December 9, 2024 • 38 mins
What happened in Syria and should you care? Brandon Weichert explains this whole Syria thing. Lindsey Graham’s response to ISIS strikes in Syria. Trying to fix the mess we created. Backing a comic book villain. Why did the brass in DC start pushing back against Assad? Turkey turning to a guerrilla force to go after their own guerrilla rebels.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Monday. It's
an enormous Monday. It is so freaking huge, just like
my hands are. It's gonna take us a while to
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get a handle on everything. First of all, Syria, what's
going on? Would you like to know about Syria America's
forum policy? What are the details? It's so confusing the
Syrians and Isis and olt Keda and the Kurds. But
we are gonna talk a lot of Syria in the
first hour tonight, just to get you and I both
boned up on everything. I have an expert coming up
(00:53):
about a half hour from now. I'll do a little
lead up into Kim Brandan Wikert and we'll be a
lot smarter at the end of this first hour. Then
we have Medal of Honor Monday. Daniel Penny found not
guilty in New York City. That's freaking awesome. Of course,
black lives matters, upset with it, birthright citizenship emails. Fifty
two percent of gen Z females consider themselves feminists. We'll
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have a lot of fun with that. All that and
so much more coming up tonight on the world famous
Jesse Kelly Show. Now have I ever told you about
the time I saw a woman get body slammed? So
here's the deal. This is going somewhere. Just sit back.
Remember when I told you I was in the Marines
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and they maybe go be a cop for a while.
I was in the infantry, but they it's called faped.
You get fapped out to go. They'll grab guys from
infantry units and go make them do something else for
a little while. If they're shorthanded. They love, they love
grabbing infantry guys to go be cops, Marine Corps cops.
(01:59):
It's called the Marcials Office. I'm just gonna call it
cops for now to make it easier to understand. Obviously,
we already have the weapons training, you're gonna have a
more aggressive individual. It's just that it's a nice transition.
It's an easier transition. So they made me go be
a cop for a while. And in twenty nine Palms, California.
It's probably this way in many many bases, but I
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can only speak for twenty nine Palms. That's where I was.
There was all this on base housing where if you
were married you could live there with your wife at
either a house or they had some really rundown, crappy stuff.
It wasn't a great living situation, but you could live there.
But they also outside of the base, they had an
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off base but on base housing, meaning you if you
drove off the base and you drove into the very
rundown town of twenty nine Palms, California, there was this
little section that obviously wasn't part of the base, but
it was kind of halfway leased out either way. Base
people in their families could possibly live in this little
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area of town, and we we had to patrol the base,
and that oftentimes involved leaving our base and going out
into town and patrolling that area as well. It also
meant we had responsibilities when it came to that area,
but we split those responsibilities, or I should say share
(03:26):
those responsibilities with the local sheriff. So if there was
anything that happened in this community outside of the base,
we would have to show up because it's a marine
problem of some kind, and the sheriffs would have to
show up because it's also civilian territory and whatnot. Aren't
you with me? And one night we get a call
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and it's the call you don't want. There are many
calls you don't want. You know, there's a fire, there's
something like that. But this is one of those calls
where you go, oh gosh, it's we just called it
a domestic but domestic dispute, domestic disturbance. Pick your label
would you want to put on it. It's the call
of there's a husband and wife and they're having some problems.
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There are various degrees of problems. Right there's he's beating
her up and you better get over there to save
her life, or they're just shouting at each other. But
either way, someone made a call. There's a problem, and
it's at the place outside of the base. So I
happen to be in charge that night. Hop in my car, buddy,
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we are heading out there, lights blazing, heading out there,
trying to see what exactly the problem is. We have
to coordinate with the local sheriff. He shows up same
time we show up, and we go into this house
and you can feel the tension, the hatred. This is
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all gonna go somewhere. I don't care if you want
me to hurry up. I'm going somewhere with this to
just sit there for a second. You can feel the tension.
You walk in and you don't know any part of
their history. It was this marine. He was the marine.
His wife was Chinese. She was this low Asian Chinese woman.
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Her English wasn't all that great. But you walk in,
I walk in. I've never met him, I've never met her.
The Sheriff's never met him, the sheriff's met her. We
don't know anything about their history. I don't know his
family history, her family history. I don't know the history
of them as a married couple. I don't know whether
they've had fifteen beautiful years together of laughter and love.
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I don't know whether they do heroin and they're off time.
I don't know whether they take turns punching each other
in the face. I don't know whether there's abuse going
either way. I walk in and I don't know anything
because it's not my house. It's their house. They have
lived there, they know the history. I am a stranger.
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But not only am I a stranger. Not only is
the sheriff who walked in with me a stranger, but
we are walking in as strangers, as people unfamiliar with
the situation, attempting to seize control of the situation. It's
not like I walked in to just say, hey, you
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mind if I pull up a chair. I want to
watch you guys have it out. No, no, no, no, I'm
there to referee, maybe even arrest somebody. I'm not there
as a bystander. I'm there to stick my nose in it.
And there is a reason when you turn on the
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news and you see a law enforcement officer has been
killed in the line of duty, that a large portion
of time. It's not the majority, of course, there are
different things. But if that cop was killed on purpose,
meaning it's not a car that sideswiped them when he
pulled someone over. But if that car, if that cop
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was killed on purpose, there's a pretty good chance that
cop was killed at a domestic dispute because you are
stepping in to attempt to stick your nose in a
situation you don't know about, and the emotions in that
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situation are as high as emotions get. Because in a home,
that's where emotions are the most extreme. It will bring
you the most happiness, but because you're close, it will
bring you the most sadness, the most anger. That's where
peak emotion is inside of the home and you the outsider,
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are walking in and you're going to stick your nose
in it, and it's dan. Now, let's talk about Syria
America foreign policy. Everybody's foreign policy is a little bit different.
No one shares the same identical foreign policy because foreign
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policy is complicated, and I acknowledge fully it is complicated.
So let's talk about Syria because this could go really,
really sideways on us. You want to talk about a
domestic situation, you don't want to stick your nose in.
I'll tell you what I'm going to read for you something.
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It's a little bit long, but this is one of
the people Lindsey Graham, Senator of South Carolina. Lindsey Graham.
Maybe i'll even read it in that voice. This is
one of the people who, of course wants to get
more involved. I'm not even going to edit this for
my purposes. I'm going to read you what Lindsey Graham
wrote down, and you tell me if this seems like
a simple situation, we should definitely get involved. In quote
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I appreciate the air strikes against ISIS targets in Syria,
but it will not be enough. We have to ensure
that roughly fifty thousand ISIS prisoners in northeastern Syria being
primarily held by Kurdish forces, are not released. We should
not allow the Kurdish forces who helped us destroy ISIS
on President Trump's watch to be threatened by Turkey or
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radical Islamists who've taken over Syria. Turkey has legitimate concerns
regarding different groups that reside in northeastern Syria, but there
is conflict between Turkey and the Syrian Democrat forces. Or
Turkey attacks Kurdish forces, it will set in motion and
ISIS jail break, which will be a nightmare for America.
The last time ISIS was in charge, thousands of Europeans
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and Americans were killed by ISIS plots that originated in Syria. Furthermore,
the reemergence of ISIS creates chaos throughout the region, which
is going to lead to higher gas prices for us
at home. Turkey deserves to have a demilitarized buffer zone
between northeastern Syria and Turkey to protect Turkis interest. However,
turk It takes military actions against Kurdish forces and steered
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that of Oh my gosh, I could keep going. This
is one of the people telling us to get involved.
Are your eyes glazed over? Are they rolled in the
back of your head? Yet? Did you even make even
the slightest bit of sense there? Sounds complicated, doesn't It
sounds like there's a lot of history there, a lot
of people pulling different directions. Sounds like it should be
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a big old mess. So what should we do about it? Well,
let's talk about that, and we'll talk about what we
are doing about it. Maybe Lindsay will chime in again.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
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seven three seven seven four three seven three. So the
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Syrian government falls, Alisade falls. Now, who are these rebels? Well,
that's complicated and I'll get into more details with Brandon
Wickert in a moment. The rebels are nightmarish. Ali Sad
was nightmarish. He has had a fifty year rule where
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he's used chemical weapons on his own people. It was
really really bad. He's a terrible person. But the people
who are taking over are terrible. They're kind of an
Al Qaeda Isis joint effort where those two groups have
previously hate each other. They are Sunni's soony extremists. Obviously
they're extremists and what they want is obviously not going
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to be anything good, very very ugly. It's all bad.
It's all bad, everything, every part of it is ugly.
Joe Biden, don't worry though, yo. I mean, I've read
you the whole complicated involvement that Lindsey Graham wants to do. Now,
let me ask you, does this person look like he
can command and oversee such an effort?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We will help stability, resure stability in Eastern Respiria, protecting
any personnel are personnel against any threats and will remain
our mission against is supposed to be maintained, including a
security of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held
as prisoners.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, sure, sure, sure, I wanted to address that part.
You're going to hear a lot of that. Lindsey Graham
referenced fifty thousand ISIS prisoners. I've heard the numbers, thirty thousand,
it doesn't matter. Here's what you need to know. Kurds.
You're going to hear that word a lot. Kurdish forces, Kurds, Kurds, Curds.
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Don't oversimplify anything when it comes to this. That's complicated too.
There are Kurds who have been very friendly with US
and US friendly with them, and we've been allies to us,
and they've been allied and we've been allied with them.
That's not universal for all Kurds. However, there are Kurdish
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forces residing within Syria that have been doing this with
our help. We have about nine hundred US troops helping
them do this. Remember that whole Isis war, we had
those terrible freaking demons and isis or butchering babies and
rap and everyone and doing all the lovely things that
Isis does. Well, there were a lot of captive captives.
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Why can't I talk today? A lot of prisoners of
war Isis people from that war? You with me? Well,
we took all these people in we'll call it fifty thousand.
They all have citizenship in one country or another, but
none of their countries will take them back. They're the
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most evil, demonic people out there. And it's not only men, men,
women and even kids. And they are so radicalized, so
twisted their own countries won't even take them back as prisoners.
So what could you do? We live in a much softer,
kinder society. I know personally, how I would handle such
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a problem. But since that's not the society we live
in now, we struck a deal, everyone really struck a
deal with the Kurdish forces to essentially guard these people
as prisoners, and the Kurds with us are currently guarding
these people in Syria. Now you can see how that
would be a problem for a couple different reasons. One Turkey,
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the Turks hate the Kurds, so they're not exactly going
to help. Two who just took over Syria, As I said,
al Qaeda isis. Do you think they might be interested
in adding fifty thousand reinforcements to their number after they
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just took over a country? You think they might be
invested in getting those prisoners out by any means necessary.
Of course they will, So it was just I wanted
to explain that portion of it for those who may
get confused when you hear people talking about the prisoners
they have. We have to mansure the prisoners. It's really
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important that by any means necessary, those prisoners don't get
free again, because those are the most radicalized nutballs who
will go on to murder and rape and butcher like
they all did before. Back to our discussion, does this
person sound like he can navigate this situation.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
This past few days have been historic, and you know
the day's ahead and will determine the future of this country.
We intend to approach them with strength, wisdom a result.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, it's it's an ugly situation, but it's also a
domestic dispute. And I do realize, this is Jeffrey Sachs
on MSNBC. I realize we have to own a lot
of that situation there here. It is.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
This is a US mistake that started seven years ago.
And I remember the day on your show when President
Obama said Asad must go. And I looked at you
and Joe and I said, huh, how's he going to
do that? Where's the policy for that? And we know
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they sent in the CIA to overthrow Asad. The CIA
and Saudi Arabia together in covert operations, tried to overthrow Asad.
It was a disaster. Eventually, it brought in both Isis
as a splinter group to the Jihadis that went in.
It also brought in Russia. So we have been digging
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deeper and deeper in deeper. What we should do now
is get out.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Did I mention it's a domestic dispute we helped create.
But don't worry. We're gonna get involved now and fix
the mess we helped create. Yeah, so you want to
dig into more detail with it. You want to sound
smarter than all of your friends. That's why I'm bringing
Brandon Wikert on right about now, well about a few
minutes from now, before we get to Brandon Wikers. Maybe
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Jesse Kelly Show. And joining me now is national security
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analyst Brandon Wikert, who actually picked an outstanding intro song.
Bravo to Brandon. Okay, Brandon, first of all, go ahead
and get this out of the way. First. You and
I know each other, so this won't be hard for you.
I want you to imagine that I have the mind
of a child. I don't know anything about Syria, and
it's so confusion with the forces and the Kurds in
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al Qaeda, but Alsad is bad, and so knowing that
I don't know squat, please explain to me and take
your time. What is happening and why should I give
a crap?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Okay, So the bottom line is you should give a
crap because our intelligence services, along with Turks and I've
decided to give a bunch of money and a bunch
of guns to a guy named Mohammad Jilani who's the
head of a terrorist group called HTS, which is taken
over the country of Syria, whatever's left of it. And
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Jilani was a member of Al Qaeda in Iraq. He
killed scores of our troops during the insurgency with IEDs
most likely, and he basically is like a comic book
villain that we're trying to now rehabilitate because we've nominated
him to be our guy to knock out the Russians
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and the Iranians and Asad from Syria not realizing that
we're basically handing the country over to the next bin wive.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Okay, well, that all sounds pretty horrific. Let's pause on
that overview for a moment, and I want you to
tell me about Asad Brandon. Who is this guy? What's
his history? I understand he's not warm and cuddly either.
There aren't really aren't good guys here, But again, pretend
I'm a kid who is a sad where'd he come from?
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Why are we against him? Why does Russia like him?
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, it goes back to his father, Hayfez assad Haiphez
was the real brutal maniac and he took over Syria
about fifty years ago. He was a secular dictator, was
very anti Islamist. He was a Baphist like Saddam was.
In fact, he's very close with Saddam. And the Russians
have had or had naval base and an air base
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in Syria since the late nineteen seventies that even after
the fall of the Berlin Wall at the Soviet Union,
they maintained and so for them. For the Russians, well,
because it gives them power projection, It gives them the
ability to move forces in and out of the eastern
Mediterranean Sea. And the Russians historically have wanted that. They
wanted warm water ports. They've only got four of them,
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so this is one of them and they just lost it.
So that's why they support Asad. Asad was a dictator
and he was a guy that used to brutalize his
own people. But particularly and this is not reporting the press,
he was especially hard on the Sunni Arab population. Jilani
is from this population. But the reason he was so
hard was because the Muslim Brotherhood, which is sort of
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the mothership of Islamic terrorism, was operating in large numbers
among that population, so he would hyphez would kill them
all and then his son took over in two thousand.
After he died, Bashar Assad and Basher continued to be
horrible to his people, But ultimately Bashar al Assad was
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not a Jihatis. In fact, he was an anti Jihadis,
and he could have been used by US to go
after the al Qaeda types in his midst Instead, we
pushed him out and handed the country basically over to
al Qaeda.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Okay, let's focus on the pushing out of Ala Sad.
How I know what just happened, But the genesis of
this why what was our particular acts to grind with him?
Was this economical? Was this Islamic terrorism? Was it his
association with Russia? With Russia, why did the geniuses in
DC decide this guy needed to go?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It had to do with his association with Russia and
the fact that Iran was partnered with him, And so
basically we were playing a game of risk. Basically, you know,
we just looked at the map and said, oh, we
want to get the Russians out of their warm water ports,
and one of them's in Syria. That's the weakest one,
and so we're gonna put pressure on a SOD to
get out of power so we can push out the
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Russians and by extension to the Iranians, which actually helps.
That helps the Israelis as well, because these Israelis are
getting supplies I'm sorry, Hesbela attacking Israel is backed by Iran,
and they're getting supplies through Syria. So if you get
rid of a SOD in Syria, those supplies won't make
it to Hesbela, and Israel will also be safer. The
only problem is, in order to do that, you've just
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handed the country over to an actual jihadist who hates Israel,
who hates America, and it's going to turn on us
eventually with our own weapons.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, that all sounds really lovely. Now explain this to
me before we get to the bat well, the bad guys.
I realized they're all bad guys. Before we get to
the rebels who just took over completely. The rebels who
just took over. It's my understanding. Please correct me if
I'm wrong that this is kind of a collab between
out Qaeda and ISIS. Now, I do know enough to
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know that those two are not exactly best. Why are
they collabing? How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, they're collabing because ultimately they're all Islamists and they
all want the same thing. They want the restoration of
the ancient Califate that collapse at the end of the
First World War when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. It's why
they've also aligned with the Turks, because the Turks are
giving them money and weapons and intelligence and even some
leadership on the battlefield in exchange for pushing Islam's flag forward,
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creating a new Islamic state in Syria. These are things
that all of those groups want, and so that's why
suddenly these ISIS and al Qaeda types are working together.
They have a shared interest. They want territory in Syria
and they want a new base to go basically to
go ham on the rest of the region in the world.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Okay, now, Turkey, tell me about their interests. Why would
Turkey be supportive of a radical jihadist organization taking over
a country on its border that generally doesn't go well well.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So the Turks are at war with an ethnic group
in their country that also lives in northern Syria and
northern Iraq, called the Kurds. We have supported the Kurds
for decades. They're the largest stateless population in the world,
and so the Turks want to destroy them. They're threatened
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by them. More importantly, Airdiwan, the president of Turkey, believes
he's the next sultan of a new Ottoman Empire, and
so he's doing this to go after the Kurds. But
also he's using Jihati groups because he thinks crazy. It's crazy.
He thinks he can control the Jihadis. Well. He doesn't
realize is that the Jihadas are going to turn on
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him as soon as they get what they want in
Syria because they're not going to be wanting to be
led by an ethnic Turk anymore. They want to be
led by ethnic Persians from Iran. And so that's what's
going on with the Turkey element. He's trying to rebuild
the Ottoman Empire with himself and Turkey as the head
of it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Now you say Turkey has wanted to destroy the Curds.
He has Curds in his own country as Kurds in
northern Syria bordering his country. I got all that, But
Turkey has, unless I'm mistaken, they have the largest military
in Europe I believe. How have they not been able
to destroy the Curds with the largest military in Europe.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Well, because it's the same reason we haven't been able
to destroy Al Kaina or Isis with the largest military
in the world. These are very wily fighters. We're also
supporting the Curves. And also the Turks have been afraid
if they go totally, you know, genocidal against the Curds,
that the Americans and the Europeans will step in and
go against Turkey. And that's not something that Turkey really
(27:42):
wants to deal with. So there's that issue. But it's
hard to destroy. I mean, you were in the military,
you know this is very difficult to go after gorilla fighters.
They're just a very difficult kind of warfare. And Turkey
is a modern military force like ours, and modern military
forces have trouble rooting out these large, kind of asymmetrical
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threats such as the Kurds.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, they certainly do, Brandon, I hate to ask I
should have asked you before him. But we haven't even
got to the rebels. Why Israel's amassing troops on the
Golden Heights, what the acts to grind is with Saudi Abia.
This is a long way of me asking you, do
you have another quick segment for me to go over,
just a couple of these things to make us smarter
as we can brag to our friends. Sure, sure, okay,
(28:27):
we will be right back with Brandon Wikert making all
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But I want to get right back here. Joining me now.
National security guy getting us a lot smarter on what's
going on in Syria, my friend Brendan Wikert. All right, Brandon,
you already got us boned up on a sod and
what Turkey's acts to grind is. But israel I saw
(30:16):
today in response to all this is starting to take
the high ground of the goal and heights.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
For what reason, Well, because they know that first of all,
they just well, we just handed over Syria to an
Islamis that probably wants to annihilate the Israelis as much
as the Iranians and assad did. So it's not really
a win for them, and so they need to kind
of project power deeper into Syria before Jilani can solidify
(30:45):
his hold over the territory. Then, of course you've also
got the added issue of they're trying in Israel to
break those supply chains linking Iran with Hezbolah in neighboring Lebanon,
and so in order to ensure that those supply lines
are never restored and that Hesbola can't basically grow beyond
Lebanon into stateless Syria, they want to have a permanent
(31:07):
blocking position there. They're also talking, and I think this
is probably a bridge too far, but they're also talking
about aligning their interests with the Druze population in southwestern
Syria and then creating a quote quote freedom corridor connecting
southwest Syria controlled by Israel with US controlled Kurdish elements
(31:29):
in eastern Syria to try to create a Kurdish Druze
federation backed by US and Israeli forces to counteract the
obvious threat that this Jihatis controlled Theria will.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Be Okay, you said that's a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Why, well, the Israeli military is already stretched, it is gone.
It is incredible what they've been able to do a
very small military. It's incredible what they've been able to do,
going on against Gaza in the south, going after Hamas,
to contain Fatime the West Bank. At the same time
basically starting a major conflict between itself and Hesblah in
(32:07):
the north. This is a multi, multi front war and
now they're opening up another front in Syria. So this
is they're stretching themselves to their breaking point.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, again speaking with Brandon Weiker teaching us about this stuff. Now, Brandon, sorry,
you're gonna have to merge these worlds for me too.
Why would a pipeline continue to Hesbalah, which is obviously
a proxy of Iran when these are all Sheite groups
and you just got done telling us that it was
a soon a bunch of radicals that just took go
(32:40):
over Syria and soon He'es and she Heites don't exactly
get along.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
No, no, well, this is why Israel is setting up
a permanent shop there. It's to basically ensure that there's
no bleedover between say Hesbola looking for a new territory
to basically call its own in stateless Syria. So they're
trying to basically create like a wall of troops and
(33:05):
air power and artillery that will basically now that Hesbal
hasn't cut off from those supply chains from Iran, they're
now going to squeeze Lebanon from every direction.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Okay, you mentioned stateless Syria. That's one thing. As we've
seen many times in history, it's one thing to win
a war and take over a country. It's another thing
entirely to keep it in governance. I can't imagine a
joint Isis al Kaeda effort has a robust plan to
pave the roads and build schools, But what do we
know about how established these guys are going to be
(33:38):
anything yet.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
No, but if there's anything from history as a guide,
they will turn on each other and that will create
as many problems then as just a new Jihati controlled
Syria would cout for us. Either way you look at it,
it's going to be a new breeding ground for Islamic
militancy directed against the United States Israel and it's allies,
(34:00):
and I'm like, say, Afghanistan or even Iraq. Syria is
now in a long land border with Israel, which means
that Israel is really going to have to always be
on God.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Okay, now, explain to me what we want done with
the I've heard thirty thousand. I've heard it's fifty thousand.
There are a bunch of Isis prisoners the Kurds have.
Why haven't we just killed them?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Well, that's a question that I keep asking. I don't
understand why there's even this. I get because the argument
is that, oh, well there's some innocent people of political
prisoners and whatnot that are actually pro West. But ultimately
we are talking about basically opening up Arkham Asylum and
Batman and letting all the bad villains out. We should
(34:46):
just bomb those facilities before they can be opened up
and those bad guys can be released into the wild.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I agree. Okay, finally I'm going to let you go.
I swear after this one. Saudi Arabia, I'm told that
this new regime, I hope it doesn't turn out to
be a regime. The victorious rebels have a real axe
to grind with the House of Sad. What's their problem again,
they're all Sunnis.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Well no, but ultimately remember it's the same problem that
bin Laden had. They believe the House of Sod is apostate,
that they are too close to the Americans and the
Jews and the Europeans the Christians to be of any
help to the gram Gihad. So they want to overthrow
that in order to ensure that Saudi Arabia, the land
(35:34):
of Mecca and Medina where Mohammad is from, will be
pure Islam and they can basically create the truly pan
Islamic Caliate based there, as opposed to justin Syria or Afghanistan.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I assume the Christian population of Syria's in some serious
trouble now, and I don't assume there are any Jews
left in that country.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Correct, I would say both is very true.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yes, okay, that's what I thought. Brendon Weiker, thank you
so much, my brother.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Thats there.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I have so much more knowledge now, and I already
had this gargantuan amount of what Chris. I had this
huge amount of knowledge, maybe the most knowledgeable person ever,
And now that I just got all this information from Brandon. Now,
I'm a super genius. Look but now look that was
two segments. A little complicated, isn't it. There's a bit
(36:26):
going on, right. It took two segments just to hash out, Okay,
what's the new regime, what's Turkey's involvement, what's Israel doing?
Why are they doing it? Iran's involved here, you have
Hezbollah involved here, you have Saudi Arabia involved here. And
this is why I mean you hear things like this,
and what.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The new constitution, new governess serves all series. This process
to be determined by the Syrian people themselves. In the
United States will do whatever we can to support them,
including through rumaniitarian relief, help restore Shiria after more than
a decade of war.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
A new constitution that'll be determined by the Syrian people.
The country was just taken taken over by by al Qaeda,
Isis inc. They're not interested in an American drafted constitution.
So why do we do this do it all the time. Well,
(37:25):
there's a lot of reasons for it. Money, power, stuff
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This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
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we are gonna talk a lot of Syria in the
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so much more coming up tonight on the world famous
Jesse Kelly Show. Now have I ever told you about
the time I saw a woman get body slammed? So
here's the deal. This is going somewhere. Just sit back.
Remember when I told you I was in the Marines
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and they maybe go be a cop for a while.
I was in the infantry, but they it's called faped.
You get fapped out to go. They'll grab guys from
infantry units and go make them do something else for
a little while. If they're shorthanded. They love, they love
grabbing infantry guys to go be cops, Marine Corps cops.
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It's called the Marcials Office. I'm just gonna call it
cops for now to make it easier to understand. Obviously,
we already have the weapons training, you're gonna have a
more aggressive individual. It's just that it's a nice transition.
It's an easier transition. So they made me go be
a cop for a while. And in twenty nine Palms, California.
It's probably this way in many many bases, but I
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can only speak for twenty nine Palms. That's where I was.
There was all this on base housing where if you
were married you could live there with your wife at
either a house or they had some really rundown, crappy stuff.
It wasn't a great living situation, but you could live there.
But they also outside of the base, they had an
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off base but on base housing, meaning you if you
drove off the base and you drove into the very
rundown town of twenty nine Palms, California, there was this
little section that obviously wasn't part of the base, but
it was kind of halfway leased out either way. Base
people in their families could possibly live in this little
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area of town, and we we had to patrol the base,
and that oftentimes involved leaving our base and going out
into town and patrolling that area as well. It also
meant we had responsibilities when it came to that area,
but we split those responsibilities, or I should say share
(03:26):
those responsibilities with the local sheriff. So if there was
anything that happened in this community outside of the base,
we would have to show up because it's a marine
problem of some kind, and the sheriffs would have to
show up because it's also civilian territory and whatnot. Aren't
you with me? And one night we get a call
(03:48):
and it's the call you don't want. There are many
calls you don't want. You know, there's a fire, there's
something like that. But this is one of those calls
where you go, oh gosh, it's we just called it
a domestic but domestic dispute, domestic disturbance. Pick your label
would you want to put on it. It's the call
of there's a husband and wife and they're having some problems.
(04:14):
There are various degrees of problems. Right there's he's beating
her up and you better get over there to save
her life, or they're just shouting at each other. But
either way, someone made a call. There's a problem, and
it's at the place outside of the base. So I
happen to be in charge that night. Hop in my car, buddy,
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we are heading out there, lights blazing, heading out there,
trying to see what exactly the problem is. We have
to coordinate with the local sheriff. He shows up same
time we show up, and we go into this house
and you can feel the tension, the hatred. This is
(04:54):
all gonna go somewhere. I don't care if you want
me to hurry up. I'm going somewhere with this to
just sit there for a second. You can feel the tension.
You walk in and you don't know any part of
their history. It was this marine. He was the marine.
His wife was Chinese. She was this low Asian Chinese woman.
(05:18):
Her English wasn't all that great. But you walk in,
I walk in. I've never met him, I've never met her.
The Sheriff's never met him, the sheriff's met her. We
don't know anything about their history. I don't know his
family history, her family history. I don't know the history
of them as a married couple. I don't know whether
they've had fifteen beautiful years together of laughter and love.
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I don't know whether they do heroin and they're off time.
I don't know whether they take turns punching each other
in the face. I don't know whether there's abuse going
either way. I walk in and I don't know anything
because it's not my house. It's their house. They have
lived there, they know the history. I am a stranger.
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But not only am I a stranger. Not only is
the sheriff who walked in with me a stranger, but
we are walking in as strangers, as people unfamiliar with
the situation, attempting to seize control of the situation. It's
not like I walked in to just say, hey, you
(06:26):
mind if I pull up a chair. I want to
watch you guys have it out. No, no, no, no, I'm
there to referee, maybe even arrest somebody. I'm not there
as a bystander. I'm there to stick my nose in it.
And there is a reason when you turn on the
(06:48):
news and you see a law enforcement officer has been
killed in the line of duty, that a large portion
of time. It's not the majority, of course, there are
different things. But if that cop was killed on purpose,
meaning it's not a car that sideswiped them when he
pulled someone over. But if that car, if that cop
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was killed on purpose, there's a pretty good chance that
cop was killed at a domestic dispute because you are
stepping in to attempt to stick your nose in a
situation you don't know about, and the emotions in that
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situation are as high as emotions get. Because in a home,
that's where emotions are the most extreme. It will bring
you the most happiness, but because you're close, it will
bring you the most sadness, the most anger. That's where
peak emotion is inside of the home and you the outsider,
(07:54):
are walking in and you're going to stick your nose
in it, and it's dan. Now, let's talk about Syria
America foreign policy. Everybody's foreign policy is a little bit different.
No one shares the same identical foreign policy because foreign
(08:15):
policy is complicated, and I acknowledge fully it is complicated.
So let's talk about Syria because this could go really,
really sideways on us. You want to talk about a
domestic situation, you don't want to stick your nose in.
I'll tell you what I'm going to read for you something.
(08:36):
It's a little bit long, but this is one of
the people Lindsey Graham, Senator of South Carolina. Lindsey Graham.
Maybe i'll even read it in that voice. This is
one of the people who, of course wants to get
more involved. I'm not even going to edit this for
my purposes. I'm going to read you what Lindsey Graham
wrote down, and you tell me if this seems like
a simple situation, we should definitely get involved. In quote
(09:00):
I appreciate the air strikes against ISIS targets in Syria,
but it will not be enough. We have to ensure
that roughly fifty thousand ISIS prisoners in northeastern Syria being
primarily held by Kurdish forces, are not released. We should
not allow the Kurdish forces who helped us destroy ISIS
on President Trump's watch to be threatened by Turkey or
(09:22):
radical Islamists who've taken over Syria. Turkey has legitimate concerns
regarding different groups that reside in northeastern Syria, but there
is conflict between Turkey and the Syrian Democrat forces. Or
Turkey attacks Kurdish forces, it will set in motion and
ISIS jail break, which will be a nightmare for America.
The last time ISIS was in charge, thousands of Europeans
(09:45):
and Americans were killed by ISIS plots that originated in Syria. Furthermore,
the reemergence of ISIS creates chaos throughout the region, which
is going to lead to higher gas prices for us
at home. Turkey deserves to have a demilitarized buffer zone
between northeastern Syria and Turkey to protect Turkis interest. However,
turk It takes military actions against Kurdish forces and steered
(10:07):
that of Oh my gosh, I could keep going. This
is one of the people telling us to get involved.
Are your eyes glazed over? Are they rolled in the
back of your head? Yet? Did you even make even
the slightest bit of sense there? Sounds complicated, doesn't It
sounds like there's a lot of history there, a lot
of people pulling different directions. Sounds like it should be
(10:28):
a big old mess. So what should we do about it? Well,
let's talk about that, and we'll talk about what we
are doing about it. Maybe Lindsay will chime in again.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
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Syrian government falls, Alisade falls. Now, who are these rebels? Well,
that's complicated and I'll get into more details with Brandon
Wickert in a moment. The rebels are nightmarish. Ali Sad
was nightmarish. He has had a fifty year rule where
(12:29):
he's used chemical weapons on his own people. It was
really really bad. He's a terrible person. But the people
who are taking over are terrible. They're kind of an
Al Qaeda Isis joint effort where those two groups have
previously hate each other. They are Sunni's soony extremists. Obviously
they're extremists and what they want is obviously not going
(12:53):
to be anything good, very very ugly. It's all bad.
It's all bad, everything, every part of it is ugly.
Joe Biden, don't worry though, yo. I mean, I've read
you the whole complicated involvement that Lindsey Graham wants to do. Now,
let me ask you, does this person look like he
can command and oversee such an effort?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We will help stability, resure stability in Eastern Respiria, protecting
any personnel are personnel against any threats and will remain
our mission against is supposed to be maintained, including a
security of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held
as prisoners.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, sure, sure, sure, I wanted to address that part.
You're going to hear a lot of that. Lindsey Graham
referenced fifty thousand ISIS prisoners. I've heard the numbers, thirty thousand,
it doesn't matter. Here's what you need to know. Kurds.
You're going to hear that word a lot. Kurdish forces, Kurds, Kurds, Curds.
(13:51):
Don't oversimplify anything when it comes to this. That's complicated too.
There are Kurds who have been very friendly with US
and US friendly with them, and we've been allies to us,
and they've been allied and we've been allied with them.
That's not universal for all Kurds. However, there are Kurdish
(14:12):
forces residing within Syria that have been doing this with
our help. We have about nine hundred US troops helping
them do this. Remember that whole Isis war, we had
those terrible freaking demons and isis or butchering babies and
rap and everyone and doing all the lovely things that
Isis does. Well, there were a lot of captive captives.
(14:33):
Why can't I talk today? A lot of prisoners of
war Isis people from that war? You with me? Well,
we took all these people in we'll call it fifty thousand.
They all have citizenship in one country or another, but
none of their countries will take them back. They're the
(14:53):
most evil, demonic people out there. And it's not only men, men,
women and even kids. And they are so radicalized, so
twisted their own countries won't even take them back as prisoners.
So what could you do? We live in a much softer,
kinder society. I know personally, how I would handle such
(15:15):
a problem. But since that's not the society we live
in now, we struck a deal, everyone really struck a
deal with the Kurdish forces to essentially guard these people
as prisoners, and the Kurds with us are currently guarding
these people in Syria. Now you can see how that
would be a problem for a couple different reasons. One Turkey,
(15:39):
the Turks hate the Kurds, so they're not exactly going
to help. Two who just took over Syria, As I said,
al Qaeda isis. Do you think they might be interested
in adding fifty thousand reinforcements to their number after they
(16:00):
just took over a country? You think they might be
invested in getting those prisoners out by any means necessary.
Of course they will, So it was just I wanted
to explain that portion of it for those who may
get confused when you hear people talking about the prisoners
they have. We have to mansure the prisoners. It's really
(16:22):
important that by any means necessary, those prisoners don't get
free again, because those are the most radicalized nutballs who
will go on to murder and rape and butcher like
they all did before. Back to our discussion, does this
person sound like he can navigate this situation.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
This past few days have been historic, and you know
the day's ahead and will determine the future of this country.
We intend to approach them with strength, wisdom a result.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, it's it's an ugly situation, but it's also a
domestic dispute. And I do realize, this is Jeffrey Sachs
on MSNBC. I realize we have to own a lot
of that situation there here. It is.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
This is a US mistake that started seven years ago.
And I remember the day on your show when President
Obama said Asad must go. And I looked at you
and Joe and I said, huh, how's he going to
do that? Where's the policy for that? And we know
(17:36):
they sent in the CIA to overthrow Asad. The CIA
and Saudi Arabia together in covert operations, tried to overthrow Asad.
It was a disaster. Eventually, it brought in both Isis
as a splinter group to the Jihadis that went in.
It also brought in Russia. So we have been digging
(17:58):
deeper and deeper in deeper. What we should do now
is get out.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Did I mention it's a domestic dispute we helped create.
But don't worry. We're gonna get involved now and fix
the mess we helped create. Yeah, so you want to
dig into more detail with it. You want to sound
smarter than all of your friends. That's why I'm bringing
Brandon Wikert on right about now, well about a few
minutes from now, before we get to Brandon Wikers. Maybe
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analyst Brandon Wikert, who actually picked an outstanding intro song.
Bravo to Brandon. Okay, Brandon, first of all, go ahead
and get this out of the way. First. You and
I know each other, so this won't be hard for you.
I want you to imagine that I have the mind
of a child. I don't know anything about Syria, and
it's so confusion with the forces and the Kurds in
(20:13):
al Qaeda, but Alsad is bad, and so knowing that
I don't know squat, please explain to me and take
your time. What is happening and why should I give
a crap?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Okay, So the bottom line is you should give a
crap because our intelligence services, along with Turks and I've
decided to give a bunch of money and a bunch
of guns to a guy named Mohammad Jilani who's the
head of a terrorist group called HTS, which is taken
over the country of Syria, whatever's left of it. And
(20:46):
Jilani was a member of Al Qaeda in Iraq. He
killed scores of our troops during the insurgency with IEDs
most likely, and he basically is like a comic book
villain that we're trying to now rehabilitate because we've nominated
him to be our guy to knock out the Russians
(21:07):
and the Iranians and Asad from Syria not realizing that
we're basically handing the country over to the next bin wive.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Okay, well, that all sounds pretty horrific. Let's pause on
that overview for a moment, and I want you to
tell me about Asad Brandon. Who is this guy? What's
his history? I understand he's not warm and cuddly either.
There aren't really aren't good guys here, But again, pretend
I'm a kid who is a sad where'd he come from?
(21:38):
Why are we against him? Why does Russia like him?
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, it goes back to his father, Hayfez assad Haiphez
was the real brutal maniac and he took over Syria
about fifty years ago. He was a secular dictator, was
very anti Islamist. He was a Baphist like Saddam was.
In fact, he's very close with Saddam. And the Russians
have had or had naval base and an air base
(22:05):
in Syria since the late nineteen seventies that even after
the fall of the Berlin Wall at the Soviet Union,
they maintained and so for them. For the Russians, well,
because it gives them power projection, It gives them the
ability to move forces in and out of the eastern
Mediterranean Sea. And the Russians historically have wanted that. They
wanted warm water ports. They've only got four of them,
(22:26):
so this is one of them and they just lost it.
So that's why they support Asad. Asad was a dictator
and he was a guy that used to brutalize his
own people. But particularly and this is not reporting the press,
he was especially hard on the Sunni Arab population. Jilani
is from this population. But the reason he was so
hard was because the Muslim Brotherhood, which is sort of
(22:49):
the mothership of Islamic terrorism, was operating in large numbers
among that population, so he would hyphez would kill them
all and then his son took over in two thousand.
After he died, Bashar Assad and Basher continued to be
horrible to his people, But ultimately Bashar al Assad was
(23:09):
not a Jihatis. In fact, he was an anti Jihadis,
and he could have been used by US to go
after the al Qaeda types in his midst Instead, we
pushed him out and handed the country basically over to
al Qaeda.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Okay, let's focus on the pushing out of Ala Sad.
How I know what just happened, But the genesis of
this why what was our particular acts to grind with him?
Was this economical? Was this Islamic terrorism? Was it his
association with Russia? With Russia, why did the geniuses in
DC decide this guy needed to go?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It had to do with his association with Russia and
the fact that Iran was partnered with him, And so
basically we were playing a game of risk. Basically, you know,
we just looked at the map and said, oh, we
want to get the Russians out of their warm water ports,
and one of them's in Syria. That's the weakest one,
and so we're gonna put pressure on a SOD to
get out of power so we can push out the
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Russians and by extension to the Iranians, which actually helps.
That helps the Israelis as well, because these Israelis are
getting supplies I'm sorry, Hesbela attacking Israel is backed by Iran,
and they're getting supplies through Syria. So if you get
rid of a SOD in Syria, those supplies won't make
it to Hesbela, and Israel will also be safer. The
only problem is, in order to do that, you've just
(24:26):
handed the country over to an actual jihadist who hates Israel,
who hates America, and it's going to turn on us
eventually with our own weapons.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, that all sounds really lovely. Now explain this to
me before we get to the bat well, the bad guys.
I realized they're all bad guys. Before we get to
the rebels who just took over completely. The rebels who
just took over. It's my understanding. Please correct me if
I'm wrong that this is kind of a collab between
out Qaeda and ISIS. Now, I do know enough to
(24:57):
know that those two are not exactly best. Why are
they collabing? How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, they're collabing because ultimately they're all Islamists and they
all want the same thing. They want the restoration of
the ancient Califate that collapse at the end of the
First World War when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. It's why
they've also aligned with the Turks, because the Turks are
giving them money and weapons and intelligence and even some
leadership on the battlefield in exchange for pushing Islam's flag forward,
(25:27):
creating a new Islamic state in Syria. These are things
that all of those groups want, and so that's why
suddenly these ISIS and al Qaeda types are working together.
They have a shared interest. They want territory in Syria
and they want a new base to go basically to
go ham on the rest of the region in the world.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Okay, now, Turkey, tell me about their interests. Why would
Turkey be supportive of a radical jihadist organization taking over
a country on its border that generally doesn't go well well.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So the Turks are at war with an ethnic group
in their country that also lives in northern Syria and
northern Iraq, called the Kurds. We have supported the Kurds
for decades. They're the largest stateless population in the world,
and so the Turks want to destroy them. They're threatened
(26:20):
by them. More importantly, Airdiwan, the president of Turkey, believes
he's the next sultan of a new Ottoman Empire, and
so he's doing this to go after the Kurds. But
also he's using Jihati groups because he thinks crazy. It's crazy.
He thinks he can control the Jihadis. Well. He doesn't
realize is that the Jihadas are going to turn on
(26:41):
him as soon as they get what they want in
Syria because they're not going to be wanting to be
led by an ethnic Turk anymore. They want to be
led by ethnic Persians from Iran. And so that's what's
going on with the Turkey element. He's trying to rebuild
the Ottoman Empire with himself and Turkey as the head
of it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Now you say Turkey has wanted to destroy the Curds.
He has Curds in his own country as Kurds in
northern Syria bordering his country. I got all that, But
Turkey has, unless I'm mistaken, they have the largest military
in Europe I believe. How have they not been able
to destroy the Curds with the largest military in Europe.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Well, because it's the same reason we haven't been able
to destroy Al Kaina or Isis with the largest military
in the world. These are very wily fighters. We're also
supporting the Curves. And also the Turks have been afraid
if they go totally, you know, genocidal against the Curds,
that the Americans and the Europeans will step in and
go against Turkey. And that's not something that Turkey really
(27:42):
wants to deal with. So there's that issue. But it's
hard to destroy. I mean, you were in the military,
you know this is very difficult to go after gorilla fighters.
They're just a very difficult kind of warfare. And Turkey
is a modern military force like ours, and modern military
forces have trouble rooting out these large, kind of asymmetrical
(28:04):
threats such as the Kurds.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, they certainly do, Brandon, I hate to ask I
should have asked you before him. But we haven't even
got to the rebels. Why Israel's amassing troops on the
Golden Heights, what the acts to grind is with Saudi Abia.
This is a long way of me asking you, do
you have another quick segment for me to go over,
just a couple of these things to make us smarter
as we can brag to our friends. Sure, sure, okay,
(28:27):
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But I want to get right back here. Joining me now.
National security guy getting us a lot smarter on what's
going on in Syria, my friend Brendan Wikert. All right, Brandon,
you already got us boned up on a sod and
what Turkey's acts to grind is. But israel I saw
(30:16):
today in response to all this is starting to take
the high ground of the goal and heights.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
For what reason, Well, because they know that first of all,
they just well, we just handed over Syria to an
Islamis that probably wants to annihilate the Israelis as much
as the Iranians and assad did. So it's not really
a win for them, and so they need to kind
of project power deeper into Syria before Jilani can solidify
(30:45):
his hold over the territory. Then, of course you've also
got the added issue of they're trying in Israel to
break those supply chains linking Iran with Hezbolah in neighboring Lebanon,
and so in order to ensure that those supply lines
are never restored and that Hesbola can't basically grow beyond
Lebanon into stateless Syria, they want to have a permanent
(31:07):
blocking position there. They're also talking, and I think this
is probably a bridge too far, but they're also talking
about aligning their interests with the Druze population in southwestern
Syria and then creating a quote quote freedom corridor connecting
southwest Syria controlled by Israel with US controlled Kurdish elements
(31:29):
in eastern Syria to try to create a Kurdish Druze
federation backed by US and Israeli forces to counteract the
obvious threat that this Jihatis controlled Theria will.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Be Okay, you said that's a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Why, well, the Israeli military is already stretched, it is gone.
It is incredible what they've been able to do a
very small military. It's incredible what they've been able to do,
going on against Gaza in the south, going after Hamas,
to contain Fatime the West Bank. At the same time
basically starting a major conflict between itself and Hesblah in
(32:07):
the north. This is a multi, multi front war and
now they're opening up another front in Syria. So this
is they're stretching themselves to their breaking point.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, again speaking with Brandon Weiker teaching us about this stuff. Now, Brandon, sorry,
you're gonna have to merge these worlds for me too.
Why would a pipeline continue to Hesbalah, which is obviously
a proxy of Iran when these are all Sheite groups
and you just got done telling us that it was
a soon a bunch of radicals that just took go
(32:40):
over Syria and soon He'es and she Heites don't exactly
get along.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
No, no, well, this is why Israel is setting up
a permanent shop there. It's to basically ensure that there's
no bleedover between say Hesbola looking for a new territory
to basically call its own in stateless Syria. So they're
trying to basically create like a wall of troops and
(33:05):
air power and artillery that will basically now that Hesbal
hasn't cut off from those supply chains from Iran, they're
now going to squeeze Lebanon from every direction.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Okay, you mentioned stateless Syria. That's one thing. As we've
seen many times in history, it's one thing to win
a war and take over a country. It's another thing
entirely to keep it in governance. I can't imagine a
joint Isis al Kaeda effort has a robust plan to
pave the roads and build schools, But what do we
know about how established these guys are going to be
(33:38):
anything yet.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
No, but if there's anything from history as a guide,
they will turn on each other and that will create
as many problems then as just a new Jihati controlled
Syria would cout for us. Either way you look at it,
it's going to be a new breeding ground for Islamic
militancy directed against the United States Israel and it's allies,
(34:00):
and I'm like, say, Afghanistan or even Iraq. Syria is
now in a long land border with Israel, which means
that Israel is really going to have to always be
on God.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Okay, now, explain to me what we want done with
the I've heard thirty thousand. I've heard it's fifty thousand.
There are a bunch of Isis prisoners the Kurds have.
Why haven't we just killed them?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Well, that's a question that I keep asking. I don't
understand why there's even this. I get because the argument
is that, oh, well there's some innocent people of political
prisoners and whatnot that are actually pro West. But ultimately
we are talking about basically opening up Arkham Asylum and
Batman and letting all the bad villains out. We should
(34:46):
just bomb those facilities before they can be opened up
and those bad guys can be released into the wild.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I agree. Okay, finally I'm going to let you go.
I swear after this one. Saudi Arabia, I'm told that
this new regime, I hope it doesn't turn out to
be a regime. The victorious rebels have a real axe
to grind with the House of Sad. What's their problem again,
they're all Sunnis.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Well no, but ultimately remember it's the same problem that
bin Laden had. They believe the House of Sod is apostate,
that they are too close to the Americans and the
Jews and the Europeans the Christians to be of any
help to the gram Gihad. So they want to overthrow
that in order to ensure that Saudi Arabia, the land
(35:34):
of Mecca and Medina where Mohammad is from, will be
pure Islam and they can basically create the truly pan
Islamic Caliate based there, as opposed to justin Syria or Afghanistan.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I assume the Christian population of Syria's in some serious
trouble now, and I don't assume there are any Jews
left in that country.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Correct, I would say both is very true.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yes, okay, that's what I thought. Brendon Weiker, thank you
so much, my brother.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Thats there.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I have so much more knowledge now, and I already
had this gargantuan amount of what Chris. I had this
huge amount of knowledge, maybe the most knowledgeable person ever,
And now that I just got all this information from Brandon. Now,
I'm a super genius. Look but now look that was
two segments. A little complicated, isn't it. There's a bit
(36:26):
going on, right. It took two segments just to hash out, Okay,
what's the new regime, what's Turkey's involvement, what's Israel doing?
Why are they doing it? Iran's involved here, you have
Hezbollah involved here, you have Saudi Arabia involved here. And
this is why I mean you hear things like this,
and what.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The new constitution, new governess serves all series. This process
to be determined by the Syrian people themselves. In the
United States will do whatever we can to support them,
including through rumaniitarian relief, help restore Shiria after more than
a decade of war.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
A new constitution that'll be determined by the Syrian people.
The country was just taken taken over by by al Qaeda,
Isis inc. They're not interested in an American drafted constitution.
So why do we do this do it all the time. Well,
(37:25):
there's a lot of reasons for it. Money, power, stuff
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