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I want to welcome into the programmy next guest of the morning. It's
a breaking news Friday in which Barackand Michelle Obama are supposedly going to be
well, they already have it's outon the Twitter feeds. Now they are
going to be endorsing and have endorsedKamala Harris for the presidency of the United
States as a Democrat nominee. Andon the hotline, I have mister Joel
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Gilbert who has been pretty prominent inhis prognostication that it may be Michelle Obama
that the Democrats ultimately leaned on.Let me bring in Joel Gilbert into the
program. Joel, Welcome back tothe show. Sir, how are you
okay? Good to be here.Thank you. Let's dive in. You
had been prognosticating that Michelle Obama wouldbe the Democrats candidate of choice. What
say you about today's endorsement and whichevidently Kamala and Michelle and Barack all got
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on the phone and had happy timetogether. Well, we've had a lot
of developments happened very quickly in thelast seven eight days. I did predict
that Joe Biden would not be thenominee I correctly showed you why Michelle was
preparing to be the nominee, withall her activities, with her autobiographies,
her being the keynote speaker at theDemocrat Convention, her voter registration organization.
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What appears to have happened is thatafter Barack helped to push Biden aside,
it looks like the Bidens and theClintons got together to prevent Michelle from being
the nominee. I think the Obama'shad an idea that they would coroinate Michelle
in her hometown DNC, Chicago,but that idea proved to be too arrogant
for an open convention. Looks likethe Biden immediately anointed Kamala Harris, followed
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by the Clintons joining in. Bidenwas angry that Biden moved him, that
Obama moved him aside. The Clintonsare still angry, probably at Obama from
two thousand and eight for challenging Hillaryand not waiting his turn preventing her from
being president. So they anointed Kamala, and you saw that Obama withheld his
endorsement. He demanded an open convention. Black Lives Matter demanded an open convention.
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They're very connected to Obama, andit looks like here we are about
a week later, almost actually endof the week, Obama's been forced to
join the party. Here, SoMichelle and Barack issued a cringe worthy video
phone call with Kamala, and they'redoing all the same old silly things.
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When Michelle was talking to Kamala onthe phone call, she dropped her G
when she was talking. She said, you know, we're going to endorse
you, And that's how she triesto talk to manipulate black and minority voters
by using urban slang. So Michellesaid the words saying instead of saying with
a G like she talks normally,and then Kamala in response also dropped her
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g's. She says, yeah,we're getting and we're going to be in.
So that's what they do to manipulateminority voters's to try to say,
hey, I'm one of you folks. So it's very childish, but that's
what's happened I think in this weekis the Obama's got out in by the
Clintons and Biden's for their original planto get Michelle into the Oval office.
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Joel Gilbert, my guess he wrotea book called Michelle Obama twenty twenty four,
Her Real life Story and Plan forPower. It's fascinating that seemingly I
guess they could have just announced thatMichelle wanted to put her name in,
or they probably had some surrogates thatcould have floated the name of Michelle Obama
right after the right after the resignationor stepping down of Joe Biden. Did
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Joe Biden block that with that tweetthat went out immediately kind of an afterthought
thirty minutes after the hostage letter cameout, I'm not going to seek the
nomination anymore. By the way Iendorsed Kamala. Was that what stopped them
from having some momentum. Maybe NancyPelosi could have floated the name of Barack
Obama. Well, it's been inthe works for a long time. You
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remember last year when Biden released athree minute video saying he was running again.
Susan Rice quit the next day.Susan Rice was on Team Obama working
in the White House, and thattold me that they didn't completely control Biden.
He wasn't that controllable. So theyhatched this plan Obama did with others
to force Biden to say he wasn'tgoing to run, and Jill and Joe
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Biden didn't like that very much.So yeah, it looks like he immediately
planned with the Clintons to anoint Kamalaand freeze out Obama if they could,
and by doing so, they gota lot of people to jump on board.
The Obamas took this very arrogant ideathat Michelle will just pretend not to
be interested, even though she wasdoing everything she could to prepare to become
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the nominee, doing everything politically,that they would just kind of lay back
and have this open convention and peoplewould scream Obama, Obama, and Michelle
would say, oh, you know, I hate politics, but I want
to help the country and bring usback together. That was the Obama's plan.
I think it proved to be alittle too arrogant, and the Clintons
and Obamas were able to force themout. So it's kind of you think
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of these mafia families that have aturf war, and I think that's what
happened behind the scenes, and Kamalaemerged ahead of Michelle. Let me ask
you if Joel Gilbert as my guestagain. His book is called Michelle Obama
twenty twenty four of her real lifestory and Plan for Power. Ted Cruz
has been on his podcast and hehad been predicting that it was going to
be at the convention, that maybethere'd be a flour or five breakout and
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maybe Michelle Obama would step in there. Do you think the Obamas, though
seemingly wanted Joe Biden out prior tothe convention, was that a tactical error
by the Obamas to kind of gethim out before the convention. Would Michelle
have had a better chance had hestayed in and just suddenly the grassroots in
Chicago stood up against him. Ithink it would have been too late to
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force out Biden, you know,the day before the convention he might not
have agreed. It would have beentoo late. So the timing was perfect.
I mean, they think they setup Biden with a June debate with
Trump. They hung him out todry, intentionally knowing he'd fall on his
face in doing so. They usedDonald Trump to achieve their goal. They're
pretty ruthless people, So the timingwas okay. It's just that the Obamas
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are a little too arrogant, thinkingthat they could just control everything and everybody
and no one would try to usurpthem, and then Michelle would come into
the convention and be the obvious choice, the only person who was viable,
the only person who was pulling aheadof Trump, the only one who's universally
loved and recognized. So the Clintonand Biden crime families made their move quickly
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to force the Obamas back to thesideline, and they did it successfully again
the voice of Joel Gilbert Joe,let me ask you, so, you
say the timing of the aster ofJoe Biden was correct? And we do
know that through George Clooney and NancyPelosi and Chuck Schumer that the Obamas were
kind of behind the scenes of winkand a nod. Yeah, we got
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to get rid of the guy.Where did the I guess the tail go
wrong? Did they not let themedia dode don't jump on the Kamala wagon.
Did they not pull Nancy Pelosi andsay don't jump on the Kamala wagon.
Everybody just immediately jumped on Kamala Harris'swagon. Where did the Obamas go
wrong? Did they not pull someallies in and say, hey, hush,
hush hush on the endorsement of Kamala. Let's see how this plays out.
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Well, it's just years of behindthe scenes maneuvering between these families Pelosi,
Biden's, Clinton's. They've been atit for years, at each other's
throats, trying to outmaneuver each otherin different situations. So it's something that's
been brewing for a very long time. Obama thought he had the upper hand,
he thought he was in control ofeverything. He would organize everybody to
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get rid of Biden, and thenthey would sit still and wait for the
convention. It'd be open and Michellecould be the nominee. And they decided,
the Clinton and Biden crime families decidedto outmaneuver them in a like,
I said, a mafia turf war. They said, well, let's just
you know, we're not going tolet Baraka force us out of office,
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and they fought back Clinton same thing. Barack Obama was supposed to wait his
turn. He wasn't supposed to runin two thousand and eight and prevent Hillary
from being coronated as president running upagainst John McCain. So that was some
old animosities that I think came outwhen the Clintons and Biden's joined together to
keep the Obamas on the sideline.I don't think they care about Commonlin necessarily.
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She's a worse candidate than Biden.She's got a terrible record, she
has no support anywhere, she doesn'tspeak well, she's got a terrible record
as vice president. She tried torun for president before and failed miserably,
didn't even make it to the firstprimary. So I think it's more about
these behind the scenes turf wars betweenthese Democrat families that had been around for
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so long. I wondered if somethingwas happening behind the scenes that was not
being spoken of. Whenever the syringderletter came from Joe Biden, there was
no photographer for there, there wasno family meeting. It just kind of
mysteriously got tweeted out last Sunday morning, which was just a very interesting and
creepy way to announce that you wereno longer seeking your party's nomination, especially
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when you were holed up supposedly veryvery sick. You just wondered who wrote
the letter, who signed the letter, And the letter goes out on Twitter,
and then just about the time themedia says, hey, there's no
endorsement of Kamala there's a random tweetI endorse Kamala. I kind of wondered
if it was the Obamas and thefolks that gave him the letter to sign,
or Jill put this in front ofhim, this is what he signs,
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or we're gonna do that twenty fifthAmendment thing, let's get him out.
And he wasn't supposed to endorse Kamalaand he went rogue onim about thirty
minutes later. Any thoughts to thattheory, Yeah, look at very much.
That's very much the appearance. There'sso much behind the scenes. But
this is what I can interpret,and I think that's a good analysis.
The official letter was written for him, he signed it, and it was
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probably Jill Biden that ordered up thatendorsement of Kamala as her way of getting
back at Obama for not allowing Bidento run again. And that's the turf
war that I think went down andthe Obama's lost it. Yeah, well
it will be obviously, Michelle Obama'snot that old. If Kamala loses.
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Do you think Michelle Obama still gother eye on the prize in four years?
Perhaps? Well, Look, wedon't know what's going to play out.
Things are changing every twenty four hours. They moved Joe Biden aside under
the idea that he's doing poorly inthe polls and you can't win. The
polls are terrible. Kamala will dono better in the polls. She's a
terrible politician, she's a terrible speaker. Nobody supports her. So you can
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make an argument in two weeks fromnow, she could be doing terrible in
the polls and we could start hearinga demand for an open convention. So
it's not really over until it's over. It really is not. So we
got to see what's going to happen. And yes, Michelle could still be
the nominee depending what happens, andshe'll still be around for years to come.
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Joel Gilbert, always a pleasure.I always enjoy your work. If
folks want to copy of the book, it's published on post Till Press.
It's called Michelle Obama twenty twenty fourand it really kind of tells the life
in times of Michelle Obama, herreal life story and plan to power.
If folks want to copy the bookanywhere they can. You've also written to
have a documentary called Michelle Obama twentytwenty four to get the book, to
watch the documentary, and to followyou. What's the best way to do
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so, Yeah, start at MichelleObama two four dot com. Sell Obama
two four dot com. That'll linkyou up to Salemnow dot com to watch
the film livestream. Get the DVDAmazon dot com for Prime Video for the
movie as well as the DVD inthe book version. Joel Gilbert always a
pleasure, Michelle Obama two four andthat links to all things that we're talking
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about here. Appreciate you coming onthe show. Thank you very much,
and we will keep an eye onwhat's happening over the next couple of weeks
because he's right, it's changing fastand about the time you think that we
have settled stuff, but it's notsettled. So Gilbert, thanks for your
time. Website Michelle Obama to