Democrats Demand BIG Changes After Government Shutdown Failure & Trump Makes WILD Economic Proposals
November 11, 2025 • 44 mins
Is the government shutdown finally coming to an end? If so, what does that mean for Chuck Schumer's future as Senate minority leader? Jesse Kelly breaks it all down alongside Chloe Trapanotto. Also joining the show is Carol Roth, who breaks down a wide variety of Trump's latest economic proposals designed to put money in your wallet. Plus, Dustin Grage gives an update on the reach of Islam in Minnesota politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The shutdown is coming to an end. Why did we
have one? Why did it end? We'll talk about that.
We're going to wish a happy birthday to the United
States Marines. All these economic proposals, all that more coming
up on our right. Okay, so the government shutdown is
(00:27):
wrapping up. No, it is not wrapped up yet, but
it is wrapping up. Let me just explain before we
get into the whys of everything. The Senate's good to go,
but the House isn't actually convened right now. The long
story short, it's going to take two or three days
for the shutdown to officially end. Now, maybe this shutdown
affected your life deeply. Maybe it didn't affect your life
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at all. I know that they've been canceling fifteen hundred
flights across the country. Maybe you're in the military, TSA,
maybe it affected you. Ch answers are unless one of
those things apply to you, travel, TSA types of things,
chances are it didn't really have a huge effect on
your life. But it did affect a lot of people. Now,
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why was there ever one to begin with? Because it's
kind of odd if you're going to just wash your
hands up everything and take a thirty thousand foot view.
Why would you do this? Why would Democrats not just
vote for ACR, which they always vote for. Republicans always
vote for it, Democrats always vote for it, which sucks,
by the way, But this time, why do something different? Well,
(01:35):
it's important before we get to their language on the thing,
it's important to understand this concept that we've talked about before,
over and over and over and over and over again.
I love to use doctor Frankenstein's monster as an example
because it is the perfect example for what has happened.
Democrat elites, Democrat politicians, people in the media. They understand
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that the motivation level of their base is really important
for them. That's what gets you people marching in the streets,
that's what gets people writing checks to your campaign, knocking
on doors. You need the Democrat base motivated. And to
motivate the Democrat base, you have to give them something
to rage against. Rage never really something for, but always against.
(02:25):
There always has to be some big devil that you're
fighting against. And for ten years, ten years that has
been Donald Trump. Endless media stories and Donald Trump is
Donald Trump, that Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, Nazi
Hitler and Democrats across the country at every level, local level,
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national level, have been able to run against Donald Trump
to motivate their base. Nothing motivates Democrats like Donald Trump. Hey,
some guy will be running for constable vote. Vote for
me and I'll stop Trump. But works motivates a Democrat base.
But like all things, that can be a negative to
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that positive. After ten years of programming, and the Democrat
base is extremely programmable. That's why they're communists. They're herd animals.
After ten years of that, what has happened is the
average Democrat. I'm not just talking about activists or crazy ones.
The average Democrat is insane, deluded. I don't know what
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insulting word you want to put on it. I'm not
even trying to insult them. They are so brainwashed now
with ten years of Trump is Hitler propaganda. They are
so brainwashed that now, well, doctor Frankenstein, the elites created
this monster. Now the monster can't be controlled. Now it's
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not necessarily the elites calling the shots anymore. Now the
monster the Democrat base. They have demands and their demand
is you stop Trump. Why don't you stopping Trump? You
have to stop Trump? To stop Trump to stop Trump.
They have demands and you can yell at them now
to you're blue in the face if you're a Democrat,
that these demands are wrong or bad for the country
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or unrealistic. They don't want to hear that. Now ten
years of programming. They want Donald Trump stopped. And so
Democrats in Congress, in the House and Senate, they felt
enormous pressure from their base to deliver some kind of
a win. Give me a win. But it's very difficult
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to have a win in Congress, even when you have
the majority, unless you have a super majority. Even then
it can be difficult. How do you get your legislation passed.
It's hard to get the votes when you have a minority.
It's pretty much impossible. So what to do? What to do? Well,
the only leverage you have is shutting down the entire
(05:08):
United States of America the government anyway, This is why
they all talked about leverage.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We need to do this while we have the leverage.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Of course, there will be you know, families that are
going to suffer, but it is one of the few
leverage times we have.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You reopen the government and we lose our leverage. There
has to be an agreement right now. That's what this
whole shutdown is about.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Frankly, this is our only moment of leverage. The idea
that you would give up all of your leverage and
then hopefully get some sort of great deal coming down
the pike is just a fool's Errand.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Why are working families the leverage the Democrats need?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You get Obamacare fixed.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It's the only lever we have.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Democrats have this one little sliver right now.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
When we've got some leverage here.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Some Republican senator have pushed a bill that would pay
government workers.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I think that just gives the president more leverage.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Leverage. What leverage did they have because they didn't have
any leverage to pass actual legislation. Well, we'll shut the
whole thing down. We'll just make it so nothing happens
at all. But it's a very dangerous game, you know what,
Playing chicken is. There are various ways you can play it.
(06:34):
One of the most common ways you see it in
the movies maybe now and then, is you get in
a car, the other guy gets in a car, and
you drive right towards each other. Very stupid please don't
do this. And the idea is you want to see
who swerves first, who turns first. But the problem with
chicken is you're banking on the other side giving in
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at some point in time. If they don't, you either
have to crash or you have to turn. It's a
very very dangerous game. This chicken. Democrats decided to play
chicken with Republicans and try to hold them hostage to
get something. And by the way, they're talking about healthcare
tax credits, that's not important. What they wanted. What they
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wanted was to go to their monster and say, hey, guys,
look we got you something. We're fighting, we got you something.
That's what they want. And the leadership in the Democrat
Party they're feeling the pressure because of this monster. That's
why Chuck Schumer faked outrage today. I must vote no.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
This healthcare crisis is so severe, so urgent, so devastating
for families back home, that I cannot in good faith
support this r that that fails to address the healthcare crisis.
The American people know who is inflicting this healthcare trauma
on them, Donald Trump and the Republicans. Health Care costs
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made a major impact on the twenty twenty five election,
and they will certainly have an even greater impact on
the twenty twenty sixth election.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think Chuck Schumer his days are over and he
cannot put that. If he cannot keep his Cucketts together,
if he cannot keep hisquocketts together, he needs to go.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You can tell how passionate he is about this as
he with his reading glasses on and this is an
outrage about the healthcare and the hang on. Let me
switch to my Chuck Schumer knows that he has to
show his base that he's out ranged, he's really mad,
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and he doesn't have to do this for any other
reason than his own power. And the fact is that
Democrats and it wasn't even Schumer that Democrats crossed the
aisle and reopen the government means Chuck Schumer may very
well be in trouble. They're already calling for his head.
Anythink Chuck Schumer needs to go after tonight.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
He should have gone a week ago, a month ago,
a year ago. Yes, yes, you talk about him and
not meeting the moment right. Every time he gets in
front of the camera, the average Democratic voter out there screams,
be done with you be done, and this will only
accelerate that.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Leadership. Doctor Frankenstein can't control this monster anymore. And look,
there are so many people in the far far left
wing fringe of Democrat politics. They understand perfectly well with
the base wants, and they make it even harder for
Democrat leadership to do anything remotely reasonable. Did you hear
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Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
Study show that will mean that some fifty thousand Americans
will die every year unnecessarily. All of that was done
to give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the
one percent. As everybody knows. Just on Tuesday, we had
an election all over this country. And what the election
showed is that the American people want us to stand
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up to trump Ism, to his war against working class people,
to his authoritarianism. That is what the American people wanted.
But tonight that is not what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Bernie Sanders knows, he knows full well. The Democrat based this,
the average Democrat voter, probably the Democrat in your life,
if you have won, a family member, a co worker.
This is how they feel. There is nothing else but
stopping Trump. If you have to burn down the United
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States of America, cancel every single flight, stop pay for
the military. Even though they may be uncomfortable with the
idea of those things, that does doesn't matter at all.
The top goal has to be stopping Trump. And of course, again,
these are programmed herd animals. That's what democrats are. They
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don't know why if you ask them. But I love
doing this whenever I encounter democrats out in the wild.
I love just asking very calmly, not argumentative, probing questions
about why, oh, you got to stop Trump from what? Why?
What is it? You'll get this blind rage sometimes, these
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vague things. Oftentimes things that aren't even real, almost all
the time, things that aren't even real, not necessarily knowledgeable
at all, but programmed over and over and over and
over and over again. But that monster is so incredibly powerful. Now,
this is wonderful news for people like you and people
like me. We get to sit back and watch the carnage.
(11:55):
But let's be frank, this is really bad for the country.
It's really a bad thing for the United States of
America that one of the two political parties completely sucks
and the other one is a suicide pack trying to
burn the nation down. This is an uncomfortable place to be,
but we'll get through it. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. We're going to talk
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about this and much more with Chloe. In a moment
before we talked, Chloe, I want to talk to you
about sleeping. Yesterday was Sunday, and look Sunday was a
busy day, a lot of caffeine, and already you start
thinking the Sunday night. You start thinking about work, don't you.
Oh my aunt got a work week coming up, school,
(12:40):
got all kinds of things. I need a good night's
sleep tonight. Start off on the right foot. That's what
dream powder is here for. You need a bag of
it in your house at all times, just as bad
I have the cinnamon chocolate. It's hot chocolate, but this
is a special hot chocolate. It's hot chocolate that puts
you to sleep, not with drugs. Natural things inside of
(13:03):
dream powder will have you sip on a cup of
hot chocolate. Half hour later. I'm tired, you drift off
to sleep. Went a nice fat discount Shotbeam dot com
slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You'd have to go back to what the strategy was
at the beginning of the shutdown, there were two goals,
both of which I support. One was standing up to
Donald Trump. The other was getting some resolution on the
ACA premium tax credit issue. The problem was the shutdown
wasn't accomplishing either goals, and there was practically well it
was zero likelihood that it was going to in terms
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of standing up to Donald Trump. The shutdown actually gave
him more power.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Do you wish that you would have started looking for
this off for him sooner? He said that Republicans were
never going to change in their position.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I I didn't fully understand how dug in they were
again because I was so focused on the Virginia elections.
I wasn't in this discussion on the healthcare to see
how dug in they were.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, joining me now, Chloe Trapenado, host of The Chloe
Trapanado Show. Chloe, Okay, So what was this? Simply a
gamble that the low TGP would grab its ankles like
they always do and they just didn't. Is that what
it was?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think it was a sanctimonious facade. It didn't take
them any time at all. When the masks are off,
every single Democrat we know and love so dearly, that
comes on our television screens every day is now saying
the exact same thing. Our number one priority was to
stop Orange bad Man. We really didn't care that we
were making forty two million American suffer. We didn't care
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that we were hurting military families. We didn't care at
all that you were going to miss your Thanksgiving dinner
because you couldn't go fly to see your aunt. We
just needed to beat Donald Trump. How are they so
publicly admitting all of this, just mere moments after the
shutdown has ended forty days, and all they have to
claim is that they tried their best, They tried to
stop Trump, they didn't end up getting anything in return,
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and all they did was hurt the American people. I
think it's quite rude.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, rude is actually a perfect way to put that.
Cloie I talked in the open about this doctor Frankenstein situation.
At least it appears to me we have where Democrats
have programmed their herd base animals for so long to
believe that Trump is the end of all, the sum
of all fears, that now that even if it hurts
the country, even if it burns down the country, you
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have to at least appear to be fighting him, or
you're not going to stay in office.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Exactly, exactly. That is all they have. And whenever Trump
leaves office, I have no idea what their claim is
going to be. I don't know what they're going to do. Well, next,
they're going to try to say that JD. Vance is
Hitler and they're going to try to make him up
just as bad as Orange bad Man. He'll be bad
couch man. But that's all they have right now. But
I guess there is one good thing that came out
of this. Americans are paying attention to civics. We're learning
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a little bit more about our government. Every time Democrats
do stupid things like this, we learn that there is
a filibuster and there's a threshold. And just because they're
spouting off that Republicans are in control of everything and
it's all Trump's fault that you're not getting your snap benefits,
Americans did a little bit more digging. They did a
little research, and they started discovering some things about our
government that they might not have known before. That, Hey,
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just because Republicans have a majority in the Senate, the House,
and the presidency, that doesn't mean they can just do
whatever they want. Our founding fathers made it so that
the party in power could not just do whatever they want.
They need to work with the other side of the aisle,
the Democrats, to get major bills and legislations passed through.
And unfortunately it took forty days for five more sane
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Democrats to work with Republicans and come over to the
side of common sense. And Americans are seeing that out
the people that we elect actually do need to work together,
They do need to have some sort of common sense
and some sort of morality to get things done in
this government. And so hopefully that shed a light on
who these people are, what they're actually electing them to do,
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and then Americans might think to themselves the next time
there's a vote an election, Okay, well, let's maybe get
somebody in here, somebody else like John Fetterman. Maybe let's
return to the moderates. Let's elect more people like that
that can actually pass legislation, get things done, and not
just throw temper tantrums and lead the American people suffering
for months on end.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, part of the problem is, as you well know,
is that you don't control the Democrat Party. Neither do
I even all the normies out there. It's Democrats who
control the Democrat Party, and they don't want John Fetterman.
I mean sure, Josh Shapiro can't even entertain running for
president because he's a Jew. Chuck Schumer is already facing
calls to get not kicked out of leadership or to
get kicked out of leadership. The Demo O base is
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not crying for moderation or reasonable or anything good for
the country. None of these calls are coming within Democrat Party.
How do we deal with that?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
How do we deal with the mom Donnie's of the world.
That's a great question, Jesse. I was reading Denise Jesus's
book this week kind of just started at the United
States of Socialism, and I think what we do is
we start to have young people my generation especially, start
to read, start to do a little bit more primary
research and read books like this that very articulately lay
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out the history of socialism and how we got to
where we are today. And maybe that won't happen. Maybe
it's going to take the younger generation many more years
to come to common sense and realize that socialism is
not the way to go. So until them, I think
the Republicans just need to do a really good job
of painting a very clear picture of exactly who they
are and what they stand for. We need to tell
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our kids, our students, our friends exactly what it is,
socialism is, exactly what communism is. We need to have
the facts on our side so that we can lay
out who the enemy is and how to defeat them
with words, with debate, because until then, Democrats are just
going to continue to spread this false messaging and promulgate
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these same poisonous ideas on TikTok throughout all of the
different algorithms, that really socialism is fine, that people like
mom Donnie are normal, that radicalism is totally cool, it's hip.
I mean, there's girls on TikTok that are saying, after
Mom Donnie one democracy is hot. You know, they're throwing
out everything they can. They're going to say they will
make everything free. Socialists will make everything free. Obviously, the
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economy is not in the best place right now, so
it's working. So I think Republicans are just going to
have to get past that messaging. When the messaging war
on different platforms like social media, we're gonna have to
do more of this new media stuff and just try
to best articulate to Americans that that's not the way
to go again. Read nineteen eighty four by George Orwell.
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I'm telling all of my tikto fans and Instagram audiences
that we just have to be armed with verbal weaponry
to win, because that is how we're going to get
past people like Zoe Run Mom Donnie. Plus they will
see over time that Zo Run Mom Donnie is horrible
for New York, and socialists overall would be horrible in
any form of leadership because it just doesn't work here
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in America. We are a capitalist, constitutional republic. The reason
that millions and millions of immigrants are trying to get
to America every single day is because we are a
capitalist society where the American dream can happen, where we
can prosper And I think the more we let socialism pervase,
the more that people won't want to come here. And
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they will because they're seeing that socialism does not equal prosperity.
So I think over time the pendulum will swing back,
but it's just going to take a lot of communication,
a lot of clear messaging and prayers because Mom Donnie
will ruin New York City.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, I think prayer are most definitely the order of day.
Can how much hope should I as a cynical crust
the old guy with gray and my beard, how much
faith should I put in people realizing that communism socialism
fails when you have cities like Chicago, they'll even go
kick their mayor out and then go find a bigger
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scumbag and install them as mayor. The lesson across the
country has not been Democrat voters learning the lesson that
Democrat policies suck. In fact, I haven't seen much of
that at all.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think you're right. I'm also cynical trying to be
positive on this lovely Monday, but it's hard in the
wake of everything that's going on. I just saw a
video of a Chicago person murdered on the side of
the street and cars were just driving past, no care
in the world. Oh dead body. That's normal there in
Chicago because the leadership is so abhorrent to look at
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things glass half empty. Forty nine to sixty percent of
gen Z and young people see socialism quite favorably, So
it's actually probably not going to get much better before
it gets much much worse. Obviously gen Z has a
lot of learning to do before they start to change
their tune. So the youngest generation of voters, they love socialism,
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they love communism. Why is that because they're not reading.
They're getting spread very poisonous messaging through TikTok via China
and so yep to feed into your cynicalness. I do
think it's going to get worse. But that's why people
like me exist. I'm common sensical. I'd like to think
I was raised conservative. I was raised Catholic with good parents,
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and so I'm going to do the best job that
I can to spread to my audience. Is that communism, socialism,
it's not the way forward. We need to return to
our capitalist values. We need to love this country once again.
We need to understand why it's good to go to church,
why capitalism works, why our founders were geniuses who made
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America the way it's supposed to be. They did not
foresee a man like mom Donnie coming into the picture
and ruining everything. So just I think explaining to young
people why we did the things, why we did things
the way that we did, and try to, I don't know,
reroute their minds to head back to that reality.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Deprogramming. If you will, Chloe, thank you, I appreciate it.
Democrats have a Jihati problem, a big one. Dustin Gregy outa,
Minnesota is going to come talk to us about it.
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Speaker 5 (24:52):
A son of an ankle.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Combin with action.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Maga yengo y ya.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
This election means, This election means, this is a moment
for unity where the entire Somali community can come together
and say, this is our people, this is our city.
We are united behind each other.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
What that's in? Hold on, let me check my notes
Minneapolis joining me now, Dustin Greggy, wonderful columnists with townhall
dot com. Hey Dunston, I'm just confirming that is in Minneapolis, Minnesota, right.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
That is correct, That is in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So this is where we are now. In order to
win the Democrat primary in a major American city, a
formerly wonderful city, I should note that you have to
ablah the land and go or what.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, it's quite fascinating how electoral politics have kind of
happened in this country, let alone, just in a small city.
Here in Minneapolis is a relatively small city in terms
of some of these other major populaces. But we also
just happen to have the largest concentration of Somali immigrants
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in the entire country. I want to say, something like
ninety percent or eighty percent of all of them in
the entire United States live in a seven county metro
of Minnesota, the Minneapolis Twin Cities Saint Paul area. So yeah,
it's kind of come to that point where in order
to win, in particular in Democrat primary, you have to
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really dig into a certain population, which I want to
say is maybe eight percent of this metro, but that
small of a concentration, if you were able to actually
get into that demographic and win over their vote votes
in particular, just really hammering down at a certain clan
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within that population and be able to turn out their
vote because you can one speak the language, and to
target these individuals because whatever reason that it might benefit
them that you can actually go win a mayor election.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Okay, that'stin. Before we go on, I needed to go
ahead and explain what you just said. A clan we
have now clan wars. What.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Yeah, it's quite fascinating and I've been talking about this
since I don't know, probably twenty eighteen now there have
actually been four Somali candidates that have run since that
time in the state of Minnesota as Republicans. All four cases,
all four of those candidates have requested I run their
campaigns because I actually am quite in depth with the
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small Smali community here in Minnesota, not as much it
was before in Minneapolis. There's actually another neighboring area by
Saint Cloud, minnisotes in the central part of the state.
That's where I went to college at Saint Cloud State
University and where I ultimately got my start with the
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small community. A lot of the elders when they came
over here after the Siad bar regime, which is socialism
or like communism, They like all the things that kind
of come from Russia and Hitler and all these different
They're terrible ideologies, but they brought that over here, and
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a lot of the individuals that actually ended up translating
those tons to word are from the same Cloud community
where I went to college, So I got into these
communities a little bit already. I've known a lot of
their business leaders that are more on the conservative side
of things, and we've worked in small parts to try
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to bring more of those over to our side because
they are here legally unfortunately, you know, just part of
those robots. You have to kind of come a hard
to try to take away votes from the Democrats. But yeah,
when you're talking about a Democrat primary, it just brings
it to a completely different level in which you have
to try to go get those votes. And in this case,
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Mayor Fry almost speaks better Somali than Omar Fetal, which
is kind of funny when you talk to some of
those Somaliti activists and you know it's paid off for him.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Skip. Okay, Dustin, I'm sorry, but I can't get over
this exactly. How do we end up with so many
Somalis that we have clan wars to get elected mayor
in Minneapolis. What is the history of this? I know
you're bowned up on this stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Yeah, so you'd actually have to go back to Siad Bar,
the former ruler of Somalia way back in the day.
That was in the early nineteen nineties, and yeah, the
war has kind of just kind of come over here
a Somali land, which is actually a country north of Somalia.
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This is when Siad Bar was actually basically committee in
genocide between these two countries trying to basically have a
regime up there, and a lot of people are starting
to finally click onto this. But one of Siad Barr's
main colonels in his army was actually the father of
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Ilhan Omar, So she's actually a big part of this
entire process and why, you know, kind of why socialism
has kind of come over while her dad was under
a socialist regime, and she's kind of carried those politics
over here, which is why she probably doesn't mind as
much going back because she'd be going back into socialism again.
She's actually a part of a minority clan here in Minneapolis. Granted,
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they hold most of the power in the Minneapolis area,
whether it be political acumen and having insider ways about
getting donors, political organizers, people who know how the politics
actually work in Minneapolis to get elected because the three
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main Somali individuals who are elected to political office are
all a part of that klan, the klan that holds
the power. But Mayor Fry isn't a dumb guy. He
realizes that these clan wars are occurring and they actually
are part of the minority clan, So hey, what if
I go over to these majority clans get in with
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them and actually try to viy for their vote. We
can actually outnumber and end up coming down to basically
the margin of victory. We're only talking about eight percent
of the Minneapolis community. It's not that much, but it
can play a major role if you know how to
actually get into those communities and buy for their vote.
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And he decided to go up to the majority clan
in those clan wars that have gone all the way
back to genocide in the early nineteen nineties with Somalia.
But at the end of the day, a lot of
people don't realize that the Samali community have some conservative
routes to them and in this case, they care about
family and not aborting their children. So as these new
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generations come along, they're going to reproduce, and that's a
major reality that we're facing here in Minnesota. So you
do have to buy for their vote, and especially if
you have a majority chunk of those clans from those
clan wars, you can win some elections, not just now,
but two for six eight years from now as they
become voting age.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Dustin, thank you, that was illuminating. Thank you. We have
Somali clan wars in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I need some chips.
It makes me feel better. Look, I'm not proud of
what I'm about to say, but i'm gonna say it.
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I'm a comfort eater. When I'm down or maybe stressed
out about something, I'm gonna snack. Now. It's normally a
dangerous thing when I go wandering into the pantry. But
now I have a big old box of massive chips
in there. They send me big boxes of them. Not
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different flavors, right, And normally, if I come out of
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I grab a bag of mass of chips, pop open
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there's very clearly a shift that's happening now and you're
going to see it happening in the coming days. A
shift from the Trump administration focusing on a lot of
foreign affairs, which they've been you know, Ukraine and trade
deals and things like that, to domestic They have heard
the domestic displeasure with the economy, and it seems like
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they're going to focus on that. Joining me now, Carol Roth,
two time best selling author recovering former investment banker. Okay, Carol,
the administration is going to focus domestically. Some of that
might be good, some of that might be bad. What
kind of things are they tossing out there? What is
this dividend?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
What?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Well, first of all, I've got three letters for you.
Tys told you so I knew this was going to
be happened. We talked about the choreography of focusing on affordability,
because that is the reason that President Trump was put
into office. It was the number one thing that people
were concerned about. So I give the administration props for now,
(35:12):
you know, starting to home in on this. The challenge
is that some of the ideas that are coming out
are a little nutty, so we're going to need to
work through them and hopefully twist it and change things around.
On the tariff front, we know that the tariffs are
in front of the Supreme Court right now, and I
think to try and drum up, you know, more support
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on the President's side, he is now throwing out the
idea of UH stimulus checks basically two thousand dollars tariff
freebates whatnot, although Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary, has walked
that back. They're floating ideas like fifty year mortgages to
you know, keep you indebted to the bank forever. I
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mean you might as well at this point have two
hundred dollars mortgages and just you know, keep it in
the family for a few generations. So some of these
ideas are a little wacky, but you know, we want
to be positive, we want to be optimistic, and we
want to be problem solvers. So we want to say, hey,
you know, here are the ways we can approach these
things you're talking about and make them better. On the
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tariff fronts, I think the biggest gift that Scotus could
give the President is by striking down the tariffs, but
also making them basically proactive but not reactive in terms
of you know, their non application. Refunding is going to
be a big issue, even though it's money that they
shouldn't have gotten and a lot of people will want
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that back from a purely you know, gift to the
president's standpoint saying you know, we're drawing a line on
the stand it will be a boon to the market,
it'll be a boon to the economy. And if the
President is able to let that go and refocus, then
he can start focusing on some of the different options
for affordability in lots of different categories.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Okay, you know, we'll come back to the affordability thing.
I want you to expand a little bit on how
does this help us if the Supreme Court strikes down
some tariff stuff, how does this translate into things being
more affordable for normal people.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Well, the tariffs are a tax.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
You can call it a licensing fee, you can call
it an extra fee, but ultimately it's extra money that
is paid by businesses and then ultimately consumers that's going
to the government. So in my world, that is a tax,
and having more taxes is a bad thing, which I
think most of us can agree to. So if we
can get rid of the tariffs, if we can say,
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you know, that is not in an emergency power, that
you know, it doesn't match up with emergency powers these
tariffs that he is undertaking, then I think that is
a good thing because people won't have that extra cost,
Businesses will have more certainty, the market will have more
certainty on policy, and it will allow the Trump administration,
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instead of focusing on this relentlessly, to focus in other
areas which are desperately needed. So I think that's going
to be a benefits all around.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
Now.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Certainly, even if they strike them down, he could just
you know, dig in and he could take his proposals
to Congress and try to get them to put those
into law. But if that path opens up, if the
Supreme Court offers the gift, I hope somebody says, please
take the gift.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Okay, let's focus on affordability here. And I understand that
we have decades and decades and decades of idiotic fiscal
policy that has made us It's made how's it going affordable?
Just focus on that portion of it. And so look,
if you're a populis president. You can throw out ideas
like fifty year mortgage all you want. Much as I
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hate that idea, it doesn't fix any of the foundational problems.
Do you sense the administration is at all focused on
the foundational problems that make life unaffordable for younger people?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I hope so. I think that when many of us
spoke out and said, you know, fifty year mortgages doesn't
fix the affordability issue. It's just basically monetizing it, you know.
I think that some of the people involved in the
administration picked up on other ideas that have been floated.
I've floated ideas. I think I've talked to you about
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some of them before, like making mortgages assumable and portable,
and so some folks in the administration have said that
they are considering that as well. So that gives me
at least a moment of optimism to say, Okay, this
is not the only thing that they're going to consider,
and this is the first trial balloon that they're floating.
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I think that one's sort of gone over more like
a lad balloon. But hopefully they will get involved in
some of the things that they can. There are certain
things that they won't be able to get directly involved,
you know, things like zoning issues at the local level,
but the president using his platform to shine a light
on them. I do think he can create that kind
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of pressure and then help people sort of double down
on that pressure to do what needs to be done
at the local and state level while he's doing the
things he can do at the federal level.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Carol, what do we think about this meat packing collusion?
What did he call it? Illicit collusion and price fixing?
This is something that Trump administration has spoken out about.
I understand there is a beef shortage in the country.
Anyone who's tried to buy a t bone at the
grocery store is well aware that there is a beef
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shortage of some kind in the country. What is going on?
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Yes, well, obviously I am not a rancher and I
don't even play one, and a great drama on television,
but obviously there are issues. And you know, it's interesting
how politicians, you know, even the President, tend to go
to big bad corporations and collusion and price fixing, and
if that's happening, should absolutely stop that. But where they
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never go where I think they should go is the
deregulation and helping the smaller players in the industry. I've
heard from many people, you know, whether it's related to
ranching or farming, that there are restrictions that make it
harder for them to do business, and we should be
making it as easy as possible for them to do
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business and to feed the country. And so, going back
to one of the tenants that they ran out of,
the deregulation and the focus on main street America, on
our ranchers, on our farmers. Yes, we want to get
rid of collusion with the big guys, but we want
to make it easier for the small guys to compete,
and that is something that they should be focused on highly.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Now, Carol, as we wrap this up here, the Trump administration,
at least the first time, they were pretty dagone good
about deregulation and it's something Trump does very very well.
He's big on that. Are they not can sing on
that as much this time?
Speaker 6 (42:02):
I think they got distracted. I think it should have
been the first thing that they focused on out of
the gate, as well as the making the tax code permanent.
They obviously got the latter piece of that done, but
the tear of policy and shoring some of that up,
which some part of that has actually been great. So
let me give the president props. You things like focusing
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on rare earth elements and securing our border and national security, like,
some of those things are really good and we're really
glad he did it. But I do think the focus
on tariff and some of the international trade didn't give
them as much time to focus on main street, you know,
even something like we've talked about the Corporate Transparency Act.
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They haven't even come out with the final rule yet,
so that hasn't been codified. So they've taken some steps
in that direction, but they need to do massive deregulation,
particularly as it pertains to the things that create barriers
for small businesses in this country. We want this country
to grow and to thrive. It benefits everyone, and that
starts with the backbone of the economy. So deregulation and
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helping out the little guys in a very pro free
market way makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Carol, I'm so glad you're with us and you're not
an investment banker anymore. Come back, So we have lightened
the mood. It's time for a very special happy birthday. Next,
(43:37):
it is time to lighten the mood, and to lighten
the mood today, we're going to wish a happy birthday.
A happy birthday to the most wonderful organization on the planet.
Today is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of my
beloved United States Marine Corps. I only dedicated four years
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of my life to this wonderful institution. So many others
that dedicated so much more, But I am very, very
proud to be a very teeny tiny part of the
history of an organization that has been fighting for this
country and fighting in bars for now two hundred and
fifty years. Thank you to the finest light infantry on
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the planet. I'll see them all.
The shutdown is coming to an end. Why did we
have one? Why did it end? We'll talk about that.
We're going to wish a happy birthday to the United
States Marines. All these economic proposals, all that more coming
up on our right. Okay, so the government shutdown is
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wrapping up. No, it is not wrapped up yet, but
it is wrapping up. Let me just explain before we
get into the whys of everything. The Senate's good to go,
but the House isn't actually convened right now. The long
story short, it's going to take two or three days
for the shutdown to officially end. Now, maybe this shutdown
affected your life deeply. Maybe it didn't affect your life
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at all. I know that they've been canceling fifteen hundred
flights across the country. Maybe you're in the military, TSA,
maybe it affected you. Ch answers are unless one of
those things apply to you, travel, TSA types of things,
chances are it didn't really have a huge effect on
your life. But it did affect a lot of people. Now,
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why was there ever one to begin with? Because it's
kind of odd if you're going to just wash your
hands up everything and take a thirty thousand foot view.
Why would you do this? Why would Democrats not just
vote for ACR, which they always vote for. Republicans always
vote for it, Democrats always vote for it, which sucks,
by the way, But this time, why do something different? Well,
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it's important before we get to their language on the thing,
it's important to understand this concept that we've talked about before,
over and over and over and over and over again.
I love to use doctor Frankenstein's monster as an example
because it is the perfect example for what has happened.
Democrat elites, Democrat politicians, people in the media. They understand
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that the motivation level of their base is really important
for them. That's what gets you people marching in the streets,
that's what gets people writing checks to your campaign, knocking
on doors. You need the Democrat base motivated. And to
motivate the Democrat base, you have to give them something
to rage against. Rage never really something for, but always against.
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There always has to be some big devil that you're
fighting against. And for ten years, ten years that has
been Donald Trump. Endless media stories and Donald Trump is
Donald Trump, that Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, Nazi
Hitler and Democrats across the country at every level, local level,
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national level, have been able to run against Donald Trump
to motivate their base. Nothing motivates Democrats like Donald Trump. Hey,
some guy will be running for constable vote. Vote for
me and I'll stop Trump. But works motivates a Democrat base.
But like all things, that can be a negative to
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that positive. After ten years of programming, and the Democrat
base is extremely programmable. That's why they're communists. They're herd animals.
After ten years of that, what has happened is the
average Democrat. I'm not just talking about activists or crazy ones.
The average Democrat is insane, deluded. I don't know what
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insulting word you want to put on it. I'm not
even trying to insult them. They are so brainwashed now
with ten years of Trump is Hitler propaganda. They are
so brainwashed that now, well, doctor Frankenstein, the elites created
this monster. Now the monster can't be controlled. Now it's
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not necessarily the elites calling the shots anymore. Now the
monster the Democrat base. They have demands and their demand
is you stop Trump. Why don't you stopping Trump? You
have to stop Trump? To stop Trump to stop Trump.
They have demands and you can yell at them now
to you're blue in the face if you're a Democrat,
that these demands are wrong or bad for the country
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or unrealistic. They don't want to hear that. Now ten
years of programming. They want Donald Trump stopped. And so
Democrats in Congress, in the House and Senate, they felt
enormous pressure from their base to deliver some kind of
a win. Give me a win. But it's very difficult
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to have a win in Congress, even when you have
the majority, unless you have a super majority. Even then
it can be difficult. How do you get your legislation passed.
It's hard to get the votes when you have a minority.
It's pretty much impossible. So what to do? What to do? Well,
the only leverage you have is shutting down the entire
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United States of America the government anyway, This is why
they all talked about leverage.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We need to do this while we have the leverage.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Of course, there will be you know, families that are
going to suffer, but it is one of the few
leverage times we have.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You reopen the government and we lose our leverage. There
has to be an agreement right now. That's what this
whole shutdown is about.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Frankly, this is our only moment of leverage. The idea
that you would give up all of your leverage and
then hopefully get some sort of great deal coming down
the pike is just a fool's Errand.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Why are working families the leverage the Democrats need?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You get Obamacare fixed.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It's the only lever we have.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Democrats have this one little sliver right now.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
When we've got some leverage here.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Some Republican senator have pushed a bill that would pay
government workers.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I think that just gives the president more leverage.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Leverage. What leverage did they have because they didn't have
any leverage to pass actual legislation. Well, we'll shut the
whole thing down. We'll just make it so nothing happens
at all. But it's a very dangerous game, you know what,
Playing chicken is. There are various ways you can play it.
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One of the most common ways you see it in
the movies maybe now and then, is you get in
a car, the other guy gets in a car, and
you drive right towards each other. Very stupid please don't
do this. And the idea is you want to see
who swerves first, who turns first. But the problem with
chicken is you're banking on the other side giving in
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at some point in time. If they don't, you either
have to crash or you have to turn. It's a
very very dangerous game. This chicken. Democrats decided to play
chicken with Republicans and try to hold them hostage to
get something. And by the way, they're talking about healthcare
tax credits, that's not important. What they wanted. What they
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wanted was to go to their monster and say, hey, guys,
look we got you something. We're fighting, we got you something.
That's what they want. And the leadership in the Democrat
Party they're feeling the pressure because of this monster. That's
why Chuck Schumer faked outrage today. I must vote no.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
This healthcare crisis is so severe, so urgent, so devastating
for families back home, that I cannot in good faith
support this r that that fails to address the healthcare crisis.
The American people know who is inflicting this healthcare trauma
on them, Donald Trump and the Republicans. Health Care costs
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made a major impact on the twenty twenty five election,
and they will certainly have an even greater impact on
the twenty twenty sixth election.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think Chuck Schumer his days are over and he
cannot put that. If he cannot keep his Cucketts together,
if he cannot keep hisquocketts together, he needs to go.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You can tell how passionate he is about this as
he with his reading glasses on and this is an
outrage about the healthcare and the hang on. Let me
switch to my Chuck Schumer knows that he has to
show his base that he's out ranged, he's really mad,
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and he doesn't have to do this for any other
reason than his own power. And the fact is that
Democrats and it wasn't even Schumer that Democrats crossed the
aisle and reopen the government means Chuck Schumer may very
well be in trouble. They're already calling for his head.
Anythink Chuck Schumer needs to go after tonight.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
He should have gone a week ago, a month ago,
a year ago. Yes, yes, you talk about him and
not meeting the moment right. Every time he gets in
front of the camera, the average Democratic voter out there screams,
be done with you be done, and this will only
accelerate that.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Leadership. Doctor Frankenstein can't control this monster anymore. And look,
there are so many people in the far far left
wing fringe of Democrat politics. They understand perfectly well with
the base wants, and they make it even harder for
Democrat leadership to do anything remotely reasonable. Did you hear
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Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
Study show that will mean that some fifty thousand Americans
will die every year unnecessarily. All of that was done
to give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the
one percent. As everybody knows. Just on Tuesday, we had
an election all over this country. And what the election
showed is that the American people want us to stand
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up to trump Ism, to his war against working class people,
to his authoritarianism. That is what the American people wanted.
But tonight that is not what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Bernie Sanders knows, he knows full well. The Democrat based this,
the average Democrat voter, probably the Democrat in your life,
if you have won, a family member, a co worker.
This is how they feel. There is nothing else but
stopping Trump. If you have to burn down the United
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States of America, cancel every single flight, stop pay for
the military. Even though they may be uncomfortable with the
idea of those things, that does doesn't matter at all.
The top goal has to be stopping Trump. And of course, again,
these are programmed herd animals. That's what democrats are. They
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don't know why if you ask them. But I love
doing this whenever I encounter democrats out in the wild.
I love just asking very calmly, not argumentative, probing questions
about why, oh, you got to stop Trump from what? Why?
What is it? You'll get this blind rage sometimes, these
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vague things. Oftentimes things that aren't even real, almost all
the time, things that aren't even real, not necessarily knowledgeable
at all, but programmed over and over and over and
over and over again. But that monster is so incredibly powerful. Now,
this is wonderful news for people like you and people
like me. We get to sit back and watch the carnage.
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But let's be frank, this is really bad for the country.
It's really a bad thing for the United States of
America that one of the two political parties completely sucks
and the other one is a suicide pack trying to
burn the nation down. This is an uncomfortable place to be,
but we'll get through it. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. We're going to talk
(12:18):
about this and much more with Chloe. In a moment
before we talked, Chloe, I want to talk to you
about sleeping. Yesterday was Sunday, and look Sunday was a
busy day, a lot of caffeine, and already you start
thinking the Sunday night. You start thinking about work, don't you.
Oh my aunt got a work week coming up, school,
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got all kinds of things. I need a good night's
sleep tonight. Start off on the right foot. That's what
dream powder is here for. You need a bag of
it in your house at all times, just as bad
I have the cinnamon chocolate. It's hot chocolate, but this
is a special hot chocolate. It's hot chocolate that puts
you to sleep, not with drugs. Natural things inside of
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dream powder will have you sip on a cup of
hot chocolate. Half hour later. I'm tired, you drift off
to sleep. Went a nice fat discount Shotbeam dot com
slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You'd have to go back to what the strategy was
at the beginning of the shutdown, there were two goals,
both of which I support. One was standing up to
Donald Trump. The other was getting some resolution on the
ACA premium tax credit issue. The problem was the shutdown
wasn't accomplishing either goals, and there was practically well it
was zero likelihood that it was going to in terms
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of standing up to Donald Trump. The shutdown actually gave
him more power.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Do you wish that you would have started looking for
this off for him sooner? He said that Republicans were
never going to change in their position.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I I didn't fully understand how dug in they were
again because I was so focused on the Virginia elections.
I wasn't in this discussion on the healthcare to see
how dug in they were.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, joining me now, Chloe Trapenado, host of The Chloe
Trapanado Show. Chloe, Okay, So what was this? Simply a
gamble that the low TGP would grab its ankles like
they always do and they just didn't. Is that what
it was?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think it was a sanctimonious facade. It didn't take
them any time at all. When the masks are off,
every single Democrat we know and love so dearly, that
comes on our television screens every day is now saying
the exact same thing. Our number one priority was to
stop Orange bad Man. We really didn't care that we
were making forty two million American suffer. We didn't care
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that we were hurting military families. We didn't care at
all that you were going to miss your Thanksgiving dinner
because you couldn't go fly to see your aunt. We
just needed to beat Donald Trump. How are they so
publicly admitting all of this, just mere moments after the
shutdown has ended forty days, and all they have to
claim is that they tried their best, They tried to
stop Trump, they didn't end up getting anything in return,
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and all they did was hurt the American people. I
think it's quite rude.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, rude is actually a perfect way to put that.
Cloie I talked in the open about this doctor Frankenstein situation.
At least it appears to me we have where Democrats
have programmed their herd base animals for so long to
believe that Trump is the end of all, the sum
of all fears, that now that even if it hurts
the country, even if it burns down the country, you
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have to at least appear to be fighting him, or
you're not going to stay in office.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Exactly, exactly. That is all they have. And whenever Trump
leaves office, I have no idea what their claim is
going to be. I don't know what they're going to do. Well, next,
they're going to try to say that JD. Vance is
Hitler and they're going to try to make him up
just as bad as Orange bad Man. He'll be bad
couch man. But that's all they have right now. But
I guess there is one good thing that came out
of this. Americans are paying attention to civics. We're learning
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a little bit more about our government. Every time Democrats
do stupid things like this, we learn that there is
a filibuster and there's a threshold. And just because they're
spouting off that Republicans are in control of everything and
it's all Trump's fault that you're not getting your snap benefits,
Americans did a little bit more digging. They did a
little research, and they started discovering some things about our
government that they might not have known before. That, Hey,
(16:32):
just because Republicans have a majority in the Senate, the House,
and the presidency, that doesn't mean they can just do
whatever they want. Our founding fathers made it so that
the party in power could not just do whatever they want.
They need to work with the other side of the aisle,
the Democrats, to get major bills and legislations passed through.
And unfortunately it took forty days for five more sane
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Democrats to work with Republicans and come over to the
side of common sense. And Americans are seeing that out
the people that we elect actually do need to work together,
They do need to have some sort of common sense
and some sort of morality to get things done in
this government. And so hopefully that shed a light on
who these people are, what they're actually electing them to do,
(17:16):
and then Americans might think to themselves the next time
there's a vote an election, Okay, well, let's maybe get
somebody in here, somebody else like John Fetterman. Maybe let's
return to the moderates. Let's elect more people like that
that can actually pass legislation, get things done, and not
just throw temper tantrums and lead the American people suffering
for months on end.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, part of the problem is, as you well know,
is that you don't control the Democrat Party. Neither do
I even all the normies out there. It's Democrats who
control the Democrat Party, and they don't want John Fetterman.
I mean sure, Josh Shapiro can't even entertain running for
president because he's a Jew. Chuck Schumer is already facing
calls to get not kicked out of leadership or to
get kicked out of leadership. The Demo O base is
(18:00):
not crying for moderation or reasonable or anything good for
the country. None of these calls are coming within Democrat Party.
How do we deal with that?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
How do we deal with the mom Donnie's of the world.
That's a great question, Jesse. I was reading Denise Jesus's
book this week kind of just started at the United
States of Socialism, and I think what we do is
we start to have young people my generation especially, start
to read, start to do a little bit more primary
research and read books like this that very articulately lay
(18:32):
out the history of socialism and how we got to
where we are today. And maybe that won't happen. Maybe
it's going to take the younger generation many more years
to come to common sense and realize that socialism is
not the way to go. So until them, I think
the Republicans just need to do a really good job
of painting a very clear picture of exactly who they
are and what they stand for. We need to tell
(18:54):
our kids, our students, our friends exactly what it is,
socialism is, exactly what communism is. We need to have
the facts on our side so that we can lay
out who the enemy is and how to defeat them
with words, with debate, because until then, Democrats are just
going to continue to spread this false messaging and promulgate
(19:14):
these same poisonous ideas on TikTok throughout all of the
different algorithms, that really socialism is fine, that people like
mom Donnie are normal, that radicalism is totally cool, it's hip.
I mean, there's girls on TikTok that are saying, after
Mom Donnie one democracy is hot. You know, they're throwing
out everything they can. They're going to say they will
make everything free. Socialists will make everything free. Obviously, the
(19:37):
economy is not in the best place right now, so
it's working. So I think Republicans are just going to
have to get past that messaging. When the messaging war
on different platforms like social media, we're gonna have to
do more of this new media stuff and just try
to best articulate to Americans that that's not the way
to go again. Read nineteen eighty four by George Orwell.
(19:58):
I'm telling all of my tikto fans and Instagram audiences
that we just have to be armed with verbal weaponry
to win, because that is how we're going to get
past people like Zoe Run Mom Donnie. Plus they will
see over time that Zo Run Mom Donnie is horrible
for New York, and socialists overall would be horrible in
any form of leadership because it just doesn't work here
(20:19):
in America. We are a capitalist, constitutional republic. The reason
that millions and millions of immigrants are trying to get
to America every single day is because we are a
capitalist society where the American dream can happen, where we
can prosper And I think the more we let socialism pervase,
the more that people won't want to come here. And
(20:41):
they will because they're seeing that socialism does not equal prosperity.
So I think over time the pendulum will swing back,
but it's just going to take a lot of communication,
a lot of clear messaging and prayers because Mom Donnie
will ruin New York City.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, I think prayer are most definitely the order of day.
Can how much hope should I as a cynical crust
the old guy with gray and my beard, how much
faith should I put in people realizing that communism socialism
fails when you have cities like Chicago, they'll even go
kick their mayor out and then go find a bigger
(21:20):
scumbag and install them as mayor. The lesson across the
country has not been Democrat voters learning the lesson that
Democrat policies suck. In fact, I haven't seen much of
that at all.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think you're right. I'm also cynical trying to be
positive on this lovely Monday, but it's hard in the
wake of everything that's going on. I just saw a
video of a Chicago person murdered on the side of
the street and cars were just driving past, no care
in the world. Oh dead body. That's normal there in
Chicago because the leadership is so abhorrent to look at
(21:55):
things glass half empty. Forty nine to sixty percent of
gen Z and young people see socialism quite favorably, So
it's actually probably not going to get much better before
it gets much much worse. Obviously gen Z has a
lot of learning to do before they start to change
their tune. So the youngest generation of voters, they love socialism,
(22:18):
they love communism. Why is that because they're not reading.
They're getting spread very poisonous messaging through TikTok via China
and so yep to feed into your cynicalness. I do
think it's going to get worse. But that's why people
like me exist. I'm common sensical. I'd like to think
I was raised conservative. I was raised Catholic with good parents,
(22:38):
and so I'm going to do the best job that
I can to spread to my audience. Is that communism, socialism,
it's not the way forward. We need to return to
our capitalist values. We need to love this country once again.
We need to understand why it's good to go to church,
why capitalism works, why our founders were geniuses who made
(22:59):
America the way it's supposed to be. They did not
foresee a man like mom Donnie coming into the picture
and ruining everything. So just I think explaining to young
people why we did the things, why we did things
the way that we did, and try to, I don't know,
reroute their minds to head back to that reality.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Deprogramming. If you will, Chloe, thank you, I appreciate it.
Democrats have a Jihati problem, a big one. Dustin Gregy outa,
Minnesota is going to come talk to us about it.
In a moment before we talked to Dustin, I want
to talk to you about your testosterone levels. No, no, no, no,
(23:40):
believe me. I'm not running a low TE clinic or
something like that. But there is a reason there's a
low T clinic on every corner in your town. We've
lost fifty percent of our testosterone in fifty years. The
reason you're tired all the time, the reason you're always
in a bad mood, You've been drinking estrogen. It's in
our waters. We shower in it. How do we reverse it? Though?
(24:01):
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Speaker 5 (24:52):
A son of an ankle.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Combin with action.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Maga yengo y ya.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
This election means, This election means, this is a moment
for unity where the entire Somali community can come together
and say, this is our people, this is our city.
We are united behind each other.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
What that's in? Hold on, let me check my notes
Minneapolis joining me now, Dustin Greggy, wonderful columnists with townhall
dot com. Hey Dunston, I'm just confirming that is in Minneapolis, Minnesota, right.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
That is correct, That is in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So this is where we are now. In order to
win the Democrat primary in a major American city, a
formerly wonderful city, I should note that you have to
ablah the land and go or what.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, it's quite fascinating how electoral politics have kind of
happened in this country, let alone, just in a small city.
Here in Minneapolis is a relatively small city in terms
of some of these other major populaces. But we also
just happen to have the largest concentration of Somali immigrants
(26:23):
in the entire country. I want to say, something like
ninety percent or eighty percent of all of them in
the entire United States live in a seven county metro
of Minnesota, the Minneapolis Twin Cities Saint Paul area. So yeah,
it's kind of come to that point where in order
to win, in particular in Democrat primary, you have to
(26:44):
really dig into a certain population, which I want to
say is maybe eight percent of this metro, but that
small of a concentration, if you were able to actually
get into that demographic and win over their vote votes
in particular, just really hammering down at a certain clan
(27:05):
within that population and be able to turn out their
vote because you can one speak the language, and to
target these individuals because whatever reason that it might benefit
them that you can actually go win a mayor election.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Okay, that'stin. Before we go on, I needed to go
ahead and explain what you just said. A clan we
have now clan wars. What.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Yeah, it's quite fascinating and I've been talking about this
since I don't know, probably twenty eighteen now there have
actually been four Somali candidates that have run since that
time in the state of Minnesota as Republicans. All four cases,
all four of those candidates have requested I run their
campaigns because I actually am quite in depth with the
(27:55):
small Smali community here in Minnesota, not as much it
was before in Minneapolis. There's actually another neighboring area by
Saint Cloud, minnisotes in the central part of the state.
That's where I went to college at Saint Cloud State
University and where I ultimately got my start with the
(28:15):
small community. A lot of the elders when they came
over here after the Siad bar regime, which is socialism
or like communism, They like all the things that kind
of come from Russia and Hitler and all these different
They're terrible ideologies, but they brought that over here, and
(28:37):
a lot of the individuals that actually ended up translating
those tons to word are from the same Cloud community
where I went to college, So I got into these
communities a little bit already. I've known a lot of
their business leaders that are more on the conservative side
of things, and we've worked in small parts to try
(28:57):
to bring more of those over to our side because
they are here legally unfortunately, you know, just part of
those robots. You have to kind of come a hard
to try to take away votes from the Democrats. But yeah,
when you're talking about a Democrat primary, it just brings
it to a completely different level in which you have
to try to go get those votes. And in this case,
(29:20):
Mayor Fry almost speaks better Somali than Omar Fetal, which
is kind of funny when you talk to some of
those Somaliti activists and you know it's paid off for him.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Skip. Okay, Dustin, I'm sorry, but I can't get over
this exactly. How do we end up with so many
Somalis that we have clan wars to get elected mayor
in Minneapolis. What is the history of this? I know
you're bowned up on this stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Yeah, so you'd actually have to go back to Siad Bar,
the former ruler of Somalia way back in the day.
That was in the early nineteen nineties, and yeah, the
war has kind of just kind of come over here
a Somali land, which is actually a country north of Somalia.
(30:09):
This is when Siad Bar was actually basically committee in
genocide between these two countries trying to basically have a
regime up there, and a lot of people are starting
to finally click onto this. But one of Siad Barr's
main colonels in his army was actually the father of
(30:30):
Ilhan Omar, So she's actually a big part of this
entire process and why, you know, kind of why socialism
has kind of come over while her dad was under
a socialist regime, and she's kind of carried those politics
over here, which is why she probably doesn't mind as
much going back because she'd be going back into socialism again.
She's actually a part of a minority clan here in Minneapolis. Granted,
(30:53):
they hold most of the power in the Minneapolis area,
whether it be political acumen and having insider ways about
getting donors, political organizers, people who know how the politics
actually work in Minneapolis to get elected because the three
(31:13):
main Somali individuals who are elected to political office are
all a part of that klan, the klan that holds
the power. But Mayor Fry isn't a dumb guy. He
realizes that these clan wars are occurring and they actually
are part of the minority clan, So hey, what if
I go over to these majority clans get in with
(31:34):
them and actually try to viy for their vote. We
can actually outnumber and end up coming down to basically
the margin of victory. We're only talking about eight percent
of the Minneapolis community. It's not that much, but it
can play a major role if you know how to
actually get into those communities and buy for their vote.
(31:54):
And he decided to go up to the majority clan
in those clan wars that have gone all the way
back to genocide in the early nineteen nineties with Somalia.
But at the end of the day, a lot of
people don't realize that the Samali community have some conservative
routes to them and in this case, they care about
family and not aborting their children. So as these new
(32:18):
generations come along, they're going to reproduce, and that's a
major reality that we're facing here in Minnesota. So you
do have to buy for their vote, and especially if
you have a majority chunk of those clans from those
clan wars, you can win some elections, not just now,
but two for six eight years from now as they
become voting age.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Dustin, thank you, that was illuminating. Thank you. We have
Somali clan wars in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I need some chips.
It makes me feel better. Look, I'm not proud of
what I'm about to say, but i'm gonna say it.
(33:03):
I'm a comfort eater. When I'm down or maybe stressed
out about something, I'm gonna snack. Now. It's normally a
dangerous thing when I go wandering into the pantry. But
now I have a big old box of massive chips
in there. They send me big boxes of them. Not
to brag, but they have all these all kinds of
(33:23):
different flavors, right, And normally, if I come out of
the pantry with the bag of chips, ob is gonna
be giving me the side eye. Not with mass chips.
I grab a bag of mass of chips, pop open
the fridge, grab a little thing of hot sauce, and
I just go sit down in my chair, little dab
and I munch gilt free three ingredients, no seed oil, filth,
(33:44):
none of this cancer causing garbage. You're not gonna feel
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jessetv gets you a big discount we'll be back. All right. Well,
(34:11):
there's very clearly a shift that's happening now and you're
going to see it happening in the coming days. A
shift from the Trump administration focusing on a lot of
foreign affairs, which they've been you know, Ukraine and trade
deals and things like that, to domestic They have heard
the domestic displeasure with the economy, and it seems like
(34:33):
they're going to focus on that. Joining me now, Carol Roth,
two time best selling author recovering former investment banker. Okay, Carol,
the administration is going to focus domestically. Some of that
might be good, some of that might be bad. What
kind of things are they tossing out there? What is
this dividend?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
What?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Well, first of all, I've got three letters for you.
Tys told you so I knew this was going to
be happened. We talked about the choreography of focusing on affordability,
because that is the reason that President Trump was put
into office. It was the number one thing that people
were concerned about. So I give the administration props for now,
(35:12):
you know, starting to home in on this. The challenge
is that some of the ideas that are coming out
are a little nutty, so we're going to need to
work through them and hopefully twist it and change things around.
On the tariff front, we know that the tariffs are
in front of the Supreme Court right now, and I
think to try and drum up, you know, more support
(35:34):
on the President's side, he is now throwing out the
idea of UH stimulus checks basically two thousand dollars tariff
freebates whatnot, although Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary, has walked
that back. They're floating ideas like fifty year mortgages to
you know, keep you indebted to the bank forever. I
(35:56):
mean you might as well at this point have two
hundred dollars mortgages and just you know, keep it in
the family for a few generations. So some of these
ideas are a little wacky, but you know, we want
to be positive, we want to be optimistic, and we
want to be problem solvers. So we want to say, hey,
you know, here are the ways we can approach these
things you're talking about and make them better. On the
(36:17):
tariff fronts, I think the biggest gift that Scotus could
give the President is by striking down the tariffs, but
also making them basically proactive but not reactive in terms
of you know, their non application. Refunding is going to
be a big issue, even though it's money that they
shouldn't have gotten and a lot of people will want
(36:38):
that back from a purely you know, gift to the
president's standpoint saying you know, we're drawing a line on
the stand it will be a boon to the market,
it'll be a boon to the economy. And if the
President is able to let that go and refocus, then
he can start focusing on some of the different options
for affordability in lots of different categories.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Okay, you know, we'll come back to the affordability thing.
I want you to expand a little bit on how
does this help us if the Supreme Court strikes down
some tariff stuff, how does this translate into things being
more affordable for normal people.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Well, the tariffs are a tax.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
You can call it a licensing fee, you can call
it an extra fee, but ultimately it's extra money that
is paid by businesses and then ultimately consumers that's going
to the government. So in my world, that is a tax,
and having more taxes is a bad thing, which I
think most of us can agree to. So if we
can get rid of the tariffs, if we can say,
(37:37):
you know, that is not in an emergency power, that
you know, it doesn't match up with emergency powers these
tariffs that he is undertaking, then I think that is
a good thing because people won't have that extra cost,
Businesses will have more certainty, the market will have more
certainty on policy, and it will allow the Trump administration,
(37:58):
instead of focusing on this relentlessly, to focus in other
areas which are desperately needed. So I think that's going
to be a benefits all around.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
Now.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Certainly, even if they strike them down, he could just
you know, dig in and he could take his proposals
to Congress and try to get them to put those
into law. But if that path opens up, if the
Supreme Court offers the gift, I hope somebody says, please
take the gift.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Okay, let's focus on affordability here. And I understand that
we have decades and decades and decades of idiotic fiscal
policy that has made us It's made how's it going affordable?
Just focus on that portion of it. And so look,
if you're a populis president. You can throw out ideas
like fifty year mortgage all you want. Much as I
(38:49):
hate that idea, it doesn't fix any of the foundational problems.
Do you sense the administration is at all focused on
the foundational problems that make life unaffordable for younger people?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I hope so. I think that when many of us
spoke out and said, you know, fifty year mortgages doesn't
fix the affordability issue. It's just basically monetizing it, you know.
I think that some of the people involved in the
administration picked up on other ideas that have been floated.
I've floated ideas. I think I've talked to you about
(39:23):
some of them before, like making mortgages assumable and portable,
and so some folks in the administration have said that
they are considering that as well. So that gives me
at least a moment of optimism to say, Okay, this
is not the only thing that they're going to consider,
and this is the first trial balloon that they're floating.
(39:45):
I think that one's sort of gone over more like
a lad balloon. But hopefully they will get involved in
some of the things that they can. There are certain
things that they won't be able to get directly involved,
you know, things like zoning issues at the local level,
but the president using his platform to shine a light
on them. I do think he can create that kind
(40:05):
of pressure and then help people sort of double down
on that pressure to do what needs to be done
at the local and state level while he's doing the
things he can do at the federal level.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Carol, what do we think about this meat packing collusion?
What did he call it? Illicit collusion and price fixing?
This is something that Trump administration has spoken out about.
I understand there is a beef shortage in the country.
Anyone who's tried to buy a t bone at the
grocery store is well aware that there is a beef
(40:39):
shortage of some kind in the country. What is going on?
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Yes, well, obviously I am not a rancher and I
don't even play one, and a great drama on television,
but obviously there are issues. And you know, it's interesting
how politicians, you know, even the President, tend to go
to big bad corporations and collusion and price fixing, and
if that's happening, should absolutely stop that. But where they
(41:02):
never go where I think they should go is the
deregulation and helping the smaller players in the industry. I've
heard from many people, you know, whether it's related to
ranching or farming, that there are restrictions that make it
harder for them to do business, and we should be
making it as easy as possible for them to do
(41:23):
business and to feed the country. And so, going back
to one of the tenants that they ran out of,
the deregulation and the focus on main street America, on
our ranchers, on our farmers. Yes, we want to get
rid of collusion with the big guys, but we want
to make it easier for the small guys to compete,
and that is something that they should be focused on highly.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Now, Carol, as we wrap this up here, the Trump administration,
at least the first time, they were pretty dagone good
about deregulation and it's something Trump does very very well.
He's big on that. Are they not can sing on
that as much this time?
Speaker 6 (42:02):
I think they got distracted. I think it should have
been the first thing that they focused on out of
the gate, as well as the making the tax code permanent.
They obviously got the latter piece of that done, but
the tear of policy and shoring some of that up,
which some part of that has actually been great. So
let me give the president props. You things like focusing
(42:22):
on rare earth elements and securing our border and national security, like,
some of those things are really good and we're really
glad he did it. But I do think the focus
on tariff and some of the international trade didn't give
them as much time to focus on main street, you know,
even something like we've talked about the Corporate Transparency Act.
(42:43):
They haven't even come out with the final rule yet,
so that hasn't been codified. So they've taken some steps
in that direction, but they need to do massive deregulation,
particularly as it pertains to the things that create barriers
for small businesses in this country. We want this country
to grow and to thrive. It benefits everyone, and that
starts with the backbone of the economy. So deregulation and
(43:06):
helping out the little guys in a very pro free
market way makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Carol, I'm so glad you're with us and you're not
an investment banker anymore. Come back, So we have lightened
the mood. It's time for a very special happy birthday. Next,
(43:37):
it is time to lighten the mood, and to lighten
the mood today, we're going to wish a happy birthday.
A happy birthday to the most wonderful organization on the planet.
Today is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of my
beloved United States Marine Corps. I only dedicated four years
(43:59):
of my life to this wonderful institution. So many others
that dedicated so much more, But I am very, very
proud to be a very teeny tiny part of the
history of an organization that has been fighting for this
country and fighting in bars for now two hundred and
fifty years. Thank you to the finest light infantry on
(44:20):
the planet. I'll see them all.
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