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May 25, 2026 29 mins

Most commercial leaders think they’ve got a pipeline problem when they’ve actually got a systems diagnosis problem. This conversation with Michael Manzi gets into the difference between copying tactics and actually understanding what drives performance. There’s a massive difference.

We talked about why most sales playbooks fail when they’re transplanted into a new business, how leaders accidentally drive top performers out of the door, and the one variable Mike found that doubled a sales team’s win rate in 30 days. If you run a revenue function, there’s a lot in here worth stealing.

In this episode

A lot of leaders confuse tools with strategy. That’s where things start breaking.

  • How to separate a real playbook from recycled tactics
  • How to identify the single variable actually driving revenue
  • How to stop over-managing your top performers
  • How to remove excuses before diagnosing performance issues
  • How to create buy-in before asking a team to change
Episode highlights
  • [03:59] Mike admits he drove a top performer out of the business by overcorrecting into rigid management
  • [05:00] The idea every commercial leader should steal: make deposits before making demands
  • [09:04] Why most “playbooks” are just random tools duct-taped together from previous jobs
  • [13:22] The surprisingly brilliant curling analogy for leadership and performance management
  • [17:22] The data exercise that uncovered the one variable driving an 87% win rate
  • [20:00] How one strategic change doubled sales effectiveness in 30 days
  • [28:03] “On your forehead it says: I can fire you” and why great managers never forget it
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