Huda & Louis, Taylor Frankie Paul & The Bachelorette, Jessi & Jordan Divorce + Call Her Daddy Tea

🎬 Reminders of Him book-to-movie review — our ratings are in
🧴 Alix Earle launches her Reale Actives skincare line
⚖️ Huda & Louis’ legal battles with baby mama
🌹 Taylor Frankie Paul’s Bachelorette season officially canceled
💔 Mormon Wives’ Jessi Draper and husband Jordan are divorcing
🎙️ Jessi Draper goes on Call Her Daddy and we’re unpacking the tea

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Episode Transcript

(00:07):
Hi, Siciana's welcome to Girl Please podcast.
It's Elena here. Hey.
Bitches, it's Amanda. I'm already exhausted.
I know you said this because we have so many topics that are
like sad and draining for women that we don't even want to get
into this. Episode literally like I was
voice noting you on the way and I'm like, I love recording with
you. It's like recording with my best
friend. I'm like, but the topics we have

(00:29):
this week are so depressing. I feel like I'm going through
these. Rap, baby Mama, drama, divorces.
Like so much is happening and like I wanted to come on here
and rant about women's pajamas and you know what?
It doesn't feel right anymore. Do you wanna know what my
problem is with? Women's pajamas, Please let me
know. OK, and I'm kind of mad about

(00:50):
this. I also have like a little
personal vendetta against some girl who like said the I said
the thing on TikTok before I could, but she took the words
right out of my brain. I've always been frustrated with
women's pyjamas because why are they collared?
I'm not going to wear a collaredshirt like on the regular.

(01:11):
Like I'm it's just not really like unless I'm in business.
Where why are we in business? Where to bed?
Why can't we have a cute crew neck?
Don't you think that's weird? No.
I don't either. I never thought about it.
I don't. Wear them either because they're
collared like this. I see what you mean.
Do you know what I mean? Like I was.

(01:32):
Like a traditional, you know. What brought this back into like
a fire in my life? Because I will wear like, yes, I
know you can wear nothing to bedor like a big T-shirt.
I love a big T-shirt. Like that's what I like to sleep
in. So now my friend had come to
visit like 2 weeks ago, our girlCassidy my other like bestie

(01:52):
from back home is coming to visit tomorrow so I'm like I
need. She doesn't have any other
bestie. I'm like.
An associate of friends, correct?
Thank. You for fact checking.
Because. We will always give you the
truth here girl, please, we need.
To talk about that for a second,you're like, oh, I have a friend
coming to visit and I was like, why?
Yeah. What is the purpose?
What is the need? And then I'm like, you know

(02:12):
what, enjoy it after I get over my little attitude.
So your man was on a work trip, so you'll get to enjoy the day
with him and I'll leave. You, I told him when he was
away. I was like, you know, me and
Elena were actually talking about having a sleepover since
you're going to. Be like a breathing.
He's probably like what the fuckis going on?
I'm sorry. Oh my.
God, that is so funny. Oh my God, poor Nico.
Like God bless him because he really deals with us having like

(02:36):
our own little like. I tell you, I tried picture in
our family photos, everything's.So funny actually, there's like
a thing that giggly squad says, like the girls always say that
they're like in like a non like what kind of partners, like a
domestic partnership kind of thing.
But like it's like a friendship marriage.
So funny how they describe. It I gotta run everything by?

(02:56):
You God bless your man for dealing with the fact that we do
this like we have our weekly date nights like.
For sure, yes, we went to the movies last night.
We went to the movies, but yeah,I won't we'll get into that in a
in a hot sack. But I'm thinking like, oh, I
wish like Cassidy came over. You know, Cassidy that let me
paint a picture of our friend Cassidy.

(03:16):
She is the type of girl that like, you know, we used to live
in the same complex as her. She will change her wreath for
every season on her door. She changes her little doormat.
That's like, you know, it's one it'll be like a puppy theme.
That'll be a Halloween theme. And for spring it has flowers.
Like this is the type of girl she is like farmers market and
and just like loves the grocery store.

(03:38):
Like she had the cutest little silk set pajamas when she came
to stay with me. I can picture it.
And I'm like I need to and now my other friend is coming and
I'm like I need to step up my pajama game and then I'm like
I'm so sick of these collared shirt ass fucking sets.
Like why are they colored? And now that I think about it, I

(04:00):
think about when I was working in the corporate world and we
had to dress up for work. Why do I have to wear a college
shirt as a woman too? You know how like that I would.
Avoid it at all costs. I would try my very I used to
like God bless the fact that we work remote.
I used to feel so uncomfortable in my skin wearing corporate

(04:20):
wear like I didn't feel like myself.
I didn't feel confident. I didn't feel good and like also
being like we're both bigger chested and just it made me feel
so uncomfortable and like large and like the butt and I hated
that shit so I always tried to find a way around.
Like cute dresses? Making to wear, making like
corporate wear, like feel like me.
And it was such a thing. Girl we had casual Fridays and I

(04:43):
lived for it. Lived for it.
Shout out my old boss Adam. One time I was in office on a
casual Friday and I had AT shirton that said Chardonnay all day.
Oh my God, that's extremely. And you went all the way off he.
Definitely called me in the office and was like, you know,
maybe don't wear that shirt again.
That's. Hilarious.
Wait, I you're an icon, A livinglegend.

(05:07):
Did you even think twice? You're like, no, this is casual
Friday. For me, I'm like, who even
drinks wine? Because I wasn't drinking wine
those days. You know, that's like you're
like, wine is classy. Yes, this is for work.
This is corporate. I didn't put tequila.
That's funny. That's actually incredible.
And I'm so and look at you just climbing the corporate ladder

(05:28):
from there. That is super funny.
Wow. You should talk about the movie
that we want to see. Yes, First off, I love our
little dates. I know, me too.
Amanda got turned at the movies last night, yeah.
You did? Yeah.
The only reason I didn't go for a nightcap with you after was
because I had to get home to my son and get him to dinner.
It was for the better. Yeah, yeah.
But we saw Reminders of Him, which is an adaptation from one

(05:53):
of our favorite books by ColleenHoover.
Yes, our pod girlies that have been following us from beginning
when we were a book pod club. Yeah.
Book Podcast. Yeah, Book club podcast.
Yes, you guys know we love this.Yeah, I'm like.
There's a couple words. Yeah, we're all together now,
guys, bear with me. Still drunk from the movies?
Still feeling it, yes, But yes, you guys know that we love this

(06:17):
book if you are an OG of us and we have to watch the film.
For sure, we were so excited to hear that it was getting a movie
adaptation, but that was also like, I think before all of the
IT Ends With Us drama was happening.
Like we were like so hyped for all the things coming in the

(06:37):
Colleen Hoover world. And then it's like, I do feel
like the budget just like it wasn't the same kind of, and I
think she needed this. It wasn't the same kind of
production that they gave like It Ends With Us, like that was a
big budget film. She needed no drama, and she's
not gonna have drama because shewas like, she's too scared.
She's like, please just give me people on the come.

(06:59):
Up, yes, well Tyreek Withers wasa good one, yes, great casting
and then we had my sis Lorelai in there.
Honestly, like I after watching it, I'm not mad at the cast.
I agree. I had high standards in the
beginning because I'm like I love this book, it's one of my
favorites. But after watching it, I'm like,
you know what? It worked well.
I was nervous. I was like, you know, I was,

(07:20):
it's just when a book means so much to you and I have PTSD from
people we meet on vacation and I'll never even while we were in
the movies, I was like, at leastit's not as bad as people we
meet on vacation, but. See the difference with those
two? I would say watching the film
reminds us of him. I think the book's going to be
even better. But the people we meet on
vacation after watching the film, I don't even care to read

(07:42):
the book. I'm just like.
Justice for my girl Poppy in that movie because they made her
look like a home wrecker and that man did not have a
girlfriend when anything went down and when they met.
So like that pisses me off. She never kissed that man when
they had when he had a girlfriend.
That's crazy. He never proposed.
Like, no, no, all of this was like made-up bullshit.

(08:04):
Like sometimes as an author, it's OK to say no.
It's. OK to say no, it's OK to stick
to the integrity of your story, Yes.
However, that's people we meet on vacation for reminders of
him. I will say I was going in with a
very low bar because I loved this book so much and I just
wanted to like give it low expectations and just enjoy

(08:24):
that. I love the story and I was OK
with it. I was happy with it.
I would say the plot felt a little rush, like there were
moments where I felt we could have had more build up with our
characters like Ledger and Kennaare supposed to meet and kind of
like have this thing between them before he even knows who
she is. They.

(08:44):
Fall in love first. Yeah, she uses, like, a fake
name. He doesn't realize that's his
best friend's girl who, like, supposedly murdered him.
It's a whole, you know, I think that was a little rush and they
she. Didn't murder him, it was an
accident. Don't say any of the.
We don't need to give. Any I know, but you're making it
sound like. I said supposedly.

(09:05):
I said supposedly. I was like.
Wait, like he's not supposed to be like Oh my God, this is the
girl that's supposedly responsible for my before he
knows anything for my Sam's death and I do.
Like that they kept a lot of thebig parts of the book in the
film I think. They did a good job, I loved
Lady Diana, I think they did a good job of keeping most of the

(09:30):
main points. The like I said I think they
could have invested more in likethe love story before the reveal
happened of like who she is however still happy with it.
Definitely would see it again. And I cried, I cried a few times
and I would give it a 7 out of 10.
For me I wish they made it ATV show instead of a movie because

(09:54):
they could have done the first season of them falling any.
Series and yeah, I just. Think the first season could
have been them falling in love. Second season like it ends with
like he finds out who she is andthen she's working her way to
like get her daughter back. I wish it was slower, but I
agree I it wasn't. It exceeded my expectations from
the beginning so I would give itabout a 7 as well.

(10:17):
Yeah. And I would say I'm interested
to know, like, people who have not read the book, when they
watch it, would they enjoy it asmuch?
Like for me, I feel like I was emotional because I know the
story, I know what's coming, I see the meat, and I'm already
invested in these characters before anything happens 'cause I
know their story. So I'm curious to hear from

(10:40):
people who maybe haven't read itand just watched it and if they
like organically like, But it did seem like the people in the
theater around us were like intoit.
Well, I think. They read the book like us.
Yeah. Yeah.
But I agree. I cried mostly because I know
the storyline, not because if I watched it from beginning to
end, I don't know if I would feel the same attachment.

(11:01):
But of course, if you read the book, you're gonna cry.
Watch. And they?
Made it more PG. They gave it a really PG.
Like it's probably, I don't knowwhat it's rated.
It's probably yeah, PG13 maybe. They didn't even say like
there's a catch, like a line in the book that has a curse in it.
And they made instead of the F word, they said frickin.

(11:22):
So like, I'm like, I don't know,like even though there were sex
scenes that were cut, their first kiss scene like didn't
happen the way it was supposed to.
Like there were not really many kisses even until the like, I
don't know. I think they definitely, I think
that's. Made it slow, more slowed down,
yeah. But.
I would recommend it. Yeah, OK.

(11:43):
Not mad at it and at least it wasn't ruined like the last
Colleen book that we liked, so there's that.
I can't. Believe there's not gonna be a
second film but like. Crazy and and The thing is about
it ends with us. The movie was great.
It was great. Like people I know are just like
in rage, but like if you take a second and remove the drama,

(12:06):
they did a fantastic job. So I don't know what.
My honey landed. Oh, OK.
No, I'm like, what is the smirk?What's happening?
I hope you. See that live baby?
That's really. Cute.
So excited, but yeah, like the film wasn't bad, so it's like
it. Wasn't it we?

(12:27):
Would have loved to see a Part 2.
You know what? We could do forget the movie
even happened. Let's make it ATV show ho new
cast, you know then it could. There's so many times where I
love a book and I wish it was longer.
I wish we saw what happened after and then they.
Waste the shows on stupid ones like the perfect couple where
they changed everything there's.Gonna you see?

(12:47):
There's gonna be Season 2. Girl.
A Season 2, yeah, that's. Terrible they changed that whole
story. They even changed what the like
plot twist ending is the siblings.
There are like everything, wholething.
Is crazy. As you can tell, we love to read
if you haven't been following usfrom that era and like these
movie adaptations, they mean a lot to us.

(13:07):
I cannot. Wait for the Mind F series to
come out. I loved the books.
Amazing, amazing, amazing. It's about a woman serial killer
and I love it and they better for me.
Personally I'm on the edge of myseat waiting for the 4th wing
series to come out. Not.
Me really, I'm just so I, I feellike I'm fantasied out, like I'm

(13:30):
so I need to get back to my thriller.
I will. Be sad like I am.
Literally, I cannot wait. Like every little update that we
get from Rebecca, I'm like clinging to Oh my God, I'm
shocked. I'm obsessed with that between
a. Guitar and that I just I need
like a yeah but. You're not reading it now, I

(13:50):
know. But I have PTS like, I just
think about how much fantasy we went through and Oh my God.
And then I'm always disappointedwith fantasy books when they
come into like shows. And so I'm just like, I'm, I'm
trying to be helpful, though. Yeah, I.
Think it's gonna be amazing and Rebecca really is passionate
about she she will stick to the.Story which I appreciate and
then. The other thing is Sarah J.

(14:10):
Moss has said the same. Like she has the rights back and
like she's gonna take her time. Like she also went.
I couldn't, I'm upset that I couldn't watch her interview
because I'm in the middle of theACUTAR series and I can't.
I don't want spoilers yet. And I haven't read a lot of her
other books she was talking about.
So I need to wait. But she's very protective of the

(14:31):
ACUTAR series becoming a show. And she's like, I don't wanna be
right. I'm going to dedicate like
everything to making sure this is done right.
So it's just like, it's another way of showing the story to
people who haven't read it. So like, I want to put
everything into that the way I do my writing.
So she's gonna be very thoughtful.
We'll have time before that one comes out.

(14:53):
But I am sat for 4th Wing and I.Say that now watch it.
Come on. I'm gonna be like, ah, we're.
Gonna be. I have a feeling it's gonna be
maybe. I just can't read any more
fantasy books for a bit. That's fine.
I. Understand.
And I'm. Reading right now The Love
Hypothesis by Ali Hazelwood which is becoming a movie which
we talked about with Lily Reinhardt in it.

(15:14):
Highly recommend Love and you'retaking a pause on reading but we
are watching Paradise, which if you want a new show, haven't
seen Paradise, that's a great one I'm trying to force.
It on my mom, she's like, what is it about?
I'm like and then I basically tell the whole thing.
You're the worst of the worst. Don't ever tell Amanda what
you're watching. If she's already seen it, she'll
tell you the whole thing. That's horrible, I know.

(15:36):
Especially with this like episode, it leaves you on a
cliffhanger with what this Alex a lot.
Of these episodes have left us on so I'm like Google.
What can I find out? Oh my God.
It's on Hulu. Paradise.
Very good. Very good.
I see. Everyone I know about it, I love
it. I love Sterling K Brown, I.
Have to talk about Virgin River.New season just came out.
Binged it done so good. I'm obsessed.

(15:57):
Like, I mind you, like I'm someone that like I'm very hit
and miss with like love stories.Yeah.
And this is basically like a love TV show and it's just, oh,
I love it so much. Good.
OK, I will. Literally look at you go and I'm
like, look how cute they are. Look how cute they are.
Are we this cute? He's like, yes, what?
Else I'm like, you see that house he built?
What else? He built that.
House for her. Oh my God, I need you to chop

(16:20):
the wood. Yes, and I.
Need you to. Build this like they're like, we
need to move into a cabinet. You're like, we gotta go find
farmland. Yes, that is so funny and cute.
OK, Yes, Alex Earl on a happy note before we get into our bad
stories. So proud.
Of her our. Queen launched a skin care
brand, which is very on brand for her.

(16:41):
She's been very candid about herjourney with acne and her skin.
And I love that she's so real. She's like, here's a zoom in on
the pimples I have this week. Like she's that's, she's always
been that girl. So cute.
She puts the little patches on her, she goes through like a
whole thing and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna stop giving my
man a hard time going through 1 though.
She's so like real. Like let me eat a burrito with

(17:02):
no hands. Like let me show you my pimples
all over my chin. She's herself.
I love that about her. I love that she's doing a skin
care line and I think it's very much on brand and her marketing
for this line is called Real Actives.
Real is spelt with an E at the end.
It's like a rearrangement of herlast name, which I love.
Her marketing was like sending puzzle pieces to New York City

(17:25):
influencers and like people in her circle and then you they she
like put each piece together to unveil and like everyone watch.
We were all sat like as each puzzle piece came from each
influencer. I thought that was genius.
I thought the little episode or advertisement clip that she
posted, she looked beautiful. She looks so incredible.

(17:47):
So yeah, I'm excited for that. I think this is a good move for
her for sure. And I the only thing that
bothered me was like some, and Iget it, it's like a guessing
game. What is Alex doing?
Whatever. And they even had like a hashtag
like WTF is Alex doing? Some girl like looked up the

(18:07):
filings and like was like, this is the name.
It's gonna be real actives. And like she was like showing
her proof and this and that. And it's like just let her
freaking unveil the puzzle pieces.
Like, why do you have to like make?
I just thought I would have blocked that girl.
It bother you would have it really bothers me.
Like what do you gain for doing this?
And it went so viral. And then, like TMZ posted like

(18:30):
what it's gonna be called before.
Like come on, This is a great segue into.
TMZ Yeah, we. Didn't need to do that.
Lots of TMZ stories happening this week.
TMZ. You guys are making that money,
honey. You're doing a lot.
You're busy. They were very.
Busy this past week. We cannot mention TMZ with our
getting into our girl Huda this Siana.

(18:52):
We just want to say we're sending you lots of love yes and
we see that she's like still singing and doing things that
and like she's like on a jet ski.
She's at the gym. She's trying to stay like,
positive. Honestly, I think the way she's
handling it is so mature and bitches hate to see it.
Hate to see it. She's focusing on her.
She's letting her lawyers deal with everything.
Everything coming out between the text messages, everything

(19:15):
with her and Louis and his baby mother.
I'm not even going to name you. No, I guess we can name everyone
knows her name. Nicole.
She's saying that she got a restraining order on Huda.
What's very. Difficult is people are like, Oh
my gosh, this has happened and she Huda threatened Nicole and
she has. There's all of these documents

(19:36):
to prove it. First of all, the documents are
only Nicole's statements. So there are no documents of
this evidence that proves it. That's stronger than like
anything that Hooda has releasedit.
It's one statement versus another statement.
The documents that you guys are so pressed about are Nicole's

(19:58):
words to the police. The.
Text messages aren't even to Nicole.
They're not about Nicole and. Those are not.
We don't even know the validity of those messages.
The only thing that came out from the filing is like a
handwritten statement from Nicole.
And there's nothing to say that Hooda.
And we know as a mother that shewould never threaten her own

(20:21):
child or somebody else's. And there's nothing even in
those text messages to show thatand.
God forbid there is some truth to those messages.
I also see it as like, you know what?
I don't know many girls that have never crashed on their
life, especially at that age. I have been and if anything I
feel for her more. I'm just like, you know, you

(20:41):
shouldn't be feeling this way about a man.
You should go get help, you know, And I say that so whole so
wholeheartedly because I care about you, you know, and I think
people need to have that approach instead of being like,
she's crazy, She's this, she's that, like her fans are crazy.
And it's like, give it a fuckingrest, the thing.
Is like it's so frustrating thatNicole was able to like it just
is all very fishy to me. She files this restraining order

(21:05):
against Huda a month after this this alleged incident happens.
That doesn't make sense to me. Then doesn't have any proof of
any threats whatsoever. So this to me seems like petty
BS. You got involved in a fight of a
relationship that had nothing todo with you.
You're making it this big deal and now you're trying to get

(21:26):
custody and run away with your kid.
It all sounds very calculated tome.
You have no proof of any sort ofthreats.
What, you're just going to find some tea of this girl having a
fight with her man and maybe in a moment she didn't feel secure
about things and you're going toblow that up.
And all of a sudden, all of yourposts on Instagram, you had

(21:46):
archived, you put your pictures back up like it's and then all
of a sudden and you want to get custody and you waited a month
to do all of this. That doesn't make sense.
If you felt like you were in danger, why did you not do it?
In that moment you called the police.
If if she had really done the things that you said, why were

(22:06):
why was Hooda not arrested? Yep, I agree my three issues
with Nicole. One is girl you're pushing 40
and you're bullying a 25 year old what is wrong with you?
Like I no comment on that. And then second, you're writing
letters to free Diddy looking atyou sideways.
People are believing yes. And then third, when you go to

(22:29):
your reshared post, the stuff you're posting is very
subliminal. It's like you cannot stand your
baby daddy and you cannot stand the woman he's with.
And it's like, give it a rest. So it's very clear, like, what
your motives are. And I'm really frustrated with
the people who are sitting here being like, but there's court
documents to support Nicole's claims.
Her court documents are her statements to the police.

(22:50):
She could be lying about her statements.
She could be exaggerating. She could say whatever she
wants. And then when a statement comes
out on Huda's behalf, everyone'slike, well, that's just a
statement. Those are just people on Huda
side. Yeah, well, the court documents
that you're so obsessed with arejust Nicole's side and Nicole's
words like let this go to court.Let this actually let the legal

(23:11):
process play out. And I do want to read some.
Go ahead. Yeah.
And the last? Thing I'll say about it too is
like if you think about it, all the stuff that TNZ is getting,
it's not stuff they're validating, it's stuff that's
being towed to them. So you know, you can only take
so much with a grain of salt, especially because we see
conflicting things. They release this, but then it's
like, but then someone on her side says this.
So I think people just need to see how it plays out and just

(23:32):
shut up about it. They've.
Shared both sides of the matter.They also confirmed that there
was a phone call in February on the night that Nicole claims
that this happened to the LAPD. OK, so if they did call the
LAPD, why was there no arrest? Because there was no wrongdoing.
Why wouldn't they have arrested her?
So this is the statement that Huda's that has been filed that

(23:57):
has been shared with TMZ. So TMZ wrote this, the reality's
well this is what actually Hoodamade a statement 1st and she
said I'm aware of what's being said and it's not true.
I'm handling everything the right way by letting legal take
care of it. I appreciate everyone who
continues to support me now. I said say Lesis.

(24:22):
Now, sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ Hooda has
never been in contact with Nicole, nor has she ever
threatened Nicole or Nicole and Louie's child.
If anything, our sources say Nicole has prevented Huda from
meeting or speaking with the child, seemingly out of envy,
since Huda and Louie began theirrelationship.

(24:44):
Sounds about right. Additionally, our sources claim
Nicole has made hateful and false statements about Huda and
Huda's child, despite Huda neverhaving spoken negatively about
anyone's kid. According to the sources, the
allegations that Huda threatenedher own child are entirely
false, obviously, and both Huda and Louis are attentive parents

(25:06):
who consistently prioritize their children above all else.
It's insane. Do you really think that Louis
would still be with Huda if Hudaendangered his child?
No. And then I also see it as if
that was the case, which is not.You chose to have a baby with
this man. You chose to be with a guy 25

(25:27):
years old who was. Still going on reality dating
shows and. It's like, what did you?
I don't understand. Like, that's why I don't know if
there's any truth to anything, she says.
Yeah. And I find that there's a lot on
Huda's side of the story that negates that.
And I think she's handling it the right way by being like, you
know what, we're gonna let the court process play out.

(25:49):
It will be handled legally as itshould.
She's taking the High Road. She's not going and bashing and
doing. She's just like keeping her
peace and doing her thing the way she's.
Moving shows me that the way Nicole's trying to portray her
is not who she is. She's showing us that's not who
she is. She has not given us any reason
to like think anything about hersince she left the villa.

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She's not cloud chasing. She's literally just focusing on
her, her family, her love life and that's it.
The problem? Is that people love to see
things like this and run with them, especially when it was at
first only one side of the story.
And that's like what forced her to even have to address it.
And it's so frustrating because I'm sure you want to share and
you have so much that you could say and you don't.

(26:33):
And it's really sad. But you know, people are just
like living for these and this is what they do, I think.
She needed to release that statement.
I even mentioned to you, like with everything coming out, I
was kind of getting annoyed. I'm like, sis, defend yourself.
Say something like, you know, I want to back you and I'm not
saying I believe anything being said about you, but I need you
to say something. When she posted that I was just

(26:53):
like, that's all I needed to get.
Yeah, for sure. We got you sis.
We're sending love and light your way and hopefully this will
soon be a thing of the past. I believe their court date is
April 3rd, so that's next week. That's bigger and better, yeah.
Speaking of Amaya, your songs are coming out.

(27:14):
Girl go. Back to the studio.
It's. Not good, no.
You know how I feel like sometimes women come out with,
like, songs that are, like, catchy, you know?
But it's like, I could have donethat, too.
Yeah. You know, that's how I'm feeling
right now. I'm not seeing it and being

(27:34):
like, wow, talent. No offense.
It was giving rhyming. We stop, OK.
We wish you luck, though. I'm excited to hear it.
No way. Like.
We're just, you know, you didn'tsupport.
I know I'm. Just fine.
I know like any time you like, Ihear anything you post.
I'm looking at you sideways and I'm trying to like, not yeah.

(27:55):
We're working on that, yeah. OK.
I'll leave that very defensive. Of our system.
OK, more baby Mama drama. Are we ready for the next one?
Which one? The Bachelorette has been
cancelled. Taylor.
Frankie Paul's season will not be daddy.
Drama. Maybe daddy drama for sure.

(28:17):
OK, so I feel like when I heard The Bachelorette was gonna be
Taylor, I was like, this is interesting touching your.
Pearls. Yeah, I was.
Like do they know what she's howshe got on TV and all these
things and what's called but I'mlike, you know what, whatever,
like growth, you know. And then when everything was

(28:37):
released by Dakota right before The Bachelorette was gonna air,
we see this video from three years come out of her abusing
Dakota and it's hard to watch mostly because there's a kid in
it. You know it's.
It was hard to see it. I really had a difficult time.

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She was like lit up. She was throwing stools, she was
grabbing at him, she was kickingat him.
The baby's crying like it's sad.And for me, Dakota's a devil
because your first instinct is to take out your phone and
record. Yeah.
Now how about, how about call the police?
How about exactly remove her from that situation?
So. And she was.
Really drunk. They were in the middle of a

(29:20):
fight. You know this.
You're not trying to deescalate it.
You whip out your phone and you're saying you always do this
Taylor, like you're narrating, you know what you're doing and
you're you're recording. So your side of things that led
to whatever moment that we're seeing for a few seconds is not
on there because you're not going to release anything that's
damaging about you. Regardless, we don't condone how

(29:43):
she was acting like that's, you know, I, I it breaks my heart to
see women have to act like this and think a man is worth it.
Yeah, I would never put my handson a man.
And you know, I would be way done with someone before even
thinking of doing that. You know, there's way other
outlets like girl, we would havetaken you to that place where
you smashed things. Yeah, I.
Think like it's a very she's very wrapped up in a very toxic

(30:06):
relationship and it's like this sick like almost like when
people are like in addiction andit's like this sickness, like
she needs to be pulled out of it.
And this video being released inconjunction with what I would
say is the worst season for her of Mormon wives.
It's just not a good look. Like she's in a very toxic

(30:26):
cycle. But Dakota himself is also not
innocent. And it's funny to me that The
Bachelorette decides to pull Taylor Frankie Paul's season
over a domestic abuse incident that they were fully aware of.
This happened three years ago in2023.

(30:48):
The incident was very well documented on their season of
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. There's an arrest record.
She was punished. Legally, there is there are
podcast recordings of Taylor admitting to all of this, of
Dakota saying the same thing. So this was 100% public

(31:09):
knowledge. It there was a record, there was
everything that ABC said, Yep, we're going to make her The
Bachelorette. And they only pulled the season
when the public saw it. So to me, this is not taking a
stance against domestic violence, this is trying to

(31:31):
curtail any public outrage for having her as a Bachelorette
after they've seen the video. But you were fine with her
actions before people saw. I have no sympathy for ABC.
This is who you chose and you wanted her for Clay knowing you
wanted it for views. You didn't care about her past,
obviously. So the fact that you guys don't
release it, that is on you. You know, and even for I do feel

(31:54):
bad for the men that went on theshow, not because I feel like
they deserve like some go on it for clout.
We know that. But they did take time out of
their life to film. So I heard they are suing ABC
and then I don't know if I mighthave been a rumor but I heard
ABC is considering suing. So they.
Can't. That's a.
Rumor. But The thing is like people who

(32:17):
have spoken out about this that are legal experts is are like,
if anything, it would be Taylor suing ABC because they have and
she's still apparently getting now there's a story that I just
saw that she's still getting fully paid for the season even
though it's not airing. Because the only reason they
would pull a season is due to their morality clause, which

(32:40):
stands from the moment of signing.
And this is something they were fully aware of and signed off on
and approved and decided we're still going with this girl.
So it's it backfired on them formaking a choice, fully knowing
that she was arrested over a domestic abuse incident and they
have like supposedly no leg to stand on.

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But she who's like invested her time and all of these things and
all these brand deals that have fallen through because of it.
And you have all these men, likethey more so have rights to sue
than ABC does because they signed up for this.
Two things I want to say before we get into the show of her
right before she went on The Bachelorette.

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The fact that this happened three years ago and you know,
she knew Dakota recorded her acting this way.
I could never allow that man in my bed again.
Like we would be Co parenting. That's it.
I would have no respect for him 'cause this is something that
you know, can ruin me one day. And you know, I wasn't in my
right mind. We're obviously talking for each
other. I don't know how to up until she

(33:44):
went on The Bachelorette, she was still dealing with this man.
Knowing that happened, knowing he gave that to the police,
knowing that, you know, like I feel like there's a knowing that
her kids may see this one day. I don't know how she, I don't
think. It's so hard because when you're
in it, it's so different. I don't think there's like
rational thought there. I think, like I said, it's like
when someone's addicted to a drug, it's like, yeah, just stop

(34:06):
doing the drug. Like this is something where if
you're a victim of a like a really toxic, manipulative
relationship, sometimes like youreally need to be like pulled
out of it. Intervention.
Like it's, it's, she's in so deep, like she's hard to even
recognize in this last season. She's a mother.
Though, like I, that I have, I like care.

(34:28):
I care and I feel for her, but Ialso think like you need to set
an example for your kids. Like they should be like you.
Like I feel like Dakota shouldn't even be a thought in
her mind, you know, especially when she's just raising like her
children. And that's what's hard for me.
I get it when you're young and you're like naive and all this
stuff, but I thought she might be a little more mature in that
aspect of like having a family. I.

(34:48):
I think it's like it's so hard to understand because there's
women who like stay in relationships where they get
beat. There's women who stay in
relationships where they get violated.
Like it's a big, there's a wholeother layer to this that's like
hard on the outside to comprehend.
I just hope that like she gets help for herself, for her
family. And we have seen it's so crazy

(35:12):
because Dakota's a genius at this.
Like he is very good at like being in a public setting.
And you look at him and it's like, wow, he's a likable,
rational guy. He acts, he's the type of guy
that like will like set something on fire, then like
show up to the scene and be like, Oh my God, there's a fire.
You guys, let me help you get out.

(35:33):
Like it's so insane. Like even the other women on the
show have said this about him where like you hear all these
things and then you see him comearound in the group and you're
like, but he's like a nice, likable guy.
And it's funny that we have a clip that's resurfaced from the
Vile Files podcast from a year ago, before this even happened,

(35:53):
where Macy and some of the othergirls are sitting down to
interview and Taylor was supposed to be there.
And Nick is like, well, what happened?
Like where's Taylor? And Macy says you can blame
Dakota and he's like ask following up on that.
And she's like, well, this is what happens anytime she has
something big coming out, anytime there's like a big brand

(36:15):
deal appearance, something that's going amazing for her, he
finds a way to sabotage and ruinit and fight with her and like
ruin her moment in whatever way that he can.
And now her season's about to drop.
And three days before he releases this video.
It's classic. It's classic.
This is. Why it's so hard for me to
understand because it's happenedso many times that it's like

(36:37):
girl choose you and she has suchamazing friends.
Family's there for her. Like she has the best support
system, the best. And I think she will get through
this and seeing just see talk about everything going on with
yeah, Taylor is just Jessie's your girl.
That's your friend. Like you.
I think leaning on her is the best thing you can do.
She's very level and she's like.Very, you know, you have so many

(36:59):
amazing opportunities in front of you like you've made it.
You are, you've got your own show.
You're so beloved. You have all this money now,
like I hope that like this is such a great wake up call for
her to and I think now, like I think it's gonna it's at a point
now where like everyone's gonna take accountability for this and
like get her like away from thisman.

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And you see, now after this happened with the season being
pulled, he filed for custody, temporary custody was granted
and she can't even see their sonuntil April when they have a
court hearing. So like at this point, you know,
it's gotta it's gotta be the end.

(37:43):
I do feel like she's in a hole that like she lost herself
completely. I she'll she'll find her way
back. I think Dakota will always be a
new life. That's it's inevitable.
Like that's just, but I do think, like you said, she you
have everything going for you. You could have anyone you want.
You can have a man that treats you great, you know, and I think

(38:06):
Dakota will be your last toxic relationship.
And I unfortunately, he's just avery, very, very big lesson
learned. Yeah.
And I will say this about The Bachelorette being cancelled.
All the headlines are using thatterm cancelled.
But if you look at Disney's statement, they said we will not

(38:27):
release the season. We will not release the season,
not the season is cancelled. We will not release the season
at this time. And then they went on to say our
focus is on supporting the family.
Who's the family? Taylor, Frankie, Paul and her
son. Then Taylor releases this
statement and in Taylor's statement, she thanks the

(38:48):
network for supporting her in and in all of this.
So clearly ABC has her back in this.
And she went so far as to make claims of physical abuse from
Dakota in her statement, mental abuse, retaliatory acts, like
there's a whole can of worms here.
So I think the network is just like backing and supporting her

(39:11):
in this legal journey. And because they said at this
time, you have to remember, Taylor, Frankie Paul was the
choice to revive the franchise after such low ratings.
They need this money like they can't afford to have filmed this
entire season and then have nothing come of it and lose
money and all of these brand deals like they're going to lose

(39:33):
the franchise. Yeah, I think they'll release it
as well. I think they're going to wait
for things to die down a bit. And also, I know we're going to
get into Jesse, Jesse Draper andher on Caller Daddy.
But Jesse even said like she cantell when she came back from
filming that she was a differentperson.
She's way more level headed. She was happy, yes.
So I think her coming back and Dakota hated to see it.

(39:55):
He hated that she came home and she was done with him.
And I bet you that's the case. And he was like, well, you know
what? And he did what he did.
But I I do agree with Jesse. Think you know this is going to
be her last hurdle of her just getting through this, but.
And I think too, seeing, you know, when you see a video like
that, like it's to me, it's alsoindefensible.

(40:16):
Like, yes, she may also be a victim, but like she was an
abuser as well. And but I do think so many
people have, seeing how complex this relationship is and ABC is
kind of doing a pulse check. Like there are so many people
that are supporting Taylor, Frankie, Paul in all of this and
seeing that this is maybe not just like a linear thing.

(40:39):
And I think that seeing that shestill has all this support,
they're like testing the waters.They'll let it die down and then
they'll release it. Yep.
I don't think this is who Tayloris through her core.
You know, regardless, we don't put hands on men, butts or on
anyone. But I do think, you know, Dakota
really made her not herself did.You see in the final scenes of

(41:04):
season 4 when Taylor is going into film The Bachelorette, do I
have to pause? No, really.
Not only does like Dakota come and spend the night before she
leaves he sleep, they sleep together.
She doesn't want to go anymore. She's like lying to her whole
family. He loved it.

(41:25):
And then when she's like has to give her phone in to go and film
The Bachelorette, he's like Facetiming her and he's like
save me a rose. The manipulation is great.
This smirks on his face when he last bombs.
Her. Yes, she's.
Blinded, don't you? See, she's in this sick and
he's. Laughing to the side yes he's

(41:46):
like I got this girl eating right out of my hand yes and
then. He's like, let me go F around
with one of the girls in the friend group, let me go sexed
her mom's fear. While she's the way I would do
me, yeah. And then, and then I'll tell her
she's the one who chose this. I've wanted to be with you all
along. I just.
Need to know Hulu production Youdidn't want to give ABC the
heads up that's. What I've been saying make this

(42:09):
make any sense, Okay, Hulu and ABC are.
It's all like the Disney, ABC, Hulu, it's all the same
overarching company. So how did the team on Hulu not
be like, hey, ABC, she's still with her baby daddy over here.
Like it's she's about to not geton the plane.

(42:31):
Maybe she's not the right pick for The Bachelorette.
She's still, she could be pregnant right now.
Like it's so insane that no one gave a heads up that Taylor
Frankie Ball was not ready to itmakes.
Me think they chose her as a joke.
Like I think they knew that she was acting like and they're
like, you know what? People are going to watch just
for her. Who cares what she did on Mormon
Wives? And I think the opposite.

(42:53):
Like we're losing the plot. We used to love The
Bachelorette, the whole bachelorfranchise, because it's seeing
people fall in love and hope that they stay together and show
that it works. So now I already was going into
this like after watching Where was I?
I'm like, if I'm going to watch The Bachelorette, I'm not even
that hopeful because Taylor's literally with her baby.
Daddy up until she leaves. Yeah, exactly.

(43:14):
I would. I would have loved to see
Miranda. Justice you need a divorce chase
so you can be I would. Love to see it.
I you might not like this, but I'm seeing rumors that they may
do, which I don't mind that they'll that they may switch it
up and do a live season. They're saying, which is kind of
interesting because you could watch it in real time.

(43:34):
We don't have to wait because love.
Violence. Such a hit I get like period.
But they're saying there's like a little thing going on.
Just spit it out. Online.
That it might be Maura. Maura Higgins.
I tinked A traitors, yeah. You had to say that I had to
give. You a little no I.
Wouldn't mind it. Okay, I would like fashion.
Would eat, but like she. Lives in the States.

(43:57):
Would it be like she'd be datingsomeone here?
I just don't know where it wouldbe.
Yeah, it would be. Here, be here.
So she's American then? Yeah, no, I'm just saying she's
not a she. I don't think she's from here,
right? She's not from.
Here. No, that's just.
Different they would have to. Figure it out.
But I think like she's building her career here, so she's
probably going to be here. Like she's really full.
Accent's cute. Yeah, as long as she, as long as

(44:17):
Kyle Cook stays away, I would. Be in it for the looks and like
her little funny, like quirky, like she dresses.
So cute, yeah. So her fashion I will never.
Forget how you trusted Rob, but yeah, we still love you.
Yeah, period. OK, Jesse, Draper went on.
Call her daddy. Amid all of this, Jordan could
not stand that he was not getting the attention, so he had

(44:39):
to go and file for divorce. His porcupine looking at his
leprechaun. Ass.
Literally. When Jesse kind of let it all
out, you know, put everything onthe table about how their
marriage was not perfect. After about a year, she just saw
red flags. How controlling he is it, it's

(44:59):
the brand. Like it does not surprise me one
bit. He wants to be the man, but not
like it's just he wants to control.
Gender roles, but he doesn't work.
Yeah, like OK, he wants. To stay home and watch the kids
but wants to go play golf but wants.
To play golf and there's a full time nanny and he doesn't help
with the kids until night time and when she leaves and no.
Offense, but like, I feel like aman should like, and it happens.

(45:23):
There's times when men are stay at home dads and that's
beautiful, you know, And they love their wife up, love being a
father, love doing all those house things while their wife is
holding it down, you know. And I think the way he treats
her, it's like you're the way you're treating her is so
disgusting. And you do nothing.
Yeah. And you do nothing.

(45:44):
This man is a whole coward. I could not believe that Jesse
has been. She's let her name be dragged
through the mud all of last season.
Damn well knowing this man was paying for escorts and have an
orgy and having orgies first. Off of course he got to pay for

(46:06):
it like. Let him know.
Let him know that better not be.Jesse's money?
No. It it was.
The thing is, she found out about him paying escorts two
weeks before the Marciano scenario happened.
And she had said, and she kept it very quiet, that they were

(46:26):
not doing well. They had been going through
things in their relationship, his infidelity.
She was even, she was just talking about like the mental
abuse and the fighting and the screaming and all of that.
But she never even let this man,like she never let out that he
was cheating. And like, yeah, she goes away
with her girls. Her marriage is failing.
Like she had a lapse in judgement.

(46:47):
And you can feel how sincerely sad she was, but she let her.
He let her say that she was having an affair for an entire
season and swallowed that and took the blame.
And every interview she did, I was having an affair.
I was having an affair. Didn't even sleep with a man.
Did not even sleep with a man. What a coward that he let her
say this to the entire world on national television and did not

(47:12):
ever act like he, like she maybedid this for a reason.
Like you literally slept with somebody else and you're letting
her take the fall and she didn't.
I don't condone cheating at all,but when Jesse did what she did,
which was technically kissing Marciano, I already knew things
were not good with Jordan. I already knew a woman doesn't

(47:34):
run to another man if her man's like.
I could tell the way Jordan talks to her makes her feel all
the stuff she keeps doing to herself.
He probably makes her feel so small, doesn't tell her how
beautiful she is, and she's freaking gorgeous so she's so.
Insecure because of this man andshe has a.
Great heart and I does it. I'm not surprised that this man
was doing him and it LED her to do the little things she did
compared to what he's doing. Yes.

(47:55):
And she even said like, I take the fall.
And she said she did this hopinghe would divorce her.
And she didn't care how look, she just wanted out of that
relationship. And you know why he didn't
divorce her? He needs her money.
Where would he go from her To what he?
Doesn't want to work, so. It kind of bitter in the ass
'cause it's like damn I protected his name.
I was hoping he would leave me and he won't and now I'm stuck

(48:15):
in this until she finally did what was best for her and I'm so
proud of her. I.
Loved that she just went and aired all of this out.
Jordan filed for divorce and he's like once again such a
loser. Like they had this discussion.
She was like, I can't do this. Like I this is not I don't want
to be in this marriage. They decided to file together.
They decided they just sit theirkids down and do it together.

(48:36):
They were going to handle it andhe ran to the court to file on
his own. They said they were going to put
down irreconcilable differences.He puts down infidelity on her
side. Who did he call Right after TMZ
delivers a statement. You and freaking Dakota.
That was. The craziest I felt for her so

(48:59):
much and the fact that she was like in such a like control.
She kept talking about how controlling he was and how he
would like stalk her, hack her things, spy on her.
She couldn't be in the home because he was like watching the
cameras and listening in. He gives.
Up like. That's so crazy, like Alex was
saying, because Jesse's been staying in a hotel and Alex was

(49:20):
like, why are you always the oneto leave?
Like this is your home, you pay for it.
Like make him leave. He's so nasty about it.
He's like, well, you're the one who wants this, so you go and
she's like, but The thing is forme, I don't even know what other
cameras or things he has set up in the house that he's watching
me on. So I feel safer being in a hotel
than like whatever he could be watching or doing when I'm home.

(49:42):
Could you imagine you don't feelsafe in your home like that?
I. Can't imagine that anyone's
hearing this, watching this, watching Mormon Wives and thinks
let me date this man. If there's anyone that dates
this man after, it's. There will be.
That will be insane. To me, because I can tell he
would be like this with everyonecontrolling like psycho like I'm
so happy she got out of that andshe.
Said, like, her final straw, too, was like, a couple weeks

(50:03):
ago, her sister and her sister'shusband, that they were out to
dinner and someone approached them and they were like, oh, is
Jessie still with her husband? And then was like, oh, yeah, we
see him at these parties all thetime.
These, like, sex parties where you, like, pay for orgies and
stuff. How embarrassing.
I feel like also would really made me just so mad is the way

(50:24):
she found out he filed. TMZ sent her a message asking
how she is. Yeah.
Yeah. Like we have a child together.
Yeah, our children. I don't.
We have children together, we'vebeen dating.
I'm the mother of your kid and you don't have the decency to
tell me first. I have to find out.
He won. This is what he wanted to do,
such a. Loser he is.

(50:45):
And the fact that he put infidelity knowing damn well
that needs to be studied. What?
I want to set her up with someone.
Oh. God, you're itching.
I don't know. She's just such a beautiful
soap. Like, I have to think on this,
but like, she deserves the best.Yeah, she she's so beautiful
inside and out. Stay away from Marciano and I.
Have to say like I feel bad for her that she went and got all of

(51:08):
this like work done and felt so insecure because she's always
been so beautiful, but her work eats, she looks, she looks
great. I hope she like starts to feel
like come into her own start to feel so confident.
And then I got like flashbacks from like Chris from love is
blind when she was saying how did you hear this part?
She he was so controlling and would say things to her Pilates.

(51:28):
Yes, I want like more gender roles.
Like I want you to be in your feminine and I'll be in my
masculine. I want you to go to Pilates
every day. Excuse me?
She's running an empire and paying all the bills.
And what do you mean like, in what way when these men are
asking for Pilates? Like, in what way?
Like for her body, for her perfect body compared to his?

(51:51):
Like, I'm so confused by what does that mean?
And literally if you want to be in your masculine and you like
gender roles then get up and work.
Why is she paying for everything?
Why don't you have a job? Why don't you?
Dad talk is going to be a. Flop.
Oh my God I'm blocking all y'all.
I love her. She was like, yeah, that started
off as a joke. And then he became so

(52:12):
competitive and like got sick about it.
And she was like, it was so cringy.
See the thing that's? Cringy and I'm so sorry for
anyone that takes offense to this.
I don't mind a man as an influencer but I like it more
when it's like a lifestyle. Like you're a cook so you're
showing us you're a a fitness person.
You're doing fitness stuff. But if you are on here doing
dances. We're like, and you doing thirst

(52:34):
traps? Yeah, giving.
Fuck, boy. Like trying too hard and then
you're like, literally this isn't something you came up
with. Yeah, like, mom talks always
been a thing. You would not have dad talk if
it was mom talk. Like I just can't.
It's still cringe and for. Him to say like we don't want to
ride their coattails anymore. We want our own thing.
First of all, dad talk is literally the definition of
riding their coattails and even Jesse said it in the interview.

(52:56):
She's like he doesn't like get. Maybe he's had one thing on his
own, but like even when like dadtalk gets like a deal or
anything, it has to include me like whenever the brand wants
something, it's like involving me with him.
So it's like, it's not even likehe can do this on his own
without her as it is. Cameo.
'S going to be his GoFundMe. This cameo.
Is gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna get a cameo from him and it's

(53:19):
gonna be a message it's gonna bea message to my man saying how
masculine he is and how he so my.
God and how he loves me. So right.
And he would never cheat on me or hire or get with an escort
and none of those things. And I want him.
I want him to come out of his mouth, yo.
That was like I I can't and thenthe only.
Thing I'm watching Caller Daddy.I was a little disappointed to
hear that she did sleep with himone last time, you know.

(53:39):
But I will let it pass, you know, just because you know
what? It is to me.
That bothered me more. It wasn't like I'm on my way,
like we're separating like one last time for old time's sake.
It wasn't like that. It was him begging and her
saying no repeatedly. That's what made me.

(54:00):
Feel like like. I can't act like I've never been
like, all right, one last time, even though we're done and
wanted it. She literally was forced and she
was talking about how her body had been rejecting him and how
she felt so that there was like a moment where she was like,
this is Apsa like your body willtell you.
She's like, I would start to feel sick.

(54:21):
I would want to throw up every time.
Like even if you would touch my arm, I'd be like, don't touch me
like you repel him. So the fact that like, it's not
like they were just like, whatever, like I'm leaving.
This is our last time. It was like he said, come on,
please, please, please, please. That's like, Oh my God, that
makes me sick. But I'm I'm trying to look at my

(54:42):
notes to see if we missed anything.
He would blackmail her all the time with the text from or try
to. Record her and make her try and
get aggressive and then. Be like, oh, what are you gonna
be like, Taylor? Now it's sick.
Like this whole thing is sick. Come here, come to the front,
please. Please the people that raise

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this lame excuse of a man. You did an awful job.
Oh my. God, it's so bad.
It's. Embarrassing.
I would be embarrassed if that was someone.
It's really, really sad. And I think we're seeing this
common theme too, where these men cannot handle these women
being successful. Like all of their marriages are
falling apart. And it's just like sad because I
feel like they in their culture,like they're supposed to like

(55:26):
marry like young and just like find somebody and start having a
family. And it's like it's backfiring
because you, you're not really knowing these people to their
core. And it's like so sad to see.
I it's just look at Jesse compared to this poor excuse of
a man. Like the difference is so
extreme. Oh, and girl.

(55:46):
Literally, we got to get out of Utah.
Let's get out of dating. Oh my God.
For real. I'm going to set you up with
someone. I got you OK.
Aside from this, I'm in the callher Daddy interview.
Alex asked Jesse, has anyone heard from Ben from last season?
And then Jesse starts laughing and she said, stay tuned.

(56:08):
Then AKA the man that Taylor, Frankie Paul was kind of fooling
around with before The Bachelorette.
Is he come is he's been in the block?
Can we also, you know, also the alleged winner of The
Bachelorette, Doug Mason. He's like, at first I thought he
was like really sweet. He came out and and spoke out in

(56:28):
support of Taylor because her season got like cancelled and
whatever. But now I feel like he's just
trying really hard to like get his get his time.
Somebody like tagged him about like, oh, make him the next
bachelor. And he was like commenting back
like, yeah, like I'm that would be fire.
And like, he's just like interjecting himself into a lot
of things. And I'm starting to get the I

(56:49):
wouldn't. Want to see the Bachelor be
someone we don't know? I'm.
Starting to get the ick because he's like been really just
wanting this class and I. Hope 10100 gosh guys, I hope
Taylor and Ben aren't a thing because that girl needs to not
be dating. I know she's not be dating I
mean. Maybe if he's like like a good
distraction for her and it's like someone familiar if it gets

(57:10):
her away from Dakota, I don't think it's the right answer if.
My brother brought Taylor home. I'd be like, no, no, no, no.
That girl needs some healing like.
You a match. No, that's what, like, I love
Taylor. Like I love her, you know, I
know she's going through it, butI think she needs to focus on
her. Yeah.
Agree. Now, as we wrap this up, should
we just any comments you want tosay on the season of Mormon

(57:33):
wives as a whole? I think we should talk about the
Jen and Whitney. Well, I will say that's what I
was going to say, Like I like Whitney this season.
I I hope this is generally who she is, but I, you know, I feel
like I've known her the last three seasons and I was sideways
looking at her. But now I really like her and
I'm happy for all the success she's getting.
And Zach, you a lame little bitch.

(57:53):
I feel like Whitney's really coming into her own and I think
it's it shows too that she has some like distance from Demi.
She's doing her own thing. Like she's being her own person.
I think like her biggest flaw was like she just wanted so
badly, like to be liked and whatever.
And I think like now that she's been able to like spread her
wings, she has such a beautiful,healthy relationship.

(58:14):
Like they're Connor and Whitney are actually a great example of
what like a couple should be andsupporting each what supporting
each other looks like. And it's very apparent that the
women who don't have this are not doing like the fact that
would how Jordan reacted to Jesse's success.

(58:34):
Look at that versus how Connor is.
Look at Jen and Zach. What a loser Zach is Zach and
Jordan. Same person?
Yes. Piece of shit.
Don't want their wives to be successful but don't want to
work? Don't want to be home with their
kids? Zach trying to mom shame Jen.

(58:55):
I have no words, everything out of Zack's mouth like he's just,
I don't know what Jen sees in this man and Jen is another one
that I can't stand. But after making the comment
about when you see your wife dancing with someone else at
Disney, come on now, I don't want to hear dancing.
With her dance partner on the Dancing with the Stars as part
of her job. The Disney thing, it's not like

(59:16):
they went on a Disney trip by themselves.
They went on a Disney trip with the Dancing with the Stars
because they did a Disney week on Dancing with the Stars and
it. Makes sense they do content like
that's normal. You're there wasn't.
Even just content. That Disney thing was filmed as
a segment for Dancing With the Stars.

(59:36):
Went. On a trip with the production
team, this wasn't like after hours filming for fun.
I could. Imagine they're practicing and
Zach's like your hand a little more to the side.
He made her feel like absolutely, like the fact that
it's actually laughable, Like obviously we know what a pussy
he is for going to like yell at a woman.

(59:58):
And like I loved how Connor reacted to that whole thing,
like he ate with that. But the fact that like, oh, you
think you're going and defending?
And you're John's worst enemy. Like you're sitting here, she's
living out her dream for a couple weeks.
This will never happen to her again in her life.
This is a lifelong dream she's always had and you're going to
make her feel such guilt about. That's honestly probably why.

(01:00:21):
Like she didn't shine the way she could have when he.
Walked in the into that door to sit with Whitney.
First thing out of his mouth is I'm not scared of Whitney.
Do you you? You think you look like the
supportive husband, Like, No, you look like this little ass
man that came to confront a woman.
Yeah. You know, if you have an issue,
like if you OK, I get a man wanting to defend his wife, then

(01:00:42):
you pick up the phone and you call her husband.
Yeah. You know, you say what you got
to say. And if I feel like it's
relevant, I'll tell my wife. Otherwise, we're going to
probably go out for. Connor, go with Whitney and then
you show up. Exactly.
Be like Whitney, bring your man.Because I'm going to be.
Yeah, that. Whole thing was his.
Parents should be embarrassed and then.
Him pretending like that was himdefending his woman when you
have your wife who's 8 weeks postpartum being like on this

(01:01:06):
one of the most like challengingshows and she's like living out
her dream and you're literally just supporting her downfall in
the she's literally paying the bills.
She's paying the bills. That was so nasty.
I could not believe Jenny. We knew he.
Was this person all along? She was just trying to cover it
up. Like we when we heard that she

(01:01:27):
was going on, we were like, oh, he's going to have a problem
with this other with her partner, of course.
And of course he said something.Of course he did.
How? And if she.
Gets a spin off if he's in it like I just no.
The whole couple of that man, she's just never going like he
is. The reason I will never get over
the fact that he said that Jen trapped him into having another
baby. Your kids going to see that one

(01:01:48):
day. That's so embarrassing.
And then? He's sitting here like, I don't
want to take care of these kids.Why are you dancing so much?
They need their mom and she. And she trapped you but you have
no job how she trap you If anything you're why didn't.
You did Why did you leave medical school?
She and The thing is, that's what's so annoying too, like she
supported him and everything andnow it's her turn and this is

(01:02:08):
what a partnership is and it's. It's not convenient for him.
Yeah, you need to go home and bea mother, but also take care of
us and do it like. It makes no sense.
I don't know how she I don't know how any of these women find
their men attractive except for the few that we love.
But like. No, the whole thing is crazy and
I loved even like the whole season being about these men,

(01:02:28):
like foaming at the mouth to go on Vanderpump Villa.
I loved seeing like the men thatwere just like who was it Macy's
husband that or or which one of them was like I was going to.
Go to the park with my. Kids like and Jordan's like,
yeah, let's. Oh, and like egging on man to be
unfazed is his name. Jacob, did I make that up?
I don't. Know what his name is?

(01:02:48):
Oh my God, that's awful. But yeah, he's.
One of my favorites. Yeah.
I I only know the difference between him and Jace.
Like he's darker featured. So I want to say it's Jacob.
Yep. Let's go.
His name is Jacob. But yeah, he was so sweet.
Yes, he was. And like, I love the event.
Of my man, I feel like. Macy can be herself around him
too and like tell him like things that annoy her like she's

(01:03:10):
just they're so real. I love them.
I'm happy that she like, I feel it sucks that like a lot of the
Taylor drama, like clouded because the women have a lot of
like really exciting things going on in their lives.
And I feel like the focus was somuch on like the toxicity
between Taylor and Dakota. And it's like you have two of

(01:03:30):
the cast members going on Dancing with the stars.
You have Macy dropping this book.
You have things going on like it's just, it was, it's tough
that like all of that was clouded by the yeah, by that and
I love. Like if I had to be friends with
these girls, like I love Macy, Ilove Miranda, I love Jesse, like

(01:03:51):
I would be friends with those things.
Those are my. Girls and then like the whole
thing. I agree.
And I also like I I like Michaela, even though she's
really going through it. I feel bad for her and for Jace
I feel bad for. But what was I going to say,
Shania? I wanted to bring up Shania.
The Shania thing I feel like notthat like yes she's friends.

(01:04:15):
It's more I would say from Miranda.
Like I don't think she owes Taylor anything.
I think Dakota is manipulating. Like, I think he used her, made
love bomb her, and she thought something of it, but she should
have just stayed away from it. Yeah, He made you look stupid.
Miranda's annoyed with you now. Now you put her in the middle of
this. Yeah, but Taylor, I don't feel
bad for her. Like, when are you going to
leave this man he told you he was with and you still sleep

(01:04:36):
with it? Like I just like this man can
sleep with the whole world and even matter to her I feel.
Most bad for Miranda in this scenario, Obviously.
Taylor's not even with this guy.She should.
She's going on The Bachelorette like whatever.
Dakota can do what he wants. However it's like it's totally
wrong of Shania. The first thing is like, that's

(01:04:56):
your best friend of 10 years. I would never do that to you.
I don't care if you introduce meto a girl day one.
And I you mean Miranda? Miranda.
That's her friend of 10 years. Miranda Yes.
OK, what did I say? Sorry, no, no, no.
I just didn't know if she was talking to Taylor Miranda.
Is friends with Shania of 10 years if you introduce me to a
girl and I start going after their baby daddy.

(01:05:20):
I don't care if I'd only met that girl for one freaking
lunch. That's so wrong of me to do that
to you. But you in that position it's
messy. It's you're we're all in a
friend group. That's so wrong.
And Taylor like knows her more than that.
She was talking to her about like her breakup that she had
recently gone through. She was consoling her relating

(01:05:41):
to her. And that night Shania decides to
jump on the her baby daddy's Dick.
Like that's so wrong. That's so wrong.
I I understand her being pissed.I don't think her reaction to
Miranda was appropriate. I think Miranda, like had every
right to be upset. And then you go and see Shania
now has had a threesome with Chase and another woman.

(01:06:03):
Kind of like Macy said Miranda, Utah can't be that small.
Period. Like that's it, you know,
that's. Crazy.
I just wants to get on the show like she's.
Someone I would never want to befriends with.
Like, I think, like, like, whatever.
Like, I like, you know, I mostlyblame Dakota.
You know, like you said, I don'tthink Taylor has a right to be
mad. But I also think she should have

(01:06:23):
never got involved. Like, yeah, you're getting what
you get because you should have known better.
Yeah. What, Was it worth it?
No. And yeah, it's so crazy.
Yeah, no. I agree it was just we want.
To see if we have any other things to say but.
Well, one thing that I do respect that Jesse mentioned
they did stop filming Mormon Wives because of everything

(01:06:45):
going on with Taylor. And I think that was the right
thing to do. I agree.
So I'm happy that we won't see that.
I don't want to revisit that, you know, and if they continue
to film it and we had to go through it, live it, it's just,
it's too much and I. Think that the reason was like
it once again and like their friendship is so beautiful
because a lot of people were like, oh, the women, they were

(01:07:06):
saying the rumors were that the women refused to film with
Taylor. So production has halted.
Jesse gets on here and she's like, no, we all made this
decision to pause filming because a lot is happening in
real time. Nobody wants to say the wrong
thing. We're all processing this

(01:07:26):
information in real time. We don't know what's going on.
And it's so true. Like you may misspeak.
You may think one thing and thenthe next week you find out all
these other details and then it's something else.
You don't want that. Like you don't want to be held
to your word in these moments. You're also like in shock.
You're feeling conflicted feelings about everything going
on. They're like the right thing to
do was just to pause because we had to process all like you

(01:07:49):
don't want your raw like feelings learning all of this to
come out on camera that you can never take those moments back
also. They're going through
litigations right now and I think it's best not to speak on
it. And like I said, I don't want
this to come out a new season and we have to like by then,
hopefully things have moved on and we don't need to hash that
out again. Yeah.

(01:08:09):
I agree so. Perfect way.
To wrap it up, do you wanna say anything else about anything?
Do you wanna wait to talk about Summer House next week since
there ain't nothing going on? Nothing.
Going on summer house such a flop like you guys just need to
cancel the show bring. Back new cast.
Yeah, like. New new cast or just give just
cast or. Buzz.
Yeah. All right, if you're.

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