Ep 50: The Self - Genius, Madness, Colliding Worlds, the God Molecule, and the Fear Igniter

The more we attempt to make sense of the world at the moment, the more confusing everything becomes. Up is down, left is right, and it’s feeling a lot like the inmates are running the asylum. But in a mad world is being crazy simply a matter of perspective? What do the words mad, crazy, or insane even mean?

With aspects of physical reality colliding left, right and centre, Jost and Leon get onboard the crazy train to try and decode not just what’s happening, but what we can do about it. Jost discusses his ‘mad’ past as a drug user, smuggler, hippy and outcast and the baffling recent developments in Germany as they simultaneously enter into a ‘pre-war’ phase and legalise marijuana. He also gets into the need to combine Eastern internal energy development with external Western strength training, how the focus on materiality moves us away from both the self and ultimately the soul, and the power of fear as a catalyst for evolution. Leon talks about the thin line between creativity and craziness, and the importance of being yourself when it comes to cultivating and sharing your passion with the world. Jost and Leon also talk about the superpowers of D3, Rupert Sheldrake and the morphogenetic field, Navy SEALs, and the surprising connection between spirituality and survival skills. 

The more crazy and unstable things become the more fear and uncertainty increase, but these things are necessary for us to discover who we really are and what we’re capable of. We can’t have an incredible gift without a corresponding weakness or liability, so it’s our job to dig deep, face our fears, and become ourselves. 

 

For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Episode Transcript

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Music.

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Oh, you've seen many points, my God. It's just so much.
It's a silly question. Is there anything you want to talk about today?
It's just, I wouldn't even know where to start.
There's so much going on. Because I'm obviously talking to Germany.
I'm talking to my friends in Germany. I'm talking to my family in Germany.
So the Chancellor of Germany now declared this time no official pre-war era.

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So it's now no potential war.
They call it a pre-war. How do they know that?
They're basically talking war all day. Right. And they're basically preparing everyone.
Usually, historically speaking, pre-war is something you retrospectively talk about.
You go pre-war era because the war hadn't happened yet. Yeah,

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it's totally. But now they're like, oh yeah, when the war happens.
Yeah. If, right. Okay. Well, that's good. Yeah.
Now that obviously one of the Biden admin staff is
deciding to put Ukraine into the the nato that's obviously
okay because it's the thing that we know is the
primary reason why putin is at the

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start like the war right is because of the nato thing and so they're like
yeah let's do that everything is just stirring up
yeah and then on top of it obviously anyone who wants to listen to the last
brett weinstein podcast is john ryan about this famous pathologist yeah about
the just when you think you know about what the vaccines are doing in terms
of damage listen to that podcast which came out last week,

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which is the end of, yeah, just beginning of April.
So, yeah, then you just, boom, there's a new awakening.
The patterns, they develop because now they've got three years of observation.
And they can see now that there's a foreign protein introduced into the body
of those who receive the vaccines.

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And those develop into patterns. And now you've got new proteins in the body. and so.
Proteins, as they're outlined in the podcast so well, is when you have an injury,
the body immediately repairs the damage and uses the proteins derived from the body.
And then you have a scar and then eventually it's disappeared.

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But now you've got proteins in the body that actually will develop something new.
And obviously there he
he talked about that there are all kind of toxic
dna traces because when they did this vaccine they
rushed it so heavily and then they took
obviously from animals and things like that and then they cut the sequences

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short in order to make things fit yeah it's just like incredible however obviously
from my perspective from a china's medicine perspective I knew all along that
it's targeting the jing, the kidney. Yeah.
And that's what DNA refers to from a Chinese medicine perspective.

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It's a jing. And it's an information that is partially cosmic and partially
material from the body derived.
So we call it the prenatal jing, the postnatal jing.
So that's all affiliated with the information that is actually from the cosmic source,
God source or whatever you want to call it, that is actually instrumental for

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actually creating the body in
the first place because no one really knows exactly what's going on here.
As Rupert Sheldrake in the famous development of the morphogenetic field idea
has postulated that the protein that are produced in the cells of the hand are the same as in the toe,

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but it's not a toe that's growing on your hand.
No, that's right. And so he postulated that there's a field around it and the
protein that are developed are actually put into a field.
It's like you're blowing up a balloon, and whatever happens within that balloon,
obviously, will be placed in conjunction with the constraint of the balloon.

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That's like the field. So you can't, whatever is within the balloon can't be
outside the balloon, yeah?
And so the morphogenetic field idea is that there's an energy field,
which is like the balloon, and then all the biological processes within the
balloon, actually then what they
produce in terms of proteins in order to create something will be put.

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Within that balloon so you have the shape already created
so so but now
everything is just really in an uproar because
there are new new proteins now
entering the body that no one really knows what to do about it yet yeah and
this too which is just this it's like this because i was in the same podcast
and it was i didn't get to this point yet because i was already blown away i

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don't want to pull over because i was trying to understand what they're talking
about that it's it's not Not only was this introducing this foreign substance,
this stuff, and this hell-bent directive to keep developing this platform,
even now it is the safety signals have been triggered since day one in 2020. But that there's like.
Diet and lifestyle and those other aspects already were almost

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weakening our body to begin with
so they're already and the thing they mentioned that
i kind of was quite surprised and when you talk
about this too is d3 what d3 actually is and you also
refer to it as vitamin where it's not actually a vitamin it's a
pre-hormone pre-hormone i didn't i've never heard this before this is
i mean i've been taking d3 for years now and this is the first time i've heard
that and also that one of the ways ways

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to disable that is to eat high fructose corn
syrup and shitty food yes and like 80 of the
food in america is full of this stuff so like it's it's
just you know it's so hard not to
see some intention there or just it's it's a series of
unfortunate events or follies that it'd
be so hard to see exactly now it's it's it's amazing

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that from every angle it was having someone who's
going into this week already who are eating foods that that disable this
this this basically hormone pre-hormone then there's the injecting of some other
substance so we don't know what it does on the outside and into the body and
then all the other crazy practices of wearing masks and other things and and

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it just seems like this from every point of view there's nothing that wasn't done.
Poorly or wrong and then it's so very hard to see
it as an accident and i struggle i'm struggling quite
a lot with that it's quite i'm kind of speechless i wouldn't think i would be
but i don't sound naive about it but everyone a lot of people left the conclusions
early on that you know this is a bioweapon this is not intentional and this
and that and even through everything it was so hard to believe that that was

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done on purpose it was like well and as he pointed out in that interview he
said that 99% of doctors aren't immunologists they don't understand.
Immunology in the immune system which is also like i get it
but also it's shocking to hear that where you go to a doctor
and they're a specialist in a certain field but they don't understand how the immune system works
or they have an individual speciality or

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a place they focus on or they look at a certain aspect oh
it must be your one this one area here and isolate we talk a lot about what
happens when you isolate things you isolate a diet or isolate a certain aspect
or isolate that and you don't understand the whole and if we don't understand
how to fix it or what's going wrong so there's this ignorance or just a lack
of skill understanding of how that whole system works works,

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and then this all rolls out and then they're telling us that this is the one,
one step solution to everything.
So it just, yeah, I'm, I'm struggling with formulating in the words on what
I think about that, but it's.
Yeah. We are. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's pre-war talks.
Yes. Well, pre-war. It's war.
So when the German chancellor said we are pre-war era, I, I nearly texted him

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and said, hey, you got it wrong. We are fully in the war. Right. Right.
It's the aspects of the physical world
is colliding left right and center yes and there's
no it's molecules going crazy yeah yeah
and and and hitting each other and causing all
kind of like free radicals and all kind of other spin-offs and so it just and

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therefore creating new vibration new frequencies and then you're trying to make
sense of it and and it doesn't add up anymore no well it's like putting everything
in a cocktail shaker and then just it's someone's...
Yeah, just like... Kind of gentle, but I think it's getting like...
It's like the good old days when you do the party, you know,
like someone has got an idea to do something, you know, after you've smoked
and copped a bunch of pot and drinking a little bit of tequila. Right.

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And then you're just going to put everything into a pot to see what happens. Right, yeah.
You know, you're going to... Okay, is this something that...
Yeah, yeah, that's what we did. Yeah, that's what I was... I didn't go to these kind of parties.
Back in the day. So you put... Maybe you had the good old days.
Yeah, yeah, put whatever you thought, you put in kidney beans, oats.
Yeah, it sounds like a, what do you call that, stews where you just put everything.
Yeah, yeah, put everything in there and see what happens, you know.

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Put something green in there, what you found in the floor.
Could be grass, could be weed, yeah. And just, yeah, and put it all together.
And then it turns into something that looks like a mixture.
And then you heat it up so it looks official. Yeah. And then you put it in the bowl and eat it.
But in the day, you know, you explore all kind of stuff to see what happens.
And I think that's what we're experiencing now. Now, it's just like,

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it's almost like what we, back in the day, did the crazy drug escapade.
And in order to explore the madness of reality, now we actually see without drugs outside.
Looks about the same. Yeah. Yeah. And then at the same time,
a few days ago, Germany finally made 50 grams of marijuana and hashish legal.

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Legal. They legalized marijuana. around it. They realized, so you're not allowed
to have 50 grams every day.
And they did parties in the parliament and all the MPs were standing outside
and people outside were smoking joints and it was televised all over the country.

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It was for a two-day party.
So, whole Germany was just completely going up on smoke. Yeah.
And is that, what do you think that's, is that because like,
like, fuck it, why not do that?
What do you think the- Everything has gone so crazy, so why not legalize this?
Right, just add that in. Why not do that? Yeah.
Or maybe just trying to like- You can't save it anyway. It's too late.

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Maybe it's trying to get everyone to chill out a little bit. Chill everyone out.
Well, it's like the whole oxygen masks in planes. And supposedly it's like,
it doesn't matter. It's just to make you a bit high.
So if you're going down, or so it has to make it up anyway. Anyway,
yeah, like something to do with you losing oxygen.
Dirty oxygen on the legal side. It's like just try and chill for a bit before the plane crashes.
Chill, Scott. It's like it's for your own safety. It's like,

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no, no, it's just like stop screaming while the, you know.
Yeah. Yeah, it's so, it seems to me like when I heard that, that marijuana is
legalizing, that Germany has not legalized, 25 you can carry with you in the
day in the streets and 50 grams at home.
That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah. What is that for? Like how many joints is

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that? Back in the day, when we started, we got done with three grams.
Three grams? Oh, yeah. A good friend of mine got thrown into jail just for two
grams. Okay. And this is- Yeah, he had six months jail.
Right. So for me, as an ex-SIPI and just really exploring the psychedelics of
the world in Germany, when he was so restricted with the laws,
that was like unheard of.

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If someone would have said, you will see a day where there will be 50 grams legal. Like 25 times.
That's two ounces. That's almost two ounces. So you can actually carry an ounce
and go to the police station, roll it up, and say, how are you going,
mate? Oh, they'll probably join in, apparently, by the sounds of it.
We've got nothing to do anyway. It's all right. But the fact is that most of

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the MPs actually joined in.
So just like- This doesn't seem very German to me, but I don't know.
Maybe I don't know much about Germany. Yeah, that's why I'm sort of surprised.
Well, everything is just like another one of those factors where it sort of
scratched my head and thing.
That doesn't seem to make any sense. It seems like nonsense.
No sense is this defense.
Yeah. There's got so many problems going on and so many challenges and they

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spend like years legalizing, which is a good idea anyway, because you got it. It's bullshit.
It is crazy. The amount of like this, this war on drugs. Yeah. It's just done your own.
I've never seen any good from that, you know, because if you want to smoke,
you smoke, you know, I never bothered about the law, you know,
back in the day, I made it happen.
And you know i smuggle it into jails and

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things like that because my friends didn't have it in jail so i made
sure they're gonna have some good stuff and you know so i was fully aware that
this is not an accepted behavior pattern in japan to to smuggle me into the
jail but that's what you do because you just forget the law and you transcend
the law so people understand that there's.

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You really are motivated from within, yeah? Yeah. And then you always make it happen.
Like smuggling is like an incredible skill because you really have to go into your inner world.
And then when you pass the customs or the police officers or whatever,
you have to be really in a state. Yeah, like a yogi practice. Yeah, full on.

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You're in a full on, some sort of ninja state, yeah?
Yeah. And so the internal path became very evident during those practices,
which later was a benefit to me.
When I got into Chinese medicine, I had to do the pulse diagnostics and learning
all kinds of other skills that needed to transcend the references of the external.

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I had to go and rely on what is from within.
Then actually those practices actually have some sort of contributing factor
in order to master this. I found it actually worked good in that regard. Yeah.
So, but like when I was a hippie and I was an outcast and I was roaming the streets and having,
you know, fighting cops in demonstrations and we were the mad people and we

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were often in the newspapers and we were looked at the mad people. Yeah.
Like, I'm just so organized in my life with every day.
I look at them and say, I was actually never mad.
You guys are mad. Right, yeah. Well, I always wonder that, like,
what is crazy you mean? Yeah, yeah.
You look back and you go, that was a crazy talk, a crazy behavior.

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And you go, oh, that was actually true.
Just because I smoked some pot, I was mad. Just because I had my VW van covered
in 50 colors, it was considered mad.
And now what you see, what the external world is doing, that's beyond.
Oh and encouraging that and then saying you're mad if you
don't accept it or you go against it you're you're weird or
you're you know too yeah formal or old-fashioned or

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whatever you know yeah so we have to actually define the word mad
well yeah that's probably a bit time to to madness to
make yeah yeah to find a new definition but even like because it's like this
psychosis right but even psychosis is is a different it's
a little related right but that's a more of a pathological description
which is so broad though if you're psychotic or psychotic
behavior everyone knows what that means more or less but then

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i bet a lot of experience with sort of
mental illness in my family and sort of bipolarity and
schizoaffective and those those kind of things but a lot of those i know a lot
of creative people musicians who were diagnosed bipolar like quite common you
know einstein all these really brilliant people and that's like you know they're
crazy or can't regulate you know it's it's i'm sure there's a whole discussion

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there obviously on chinese Chinese medicine and what that actually is.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you can't have an incredible gift without the corresponding liability.
Yeah. It's yin and yang. Yeah. So if you are born with a very specific gift,
there's also somewhere an incredible weakness. Yeah. Liability. Yeah, yeah.
And so it's no much point focusing on strengthening your gift.

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You've got to focus on your weakness. Yeah. Yeah.
This is something you don't ever hear. You never hear this in,
I don't know, motivational. Oh, maybe you do.
I don't know much about motivational culture or Western culture or,
you know, it's quite often it is.
More maybe focus on building up strengths than
using the weakness as a starting point i think

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yeah it seems like avoiding weakness avoiding what's weak or
being safe or being careful don't damage that and focusing on
strengths is more common maybe yeah but what i've you know
learned from from you in the past few years especially is
that you know your weakness is your strength like i started
out with asthma and other issues and a lot
of self-esteem issues and things and that was like a starting point without that

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starting point there's nothing to work on there's nothing thing to step on because if you wake up
and you feel great or you're a happy person then there's no way to
you know what are you going to work on there's nothing to work on right so once
you have something to a challenge to work on or a problem i call
it problem like yeah from a chinese medicine perspective it's very
straightforward like the soul needs to
evolve so when we were born according to chinese

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medicine there was within us the drive to
expand and there was within it what the
idea idea that i can get
a grip of myself as long as i keep evolving there so
the need to evolve is directly affiliated with actually
understanding the self so then i've got different different ways of naming it
which is why the word self in chinese medicine is not isolated by itself even

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possible to be used it's a shen jing jin cheng is like that means there's the
awareness of the self in conjunction with the jing, which is the kidney.
And the kidney is the fundamental force for development.
So the self actually can only exist if it develops itself.
The self has to develop itself. Yes, yes.

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So as soon as you don't develop yourself, then you actually don't experience
yourself as self, and now it goes into a non-self.
That sounds a bit selfish, yeah.
Right, we'll say that again. All right, so if you don't develop the self,
then you don't have the support from the gene from the kidney, the water.

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So now the self is by itself, and that can't exist by itself.
So it actually needs the perception of evolving itself.
So this is where we are almost the happiest if we tackle a challenge.
Yes. Yeah? Yeah. And then after the challenge, so what? Yeah, yeah.
It says there's a little bit of great moment. Yeah, no, it's fine.

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But it's kind of, I experience that more as time goes on that I finish something
and it's just kind of, I don't, you know, dwell on it or rest on it.
It's a bit like, okay, well, okay.
That's why we have so much, so much, so much madness now. Right.
Because the self is without the self.
That sounds crazy. Because the self is without the G.

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Yeah. It's without the development. Because like from a Chinese medicine perspective,
it all comes down to the one fact.
I need to always be aware every moment what I do now, how does it impact on
the development of my soul?
Right. Because the only thing we know for sure is death.

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That's the only thing. like when someone is not really sure what's going on
i said oh look it's very simple you will die yep it's not a comforting thing
to say maybe well that's true though,
in a world where it's very hard it brings you back to reality yeah it's very
hard to get to the truth we know at least at least from the outside like we
our experience of death is often usually someone else dying yeah that person

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is no longer here but when we die it's probably quite different experience yeah
right like you know maybe it's not something you even think about you're like
oh cool that's done but i don't know maybe it's not you know it's like the end of a,
I don't think it would be like that. Oh, okay.
It's done. All good. Shit. I didn't expect it.
I've seen it will be that slight. Okay. That waking up from a dream.

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Okay. That suddenly, woo.
And then we just, shit. Oh, you go, I didn't do this. I didn't do that.
When you wake up from a dream, you're like, well, that was really weird. What is that about?
What are those people doing there?
What's it about? Yeah. But the fact is they'll be moving towards it.
Yeah. And therefore, it is of importance to always look, everything we do,
we need to look into how does it actually impact on my soul?

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So without it actually connecting to the soul in terms of where is it connected
to the development of the soul, it's actually moving away from being yourself and into no self.
And we see a lot of what we have seen over the last three decades is that move
towards becoming successful, having lots of material gains.

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I mean, there's more people now having money than ever before.
There's people having more goods than ever before. I mean, look at what we have. It's incredible.
We couldn't imagine that 30 years ago.
So obviously that takes over. And, but then whatever we gain and whatever we,
we work on in that regard, you know, how does it actually has,

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how does it benefit the soul? Yeah.
Yeah, when you get trapped, like I've seen so many of my clients are so trapped
in it because with the mortgages, you know, with the houses.
So 30 years ago, 20 years ago, they bought a house and obviously the values
went up. Oh, we're going to get a different house.
And then bang, and suddenly it's got four, five houses.

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And then the interest rate went up and then the stress factor began.
And then, boom, this financial overcommitment started. And now you have no idea to think about this all.
No. So if someone comes up and says,
look, what you're doing is the most important thing is to look at that.
How does it impact yourself? They're not going to tell you to find out.
Yeah. They can't think that. Yeah. It's just like irritating.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like there's the things that seemingly bring you happiness,
like the car or whatever, you know, but that I can not see that being like soul nourishing.
There's those levels of like happiness or it's great or it's a sense of accomplishment.
I don't know, because I never really craved new things or nice things.
I moved so much that material goods at a young age were almost irrelevant.

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Like, you get something, and then a year later, we move and sell it all at a
garage sale and move to the next place and go to someone else's garage sale and buy other stuff.
And then it became, so I was very, like, was owning things.
And even being in the same space for very long just meant nothing.
Thing so i need people who like you know parents live in the
same house since they were a kid they have their bedroom still from when they're you know

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their same bed and the posters on the wall from when they were a teenager and i
have no concept of that so therefore my attachment to owning objects
or spending a lot of money on external things other than the technology i needed
to do my job having more than i needed like another extra car i know people
you know collect motorbikes or collect things but if i couldn't use it i wouldn't

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see a point in owning it because it's going to sit there it's like another thing
to have so i was never really
be happy if i get that that new car differently like i'll probably enjoy it
but also like i could see a different priority or different like i'm not some
reason just never really appealed to me which is considering i'm an industrial
design which is about making stuff it's like new stuff and i know a lot of designers
who like they love stuff so it's like i'll get the new kettle new this or new

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that or upgrade that because it's beautiful.
That never appealed to me because it was a accumulation. To me,
there's two different things.
Yeah, there's two different things. Like, for example, if I look at an engineer
at Ferrari, I believe many of them are passionate about the engine,
the acceleration, the shape, the form.

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So they, in many ways, are impacting on their soul because they actually are
motivated from within in order to explore that.
And there will be a buyer who's motivated from within to actually explore that,
what they have designed.
And there's a direct communication between the two.

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But what happens to those who buy the Ferrari for status? Which is, yeah.
Yeah. In that moment, it's not impacting on the soul anymore.
It's impacting on the neighbor.
So it's impacted. So in that moment, you're creating a no self.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because it's not affiliated with the kidney gene,
which is affiliated with the soul develop itself.

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So the soul will not develop how the neighbor perceives you.
Yeah. Well, there's people who, Ferrari doesn't even need to announce the new
model, they're already on the list.
So they'll go to this few hundred people, a thousand people in the world and
say, there's a new Ferrari, are you on the list? Yeah. Put me on the list.
They don't even know what it is or what it looks like, how much it is. They're just on there.
It's almost like a guarantee that they'll get it.

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Some there's one thing they you can buy that you can't
even own it ferrari keeps it so you
buy a ferrari from them and they go no you're not allowed to drive we'll bring
it to you once a year and you can drive it and then we'll take it back because
they can't because like it's also a status thing oh i'm one of 10 people that
owns this fx is this race version fx so it's yeah it's more like you said and

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it's the person next to you going they have their 100th ferrari what's going
on you know And that's a big knock-on effect.
And I've thought about this a lot lately. It's like someone,
a friend of mine who did a podcast recently, and she has a lot of stuff around
nasal health and she listens to the podcast. So she knows who she is, Alex.
And I was thinking sort of like in sharing something you're interested in or
passionate about while seemingly very small.

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A, is an indication to people that you can follow through with things that you're
passionate about that aren't about, they're about more than just how they appear externally.
So you want to pursue something that's real and legitimate.
It's an indication that you can also inspire people to do the same thing.
So you can inspire people by your effort and your path and
what you are passionate about and creative about versus the end

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goal where you've become so successful that you've got got all this money and
wealth in external objects so by sharing the
success but not the success in the look how
many friars i've got or how many houses i own but the success of
being yourself and being passionate about what you do and continuing that
through the challenges to me is a there's a high value i
find more value from that than the person who's sitting up

(26:22):
high and achieve these things and accumulating and
doing things because of the status of the brand or what what it looks like not doing
because they love it and it's you can tell when you
talk to someone who loves what they do because quite often they
they think about the financial benefits secondary or the challenges
or whatever it doesn't seem like work it's something that they're pursuing out
of love and and also because they want to help someone like i see a lot of people

(26:43):
like yourself and people who are in the health field you're not doing that because
it's like you're gonna like it's a financial incentive it's like you get paid
for you do but the first goal is to to do what your soul wants to do. It comes from within.
It comes from within. It's not a, oh, I saw that, that you can be an influencer
in 10 minutes and make $50,000 per post, whatever that shit. People just imitate.

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They start somewhere and they work backwards from that. Yeah,
it's the wrong motive because you actually lose your inspiration after a while
because it's such a crazy journey.
Absolutely. Yeah. And so it's just because it's not an rewarding journey.
The reward needs to come from within. It needs to be, all right,
what I just did now is impacting on my soul.

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Yeah. Like if I do a post, I look at it, yeah, it impacts on my soul because
I actually, it reflects what I need to explore, what I need to develop,
and I need to develop the strategies how to express it in a way that it fits
in with the bigger scheme. Yeah. Yeah.
That means I have to learn all kind of other little tricks in order to actually manifest that.

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So it all comes, so that means it all connected to this aspect of that mysterious
jing that's in the kidney. That is actually this developmental aspect.
And that is, in fact, once again, connected to the universe.
So that means if we are connected to this jing, we actually got a direct line to the source, to God.

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And then when we develop the soul, our spirit, it's actually directly connected.
We've got a direct line to the White House.
I don't know if I want to line with that. I don't want to talk to that.
We call it the Lighthouse.
Yeah, Lighthouse is better and not the White House. So we've got a direct line
to the origin, to whatever the source is.

(28:36):
Is and that source then that information comes from
us and influences us in our behavior
towards improving the self yeah
yeah so the self get then get a grip of
itself by the exploration of its need to evolve certain thing about itself which
comes directly from directly from source because the jing is mysterious substance

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that is is a god force yeah yeah so it's a god molecule if you want want to call it.
And there's an interesting thing that's like, I've been reading today in Africa,
they're discovering a new drug that's now pestering the streets.
It's called KUSHO. K-U-S-H-O. It's a terrible drug, apparently.

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But it's primarily derived from skeletal bone, human skeletal bone.
Okay. That's not very nice.
Yeah. But what I immediately thought about it, oh yeah, they're tapping into
the gene because gene gets stored to a certain degree in the bones.
And so for some- Marrow particularly? Like in the marrow? Yeah, in the marrow, yeah.
So the bus they're getting from that drug is actually connected somehow to the jing.

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So they're tapping into source energy through this because our jing is,
the source energy is accessible via our bone marrow balance.
Balance, which is why when we do Tai Chi, how much incredible impact do we have on the balance?
Yeah. I mean, every Tai Chi practitioners gets bone like steel.

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Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. It's just the hardening.
I remember that when I had that x-ray 10 years ago, because I had this excruciating
knee pain and the suggested surgery and I had an x-ray.
And when I looked at that x-ray, the surgeon said, because I was 55,
and he looked at me, I can't believe this is the bond density that you have.

(30:34):
It's this, that's like someone like 30. Yeah. And that was like the evidence
of, of cheat practice, you know, how the cheat practice just strengthen the bone. Yeah.
And how many times have I, you know, slipped and with my modern bike and that
all kind of shit, you know, falling, falling off cliffs and things like that.
And I thought, oh, this is going to be a broken bone.

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No worries. Yeah. And it got up and bam, back on again. Yeah. Keep going.
Yep. But so I've seen how through these tea practices, how the bones are impacted
on in terms of making them seriously strong and solid.
And then at the same time, when there is an impact, they become instant yin or liquid.

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Yeah. Well, it's funny because I think when you're a kid, the same thing, right?
You, you know, almost on purpose have, you know, you crash your bike or you
fall out of a tree and quite often it's like you're rubber. In that moment,
yes, yes, and then bang, back again, and then it gets a steal.
You got shit to do. You keep playing.
Yeah. Yeah. So you've got water, steal, water, steal, water, steal.
And that's obviously what Qi practices do.

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And Qi practices actually then this constant contraction of,
and then electric impulse,
and they have on the bounce, which has been through lab tests,
been proven that Qi practices is create a high electric current around bonds.
Especially the FEMA. Yeah.

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So that actually makes you access source energy.
Yeah. Well, I can see that. I've seen evidence of that. I've felt a bit of that
and I've seen it from, you know, from Yen Jin, Chen Yen Jin in terms of the,
what he does. There's no way, it doesn't seem possible.
So even every year I see him, there's something more and more.
It's actually difficult now
to see his body doing anything other than just being very standing there.

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And then the force and energy you can exert is like, I call,
it's like planetary now.
Like it's gravitational. like it's some bizarre feeling when he put he puts
sort of a hand on you you feel like,
someone's put the weight of the earth on you and the more you try and resist
the worse it gets and you've been driven like into the ground or something with
him seemingly on the outside doing absolutely nothing yeah so the what was happening

(32:50):
there is there's yeah it feels like this density,
it's it's more than just his physical stature of his body doing it and the fluid
becoming solid makes tons of sense in martial arts too if you are very very
rigid and you're trying for a strike or kick or whatever it is,
then more likely you're going to get hurt or miss your target or.
Not achieve what you want to achieve.
But if you're fluid and then at the last second it becomes a different material.

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If it's water, it becomes steel.
It's, you know, Bruce Lee, if water can flow or it can crash.
So you water your fluid until the last moment and then it becomes a weapon or dangerous that it's,
and then back to the state changing, sort of alchemical or,
there are new modern technologies that do this, simulate this,
where they they can change their structure based on like an electrical charge

(33:34):
so it goes soft and solid again but the fact that the body can do that is fascinating
that you can actually like you said,
improve that over time not get worse we're told like if you don't take your
calcium or you drink milk or do this or do that you're deteriorating basically
you're seizing up or you're atrophying or the less you use something and strengthen
it the more weaker it becomes which is yeah but,

(33:56):
People might read that and go, oh, I've got to drink more milk and go to the
gym more often, but that's not really necessarily the- Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's why I'm always proposed strength training. I'm big on strength training.
But what people don't see is that I spend 80% of my training on the flow,
internal Qi practice, and then the actual strength training is only 20% of my practice.

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But there's so much impact in that moment that goes through it that it strengthens
the bones and muscles on a level that otherwise two-hour training would do.
But though I do the two-hour training, or over two hours actually,
more than two hours, more than three hours, but that's me. Yeah.

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And that's my dedication.
And if I don't do it, I live my life as a no-self.
Because it's driven from me. I need to do it.
I need to research it. But the strength training is crucial.
I believe it's absolutely essential.
But what I notice is that people purely only focus on strength training without

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going through the inner part.
That's what I'm always saying over and over. It's not a good idea either.
Because you need the inner development first.
And the Taoists are very clear about it. They say like external training without
internal training leads to depletion. That's not a good idea.

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Yeah. Whereas the internal training is crucial in order to make the external
training of value. Yeah.
So what happened then is what they say is when you do the external training,
forget about the external and do internal.
Yeah. Yeah. And so what happens now is, first of all, when you're doing the

(35:44):
internal training, you're becoming one with this source energy that is accessible via the bones.
And the more you're going in and relaxing into it, the more you're sinking in.
That means the yang and the yin doing its work it's supposed to be doing.
That means the more your awareness merges with the source energy,

(36:06):
and you can feel like you're becoming one with the body.
And now you're actually in a state of being fluid in yeah and then when I go
and use my my bar or my weights or my TRX I'm actually in the state of being
fluid within yeah and I'm letting the.

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In our work, doing the external application.
So it looks like it's an external application, but it's actually internal.
But what's doing it is now you're taking the whole stress level on your bone
marrow, therefore activating source energy on a higher stimulus level,
and you're actually gaining more.
So I believe that the strength training is like something that we developed

(36:51):
in the West and really have got good insight. and I think that the Chinese never
really looked into it as much.
They more looked into the internal and I really believe that it's about East
and West coming together.
And if you take the understanding, the knowledge of the Chinese in terms of
how they approach inner development and then connect it with what we understand

(37:12):
in the West from weight training and strengthening,
you combine that, I believe we take the whole understanding so far that has
been developed over a thousand years here to the next level. Yeah.
Yeah. And you can do that in two hour training what otherwise would just take 10 hours. Yeah. Yes.
Because not everyone has got the ability to train hours every day like an engine would. Yeah, no.

(37:38):
Not everyone's destined to be a Tajima. 12, 14 hours and he does other,
yeah, all sorts of different methods as well. So it's his own process.
Yeah, yeah. Which we don't have, we don't do when I have access to that.
It's his own. And like you said, study.
It's study. It's his job to do that for hours and not.
We live in that regard. We live in fascinating times because when I do my strength

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training, I use primarily TIX, which is the total resistance trainer,
which was developed by the Navy SEALs.
And the Navy SEALs are profound.
They're masters in terms of understanding conditionings. As I say,
I have four Navy SEALs control 2,000 Taliban. Yeah, no, that's about the ratio

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of what tapping into source energy means.
Yeah. There's a Taliban, I'm mad people. Yeah. There's no connection to the source energy.
Yeah. It's just all, but it's like the random atoms, nucleus and molecules going off.
Yeah, that's why the four of them can, yeah, that's why they're organized.
Four navies. And like, I don't know what the, I don't know what the attrition

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rate is, but per 100 people, 200 people that apply this, I mean,
what the number is, is crazy.
But that start doing that, that make it, that's why you'd like,
by the time you get to the people who survived the training.
Yeah. Right? then you're not fucking around. It's unbelievable.
It's like the people who are in those sort of special forces units are,
it's astonishing what people can accomplish.

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Yeah, they have explored, they went into the depths of source energy because
otherwise they wouldn't have survived it.
Yeah, I didn't want to forget how that came, I mean, I don't know enough about
how it came about, the training method that they have and design of that and where that, you know.
You look at what was mixed, obviously they were mixing different styles together
or different understandings of,

(39:28):
physiology but also the use of equipment and they're using a
lot of eastern principles they're using mindfulness they're using
the breathing they're using the water breathing and then also like to
be at your absolute best at the worst
possible moment yeah right that's the saying like you don't rise to the occasion
you fall yeah where do you tap into when you're your absolute best and you've
lost moment when you tap into it ones that they're worst and going chaotic you're

(39:52):
like the most calm yeah that's when you when you when your strength comes forward
yeah You know, when all the shit hits a fan,
who, okay, now I feel myself.
Yeah. Well, it's interesting, right? Because you look, you think,
and I was listening, I've listened to quite a few podcasts with Tim Kennedy,
who's not, not SEALs, he's Special Forces, I believe. Sniper.
Yeah. And I listened to like a six hour podcast with him. Because I'd heard

(40:12):
him in bits and pieces, but I hadn't actually heard his whole story before.
And you think like, there's in no way is he excited about it.
Like he said, the war is the worst thing ever. Like war is terrible.
Yeah. No, you look at on the outside and he has like, you know,
he has a gun and he has shooting schools and he also has like survival schools.
And that you might look at people and go, oh, he's just a gun.

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He's a fanatic or whatever people, you know, he's right wing in that.
And you look at actually what his core principles are.
And it's, it's not at all about that. It's like, he's doing what he's good at.
He's a, you know, his father was in law enforcement, his brother's in law enforcement.
I mean, he's raised it to protect people, you know, to look after people,
And as a protector and as someone who's got this goal, it's like,
that's where he's clearly his path and why he's become so good at it is like,

(40:56):
it's, it's, he's driven by more than just the external, what it looks like on the outside.
We're trying to be a hero or gung-ho things that we always get,
I think, compounded upon people in those sorts of situations and cops and military.
It's quite often, it's like, we're willing to be proud of those people,
like veterans, but then when the job's done, it's like, no one cares anymore.
You know, you know, there's, there's, there's a lot of disrespect for those
people who go through that. But a lot of them, especially in those situations

(41:19):
where they're so highly trained, it's beyond just wanting to have shoot or shoot or, you know, go to war.
So they don't even want that necessarily. But there's something else.
You see that, something else, that spirit, especially when you hear him talk about his experiences.
And now he's like going to education, starting schools, teaching kids.
Yeah. When he talks, you can sense he's stepping to source. Absolutely.

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It's not like he saw something and wanted to imitate it. It's kind of part of his core.
He's truly himself exactly yeah there's no no self no that's why sorry great
now you hear him speak and you watch him follow his Instagram and stuff and
he's just being himself absolutely and he's also doing,
he's able to do make the right choices and do the right thing and he's got this

(42:01):
whole program he's part of which is several allies which is when you know people
end up in war zones he goes and gets them out of these war zones American citizens
yeah when the Americans fled Afghanistan,
he just and they left all these people stranded there. Yeah,
well, they informed them.
And he got in with a couple of his mates and then helped like 2,000 people. No, 12,000.

(42:21):
He coordinated a lot of groups of people. So not just him, but a lot of groups
of Save Our Allies and he coordinated the extraction of 12,000.
And the government didn't want him to do that. No, exactly.
And this is the thing too, this is like patriotism and they'll be the first
people to talk about how the government's let them down and the US is falling apart.
They're not blindly patriotic, but they are in the sense that that's what they

(42:42):
were trained to do and they want to help the people next to them,
they want to do the right thing and help.
I just think it's a really fascinating topic because it'd be so easy to write
people off like this who are crazy or this or that or far right.
And I think when you hear these people talk.
Especially on like a podcast or something, it's like anybody who's been cancelled
over the past few years, the opportunity to hear them talk, you know pretty

(43:02):
quickly if they're full of shit or not.
Right? I mean, we met Peter McCulloch in person and there's no sense meeting
him. You instantly know this person is real. He's real.
He's connected. I felt, even just getting near him, it felt like,
oh, this is not a person who's just talking or he's not like, you know.
He's not a selfie-throwing, swaying influencer.

(43:23):
No. No, or saying it sounds good, or he's being paid to say it.
He became a hero because I believed in the cause. I didn't fight because I'm becoming a hero.
He didn't put the hero position in the first place. No. He acted on his drive from within.
And he did this. He knew what he was doing. How does it impact on my soul?
He questioned himself. If I follow this mandate, how does it impact on my soul?

(43:48):
What about if I oppose this mandate and help those unfortunate people?
Well, how would that impact on my soul?
And he could sense in that moment that it's far better to impact positively
on your soul than you neglecting your soul. So he's one of those examples.
And then, obviously, the result of that is he tapped into himself,

(44:08):
and then the source energy moved through him.
And he became almost like a realized being, because when you met him,
you're just like, wow. It was pretty.
I felt like I'm in the presence of some sort of master type.
I was surprised. I didn't expect it to get that sense.
And that's because he just, he didn't give in to the narrative. Yeah.
And he sacrificed his status. Yeah.

(44:31):
Yes. But in this one mood. He lost his income. By the time we saw him speaking
live, I mean, he was in debt.
He lost all the money. Yeah. To choose a different path. Yeah. Yeah.
It's just like he lost all his status. Yeah. Yeah. So that's obviously what
really brings forward the meat in a person.
Yeah. and really to get connected to it.

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So this is obviously, the interesting thing is that this jing that is responsible
to develop the self so that you are your true self rather than a no self.
And that jing, that is your power source, but it's also under the influence of fear.
So when fear is about, then it cuts you off from tapping into the source energy, into the jing.

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And I think that's probably what they do with the Navy SEAL,
why they're so, the ones who get through this process and come out at the other
end have got this enormous sense of self. Yeah.
Because they actually were facing all those fears and had to dig into something
that in this chaotic circumstance had to be their best self.

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And there was nothing else other than to dig deep.
Yeah. And when you dig deep, where do you go? You go into the kidney.
Yeah. Because in China's medicine, this gene is actually the darkness in yourself.
Not darkness in dark spirit.
In darkness, it's hidden. It's a mystery.
It's a mystery. So, because when you are faced with this beautiful situation,

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what happens is life becomes a mystery because you don't know in that moment what you can rely on.
All trust just goes.
And I listened to my uncle and my father in the second war when they were full
on in this combat situation.
Like my uncle, he was one of those crazy SS guys who would stick themselves

(46:26):
into holes and waiting for the Russian tanks to appear.
Yeah. And then he climbed up on the Russian tanks and put the grenades on.
Right. You know, this sort of stuff. Yeah, Texans. So he had to, yeah.
It's just like he said in that moment, it sounds all very good when the intent
is said, yeah, I'm going to blow those things up.
So you go there because usually the night before you drink lots and get charged
up and then you just go into the field and you just, because there's only a

(46:50):
few of them and in that moment, there's no one there you can rely on.
Yeah. Yeah. And then you see those tanks.
You hear the tanks before you see them.
That's a scary moment. So the fear that comes up in that moment,
because those army tanks, you can't see for a while. Yeah.
But the noise is full on. Yeah.

(47:11):
And because there's not only one. Right.
There's several. Yeah. Yeah. And so then obviously the fear comes in.
So obviously what happens in the moment is you have to dig very, very, very deep.
In order to actually trust,
Yeah, and that's source energy. Yeah, but then is training, right?

(47:32):
That's not just a, it's not like, oh, I'm just trying to be afraid,
a mental process. If you're trying to do it in the moment, it's not going to work.
Like, clearly it has to come from. But it requires a fear also.
To activate it. In order to get, yeah, it requires a fear. This is the interesting
thing. Yeah, what that means that.
This is why the physical world is essential. The setup of the physical world
that has so much uncertainties is actually essential in order for us to tap

(47:56):
into the source energy in order to create ourself. Yeah.
Because you never know of the outcome. So if you opt out for security,
what happens is that at the moment you're actually cheating on your soul. Yeah.
Yes. Because you're actually not allowing to dig deep into source energy.
Yeah. Because instead you're giving into the security of the outer and then you feel safe.

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So the fear factor is actually essential in order to dip in.
And my uncle, he said it a few times, In that moment when he just realized he
had to dig in, there was nothing else, he said there was always something coming
towards him. There was always his presence suddenly.
And so he never was a spiritual person, but he said the war made him spiritual.
Is that something you'd expect to hear? Yeah, yeah. So he said because there's

(48:43):
too many situations where he was faced now with that suddenly,
a non-ordinary experience in place.
Yeah. yeah um yeah nims die
perger nims perger who did the 14 peaks
reclined the 14 tallest peaks oh yeah yeah
in the record yeah his story being special forces sas was
very similar to that there was these moments where he's like i got shot at from

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a rooftop and the bullet hit the part of the rifle the only area could have
hit him without killing him he fell off the rooftop and so there were these
moments in combat that were he should have died or something should happen and
there it was an almost like an intervention where he's like, he was obviously he's.
You know, it's like Nepalese, so there's obviously a spiritual practice into
that, right? But obviously, as a soldier, you're not really thinking about that.

(49:27):
They said there were these times when it was almost like you were supposed to
be in that situation at the exact moment for that to happen.
You don't really associate that often with war, like spiritual awareness or
enlightenment or... Yeah.
But you hear it all the time. Like people who, like you said,
the four seals that take down 2,000 enemy or whatever, the stories,
like the Battle of Britain or when it shouldn't have happened,
it shouldn't have gone a certain way. Yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely. My uncle, when he got into the, he became the Leibstandarte
SS, Waffen-SS, which is the black uniform, those like highly trained soldiers under Hitler.
He joined for status. Yeah.
And he was the man. I mean, he was like six foot four, blonde,
blue eye, big, you know, wherever he went. Yeah, he's a dude.

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Yeah. And so he fit the exact picture of the status of that time.
But there was never a thought about spirituality.
Right, no. Someone would have said, like, talk about some sort of,
like, chi or Buddha or stuff like that. Yeah. You know?
However, then the situation where the fear was overwhelming and where he had

(50:35):
to dig deep, it is then when he discovered that presence came through to him. Right, yeah.
And then after the war, when he was finished, when he escaped.
His life changed totally.
Yeah. And he went to, he was one of those German SS who then escaped to Argentina.
Yeah. Yeah. And then he went to the, lived in the jungle with the Indians for

(50:56):
three years. Didn't want to see a white man.
Yeah. Because he was, because he, he was the war really. Yeah.
Completely made him disillusioned about what the physical life had to offer.
Did anyone know the last people he talked to who knew what he was doing there?
Like, do you know what the last thing, where he was at before he died,
in terms of what he was doing or what he... No, he was obviously in Russia.

(51:17):
Yeah. And then he got captured. Yeah. And then my father and another guy helped
him to escape, which is a long story in itself.
Sure, I bet. So he got out. So they escaped. So, they escaped to Italy and then
hopped on the boat in Italy and then arrived in Argentina.

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And then as soon as he arrived on land, he went straight away for the Indios,
for the jungle, because he had the survival skills.
I mean, that's what they learned, yeah.
And the Indios who then met him discovered, saw in him that warrior. Yeah.
Samavudis was accountable for himself. Yeah. They didn't see like someone who

(51:59):
was like whatever race affiliated with it. They just saw the person. They saw the self.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they saw that was someone committed to the self.
And obviously those guys in the jungle obviously were also committed to themselves.
And so it became like this interaction.
And he learned the language a little bit. He loved it.

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Yeah. But he learned, I mean, he took ayahuasca and all kind of stuff.
Sure. So he was into it before. when I was a hippie and talked about mescaline
I said I've done all that right,
I've done it in the jungle yeah okay you know it's them and I mean I talked
about opium I smoked when I was when I was kept in a prison of war right,

(52:40):
crazy stories wow yeah yeah because obviously when you're in this sort of situation
and someone offers you a moment of escape you obviously go for it you don't
ask any question if it's legal or not yeah Yeah, probably not.
Yeah, you're already in prison.
Are you in trouble for this? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So the interesting thing is that obviously it's the fear factor

(53:04):
is essential in order to tap into this.
Yeah. No, I've never thought of it that way, but that makes a lot of sense.
It's necessary as an activator, right?
Yeah. Otherwise, you know what you can do because it's like the idea now that
we need external security or someone's going to help us or come in to save us
or that someone else will tell us what to do in an emergency or in a bad situation.

(53:26):
Situation, you feel like that's being more and more pushed as you're on your way.
Yeah. Because I believe there's a spiritual awakening now on global scale.
Because you can't actually wait for the government to save you anymore.
You can't wait for the politician to save you. I mean, they're all just like
a bunch of puppets. I mean, I look at them, you're just going to laugh.
You can't take them serious anymore.

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And now that most MPs in
Germany are smoking hashish all day and smoking pot and
getting stoned all day yeah is that okay it's yes
and then talking about pre-war rather than
war yeah no idea what they're talking
about yeah because they're obviously so removed from life like they don't even
know what what a conflict means it sounds like pre pre like pre-workout like

(54:12):
creatine or something i'm just taking loading up before the actual workout you
know we're just taking that stuff yeah it's just like a fad yeah let's talk
about the war yeah we're gonna be wanting We're going to arm up,
so when Russia attacks us, we're going to attack them before they attack us. So it's a psychosis.
Yeah, it's a full-on psychosis that goes on there.
And obviously, that's a result of obviously not being connected to source energy anymore.

(54:37):
And so we can see this now when more and more people, like when I talked to
my sister a couple of weeks ago, like she just said, it's just like,
it's just total, it's beyond madness now. It's a new level.
Like, where the parliament makes absolutely no sense anymore. Well...
You know, maybe he never did.

(54:58):
But, you know, like, it's always level. Yeah, I know. But it's always at a level
of like. Look at the back.
There were some great guys. Sure. I mean, look at Robert Johnny. Look at Kennedy.
Yeah. Bobby Kennedy. I know, isn't great. We don't really deserve.
If there was a politician, I reckon it's him.
Yeah, him and Tulsi Gabbard as well. She's not running for president.
She's incredible. But him.

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So there is someone there who would be the ideal president of America.
Yeah. I mean, he's just. But instead, they're going through the madness.
Yeah, well, yeah, you got to see it through, hey?
The Trump behind it is just madness on each opposite scale. Absolutely. It is.
So you either get the left madness or you get the right madness.
Either way, you will get mad. You get mad, yeah.

(55:40):
And the person who makes the most sense is the outlier and people calling him crazy.
He's a conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer. All these priorities that if you
listen to him talk, you know he's not any of those things.
He's actually, everything he says, there's complete rationale
and research and experience behind it like not only direct
research but also like his job is to
research and write books on legal yeah but look at the

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fear that he dealt with he kept
on going yeah he's connected to to himself
yeah I can't imagine and he's still being
denied secret service but look at his he practices hard yeah
I mean look at his body the guy's 68 look at that I
just look at his eyes you just just need
to look at his eyes you're like it's something something so crazy not crazy

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but it's incredible something really otherworldly there
i want to see trump and and and and kennedy
in the ring well let's sort it out the
old way yeah the old school yeah that's pretty good forget it forget the forget
the political debate put him in the ring i don't think biden could even get
up the stairs into the ring from that point you know yeah i don't know what's

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going on there it probably will last a second no i don't think again i don't
even find the arena yeah pretty lost the only problem with that is you put putin
in there he's going to a problem.
Yeah. Him and Kennedy. I think Kennedy would be the one.
But it is- Maybe meanwhile, yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think Kennedy's stronger than him now. I think so.
But back in the day, I think Putin, because he was forced in.

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No, that was, yeah. Yeah.
But apparently, he's not that healthy anymore. No, he didn't look that healthy in that interview.
He didn't look as healthy as he used to, but- I mean, he's probably another
of those- I mean, it was his interview with Tucker Carlson was great,
but still, he's a madman.
He's still mad. Yeah. I just think it was so fascinating.
He's a very interesting man. Madman was like, a madman will make sense.

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Totally. Like I mentioned this one before, the Banksy's work and he did this
whole exhibition where he did these installations in New York and the reaction
to it was more important than what he did.
And I think the Putin interview, the most remarkable thing was the reaction.
Before the interview even aired, the reaction was like as if it had happened.
And all these fucktards in the media were like, oh God, this is mad.
And I'm like, this hasn't happened yet.

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Someone that you don't like is going to interview someone else you don't like. Yeah.
That's all you know. So, yeah, and then the interview came out and it was pretty
reasonable and it was a lecture about Russian history, which was fascinating.
Like, clearly knows what he's talking about.
But all the things that were like, you know, being the drum about didn't happen,
but didn't matter because they'd already had their fear reaction and made everyone else afraid.
And all the people who just still think the media is real, you know,

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react in the same way. It's all
predictable, right? The whole thing is predictable now in its insanity.
The reaction is like, oh, of course they're going to bring it.
Yeah, this is why I believe. But to me, it looks like every time I talk to my
friends in Germany, I say, look, because they're scared. Yeah.
I mean, even Joe Rogan on the podcast said, I'm scared. I want Jesus to come back.

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And when he said that, someone took that and put it on the Christian side.
And now everyone's like, wow.
Dude. There you go. See him coming off drive. Got a new market now.
You just made it as a joke.
He's probably just added two million new followers in the podcast by saying
that. I think that's how you realize there's something not quite in line with
their understanding of what this thing coming off crisis is about.

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Yeah. Yeah, but obviously, I hear this often.
Here in Australia, we don't get that much. Yeah, we don't have that fear.
Oh, right. Yeah, we don't have
that fear. When you talk to friends in Germany, there's a lot of them.
Yeah, I know. It's a bit of a, we should be here. Yeah. And when you talk to
America, they're scared. Yeah, I think people here probably should be,
but there's no point in making them afraid if they're not really afraid.

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I think people like, maybe you should be a little more, I think you're concerned.
Too consumed in the mortgage crisis, too consumed on what got,
you know. What's caused that?
The thing that we see as being very obvious of what caused it is people are
still in a bit of a bubble about what caused it.
And it's like, oh, petrol prices are high because of the war in the Ukraine.
I'm like, no, that's not really what happened. but if you think that's true,

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sorry that you think that, but it's not what happened. The reason why we have
a cost of living crisis is.
500 or 600 billion dollars spent on covid crisis in
australia that's the current maybe conservative like that's
a obscene amount of money not to mention
a lot of you know i don't think it's probably a bit trillion i'm guessing but it's
it's a it's an amount that's put in forward money right so insane crazy so it's

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all these words mad crazy and saying that's not working yeah you couldn't have
seen that like 20 years ago there's no way what it was that the government would
have spent like hundreds of billions of dollars online on something that's not
proven not that quick Not that quickly.
How did that happen? Yeah. How sudden? Within months.
And how sudden everyone was suddenly caught off and paid off and this corruption so sudden.

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Yeah. And so that's obviously where people now have no choice other than to go within.
Yeah. Because the fear is actually the key to get into the gym.
Yeah. And then to dig deep and then to find a way how to connect and then the
information will come through and then to just act on it.

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Yeah. It will not work without fear. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because I
just watched the new Dune movie, the second Dune movie, which is pretty amazing.
It's hard to even watch it again.
There's so much happening. But there's a saying in that book that says fear is the mind killer.
Maybe it's more like fear is the soul igniter or something. In terms of that's
putting fear as this negative thing, it's going to kill you.

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And if you don't, if you let it, it will.
Jing is the power that is essential for developing the self.
But jing is also the power that will regulate protein production.
So what we spoke about in the beginning, for example, all the vaccine damages,
they can all be regulated with Chinese medicine.
Because Janus Medicine focuses on

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the Jing, because I had quite a few vaccine-damaged clients over the time.
And I focus on the kidney. Yeah.
And lots and lots of herbs and lots of breathing, lots of qigong.
Obviously, the herbs are crucial.
Yes. And after a while, that information that is in the body in terms of this
proliferation of that information to produce protein that aren't belonging to

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the body is now more and more suppressed.
Yeah. And eventually it has got no need to exist and then it disappears.
So the good thing about it is that vaccine damages can be easily healed.
But they require, easily is probably the wrong word, but you can heal it and
it requires a departure from the old lifestyle.

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And it requires, okay, I've got to get into digging deep into the kidney.
And because in there is a Jing that then actually provides the information to
correct this, whatever those patterns are that John Ryan talks about in the
Brett Weinstein podcast, which I tell everyone, you got to listen to it.
And then you really just get it.

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But keep in mind that there are Chinese medicine got solutions to it because
this is obviously where Brett Weinstein, those people that I interviewed,
Chinese practitioners or the practitioners of Chinese medicine, they don't go there.
So we only hear one side of the coin, which is essential for them to bring that
forward because they're essential for the awakening process.

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I think even the guy John Ryan said at some point in the interview,
he's like we can dwell on that or we can just move forward and get on with something.
And when he said that, I'm like, that's what we need. That's the getting on
with it and doing something about it is more than just speaking out about it
or highlighting it. It's what actually. way. Yeah.
Yeah. I think that would be the next stage will be where people like Brett Weinstein

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and this Peter McCullough who started going against the narrative and then as
what in their words, they're developing the tribe. Yeah.
And now more and more people will appear. Yeah. And the group that has been
neglected so far is the group of those who have, who are really focusing on

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the Chinese medicine, but not the Western Chinese medicine.
Yes. The Western Chinese medicine is academic. Yeah. But it's bullshit.
It's bullshit. Because you look at that and I go, whoa. Yeah.
But you saw them all crumble under the, oh, no, but hysteria. Ah, it is.
They just backed off on their own. What they should have known to be true were just completely.
I'm talking about the Chinese medicine. And the original idea of the Chinese

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medicine is if you are a practitioner of the Chinese medicine,
that means your job is to wake up at 4 a.m. Yeah, okay.
And you do your three-hour, four-hour qigong. But other than you.
Then you sit down and have a congee, a solid breakfast in order to ground that
energy that you receive.
Now you're going out and treat your clients. Then by the time it comes lunch,

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around 1.30, 2 o'clock, your job is to rejuvenate yourself and have a big meal.
And then in the afternoon, you do research and study.
And then by 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock, you're just going back and do your Qigong
and your Tai Chi and your martial art.
And then you take some herbs, have a glass of wine, chill out, go to bed.

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So that is the path of a Chinese doctor. doctor that has been the path in ancient times.
It is because of that lifestyle that they discovered the Chinese medicine because no one gave them a book.
The original Chinese doctors were out there four o'clock in the morning and

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were just knocking at heaven's door over and over through the Qigong practices
and just asking questions and didn't give in.
Not knowing what they were doing, they just transcended the fear, they dig deep.
They were like the Navy SEAL. They kept digging, kept digging,
kept digging and putting themselves in incredible situations of stress in order
to find where is it. Yeah.

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And then explored it, explored it.
And like I studied under one of those Chinese doctors.
He was 80 by the time he came to Australia. I was a student and he came to visit us.
And he talked about how when he studied China's medicine,

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a lot of the acupuncturists were doing four-hour Qigong before they went to the hospital.
So they worked in hospitals and treated 60, 80 patients and did an enormous help.
They helped the humanity, but they had a really dedicated practice.

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Yeah, it's like, how else can you do it, really? Yeah. And they said it over and over.
Like, I remember that when I talked to Jiang Man. I like, lots of us in Brisbane
know Jiang Man. Yeah, she's amazing. One of the best acupuncturists in Australia.
And she said over and over to me, she said, you cannot understand Chinese medicine without Tai Chi.
You cannot understand Chinese medicine without you have living the lifestyle. It's not from the book.

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The book cannot give you the understanding. The book is the structure.
Yeah. The understanding comes from the application.
And this is what I mean when I talk about Chinese medicine to the rescue.
I mean, those people, when Brett Weinstein, John Ryan, those people that need to open up to those,
practitioners of Chinese medicine will live the lifestyle, will dedicate themselves

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to qi development every day, will have a four-hour practice,
five-hour practice, will live it fully dedicated. And those people do exist.
And there, people have an understanding of how to work with Jing in order to
regulate the protein proliferation and therefore to control the pattern on a
level that no one else can do. Well, I should give you a call then. Yeah.

(01:07:24):
It's about bread. Hey, Fred, give me a call. Give us a call because you can
help. Yeah. Yeah. And come over, do some Qigong with me.
I don't know. Show you some. Farmers, right. Show you some real far Jing.
Yeah. So don't be afraid, but use fear to your advantage.
Yeah. That's a way to end that.
So face the fear, dig deep, let the source energy come through you and become

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your true self. True self. So you're not the no self.
Not your no self, true self. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Till next time. Yeah.
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