The Redpath Mansion Murder Mystery

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Warning.
This episode includes details of violenceand murder that some listeners
may find disturbing.
June 13th, 1901, Montreal, Canada
Two or three gunshotsrang out in the halls of the mansion
that belonged to the wealthyRedpath family.

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Almost immediately, members of the familyand House staff were shocked to find
Ada Redpathand her youngest son, Clifford Redpath,
both fatally wounded.
Police were never called nor investigated.
The scene,a coroner held an inquest the day
after the incident and determinedthis to be a murder suicide.

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But is that really what happened?
I would normally say something hereabout examining the evidence
and theories to askif the inquest was correct.
And did a killer get away with murder?
However, without a proper investigate.
All the evidence is conjecture
based on the word of peoplewe may not be able to trust.

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But as one of the most bizarre murdermysteries
I've ever come across, it'sworth taking a look.
This case is shrouded in secrecy,
which only fuels the mystery.
This is a study of strange.

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Welcome to the show.
I'm Michael May.
And todaywe are discussing a Canadian mystery.
A real Canadian mystery.
So I have as a guest my second favoriteCanadian of all time, Jesse Aikman.
Hey, Jesse.
Michael May. So good to be here.
Thank you for coming on.
You're not even curiouswho my first favorite Canadian is.

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And now I am.
I was going say, Margot.
Your wife is my favorite Canadian.
Oh, well,she'll be very happy to hear that.
Thanks. Now,I don't know if I should be disappointed.
I now know I want to beyour first favorite Canadian.
I mean, honestly,now that I think about it,
I think you'remy third favorite is Michael J.
Fox. Again, I have Michael J.
Fox on air, maybe.

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Who else is Canadian? Bryan Reynolds.They're not.
They all top you, Jesse. No, I'm joking.
Joking.
Well,thank you so much for being on Jesse and.
Yeah, I wanted a Canadian on thisbecause we're dealing with
with this murder mysterythat takes place in Canada in 1901.
Before I get into that,though, you are a film producer

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and you've been sort of informally calledthe VP of Christmas at Vortex Media.
So tell us about what you do.
I run a studio here,a boutique studio here in Canada.
We distribute and
and produce films
in various different genres

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for your audience.
We actually did a film calledAnything for Jackson, which was a horror
currently on Shudder,so perhaps your audience might enjoy that.
But we also do Christmas moviesand romances and feature films.
We did a film called The End of Sex,
which is in the TorontoInternational Film Festival this year.
Really fun movie with Emily Hampshire.

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People might know her from Schitt's Creek.
Yeah. Yeah.
So so that's what I do.
And and, you know, that's a day job.
But this is more fun.
I'm excited about this. Well.
Oh, thank you so much.
He's. He's absolutely lying,but I appreciate that.
So Jesse and I go way back and.
Yeah, it's a delight to have you on.
So if you listening to the show, pleasemake sure to subscribe, rate and review.

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And in the coming weeks, we actually havea couple of big episodes coming up.
So next week is a is an off weekbecause I have a lot of research to do.
We're going to be goinginto the Connecticut Witch trials
and also some episodeson the History of Zombies.
So I'm very excited

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about thoseand make sure to subscribe and follow.
All right, Jesse, we're going to delveinto this truly mysterious case,
a real murder mystery called the Red PastMansion Murders.
This took place on the evening of June13th,
1901, in Montreal, in Canada,and two people were shot

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and killed in bizarrelike truly bizarre circumstances.
They were Ada Redpath, who is a 59 yearold widow and her youngest son,
who was in his mid-twenties,Jocelyn Clifford Redpath,
who went by Clifford Clifford.
They were both found in Ada's bedroom.
Two guns were found with them.
And the investigation that followed was itbasically there was no investigation.

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The police were never called to the scene
and it was quickly deemed a murder suicideby a local coroner.
So first, Jesse,have you heard of this at all?
I've not heard of this, butbut my mind is racing to try and trying
to figure it out already.
Oh. Good. Good luck.
Good luck,because we're going to need, like,
a real Sherlock Holmes to do itbecause there are so few.

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It honestly was very frustratingto research because I was like, Oh,
this one will be a quick little episode,will be super easy to research,
but there's so few detailsthat it gets really frustrating.
But it is. It's an incredible story,though.
Have you heard of Red Past Sugar?
Absolutely.
I passed Red Pass sugar all the time.
There's a huge red path,a sugar mill actually on my way to work.

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Nice.
So that is the same family.
So this the red path family?
They are.
It's a huge familyof sort of industrialist.
And they were one of the wealthiestfamilies at the time in the early 1900s.
And they started the first sugarmill in Canada, Red parcel sugar,
which is still going.
So and this also takes place in Montreal,which if I remember

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correctly,you were born in Montreal, right?
Born and raised.
I lived there for a nowa little less than half of my life.
Yeah.
Yeah, a good 20 years.
See, I thought you moved to Torontoas a kid.
That's really interesting.
You were born and raised in Montreal.
That's amazing. Oh, yeah. 20 years. Yeah.
And what's the famous smoked meatrestaurant that you took me to one time?

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What is thattell you? Schwartz's. Schwartz's?
Yes, yes.
Yes. A montreal staple.
That was fantastic.
So this story shares a lot of similaritieswith the Greystone
mansion murder suicidethat I did a handful of episodes ago.
For listeners that have tuned into that,that was also a very wealthy family.

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Strange circumstances of a murder.
Quickly,kind of a quick conclusion by the police.
And as much as I was telling youthat there are not many details
in this case, Jesse,so it's hard to figure out.
There still is a questionthat I think we can think about,
which is like how privilege and wealth
affects these police investigations.

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And because we don't knowwhat really happened that night,
it really could have beena murder suicide, like they all say.
But because of the wealth and privilegeassociated with this family,
we just don't know.
Like, everything was kind of hiddenand not shown to the public,
which leads to a lot of conjectureand a lot of mystery.
A quick clarification before I dive in.

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Normally, when you read about thiscase, people say it happened on June 14th.
That is not correct.It happened on the night of the 13th.
It just wasn't known publiclyuntil the 14th.
So that's where that mistake happens.
Also, there's a lot of red path mansions.
So it was really hard to actually researchwhich man
you mentioned this took placeand the mansion in question

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was built in 1870 and it was demolished
in like 1955 or 56.
A lot of mistakes are made claimingthat this was part of a different Redpath
mansion in Montrealthat actually was torn down in 2014.
It gets a little confusing because there'sthere's a lot of red pasts.
They all have a lot of moneyand there's a lot of red past mansions.

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So I'm going to go into some background,Jesse, just so we can build up
who the people are,who the players are, because.
Maybe let's do it.
Maybe someone in therewho did this a little bit.
It is a little bit.
In fact, there are some websitesthat set this up like a game, a clue.
They're like,here's the potential suspects, Here's
the potential motives to start.
This guy is not a suspect, is he?
He passed away before this happened, butthe patriarch of the family, John Redpath,

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he was a Scottish emigrant into Canadain 1816.
He was English speakingbecause he settled in Montreal,
which in Montreal is predominantly Frenchspeaking.
Correct?
Predominately.
But I don't like to get into that argument
because, you know, I could get in troubleif I.
Oh, yeah, that's definitely an argument.Definitely.
Oh, well, interesting.
Certainly he was Englishspeaking and settled in Montreal.

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He started working in construction
and you're going to have to help mewith my pronunciation.
JesseHe constructed the Shean Canal machine.
Machine? Yes, machine. Okay, great.You got it.
Got it.
So he he was one of the theI guess, contractors that helped to build
that canal and some other majorcommercial buildings and stuff.
And this is not

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you know, it's not the Panama Canal,but still a canal is a huge indent,
like that's a big feet that cutsright through the island of Montreal.
Right. Like this sort of the southern end.
If I'm thinking about a map correctlyand you can imagine somebody
that gets the deal to build a canalis going to have political connections.
It's going to have connectionswith financial institutions like he's

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building himself upto be quite quite an industrialist.
And in 1818, he married Janet McPhee.
They had seven kids.
McPhee later died of cholera.
He remarried and had ten more kidswith his next wife, Jane Drummond.
It's the 1800s.
People had a million kids back then,and there are a lot of red paths

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because of this.
So that's just interesting to think about.
By 1836, he was justone of the wealthiest people in Canada,
and he purchased 235 acres of land nearthe slopes of Mount Royal in Montreal.
And he built a home and then he divided up
that land and started selling it offand made a lot of money.

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And from that money, it saidhe took the proceeds from those land sales
to actually start Redpath Sugar in 1854,and that is still running strong.
And this became it became like a familybusiness because he got his kids in.
He had a brother in law.
They they're all working for the sugarmill and
and all very wealthy which I'm goingto say 20 more times in this episode.

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Now, his son, John James, married
Ada, one of our victims in our talein 1867.
They had five kids Amy, Peter, Reginald,Harold and Jocelyn Clifford or Clifford
as he goes by and we're going to primarilytalk about Peter and Clifford today
because the other brothers
weren't in town when theywhen the murder suicide happened.

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Amy lived at home.
So did Clifford.
So they lived with their mother,John James.
Their father had passed away in the yearsleading up to it.
So he wasn't around anymore.
But Amy and Clifford lived at home,
and Peter,the other son, would travel around
a lot for health reasons,which I will get into in a moment.

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So questions so far.
I throw in a lot of informationjust to get the background out, but it's
so it may be hard to follow. Jesse,how you doing? Questions?
I think I'm doing okay.
There are 17 kids flown out thereand we've got Amy and we've got
and we've got Cliffordand we've got Peter.
And these arethe ones that we need to think that those.
Are the ones we need to focus on.And the 17 kids was actually there.
The the previousthat was their grandfather's kids.

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But there are five kidsin this immediate family.
And it is confusing
because there's they're boththere's two johns that are dad.
So but yeah a lot of red passand focus on Amy Peter and Cliff
Now Ada the mother herselfwas from an affluent family as well.
Her father had been mayor of Montreal andshe famously had kind of like a prenup.

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And I don't know if they called ita prenup back then,
but when she got married to JohnJames Redpath, she retained the her
entire control over her own fortuneand and money and everything else. Wow.
Okay. Yeah.
And that kind of I was reading her will.
And then also Amy, her daughters willAmy was in a similar situation

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where when she got married,she retained her fortune as well.
You had access to their wills?
Yeah. Yeah.You can find their wills. Yeah.
It's like, where do you find somebody?
Will from the 19 early 1800s.
Is this like, a secret?
You can't.
You know, it's honestly justa lot of a lot of searching online and.
Wow, this is a real it'sit is kind of a famous case.
That's why I wouldn't have been surprisedif you had heard of it.

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So there are sites that actually have donethe research and post it out there.
There'll be links on my show notesto stuff like this.
Not all of it is complete,
but you can find bits and pieces of thesethings which are which are really fun.
So yeah, and also books.
I couldn't find any books on this story.
I did find a bookabout the history of Red Pass Sugar,
and they skip over the murder suicidead, rightly so, because it

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kind of feels a bit like a fluff pieceabout the family and the company.
So I'll link to that too.
I found that with the L.A.
Library, the eBooks on there.
But yeah, it was really interestinghow they skip over this murder,
which is a topic
that we will also talk about
and how no one seems to talk aboutthis case until a hundred years later.
So the neighborhood
this takes place on, I'm really curiousif you know this one, Jesse.

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So it's the square mile.
Does that ring a bellor the Golden Square mile?
I've also read it called
I. I would know it probably
better by Street or God, no, I don't.
I don't know. It got it.
So it's near Mount Royal.
It's where that the landthat John Redpath, the senior

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the grandfather had bought and I thinkMcGill University is near there
I think that's.
Yes, right now the university is actuallyat the top of Mount Royal.
Okay.
So that area, that whole area,I believe, is called the Square mile
or the Golden Square Mile.
I don't think they called itthat at the time. But it was
it was like the ritzy neighborhoodin the late 1800s and early 1900s.

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And I as you know, Jesse, I grew up in
sort of a country club communityfor a period of my life.
And it makes me think of thatbecause it sounds very incestuous.
These like wealthy familiesall living in this neighborhood, all close
together, where they're all in businesswith each other.
The daughters are marrying the sons.
They're all connected sociallyand and via blood and marriage now.

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And I can only imagine the gossipafter something like a murder
potentially takes place.
Like it had to be completely insane,what the people talked about.
And if anybody has watchedthe Gilded Age on HBO,
the guy that madeDownton Abbey makes that show
the way you're image to your neighbors
and your social circles is likethe most important thing in the world.

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And that leads to some of my theoriesabout what happened in this case,
because, yes,it was all it was all about image.
All about image,which may have something to do.
Why this was quickly swept under the rug.
All right.
So that's most of the background.
The one one sort of last bit of backgroundI'll share is health, because health
plays a major,prominent role in this case.

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Clifford, the son who was found dead,
supposedly suffered from epilepsy.
And todayepilepsy is a neurological disorder.
But historically,especially at the time of this murder,
people associate it with like insanity.
It was like, oh, if you're epileptic,you're going to be a violent criminal.
Like, that's just the way you're goingto be or you're completely nuts.

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And yes, so we think aboutthat very differently today.
And Ada,his mother, who was also the other victim,
she suffered from tons of health problems,most of which we don't really know
for certain what they were.
But like there's journal entriesfrom her daughter, Amy,
there's newspaper reportswhich are predominantly like gossip,

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but like she had everythingfrom Ulceration of the eyes, neuralgia
of the jaw, painfuljoints, melancholia, arthritis,
like she had lots of health issues,and she would spend time away
from the family in upstateNew York and various sanatoriums.
And melancholia is interesting because
back then, like it's kind of associated

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with the four humors,that medieval medical practice of like
this woman's gut melancholia.
She must be completely insane.
We could put her in bed restfor the next two years or whatever.
Like there's yeah,melancholy is very old school,
and I just I don't trust doctors backthen, so it's kind of scary.
And she primarily stuck to her her bedroomin the last few years of her life.

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Like she didn't venture out very much.She didn't socialize very much.
She was kind of just under bed rest,and she was only in her office.
Mom. Right. So, yeah.
This mother and Ada,she she died when she was 59.
So in her fifties, which is stilljust young to think about being
just stuck in your bedroombecause of health reasons.
The other sonthat we will talk about, Peter,
he eventually succumbed to tuberculosisjust a year after all this.

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So he was probably sufferingfrom tuberculosis
throughout this period of time.
And he actually would spend time
outside of of Montreal,
because the recommendation, the treatmentfor tuberculosis at the time was error.
So they'd send you to places
like New Hampshire,in Vermont and Colorado and simply,
I don't know, nice places in Europe to tryto get good air to treat tuberculosis.

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So he wasn't that's one of the reasons
why Peter did not live at home,because he was spending time
in various placestrying to treat his own ailments.
So, yeah, a lot of health problemsin this family and
yeah, Amy, because we'rewe're going to talk about Amy, the sister.
Like I mentioned earlier,she lived at home.

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She took care of the mother of Idaprimarily.
And I was reading about kind of thethe social expectations
for a woman who's unmarriedbecause she is an adult.
I think she was in her thirtiesat the time.
And the expectationwas to take care of your sick relatives
before you can get married.
So she was at home living as a spin tryst,I believe is what they called her.

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And she would take care of her sick motherwhenever she wasn't home.
Clifford, the youngest sonwho was also living at home,
would help to take care of the mother to.
And because of that, Amy Clifford and Ada,the mother, were all pretty tight.
They were all closeand got along and trusted each other.
All right.
So that was that'sthat's a lot of background. Jesse.

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I'm sorry.
That's just a lot of.
Nerve getting there.
Yeah, the tragedy. Here we. Go.
Here we go. The good stuff.
I like good stuff.
All right, so it is the night
of June 13thor sort of the evening afternoon,
sometime around five or 6 p.m..
And the story goes

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that Peter was back home in Montreal,staying at the Redpath mansion.
His family's home, and Clifford
graduated law schoola handful of years before this happened.
He went to McGill.
All the red pass are all big McGill.
They all donate moneyand there's buildings
and stuffnamed after them on McGill University.
So Clifford gone to law school at McGilland he was clerking for a local law firm.

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So he returns home in the evening aroundfive or six.
He sees Peter.
Peter sees Clifford go upstairsor to the mother's bedroom.
I don't know if it was upstairsor downstairs, to be honest.
And quickly,after Peter hears two gunshots,
he runsinto Peter runs into his mother's bedroom,

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and he finds his brotherClifford on the floor dead, a gun nearby.
And his motheralso nearby on the floor, dead.
Now, what's interesting about thisis there's kind of
two versions of this story.
The other version is similar thing.
Peter sees Cliff come home, goto the mother's bedroom, hears gunshots.

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Sometimes you hear two gunshots, sometimesyou read three, depending on the source.
You're reading about Peter and servantsbecause there were three living servants
run to the bedroomand they all see the scene of Clifford
on the ground, dead in eight,a nearby and a gun on the ground as well.
It's sorry.
Also two guns.

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The servant sees two guns on the floorand the two guns staying just there.
There's somethingabout the two guns thing, Jessie.
Just think about thatbecause it's driving me nuts,
because that to meis the weirdest part of the story.
Well, you know, did they kill each other?
That just seems weird. Like,I don't believe it yet.
I don't believe it already.
I doubt thatthey doubt the veracity of nobody.

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You haven't said that's what happened yet,
but that's the first thing that certainlyyou think about. Right?
A double suicide, right?
Yeah, it does. Absolutely.
No. Yeah, it's super bizarre. So
there are letters
between the two brothers,Peter and Clifford.
And just again, to clarify, guess there'sa lot of names and a lot of background.

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I gave.
Peter is the older son who doesn'tlive at home but was in town at the time.
Peter, as the oldest son, did not workbecause of his health, health reasons.
And that was likea big thing in the family,
like he had uncles and people
that all kind of looked down on himbecause he didn't work.
But as an oldest son, he'ssupposed to be in charge of the families
wealth and finances.

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So that's kind of his responsibilityas the eldest son.
So a lot of the lettersthat we actually have, letters
between Peter and Cliffordsince Clifford's living at home
and they do talkand they sound very friendly,
they don't sound likethey dislike each other,
but they are predominantly just talkingabout business when they communicate.
And because Peter's away from the family,Cliff like relays information

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to them like, Oh, we had a board meetingtoday, blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
We had to pay the bankour loan amount or whatever.
So there's, there's talk backand forth about money.
Very not intimate, I guess notintimate is a good way to say it.
It's primarily businessand yeah, actually let me
let me read one of those letters.

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That's probably a good idea for a podcast.
Jesse Look at me thinking on my feet,trying to produce this content.
Yes. I'm going to read here a letter from
Clifford to his brother Peter,
just to give you a senseof their relationship.
At a recent general meeting,
the directors were authorizedto increase the capital stock to $300,000.

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The issue of this new stock
is nothing more than a means of wiping outthe present bond issue.
The personal guarantee
of the present debt to the bankwas not signed by all shareholders
in order to secure the bank
or to put those shareholders who may beso unfortunate as to be called upon
to pay on their guarantee in a positionsuperior to the other shareholders.
It will be necessaryto have some first mortgage bonds.

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It is proposed to form a new companyto run a steamer down the north coast.
Mr. Drummond is getting outsidersinterest in the scheme this morning.
He has asked me if I had any intentionof joining this company.
Of course I said I did not intend to do soand he then wanted to know
if we would be willing to sellour interest in the Labrador company.

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Please let me hear your views about this.
I enclose with youherewith powers of attorney to enable me
to vote in your behalf or to sell outany stock in the if the occasion arises.
I am your affectionate brother,Jesse Redpath,
and there's a lot of these lettersthere. Now.
We'll have links in my show notes.
You can read a lot of lettersbetween the family members.

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So it's primarily talking about business.
But Cliff is reaching out to the olderbrother who's supposed to be
more in charge of this, to be like,here's the situation.
Let me know your thoughts.
And there are some theorieswhich I'll get into later
because some people suspectthat Peter was jealous that Cliff
was getting all these opportunitiesand going to the meetings and felt like

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Cliff had too much charge of the family'sfinances.
Yeah, it sounds like Cliffordthere was was basically saying
that he wants like voting rights.
He wants to basically take.
Give me power of attorney.
Yeah which would give it a lot of poweractually in the situation right.
Absolutely
So just keep
that in the back of your brainthere, Jesse.

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Sounds like Peter's jealous, but.
Okay, let's let's go on.
Yep. Yep.
Curious. My curiosity has been piqued.
Here'swhere things start to get really strange.
Police were never calledto the scene of the crime.
In fact, I can't find any evidencethat they ever went to the house.
Even in the days after this lake.
Police are just notthey're not called, not investigating.

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I even read somewhere that the policefound out about it by accident.
Like in passing,
someone mentioned something to a copand he was like, Wait, wait, wait, what?
However, the family saysthat Cliff was actually still alive.
He could not communicate.
But when they found him,he was still breathing.
So they rushed him to the nearby hospitalwhere he died that night.

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So on the night of the 13th, there is norecord in the hospital of that happening.
But that is what the family says happened.
I have a question.
Where does all this information,if there's no police reference,
no investigation,who's documenting all this stuff already?
You got a decent amount of information.
Two guns, three servants.
You're running to the stairs.

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Where does this even start? What is this?
What is the chain of evidence of this?
Because this doesn't like.You know what I mean?
This is. Yeah.
Fantastic question.So the chain of evidence
or the documentationstarts on the day of the 14th.
So the day after the the murdersuicide, quote unquote, murder suicide,
because on the 14th, the coroner comes
and brings doctorswho are all friendly with the family.

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And he the coroner holdsan inquest to determine what happened.
So that inquest is accounted for.
It is documented.
All the jurors present forthe inquest are named and documented.
They interview witnesses,which I'll get into in a second.
And then from that inquest,because that has to get released, then
the newspapers are all writing articlesand they're all predominantly

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getting informationprobably from neighbors gossiping.
So none of it can be verified,
but they're all getting information,they're writing various things.
And alsothey buried the bodies on the 15th.
So that also has to be like people noticedthat if they hadn't
heard about it within the last day,they're noticing that, wait a second,
the Redpath family is putting two membersof the family in the ground.

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So, yes. So word spreads.
It's a lot of gossip newspapers,but because of the inquest, that's
where we actually getsome sort of formal documentation.
The inquest I want to talk about a bit.
So the coroner comes the day after,like I said,
and he concludes very quickly
that what happenedwas, is Cliff went insane because of a

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of a fit of epilepsy,you know, has a seizure,
doesn't know what he's doing, shootsand kills his mom, then he sort of snaps
out of it, realizes what he did,feels regret, kills himself.
That is what the coroner concludes.
It's an interesting thoughtbecause he did have epilepsy.
So we so we think anyway.
But it doesn't really fit a lotof our modern understanding of epilepsy,

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which I've had to read a lot ofbecause I didn't understand it myself.
There are accounts where
people with seizures, they kind ofthey don't know what they're doing.
But when it comes to violent crime,it's it's such a tiny percentage
of a percentage of any of thatever being an actual case
that it definitely leadsto some doubt in that conclusion.

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The jurors at the inquestor the coroner put together,
from what I can tell,are all neighbors and friends.
So it's not it's people that may have
they're easily influenced by whatthe Redpath family
may tell them to say or think.
And we are actually going to read a scenehere, Jessie,

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this is a little recreation of whatthe coroner's inquest might be like.
So if you pull up that email.
Okay, I got it. Who am I?
So let's have you read.
Why don'tyou you're going to read two parts.
Why don't you read Peter and Dr.
Roddick? Got a seat on it.
Okay. Yeah.

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So I'll read I'll read the descriptionsand the coroner before we get into this,
let me also set this up with the coronerholds this inquest at the house.
So where the murder took place,
he calls in this jury of peers,of neighbors and friends.
He he calls up witnesses,which is not just Peter and Dr.
Roddick, but other local, well known,respected doctors that probably all live

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in this Golden Square mile areaand know the family really well.
Let's dive into it.
Are you ready?
I'm ready. Go for it.
All right.
It's the afternoon of June
14th, 1901, a day after the discoveryof the bodies of Cliff and Ada
Redpath, a group of neighborsmaking up the jury of the inquest stand
around in the foyer of the large homeand the coroner talks to the group.

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He soon gestures for Peter Redpathto come stand next to him.
Mr. Redpath, can you make your statementregarding the events of last evening?
Yes, sir.
Please speak loud enough for the jury
to hear you and pleaseinclude as many details as possible.
Like we prepared.
The coroner winks at Peter.

(29:44):
Pardon me.
Thank you.
Yesterday evening I saw my brother, thedeceased, arriving home at around 6:00.
He seemed ill and was tired,
working hard to prepare for his bar exams.
He went up to the room of my mother, Adamarie Mills, age 62,

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and a few seconds later I heard a shot
from a firearm, followed by two others.
I ran up and broke down the door.
I saw my mother lying on the floorand several feet from her.
My brother also lying in a pool of blood,
a revolver, a foot away from himnear his hand.
My brother had beenvery nervous for some time.

(30:28):
Thank you.
Can I please have Dr. Ruddickcome join me?
Dr. Ruddick and older gentleman witha full head of gray hair steps forward.
Dr. can you please provide your statementfor the proceedings?
I was called upon to confirm the death.
I am a doctor, as you all know,
and I've known the Redpath familyfor nearly two decades.
When I arrived, I found the son JoslynClifford, on the ground near his mother.

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This is Ada, passeddue to the wound on the Clifford's
left templeand the wounds to the back of it, Mrs.
Redpath said.
It's obvious Clifford pulled the trigger.
First his mother, then himself.
Clifford.
His epileptic and not responsible for hisacts before, during or after his attacks.
As a close family doctor,I am aware of his mental afflictions

(31:14):
and had to advise him to get dressed.
Very well. Very well done, Jessie.
So there's a couple of thingsthat I want to.
Do for fun.
I love.
These.
So I wantI want to point out a couple of facts.
One, Peter got his mother's age wrong,which is hilarious
because she was 59, not 62 or 64,whatever he said in the inquest.

(31:38):
I also want to let everybody know Peter'swords are from the official record. Dr.
Roddick's words.I actually didn't have his specific.
I know what he talked about,but I didn't have his specific language.
So I wrote the Dr.
Roddick part and other doctors that werethere corroborated all these facts.
They all came and gave short testimonieslike these other guys

(31:58):
and said there were two revolvers.
They said there's a gunshotto Clifford's left temple.
There's a wound to the back of Ada's head.
The coroner,whose name, by the way, was Ed McMahon,
which I just love that the coroner was Ed,maybe the same Ed McMahon, we all know,
because he was he'san old guys, was around a long time.
And the coroner,Ed McMahon, confirmed two guns

(32:21):
and he actually had them in hispossession, according to the inquest.
And he found one of the guns was missing,one one bullet, so one empty chamber.
The other gun had two empty chambers.
So that's interesting. Yeah.
And apparently so some newspaperarticles say that Clifford was shot twice.
Some newspaper articles saythe mother was shot twice.

(32:44):
I don't trust any of the newspaperaccounts.
The inquestdoesn't say anybody was shot twice.
So this is one of those detailsthat's like missing that we don't know
for sure from this case,that just makes it even more baffling
because there's two guns,three rounds have been fired,
but I think only two wounds,according to the inquest.
So what if somebody missed?
I want to know where that bullet was.

(33:06):
Like, did they find a, you know,a bullet shell, a third bullet shell?
Do they find a hole in the wall somewhere?
We know it's done.
We know which got the two bullets fired.
We don't know if it was. The gunis closer to Clifford or closer to Ada.
We don't even know if they were onewas closer to the other.
They could have beenright next to each other.
We have no idea, because no one took crimescene photos.
No one mentioned exactly where they were.

(33:26):
They just said near Clifford
that like it's it getsthis is where it gets frustrating.
Like I was talking about it.
Really frustrating to investigate this.
Also something I'd never thought aboutuntil we were reading the scene.
Peter says he had a kick in the door,which if that's true,
that's an interesting thing
because that means there may have beensome some premeditated planning

(33:48):
by Cliffordto actually cause harm to his mother
or himselfbecause he locked the door behind him.
Right.
And Peter, of course,you're saying that that came directly.
That's a direct quote.
That's a direct quote.
Yes, indeed.
And he says, I ran up and brokedown the door in that quote.
Absolutely interesting. Yeah.
And then the rest of the inquest,some of the servants were interviewed

(34:10):
and they I have their directtestimony as well.
And they said they went in with Peter.
I don't think any of them saidthey had to break down the door, though.
That doesn't meanthey didn't have to break down the door.
It just means they were like,oh, I went up and, you know,
we found the bodiesand they also confirmed two guns.
So I want to readthe verdict of the inquest.

(34:31):
We, the undersignedjurors, have heard the evidence declare
that Ada marie Mills died at Montreal
on the 13th day of June 1901,from a gunshot wound,
apparently inflicted by Clifford Clifford,Jocelyn Redpath,
while unconscious of what he was doingand temporarily insane
owing to an epileptic attackfrom which he was suffering at the time.

(34:56):
Again, our understanding of epilepsytoday is different than what
they did back then,so it seems like an easy out.
I think looking at it fromlike a modern medical eye, it seems like
they're just blaming him very quicklyfor this terrible, terrible situation.
I actuallyI want to read here another thing.
This is from a paper that I found.

(35:16):
It was published by a handful of academicsfrom Harvard and McGill University
and a few others.
And what they sort of surmise,I just could never say it
this well, so I want to read it.
This was the official record,but it is far from the whole story.
The Redpath mystery is defined by secretsand contradictions.

(35:36):
Barely legible today,and a trail of material and textual clues.
If the coroner's inquest solvedthe mystery, why are there no suicides
on record in the city of Montrealfor June 1901?
Why is there no mentionin family documents of Clifford's epilepsy
before the shootings, especially inAmy Red Pass extensive diaries?

(35:57):
Is Peter's testimony trustworthy?
And where was Amyat the time of the shootings?
Still, the coroner's report is the onlyofficial record of the double shooting.
Both bodies were buried within 48 hours.
So, yes, the other pointthere is Amy, who lived at home
and took care of her mother.
There is no mention of her in anything.

(36:19):
She lived at home.
Where was she?
She was didn't seem to be at the inquest.
She didn't seem to be therewhen all this happened.
That is one of the other baffling
pieces of information with this case.
Yeah.
Yeah. See? Never investigating it, Amy.
Amy says, Well, no, no record of her. Yes.

(36:42):
And just in case you're thinking
somebody wanted to off the mother and,you know,
maybe Clifford tried to or PeterCutcliffe were trying to hurt the mother.
Maybe there's a financial gain, right?
To inherit moneyfrom the mother in the will.
Ada left her fortune,split it equally with all her kids.
So I just think not that that

(37:02):
prohibits somebody from doing somethingterrible to inherit money,
but you would thinkif somebody was doing it,
at least my initial thought isthey want control over the whole fortune,
not just in equal piece of whatall the kids get.
Also, Amy lived in the house
until she died,So Amy actually inherited the property.
It's not Peter,
because a lot of people think Petermay have done this for financial gain.

(37:23):
So Amy actually inheritedthe house. So, Jesse, what happened?
Solve it for us.
That's why you're here. You're.You're a montrealer.
You got this.
Okay. Okay.
I've got a couple of theories so far.
I'm wondering if there's informationthat you're
that you're holdingwithholding from us, though.
Michael never do something like that. But.

(37:44):
Okay, so. Maybe I am.
But maybe you are.
I think I need a little bitmore information.
However, I do have some theories.
Theorynumber one is Clifford goes upstairs
and the mom
kills Clifford
drops a gun.
There to make it look like it's

(38:07):
that there's, like,you know, set up a situation
where it's like a double suicide.
And then she calls herself
I'm not sure about the financial gainaround that necessarily,
but I have a feeling it has to do withsomething about family power
and the dynamics in the family.
And I obviously don't know.
The mom'spsychology has definitely gone into that.
But theory number one is the mom did it.

(38:30):
Theory number two,since we've got two bullets discharged
because of two,that doesn't only answer the two bullet
discharge thingunless mom misses the first time.
Right, Right, right.
And then you know whatyou could see, right? Maybe. Yeah.
I don't know.
You could see thatthere'd have to be a reason for this. And.
But it's kind of a out theretheory, right?
Because it's more right and it's a kid,so I don't know.

(38:53):
But still, that's theory number one.
Theory number two is third man theory.
There's somebody else.
Somebody else went in there and he
he didn't.
He didn't he missed the first time,like he gets maybe Clifford
maybe misses Adaor the versus the vice versa
and then and then eventuallygets the second person.

(39:15):
So there's three bullets dischargedand then that person puts two guns down
again, just so that,
you know,they don't know what happened or why.
So it's
but I'm going for thefor the single shooter theory on this one.
That's not one of those two. Interesting.
Possibly even Peter,because he was the one who ran upstairs

(39:38):
and kicked openthe door. He's given his own account.
There's nobody else there.So Peter's in the house.
So Clifford's upstairs with the mom.
Peter fabricates this whole thing.
Peter goes up off, you know, the brother,because the whole financial thing
that we talked about before,maybe Mom walks in, sees him
shooting, and then, oh, shit in like,you know, he's panics,

(39:59):
shoot his mom by accident,you know, and gets the first shot off.
But but, you know,
the two shot theory there again, right?
Like one shotkind of goes misses or something,
but he panics so it's it's a Peter
so that's the Peter shot and both theory.
It's. Nice that that was my two theories.

(40:21):
No those are fantastic.
And what I love about this is those arekind of the predominant theories.
And that's so interesting becauseyou didn't know this case before today
and that I thinkthat's an important thing to note.
When somebody new to the case
and they bring up the theoriesthat kind of already exist,
it gives them a little more validitythat they may,
you know,something like that may have happened.

(40:42):
There is the only informationI haven't shared, and it's only because
I have a ton of notesand kind of accidentally skipped it.
But it is a little bitabout the headspace,
the mental makeup of Clifford,which again, because details are scarce,
this family also after this happened,they were tight lipped.
They did not talk to newspapers.
They didn't put this informationin diaries.

(41:04):
There is a family member that wrote a play
like a like a fake versionof what happened that night.
But she based on other popular stories,
like it wasn't it obviously was not a truestory of what happened.
But outside of that,the family never talked about it.
Even that red pastsugar book that I told you
I found in the library, they did.
The whole history of the companyskips over this

(41:26):
like just completely skips over it
because the Red Passfamily wants to keep it quiet.
But anyway, the mental makeup of Clifford,
like I said, he was a clerk at a law firm.
He had graduated from law school.
He had actually just signed up very,I think, two days
before the murdersuicide happened to take the bar exam.
And he was studying for it andhad been studying it for it for some time.

(41:49):
And so there are people that theorizemaybe the murder suicide is
is a real thingbecause the amount of stress and pressure
that he was feelingwith the bar exam, with work and also
taking care of his motherfrom time to time, could have
I don't know,just if he felt like it was too much
and he was overcome with somethingand he had health problems.

(42:10):
I don't necessarily buy into thatbecause I know plenty of people
that have been stressed outbecause of the bar exam
and have kids and jobsand everything at the same time.
It doesn't automatically meanyou're going to go and ask somebody.
To me, it's a bit of a leap,especially when there's no other records
to say that he was suffering from
depressionor crazy stress outside of Peter

(42:33):
at the inquest being like,Oh, he's he's had a rough go of it.
He went upstairs GUNSHOT You know, like,I don't know.
Yeah, it's,
it's just an important detail
to know though that he,he was getting ready to take the bar exam.
Yeah.
This predominant theoryis Jessie you hit on him
is the mother
did it and she was suffering from, again,quote unquote.
Melancholia had a lot of health problems.

(42:54):
Maybe she didn't know what she was doing.
Maybe she was a total V.A..I was home. Yes.
They're all guesses, though.
They're all guessesbecause it is a little details,
but the mom could have started it.
Clifford retaliatesor tries to protect himself.
Everything goes haywire.
Peter did it.
Yeah, those are those are the main thingsPeter to be saying.

(43:15):
Really? That's the two guns. Two guns.
Throws it all out of whack.
If it was one gun, I might just be like,Look, simple answer is usually true.
It's probably a murder suicide.
We don't know what they were dealing with.
We don't know the truthabout their relationship.
Maybe Clifford really did
go in and kill his momand then turned the gun on himself.
But the two guns said. That waswho said it.
Let's rewind for a sec.

(43:36):
Who said there was two guns?
Where's that evidence?
It's in the inquest. So it's.
But one of the servants says it aswell as I think every doctor mentions
two guns and.
The coroner had two multiple,multiple people.
Multiple people.
However, because you are questioning itand because details are scarce,
all thosenone of the doctors were there that night.

(43:57):
Dr. Roddick, who claimedthat he went to investigate the bodies.
He didn't show up until the 14th,when apparently Cliff
had already gone to the hospital,which we also don't have a record of.
So I don't knowif anybody really saw the two guns
except for Peter potentially,and the servants.
But they all say two guns.
So it's yeah, it's an interesting thing.

(44:19):
In fact,let me read some of the newspaper accounts
because the newspapers came upwith all their own theories.
So the first one I'll readhere is from the Calgary Herald,
and this is on the 14th, I think it waspublished before the inquest happened.
The son of Mrs.
Rand Redpath died at the hospitalshortly after midnight.
The family refused any information
and even the policeonly heard of the matter by accident.

(44:41):
Mrs. Redpath was afflictedwith nervous trouble and it is surmised
her mind had become affectedand she attempted to take her life.
The son probably losing his lifein an attempt to save her.
The sun was a bright fellow of 24,had just graduated at McGill, deceased
was the widow of John Redpath, founderof the Big Sugar business.
So they thatthat newspaper account is sinking.

(45:03):
The mother may have been committingsuicide and Cliff tried to stop her.
But again, two guns,are they just all carrying
everybody in the familylike I don't know stated it's
another
paperwrites Surprised by the sound of shots.
The family immediately ran into the room
and found the mother dyingand the brother fatally wounded.
Mr. Redpath was taken by ambulance toVictoria Hospital as quickly as possible

(45:28):
on arriving at the hospital.
He was cared for by Dr. Belland the absence of Dr.
Roddick, the family doctor.
But notwithstandingall of the resources of science,
the young man did not
regain consciousness, so it was impossibleto obtain an explanation.
He died at around 1130so that when I wrote down,
because that was onethat says he went to the hospital,
which we have no record of that actuallyhappening from the hospital itself.

(45:51):
And this last one I'll readthis was published in Halifax.
Investigation by the coroner's
jury today put a new lighton the Redpath tragedy of yesterday.
The evidence showed that Mrs.
Redpath had been shot twice.
So this is one
that says shot twice,
once in the back of the head, andthen a second time in the right shoulder
while the bullet had entered young Redpathhead to the right of the left temple,

(46:12):
the jury brought in a verdictthat the young man had killed his mother
in a fit of temporary insanitybrought on by an epileptic.
Epileptic, epileptic.
There we go. That's the word fit.
And then taken his own life. So, yeah.
So you see some some various accountsand all the newspapers,
they're not getting thisfrom the Redpath family.
They're not getting this from the police,because the police are never called.

(46:33):
They're getting this from gossipand potentially the people
that were in the jury.
So, yeah, theories,theories are everywhere, man.
Theories are absolutely everywhere.
And the epileptic thing just it's it'sjust it's a bit of a faux pas to say
somebody went insane and killed somebodybecause they were epileptic.
That is that seems like a stretch.

(46:54):
Yeah.
Back then that was consideredkind of the normal thing.
And then in the 19th centuryespecially, people thought people
that suffered fromseizures were born criminals.
That was a quote I read somewhere.
So yeah, modern studiesdo do contradict that.
That theory though.
And if anybody knows any bitmore about violent crime

(47:15):
with people that suffer from that,I would love to hear more.
I did a lot of reading on it.
I won't go into all of it nowbecause it's just over head.
But if anybody out there
has stats on that, please email meat a study of strange at gmail.com.
All right.
There is there's some other theoriesto think about.
Jessie, other people present.
So I'll just run throughsome of those real quick.

(47:35):
There are rumors that Cliff was homosexualand you have that societal pressure,
not just because their wealth,but also just the time.
And that could have contributedto a situation
where he probably wanted to come outand to his mom who disapproved
and he commits suicideand she tries to stop him and gets shot.
And in in between all that,

(47:56):
there is that theory that I mentionedin paper where the mother tries
to kill herself because she is sufferingfrom so many health ailments.
Cliff tries to stop her,the gun accidentally goes off,
maybe Cliff gets shot in.
The mother still commit suicide,something like that.
There are people that suspectthat Amy was involved
because she is the one that is notbrought up in any of this.
And she's also was.

(48:17):
One that actually after you, you know,did that, I was thinking to myself,
you know,we got this all wrong. Amy, the culprit.
Amy shot them both, set the whole thingup, and they just kept it quiet.
It's an interesting thing to think aboutbecause Amy is
who a lot of people thinkkind of kept this all quiet,
people saying that she's the onewith the local connections

(48:38):
that was able to get either the hospitallike if if Cliff went to the hospital,
she didn't want a record of it.
So she told them not to keep a record.
She's also the one that sort of hadthe family keep quiet about
the whole thing so that no one was talkingto the papers and spreading rumors.
And she also basically organizedthe whole burial at the cemetery
just a day after the inquest

(49:00):
and got that going to sort of putpressure on and have it move very quickly.
So Amy is interestingand she's also the one that
we have a lot of detailsabout family, her life,
because She kept a diaryand a lot of her diaries.
I actually think they're keptat McGill University.
So her diaries are still there.
They've published a lot of her post,both in the years up to this and after it.

(49:22):
So but she never saysanything bad about her mother.
She never says anything badabout her brothers.
She never has any sort ofill will towards her family again.
So says the diaries.
But she seems to be a very caring person.
She even talks about like crying,
seeing her brother offto the train station when he leaves town.
Like she'sshe seems very connected to the family.

(49:43):
So just it seems to be a leap for me.
But it is interestingthat she's the one that's not in
any of the documentation around the murderwhen she lived at home.
And then, of course, the theorythat Peter may have been up to something.
Some people suspect that Cliff actually
went to Ada's roomto tell her a secret about Peter.
So maybe there was somethingPeter was doing that was a big no no,

(50:06):
and the mother would have disapproved.
And he ran in and often both, you know,in a fit to keep his secret quiet.
I don't.
I feel like that's such a jump.
However, Peter was there.
Two guns.
Two guns again, Two guns.
It's just. It's so weird. It's so weird.
So. Yeah.
And those are those are kind of the maintheories around it.

(50:30):
Amy, Peter, Cliff, the mother.
There doesn't seem to be a theorybuilt around
some unknown gunman that we don't know,like a break in or something.
There's seems to be no evidence for that.
But again,we don't know the evidence, Jessie.
We don't know the evidence.
Yeah,
it's a bit it's a bit frustrating,but it's fun to think.
Are we going to get to the endthis podcast and not figure it out?

(50:52):
We don't get to know the answer.
There's no answer.
Look, you're going to write a bad reviewon Apple podcast about this aunt.
You know, we aren't going to knowthe answer because I thought.
We were going to know the answer.
No, no, we were going to know.
There is there'sno there's literally way to figure it out.
This is one that it justit was such a strange mystery.
I wanted to spend time on itand see if I could get

(51:14):
a different perspective and I don't thinkI can because there's so much missing.
It's like unless we can actually timetravel or hire a real Sherlock Holmes
who can just like listen to informationfrom a room and solve a crime.
Like, it's it's so it's it's impossible.
I'll simply put it that way.
It is impossible to solve,but two guns, Jesse.

(51:37):
Two guns. I can't give up on that.
You know what? I think?
You know what? I'm going with Peter? That
if I.
You know what? That's. That's my theory.
After all of this talk, I'm going withPeter did it and and it was covered up.
You know why. He did it, But Peter did it.
So here's what's interesting.
I wrote down for myself in my outline herethat I think Cliff did it,

(51:58):
that there is some truth to the murdersuicide.
However, after doing this with you today,
I actually disagreeafter going through all this
a second time, I actually amkind of leaning towards Peter.
I think something was going out.He didn't work.
He had his own health issues.
He was jealous of some kind of,you know, all the breaking.
Down the door thing.
Yeah, that'swhat we that's that's the piece.
Because it feels like that'sthe kind of thing you make up

(52:20):
when you're making up a story.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
Like I had a bust inand get to say also, the two.
Of them didn't killlike the mob didn't kill Cliff.
And then I went up, and Clifforddoesn't go up there and says,
Oh, wait a second, Peter, we'll see youthen. I'll be back in a sec.
And he goes upstairs, Pop, pop.
And then you know he's dead.That doesn't make any sense either.
No, no.
And I think if it was a murder suicidefrom Cliff, if Cliff went in,

(52:42):
he was eitherthe fit of a seizure or whatever else,
whatever mental reason for himwanting to do this.
If that was true, I don't understand.
Two guns.
The two guns thingthrows that out of whack.
Yeah.
And also,if the mother was committing suicide
and he tried to stop her,why is he whipping out a gun first?

(53:02):
Is he does he carry guns?
That doesn't seem likely.
And why would he have pull outanother like. Yes.
So that doesn't fit either.
So I think Peter had something to dowith this.
And I think Peter, his own influence,he can influence how the servants see
the scene, he can influence what they say,he can influence what the doctors say.
I think there's something here to Peter.
And that brings meto kind of our last point, Jesse, which is

(53:25):
what can we learn from this by studyingthis case?
And look, I don't know for certain,but I do have to say there is something
to consider with classand wealth and privilege, especially back
then in a situation like this,you can keep the reporters quiet.
You can influence that determinationof the coroner.

(53:46):
You can influencehow closely the police will investigate.
If this if this wasn't a wealthy family,what would the police have done
if they didn'tfind out about it for two days?
I think they would have still come inand bust the door down and drawn sketches
if they couldn't take picturesand really look at it.
But because it's the red pass,I think they were just like, well,
Governor says it was a murder suicide,so let's move on.

(54:09):
Let's go to Tim Hortons and get a donut.
Coffee.
It's Canada given given.
Him existed back then.
No, no,they definitely did not did not exist.
They they got on their moose and rode.
I just trying to think of stereotypicalCanadian things.
They got on their mooseand rode to the crime scene.
Do you all have pet moose?

(54:29):
That's right.
Of course you do.
Or moose?
Yeah, I have a I have a single pet moose.
Nice, nice. Good for you.
Good for you.
Yeah.
So and also,I think it says something in the book
that I've mentioned that
I found about the history of the red pastsand the Red Pass Sugar company,
how it just skips over this entirely,
because I think
they would have had influence over someonewriting a book about the family too.

(54:50):
And I think that goes intosome of it as well.
So yeah. Jesse, what are your thoughts?What are your final thoughts?
I know you didn't get to solve the case.
Well, it definitely feels like a coverup of sorts, There's no question.
So I agree.
Your theoryaround wealth and privileges. Yeah.
Feels very
well foundedand well thought through and researched.

(55:10):
So, you know, obviously,we're not going to solve it here today.
But I think we've gotten
we've gottenwe've gotten kind of far in the case.
I think I feel I feel like I can leavewith at least a little bit of satisfaction
that like
I think I know what might have happenedand that maybe that's good enough.

(55:31):
I mean, it has to be and I'm sorry,because I thought, yeah, I just
it has to be.
But that's kind of what drew me tothis case is the
the craziness of the lack of detailsand how frustrating it was to research.
But yeah, I think I feel like youI feel like we understand it a little bit
better and a little bit better than most
because there are so many contradictionsto the details out there.

(55:52):
So I feel like I understand ita little bit better.
Well, I feel like you did your research,like there was a lot to research this
so that what you're bringing forthis clearly
I mean, they had all the archivesand stuff that you would have had to read
just to present the informationas it's presented.
So I feel good about my theory.
Oh, good.
I feel good about it.
And on that note, listeners,if I got anything wrong

(56:13):
and you know more information than me,I am always okay with that
and I want to hear about itbecause we can do a follow up.
So email meat a study of Strange at gmail.com
and let me know what I missed or got wrongbecause there's there's
a lot of other details in this casethat I had to skim over for time
sake, Jesse So I tried to focus onwhat I thought was the most important.
But there are, there are other people.

(56:34):
There are there is other informationabout the family and stuff like that.
But there you have it.
All right. Well, Jesse,thanks again for joining me.
And do you want to plug anythingyou want to share?
Share with peoplewhere they can find you, find movies,
find some of thethe stuff that you're doing.
Well, thank you for having me.This has been super fun.
I'm on Tik tok, Add my name,Jesse Aikman, and I like putting out

(56:56):
content about films.
So if anybody's interested in in film,you can find me there.
Yeah.
And you can find Vortex Media's movies.
A lot of placeslike Lifetime and Hallmark and
you guys get a lot of movies.
If you like Christmas movies,they're on Hallmark again, like, Cool.
Well, thank you so much.

(57:16):
Jesse and I will talk to you soonand that'll do it for the show.
I want to make onequick clarification here before I wrap up.
When I mentioned that Cliffordhad signed up to take the bar exam,
some theories present that as a reason why
Clifford would not have committed suicide.
He was putting so much effort
and thought and time and moneyinto signing up for the bar exam.

(57:39):
That's just another side of the cointhat we didn't get to talk about.
I wanted to mention itbecause it is a a very good point
and something to think aboutin this truly bizarre case
that I don't thinkwe're ever going to fully solve.
Thank you all for listening.
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(58:24):
I got wrong, thingsI got right, all sorts of fun stuff.
Feel free to reach out.
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We are going to have down weekthe week after this episode publishes.
I am in the throes of a lot of research
on some really fun episodes,including the history of zombies
and the Connecticut Witch Trials,which I am at.

(58:47):
Just honestly,I am very excited, so that'll do it.
I've been talking too much.
Thank you again and goodnight.

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