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February 23, 2025 59 mins

Zach Mack and his dad try to mend a rift between them in a very unusual way. 

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  • Prologue: Ira Glass introduces Zach Mack’s story. (1 minute)
  • Part One: Zach and his father enter into an agreement that could change their entire relationship. (9 minutes)
  • Part Two: Zach’s mother and sister weigh in on the agreement. (28 minutes)
  • Part Three: With the year coming to an end, someone is going to have to say, “You were right, and I was wrong.” Will it change anything? (16 minutes)

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