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November 19, 2025 47 mins

"Please picture me in the trees... before I learned civility." This week, we're deep diving one of folklore's most haunting and emotionally complex tracks: "seven." By popular request from our listeners, we explore this fan-favorite song that captures childhood innocence, the weight of adult responsibilities placed on young shoulders, and the bittersweet process of looking back at formative moments that shaped who we've become. From cross-your-heart promises to haunted houses, we unpack how Taylor Swift captures the complexity of childhood experiences that are simultaneously innocent and deeply serious.

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Mentioned in this episode: 

Peter Pan 

Aaron Dessner interview with Vulture

folklore: the long pond studio sessions 

Unreliable narrators Substack

Ring Around the Rosie and the Black Plague

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Episode Highlights

[00:40] Introduction and After School program announcement

[08:55] "Please picture me in the trees"

[12:10] “Feet in the swing”

[23:15] The bridge: "And I've been meaning to tell you"

[35:00] "Before I learned civility, I used to scream ferociously"

[50:10] Purpose discussion: What is this song really about?

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