, tens
of thousands of letters from viewers, not telling me how
(24:27):
funny I was or how much they loved the show. Necessarily,
it was more about hey, Mike, if you think that's dirty,
way do you see what my dad does, my brother,
my cousin, my sister. Right, And so there was a
real enthusiasm for the country that a lot of people
have missed. That comes down to celebrating and honest day's
(24:47):
work and really paying tribute to people who show up early,
stay late, you know, go to work clean, come home dirty,
and somehow keep polite society on the So I got
very lucky with that show. It was ahead of the curve.
And so when I started Microworks on Labor Day of
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two thousand and eight, it was really just a love
letter to a couple million open jobs we had at
the time that nobody seemed to want. Today, it's something else,
and I'm not really sure how to describe it, but
I'll tell you. We've We've awarded thirteen million dollars in
work ethic scholarships. We've helped train twenty five hundred men
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and women for a long list of jobs that need
to get done but simply don't have the popular enthusiasm
behind them. But most of them pay well into the
six figures. So that's kind of what I do with
my life these days. I work with big companies. I've
worked with governors. Governor Abbott and I are embarking on
(25:49):
a big endeavor to help Texas lead the charge to
close the skills gap and reinvigorate the trades. CEOs from
companies from sea to Shining Sea believe me, they've got
the memo. The shortage of skilled workers is real and
it's about to become a problem that's going to be
headline news.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm afraid, Mike again, speaking with Mike Rowe, CEO of
Mike row Works. Mike, can you I just I get
these emails all the time because this is something I'm
passionate about. I talk about it all the time, and
so I'm telling you right now there are a whole
bunch of chair of parents leaning into the radio when
they hear wait a minute, scholarships. Scholarships to what? Because
(26:31):
I get questions of Jesse, Where do I even find
a trade school? Where do I go? How long is it?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
What?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Could you please explain that process to every parent of
teenage boys like I am who's interested in this. I
have a sixteen year old he's already told me that's
where he's going. I'm interested in this. What do we do?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Sure? Sure. Well, the first thing not to oversell it,
but you have to understand the totality of the problem
and what's caused it. Seven point six million open jobs
in manufacturing and skilled trades is a result of something right,
and it's really two things. First, it's just bad math.
We've got a demographic problem. For every five trades people
(27:11):
who retire this year, too will replace them, and it's
been that way for twelve years, so the labor pool
gets smaller and smaller every year. We also are still
dealing with stigmas and stereotypes and myths and misperceptions and
just all kinds of bad information that have led people
(27:31):
to conclude that there's no real opportunity in these vocations.
That's why we got where we got to answer your question.
There's many many ways to get to find a trade
school in your area, or an apprenticeship program or a
community college that might offer some kind of OTJ or
(27:52):
on the job training. It's as simple as going online. Honestly,
you can go to my website microworks dot org and
while there there's always a big pile of free money.
I mean, we do this every nine months, and you know,
I mean, it's we're modest by foundation standards, but still
twelve thirteen million dollars is left to mark. So my
(28:15):
advice to parents really is is to don't make the
mistake that got us here in the first place. I
don't know what's best for your kid, but I do
know that they deserve an honest look at all of
the options that are out there. And you know, I
worry that when we put our thumb on the scale,
we just skew the whole conversation to the point. Your
(28:39):
point actually that these misperceptions are keeping kids from giving
these trades an honest look. Laugh point. Sorry for the filibuster,
but it's important. Not a week goes by where I
don't get a call like the one I just got
from the Blue Forge Alliance. These guys represent fifteen thousand
companies who collectively build our submarines. They've got to deliver
(29:03):
three per year to the US Navy. I'm talking of
Virginia Class and Columbia Class subs, incredibly complicated and really
really important part of our national defense. These guys called me,
I swear to god, I'm not making it up. They said,
we're having a hell of a time finding tradespeople can
you help us? I said, maybe, how many do you need?
(29:24):
They said one hundred and forty thousand, one hundred and
forty thousand. They said, we've looked everywhere. Do you know
where they are? And I said, yeah, man, I do
know where they are. They're in the eighth grade. And
that's what we're dealing with now. Not a week goes.
I've heard from the automotive industry eighty thousand openings in
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collision repair and technical jobs. The energy industry, my god,
don't even get me started, three hundred thousand openings at
least welders electricians. I just talked. Was at a conference,
the Aspen Ideas Festival, whatever that is, but I was
there and I listened to the CEO of Blackrock and
Wells Fargo talk about the need for half a million electricians.
(30:09):
So these guys got the memo, Jesse. It's like it's
out there and you can start to see the ship
turn around. But the bottom line is the opportunities are real.
Scholarship money is available. The country needs enthusiastic skilled workers
way more than we need enthusiastic pairalegals and actuarial accountants.
(30:29):
With all due respect to those vocations. AI is coming.
AI is here. Those jobs are in peril. Plumbers and electricians,
job security like I've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
He is Mike Rowe. I am a fan of Mike heart.
They ever have guests on my show. It's a very
rare thing. You can come join me anytime you want.
This is what young men need. I want to point
this out microworks dot org, mikerowworks dot org. Parents, I'm
sure you're scrambling there right now. Go Mike. I appreciate
(31:03):
you very much, My brother come back soon.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Appreciate you too. Man. Have a great and happy Independence
Day you too.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
How about that? We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
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Speaker 1 (31:23):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Smile,
put a smile on your face. It's you can almost
sniff Independence Day from here, although honestly that might just
be Chris. I'm smelling it's Independence Day Eve. You can
email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now,
(31:45):
as promised, let's discuss because somebody emailed in and it
may sound basic, and a lot of it may be basic,
but people don't know the difference between the House and
the Senate, and you know which group was worse for
rhinos and whatnot. Well, first let's discuss this the founders
(32:06):
of the country. They were obviously obsessed with ensuring people
could be free and would remain free. And it's easy
to pick at the constitution today, Declaration of Independence, Constitution,
all those things, but keep in mind what a daunting
(32:26):
task it is not to create a government for the moment.
To create a government that will last, you have to
create a government that it's not just good for seventeen
seventy six. Is this kind of government? Is it going
to be okay in eighteen seventy six? In nineteen seventy six,
what are we dealing with here? And one of their
(32:48):
challenges was, how do we ensure smaller states don't get
smashed by larger states? Because even back then there were rich,
powerful states like New York. How do we ensure that
smaller states and their desires don't get trampled by the
(33:10):
larger states and their desires while at the same time
ensuring that the population is properly represented. And let's pause
on this for a moment, because maybe you're thinking well,
they were all unified back then. I want you to
know something. A lot of people actually don't know this religion,
(33:32):
various forms of Christianity. They were different state to state
back then, and I don't mean small differences. There were
Quakers and there were Presbyterians, and there were multiple So
one state would have, you know, this is their belief system,
and the other state would have this belief system. They
(33:55):
did not always get along. In fact, they were at
each other's throat vat a lot. From the outside looking in,
probably for someone like Chris, that kind of looks crazy.
I don't get it. It's the Bible, it's Jesus. Why
aren't you getting along? And honestly, I kind of think
the same thing lots of times. But just know that
it did matter to them. So there were big differences,
(34:17):
religious differences, a central banking differences, all kinds of differences
back then. How do you set up a government where
the people are represented equally? No, so everybody will have
a member of the House of Representatives. He represents so
many people and the small states don't get stomped by
(34:38):
the big states. That that small states not getting stomped
by the big states. That's why they gave us the Senate.
That's why Montana gets the same number of senators as California.
That's why Delaware gets the same number of senators as
New York. When it comes to the Senate, large or small,
(35:02):
the states have equality with their representation. Now, let's discuss
what we talked about before, about how it's so different
now than it was then. Senators get elected how now
by vote, by a state wide vote. So if you
want to get elected senator in Arizona, all the citizens
of Arizona will go decide, well, I want this person
(35:24):
to be my senator. That is not absolutely not how
it was supposed to be in this country. Before the
seventeenth Amendment, the state legislatures they would pick a senator
to go represent them in Washington, DC. Created a completely
(35:47):
different type of representation in the Senate. But let's not
talk about what it was. Let's talk about what it
is now. Because you asked, who are the orse rhinows,
what are the different things? Well, you could probably argue,
and Thomas Jefferson would argue this that the House is
more powerful, at least should be more powerful, because the
(36:07):
House has the power of the purse. It is the
House of Representatives that controls the budget, that controls everything.
That's how it's supposed to work. But the Senate also
has crucial roles to play, crucial roles to play different,
different than the power of the purse, but crucial roles
(36:29):
like judges. Those haven't been in the news at all, right, judges. Yeah,
the Senate has to give the old thumbs up or
down on all those judges who are doing all those
terrible things. By the way, if you want a little
light reading that'll make your head pop off with rage,
(36:53):
go read how many Republican senators voted for these communist
judges who were screwing everything up or skipped the vote entirely.
And them skipping the vote is the reason these communist
judges got approved. Anyway, we're not having time for them.
(37:13):
We're not doing that today because that's just gonna make
me angry. Now, you ask which group of people are
the worst rhino wise, it's always the senators. I know
there are bad members of the House, but I've said
this before, I'll say it again. There is a tiny,
relatively tiny cabal of ten to fifteen GOP senators. Ten
(37:37):
to fifteen GOP senators. They are the ones with their
foot in the door, holding the door open for Democrats
to savage this country like the animals. They are people
like James Langford, Mike Rownds, Bill Cassidy, John Thune, Mitch McConnell,
(37:58):
John Cornyn. I could go down the list, Curtis, the Lindsay,
Landy Graham, all of them. They are the ones. You know,
they'll give you a little win here and a little
win there, and a little win here, and right when
we get to that crucial moment where we can drop
the hammer on communism and stop it boot stop it
right then and there, that's when they'll step Boh, guys,
(38:20):
I'm Landy Graham. We can't do that. I'd rather bomb.
I'd rather bomb every country on the planet than stop
American communism. The Senate is where the rhinoes are, and
that's why it's so beneficial that we are getting rid
of them. The Tom Tillis's John Corny, and I believe
is going to lose his primary. In fact, he probably
won't drop out ahead of time. Another thing to feel
(38:42):
good about anyway, Let's do another hour, Let's do all
kinds of stuff. What would the show be like if
Chris left China in the twenty twenty election. Let me
talk to you about this. How do the pipes look
in your house, in your walls, in the ceiling?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
They look right now? Oh, you can't see them. You
know that those pictures you treasure in that baby album,
wedding album, they are one pipe burst away from disappearing forever.
You can't duplicate them, you can't get them back. You
(39:23):
are one wire turning into a fire. Yes, I know
that rhyme from losing all those home movies you have
cam quorder tapes. It's one of those terrible things. You
don't think you want to get a hold of Legacy
Box until you lose it, and then you hate yourself
that you didn't do it ahead of time. Do it
while it's fifty percent off. Digitize those memories so you'll
(39:46):
have them forever. Pipes, wires, fires, it doesn't matter fifty
percent off. Legacybox dot com slash Jesse I rest easy
knowing my memories will be there forever for my great
great great grandkids who will never meet. They'll get to
know me. Legacy box dot com slash Jessie. We'll be
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back
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