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February 3, 2023 47 mins

In this episode we are joined by Dr. Grieve Chelwa to look at the Zambian debt crisis, China’s relationship with Zambia, US Sec. Treasury Janet Yellen’s visit to Lusaka, and the kafwafwa caused by the US in the DRC-Zambia agreement on developing renewable energy resources. 


Dr. Grieve Chelwa is a Zambian economist with broad research interests mainly in the area of African Economic Development. Grieve currently serves as director of research at the Institute on Race, Power and Political Economy at the New School and also serves as coordinator of the Collective on African Political Economy (CAPE) which is housed by Tricontinental: Institute for Social Research. 


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The Crane: An Africa-China Podcast is a bi-monthly podcast giving you a fresh look at the news, events, and debates around China-Africa relations from the perspective of two young(ish) Africans.

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