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February 10, 2026 • 32 mins

Dr. Joan Neehall is joined by world-renowned couples expert DR. STAN TATKIN to explore the psychobiology of adult relationships. They discuss the critical difference between secure attachment and "secure functioning," explaining why relationships require a conscious design and shared purpose to survive the pressures of biology and stress.

KEY DISCUSSION POINTS:

  • SECURE FUNCTIONING: Why relationships are social contracts that require "governance."
  • THE AUTONOMIC NERVOUS SYSTEM: How our biological threat systems drive reflexive conflict.
  • THE LAW OF ENERGY CONSERVATION: Why we become "lazy" in long-term relationships and how to combat it.
  • INTERDEPENDENCE VS. AUTONOMY: Lessons on building a shared vision and purpose.

ABOUT DR. STAN TATKIN:

Dr. Stan Tatkin is a clinician, researcher, and co-founder of the PACT Institute. He specializes in a psychobiological approach to couple therapy and serves as an assistant clinical professor at UCLA.

Website: https://thepactinstitute.com/

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