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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. CNN headline Trump
launches major shakeup at Justice Department as the fires officials
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orders probe of January sixth prosecutors. So major move a
foot there, And yeah, I really think it would benefit
the entire nation just to have a full public reporting
of everything that unfolded there, because I don't think any
reasonable person doubts that those prosecutions of Trump were politically motivated,
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and anybody can see what a direct threat that is
to the foundation of the country. So it does look
like he intends to get to the bottom of it.
So I think America will very much benefit from that.
Glad you're here. So much to talk about this afternoon. Obviously,
water cooler today as it should be is the ice.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Raids over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
According to reporting, forty to fifty TDA gang members apprehended
by ice. Great news, right, I mean, and it does
just make you sit back. It's not even a good
talk topic, right, because everybody's going to agree that's the
right thing to do. But some of the people who
are leading the charge now to agree it's the right
thing to do had been in a position to help
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get it done for years and had not done it.
I mean Jared Polis. Now, Ryan, you would think that
he works at Knights as an enforcer for Tom Homan,
you know, and that he wanders the country apprehending illegals.
You know, when Jared Poulis was front and center signing
all of these bills that had the effect of, in
my opinion and the opinion of I think, any reasonable person,
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making Colorado a sanctuary state for people in the country illegally.
And now he's the guy that are, oh, no sanctuary state,
not at all, deport everybody who's committed another crime here
kind of stuff. And the fun thing in watching all
of that is he really thinks people are going to
believe him. Marlin doesn't believe him. That there's normally we say, well,
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there's nobody outside of their own household who believes them.
Nobody in his old household believes him. But again, because
he lives in this money bubble, and he lives in
this media bubble where he's been able to intimidate a
lot of media. You say anything bad about me, you'll
lose access. You know, he really thinks people out there.
It's kind of an emperor. Has no close kind of
deal with Polus. Here's some reporting on that out of
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Colorado Springs, and that will lead us into jd Vance,
who really had a remarkable appearance over the weekend on
national television.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think, clearly.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Cementing himself as the odds on favorite to succeed President
Trump and become president in twenty eight he did say
one thing I strongly disagree with, while he said many
things I agree with, But in the process of doing it,
he clearly, just as he was in the debate, one
of the smartest, most articulate, tough thing in all the
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positive sense actors on the national stage. Let's start with
his care Do thirteen story out of Colorado Springs as
Polish tries to redefine himself on immigration and kind of
change history.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
The disagreement seems to be a matter of interpretation of law.
Sheriffs and Alpaso County and Teller County saying state law
has hampered their ability to communicate with Ice and cooperate
in many ways. So we ask Governor Jared Polus about
these claims today. Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
This narrative is false that Colorado is any way, shape
or form of sanctuary state.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
We are not.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Colorado is not a sanctuary state.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Wait a second, he's the guy who signed the bills.
He's the guy who signed the bills making it tougher,
making it tougher on local law enforcement, making it tougher
on ICE to deport people.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And these are people in police custody.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So Polis went out of his way to make it
tougher on local law enforce and ICE to get rid
of people who were already committing other crimes. Now, obviously
that's going to encourage people coming here illegally, and even worse,
encourage people coming here illegally who have committed other crimes
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to come to Colorado because where they get what do
they get there? They get protection? What's protection another word
for sanctuary. I mean, Polish really does think everybody who
doesn't have a billion bucks in the bank is stupid?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I mean it's and then who really.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Is according to the governor, but some lawmakers disagree, the.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Fact of the matter is these sanctuary state laws were
signed into law by the governor.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Republican representatives Jeff Crank, Lauren Bobert, and Gabe Evans penned
this letter to the governor last week, asking the governor
to repeal laws that Taylor County Sheriff Jason Michel says
hamper his ability to work with Ice.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
This policy is allowing people who are rapists and killers
to be let out to walk on our streets instead
of being deported back to the country that they're from.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Today, Sheriff Mike Sel partnered with local lawmakers to present
a new bill that would repeal those laws.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Without those partnerships, this is why we have cartels in Colorado,
without that partnership. This is why you're seeing horizon fentanyl
car thefts across the state police.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
How's a different take on that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's important to recognize is that your local police or
your local sheriff's department, they're not arms of the federal government.
We don't want them being commandeered.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
To total garbage.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
And again, the police is so deceptive in so many
different ways, at so many different levels. So this goes
into the he thinks your stupid category, and he thinks
the sheriffs are stupid, So okay, now Polus signs these bills,
it makes it a lot harder on sheriffs and other
law enforcement to work with ICE to get rid of
people in the country legally you have committed other crimes.
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But then Polis says, oh, no, no, no, we only
did that because we don't want them to be arms
of the federal government. When you stop and think about it,
it doesn't even make any sense. It's kind of a
word sell thing. It doesn't even make any sense. How
is it turning our law enforcement into arms of the
federal government. If our law enforcement is permitted to cooperate
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with the federal government, use the federal government to our
advantage when it benefits the people of Colorado, that would
be like saying, okay, see Dot, and none of our
local communities can work with the federal government on road
construction or accept any federal funding, because then, no, then
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we're turning Sea Dot into an arm of the federal government.
See it's that ludicrous. But he's not a stupid man.
He just thinks you're stupid. And the joke's really on him, right.
I mean, he's been able to buy his way into
all these offices in Colorado, you know, and he's starting
to run out of those offices.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Look and see what happens when he tries to go national.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think you've already SAI, right, So anybody doubt he
tried to go national in this last race. It never
even got into serious discussion. I mean, he was able
to get his name mentioned here there, but never even
got into say, serious discussion for Kamala Harris's VP or
anything like that. Now, all of this is just insulting
to your intelligence. The fun thing is again the joke's
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on him. Nobody's going to buy it. He's going to
get blamed.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The people of.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Colorado do blame him. They know the truth that they know.
He's made it easier for criminal illegals to come to Colorado,
stay in Colorado, continue to operate in Colorado even after
they've been arrested in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Instead of going after crime enforcing federal immigration statutes.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
In other words, police wants police departments and sheriffs to
get rid of crime in the state, not go after
illegal immigrants, since that's ICE's job.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It's wait a second, we're talking about illegal immigrants who've
committed other crimes. That's who ends up in these law
enforcement jails. That that's the big concern is illegal immigrants
who've committed other crimes. How else, by the way, how
did they end up in jail, How they end up
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in jail, How they end up in the custody of
law enforcement that now wants to work with ICE to
make sure they don't victimize other Colorados.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Not the responsibility of the governor to try and handcuff
law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The thing lawmakers and sheriffs can agree on today, the
goal is to make Colorado safer.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We are are excited by any federal help that can
make Colorado safer.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Anybody who thinks Jared Polis has had making Colorado safer
a priority just is not paying attention. And it goes
back to my saying, right, and I think we've copyrighted this,
maybe trademark and maybe both, which is stick your head
in the sand, you get your you know what kicked.
And so so, anybody, what is Jared Polus ever done
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that suggests to you making Colorado safer is a priority
for them, And then compare that to everything he's done
that's made Colorado dramatically, dramatically more dangerous.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The Attorney General's office tells us they agree with the governor,
but sheriff's offices like those in Teller counties.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So Phil Wiser agrees with Polis.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's going to make you sleep better at night, Ryan,
And that's going to help, Okay, all the rape victims,
all the murder victims, all the people have died in
car crashes, everything else. That's going to give them eternal peace.
Knowing that Phil Weiser agrees with Jared Poulis, why don't
you throw Jenna Griswold in the mix. All three could
agree that and make everybody feel better.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
They want more power to go after these immigrants committing crimes,
in other words, to widen the window of cooperation he has.
As for Michel's bill, we'll have to see how it
fares in the legislature.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, and what's yeah, wait and see how it fares
in the legislature.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Write I mean, because because what's clear and a big
question for you is, okay, is that going to lead
to a tipping point in Colorado where Republicans start winning
a lot more? Now? We got these big state wide
races coming up, right, and so is that going to
lead to this tipping point, since clearly the left that
controls the Colorado Democratic Party and so by extension, controls Colorado.
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They are pro criminal, they are pro illegal immigrant, they're
pro illegal immigrant who commits other crimes here, no matter
what they say. And is it reaching the point where
the people of Colorado say, hey, that's a bridge too far,
we're going to start electing Republicans. I don't think it's
reached that point. I think that what you need is
you need the combination.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You need the.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Combination of all that becoming clear, and then you need
really good Republican candidates, really well organized, and above all,
you need a unified Republican Party in Colorado. And do
you think that's attainable? If SOHI love your thoughts eight
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Speaker 2 (10:55):
Three nine.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas show. Pot Boy,
I have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think we're living through one of the most dynamic
tipping point moments, at least in my short lifetime. And
I don't know that tipping point completely captures it. I
think it's even bigger than that. And what's going on
right now is I think you have a lot of
people in America across party lines, some who will talk
about it publicly, others who whisper it into the pillow
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at night, who are saying, wait a second, that this
truly is madness, that for all these years, we've just
come to accept that we don't have borders and that
we're going to be flooded with millions and millions of
people who are here illegally, and these are people without
a shred of racial animis, And I think many of
these people quite the opposite.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Many people who understand.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
The reality of a lot of people here illegally, which
is a lot of people here illegally are great humans.
They're wonderful people, tremendous people, admirable people. And then you
have another group of people here illegally.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Who are monsters.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And so even a lot of people who recognize that
a whole bunch of people here illegally are great humans
who benefit the community in a lot of ways look
at it and say, but you can't. You can't operate
a country this way. You just can't operate a country
this way. And it's really just getting out of control.
And I think the tipping point part of this has
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been obviously when the left, and they're all responsible, right,
because none of them stood up and said, wait, we
got to stop this. It's madness, it's national suicide. When
the left decided to just completely open the border and
everybody gets to flow in, rape, murder, whatever it is
you get to flow into unvetted at that point, I
think it was this tipping point that took America to
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the point it re elected President Trump convincingly. And now
President Trump's actions which show it is possible to lead
and it is possible to deliver on promises. And then
you see forty or fifty TDA and they're just the
worst in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You see forty or fifty TDA rounded up in a
raid in Adams County over the weekend, and you just
get so many people across party lines cheering that and saying, yeah,
that's what we want to see, and it's crazy that
it ever got to this point. So I really do
think we're at one of those moments that promises a
few things that I think are going to really matter
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in your life.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
One is, on a.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Practical level, full throated support and very little meaningful opposition
to what President Trump and Ice are now starting to do,
which means it's going to be done on a larger scale,
which means our communities are going to become safer almost
every day, certainly every week, certainly every month.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And when's the last time that happened.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Think about how many years it's been now where you've
just sort of gotten numbed to it, you got used
to it that. Okay, it's less safe now than it
was yesterday. Okay, it's less safe now than it was
the day before. It's always becoming less safe in Colorado,
and it because of things the left does. And now
that's starting to turn around. And once people get a
taste to that, right it's once like once the Lions got.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
A taste of winning.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But once people got a taste to that, then of
course people are going to say, I want this to
be as safe as it can be. So that's another
reason I think we're in one of these kind of
magic moments right now that that nations sometimes go through.
I'm sure you go through it in your own life,
in your own ways, but sometimes nations go through it.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And I think we're in one of those moments right now.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I think it also promises political upheaval of a
large scale. I mean, we saw on an election day,
but to the point where it can even change the
dynamic in Colorado. Now that's a tougher nut to crack,
right because America is probably what prior to this election
maybe D plus one or two and Colorado's D plus
twelve or fourteen statewide or whatever, but not an impossible
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nut to crack. So yeah, I think we're living in
a really special moment right now. A five five for
zero five, A two five to five the number techs
DA and five seven seven nine. Now that is in
part to set up this sound from JD Vance because
it is so clear to me, and we've been saying
it for a long time, but it's even more clear
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now that the President Trump that we're getting right now
in this separated second term is probably ten to twenty
times better than the President Trump in the first term.
And the President Trump in the first term was historically great.
But the President Trump we're getting now is so organized,
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so focused, so effective, We're going to get so much
more great, so much quicker. Plus, his opposition has been obliterated.
Because his opposition has been exposed, his opposition has been humiliated.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The media arm of.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
His opposition has been exposed and has lost virtually all credibility.
Right now, It's probably better for most on the right
to be under attack from the media than to have
the media say anything good about him.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
That's the reality in America right now.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And so so his strength is political capital, his hammer
is that much bigger. So it just positions things to
the point where part of that, I believe is he
is very, very focused now, not just on getting a
second term, you know, staying out of jail, defeating these
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efforts to wrongfully imprison him. I think he's very focused
now on the long term beyond him.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I think the JD.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Vance pick and that came from Don Junior, right but
I think that was part of that. And I think
he was really impressed with Vance and the debate, as
he should have been. And I think right now the
plan is, you know, to continue this movement through JD.
Vance in twenty eight and that's why I think in
part you saw JD. Vance out on the national trail
this weekend doing this Martha Brennan interview and JD. Vance
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greenlighted to be as aggressive as he's been. So I
think there's this succession plan in place. I want to
give you some of that, and then what I want
to cycle to. It'll probably be after this next break.
Is one thing jd Vance said that I think is
blatantly false. I'm disappointed in him for saying it, but
I understand he's only human.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We're all only human.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But everything out and I think I understand why he
said it, which to me, doesn't excuse it. Everything else
I think was absolutely brilliant and right on point.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
If you are a lawful permanent resident or a legal
immigrant who plans to stay, your children, of course, should
become American citizens. But let's say you're the child of
an ambassador, you don't become That's not part of it,
well principle, but we're saying that that carve out should
apply to anybody who doesn't plan.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
To stay here.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
If you come here on vacation and you have a
baby in an American hospital, that baby doesn't become an
American citizen. If you're an legal alien and you come
here temporarily, hopefully your child does not become an American
citizen by virtue of just having been born on American soil.
It's a very basic principle. An American immigration law that
if you want to become an American citizen and you've
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done it the right way and the American people and
their collective wisdom have welcomed you into our national community,
then you become a citizen. But temporary residents, people who
come in here, whether legally or illegally, and don't plan
to stay. Yeah, your children should become American citizens. I
don't know any country that does that or why we
would be different.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And he's one hundred percent correct. But I want to
get into more of this interview with Margaret Brennan because
they say he's spired with her. He put her on
the mat, and it's just it's tremendous in so many
different ways, and that's not a gender thing. The point
here being that part of the reason Trump won and
what's going to be key to GOP success long term,
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is the willingness to engage with and expose lying media
that has just become an arm of the Democratic Party.
And that's something the Republican Party never would have thought
of years ago, would have been petrified to do. It
was more of a kiss up and hope they don't,
you know, whip us to badly kind of strategy. But
Trump is showing another way. Vance is brilliant at executing it,
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and I want to get into that in more detail.
But listen, can we agree on this that this whole
idea that somebody should become an American citizen because their
parents who are here illegally were here, or his mom
obviously was here when he was born, That makes no
sense constitutionally, It makes no sense from a public policy standpoint.
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If there's one thing we can be sure of, one
thing we can be sure of, even more sure of
than your own name, is that the founder Second Founding
in eighteen sixty eight, they in no way, shape or
form with the fourteenth Amendment intended to say that that
if somebody comes to this country I legally and as
a baby, that baby's automatically an American citizen. The fourteenth
Amendment was about the horrific abuse of black people in
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America as slaves. It was all about that. There was
no question of their intent. But let me come back. Yeah,
we'll get into Vance taking apart Margaret Brennan. But then
I do want to get to the one thing he
said which is really wrong and needs to be corrected.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You're on the Dan Caplass Show.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
You're listening to the Dankapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
In the long history of the world, only a few
generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in
its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from
this responsibility.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I welcome it.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
I do not believe that any of us what exchange
places with any other people or any other generation. The energy,
the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor
where light our country and all who serve it, and
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the glow from that fire can truly.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Light the world.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
And so my fellow Americans, ask not what your country
can do for you, ask what you can do for
your country, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And I'm playing some JFK today because I think we're
in a moment right now, and it's wild when you
stop and think about it. Right everything Trump's been subjected to,
all the lies, the coup attempt, the politically motivated prosecutions.
They wanted him to die in Joel because they couldn't
beat him at the ballot box. All of that now
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has been flipped, in part because almost Goliath, like you
know biblically, he stood up against all of that. Hey
to be more of a David versus Goliath kind of comparison.
Believe me, I'm not compared being President Trump in the
purest sense to King David, not at all. That's not
the point. The point is he stood up against forces
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that appeared to be unbeatable, and maybe for any other
mere human on earth would have been unbeatable, and he
beat him, and he triumphed, and now America can see
that it's so much better off for it, and a
lot of scales are falling off, a lot of eyes.
And so I was very, very very young when JFK
was president, but I still have some of those memories
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and just a memory of him being very special and
a memory of the country regarding him in a certain way.
And then throughout the rest of my lifetime, the only
president who's even come remotely close to that was Reagan.
But by then, you know that the nation was becoming
more and more polarized. Abortion had divided our nation, you know,
the scourage of legalized abortion on demanded divided the nation,
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and that division was growing. And so Reagan, I think
never probably reached, for all his greatness, the level of
kind of universal admiration that I think Kennedy had not complete.
But widespread. My point is this, I think right now
Donald Trump is in a position to become the most
widely respected and certainly effective president since Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I think we're in one of those moments.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's not guaranteed, but the table's been set, and he's
been doing a lot of things really, really well.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So we'll continue to play some more. JFK.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Yeah, I'm so glad you played that, Dan. For a
couple of reasons. One, I went back and watched JFK
the Oliver Stone film over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No? You've not? No? Why not Busy?
Speaker 7 (23:38):
It came out in nineteen ninety one, Been Busy, Kevin Costner's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I met my wife in ninety two, Real busy.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
If you could have seen it with her. But it's
a provocative film. I remember at the time it was
controversial and a lot of people dismissed it out of
hand as just this kind of half baked conspiracy theory
whatever based on the attorney who's portrayed in the movie
by Kevin Coster.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But went back and watched it.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I tell you what a comparison I will make, not
to King David, but Donald Trump to JFK. In terms
of being anti establishment, saying that he wanted to blow
the CIA into a thousand bits and was planning to
do it, did not want to get involved in a
quagmire in Vietnam. He was precient and correct on that point.
He made a lot of enemies in a very short
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period of time. And who does that remind you of?
Donald Truck?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, and then obviously the assassination attempts on Trump, though
at this point, sitting here in a radio studio without
subpoena power, I can't tell you for sure who was
behind all of that. But yeah, no, it's going to
be fascinating to watch this unfold. And I think Trump
just answered Ryan for us a big question we've been
debating on the show, right, because I as a former Democrat,
and Mary to a Democrat at least until recently somebody
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told me she's now unaffiliated. I've not been able to
confirm that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know, we've been.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Debating on this show. What percentage of Democrats are these
are left types, right, who just are nothing like traditional
Democrats in my opinion, And we debate that on the show.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But Trump just answered it for us, at least his
take on it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
He's speaking right now, I think, to a congressional caucus
and just came out and said that about half the
Democrats are crazy, quote unquote, So that's his number, fifty
to fifty, and.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That might be who knows, he might be right on.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That, probably in the ballpark that the problem we have
is that the people who own and operate the Democratic
Party are the crazies, so they get to call all
those shots. And then you have a bunch of these
people who may not be crazies, but they're willing to
do all this crazy stuff because they want the money
and the power that they can only get if they
please the people who own and operate the Democratic Party,
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who are the crazies.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So anyway, I want to get to some of jd
Vance some more of it with Margaret Brunnan of CBS,
and again Vance absolutely brilliant and so many different ways.
I do want to get to this point though, that
I disagree with him on, and then I imagine you're
gonna have some strong feelings on this. You'll probably agree
with jd Vance, and I look forward to persuading you
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that jd Vance is wrong on this. So here is
jd Vance criticizing the US Conference of Catholic Bishops. Is
the Catholic Church in the United States taking a formal
position on President Trump's immigration Yeah, sorry, that's not the
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cut I intended to pull up. Let me find the cut. Yeah,
I'll find that we have so many Jdvance cuts. That's
my bad. But and there won't be time in this segment.
But what we'll do when we get to this, and
it'll be about four forty nine, is it's going to
be jd Vance being very very critical of the Conference
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of Catholic Bishops because because they came out and they
were in part critical of some of President Trump's recent
executive orders on illegal immigration. And again, you know, my
starting point is I agree with what President Trump is
doing right now on illegal immigration. I agree with that.
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But then we come back to this allegation of jd
Vance's that the bishop's criticism of the Trump plan is
financially motivated. And jd Vance uses the number of one
hundred million and jd Vance and you'll hear it in
his own words when we pull it up after this break.
Jd Vance is saying that, no, the Conference of Catholic
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Bishops is opposing the.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Trump stuff they are posting they're not opposing at.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
All because of money, and that is absolutely preposterous and JD.
Vance must know that now again, if you weren't with
us earlier. I have a lot of respect and admiration
for JD.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I think he's been a tremendous candidate, a tremendous VPCE
so far. I think he'll probably be the next president
and be a tremendous president. But when he says something
that is just I believe peytently false, I believes said
for political reasons, I've got to call him out on that.
I mean, that's been my mo on era for almost
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thirty years now, however long it had been on, which
is just.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm a true seeker. I speak the truth.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
If you think I'm wrong, well then point out where
I'm wrong. Let's have that conversation. We don't censor. I'm
fully available to you. But I think Vance is provably
wrong here. He knows he's wrong, and he was willing
to say it anyway for political reasons. And I don't
like that. Listen, I don't require or expect perfection in anybody.
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Lord knows I'm not, and so you know, not getting
it in Jade Vance. I think he's still one of
the very best out there. I think he'll make a
great president. But when he says something it isn't true,
needs to be called on it. I'd like to think
even if I wasn't Catholic, and even if I wasn't
involved in Catholic charities, and I happen to sit on
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the board of Catholic Charities of Denver, that I would
still call him out on this because it's so bogus.
But I'll get to that after the break eight five
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Our only sure reward, with history the final judge of
our deeds.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Let us go.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Forth to lead the land we love, asking his blessing
and his help, but knowing that here on earth God's
work must truly be our own.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And that's how he closed his twenty two minute inaugural
address JFK.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That's another reason why he'd be thrown out of the
Democratic Party today, right. I doubt he'd even be accepted
into the Democratic Party to begin with. And that tells
you everything you need to know about the Democratic Party.
And I talk about that because I think we're going
to be hearing more and more starting on this show.
I don't think you've heard it anywhere else, but that's
the way it often works, right. You hear something first
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on this show, and then people say, oh, that's crazy,
and then a few months or a year later, people say, oh, yeah,
that's true, that's right, and then everybody's saying it. But
I think you're going to start hearing these JFK. Trump comparisons.
And I know they have different styles, etc. But in
terms of a president, you know, rising above it and
being regarded in America, a lot of people will regard
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Trump well and never admitted to a polster, etc. But
of that kind of regard and that kind of Trump,
I think already has more worldwide respects slash year than
JFK ever had. But I think that we're going to,
if we're not there already, because of all these special
circumstances and Trump's amazing I am over seemingly insurmountable adversity.
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I think we're going to be seen and hearing those
comparisons much more importantly, because really, who cares what opinion
people say is I think we're going to be living
it because Trump's going to be doing so many great things.
I do think JFK may very well have saved the
world through his great work during the Cuban missile crisis.
He screwed some other things up, but everybody screws something up.
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But Trump, He's already doing so many things well. Which
brings me to Jadvans And if you just joined the show,
thank you. I spent a lot of time earlier, as
I have before, praising him. I want to play now
the sound from his thrashing of Margaret Brennan on Face
the Nation over the weekend, where I think he said
something false. I think he knows it was false, he
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knew it was false at the time he said it.
I think he said it for political purposes, and I
think that's lousy. And listen all my praise of him,
and it's kind of ninety nine to one praise versus criticism.
My praise of him is meaningless if I'm not willing
to speak the truth about him when he does something wrong,
and I think he did something wrong here in particular
within this riff, when he alleges that the Catholic bishops
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are opposing certain Trump immigration orders for money.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Let me ask this question, Let's separate the immigration issue.
If you had a violent murderer and a school, of
course I want law enforcement to go and get that
person out.
Speaker 10 (32:23):
Of course, the point of the question, you change the
regulation this week. That's the point of the question exactly
giving the authority to go into churches and go into school.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Empowered law enforcement to enforce the law. Also where to
protect Americans?
Speaker 10 (32:37):
In fact, a chilling effect arguably to people to not
send their pods to school.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
I desperately hope it has a chilling effect.
Speaker 10 (32:44):
You think the US Confidence of Catholics bishops are actively
hiding criminals.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I think the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has frankly
not been a good partner in common sense immigration enforcement
that the American people voted for.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And then where he goes from there is he talks
about the hundred million dollars. He uses that figure. I
don't know what the real figure is. I would think
it to'd be higher than that because of all the
great work that the Catholic Church, et cetera across the
country has done in the trenches to try to keep
this country together. As I've said before, you know, without
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the great work Catholic Charities does in Denver, Denver and
Colorado fall apart.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And that's not rhetoric, that's literal.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And here speaking in Denver, Catholic Charities and the Catholic
Church in Colorado do so much with so little money,
particularly so little government money. As though it's significant, they
do so much with that money, and so much of
it goes way beyond any benefit that funding provides, and
it goes to the funding from other sources, it goes to.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Just people doing the work of Christ.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And I'm just telling you as a practical infrastructure type matter,
without that work, this state and I can speak much
more credibly to this state than I can to the
nation because I just know more about Catholic Charities in
this state. I only recently joined the board, but I've
been an admirer of it for years, and my wife
and I contributors. I'm just telling you, this state falls
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apart without Catholic Charities. Any suggestion from jd. Vance that
the bishops are taking their positions on immigration the US
Conference over money.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Is absolutely preposterous. It's not a money maker to begin with.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean, when you talk about all the work that
goes into caring for people, whether they're here illegally or not,
all of that really hard work, etc. That the benefit
of that, the hours put in it goes so far
beyond any dollar figure. Now it is not a profit
making tool for the Catholic Church in America. And so
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I think it was really just, and he knows it,
an untrue, illogical really in suggestion that the Catholic bishops
of this country, the Catholic Church of this country. And
by the way, the Trump team Trump doesn't win without
an overwhelming Catholic vote support. And I know we won
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by a significant margin, but a big part of that,
particularly in key swing states, was enormous Catholic vote support.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
So to be coming out now.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And seeing one of the worst things you ever could
about a person or organization, that they're doing something bad
because of a money motive, the last people on earth
who are going to have that money motive.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
They may be right or they may be wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, we're all still human, right, And I have
so much respect for every Catholic bishop or cardinal I've
ever known, but they're all still human. They're capable of
making a mistake. But whether they're right or wrong, the
suggestion that the Catholic Bishops of America are going to
do something wrong for money, Advance has to know, and
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particularly has to know as a Catholic, that's absently ludicrous. Now,
you can then talk about the position that the Catholic
Bishops of America took on certain of these executive orders,
and that's a fair conversation to have. But to suggest
their motive is money, that's a gutter tactic. That is
a gutter tactic that is is so false and so
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disrespectful and really so uncalled for. Here, just debate the
broader policy. Say no, you know, we think they're wrong,
and we think they're wrong because of this or that,
and you're going to convince a very large majority of Americans,
Jay Devans, that you're right. So to suggest the money motive,
to me, that was a form of attempted intimidation. That
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was a form of trying to punish somebody who had
spoken out against you, some powerful group that had spoken
out against you. That was a warning shot. You want
to criticize our policies, We're going to come after you personally.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
We're going to say you have money motivation.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Well, that that's the politics of left, the politics of
personal destruction. No, Jay Devance. Debate on policy. You've got
a very strong policy position. Debate on that that, don't
go attacking them personally. That that's beneath you, it's beneath
this administration. It's false and it's wrong. You're on the
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orders probe of January sixth prosecutors. So major move a
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the entire nation just to have a full public reporting
of everything that unfolded there, because I don't think any
reasonable person doubts that those prosecutions of Trump were politically motivated,
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and anybody can see what a direct threat that is
to the foundation of the country. So it does look
like he intends to get to the bottom of it.
So I think America will very much benefit from that.
Glad you're here. So much to talk about this afternoon. Obviously,
water cooler today as it should be is the ice.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Raids over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
According to reporting, forty to fifty TDA gang members apprehended
by ice. Great news, right, I mean, and it does
just make you sit back. It's not even a good
talk topic, right, because everybody's going to agree that's the
right thing to do. But some of the people who
are leading the charge now to agree it's the right
thing to do had been in a position to help
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get it done for years and had not done it.
I mean Jared Polis. Now, Ryan, you would think that
he works at Knights as an enforcer for Tom Homan,
you know, and that he wanders the country apprehending illegals.
You know, when Jared Poulis was front and center signing
all of these bills that had the effect of, in
my opinion and the opinion of I think, any reasonable person,
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making Colorado a sanctuary state for people in the country illegally.
And now he's the guy that are, oh, no sanctuary state,
not at all, deport everybody who's committed another crime here
kind of stuff. And the fun thing in watching all
of that is he really thinks people are going to
believe him. Marlin doesn't believe him. That there's normally we say, well,
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there's nobody outside of their own household who believes them.
Nobody in his old household believes him. But again, because
he lives in this money bubble, and he lives in
this media bubble where he's been able to intimidate a
lot of media. You say anything bad about me, you'll
lose access. You know, he really thinks people out there.
It's kind of an emperor. Has no close kind of
deal with Polus. Here's some reporting on that out of
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Colorado Springs, and that will lead us into jd Vance,
who really had a remarkable appearance over the weekend on
national television.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think, clearly.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Cementing himself as the odds on favorite to succeed President
Trump and become president in twenty eight he did say
one thing I strongly disagree with, while he said many
things I agree with, But in the process of doing it,
he clearly, just as he was in the debate, one
of the smartest, most articulate, tough thing in all the
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positive sense actors on the national stage. Let's start with
his care Do thirteen story out of Colorado Springs as
Polish tries to redefine himself on immigration and kind of
change history.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
The disagreement seems to be a matter of interpretation of law.
Sheriffs and Alpaso County and Teller County saying state law
has hampered their ability to communicate with Ice and cooperate
in many ways. So we ask Governor Jared Polus about
these claims today. Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
This narrative is false that Colorado is any way, shape
or form of sanctuary state.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
We are not.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Colorado is not a sanctuary state.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Wait a second, he's the guy who signed the bills.
He's the guy who signed the bills making it tougher,
making it tougher on local law enforcement, making it tougher
on ICE to deport people.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And these are people in police custody.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So Polis went out of his way to make it
tougher on local law enforce and ICE to get rid
of people who were already committing other crimes. Now, obviously
that's going to encourage people coming here illegally, and even worse,
encourage people coming here illegally who have committed other crimes
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to come to Colorado because where they get what do
they get there? They get protection? What's protection another word
for sanctuary. I mean, Polish really does think everybody who
doesn't have a billion bucks in the bank is stupid?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I mean it's and then who really.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Is according to the governor, but some lawmakers disagree, the.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Fact of the matter is these sanctuary state laws were
signed into law by the governor.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Republican representatives Jeff Crank, Lauren Bobert, and Gabe Evans penned
this letter to the governor last week, asking the governor
to repeal laws that Taylor County Sheriff Jason Michel says
hamper his ability to work with Ice.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
This policy is allowing people who are rapists and killers
to be let out to walk on our streets instead
of being deported back to the country that they're from.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Today, Sheriff Mike Sel partnered with local lawmakers to present
a new bill that would repeal those laws.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Without those partnerships, this is why we have cartels in Colorado,
without that partnership. This is why you're seeing horizon fentanyl
car thefts across the state police.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
How's a different take on that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's important to recognize is that your local police or
your local sheriff's department, they're not arms of the federal government.
We don't want them being commandeered.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
To total garbage.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
And again, the police is so deceptive in so many
different ways, at so many different levels. So this goes
into the he thinks your stupid category, and he thinks
the sheriffs are stupid, So okay, now Polus signs these bills,
it makes it a lot harder on sheriffs and other
law enforcement to work with ICE to get rid of
people in the country legally you have committed other crimes.
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But then Polis says, oh, no, no, no, we only
did that because we don't want them to be arms
of the federal government. When you stop and think about it,
it doesn't even make any sense. It's kind of a
word sell thing. It doesn't even make any sense. How
is it turning our law enforcement into arms of the
federal government. If our law enforcement is permitted to cooperate
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with the federal government, use the federal government to our
advantage when it benefits the people of Colorado, that would
be like saying, okay, see Dot, and none of our
local communities can work with the federal government on road
construction or accept any federal funding, because then, no, then
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we're turning Sea Dot into an arm of the federal government.
See it's that ludicrous. But he's not a stupid man.
He just thinks you're stupid. And the joke's really on him, right.
I mean, he's been able to buy his way into
all these offices in Colorado, you know, and he's starting
to run out of those offices.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Look and see what happens when he tries to go national.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think you've already SAI, right, So anybody doubt he
tried to go national in this last race. It never
even got into serious discussion. I mean, he was able
to get his name mentioned here there, but never even
got into say, serious discussion for Kamala Harris's VP or
anything like that. Now, all of this is just insulting
to your intelligence. The fun thing is again the joke's
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on him. Nobody's going to buy it. He's going to
get blamed.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The people of.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Colorado do blame him. They know the truth that they know.
He's made it easier for criminal illegals to come to Colorado,
stay in Colorado, continue to operate in Colorado even after
they've been arrested in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Instead of going after crime enforcing federal immigration statutes.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
In other words, police wants police departments and sheriffs to
get rid of crime in the state, not go after
illegal immigrants, since that's ICE's job.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It's wait a second, we're talking about illegal immigrants who've
committed other crimes. That's who ends up in these law
enforcement jails. That that's the big concern is illegal immigrants
who've committed other crimes. How else, by the way, how
did they end up in jail, How they end up
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in jail, How they end up in the custody of
law enforcement that now wants to work with ICE to
make sure they don't victimize other Colorados.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Not the responsibility of the governor to try and handcuff
law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The thing lawmakers and sheriffs can agree on today, the
goal is to make Colorado safer.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We are are excited by any federal help that can
make Colorado safer.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Anybody who thinks Jared Polis has had making Colorado safer
a priority just is not paying attention. And it goes
back to my saying, right, and I think we've copyrighted this,
maybe trademark and maybe both, which is stick your head
in the sand, you get your you know what kicked.
And so so, anybody, what is Jared Polus ever done
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that suggests to you making Colorado safer is a priority
for them, And then compare that to everything he's done
that's made Colorado dramatically, dramatically more dangerous.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The Attorney General's office tells us they agree with the governor,
but sheriff's offices like those in Teller counties.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So Phil Wiser agrees with Polis.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's going to make you sleep better at night, Ryan,
And that's going to help, Okay, all the rape victims,
all the murder victims, all the people have died in
car crashes, everything else. That's going to give them eternal peace.
Knowing that Phil Weiser agrees with Jared Poulis, why don't
you throw Jenna Griswold in the mix. All three could
agree that and make everybody feel better.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
They want more power to go after these immigrants committing crimes,
in other words, to widen the window of cooperation he has.
As for Michel's bill, we'll have to see how it
fares in the legislature.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, and what's yeah, wait and see how it fares
in the legislature.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Write I mean, because because what's clear and a big
question for you is, okay, is that going to lead
to a tipping point in Colorado where Republicans start winning
a lot more? Now? We got these big state wide
races coming up, right, and so is that going to
lead to this tipping point, since clearly the left that
controls the Colorado Democratic Party and so by extension, controls Colorado.
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They are pro criminal, they are pro illegal immigrant, they're
pro illegal immigrant who commits other crimes here, no matter
what they say. And is it reaching the point where
the people of Colorado say, hey, that's a bridge too far,
we're going to start electing Republicans. I don't think it's
reached that point. I think that what you need is
you need the combination.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You need the.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Combination of all that becoming clear, and then you need
really good Republican candidates, really well organized, and above all,
you need a unified Republican Party in Colorado. And do
you think that's attainable? If SOHI love your thoughts eight
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Speaker 2 (10:55):
Three nine.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas show. Pot Boy,
I have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think we're living through one of the most dynamic
tipping point moments, at least in my short lifetime. And
I don't know that tipping point completely captures it. I
think it's even bigger than that. And what's going on
right now is I think you have a lot of
people in America across party lines, some who will talk
about it publicly, others who whisper it into the pillow
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at night, who are saying, wait a second, that this
truly is madness, that for all these years, we've just
come to accept that we don't have borders and that
we're going to be flooded with millions and millions of
people who are here illegally, and these are people without
a shred of racial animis, And I think many of
these people quite the opposite.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Many people who understand.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
The reality of a lot of people here illegally, which
is a lot of people here illegally are great humans.
They're wonderful people, tremendous people, admirable people. And then you
have another group of people here illegally.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Who are monsters.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And so even a lot of people who recognize that
a whole bunch of people here illegally are great humans
who benefit the community in a lot of ways look
at it and say, but you can't. You can't operate
a country this way. You just can't operate a country
this way. And it's really just getting out of control.
And I think the tipping point part of this has
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been obviously when the left, and they're all responsible, right,
because none of them stood up and said, wait, we
got to stop this. It's madness, it's national suicide. When
the left decided to just completely open the border and
everybody gets to flow in, rape, murder, whatever it is
you get to flow into unvetted at that point, I
think it was this tipping point that took America to
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the point it re elected President Trump convincingly. And now
President Trump's actions which show it is possible to lead
and it is possible to deliver on promises. And then
you see forty or fifty TDA and they're just the
worst in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You see forty or fifty TDA rounded up in a
raid in Adams County over the weekend, and you just
get so many people across party lines cheering that and saying, yeah,
that's what we want to see, and it's crazy that
it ever got to this point. So I really do
think we're at one of those moments that promises a
few things that I think are going to really matter
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in your life.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
One is, on a.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Practical level, full throated support and very little meaningful opposition
to what President Trump and Ice are now starting to do,
which means it's going to be done on a larger scale,
which means our communities are going to become safer almost
every day, certainly every week, certainly every month.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And when's the last time that happened.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Think about how many years it's been now where you've
just sort of gotten numbed to it, you got used
to it that. Okay, it's less safe now than it
was yesterday. Okay, it's less safe now than it was
the day before. It's always becoming less safe in Colorado,
and it because of things the left does. And now
that's starting to turn around. And once people get a
taste to that, right it's once like once the Lions got.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
A taste of winning.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But once people got a taste to that, then of
course people are going to say, I want this to
be as safe as it can be. So that's another
reason I think we're in one of these kind of
magic moments right now that that nations sometimes go through.
I'm sure you go through it in your own life,
in your own ways, but sometimes nations go through it.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And I think we're in one of those moments right now.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I think it also promises political upheaval of a
large scale. I mean, we saw on an election day,
but to the point where it can even change the
dynamic in Colorado. Now that's a tougher nut to crack,
right because America is probably what prior to this election
maybe D plus one or two and Colorado's D plus
twelve or fourteen statewide or whatever, but not an impossible
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nut to crack. So yeah, I think we're living in
a really special moment right now. A five five for
zero five, A two five to five the number techs
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part to set up this sound from JD Vance because
it is so clear to me, and we've been saying
it for a long time, but it's even more clear
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now that the President Trump that we're getting right now
in this separated second term is probably ten to twenty
times better than the President Trump in the first term.
And the President Trump in the first term was historically great.
But the President Trump we're getting now is so organized,
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so focused, so effective, We're going to get so much
more great, so much quicker. Plus, his opposition has been obliterated.
Because his opposition has been exposed, his opposition has been humiliated.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The media arm of.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
His opposition has been exposed and has lost virtually all credibility.
Right now, It's probably better for most on the right
to be under attack from the media than to have
the media say anything good about him.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
That's the reality in America right now.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And so so his strength is political capital, his hammer
is that much bigger. So it just positions things to
the point where part of that, I believe is he
is very, very focused now, not just on getting a
second term, you know, staying out of jail, defeating these
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efforts to wrongfully imprison him. I think he's very focused
now on the long term beyond him.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I think the JD.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Vance pick and that came from Don Junior, right but
I think that was part of that. And I think
he was really impressed with Vance and the debate, as
he should have been. And I think right now the
plan is, you know, to continue this movement through JD.
Vance in twenty eight and that's why I think in
part you saw JD. Vance out on the national trail
this weekend doing this Martha Brennan interview and JD. Vance
(16:53):
greenlighted to be as aggressive as he's been. So I
think there's this succession plan in place. I want to
give you some of that, and then what I want
to cycle to. It'll probably be after this next break.
Is one thing jd Vance said that I think is
blatantly false. I'm disappointed in him for saying it, but
I understand he's only human.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We're all only human.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But everything out and I think I understand why he
said it, which to me, doesn't excuse it. Everything else
I think was absolutely brilliant and right on point.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
If you are a lawful permanent resident or a legal
immigrant who plans to stay, your children, of course, should
become American citizens. But let's say you're the child of
an ambassador, you don't become That's not part of it,
well principle, but we're saying that that carve out should
apply to anybody who doesn't plan.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
To stay here.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
If you come here on vacation and you have a
baby in an American hospital, that baby doesn't become an
American citizen. If you're an legal alien and you come
here temporarily, hopefully your child does not become an American
citizen by virtue of just having been born on American soil.
It's a very basic principle. An American immigration law that
if you want to become an American citizen and you've
(18:09):
done it the right way and the American people and
their collective wisdom have welcomed you into our national community,
then you become a citizen. But temporary residents, people who
come in here, whether legally or illegally, and don't plan
to stay. Yeah, your children should become American citizens. I
don't know any country that does that or why we
would be different.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And he's one hundred percent correct. But I want to
get into more of this interview with Margaret Brennan because
they say he's spired with her. He put her on
the mat, and it's just it's tremendous in so many
different ways, and that's not a gender thing. The point
here being that part of the reason Trump won and
what's going to be key to GOP success long term,
(18:49):
is the willingness to engage with and expose lying media
that has just become an arm of the Democratic Party.
And that's something the Republican Party never would have thought
of years ago, would have been petrified to do. It
was more of a kiss up and hope they don't,
you know, whip us to badly kind of strategy. But
Trump is showing another way. Vance is brilliant at executing it,
(19:11):
and I want to get into that in more detail.
But listen, can we agree on this that this whole
idea that somebody should become an American citizen because their
parents who are here illegally were here, or his mom
obviously was here when he was born, That makes no
sense constitutionally, It makes no sense from a public policy standpoint.
(19:33):
If there's one thing we can be sure of, one
thing we can be sure of, even more sure of
than your own name, is that the founder Second Founding
in eighteen sixty eight, they in no way, shape or
form with the fourteenth Amendment intended to say that that
if somebody comes to this country I legally and as
a baby, that baby's automatically an American citizen. The fourteenth
Amendment was about the horrific abuse of black people in
(19:56):
America as slaves. It was all about that. There was
no question of their intent. But let me come back. Yeah,
we'll get into Vance taking apart Margaret Brennan. But then
I do want to get to the one thing he
said which is really wrong and needs to be corrected.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You're on the Dan Caplass Show.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
You're listening to the Dankapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
In the long history of the world, only a few
generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in
its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from
this responsibility.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I welcome it.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
I do not believe that any of us what exchange
places with any other people or any other generation. The energy,
the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor
where light our country and all who serve it, and
(21:04):
the glow from that fire can truly.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Light the world.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
And so my fellow Americans, ask not what your country
can do for you, ask what you can do for
your country, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And I'm playing some JFK today because I think we're
in a moment right now, and it's wild when you
stop and think about it. Right everything Trump's been subjected to,
all the lies, the coup attempt, the politically motivated prosecutions.
They wanted him to die in Joel because they couldn't
beat him at the ballot box. All of that now
(21:46):
has been flipped, in part because almost Goliath, like you
know biblically, he stood up against all of that. Hey
to be more of a David versus Goliath kind of comparison.
Believe me, I'm not compared being President Trump in the
purest sense to King David, not at all. That's not
the point. The point is he stood up against forces
(22:07):
that appeared to be unbeatable, and maybe for any other
mere human on earth would have been unbeatable, and he
beat him, and he triumphed, and now America can see
that it's so much better off for it, and a
lot of scales are falling off, a lot of eyes.
And so I was very, very very young when JFK
was president, but I still have some of those memories
(22:30):
and just a memory of him being very special and
a memory of the country regarding him in a certain way.
And then throughout the rest of my lifetime, the only
president who's even come remotely close to that was Reagan.
But by then, you know that the nation was becoming
more and more polarized. Abortion had divided our nation, you know,
the scourage of legalized abortion on demanded divided the nation,
(22:53):
and that division was growing. And so Reagan, I think
never probably reached, for all his greatness, the level of
kind of universal admiration that I think Kennedy had not complete.
But widespread. My point is this, I think right now
Donald Trump is in a position to become the most
widely respected and certainly effective president since Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I think we're in one of those moments.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's not guaranteed, but the table's been set, and he's
been doing a lot of things really, really well.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So we'll continue to play some more. JFK.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Yeah, I'm so glad you played that, Dan. For a
couple of reasons. One, I went back and watched JFK
the Oliver Stone film over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No? You've not? No? Why not Busy?
Speaker 7 (23:38):
It came out in nineteen ninety one, Been Busy, Kevin Costner's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I met my wife in ninety two, Real busy.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
If you could have seen it with her. But it's
a provocative film. I remember at the time it was
controversial and a lot of people dismissed it out of
hand as just this kind of half baked conspiracy theory
whatever based on the attorney who's portrayed in the movie
by Kevin Coster.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But went back and watched it.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I tell you what a comparison I will make, not
to King David, but Donald Trump to JFK. In terms
of being anti establishment, saying that he wanted to blow
the CIA into a thousand bits and was planning to
do it, did not want to get involved in a
quagmire in Vietnam. He was precient and correct on that point.
He made a lot of enemies in a very short
(24:22):
period of time. And who does that remind you of?
Donald Truck?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, and then obviously the assassination attempts on Trump, though
at this point, sitting here in a radio studio without
subpoena power, I can't tell you for sure who was
behind all of that. But yeah, no, it's going to
be fascinating to watch this unfold. And I think Trump
just answered Ryan for us a big question we've been
debating on the show, right, because I as a former Democrat,
and Mary to a Democrat at least until recently somebody
(24:48):
told me she's now unaffiliated. I've not been able to
confirm that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know, we've been.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Debating on this show. What percentage of Democrats are these
are left types, right, who just are nothing like traditional
Democrats in my opinion, And we debate that on the show.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But Trump just answered it for us, at least his
take on it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
He's speaking right now, I think, to a congressional caucus
and just came out and said that about half the
Democrats are crazy, quote unquote, So that's his number, fifty
to fifty, and.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That might be who knows, he might be right on.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That, probably in the ballpark that the problem we have
is that the people who own and operate the Democratic
Party are the crazies, so they get to call all
those shots. And then you have a bunch of these
people who may not be crazies, but they're willing to
do all this crazy stuff because they want the money
and the power that they can only get if they
please the people who own and operate the Democratic Party,
(25:47):
who are the crazies.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So anyway, I want to get to some of jd
Vance some more of it with Margaret Brunnan of CBS,
and again Vance absolutely brilliant and so many different ways.
I do want to get to this point though, that
I disagree with him on, and then I imagine you're
gonna have some strong feelings on this. You'll probably agree
with jd Vance, and I look forward to persuading you
(26:14):
that jd Vance is wrong on this. So here is
jd Vance criticizing the US Conference of Catholic Bishops. Is
the Catholic Church in the United States taking a formal
position on President Trump's immigration Yeah, sorry, that's not the
(26:36):
cut I intended to pull up. Let me find the cut. Yeah,
I'll find that we have so many Jdvance cuts. That's
my bad. But and there won't be time in this segment.
But what we'll do when we get to this, and
it'll be about four forty nine, is it's going to
be jd Vance being very very critical of the Conference
(26:58):
of Catholic Bishops because because they came out and they
were in part critical of some of President Trump's recent
executive orders on illegal immigration. And again, you know, my
starting point is I agree with what President Trump is
doing right now on illegal immigration. I agree with that.
(27:19):
But then we come back to this allegation of jd
Vance's that the bishop's criticism of the Trump plan is
financially motivated. And jd Vance uses the number of one
hundred million and jd Vance and you'll hear it in
his own words when we pull it up after this break.
Jd Vance is saying that, no, the Conference of Catholic
(27:43):
Bishops is opposing the.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Trump stuff they are posting they're not opposing at.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
All because of money, and that is absolutely preposterous and JD.
Vance must know that now again, if you weren't with
us earlier. I have a lot of respect and admiration
for JD.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I think he's been a tremendous candidate, a tremendous VPCE
so far. I think he'll probably be the next president
and be a tremendous president. But when he says something
that is just I believe peytently false, I believes said
for political reasons, I've got to call him out on that.
I mean, that's been my mo on era for almost
(28:23):
thirty years now, however long it had been on, which
is just.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm a true seeker. I speak the truth.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
If you think I'm wrong, well then point out where
I'm wrong. Let's have that conversation. We don't censor. I'm
fully available to you. But I think Vance is provably
wrong here. He knows he's wrong, and he was willing
to say it anyway for political reasons. And I don't
like that. Listen, I don't require or expect perfection in anybody.
(28:48):
Lord knows I'm not, and so you know, not getting
it in Jade Vance. I think he's still one of
the very best out there. I think he'll make a
great president. But when he says something it isn't true,
needs to be called on it. I'd like to think
even if I wasn't Catholic, and even if I wasn't
involved in Catholic charities, and I happen to sit on
(29:09):
the board of Catholic Charities of Denver, that I would
still call him out on this because it's so bogus.
But I'll get to that after the break eight five
five for zero five eight two five five the number
text a d an five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Our only sure reward, with history the final judge of
our deeds.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Let us go.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Forth to lead the land we love, asking his blessing
and his help, but knowing that here on earth God's
work must truly be our own.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And that's how he closed his twenty two minute inaugural
address JFK.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That's another reason why he'd be thrown out of the
Democratic Party today, right. I doubt he'd even be accepted
into the Democratic Party to begin with. And that tells
you everything you need to know about the Democratic Party.
And I talk about that because I think we're going
to be hearing more and more starting on this show.
I don't think you've heard it anywhere else, but that's
the way it often works, right. You hear something first
(30:19):
on this show, and then people say, oh, that's crazy,
and then a few months or a year later, people say, oh, yeah,
that's true, that's right, and then everybody's saying it. But
I think you're going to start hearing these JFK. Trump comparisons.
And I know they have different styles, etc. But in
terms of a president, you know, rising above it and
being regarded in America, a lot of people will regard
(30:42):
Trump well and never admitted to a polster, etc. But
of that kind of regard and that kind of Trump,
I think already has more worldwide respects slash year than
JFK ever had. But I think that we're going to,
if we're not there already, because of all these special
circumstances and Trump's amazing I am over seemingly insurmountable adversity.
(31:04):
I think we're going to be seen and hearing those
comparisons much more importantly, because really, who cares what opinion
people say is I think we're going to be living
it because Trump's going to be doing so many great things.
I do think JFK may very well have saved the
world through his great work during the Cuban missile crisis.
He screwed some other things up, but everybody screws something up.
(31:25):
But Trump, He's already doing so many things well. Which
brings me to Jadvans And if you just joined the show,
thank you. I spent a lot of time earlier, as
I have before, praising him. I want to play now
the sound from his thrashing of Margaret Brennan on Face
the Nation over the weekend, where I think he said
something false. I think he knows it was false, he
(31:46):
knew it was false at the time he said it.
I think he said it for political purposes, and I
think that's lousy. And listen all my praise of him,
and it's kind of ninety nine to one praise versus criticism.
My praise of him is meaningless if I'm not willing
to speak the truth about him when he does something wrong,
and I think he did something wrong here in particular
within this riff, when he alleges that the Catholic bishops
(32:10):
are opposing certain Trump immigration orders for money.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Let me ask this question, Let's separate the immigration issue.
If you had a violent murderer and a school, of
course I want law enforcement to go and get that
person out.
Speaker 10 (32:23):
Of course, the point of the question, you change the
regulation this week. That's the point of the question exactly
giving the authority to go into churches and go into school.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Empowered law enforcement to enforce the law. Also where to
protect Americans?
Speaker 10 (32:37):
In fact, a chilling effect arguably to people to not
send their pods to school.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
I desperately hope it has a chilling effect.
Speaker 10 (32:44):
You think the US Confidence of Catholics bishops are actively
hiding criminals.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I think the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has frankly
not been a good partner in common sense immigration enforcement
that the American people voted for.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And then where he goes from there is he talks
about the hundred million dollars. He uses that figure. I
don't know what the real figure is. I would think
it to'd be higher than that because of all the
great work that the Catholic Church, et cetera across the
country has done in the trenches to try to keep
this country together. As I've said before, you know, without
(33:22):
the great work Catholic Charities does in Denver, Denver and
Colorado fall apart.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And that's not rhetoric, that's literal.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And here speaking in Denver, Catholic Charities and the Catholic
Church in Colorado do so much with so little money,
particularly so little government money. As though it's significant, they
do so much with that money, and so much of
it goes way beyond any benefit that funding provides, and
it goes to the funding from other sources, it goes to.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Just people doing the work of Christ.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And I'm just telling you as a practical infrastructure type matter,
without that work, this state and I can speak much
more credibly to this state than I can to the
nation because I just know more about Catholic Charities in
this state. I only recently joined the board, but I've
been an admirer of it for years, and my wife
and I contributors. I'm just telling you, this state falls
(34:15):
apart without Catholic Charities. Any suggestion from jd. Vance that
the bishops are taking their positions on immigration the US
Conference over money.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Is absolutely preposterous. It's not a money maker to begin with.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean, when you talk about all the work that
goes into caring for people, whether they're here illegally or not,
all of that really hard work, etc. That the benefit
of that, the hours put in it goes so far
beyond any dollar figure. Now it is not a profit
making tool for the Catholic Church in America. And so
(34:54):
I think it was really just, and he knows it,
an untrue, illogical really in suggestion that the Catholic bishops
of this country, the Catholic Church of this country. And
by the way, the Trump team Trump doesn't win without
an overwhelming Catholic vote support. And I know we won
(35:14):
by a significant margin, but a big part of that,
particularly in key swing states, was enormous Catholic vote support.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
So to be coming out now.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And seeing one of the worst things you ever could
about a person or organization, that they're doing something bad
because of a money motive, the last people on earth
who are going to have that money motive.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
They may be right or they may be wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, we're all still human, right, And I have
so much respect for every Catholic bishop or cardinal I've
ever known, but they're all still human. They're capable of
making a mistake. But whether they're right or wrong, the
suggestion that the Catholic Bishops of America are going to
do something wrong for money, Advance has to know, and
(35:57):
particularly has to know as a Catholic, that's absently ludicrous. Now,
you can then talk about the position that the Catholic
Bishops of America took on certain of these executive orders,
and that's a fair conversation to have. But to suggest
their motive is money, that's a gutter tactic. That is
a gutter tactic that is is so false and so
(36:21):
disrespectful and really so uncalled for. Here, just debate the
broader policy. Say no, you know, we think they're wrong,
and we think they're wrong because of this or that,
and you're going to convince a very large majority of Americans,
Jay Devans, that you're right. So to suggest the money motive,
to me, that was a form of attempted intimidation. That
(36:45):
was a form of trying to punish somebody who had
spoken out against you, some powerful group that had spoken
out against you. That was a warning shot. You want
to criticize our policies, We're going to come after you personally.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
We're going to say you have money motivation.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Well, that that's the politics of left, the politics of
personal destruction. No, Jay Devance. Debate on policy. You've got
a very strong policy position. Debate on that that, don't
go attacking them personally. That that's beneath you, it's beneath
this administration. It's false and it's wrong. You're on the
Dan Kapla Show.
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