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May 20, 2025 84 mins

In this engaging conversation, Jessica Craven shares her journey into activism and content creation, emphasizing the importance of taking action in the face of political challenges. She discusses her newsletter, 'Chop Wood, Carry Water,' which encourages daily engagement in democracy. The conversation explores the philosophy behind her activism, the role of charisma in politics, and the challenges faced by the DNC in selecting effective leaders. Jessica's insights highlight the need for practical action and the complexities of political engagement in today's society.

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