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November 10, 2025 27 mins

Twenty years ago, a genocidal campaign in the Darfur region of Sudan shocked the world. Now, videos and images of new atrocities have captured global attention once more.

Declan Walsh, who has been covering Sudan, discusses one of the worst humanitarian conflicts in decades, and how gold is fueling it.

Guest: Declan Walsh, the chief Africa correspondent for The New York Times.

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