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(00:07):
Hi girlies, welcome to Girl Please podcast.
It's Selena here. And it's Amanda.
My life feels like that, like Elmo GIF GIF that's like I can't
focus, I can't do anything. I'm having a day.
Every time we say we need a drink like I feel like I need 1

(00:29):
today. I feel that daily.
Yes, it's Amanda here and Alina here.
How you doing Siciana? It's a junior Friday, can't
complain. A junior Friday, Friday eve.
Love that for us. We're recording on a Thursday.
Hopefully this will drop on Friday if all goes to plan with
my editing this evening, but whoknows what the plan.

(00:51):
We're drinking after. Yeah, it depends what day you
guys will get this. Depends on our plans.
Worth the wait. Yes.
I just feel like, I don't know, My eyes started to what
happened? What are you?
Doing I meant to silent my phone, but I.
Didn't silence it. Now everybody silenced your
phones. Oh my God, I'm on 5%.
Are we going to talk about this?What happened?

(01:12):
Listen, I didn't charge my phoneovernight.
Wow. And that's why I died.
So her phone died while we were on the phone, but it was my
karma coming to get me because how many times have my phone
died while we're on the phone? And sometimes I'm like, I wish
you would have just hung up on me, but I know her phone died.
Yeah, you wish I would have hungup.
Yeah. Because I'd be like, oh.
Yeah, because you're like, don'tcall back.

(01:33):
I think that happens sometimes where like you decide you're
like, no, we'll just text and belike, sorry, phone died and then
you know, whatever. But a lot of times I do try to
make it up to you. Well, you know when my phone
dies because I'll message you onInstagram like phone died.
Yeah. So what are you using like?
A computer, Yeah. It's so funny, I've thought that
too. Like I or sometimes I'll
FaceTime from the computer because I'm like, Oh my gosh,
I'm so and it's always at the worst pivotal moment in the

(01:56):
convo. I know you were like in deep
conversation about a story and Iwas like, oh shit.
Yeah. And then I'm like, fuck, I don't
want to recount this. And The funny thing is it
happened back-to-back days with you and Athena, my cousin, who's
also my bestie. So it's like my two sisters who
have been doing it to for years,literally karma came back for me

(02:16):
because you both did it to me back-to-back.
It was like the universe was like, now you're going to see
what it feels like and. That's rare for me, honestly.
Yeah, I know. Actually, I should have checked
on your mentals because I know like you're, I'm definitely the
type B in the sense of like the phone's always dying, the
running late, the chaotic, but like whatever.

(02:37):
I don't know. Like I don't know how to explain
it. Like I think you are very much
like punctual or like early. Your phone is I can't leave.
It's always charged. Unless it's at least above 80.
Oh my God. I kid you not, like I will tell.
Like we can't leave yet. My phone is only on. 50 Maybe I
have a phone problem then because it's like I'm on 80 when

(02:58):
I wake up. Like by the time I take it off
the charger, I brush my teeth and stuff, it's already on 80.
Oh. No.
Yeah, like my phone is dying. Maybe it's not a me problem.
Maybe it's an iPhone problem. Maybe I you know what?
I've noticed too is you see how you're like idled and you keep
that on why that's a setting. Oh my.
God, I was like, oh, she just always wants to be aware of

(03:20):
what's going on, but you can turn that off and and then I'm
like, that's why her battery probably.
Gets. Oh my God, and you never told me
that. Well, I thought you chose to
want to have it. So what she's talking about is
like my phone is idled right now, but you could still kind of
it's dulled, but you see the screen, you see the time, you
see all the I didn't know you chose that.
No, I why would I choose such a route?
My phone is always dying. Yeah, you got to turn that.

(03:41):
Off. Oh my God, the only time I like
it was is when I'm in Pilates and I look from afar and I could
still see the time so I know howmuch time is left in class.
That's when it comes in clutch. I had no idea.
I'm like why is my phone always like this?
Girl when my phone is on 50% I put it on low battery.
Mode Oh my God no that's incredible Oh my God wow I

(04:02):
learned something new today an audience I hope that you did too
all of our girl pleasers I'm just.
Kidding. I had it for like a day and I
was like, this is driving me crazy.
I have the really. God and you just observe and
you're like, well, that's why she.
I was like a battery. And you and you're just judging
in silence. You're judging in silence.

(04:24):
And she don't even try to help afriend.
Like what? Like even if you like.
I don't know. I thought that's how it was.
Yeah. This is it.
Like, yeah. Yeah, it's always on, Yeah.
Wow. Well, now you see.
See the difference once? Now you know that it's not my
fault. I don't understand why it's
well, the 80 when I left on my way to come here and I, I live

(04:44):
like walking distance basically from the studio.
Like I was in the 20 percents and now I'm on five.
So don't you see that? That's weird.
Like, don't you see that? Well, how did it drain all that?
It's on five, you know. Well, now we know.
Speaking of phones, yes, I hope hope you don't mind that I'm
sharing. But I was scrolling and I saw

(05:07):
your TikTok and I was just laughing so hard.
Which one? Amanda, my sis is always, you
know, she's going to bat for thepeople on TikTok.
And I was dying because like, you know, you brought your road
rage conversation to the Internet and you're like,
listen, TikTok audience like I need to talk about people making
a left turn, like move up. So I when I'm behind you, I

(05:29):
could turn to and you're like going in and I'm like, yeah,
girl. And I'm about to like go to the
comments to like hype you up andbe like, yes, it's like you tell
them like we're from New York. All the comments are about I
don't know. It took me a second to
understand. I don't know what algorithm
where this video got sent out into who's FYP, but it's all men

(05:50):
looking at your titties. And I had on like a gym outfit.
No, but you had it was it was a tight yes, tank top and like and
I, you know, they were there forsure, but like they were the
comments were like, what did yousay something?
You were talking and I, I was like, oh, oh, it's like, oh.

(06:13):
See those comments. Sent to the wrong crowd.
I ignored, right? And then I get a comment from
some person that's like, no, a lot of people don't interrupt
because that's how a lot of accidents are.
Caused. Oh my God.
And I'm like new fear and luck, but I'm probably still going to.
Do it. Well, not to trigger you, but I
got into my first car accident with my cousin Athena because of

(06:33):
that very scenario. But I I wasn't in the wrong.
I was the first car in line. I was making a left and it was
green and I'm waiting for the cars to go by and then it's
turning yellow and I'm like, I got to make this fucking turn
and then it turns red. So I have to turn some guy.
I didn't move. I didn't move though, because I
saw him from a mile away. It's yellow.

(06:54):
He's trying to make the red light.
He's driving straight, speeding,and he's not even going
straight. Like he veers off and is like
comes in to me. He's coming straight at Athena
and I. All we're doing is waiting for
our turn to make the left. So we're just watching the car
come at us head on and I can't do anything.

(07:15):
So we were not in motion whatsoever.
We're just sitting in the intersection waiting to make our
left turn and this guy speeds through and comes right into US.
I wasn't even in motion. Well, I pay attention for stuff
like that, like I'm looking at the other cars.
But you can't do anything. What?
Do you mean I'm not going to turn if the car is still going?
Right, I didn't turn. I know what I'm saying is I
understand how that, but I most pay attention to that.

(07:38):
Yeah, yeah, You know, And when the person in front of me goes,
I like, enter behind them. So they're going to get here
first. Yeah, yeah.
So I so yes, you're talking about if you're second in line.
I was first in line, so I didn'thave a choice.
My only option was stay still, which is what I chose, or try to
turn and then my cousin would have taken the brunt of the hit

(07:58):
if I tried to make it. And if I turned left quickly the
passenger side would have been exposed to the car coming.
So then I had to make a conscious decision to just stay
put because if I tried to turn, she would have been hit.
So I was. Well, that makes sense.
Of course you stay. I'd rather other cars just.
Hit me and and the people there was a man.
Shout out to this man pulled over right away.

(08:20):
That's ridiculous. He ran through this red.
He waited until the cops arrivedto give a statement.
He sat there and he was like, listen, like they did nothing
wrong. They weren't even moving.
They were stopped. They were waiting and this guy
fled through a red light to try to make it and smashed into
them. And I, it was so amazing that he
stayed like if you can, if you have an opportunity to be a Good

(08:41):
Samaritan, I always say that like one day I'll pay it
forward. Like if I witness something like
that, I will stop and and vouch for somebody else.
You know, many times tell myselfI need to put a camera in my
car. I have one in my cart.
I just never check out ME. Too girl I see this all the time
we need to get dash cams becauselike even in our like in my
parking garage I in my apartmentcomplex like people are scuffing

(09:04):
me hitting me. I don't trust anybody like you
don't know what's happening in traffic like we really need.
It I trust no one and I have road rage.
I have road rage. I will admit it.
I freaking me and my horn are like.
I love using the horn and then my mom is always like, what's
the matter with you? You don't know if someone has a

(09:25):
gun. You don't know how map.
Have you seen that show? Actually, it's called beef.
Did you ever watch? No, I know of it.
Though OK, so it's on Netflix and season 2 just dropped.
But season 1. So every season there's a new
beef, quote UN quote. But season 1 is this big beef
that started just from a simple road rage incident and like they
wouldn't let it go. Like they were so mad, like the

(09:46):
one person followed her home andthen the IT became it was such a
good show. No, you should watch it.
But now Season 2, there's a whole new cast and a whole new
beef and it's so funny. It's like White Lotus.
But you should. I don't know, I think Lotus is a
little bit. It's a new cast every season.
Oh, in that structure, Yeah, Yeah.
Oh, I actually didn't. Girl, I'm so stupid.

(10:06):
I didn't. Well, not that I'm stupid, you
know, but I am. But I have not ever watched Wait
Lotus, so I didn't know that that was.
Yeah. There's.
Some. So it's like a hotel, they're
coming in and out. Yeah, like new people, new
locations. Yep.
OK. New death.
Someone new died. Oh my God.
OK, yeah, so I didn't know that,but I highly recommend you watch

(10:29):
Beef. It's so good on the list, but I
don't recommend people to be like me.
Have patience. Yeah.
Have them. Yeah.
And I hate driving with people like poor Nico.
I'm like, you could have made that light.
Yeah. Why didn't you make it?
Yeah. I need to chill.
I need. Yeah, yeah, that's okay.
It's the New York in you. It's a piece.
Of and then like I beep at people like it's my job.
If someone beeps at me, I see. Right, I know.

(10:51):
You know what I guess sends me to another dimension.
It's like you're sitting there and the light turns and then and
they're, they've already honked.I counted my head.
You want to wait? I'm a, I'm a you're.
You want to see what slow is? I'll give you.
Slow. I'll stay right there.
Like stay there till it turns red again.
I'm one of those. I'll beep quick but it depends.
Like I'll count outside. If they're in front of me but

(11:13):
they're actually not moving and I'll do a nice light tap like
hey look up from your phone. But if I get beat that and the
light just turned, I swear to God all the same way my foot is
lifting off the pedal bro. Like we ain't going.
Nowhere. We are taking our time.
We're going to reroute Go aroundme anyways life.
Driving is not for the week. Driving is not for the week,

(11:35):
especially with us. Yeah, like let's get dash cams.
Let's add that to the. List.
It's in my cart. It's just even checked out.
I'm like put a. 100. Dollars in a camera.
Girl please business expense onebecause it's the car is carrying
precious cargo. Literally.
And I keep my sign in there. Yeah.
And two, because we have equipment in our car sometimes
and we park it at work. So there you go.

(11:56):
There you go. Tax people, let us know.
OK, let's talk about the Met Gala.
I know. I don't ever watch it.
I know. Yeah, I know you didn't watch
the carpet, but that's OK 'causethis is the one that you don't
have to watch me post it. There's nothing to watch.
Like it's just the red carpet. It's not like an award show.
You don't actually see what goeson inside the mat.

(12:18):
None of us but you, just the carpet.
You just watch people walking in.
But I'm just telling you, there's nothing to watch.
And The funny thing is with the mat, they don't typically they
don't like allow phones. Like you can't take pictures of
things going on. We usually are in the dark about
like performances and all of that.
But the last like 2 years peoplehave videoed and posted them

(12:41):
online. So like I'm grateful for that
because last year we got to see Ariana was a performer and we
watched her performance via someone's phone who was breaking
a rule. And I guess there were more rule
Breakers this year unless they were allowed.
But Stevie Nicks and Sabrina Carpenter performed and we got
to see it. Did you see the clips?
Cute Lance, great song. Oh my God, I was like, this is

(13:04):
so good. I'm so happy for Sabrini.
Star in the making. Yes, yes, let's talk about looks
at the mat. Do you want to start with like
your best? Well, let's talk about the the
theme was like fashion, art is fashion and there was like a
whole bodies theme. So it could be like literal art

(13:25):
is fashion. So like some people had like
brush strokes and art all of that and then like body and like
sculpture. So like that was also like a
part of it. I feel like there's like a whole
breakdown that I don't feel likegetting into, but you know, the
vibes. Yeah, and I feel like Instagram
did a good side by side, like this was the look and this is

(13:45):
what was inside. This is the inspo.
Yeah, period. My favorite looks were a lot of
AI generated. I literally hiding her.
I said, girl, I have a new favorite look like Kendall
Jenner looked amazing. She was my top.
And then I said, but then I saw one on Instagram.
Yeah, it was Christina Aguilera and you're like, bitch, that's
AI. And I said.
My heart, no, cuz actually Amanda, like I knew, I firmly

(14:08):
knew that Kendall was going to be your best dressed.
She was my favorite and we were going to talk about it.
And then you're just like, we'resetting up to record and you're
like, I have a new one. I have a new one and I'm sitting
here, I'm trying to guess. So that's why I went through on
my phone. I start scrolling past every
single person going who's Amandagoing to pick?
And I'm like analyzing and I'm this and I'm that.

(14:29):
And then like I'm throwing out guesses.
We were doing this for a while. That's why I was sitting down.
Like I saw everyone. I was like, I know you and
that's you. There's no one not I named at
least five extra people. And then she goes Christina
Aguilera. I said, bitch, that's an AI
look. She looks so good.
They do this every year now. They put out, they put out AI

(14:52):
Met Gala looks on Instagram fromlike of celebrities, not of
like, I know I did it. There was a trend that you could
do it yourself, but they're putting out celebrity looks of
AI content of them at the Met Gala and they look better than
the people at the Met. And I'm like, you're ruining it
because these looks are eating down.
Look up Christina Aguilera guys.I'm screaming, but that doesn't

(15:15):
mean that that's the look that everyone there could be.
1,000,000 Christina Aguilera AI Met Gala.
I know which one. How do you she's the Lulu
beautiful. I'm screaming.
I was like body tea, everything.Was no, I knew that I should
have thought about this further with you when you messaged me
and said, how did she go to the Macallan?
And it was some girl who has like 2000 followers and that was

(15:37):
like, she didn't says she didn'tgo, but I'm that's really cute.
And she, you know, sometimes she's susceptible to the
Facebook headlines as well. Girl, I'm susceptible to
thinking like I'm going to be thinking people are doing shit
they shouldn't be doing. It's all AI.
It's kind of scary. You know, it's so scary, scary
and when it's funny too, becausewhenever you send me something

(15:58):
and I hate it that I do this, but like sometimes I'm like, let
me check myself first. Let me Fact Check what you just
said, because I don't trust my Facebook is all live Facebook
anymore. But sometimes then I I feel bad
because I'm like, there is no way that that's true.
And then it is like, you know what?
I did that for Cat Stickler and John Mayer.
Oh, how they were all together. They were like, together and all

(16:19):
that, but it made no sense because she had just been
posting, like, really launching this boyfriend that she was like
newfound love with. Like, I'm talking video montages
with this man. All of a sudden, a week later,
she's out with John Mayer. And I was like, no, that's a
Facebook headline. And it wasn't.
I never maybe because I just don't like men that are that

(16:40):
been ran through, but John Mayer, I ran through John.
Who hasn't dated John Mayer? What they use that word for
women use it for men. I love it.
Go ahead. Like, you know how like he like
the version of like I'm just like who literally has not dated
John Mayer, who hasn't? And that's why I believe the cat
stickler thing, because I was like, oh, he it's just John
Mayer. And people don't have good

(17:00):
things to say. Might I point you to the song
Dear John by Taylor Swift? Yeah, exactly.
Have you heard what she's He says in that song?
He took advantage of a young girl.
Yeah, he his. She was 19.
She was just. Yeah, no, the funniest thing was
like John Mayer, like, gets older and older and then the

(17:20):
girls stay the same age and it'sso crazy.
He must be friends with. Leo DiCaprio.
Leo. Yep.
Look at us being besties. Oh my God.
When I I don't remember, someonewas roasting him.
I want to say it was, what's hername?
Nikki Glazer. Yeah.
And she was so funny talking about his dating.

(17:42):
She so she also did like a an award show where she was like, I
don't want to harp on like I want a different approach to how
I talk about him in a skip because it's overplayed like the
the age she said she. Googled him, there was nothing
else she could find. She.
Goes I couldn't find anything else and he's in the audience

(18:02):
because it was an award show. That's what it is.
And she was like, and I'm looking I'm like, how do I not
make it about this? Like and really, Leo, there's
nothing online. The only thing I could find was
a teen beat article, like when he was like 14 years old.
Yes. Is your favorite food still
pasta? Pasta and more pasta.
And it was so funny and like, heloved the joke that he sent her

(18:26):
three baskets of pasta after theaward show.
And then she was like continuingthe bit because she was like,
she was on a like a late night show.
I forget if she was on, like, Fallon or something like that.
And she was like, yeah. And I saw the the baskets.
And I was like, is Leo trying tosmash?
And then she goes. But then I realized that for the

(18:47):
girls that he he would never send pasta.
It'd probably be like Gogurt and, and like, whatever else,
she said. Like some kid, like Capri son,
like, you know, I was. She's like, that wouldn't be his
target audience. Hysterical.
I love her. She's coming to Florida and we
must see her. I think it's September.
Is that what it is? Get us tickets.

(19:08):
We should go. I love her so.
Much me too. She's so funny and she was just
on Alex Earl's hot mess. Yes, they were so cute.
I loved that episode. Their energy.
They were like precious and I just got real active by Alex
Earl support. How was it?
Love love love. I absolutely love it but I don't
so I didn't get any products with actives in it.

(19:29):
My skin is not acne prone. Not that she it's targeted for
everyone, but there are some also products with actives or
like sensitive to people who getbreakouts.
Particularly my issue with my face is that I have dry skin.
So I got her moisturizer, which is like a barrier cream and it
restores the skin barrier. And I do a lot of sun tanning

(19:52):
and all that. You know, I love to lay out by
the pool. It's my favorite activity in
life. So love that that's what I got.
All I do is wash my face, so yeah, it's.
OK sis, you look gorge. I do like a 10 step routine.
Yeah, you're but I perfect for that.
It's like my therapy before I goto bed doing my skin care.

(20:15):
I have become like crazy. That's OK.
I do like this crazy skin care routine, but then it's like I
put on my sound machine. I do lavender essential oil
drops on my wrist. Then I put the little bit of
lavender on my son, AKA my dog Cash just so he can like get the
little like essential oil smell and get a nice sleep too.

(20:38):
I love this for you. I just like.
I've never been happier. You're a fucking bitch, OK?
We're not listening. Go watch.
Yeah, go watch. You should be watching us on
YouTube at youtube.com slash at Girl Please Under Score podcast.
So cute she gives her dog Lavender.
She she has gotten better. I'll take that one because you

(21:00):
used to do like when I would go off on my Swifty tangents, you
used to make some remarks and faces like and it's gotten
better. To just accept.
It I I know you have no tool. Yeah, you don't have one.
Or AT Swift, Alex Orojada. I know we have so many things.
Look, at least we show love to the girlies, I'll tell you.
OK, So we have to get back on track with the Met gal.

(21:21):
Yes. So now that we're talking real
looks, Real looks. Who's your best dress?
Yeah. Kendall Jenner, I loved her
look. I thought it was absolutely
beautiful. I loved it even before I saw the
whole the wings. Wings.
Yep. And then I saw the wings and I
was like, wow it. Got even better.
Yes, I saw SO Kendall's definitely my best dressed.

(21:43):
She looked exact and like she did.
They did such a great depiction of her in spell, like of the
sculpture and it just fit her sowell.
I loved the bodice underneath. When she went to the after party
she wore that like part of the body out with like a little
satin skirt. I was obsessed with the whole
thing. She looked and also every piece

(22:04):
of it like the way they did. Her hair matched perfectly, her
glam matched perfectly, and thenshe tops it by like when she
gets inside, she had these big elaborate wigs.
I was like, that's unbelievable.So props.
But I have to say the entire Kardashian Jenner fam was like

(22:26):
my best dress, like Kendall's outfit, the undressed, the story
of like the body and like the dress coming off her was
incredible. Kim, I loved her look.
She looked amazing and she didn't use a it wasn't a fashion
designer this time. He's an actual sculptor that
made her body outfit and the bodice piece.

(22:48):
And then she had a designer do the skirt piece and they hand
painted on it. And then Chris looked
incredible. Yep.
Oh my God, honey, that family was like.
The Kardashians, always. They do, but like, they're not.
They have good style. Really all across the board this
met I would say because sometimes Kim is a miss for me.
Like sometimes she goes too far Kanye for me.

(23:11):
Like she did the look with like the like her whole face covered
in like a a stocking. I didn't like that she.
Yeah, rang me a freaking Katy. I didn't like her Marilyn Monroe
look. I didn't mind that one.
The hair for me was a miss, which she's traumatized by.
She hated. She talks about it.
All the time, yeah. I thought her look this like

(23:34):
here out of all of them like shewas my least favorite out of
all. The connections, yeah, this year
she cuz she's usually more elaborate and her dress was more
simple, but I still liked her. I liked her.
I think her glam was amazing, her hair and they bleached her
hair and her makeup. They wanted it to be more muted,
kind of like a mannequin and I think that was spot on.

(23:55):
I wasn't a fan as much of Kylie's glam as it related to
her outfit. Like the bleach brows and like
the curly like. The low I thought that was cute.
It's cute and artistic. I just I saw her trying on the
dress and like doing fittings with her hair more pulled back
and I think it like just looked better with that outfit.

(24:18):
Yeah, her look was OK too. It like wasn't a favorite for
me, but it was it was the nice dress for her, Yeah.
I have others on my list. I tell you ones that in like.
Go ahead, Katy Perry. Like what was are we fencing?
Hello. She knew to go into hiding after
everything going on with. Her, she had the audacity to

(24:39):
make that shit a window and she would open and close it.
She had the audacity to go. I was like, sis, so I heard
somebody say, does she think she's still going to the moon?
Is this her space outfit? I was.
Dying. That is hysterical.
Oh my God, I yeah, I wasn't a fan.

(24:59):
I liked Beyoncรฉ's look. I would have.
I could have done without the headpiece, but I liked the body
suit that she had on. Yeah, skeleton look.
And then I liked also the feathery coat going with it.
So I liked the concept of Beyoncรฉ taking the body part
more literal of like a skeletal like look.

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I think it was like the gems andthe code and everything agree on
the headpiece were gorgeous, like you could tell, like the
quality and the the actual outfit was nice.
I just think it was ill fitting when you saw it like because I
watched the carpet like she would move and that like sheer
in between the skeleton, the wayit moved.

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It was like gathering. It wasn't like you have you're
dressing fucking Beyoncรฉ, like get it right, get it tight, like
fit. It fit that shit to her like a
glove. You know, I just think it almost
like sat on top of her instead of embracing her body.
And I didn't like that. Like I felt like they could have

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and God forgive me because like it's Beyoncรฉ, but I just think
they should have done her betterjustice because the concept was
stunning and the execution for her body could have been better.
Like I think they needed to taper it more and tighten it to
her better. Like if you watched how she
moved it was like this heavy baggy thing on her.

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It looked heavy. Yeah.
So I was like, come on. I thought the whole family
looked pretty nice. Blue Ivy looked good.
Blue Ivy 8 she was my favorite in the fam.
Like she was definitely the bestdressed in the fam.
Did you see her video with the sunglasses?
No. Oh.
It was like you it's a must watch everyone on the carpet.

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I don't know, it's like her whole glam, like not not glam
team, but like whole team of like probably assistants and
people that are like with The Carter Family, they're all like
glasses off glasses, glasses andthey're motioning her and she's
just ignoring them, ignoring. So then then her mom's like
looking over her like blue, takeyour glasses up.
She wouldn't take them up. Then her dad, who was like
letting the girls take like a mom and daughter photo, like

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whatever he's like, like he's motioning at her, like take the
glass up, like ignores them. I feel like the look.
I saw is without glasses though.She did it at the top of the
carpet like, but if we're all like the big photos at the
bottom, like it was so funny. If you watch it, it was Diva.
It was so tea like and she looksso good with the glasses.
Like why? Why you got to stop her from

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being great. Like let her be so funny.
That was funny. I loved.
OK, I had a couple more that I loved.
I think Chase Infinity and Ember.
Emma Chamberlain did a great jobof doing like the art on the
body, kind of like the strokes of paint look, I thought those
were beautiful and I did have some.

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Let me see who else I put in. Here guys, looks are hard for
me, but I liked Tyreek Withers. I thought his was tasteful.
It was like not too much and still graceful in a way.
And it's like, oh, it's cute. And different from a suit.
Yes, different from a suit, but not like some people.
I was like, OK, that's, that's alot.
Yeah, see, you're going to disagree with me, but I loved

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Hudson Williams and I, I love heated rivalry, so I will
always. And I'm so happy that both he
and Connor Story were invited. But he did look better than I
thought. Connor.
Yeah. Like I didn't really care for
Connor's look as well, Like I thought his art look.
Was a lot. Better, yeah, but it was a lot.
I I thought I was like, he was part of like a rock.
No, yeah, it would have looked like nicer without the makeup

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maybe. The makeup was my favorite.
Part Oh, so that's what what wasgiving Rocker that not the
outfit. Well, the makeup.
Yeah, the makeup, you did like that.
It was rocker. I thought you were saying that's
a negative. No, no, no, I out of all the
things, I didn't really care forthe outfit, but I was like, at
least they made him look punk rock and put some makeup, but I
didn't. He looked better.

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I liked. It I thought it was cool because
you don't get to see the guys doit.
And I think I liked how he did it.
But I also liked like, Damson Idris and Joe Burrow, which were
more basic, like men's looks, but elevated.
Those were also on my best dressfor the men, I had a couple
misses for men. For women, I had a lot.

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Yeah, but a couple I need to point out.
OK, but you go first. I didn't really care for
Rihanna's look. I didn't like it at all.
Who else did I not like? I just felt like, like, who
didn't you like? You didn't like Katy Perry?
Oh yeah, Katy Perry I talked about.
I you know who I thought was a miss like not that she looked
horrible, but it wasn't for thisnight.

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Look up Margot Robbie at the Met.
She had a normal dress that you wear to any like anything.
So it did didn't make sense for this and I'm just really
surprised because the insane outfits that she was doing that
she was wearing for her Wuthering Heights dress tour,

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she was wearing the most incredible.
That bad to me. It's not, that's not what I'm
saying. It's not a Met outfit.
It looks like they put she on her.
What? Looks like they threw a rug on.
Her no like it's just a plain dress it's oh that's yeah, I
guess the bad like she was just walking around and it was just
this plain yeah they like stapled it in the back like.

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She had the most incredible looks for the Wuthering Heights
press tour and for for the Barbie movie and all these
different themes things. And her stylist was like eating
for Wuthering Heights. So I'm like, how on earth did
she wear that to the mat when she was just so incredible?
And you know who did the same thing?
Emily Blunt. She was just dressing to the

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nines for her Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere, which is all about
fashion, and then she comes in like pants and a fruit fruit top
to the Met Gala. I didn't care for Olivia Wilde.
I don't know what that. Look up.
I know, let me. I know.
It's probably like some kind of art thing.

(31:10):
Let me see what you're looking at.
Oh yeah, the basket ass you. Know I'm like what is I don't.
Know I was like, is she looking at AI?
What's she looking at? Oh no, I'm on like.
Reputable. Just joking.
I don't like Odessa, whatever her name.
Is. Oh yeah, I don't like that one.
And it, it didn't look good on the carpet either.

(31:32):
She had one boob fallen out. Yeah, they shove.
Supported a little. So I was like what you doing
like? Cardi.
BI know I want to know what it was supposed to be.
Oh, it's a it's I'll show you. I saw.
It OK, yeah, because I'm like, are those titties or is it
intestines like what's happeningor tumors or something?

(31:55):
I saw it and I was like, oh, there it is.
That's what it's supposed to be like.
Oh that's not what I expected. OK well y'all can look that up
yourselves and let me know what you think.
Yeah I don't know like her body looked good in the mesh part but
then the little things I don't know how I felt but but it was
different like I didn't. I don't think I hate it as much

(32:16):
as people hated it, but like, itwas weird.
It was out of all the and supposed to pick from that she's
just like. She's so funny, like.
Of course she picked that, though.
Of course. What did you think?
You know who looked amazing? Tate McRae.
Oh my God. Yep, Golden Goddess.
Sabrina. I liked her look.
Sabrina Breen's. She looked good.
But yeah, I feel like a lot of alot of people look more fine to

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me than they did, you know, not.Did you see what I what Emily
Blunt wore? I'll show you.
And she was in Devil Wears Prada, obviously.
And like, her press looks were incredible.
And it's like, why on earth did you go business casual to like
business attire to the Met Gala?This is the most exciting thing

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to dress for. Oh.
Yeah. What do you think?
I mean, am I? Wrong.
No idea, it's nothing special. Right.
Like it's like an elevator suit,like business.
The guys would do. I want to say Doja Cat looks
sane. Once in her life, she looked
decent. I don't want to talk about that
satanic woman. Well, I think she found Jesus.
I was really glad she did. No, you know what they said on

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the carpet about her? She said they were saying that
like it's almost expected that she's going to do something
crazy, that it was more shocking.
They felt for her to do it this way so that that's the shock
factor, that she looked normal. And that's true.
I think we were all shocked. She came as a condom, I thought.

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That one I would have expected to be AI.
Crazy. Yes, Yes.
I was like, well, ma'am, Well, ma'am.
And these are our opinions. I don't want y'all coming into
our comments. You don't know I shut up.
I don't. Know why people always say that
you don't know? Like I can't have an opinion.
No, seriously. And as if we're not like,
educated enough to understand, but still.

(34:08):
And I want to click the little icon and be like.
Let me tell you what I think about you.
No, the problem is when you click the icon and they're like,
be kind, spread love, all inspirational.
If you don't send us something, they say you don't say it, they
don't say it. That's all I got to say.
Your little pop socket with yourdog looks so cute, patootie, so
cute. Should we move on to like?

(34:31):
What should we talk about shows?Let's do it.
Oh no, I have to talk about one thing.
Well, it's show related. Oh, I feel like my prediction is
coming true. Reality Steve who is like a well
known source in the reality world, he has his sources and
his ways of getting information and he said that it is from a

(34:55):
reliable source that The Bachelorette will air.
I ain't watching it. Oh, we know she doesn't end up
with anyone. Well, actually it's exciting to
like watch. Oh, I don't know.
I've been seeing the guy that's.Back with him so they're trying
to make it work well I I think Iwould still watch it out of like
curiosity as to how it went not I'm not thinking she's going to

(35:17):
go find the love of her life on it I.
Don't judge anyone on how they choose to move and do life, but
like watching Mormon wives and how she literally was hooking up
with Dakota the day before she left.
I know. And then you're with these men.
Yeah. And then to be at I just.
Well. Frankie Paul needs to just off
grid a little. Off grid a little, yes.
But I knew that this was happening.

(35:38):
Yeah, like this statement literally said will not be
released at this time. Everyone's like it's cancelled.
No, it's not. They spent so much money.
They had so many brands investedin this.
There's no way. I called it episodes ago.
Go Fact Check. Like there was no way ABC wasn't
going to air. And The funny thing is it's not
just going to be dumped on a streamer.

(35:59):
It is going to air in a slot on ABC, per Reality Steve, like
each week night. Like, they're going to have a
slot for it, and it's going to air weekly on ABC.
Next week are ABC upfronts, where they're going to announce
their new, like, slate of shows that are upcoming.
And this is where Steve predictsthat the news will be dropped.

(36:22):
So. It'll do fine.
She has a huge following. People will watch.
Yeah, like people will watch andlike Tanami Dakotas no sane
either, so like, whatever. Honestly, after everything that
happened with this and Mormon Wives, there's literally not one
person I like on Mormon Wives except for Whitney.
I like Miranda. Oh, I like, yeah, I like

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Miranda. Yeah, I need my sis to have a
little more of a backbone. She starts telling people to go
fuck. Themselves I I cannot believe
this whole Jessie thing. Jessie is lucky.
She is embarrassing. When this thing happened with
Chase, her kissing Chase and allthat, like she's very lucky that
Scamanda happened at the same time so that Amanda Petrillo's

(37:04):
crime was way worse than hers sothat hers could be swept under
the rug. But like, kissing one of your
close friends like exes and father of their kids is insane
work. And now she's gallivanting with
Marciano, the man who tried to take down her marriage when she
was still in it. Lied on her.
Lied on. Her like good for her go like

(37:25):
let her enjoy, but like Marcianois it's an odd.
Choice First off, like like I said, I do not judge a woman,
how they live their life, what they want to do.
For her to be saying she has a roster and he's just somewhat
like girl, EW, EW, you have kids.
I don't want to hear that. Just the way she's saying it.
But I think she's saying it likethat to justify it and be like,

(37:48):
everybody get off my back. Like it's not a serious thing.
I'm just hooking up with people.There's a better way to say it.
Yeah, I was just like, that doesn't sound cute at all.
Yeah, it was off putting. And then also like, why are you
even entertaining being physicalwith a man that lied on you?
I would be so turned off. There's so many, there's so many
men out there. I just don't.

(38:09):
Understand Yeah. And that's the thing too.
Like I feel like I really like you're going like when people
are commenting and they're saying to us like let her live
this at Oh my God. I'm like the number one
proponent for that. Like and you know what she's
going through a lot. People can't tell her and us
included, like how what choices to make if she she's a free
woman, let her live her life. I totally understand that.
But it is a little bit layered when this man is a huge part of

(38:34):
like the downfall of your marriage.
And it's not like you kind of realized and went off with him.
Like you were so tormented by his lies.
Apparently he lied about you guys being intimate and you were
so sad and distraught over this.Like for someone to do that is
crazy. And also then create this feud

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in between like your friendship with someone you are best
friends with and then lie on herand the back and forth and like
then conspire with her after shebecame your ex best friend.
It's like dirty business. And my issue too, is like, if
you want to hook up with Marciano, do your thing.
Like, I don't want to see him onmy page.
You guys shoot and merch together.
You guys kissing out in public, like.
And like everyone says, it's your life.

(39:20):
Do what you want. But I don't got to support it.
And I don't. Yeah, I don't care for you
anymore. And it sucks because like, I
really like. I used to like her you.
Want her to do well and I want her to be happy and all the
things, but I just think this islike the judgement calls lately
have not been so great and even Macy like who I really very much
enjoy. I think that the Sunday sinners

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merch is a little going a littletoo far.
Like I know that and it's funny because they're Mormon too.
But like the back of the thing, like the front says, like Sunday
sinners, right the back says like they're even hell has a
basement or something and then it's like flames like who the
hell would buy that? That's such a great.
Crazy thing to be like, yeah, this will sell out.

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Yeah, Mormon wives is like getting done for me like bring
Whitney back. She's the only thing
entertaining now. She got a lot going on.
Like she's the only one that I feel like agreed though we saw
her marriage and like there was a lot of like stuff in the
beginning, but now they seem healthy.
Now they seem good. Yeah, like I like the growth.
Yeah, he has had. Yep.
You know where everyone else. I can't to me still can't stand
her. Layla needs a storyline so bad.
Miranda. I love give Miranda her own

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show. I agree and Miranda needs to
like no offense and I like that she Co parents would chase well
but that man keeps disrespectingyou.
So obviously it's easy to not befriends with chicks but when the
guy that you have a kid with is continuing to freaking circle
your friend group it's it's annoying.
It's really. Insane and like the she
continues to like swallow everything to just have like

(40:44):
this good Co parenting relationship and I feel for her
because it's like 1 is enough enough yeah it's just and then
you. Kiss my baby daddy and then you
send me flowers. Yeah.
No, like, come on now. Oh my God.
And apparently like he also of course, 'cause, you know, Chase
gets around the friend group. He also was like dating more
recently, this girl who was likevery close with Jessie.

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So she also then flowers to the other girl.
And even Miranda said I feel more bad for her.
And she was just very like, muchbest friends with Jessie.
Like what is this girl doing allI all?
I know is like watching Skamando, watching everything go
on with Miranda, all these showslike Vanderpump, all of them.
I'm just like, I'm so happy I don't have a lot of friends

(41:25):
because I don't know what's in the air where people just.
Those reality. Like, is there two men in the
world? And that's why they keep
circling around a lot of friendsgroups Like I don't get.
Crazy and I watched Vanderpump filler for you and we don't have
to get too into it, but like watching everything with Hannah
and Marciano, this man, and it'slike, are we living in different

(41:46):
universes? Like he's sitting here fully
being like, I love this woman and saying all this shit.
Like obviously like we roll our eyes at it but like to.
About Jesse or Hannah. About Hannah to sit here and
like, be like, I, I know her better than she knows there's,
and she'll say the same about him.
And they're so like they have this bond and this love and

(42:06):
this, this, and like you're lookat you with Jessie like parading
around like it's so bizarre. Like what are you?
What is this man? I think Hannah and Vanderpump
Villa was worse than Marciano. I agree.
Like Marciano was a little more calm.
He wasn't like disrespecting herdoing other things and she's
like kissing him and then doing messing with other men like she
I was just like girl. She this was a really, really

(42:28):
bad and then for Hannah Marciano, I agree.
I actually think I texted you and I was like, I think I
disliked Hannah more. This.
Season. Yeah, I was embarrassed.
For her though, I was so embarrassed for her.
Although I don't know if you'll agree with me on this, I'm
curious. I started to really dislike and
I'm not saying she wasn't insufferable and she didn't
deserve people to be annoyed with her and over her.

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But I thought at the end it got went way too far with the way
that the friends were like the way that like Gabriella piled on
and Hagen disagree and when Cherwas shooing her off like that,
I. I was all about.
It I felt like you were. I felt like you were going to
say that. I was so disgusted.
I had to take a second like I was.
I was listening to all the shit Hannah was saying about all of

(43:12):
them. Like at least they're saying it
to her. Face all the time.
At least they're saying it to her face.
Because they talk shit about herbehind her back all the time.
When I was watching even though they're like no one else
understands what we go through because they don't record when
she's yelling at us at night. I think I understand that.
I'm so fucking sick of their relationship.
Watching it. I can't imagine being in the
house with them. I cannot.

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I think she deserved that tenfold.
I see why she runs Marciano. Poor Hagen.
I I can't even imagine. I felt like Hagan was so
vicious. Oh, I think Hagan.
I was so happy for him. I who I was I.
Liked him and then I saw the last.
She doesn't give the French thatthey give, and I get that.
I saw the reunion and I was like, this is disgusting
behavior from all of them. I loved it.

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I thought it was so nasty. Like there's a level and it was
crossed. Like, at the beginning, I was
fine with it. I wasn't fine with it at the
end. I was grossed out.
Yeah, No, I knew we weren't going to agree, but like, I
firmly believe that that was nasty work.
It's like friendships I have sometimes I get so sick of
people and it's like I don't want to keep beating the same
Bush and like we fight over the same things and it's.

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So can I ask you something? So now do you understand
Chrishell? No, Chrishell's a bitch.
No, she. Wasn't even as bad as Hagan or
Gabriella or. Cher, don't get me wrong, I hate
what's her face. They were so.
Emma. Yeah, I don't like Emma.
So out of life, Chrishell. 'S mean to everyone else too,
not just yeah no, Chrishell's a fucking bitch.

(44:36):
Gabriella's a bitch. Well, yes.
I'm not saying she's not. I'm saying Hannah deserved the
backlash she got. That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, but I just think they tooka don't.
Complain to me about how much you hate Marciano and then you
go and sleep with him there. I don't want to hear it, you
know, I get it. I.
No, I I think that was crazy because I agreed in the
beginning very much so. Even though Gabriella has not

(44:58):
been a favorite of mine, really in the beginning of the season,
she was very much coming to Hannah's defense and being like,
Nope, get away from her. Nope, protecting her like being
the Shields, like and she didn'trealize that Hannah's like
running behind the scenes and hooking up with him, kissing
him, doing all the things like completely like, but not talking

(45:18):
shit that bad. It wasn't bad.
And then? Marciano's you're a guy, and
then he goes and. She's playing all of a That was
crazy. She said everything.
I couldn't believe after it was just brushed.
She deserved that. The fact that he said everything
that she said and made it sound even worse and crazy and she

(45:39):
would just run back to him. I'm like you're you're some kind
of sick like she. I really didn't like her this
season. I'm not even saying I liked her,
but I think that and I agreed with them in the beginning, but
then I thought that the way thatthey were screaming and going, I
was like, you guys are that was.I love Insane.
I don't care for anyone on the show except for Stassi and

(46:01):
Hagen. They're my favorite.
I I yeah, I don't like Hagen anymore, but I love Stassi.
And I'm so happy. You know what I love about
Hagen? He wanted to protect his energy.
Like, Hannah wants that French back.
And he's like, I just can't do it.
Yeah, you know, And that's fine.I think that's perfectly OK.
Yeah. Yes, I shall.
OK too, I'm not saying Chrishelle should be friends.
I don't like Chrishelle as a person, not that situation.

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I think that. I think Hagan is stupid.
I agreed with him most of the season and then he got nasty.
He turned a corner and I was like.
And then when she was sitting with Marciano talking shit about
Hagen, I'm like, that's the one guy that's there for you.
He's the one guy that you cried shit.
No, she was closer to. Hagen talk shit about her too
though. After he found out everything,

(46:43):
yes, after she was moving funny.And I do think that like when
they are back home, I think she is crying on his shoulder a lot
about the Marciano thing, and I understand.
Why? I agreed with him and I He was
my favorite until the end and then at the end I turned because
I think they crossed a line. But for the majority, I aligned
with not and I I didn't like her.

(47:04):
I aligned with all their actionsand feelings.
But I think they took it a step too far by the end.
I think my my opinion now, if wehad recorded a week ago before I
watched the last like 2 episodesof the finale, I would have gone
in like and like been singing their praises and then just
seeing that last for you that episode was sick.
See, I thought different too, because her and Marciano were

(47:27):
getting defensive, like they weren't taking accountability.
So I understood why the other side was getting mad because I'm
like, they're not saying anything to make it better.
They're getting they're like have each other's back and it
was them against everyone else. But it's not like, but Hannah
did apologize to Hagan. I I'm happy that you know, she
left. Sam pissed me off.
Like, who are you? Like, Oh yeah.
Sam, I don't. Like I just thought it was a.

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Little I thought it was so funnywhen Marciano was like, you
know, Sam, you're my friend. It shouldn't even be a thought
to go after my ex. And I'm like, you are married
with a messing. You must have been a married
woman if you were. You're going to talk about
morals? Yeah, that was really rich.
A lot of things they do. I mean, they were insane, but
Hannah had a horrible season. Yes, They I couldn't, I couldn't

(48:09):
agree with her or or understand.Fire her.
What the hell happened? And they thought that they were
going to win. I love, I know.
I think that was a joke. Like I don't.
Mind Siana was pissed. When they go on the like, and
maybe honestly, I'm not going tolie, like maybe Marciano like
could have gotten like a tent that like a low one.
I didn't think he deserved anything, but I don't think

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Gabriella did it deserve I. Didn't think she deserved.
Anything. I was like, poor chef, why would
they get the same number? Hagen I knew was going to get
it. Yeah, I knew.
Hagen was going to get it, but like the chef should have been
higher up and I don't know. I just it was, I don't know.
I thought like I you could tell that at the end, like Hannah and

(48:51):
them in the confessionals were like, yeah, this is my money.
Like they just say that shit to make it suspenseful for the
show. Oh, I mean.
In front of, really in front of his face.
Marciano was talking to him again, yeah.
I think Marciano could have beenin the running for a low one
maybe. No, he.
Kept his mouth. Shut and he was.
And I was dying too because Hannah tried to pin even the
white board on him and he was souncomfortable when she did that.

(49:12):
And I was like, girl, like, thatwas all you though.
She was the worst this season. Yes, she was Marciano enabled.
I think he could have been. He could have removed himself.
And like, you know, I think it would have been less drama if
they weren't so like, tag teaming, you know?
Yeah, what is that show isn't like my favorite, but it
definitely was a lot like this time.

(49:33):
And then let me I'm trying to think of like I won't even talk
about the fact that the stupid dad talk it was on there.
They're like such loser. Jordan is so corny.
He wants to be the man so bad and.
He's like we're here to separateand stand on our own 2 feet
instead of mom talk like dad talk whenever riding their
freaking coattails first of all and like.

(49:55):
None of you guys and dad's not really like.
Even no one's interesting. No one is a decent human being.
Like it was so bad. He wanted a plot like a
storyline so bad. And I thought it was so funny
how like Jordan goes in to like talk to Marciano like this is
the man that you have all these issues with like that got in
between your marriage. Even though Jordan shut the fuck

(50:17):
up because you were cheating andpaying escorts and doing all
this shit before that happened so you deserved way worse.
But he goes to confront this manwho got in the middle of his
marriage and he's like call Brett, tell Brett what Demi did
what that has nothing to do withany that just showed me he was
just being an asshole. Like he just wanted like

(50:37):
somebody else to be taken down or for this to apply to some
like for because it affected hismarriage and he lost his girl.
Like he wanted threats. The whole thing to go to like,
what does that have to do with anything?
Face the man and talk about whathe did with your wife.
Why are you talking about somebody else?
I think he doesn't. He doesn't give a shit about
what him and Jesse did. I think he just wanted to have

(50:59):
this alpha moment where he thought.
And everybody, he thought, everybody would be behind him.
I was just like, I want to laughin your face, Marciano, please
laugh because I'm laughing. And was like, I'm eating.
He thought he was like this leader of the thing.
And he looked like a fucking fool.
Like, oh, baby pee. Napoleon Complex, OH.
Baby need a high chair. And then with at the reunion

(51:22):
when they were saying like, oh, did Jordan try to hook up with?
Hannah Oh my God, that was so stupid.
He's such a loser. Such a loser.
Oh my God, he's so thirsty. And you go.
Back to the paid the paid peopleyou get.
No seriously, that's your optionright now.
That is disting. Too funny.
Do you want to end with what do we have?
Summer House? We could talk Summer House and
Rory a little bit. OK, Which one do you want to do

(51:45):
first? We could do summer house.
I feel like the more I've watched, the more I'm like, you
can tell there's a thing there. There's something going on.
Yeah. And poor Kyle, he's spiraling.
I would say that one thing is like so abundantly clear.
Like, obviously we knew that Amanda, just as a friend, even

(52:07):
if nothing was going on, has always like kind of crossed a
line with the men in the house, especially the taken men in the
house and as a married woman. But I think in watching this
stuff, let's just play devil's advocate and pretend like they
weren't doing anything yet, but they were just like close and
crossing a line, being too friendly with each other.

(52:27):
The number one thing that standsout is you cannot sit here and
downplay how much you knew what W meant to Sierra.
That is the number one thing that is fact.
Whether or not we know what was happening last summer when they
were filming, we know for sure that Amanda knows how affected

(52:49):
Sierra was by West, how in love Sierra was with West.
And she's emotional, she's crying.
She's like, Oh my God, I need toprotect her.
I need to. It's so she's so overly the top,
like over the top defending and understanding and in seeing
Sierra suffer from West that youcannot even argue like, oh, this

(53:13):
was just an X from two years ago.
Like, there's no argument for that whatsoever.
Can we talk about the leaked audio?
Yeah. So my thing is, after listening
to the leaked audio, it's very obvious that Amanda didn't care
to not have a friendship with Sierra anymore.
Yeah, she's saying is like, you know, they're single.

(53:33):
They're not together. I'm single, you know, like, And
it just happened. Yes, but you knew at the expense
of never having Sierra as a friend again.
So to me, it's just like, I think she did know.
Obviously, kind of like you mentioned, so obvious.
She was way too involved in the relationship.
I don't want Wes to hurt her again, you know, I know she
would be all in it. But he made you what he did last
time when she sang all these things.

(53:54):
And it's like, girl, you're literally the enabler.
Yeah, it's so insane how like this needs to be studied, like
how fiercely she was like tryingto defend Sierra and like
protect her from West and like she's the very person who like
goes after West and it's you have no excuse.

(54:16):
You knew. The thing is, I don't even think
it's at like we, yes, we expect things for men, but I also think
that what was so hard for Sierrato articulate, like it was very
difficult for she didn't. She was probably embarrassed
because of how strong her feelings were that she didn't
communicate. Like Wes may not have known how

(54:37):
in love she was with him, but Amanda did and she knew it very
well. So like, it's way way way worse
obviously for a friend to do it,but also because of how much she
knew that W affected her. But also, I feel like West and
her were going out on double dates.
They were doing things together.Like he should know Sierra's not

(54:57):
a girl that's just going to hookup.
Like, you know what her. Expectations are crying like
when they had that conversation,like how affected she was and
then like I think Sierra and. Amanda both need to be studied
because what do they see in West?
He is not a man. He wants to be out all the time
and party. He provides nothing.
Like there's nothing. I look at West and I'm like, I

(55:18):
get it. I don't get.
It I think what happened too with Sierra is like, you know
you. It's like was a gradual thing
where they were close and then he was giving her attention.
Then she felt good, like it happened, whatever.
But like Amanda, to lay it all on the line for a man who won't
even claim you is crazy. And no offense to Amanda, but.
Oh well, look, it's. Sierra, like, the first time he

(55:41):
messed up with her and like, yeah.
And like, I'm just like, how canyou do that to her and then have
the audacity? To do you look like that?
No. Sierra's like, no offense,
Amanda, but like, you know, I just don't get it.
And like, even the way that we're watching this season play
out and how really horrible Amanda is to Kyle, like, I can't

(56:01):
believe that I'm feeling bad forKyle.
And then I think about personalities, like, I think
about I see Sierra and Wesley gather and Sierra's fun, bubbly,
cute, like, you know, when she's, like, happy with him.
And then Amanda's, like, boring,like, complaining all the time.
Doesn't want to do it. Like a tone.
Yeah, Monotone thinks she's the shit when she's not.
Doesn't. Nothing.
So I don't get it. I don't get it.

(56:21):
It's really insane and hearing the audio too, you can just tell
like it's like so alarming to mehow under like his spell she is
that she's just like, yeah, I'm going to be this like United
friend with this man who's like not even my boyfriend lose
everything over it acts like it wasn't a big deal and like you

(56:44):
just know they're sitting there being like it was nothing.
We were all single, like harpingon the fact that oh, I'm not So
what? I'm even though I was married,
Like I'm not with him. That's not the point.
That's not the point. That's not why people are upset
with what you did. What I'm upset about most to
listen to that is I don't hear Wes at all.
Why is all a man? It's all a man.
Why doesn't Wes get as much of the smoke as her?

(57:05):
Like Wes and her husband and Kyle were friends, Why isn't he
getting as much? Smoke.
Well I do believe that Amanda was like even even more in the
wrong in the situation. However, it's not even that W
not getting the smoke, it's thatW did not speak up or come to
Amanda's defense. Once you see what's happened and

(57:29):
you are such a loser that you'reletting Amanda have to speak up
an answer for all of it and you sit by.
Not once does he speak up and defend her or like a man who is
with you and standing with with you no matter what is going to
be like, well, hold on. Listen, this is what happened.
Or I did this or come to her defense or speak with her, stand

(57:49):
united with her. He didn't even do that.
And Kyle and we only heard leaks.
But Kyle afterwards, like confirm this.
He was like, yeah, I was surprised to see that there was
not one time where he stood up and defended her.
And now that I look back at things and I'm not excusing
Kyle's behavior at all, but I'm seeing a different side of Kyle
now. And like, I kind of want to

(58:10):
support lover boy, like kind of how you did, like Amanda might
have been, I don't even know, off camera with him, like maybe
treating him like shit. I have seen sometimes where like
you chose to marry this man after knowing what he did to
you. So there's no excuse for that.
But as a wife like you should bemeeting him halfway and trying
to build this. Relationship years have we seen
them never sleep together, nevereven have fun together, never go

(58:32):
on a date and she'd never wantedlike they're such totally
different people. Like she wouldn't even rally and
just be like, oh like I will come out with you tonight.
Like let's go like go out. Your friends are here and like
literally you're getting paid todo this so get your ass up and
go. Out.
It's giving. She doesn't want to be.
Around her husband even, like, yes, even the things that we see
that are like basic things, likehe'll text her all day.

(58:55):
Hey, babe, just landed. Hey, get in my Uber.
Hey, they say that. No response.
I was watching the latest episode and he was like, oh, I'm
going to play music, like blah, blah.
And she doesn't answer. And he's like, oh, hello, I'm
going to play some music. Like she doesn't say anything.
Yeah. And like, it's just like there's
these. What do you expect at this
point? And it's like you're just so
bitter about the situation you're in you the fact that you

(59:15):
won't even respond to this man at this point.
Yep. And the difference is like she.
Knew what she was marrying with Kyle Kyle says that when they
first started dating, she was fun.
She wanted to do things that then she changed, you know, so
it's not like they're kind of like growing and wanting the
same things. She's obviously growing and I

(59:35):
wouldn't even say growing. I don't know what the hell she's
doing. With her life, whereas Kyle's
like, you know, yes, he DJ's, he's trying to make something
out of that. Like it became a passion for
him. They're just not meant for each
other. And I think he did try and put
in more effort than him. And they look, they're, we're
seeing them in therapy. She's not even trying.
She won't even the fact that youwill not respond to him it like
he's in your face talking to you.
You don't respond, he texts you,you don't respond.

(59:58):
You're in the same house, you never see each other.
You won't go sit even next to him.
He almost freaking literally came when she kissed him because
he hasn't like had a kiss from her and how long when you saw
that scene because they were forced to kiss because they
played like that's been the bottle game.
I was like Oh my God this is alarming.
And the last thing I'll say on this what broke my heart
watching. Was Sierra like loves Amanda so

(01:00:20):
much that she's trying to help her with her marriage.
She's saying, maybe you guys need space.
Maybe you need to find each other again.
We'll start dating and fall in love.
And she literally and even with Kyle, like she's talking to both
of them. She's trying to mediate.
And meanwhile she's like trying to work on things with Wes and
Amanda sees us all going on and instead of her reciprocating
that friendship, she decides to do things as well.
Like you should have been focused on your marriage, your

(01:00:43):
divorce, what's going on. And I just I feel for Sierra.
She's going to be on. I know.
I'm so excited for her. Her looks are.
Going to be amazing insane. Insane and I.
Really want to see, I hope that she gets paired with Val.
I really love that area and I know that's who she wants.
Also, we saw, you know, what's an interesting part of this to

(01:01:05):
KJ? Like if you think about it, KJ
was like besties with West and West brought him into the show
and he hadn't like apologized orlike acknowledged anything with
him until after the reunion. Did you see that?
Like he sent a text and KJ read it on Watch what happens live
with. No I heard KJ they'll definitely
have Sierras back on with. Everything, yeah, but so.

(01:01:30):
Wes sent a text to KJ after the reunion aired or sorry after the
reunion filmed and he sent a really nice message.
But like KJ was like I haven't been able to bring myself to
even open it. Like I'm just so upset and we
used to be so close and it sucksbut like I haven't even opened
it and can't trust you around mygirl.

(01:01:51):
Andy was like, oh, like. Well, what, like kind of asking
like, what's in it or like, would you tell us?
And then he was like, oh, I haven't even looked at like, I
haven't brought myself to look at it.
So he's like, let me look at it right now.
And then he's like, I'll read it.
And he read it out loud on WatchWhat Happens Live.
Do you want me to read it to you?
Well, is it like an apology kindof thing?
OK. I don't know if you want

(01:02:13):
details. Or like me, just to summary.
But OK, KJ text West. Let's see how this does for us
on Google. In a pinch, read what W Wilson
texted KJ Dillard. Yep, here we go.
OK, I wanted to thank you for soapparently I'm context clues.

(01:02:36):
KJ must have shared some like deep personal things during the
reunion. So that's referenced in the
text. OK I wanted to thank you for
your articulation and kindness yesterday despite being hurt.
I've been off social and I thinkI lost touch with how much hurt
there was lol. I'm incredibly sorry.
Also sending you love in regardsto your mental health.

(01:02:56):
You shared a lot yesterday and Iknow it might carry much weight.
I know it might carry much weight now, but I'm always
rooting for the best for you. I know it will take some time,
but whenever you feel like you're ready, lunch or a phone
call would mean a lot. In the spirit of healing, no
need to respond. Take your time.
No one wants to be friends with your ass.
Characters. Here's the thing.
Like. After this, like the person, I

(01:03:19):
forget who it was some guest wasnext to and I apologize like I
probably don't watch that show sitting next to KJ.
And like was like, well, that was like a really nicely worded
thing. And then Andy was like, it was
it was then like then Andy goes on like his radio show the next
day. He's like, he did a really good
job with that apology and I'm just like, yeah, he did a great
job with Sierras apology too, right?

(01:03:42):
Like how are you actions over words?
Like please, you're going to fall for this shit just like
everybody did. What about Sears apology?
Look what how he treated somebody he just he cared so
much about and was so affected by and was so apologetic to,
right? Look at how he acts.
He doesn't give a fuck. Like don't fall for it.
That's some bullshit. And I do think if it was like

(01:04:02):
true. Love and blah blah blah.
They would have went into this reunion not being defensive.
They would have been we know we're wrong.
We know we're shitty. You know, we couldn't help how
we felt. We can.
And then I would have been like,you know what?
Yeah, let people just fucking say what they need to say and
just take it then I then. But the fact that they're being
defensive, the fact that Wes is like freaking Amanda's a little
Chihuahua just barking, barking,barking.

(01:04:23):
He's just sitting there and there doesn't give a fuck about
staring. Ray, J.
Go. Fucking other bitches.
Period period exclamation point.That's the new thing I've been
saying, and I kind of love that period exclamation point.
I saw a reunion where Ray J was with his girl.
And then he like snapped his fingers or said go get her.
And he and she got up and I put together context clues that he

(01:04:44):
probably. Snapped to somebody like that
but EW. But no.
Like that's so embarrassing for Amanda.
Like he doesn't even claim her. Like they're not even anyways.
And maybe I'm old school, but like when you do.
Something that hurtful knock on my door, I'm a slam door in your
face, but sending me a text, I'mjust like, yeah, ChatGPT, write

(01:05:05):
that for you. Yeah.
And it's like I would. Like I honestly, I will look at
these people sideways if they start like, I mean, I'm sure
it'll happen. But like if everyone cuz even
like Bailey and Lindsay, like we're kind of like I know Bailey
said she had like checked in on Amanda because like it was
getting a little scary and dark for her.

(01:05:26):
And like Lindsay like it's like they have a little bit of an
open line of communication. Even if they don't, they're not
like friends with them right now.
But I feel like it could get to a place where they still are
friends with Amanda and West. And I just think that's wrong.
I heard the spinoff unfolds. Everything that happens with
Amanda, yeah. So in the city.
Originally didn't address it, soI think they're like tacking on

(01:05:46):
a bit of the fallout afterwards.So like, they probably started
filming stuff now we're going towatch it.
Even though I wouldn't have. Watched it otherwise Danielle's
on it, which I the CEO and founder herself, but it kind of
hit me up that she was the one that.
Called out Amanda back in the day.
I know that is really. She can't be trusted.
Yeah. But I just.
Don't like her, but that's fine.Like that's.

(01:06:08):
AI don't care for her claim to fame to have called.
It I think like Lindsay. Needs her own show.
Lindsay is hilarious. I.
It's so funny, 'cause like I started, I got into Summer House
Lee and like at first I was like, this woman's insufferable.
She's crazy. When she was dating, when she
was dating. What's his face, Carl?
I was like, I can't stand her. I couldn't stand her in so many
things and like. I was like what is the lore

(01:06:29):
behind this woman? Like I couldn't understand it
and now I'm like what a diva like what a fuck.
Lindsay became a. Mom and I'm like we was this I.
Like even like her weird ass shit, like she's like we're
having a freedom dinner. We're having a an announcement
for my like, it's just so funny.She's so there's two scenes in
Summer House that had like. Run free in my head OK and both

(01:06:49):
have to do with Paige OK love her one is when Lindsay gets.
Proposed to and. She's like, she wore shoulder
pants. She was like, of course she I
knew she was getting engaged andthen the.
Other is when Sierra is asking for the.
Expiration date on something sheOh my God, that's something we
would do. I would.
I was like, Sierra is me. That's me like.
And then usually one like hello,it expires in September, but it

(01:07:11):
says. August 13th, 1 is like August
13th. It's August 13th but it expires
in September. OK, so if it's August 13th and
when, what day in September doesthat expect?
It doesn't matter. It's August, it expires in
September and I those two are like my.
Favorite. Like, I laugh every time we

(01:07:31):
think about that. I love it.
It's so funny. And true, Let's get into Real
Housewives of Rhode Island, OK, I I think we.
Like kind of agree who our favorites are.
Alicia Gourami. Alicia's like that friend that
I'm just a queen with a cracker.Yeah, I'm just like I.
Look at her and I'm like, I can't even.
Be mad at you, her and her dollslike I.

(01:07:52):
The dolls, I was like, girl, you're creeping.
Yeah, I fucking die like. Real Housewives of Rhode Island
is such an incredible franchise.Where like the cast, Like, where
did you find these people? Very specifically Alicia Joellen
willing to say it all, do it all, investigate it all.

(01:08:14):
I'm living. I love Liz like and you know
what I like that there's no well, yes, there's going to be
like people kind of against eachother and like, you know, he
said she said kind of stuff. There's no true like villain of
the show. It's not like you like hate
someone And you know when you get this like angry like thing,

(01:08:34):
it's they're all yeah, well, yes, that's the Brian.
Brian, the non gym ownership. He's bringing her coffee every
morning. And I'm Jim Goer, no period.
He's a villain, but like, you know what I mean?
Like you get so angry and annoyed like that person.
It's not like that. Like everyone just has their own
lore and there are things that you could like and don't about,

(01:08:57):
like each person. Like sometimes you're like, oh,
that was a little crazy or that's amazing or that it's so
funny. Makes me like these two.
Girls look exactly the same. Dolores and Liz, No Rosie and
Kelsey. Yes.
And I'm just like which ones which?
Yes, Rosie is the news person. Yes, OK.
But Kelsey is like a little bit on a.

(01:09:17):
Planet of her own of Gorgina Ness.
Like she's so beautiful. I think they're both beautiful.
Of course they're I. Love the way, Rosie.
Dresses, I'm just. Like I need to be in her closet.
She dresses so cute. Hair always looks good, like,
really cute. Where like, she does a lot, but
I think it's so cute. Whereas Kelsey, I want to call
her Chelsea. Kelsey is like, more like

(01:09:38):
natural, like, you know, like she's just like, cute.
She's like, you know, like she doesn't do too much.
Are you sure? Yeah.
Oh my God. So glam.
Nosey. I think the opposite.
I think Rosie has like to me a baseball carousel newscaster for
sure. Yeah, she's wear has the dirt.
Like she wears things. I'm like, oh, I wouldn't wear
that at all. Yeah, she looked good.
Yeah. Yes, she.
Is like more yeah over the top, like the pink outfit with the

(01:10:00):
like 3D and her dress. Oh my God.
Every time I see the screen I'm like yeah.
It's so cute. I want.
That outfit, yeah, no, she is cute and fun.
I just think there's something about Kelsey that's so tea to
me, but it's just, I think I'm also biased at her lifestyle.
That I'm just like, I know what's going on.
But I. Still like love?
That's. The thing like there are things

(01:10:21):
that you could look at sideways,but you still have like
something about each of them that you just like they're just
perfect. I love me up cast like I like,
even with like I. Like I always mentioned, I don't
care what people choose to do with their lives but she's when
she's out to lunch with them andshe's like I love them both.
She goes but we're not. She's bringing the boyfriend

(01:10:42):
around while living. In the other guys like place,
she's not even hiding that she has like another man on the
side. It's so funny and Rosie's little
conversations, everything she does cracks me up.
But I do agree with her, like she's been 10 years with this
man, if he wants to take care ofher.
So she gets on her feet and likeI'm just like, OK, fine.
We love cordial. And she's right.
There's people that are in marriages for 10 years and they

(01:11:03):
get divorced. And they don't get yes, yes, so
I I saw her choice. I totally agree.
And I was dying when like they did the breakup.
Scene like the when the all the phones ping and blah, blah.
And like, like think about it now, like you're calling your
friend who's like going through a breakup and Liz is Facetiming
Kelsey and she's like, how you doing Ma?
Like whatever. And she's rolling her face with

(01:11:27):
the red light mask. She's just on the FaceTime
rolling her face. She's like, hey, ma, like she's
Kelsey's going through a break. I would like to think that's not
me. I would like to think I'd be
like at your door, like, Oh my God, you put everything down.
You'd be like, I'm on my way. I know it's funny, but like it
was you would just never FaceTime me and I'm doing

(01:11:48):
something with skin care. Like yes, I know it, but I was.
Gagged when she was like, like Leah let me do my fucking red
light therapy while I check in on Kelsey.
Like put it down for the FaceTime.
It's such a funny like juxtaposition.
Another thing I like. Appreciate it.
Too was when Rosie Ann's the onethat I.

(01:12:11):
Don't think too much, Ashley. They're friends, right?
The. Ones they're friends, Ashley I
yes, OK, so when they're in the room.
Talking. I was like.
Yeah, Kelsey know, I said go right in there.
They. Talking shit about you go right.
In there, she walked right in. I said I love this shit.
Yeah, I love this. I live for all of it.
Like I genuinely do and I think everyone has their place.
I'm like Ashley is also like if you planted like a normal person

(01:12:32):
like her mask in the wait. Maybe I didn't.
Finish the the end of this episode.
But what was it? It was just like a gold.
What was it? It was it was a gold face and
she had no more of a mask for they did like a.
Masquerade dinner. OK, OK.
Where they each kind of talk about and then Liz put masks
based on people's personality. So Rosie had this big one.

(01:12:54):
Joe Ellen had a jester. Oh my God, she's the one with.
The jester, I think she had the jester, yeah.
And then everyone was like, oh, Ashley got the worst.
That's hilarious. That is so funny, but I feel
like it's just it's so that's really tea.
I think it's funny that you justlike plant like a voice of
reason type of or like more normal person in the cuckoo

(01:13:14):
nest. And then you have Rula.
I forget about Rula. No listen.
So does her man. Like the previous episode with
the My parents are my mom's in the hospital, I got to go.
You've got to be joking. Wake up, stand up, girl.

(01:13:36):
Like it's to the point where nowshe's the one that's hard to
watch. Like it's embarrassed.
She's standing 10 toes down for this man.
Like this is, it's gone so far, Brian, get up and go like reason
or like the moment I knew. I love Joellen and when she's
talking to Rula in front of her man and like your.
Man, your man's. Cheating on you?
Yeah, You're letting him. It's so.

(01:13:57):
Funny. And I'm just like.
Her man's not saying shit. He's just standing there.
Yeah. He's like, I can't say anything
because. It's true.
And then really gets in the car.Why didn't you defend me?
This was your time to defend me.And then she goes on watch what
happens live. And Brian's in the audience and
Andy's like, well, what's going on?
Can't believe that. And he's like, yeah, this is all
like, made of bullshit. Like it's from it's old.

(01:14:19):
Is this is that the Joe Allen islike exactly what we needed.
She's got timeline. She's got texts in the real
time. She goes, they're in the car
right now. There's a post and Rula is like
literally sitting there like, oh, no, first of all, hold on a
second. The math ain't mathing.
You are about to get on this bus, right?
All of a sudden he's in crisis. He's got to go.

(01:14:40):
The timeline was so like and. Joellen doesn't.
Know she just thinks and they all were feeling bad like they
were like, oh, it's like I hope he's OK.
Like she actually said to Brian,like, you know, I hope you're I
hope she's OK. Then she gets his text and she's
like, aghast. And it's the, it's perfect
timing. Timing.
Like they leave and all of a sudden this happens.
Yeah. It makes sense.

(01:15:00):
They call Rula. Make it make sense.
You're a man's. Then that's your husband.
So that's your mother in Bitch wake up.

(01:15:20):
My thing too is like there are times where.
People's relationships like theyknow they're men stepping out,
they don't care, that's their feel like they choose.
But the fact that his mistress is ballsy enough to post
pictures, she's also great knowing.
Knowing he's married. Like, that's when I'm like, OK,
one, not only do you make me look stupid, this side bitch is
making me look stupid. There's no way in hell I'm

(01:15:42):
never. I cannot imagine me that.
Yeah, and she keeps like, calling like.
She used a word, what was the word that he was going to say?
Like the Brian was like on watchwhat Happens live and he was
going to use a word, I forget what it was like some derogatory
term to describe her. And you could tell that's the
word they use for the mistress. And she he was like, oh, and the

(01:16:04):
and then he stopped himself and she's like, no, you could say
it. I was like, Rula, don't sit here
and talk shit about this woman. She's laughing at you.
He's the biggest one that's laughing.
And he is too. Like, yeah.
I agree. You know, like you think.
That it's. So just admit it, like I think
it was Liz who said it, who was just like, just say, you know

(01:16:24):
what? You don't talk.
You've sometimes you just acceptit and that's fine.
But like, stop trying to pretendlike you don't think this is
happening. Insane.
I can't even believe how much he's double s down with this
man. One part that we watched.
I'm. I'm not.
Sure, if you got up to it yet, but when Jo Ellen's talking
about like how she went with hermom and how and there was a part
that. Was like, Oh my God, this is so.

(01:16:44):
Sad. She said that she feels like
she's not very warm and she's a little cold because.
Yeah but I don't think that about Jo Ellen I think she
stands up for her friends Yeah. I think she's a great wife Yeah,
great mother. So I think while she may.
She says it's straight Yeah, andI but I.
Do think there's a warmness? To her that she doesn't realize.
Yeah. Like, I don't think she's a bad.
She doesn't seem cold. She's forward.
Yeah. And but I don't think that's
cold. Yeah.

(01:17:05):
Yeah. So I think she needs to give
herself more credit because she's actually sweet.
Yeah. And like, she's actually, she's
looking at her. She's like, look.
Like I'm telling even when they sat down and she was like, I
just want you to know this information, if you're good with
it, whatever. But you're telling me that you
would want to know like that's actually true.
Like she's sitting there, she's like, well, if, if no, if
something's actually still goingon, but it's not.

(01:17:26):
She's like, if something's actually still going on, I would
want to know. She's like, well, it is.
And she's like, no, it's not. And then she gets so defensive.
And Liz. Said it perfectly.
If you want us to stop talking about your marriage, say that.
Yes, we'll let him do whatever how he's doing.
He won't say nothing. And she doesn't say that.
So they're trying to help you. And if you really don't want the
help, say that. Say I'm going to stay with my,

(01:17:48):
you know, I'm a sick as Adam. Yeah, literally.
Oh my Lord. And my thing is, I find it so
funny that. Joe Ellen is friends with the
girl and sees her boasting and the girl doesn't block or delete
her like so tea I love. It I live for that line of
communication. Joe Ellen deserves her flowers
for caringness then. Incredible.

(01:18:09):
Do you want the we could be friends?
Oh my God, no. I'm I'll come visit for some
lobster roast. Like the whole cast?
Obsessed like Gold Star, amazingfor Yolo, needs to move there so
she could be all up in that. I love it, I live for it.
Obsessed. It's If you guys are watching
Watch, yeah. Such great TV.
Yeah, it's all right. Same place same time next week.

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