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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This out of the program brought to you by Dan camplss.
(00:02):
Dan Camplis Law, a serious firm for serious cases. Good morning,
my friends. Jimmy Lakey here all across really everywhere the world.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
On the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Just looked for my name or the six hundred k
cool icon, you'll find us six hundred k cool.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning Colorado as well.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Nice to have you here, Jimmy Lakey, News Talk, six
hundred k cool. All right, let me bring into the conversation,
if I may, I want to bring in Denesh de Susa.
I've been on the program with us many times before
and has got a new book called Vindicating Trump. He's
on the hotline. Denesta Sussa, Sir, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Nice to have you, hey, it's a pleasure. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, let's dive in here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're told that if we've like Donald Trump, next week
he's a way. They've gone back to the fascist. He's Hitler.
It was about joy and hallelujah, Kamalis a nominee, but
they seem to have gone back to this.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
He wants to be a dictator. He's a fascist. He's Hitler.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Talk about this thing they've for eight ten years now
they've said this about Donald Trump, why he shouldn't be elected.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But we didn't see any that his first term of obice, did.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We, of course not. You remember that there were some
crowds that were, you know, lock her up, lock her up,
in reference to Hillary Clinton. But Trump didn't even take
the first step to do that, even though there was
probably a lot of good reasons to have Hillary investigated. Now,
if you look at the defining features of dictatorial societies,
(01:33):
things like mass surveillance, they do systematic censorship, they have
political prisoners, they target the leader of the opposition party,
you'll see that the threat of dictatorship or tyranny is real.
But it's not coming from Trump. It's coming from the
left and from the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So this thing that they keep saying, which I think
in dangerous, is life. We've had two assassination attempts so far.
He is threat to democracy. We were told they needed
to cool down the rhetoric after these assassination attempts, but
the last week or so we're back to threat to democracy.
Even Joe Biden is back on the threat to democracy.
Talk about the danger that this type of rhetoric plays well.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
When you have a democratic election, it makes no sense
to call one of the people participating in it a
threat to democracy. I mean, if Trump was a dictator,
he was the worst dictator in the history of the world,
because what did dictators do. They control the police agencies
(02:36):
of the government. Trump didn't do that. They control the military.
You had General Milly plotting against Trump. Dictators never lose elections,
and if they do, they never leave office. Trump contested
the twenty twenty election, but then he exited the stage,
so he's shown none of the characteristics of a dictator.
(02:57):
I think the reason that they make this accusation against
him is he does have a larger than life dimension.
He does have a certain type of unique power, and
so from the point of view of the left, he
is the only one that poses a threat to them,
not to the country, not a democracy, but to the
(03:18):
schemes of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The voice of Denesta Susa. His latest book is called
Vindicating Trump. I'll tell you how to get a copy
of that at Amazon all the fine places, and to
give you his website as well. Denesta Susa, I guessed
you talked about the personality of Donald Trump throughout history
have we ever found. I mean, Reagan was obviously a
great communicator, and people kind of say he was a
(03:42):
great president. But I can't think of anybody that I've
studied that has this type of this personality, this draw,
this ability to go to New York City, a deep
blue area and have twenty thousand people in the building
and another seventy five to one hundred thousand people standing
in the streets watching him in Times Square? Is there
anything that we have to compare him to in American history?
(04:03):
Any president?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I think the closest that I can think of would
be would be Lincoln. And I say that because Lincoln
too inspired intensity of both affection as well as opposition.
Isn't it interesting that when John Wilkes Booth put a
bullet in Lincoln, he jumped onto the stage of the
Ford Theater and he shouted a phrase in Latin which
(04:27):
basically says, this is the way that it goes with tyrants.
So the same accusation made that's made now against Trump
was made also against against Lincoln. The country is in
a very different place than it was under Reagan. I
think people feel that the American dream itself upward, mobility,
(04:48):
the chance of making a better life, the idea that
our children will live better than we do. All of
this is at stake, and so there is a there's
a kind of attack into a guy like Trump. Also
partly because Trump doesn't really have to do this. I mean,
if you think about it, if you and I were billionaires,
(05:08):
if we had mar lago, if we had a few
years left to live, we have grandchildren, and we have
that choice on the one hand to live that kind
of wonderful private life or face assassination attempts and deal
with ninety one criminal charges and face the kind of
character assassination that Trump gets every day. I mean, it
takes a very strange man to say, you know what,
(05:30):
I think, I'm going to go with option two.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah. Again, the voice of the dest asusais late. This
book is called Vindicating Trump. Pick up a copy of it.
D Nasho. Donald Trump gets called all this. They said
that this rally of Madison Square Garden was reminiscent of
the nineteen thirties of a pro Nazi rally that happened.
I mean, some of the comparisons are first of all, fascinating,
a bizarre, but there's a ramification.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
There's a consequence for this.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Trump's not a guy who's getting five to ten percent
in some distant third part. He's a guy that's fifty
percent of Americans like him. So that's problematic because when
you say Trump is all these things, you're basically saying
all of the half of America that supports him must
be complicit in those kind of that kind of ideology.
(06:17):
How do we recover from that those kind of accusations
those of us support Trump. How do you recover from
that type of accusation as a nation?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I think the first thing to realize is that the
people who invented the accusation don't believe it themselves. This
is the key. I don't know if you saw the
Al Smith dinner at which Trump spoke, but right next
to Trump was Senator Chuck Schumer, one of the people
who has been trafficking in the type of Nazi rhetoric right,
(06:45):
and yet even though Trump had one or two barbs
directed at Chuck Schumer, you would see private moments in
which the two of them were chatting normally. There's also
a very interesting video and social media. It's actually a
photograph of the Clintons, Hillary and Bill Clinton at Trump's wedding.
They're chatting very amiably. There's no question that you know,
(07:07):
they don't think that Trump is Hitler. They know he's not.
They use these poisonous accusations, and I don't disagree that
there are ordinary Americans out there who get this propaganda
day in and day out, who do believe it. If
Trump wins, they will be shaking and palpitating because they
will think that Hitler is back. But the people who
(07:27):
have devised the accusation know it's false and are knowingly
disseminating it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, it's fascinating that after the assassination attempted, Joe Biden
called Trump twice. If you watch the Al Smith dinner,
there was a handshake and a conversation and pats on
the back between Donald Trump and Chuck Schumer. But again,
the folks downstream, they tend to believe the fact that
what these guys say, but what they say is not
what the people that say it actually believe. Danasha Susie,
(07:54):
your book is called Vindicating Trump. It's out there available
for people to pick up. And also, I believe this
is going to become another film.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, there's a film that is available now in streaming
and DVD, and the website for the film is Vindicating
Trump dot com. The book, of course, is available at
all the usual places Amazon, Barnes, Noble, and so on.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Dinesta Susa is a pleasure, my friend, God bless it.
Thanks for hopping on the program. It's been a while.
I appreciate you coming on. Dinesta Susa. Vindicating Trump film.
Just google it you can find it. The book is
available also wherever great books are sold. Vindicating Trump, Denesta Susa.
If you've ever seen a Denesta Susa film, you owe
it to yourself to see it. Anytime he's ever had
(08:36):
one of the theaters. I've always enjoyed going to see it.
They're always well done. They're always laden with facts and
information that you won't necessarily always find readily available at
your fingertips. Out there again, Dinestis SUSA does great work
and the latest book is called Vindicating Trump, and it's
also a major picture out there as well. Look up denessha.
(08:57):
Make sure just check out his Twitter sign, his x feed.
I made sure followed that, and I couldn't believe I didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I didn't. I guess I wasn't. I don't know. Maybe
he dumped me, but I'm back. I'm back following.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Denesta Susa on the X Machine, the Twitter, by the way,
you want to follow me there, it's j I M
M Y, l A k e Y, Jimmy Lakey the Twitter,
Jimmy Lakey on the Truth social and it's Facebook dot
com slash Jimmy Lakey pay page.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Everybody stand by. You can hear me. Laky six case
love on the streets Away
This out of the program brought to you by Dan camplss.
(00:02):
Dan Camplis Law, a serious firm for serious cases. Good morning,
my friends. Jimmy Lakey here all across really everywhere the world.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
On the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Just looked for my name or the six hundred k
cool icon, you'll find us six hundred k cool.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning Colorado as well.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Nice to have you here, Jimmy Lakey, News Talk, six
hundred k cool. All right, let me bring into the conversation,
if I may, I want to bring in Denesh de Susa.
I've been on the program with us many times before
and has got a new book called Vindicating Trump. He's
on the hotline. Denesta Sussa, Sir, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Nice to have you, hey, it's a pleasure. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, let's dive in here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're told that if we've like Donald Trump, next week
he's a way. They've gone back to the fascist. He's Hitler.
It was about joy and hallelujah, Kamalis a nominee, but
they seem to have gone back to this.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
He wants to be a dictator. He's a fascist. He's Hitler.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Talk about this thing they've for eight ten years now
they've said this about Donald Trump, why he shouldn't be elected.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But we didn't see any that his first term of obice, did.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We, of course not. You remember that there were some
crowds that were, you know, lock her up, lock her up,
in reference to Hillary Clinton. But Trump didn't even take
the first step to do that, even though there was
probably a lot of good reasons to have Hillary investigated. Now,
if you look at the defining features of dictatorial societies,
(01:33):
things like mass surveillance, they do systematic censorship, they have
political prisoners, they target the leader of the opposition party,
you'll see that the threat of dictatorship or tyranny is real.
But it's not coming from Trump. It's coming from the
left and from the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So this thing that they keep saying, which I think
in dangerous, is life. We've had two assassination attempts so far.
He is threat to democracy. We were told they needed
to cool down the rhetoric after these assassination attempts, but
the last week or so we're back to threat to democracy.
Even Joe Biden is back on the threat to democracy.
Talk about the danger that this type of rhetoric plays well.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
When you have a democratic election, it makes no sense
to call one of the people participating in it a
threat to democracy. I mean, if Trump was a dictator,
he was the worst dictator in the history of the world,
because what did dictators do. They control the police agencies
(02:36):
of the government. Trump didn't do that. They control the military.
You had General Milly plotting against Trump. Dictators never lose elections,
and if they do, they never leave office. Trump contested
the twenty twenty election, but then he exited the stage,
so he's shown none of the characteristics of a dictator.
(02:57):
I think the reason that they make this accusation against
him is he does have a larger than life dimension.
He does have a certain type of unique power, and
so from the point of view of the left, he
is the only one that poses a threat to them,
not to the country, not a democracy, but to the
(03:18):
schemes of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The voice of Denesta Susa. His latest book is called
Vindicating Trump. I'll tell you how to get a copy
of that at Amazon all the fine places, and to
give you his website as well. Denesta Susa, I guessed
you talked about the personality of Donald Trump throughout history
have we ever found. I mean, Reagan was obviously a
great communicator, and people kind of say he was a
(03:42):
great president. But I can't think of anybody that I've
studied that has this type of this personality, this draw,
this ability to go to New York City, a deep
blue area and have twenty thousand people in the building
and another seventy five to one hundred thousand people standing
in the streets watching him in Times Square? Is there
anything that we have to compare him to in American history?
(04:03):
Any president?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I think the closest that I can think of would
be would be Lincoln. And I say that because Lincoln
too inspired intensity of both affection as well as opposition.
Isn't it interesting that when John Wilkes Booth put a
bullet in Lincoln, he jumped onto the stage of the
Ford Theater and he shouted a phrase in Latin which
(04:27):
basically says, this is the way that it goes with tyrants.
So the same accusation made that's made now against Trump
was made also against against Lincoln. The country is in
a very different place than it was under Reagan. I
think people feel that the American dream itself upward, mobility,
(04:48):
the chance of making a better life, the idea that
our children will live better than we do. All of
this is at stake, and so there is a there's
a kind of attack into a guy like Trump. Also
partly because Trump doesn't really have to do this. I mean,
if you think about it, if you and I were billionaires,
(05:08):
if we had mar lago, if we had a few
years left to live, we have grandchildren, and we have
that choice on the one hand to live that kind
of wonderful private life or face assassination attempts and deal
with ninety one criminal charges and face the kind of
character assassination that Trump gets every day. I mean, it
takes a very strange man to say, you know what,
(05:30):
I think, I'm going to go with option two.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah. Again, the voice of the dest asusais late. This
book is called Vindicating Trump. Pick up a copy of it.
D Nasho. Donald Trump gets called all this. They said
that this rally of Madison Square Garden was reminiscent of
the nineteen thirties of a pro Nazi rally that happened.
I mean, some of the comparisons are first of all, fascinating,
a bizarre, but there's a ramification.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
There's a consequence for this.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Trump's not a guy who's getting five to ten percent
in some distant third part. He's a guy that's fifty
percent of Americans like him. So that's problematic because when
you say Trump is all these things, you're basically saying
all of the half of America that supports him must
be complicit in those kind of that kind of ideology.
(06:17):
How do we recover from that those kind of accusations
those of us support Trump. How do you recover from
that type of accusation as a nation?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I think the first thing to realize is that the
people who invented the accusation don't believe it themselves. This
is the key. I don't know if you saw the
Al Smith dinner at which Trump spoke, but right next
to Trump was Senator Chuck Schumer, one of the people
who has been trafficking in the type of Nazi rhetoric right,
(06:45):
and yet even though Trump had one or two barbs
directed at Chuck Schumer, you would see private moments in
which the two of them were chatting normally. There's also
a very interesting video and social media. It's actually a
photograph of the Clintons, Hillary and Bill Clinton at Trump's wedding.
They're chatting very amiably. There's no question that you know,
(07:07):
they don't think that Trump is Hitler. They know he's not.
They use these poisonous accusations, and I don't disagree that
there are ordinary Americans out there who get this propaganda
day in and day out, who do believe it. If
Trump wins, they will be shaking and palpitating because they
will think that Hitler is back. But the people who
(07:27):
have devised the accusation know it's false and are knowingly
disseminating it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, it's fascinating that after the assassination attempted, Joe Biden
called Trump twice. If you watch the Al Smith dinner,
there was a handshake and a conversation and pats on
the back between Donald Trump and Chuck Schumer. But again,
the folks downstream, they tend to believe the fact that
what these guys say, but what they say is not
what the people that say it actually believe. Danasha Susie,
(07:54):
your book is called Vindicating Trump. It's out there available
for people to pick up. And also, I believe this
is going to become another film.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, there's a film that is available now in streaming
and DVD, and the website for the film is Vindicating
Trump dot com. The book, of course, is available at
all the usual places Amazon, Barnes, Noble, and so on.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Dinesta Susa is a pleasure, my friend, God bless it.
Thanks for hopping on the program. It's been a while.
I appreciate you coming on. Dinesta Susa. Vindicating Trump film.
Just google it you can find it. The book is
available also wherever great books are sold. Vindicating Trump, Denesta Susa.
If you've ever seen a Denesta Susa film, you owe
it to yourself to see it. Anytime he's ever had
(08:36):
one of the theaters. I've always enjoyed going to see it.
They're always well done. They're always laden with facts and
information that you won't necessarily always find readily available at
your fingertips. Out there again, Dinestis SUSA does great work
and the latest book is called Vindicating Trump, and it's
also a major picture out there as well. Look up denessha.
(08:57):
Make sure just check out his Twitter sign, his x feed.
I made sure followed that, and I couldn't believe I didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I didn't. I guess I wasn't. I don't know. Maybe
he dumped me, but I'm back. I'm back following.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Denesta Susa on the X Machine, the Twitter, by the way,
you want to follow me there, it's j I M
M Y, l A k e Y, Jimmy Lakey the Twitter,
Jimmy Lakey on the Truth social and it's Facebook dot
com slash Jimmy Lakey pay page.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Everybody stand by. You can hear me. Laky six case
love on the streets Away
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