December 4, 2024 • 37 mins
The negative momentum behind Pete Hegseth and what Senator is responsible. Lindsy Graham is torpedoing Trump’s picks and Trump gives him political cover. Josh Hammer rips apart the oral arguments of the liberal supreme court justices in this child mutilation case. What is The System going to do with Kash Patel coming in. Who are the supreme court justices likely to retire?
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's Humpday.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You have done it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The week is almost over, well kind of, it's like
more than halfway over. I guess that's the essence of
hump Day. And we have some things we must discuss.
We have to discuss the negative momentum of the Pete
hag Seth nomination and who is responsible for it. There
was someone I blame and we are going to have
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a hard discussion about that. In just a couple moments,
Cash Patel was allegedly hacked by the Iranians. I'll tell
you why I don't believe that and who I believe
actually did it. The United Healthcare CEO was assassinated on
the streets of New York City this morning, and that's
kind of a big deal. What's going on with Eric
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Adams sounding like a Republican coffee's getting expensive? The system
is already trying to protect those saintly illegals from being deported.
All that email's amazing voicemails. Some people were mad, some
people were happy. It's great. Ah that and so much
more coming up tonight. On the world famous Jesse Kelly Show.
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Now I'm going to begin here, tell you a little
story about me. This is going to come back to
Lindsey Graham. I'll just go ahead and give away the game.
It's going to come back to Lindsey Graham, Pete hag
Seth and what's currently happening in the Senate. But his
little story about me. You remember the story of me
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signing up to go to the Marines. Right in case
you don't, or maybe you're just now joining us. I
had finished high school. I did what a lot of
kids do. I went to college. And everyone has to
go to college. That's that stupid thing that people still
say to themselves and their children. And so I went
to college. Very clearly I was not mature enough to
handle college. I had a great time, but got a
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zero point zero grade point average my first semester. I
did a little better my second semester, but at the
end of it, I knew I had some growing up
to do. So, unbeknownst to my parents or anyone else,
I walked right down to the Marine Corps recruiting office.
It was in the local mall in Bozeman, Montana. It
may still be. I don't know. I haven't been back,
but I walked right into the recruiting office, signed up
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and said, I'm want to be a Marine. I want
to I'm want to learn how to be more responsible,
a better person. See if I'm tough enough, sign me
up join the Marines. They said, okay, okay, okay. But
I was on what's called the delayed entry program, meaning
you walk in, you sign up, but you don't leave
right away. There was months and months. I think there
was six months, but don't quote me on that, but
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I think there was six months or so before I
left for actual boot camp. I'm signed up four years.
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
During this six months, the recruiter did his job. I
had a wonderful recruiter. I don't have any complaints about mine.
Granted I was the easiest sale in the world, but
he did his job, and he gave me a very
specific workout program I should begin to prepare myself for
the Riggers of Marine Corps boot camp. That didn't interest
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me at all. Now, the good news is I was
an active kid, and as bad as I was at sports, basketball, baseball,
you know, just playing playing tackle football with your with
your friends, in the backyard. I was active, but I
didn't want to do some workout plan. No, I don't
want to do this now, I doesn't know. I'm not
doing that. I'm going to live it up from my
last six months. And then I went off to Marine
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Corps boot camp. Having lived it up to the max
for the last six months, put a nice little bow
on my time as a civilian, and by attending a Metallica,
Kid Rock and Corn concert in Denver, Yeah so, really
had me a good time. And then I got to
boot camp, and for a few weeks I suffered greatly.
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I suffered because I ignored the work, the non sexy
work that had to get done to prepare me for
boot camp. It made boot camp worse for me for
a little while. Again, I was active enough that I
got through it okay, and it was fine. But boy,
I'll tell you what it hurt for a little while.
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You want to have an uncomfortable conversation. You'll probably email
and yell at me. Maybe you'll leave me a voicemail
which I don't give a crap about. That's fine, let's
have an uncomfortable conversation. Pete hag Seth right now is
fighting for his political life on Capitol Hill. As you're
listening to the sound of my voice, Trump's nominee to
be Secretary Defense, Pete hagg Seth, is knocking on every
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senator's door in the GOP, sitting them down, trying to
convince them all these commie smears against them are lies,
trying to get them to vote yes on his confirmation.
And yesterday we talked about it. Yesterday. Yesterday somebody did
something publicly that created negative momentum for Pete Hegseth. And
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I don't know that in the end he will be
able to overcome it. I hope he will, and I
think there's a chance at it. I'm not telling you
petex Seth's going down, but what Senator Lindsey Graham did
yesterday was devastating. And here's what he did. I read
the comments. I'm just gonna I'm not even gonna go
back and read them verbatim. But Lindsey Graham publicly said,
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I'm kind of uncomfortable with some of these allegations. I
don't know, I really need to. I guess I'll sit
down and tell him, but yeah, some of this stuff
looks bad, said that publicly one keep in mind, Lindsey
Graham is a politician, a very seasoned politician. Lindsey Graham
doesn't scratch his nose, wipe his butt, or sweep up
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the floor unless he does so intentionally. Lindsey Graham, when
he speaks, understands the ripples it will cause. And Lindsey
Graham saying that publicly was a purposeful thing. This is
not a human being who speaks off the cuff. Willy nilly.
He said that publicly. Pete hegseeth has negative momentum right
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now because Lindsey Graham is creating it publicly. He is
helping the New York Times, helping all these evil people
destroy Trump's nominee for Secretary of Defense. Okay, that's bad.
I hate Lindsey Graham. You hate Lindsey Graham. I got it.
We need to defeat Lindsay Graham in a primary. I
got it. He's a member of the deep state. I
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got it. You got it. We understand and all that.
Here's my issue. Donald Trump has consistently and repeatedly given
political cover to Lindsey Graham in his state of South Carolina.
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You see how Lindsey Graham repays him. Of course, that
traitorous piece of crap comes out and tries to torpedo
Trump's Secretary of Defense nominee, not announce a loyalty or
honor in him. But this is the danger of not
doing the workout program for boot camp. This is the
danger of not doing the little unsexy things as a
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political candidate to get yourself ready. Lindsey Graham constantly gets
invited to Donald Trump's rallies, where the people are there
for Trump, they cheer for Trump, they want to be
around Trump, and time after time after time after time,
Lindsey is booed mercilessly at these rallies.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Gentlemen, please welcome United States Senator Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
The booing gets so bad reporters have to report on us.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I think one of the most noteworthy things that we
witness was the booing of Lindsey Graham. The crowd booed
him when he arrived, they boot him when he left,
and at no point did they really cheer for him.
I think that was probably a pretty painful thing for
Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So how does Lindsey Graham keep getting elected? Who keeps
giving political cover to Lindsey Graham? The gopeer who appears
to be torpedoing Trump's sec deaf nominee. Who is this
person protecting Lindsey Graham at every single turn? His name
is Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I call up Lindsey Graham and he straightens it out
so fair, and I'll tell you no, no, no no,
Remember remember I love him. He's a good man. Come
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up here, Lindsey, Come up here, lindsay.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is not a rant to savage Donald Trump for
saving Lindsey Graham's political career and protecting him. This is
a lesson that I can learn. You can learn, Trump
can learn. Everyone can learn. The little things that aren't
sexy are oftentimes the biggest things that matter in life.
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When you're giving a workout program before you go to
boot camp, you don't spend your time swinging from the
rafters in Denver at a concert. You go out, you
put in the work, you do the runs, you do,
the pull ups. You'd make sure you're ready for boot camp.
When you want to be president the United States of America,
you cannot constantly endorse and support the people who are
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nice to you and who flatter you, but who will
not support your agenda in the end. Lindsey Graham is
a traitor. Donald Trump has saved him and protected him.
And what Lindsey Graham did yesterday was potentially begin the
negative tide that brings down Pete Hegseeth. And if Pete
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hag Seth goes down with Lindsey Graham spearheading it, which
seems like an appropriate way to describe Lindsey Graham, then
the truth is Donald Trump is going to own some
of the blame for that. This is why we have
to get involved in the little things too, the unsexy things.
They oftentimes matter a lot. We'll finish this up and
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move on to some other things. Before we do that,
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that we weren't giving them nutrition. We were giving them
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You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. You're welcome. It
is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Few little
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and voicemails Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. You have
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seven seven three seven seven four three seven three. Josh
Hammer is coming up about ten minutes from now. There
was a big Supreme Court hearing today about child tranny stuff.
Child mutilation is essentially what it is, and we'll get
into that with Josh. What he thinks the results are
going to be. There's a lot to get into it
with Josh. Next hour, Natalie Winters is going to join
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us in handicap Pete hegsas nomination. There's just so much
to get to, but more important than all those things,
the emails and the guests and whatnot. Before we got
back to politics, I wanted to tell you an important
personal update, just like to try to keep you. I
don't know why I tell you everything, but I like
to tell you when when big things happen in my life,
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disastrous things, great things and whatnot. It's been a challenging season,
no doubt, for obvious reasons. But I got my new pen.
Don't shake your head, Chris. I got a new pen.
And it's amazing, absolutely amazing. It is not only olive drab. Look, Chris,
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the reason, maybe maybe the reason you're shaking your head
scornfully at my pen. Maybe you can't see it because
it blends in so well. See, it's like it's basically
invisible now. But it's an olive drab pen. It's the
perfect weight, you know, it's not too heavy, it's not
too light. It when I write, I feel like John Hancock.
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It just flows, what Chris, It just flows across the
paper and you hear that, you hear that it clicks too.
What Chris what Hancock's signature was legible, but mine's not.
Chris Hancock's signature was distinctive. That's what mattered. It was distinctive.
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My signature is distinctive. Everybody who got a book that
you can still purchase at Jesse kellybook dot com. Everybody
who got a book autographed knows that's a distinctive signature
that belongs to only me. You're jealous because your signature
is not distinctive. It looks like everybody else's. But people
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can look at John Hancock and me and they say, Wow,
those guys really have the signature thing down. Pat And
now with this new pen, I think I may go
home and sign autographs just I don't have anyone specifically
I'm gonna sign autographs for, but I do have these
business cards, and all they have on them is my
name and my face. The back of the business card
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is just my face. I think tonight I'll go sign
a bunch of those because one of my favorite things
is when I go to a conference or something like that,
I hand them out to people who don't even ask.
I just hand them an autograph just to give value
for others. It is the season of giving, after all.
So pretty excited about the pen. I'm going to try
not to bring it up a lot, you know. I
don't want to brag about nice things I have. But
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it's just it's beautiful. Back to what we were saying,
Lindsey Graham's trash has been trash, and I am starting
to get concerned about Pete Hegseth getting through. And we really,
really really have to have massive reform in our military.
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It has to happen. If we don't get it, we're
in deep trouble. And look, this is the mentality. We
need a wonderful.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Process to go through and meet with senators and talk
to them, especially members of the Senate Armed Services Committee,
whose passion is the Defense Department and ourr fighters, to
hear what they want to do, to make sure that
department is properly oriented for the threats of the world
and make sure that we're putting a war fighters first.
That's what Donald Trump asked me to do. Your job
is to bring a war fighting ethos back to the Pentagon.
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Your job is to make sure.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That it's lethality.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Lethality lethality, everything else is gone. Everything else that distracts
from that shouldn't be happening. That's the message I'm hearing
from senators in that advising consent process. And it's been
a wonderful process.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And you and I have a role in this. You know,
I want to give Trump credit for yanking that Chad Cronister,
that share of Chad Cronister, that loser in Florida who
was arresting pastors during COVID. Trump put him up to
be the DEA head and then Trump just yanked it.
The guy doesn't get his dream job. Why did Trump
yank it? Why did that get pulled away? Because of you?
(16:51):
Because public outcry now gets heard by people in power,
because of the power of social media, because people in
their senator email into their senator. We can cost bad
guys their job, and we did with Chad Cronister. The
exact same thing needs to happen with you and me
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when it comes to Pete Hegseth. It is critically important
not only for our military that we get Pete in there,
it's critically important that we do not allow the Communists
to once again use these vicious smear campaign tactics to
stop anybody who threatens their deeply entrenched bureaucracy, because that's
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what all this is about. And once they get Pete, Look,
they already got Gates. It already worked on Gates. They
didn't get the Senate approval. Gates had to back off
if they get Pete. Whether or not they get Pete,
they're gonna move right on to the next one, Cash Betel.
And I'm gonna tell you what they're gonna do to Cash.
They're already beginning in about a half hour from now.
We're gonna go into that. If we allow them to
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keep taking scalps, they're gonna keep taking scalps. And you
have power here. Maybe you don't think you do, Jesse.
I'm just a housewife. Jesse, I'm just a lawyer or
an account and I'm just a kid. No no, no,
no no no. You have an email, you have social media.
Probably speak up and speak out and tell your senators
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and other senators who even aren't yours that you expect
them to stand up to communists smear tactics. We must
hold strong here, and you have a role to play.
So dig In takes two minutes to send an email
a little bit longer if you're me, But that's because
the buttons are small on my phone. Maybe instead, maybe
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Josh Hammer the Hebrew Hammer. Next Jesse Kelly returns. Next
it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. I
can't tell you how much it makes me snicker every
time that Josh Josh Hammer uses that song by MC
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hammer and he even picks the specific part that it's
Hammer this and Hammer that. Gosh, I'm insanely jealous. Joining
me now, my friend host of America on Trial, which
I'm sure you're already listening to Josh Hammer. Okay, Josh,
I haven't touched on it at all yet. What happened
today with the Supreme Court, So let's begin there before
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we get on to other things. There was a big
hearing today. There was about a bunch of child tranny madness.
The floor is yours, Hammer, go ahead, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
First of all, my brother, not all of us can
have the last name Hammer. Sometimes we have to just
make that make the best we have with a with
a generic lass name. Mike Kelly. So I'm sure that
you're coping okay over there, and my condolence to you
that you're not a hammer. But in any event, there
was a big argument today. This is this is literally
the number one biggest argument in the Supreme Court term.
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I think actually this case US versus Scremetti comes out
of the Great States of Tennessee. Tennessee passed the law
Senant Bill one, which basically says that you are not
allowed to use puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, or any
of that crap when it comes to kitty chemical castration,
genital mutilation, basically what the libs insufferably refer to as
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quote unquote gender affirming care. You're not allowed to do
this when it comes to minors under the age of eighteen.
And ludicrously, the actual plaintiff, the one doing on behalf
of the transgender people in Tennessee. It's actually the United
States government. It's literally the Biden DOJ Merrick Garland and
their solicit General, Liz Preligar, who swooped in. That's why
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this case was styled US Iscremtti. So that's how my
first observation, Jesse is that because this has come in
from the Department of Justice, the Trump DOJ can try
to end this when they get into power. It's going
to be a fight over whether or not it's actually
withdrawn because they will have already heard oral argument. But
basically let the justice sort that out. At a bare minimum,
you have to try to remove the case. So that's
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a necessary order for the Trump DJ on January twentieth.
As far as how the actual oral argument went, I'm
pretty tough that that Tennessee is going to win. I
would be shocked, like truly shocked, if Tennessee were to
lose this case, and if they were to find that
this very logical, common sense law is actually not allowed
by the Fourteenth Amendment, which is their truly absurd, constant
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arguments that they are making. They literally are saying that
the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not
allow Tennessee to protect vulnerable children from the predations of
big pharma and gender ideology and all that there. But
if I'm just looking at how the oral argument actually went,
it seems like Chief Justice John Roberts he's won of
the swing votes. Of course, seems like he's on Tennessee's side.
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I think that the other right of ten of Justices,
namely Emmy Coney, Barrett, Brett Havanaugh, and Neil Gorsich. I
think they're all going to end up on the correct
side as well. Gorstach is a bit of a question
mark because he was eerily silent at oral arguments, and
he did give us the whopper of the case known
as Bostock in twenty twenty, which was a pro transgender
case that was a big surprise from Gorsach being a
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Trump nominee. But I do think the Tennessee is going
to prevail here. And you know, Jesse, I guess the
final thing I'll say is that part of what we saw,
this oral argument, it really just accentuates and underscores to
me why the Democrats in the left are just in
such a terrible state in this country. The Democrats just
got crushed in a presidential election. They lost all seven
major swing states. And the reason why they lost because
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you idiots have Supreme Court justices like Patanji Brown Jackson,
the dimwitted Biden nominee who literally Jesse earlier today was
asking whether or not Tennessee's ban on kitty chemical castration
is in any way similar or analogous to the bans
on interracial marriage that existed before the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, at let me pause you there, Josh, because I
actually have that audio, so everyone can hear exactly what
you're talking about. This is what happens when you DEI
hire someone on the scolle.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
The question was whether it was discriminatory because it applied
to both races and it wasn't necessarily invidious or whatever.
But you know, as I read the statute here, excuse
me the case here. You know, the court starts off
by saying that Virginia is now one of sixteen states
which prohibit and punished marriages on the basis of racial classifications.
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And when you look at the.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Structure of that law, it looks.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
In terms of incontinuing you can't do something that is
inconsistent with your own characteristics. It's sort of the same thing.
So it's interesting to me that we now have this
different argument. And I wonder whether Virginia could have gotten
away with what they did here by just making a
classification argument the way that Tennessee is in this case.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, Josh, we need to now ask a question we
have to ask often on the show. In fact, I
should put something on soundboard. Is she stupid or just evil?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I think she's not a smart individual. I mean, I
actually think that Sonya said to my own Katanji Brown
Jackson are just dumb. Now, I don't say that all
liberals are. Melena Kagan. I disagree with her a lot,
but she's definitely not dumb. She's actually a very good writer.
But Katanji Brown Jackson Jesse, I don't think she's offerating
at a particularly high IQ level, at least relative to
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her other's preme cort justices. I mean, she actually made
a glaring, glaring error in her egregious descent in the
affirmative action case. This is the case about a year
and a half ago a Students for Fair Emission versus
Harvard and UNC Chapel Hill. And this is the case
that basically got rid of affirmative action in university and
missions programs there, and Katanji Brown Jackson had just this
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disgusting descent basically saying that the Constitution doesn't just doesn't
ban racism, but actually requires racism if that racism favors
you know, Blacks, Hispanics and so forth, while discriminating against
Whites and Jews and Asians and whatnot. There And she
actually made a glaring error here where she just got
a very simple citation wrong. She gave the wrong numbers
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and a footnote and then she very embarrassingly had to
go back after the case was already published and basically
do a mea culpa, like a mybad, I actually got
the data wrong. That is seriously embarrassing. Not something that
you see every day. As a former federal lawbooker, I
can tell you that's a serious bopa. But to your point, Jesse,
this is what happens when you select the US Supreme
Court justice, not based how good of a lawyer you are,
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or your worldview or your approach to constitutional interpretation. This
is what happens when you do, as Joe Biden did
in twenty twenty two, you pick a justice specifically because
she is a black woman, not within the fact that
black women comprise two percent of the national lawyer pool.
They're literally two percent. But when you get apparently, when
you limit your search to a tiny portion of the
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lawyer of profession demographic, I guess this is what you get.
Or it's just awful, it's so dumb.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Hey, Josh, I want you to listen to something here.
I don't know if this is coming through at all.
Do you hear that clicking? That is a brand new
pen that I bought, and it writes so well, and
it's got the perfect weight, and it has the little
click thing on there. Do you have any kind of
pens that you're particularly proud of, because this one is
top notch, my friend.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Top notch, you know, Jesse. I have to tell you,
I've actually been remarkably consistent on this since I kid
you not, I was probably nine or ten years old.
I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan of It's
not a clickpen. It's like the roller pen. It's the pilot.
It's a pilot, precise rolling ballpen. I have a bunch
of my desk right now, beautiful blue ink. I'm a
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huge fan of this pen, Jesse. But I have to
tell you, man, I don't want to use pens very
often anymore. Do you find yourself writing a lot?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, no, Josh, But now I think I will now
that I have a high end pen. When you buy
a Lamborghini, you take it for a drive. When you
have a pen like I, do you do a lot
of writing. I'm a pen A letter tonight I might
write a letter to you, you never know.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I would very much look forward to that, my friends.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I would welcome that correspond Josh. Before I get off
here and pen my letter, I need to ask you
if you will wait for maybe do you have another
five ten minutes? Because I didn't even get to Cash
Paatel and this kind of stuff, and I have other
things I want to get to with you. I should
have asked you beforehand. Can you wait?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, we will wait. I am going to get off
here and begin penning my letter, dearest Josh. After I
get back, we'll get to Cash, Betel and stuff. Hang on,
it is the Jesse Kelly Show back with Josh Hammer,
host of America on Trial. Just got us boned up
on what happened with the Supreme Court today. Now I
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really want to shift gears and start talking some deep
state Cash Patel stuff. Okay, Josh, we found out last
night that he was targeted by the Iranians. I don't
believe that, but even still, there's a lot of opposition
to Cash Patel. Tell us about this person, you know it?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah? I do you know Cashtel a little bit. We actually,
at one point guests co hosted Steve Bannon's warm while
Steve was tragically in the Danbury, Connecticut jail. There for
a few months, so cash Mittel quite literally wrote the
book on the Russia collusion delusion. I mean, he has
been the epicenter investigations into Crossfire, Hurricane, and the fact
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that the FBI was used into a partisan tool of
the Hillary Clinton campaign to literally spy on Carter Page
and George Papadopolis, and how there were people like Lisa
Paige and Peter Struck there inside the FBI who were
talking about using the FBI as a quote fail safe.
Cash Mittel has been on top for a very long time.
He's someone who has who has previously worked in national
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security circles and in intelligence community positions for the Trump administration.
Who's actually someone who even has bipartisan bona fides. He
actually was a prosecutor for the DOJ going back to
the Obama administration actually there. So even though he is
definitely a a strong, high powered Trump loyalist, I mean,
the guy even has bipartisan bona fite is frankly there.
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The reason Jesse that liberals are up in arms over
this one is because Cash Battel is the kind of
guy who will go in there and will actually turn
the FBI upside down. Now, if you are me Josh
Hammer or if you are you Jesse Kelly, you probably
hear that and you're like, oh my god, like, let's
freaking that sounds awesome. But if you know, if you're
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a company man, if you're the kind of guy who
works in the deep state, if you're the kind of
guy who works in the bureaucracy, if you know your
bread is buttered, so to speak, when it comes to
the military industrial complex and all that, then you're necessarily
going to be opposed to cash Betel because he is
a disruptive force. But the FBI is the belly of
the belly of the beast. I mean, it is the
epicenter of all epicenters, Like when we speak of the
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deep state. To me, the FBI is literally the agency
that comes to zactly to mind going back again to
cross by our hurricane. But also the way that the
FBI acted when it came to the twenty twenty election
with the Hunter Biden laptop and the Gretchen Whitmer fake
kidnapping plot. To January sixth, twenty twenty one, the FBI's
public perception is at an all time low water and polling,
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and that's because that they have just repeatedly proclowned themselves
over and over and over again. So we actually really
do need to turn this thing up down. And I
guess the final thing that I'll say about cash Totel,
you know, Jesse, One of my favorite quotes is from
a guy named hl Mankin. He was a well known
newspaper columnist, maybe about one hundred years ago, early twentieth
century guy, and he said here, I'm paraphrasing, but he
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said that democracy is the theory that the average man
knows what he wants and then when he votes for it,
he deserves to get it good and hard, and translated
took to our modern times here after the twenty twenty
four election, the average person wants maga. They want to
clean the swamp. And if you want to drain the
swamp there the cash totel.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Is your gun, Josh? How deep is it? And I
say that because I'm I'm well aware that the deep stage,
the system, whatever you want to call it, it is
going to work very hard to protect itself. And I
know we have these reformers coming, Lord Willing if they
can get through confirmation, But how much good can they do?
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Can they drain it? Can they drain most of it,
a little of it. What is realistic? I don't want
to get my hopes up or the hopes up of
anybody listing right now. What's realistic?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Well, I don't want to fall together anyone's hopes up either.
To be honest with you, Look, Jessie, this was one
of the problems with the trumpdministration the first time around,
is that he generally was not successful at doing this.
I mean, this is kind of his whole twenty sixteen
message as well. And to be clear, a lot of
his promises twenty exteen were absolutely kept. I'm not trying
to take anything away from the man, but when it
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comes to the bread and butter work of gutting the
federal bureocracy of subversive malcontents, you know, he generally was
less than fully successful. You know. This is one of
the reasons why, unlike many other lawyers, why I was
very sympathetic to the MATC. Gates training general picks. You know,
I mean, would I have picked Matt Gay's probably not,
probably not the exact guy with a picks. But if
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you're trying to actually get rid of the rocks in
the DOJ, which and is the belly of the beast
here at the FBI is part of the DJ, then
that's the kind of guy that you want in there.
So from that perspective, Cash Bettel is hopefully the kind
of guy that actually can get in there, and frankly,
just his mere presence will probably cause a lot of
low level agents to just immediately resign there, while hopefully
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encouraging new young recruits who actually have a pro America
patriotic worldview to get them to go out and come
join the FRAY and join the FBI's that's what you
hope for, certainly in a situation like this, but it's
really going to have to come largely from Donald Trump himself.
There's only so much that people like Cash Bettel, Pam
bond yea DJ, these others can do. The President really
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does set the tone, and it's bread and butter constitutional
law that the President of the United States, because he
has the quote unquote executive power under Article to the Constitution,
he has the ability to make any hiring or firing
decision he wants, period, full stop, end of story. There
are some Supreme Court cases from seventy eighty ninety years
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ago that purports to limit his authority to do that.
Those cases are wrong, we decided, and given the court's
current composition, those cases would be overturned. So Donald Trump
really needs to go in there, and he really should
set the tone right away, and I'm hopeful that he
will do that. But like you, my expectations are somewhat
mixed out with.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
This, Josh, I've only got a couple minutes left here.
Is Donald Trump going to be able? I realized I'm
asking you to predict retirements and things like that, so
I get that ahead of time. Is he going to
be able to replace any of these Supreme Court justices
either ones of ours that are aging out? You know
that Clarence Thomas is the alitos or Lord Willing. Obviously
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in the perfect world, he's replacing theirs, so we can
have even more of an unbalanced on the court in
our favor.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Well, that is an ideal situation, obviously, and that's what
happened to to Grufbater Ginsberg when she pass the way
and the Namy Cony Barrett joined the court there in
twenty twenty. So you never know what could happen like that.
I mean, someone could get a heart attack, someone that
have a family medical emergency. You just never know there.
As far as the right of center justice, who are
most likely to retire, I do think that Sam Alito
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is more likely than not to retire, either this year
or the year after that, probably before the twenty twenty
six mid terms. Given the fifty three forty seven edge
that Republicans had in the US Senate. It makes sense
that you would want to retire when you are assured
that the President and Senate can get you an ideologically
like minded successor there. So I create that Alito is
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more likely than not to resign. Clarence Thomas is a
genuine toss up. I do not know one way or
the other. If I truly, truly, truly had to make
a guess, I would predict that, yes, he is more
likely than not to resign over the next two years there,
But I could truly see him going either way. Clarence Thomas,
of course, yesse is, in my opinion, the nation's single
greatest living American. So who the heck am I to
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tell him that he should retire. He can do whatever
the head he darn wants to do. But I do
think that there was a very real chance for one
or possibly even two retirements, probably even before the twenty
twenty sixth midterms.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Actually, gosh, I love Clarence Thomas. I bet he has
a sweet pen. He is Josh Hammer, host of America
on Trial. Thank you, my friend, as always, that was awesome, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I look forward to that letter.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Look, it's more than just being able to click your
pan right. It's more than just having that smooth as
silk writing. Honestly, I'm writing right now and you can't
even tell, as I'm talking to you on the air,
I'm also writing. This kind of pen allows you to
do both because it's just silky smooth. It's more than
that though. It's the weight. It can't be too light
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it feels cheap. It can't be too heavy. I'm not
bodybuilding here. I'm writing things down. When you have a
pen that's perfectly balanced, it's just it puts you in
a whole different category. And that's what I have and
Chris doesn't. And you should see. You should see how
jealousy is. Now they're saying the Iranians hacked cash Patel. Okay,
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let's discuss what's really happening here next
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's Humpday.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You have done it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The week is almost over, well kind of, it's like
more than halfway over. I guess that's the essence of
hump Day. And we have some things we must discuss.
We have to discuss the negative momentum of the Pete
hag Seth nomination and who is responsible for it. There
was someone I blame and we are going to have
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a hard discussion about that. In just a couple moments,
Cash Patel was allegedly hacked by the Iranians. I'll tell
you why I don't believe that and who I believe
actually did it. The United Healthcare CEO was assassinated on
the streets of New York City this morning, and that's
kind of a big deal. What's going on with Eric
(01:08):
Adams sounding like a Republican coffee's getting expensive? The system
is already trying to protect those saintly illegals from being deported.
All that email's amazing voicemails. Some people were mad, some
people were happy. It's great. Ah that and so much
more coming up tonight. On the world famous Jesse Kelly Show.
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Now I'm going to begin here, tell you a little
story about me. This is going to come back to
Lindsey Graham. I'll just go ahead and give away the game.
It's going to come back to Lindsey Graham, Pete hag
Seth and what's currently happening in the Senate. But his
little story about me. You remember the story of me
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signing up to go to the Marines. Right in case
you don't, or maybe you're just now joining us. I
had finished high school. I did what a lot of
kids do. I went to college. And everyone has to
go to college. That's that stupid thing that people still
say to themselves and their children. And so I went
to college. Very clearly I was not mature enough to
handle college. I had a great time, but got a
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zero point zero grade point average my first semester. I
did a little better my second semester, but at the
end of it, I knew I had some growing up
to do. So, unbeknownst to my parents or anyone else,
I walked right down to the Marine Corps recruiting office.
It was in the local mall in Bozeman, Montana. It
may still be. I don't know. I haven't been back,
but I walked right into the recruiting office, signed up
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and said, I'm want to be a Marine. I want
to I'm want to learn how to be more responsible,
a better person. See if I'm tough enough, sign me
up join the Marines. They said, okay, okay, okay. But
I was on what's called the delayed entry program, meaning
you walk in, you sign up, but you don't leave
right away. There was months and months. I think there
was six months, but don't quote me on that, but
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I think there was six months or so before I
left for actual boot camp. I'm signed up four years.
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
During this six months, the recruiter did his job. I
had a wonderful recruiter. I don't have any complaints about mine.
Granted I was the easiest sale in the world, but
he did his job, and he gave me a very
specific workout program I should begin to prepare myself for
the Riggers of Marine Corps boot camp. That didn't interest
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me at all. Now, the good news is I was
an active kid, and as bad as I was at sports, basketball, baseball,
you know, just playing playing tackle football with your with
your friends, in the backyard. I was active, but I
didn't want to do some workout plan. No, I don't
want to do this now, I doesn't know. I'm not
doing that. I'm going to live it up from my
last six months. And then I went off to Marine
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Corps boot camp. Having lived it up to the max
for the last six months, put a nice little bow
on my time as a civilian, and by attending a Metallica,
Kid Rock and Corn concert in Denver, Yeah so, really
had me a good time. And then I got to
boot camp, and for a few weeks I suffered greatly.
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I suffered because I ignored the work, the non sexy
work that had to get done to prepare me for
boot camp. It made boot camp worse for me for
a little while. Again, I was active enough that I
got through it okay, and it was fine. But boy,
I'll tell you what it hurt for a little while.
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You want to have an uncomfortable conversation. You'll probably email
and yell at me. Maybe you'll leave me a voicemail
which I don't give a crap about. That's fine, let's
have an uncomfortable conversation. Pete hag Seth right now is
fighting for his political life on Capitol Hill. As you're
listening to the sound of my voice, Trump's nominee to
be Secretary Defense, Pete hagg Seth, is knocking on every
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senator's door in the GOP, sitting them down, trying to
convince them all these commie smears against them are lies,
trying to get them to vote yes on his confirmation.
And yesterday we talked about it. Yesterday. Yesterday somebody did
something publicly that created negative momentum for Pete Hegseth. And
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I don't know that in the end he will be
able to overcome it. I hope he will, and I
think there's a chance at it. I'm not telling you
petex Seth's going down, but what Senator Lindsey Graham did
yesterday was devastating. And here's what he did. I read
the comments. I'm just gonna I'm not even gonna go
back and read them verbatim. But Lindsey Graham publicly said,
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I'm kind of uncomfortable with some of these allegations. I
don't know, I really need to. I guess I'll sit
down and tell him, but yeah, some of this stuff
looks bad, said that publicly one keep in mind, Lindsey
Graham is a politician, a very seasoned politician. Lindsey Graham
doesn't scratch his nose, wipe his butt, or sweep up
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the floor unless he does so intentionally. Lindsey Graham, when
he speaks, understands the ripples it will cause. And Lindsey
Graham saying that publicly was a purposeful thing. This is
not a human being who speaks off the cuff. Willy nilly.
He said that publicly. Pete hegseeth has negative momentum right
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now because Lindsey Graham is creating it publicly. He is
helping the New York Times, helping all these evil people
destroy Trump's nominee for Secretary of Defense. Okay, that's bad.
I hate Lindsey Graham. You hate Lindsey Graham. I got it.
We need to defeat Lindsay Graham in a primary. I
got it. He's a member of the deep state. I
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got it. You got it. We understand and all that.
Here's my issue. Donald Trump has consistently and repeatedly given
political cover to Lindsey Graham in his state of South Carolina.
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You see how Lindsey Graham repays him. Of course, that
traitorous piece of crap comes out and tries to torpedo
Trump's Secretary of Defense nominee, not announce a loyalty or
honor in him. But this is the danger of not
doing the workout program for boot camp. This is the
danger of not doing the little unsexy things as a
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political candidate to get yourself ready. Lindsey Graham constantly gets
invited to Donald Trump's rallies, where the people are there
for Trump, they cheer for Trump, they want to be
around Trump, and time after time after time after time,
Lindsey is booed mercilessly at these rallies.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Gentlemen, please welcome United States Senator Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
The booing gets so bad reporters have to report on us.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I think one of the most noteworthy things that we
witness was the booing of Lindsey Graham. The crowd booed
him when he arrived, they boot him when he left,
and at no point did they really cheer for him.
I think that was probably a pretty painful thing for
Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So how does Lindsey Graham keep getting elected? Who keeps
giving political cover to Lindsey Graham? The gopeer who appears
to be torpedoing Trump's sec deaf nominee. Who is this
person protecting Lindsey Graham at every single turn? His name
is Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I call up Lindsey Graham and he straightens it out
so fair, and I'll tell you no, no, no no,
Remember remember I love him. He's a good man. Come
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up here, Lindsey, Come up here, lindsay.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is not a rant to savage Donald Trump for
saving Lindsey Graham's political career and protecting him. This is
a lesson that I can learn. You can learn, Trump
can learn. Everyone can learn. The little things that aren't
sexy are oftentimes the biggest things that matter in life.
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When you're giving a workout program before you go to
boot camp, you don't spend your time swinging from the
rafters in Denver at a concert. You go out, you
put in the work, you do the runs, you do,
the pull ups. You'd make sure you're ready for boot camp.
When you want to be president the United States of America,
you cannot constantly endorse and support the people who are
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nice to you and who flatter you, but who will
not support your agenda in the end. Lindsey Graham is
a traitor. Donald Trump has saved him and protected him.
And what Lindsey Graham did yesterday was potentially begin the
negative tide that brings down Pete Hegseeth. And if Pete
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hag Seth goes down with Lindsey Graham spearheading it, which
seems like an appropriate way to describe Lindsey Graham, then
the truth is Donald Trump is going to own some
of the blame for that. This is why we have
to get involved in the little things too, the unsexy things.
They oftentimes matter a lot. We'll finish this up and
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move on to some other things. Before we do that,
let's talk about rough greens. That's talked about getting our pets,
our cats, our dogs the nutrition they need because they
don't get it from dog food. Our dogs. Every dog
I've ever had has died too early, and I never knew.
We never knew. How do you know? I didn't know
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that we weren't giving them nutrition. We were giving them
dog feed. And we would always buy the best food
we could afford, that the special blend. I've heard that
this blend is better. Doesn't forget your blend. It's all
brown because it's dead. Though. Yeah, there may have been
shrimp in this one and beef in this one. They
killed it all at the factory. We give our dogs
empty calories, and our dogs die too early. Give your
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You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. You're welcome. It
is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Few little
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seven seven three seven seven four three seven three. Josh
Hammer is coming up about ten minutes from now. There
was a big Supreme Court hearing today about child tranny stuff.
Child mutilation is essentially what it is, and we'll get
into that with Josh. What he thinks the results are
going to be. There's a lot to get into it
with Josh. Next hour, Natalie Winters is going to join
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us in handicap Pete hegsas nomination. There's just so much
to get to, but more important than all those things,
the emails and the guests and whatnot. Before we got
back to politics, I wanted to tell you an important
personal update, just like to try to keep you. I
don't know why I tell you everything, but I like
to tell you when when big things happen in my life,
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disastrous things, great things and whatnot. It's been a challenging season,
no doubt, for obvious reasons. But I got my new pen.
Don't shake your head, Chris. I got a new pen.
And it's amazing, absolutely amazing. It is not only olive drab. Look, Chris,
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the reason, maybe maybe the reason you're shaking your head
scornfully at my pen. Maybe you can't see it because
it blends in so well. See, it's like it's basically
invisible now. But it's an olive drab pen. It's the
perfect weight, you know, it's not too heavy, it's not
too light. It when I write, I feel like John Hancock.
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It just flows, what Chris, It just flows across the
paper and you hear that, you hear that it clicks too.
What Chris what Hancock's signature was legible, but mine's not.
Chris Hancock's signature was distinctive. That's what mattered. It was distinctive.
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My signature is distinctive. Everybody who got a book that
you can still purchase at Jesse kellybook dot com. Everybody
who got a book autographed knows that's a distinctive signature
that belongs to only me. You're jealous because your signature
is not distinctive. It looks like everybody else's. But people
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can look at John Hancock and me and they say, Wow,
those guys really have the signature thing down. Pat And
now with this new pen, I think I may go
home and sign autographs just I don't have anyone specifically
I'm gonna sign autographs for, but I do have these
business cards, and all they have on them is my
name and my face. The back of the business card
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is just my face. I think tonight I'll go sign
a bunch of those because one of my favorite things
is when I go to a conference or something like that,
I hand them out to people who don't even ask.
I just hand them an autograph just to give value
for others. It is the season of giving, after all.
So pretty excited about the pen. I'm going to try
not to bring it up a lot, you know. I
don't want to brag about nice things I have. But
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it's just it's beautiful. Back to what we were saying,
Lindsey Graham's trash has been trash, and I am starting
to get concerned about Pete Hegseth getting through. And we really,
really really have to have massive reform in our military.
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It has to happen. If we don't get it, we're
in deep trouble. And look, this is the mentality. We
need a wonderful.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Process to go through and meet with senators and talk
to them, especially members of the Senate Armed Services Committee,
whose passion is the Defense Department and ourr fighters, to
hear what they want to do, to make sure that
department is properly oriented for the threats of the world
and make sure that we're putting a war fighters first.
That's what Donald Trump asked me to do. Your job
is to bring a war fighting ethos back to the Pentagon.
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Your job is to make sure.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That it's lethality.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Lethality lethality, everything else is gone. Everything else that distracts
from that shouldn't be happening. That's the message I'm hearing
from senators in that advising consent process. And it's been
a wonderful process.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And you and I have a role in this. You know,
I want to give Trump credit for yanking that Chad Cronister,
that share of Chad Cronister, that loser in Florida who
was arresting pastors during COVID. Trump put him up to
be the DEA head and then Trump just yanked it.
The guy doesn't get his dream job. Why did Trump
yank it? Why did that get pulled away? Because of you?
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Because public outcry now gets heard by people in power,
because of the power of social media, because people in
their senator email into their senator. We can cost bad
guys their job, and we did with Chad Cronister. The
exact same thing needs to happen with you and me
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when it comes to Pete Hegseth. It is critically important
not only for our military that we get Pete in there,
it's critically important that we do not allow the Communists
to once again use these vicious smear campaign tactics to
stop anybody who threatens their deeply entrenched bureaucracy, because that's
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what all this is about. And once they get Pete, Look,
they already got Gates. It already worked on Gates. They
didn't get the Senate approval. Gates had to back off
if they get Pete. Whether or not they get Pete,
they're gonna move right on to the next one, Cash Betel.
And I'm gonna tell you what they're gonna do to Cash.
They're already beginning in about a half hour from now.
We're gonna go into that. If we allow them to
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keep taking scalps, they're gonna keep taking scalps. And you
have power here. Maybe you don't think you do, Jesse.
I'm just a housewife. Jesse, I'm just a lawyer or
an account and I'm just a kid. No no, no,
no no no. You have an email, you have social media.
Probably speak up and speak out and tell your senators
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and other senators who even aren't yours that you expect
them to stand up to communists smear tactics. We must
hold strong here, and you have a role to play.
So dig In takes two minutes to send an email
a little bit longer if you're me, But that's because
the buttons are small on my phone. Maybe instead, maybe
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can't tell you how much it makes me snicker every
time that Josh Josh Hammer uses that song by MC
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hammer and he even picks the specific part that it's
Hammer this and Hammer that. Gosh, I'm insanely jealous. Joining
me now, my friend host of America on Trial, which
I'm sure you're already listening to Josh Hammer. Okay, Josh,
I haven't touched on it at all yet. What happened
today with the Supreme Court, So let's begin there before
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we get on to other things. There was a big
hearing today. There was about a bunch of child tranny madness.
The floor is yours, Hammer, go ahead, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
First of all, my brother, not all of us can
have the last name Hammer. Sometimes we have to just
make that make the best we have with a with
a generic lass name. Mike Kelly. So I'm sure that
you're coping okay over there, and my condolence to you
that you're not a hammer. But in any event, there
was a big argument today. This is this is literally
the number one biggest argument in the Supreme Court term.
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I think actually this case US versus Scremetti comes out
of the Great States of Tennessee. Tennessee passed the law
Senant Bill one, which basically says that you are not
allowed to use puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, or any
of that crap when it comes to kitty chemical castration,
genital mutilation, basically what the libs insufferably refer to as
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quote unquote gender affirming care. You're not allowed to do
this when it comes to minors under the age of eighteen.
And ludicrously, the actual plaintiff, the one doing on behalf
of the transgender people in Tennessee. It's actually the United
States government. It's literally the Biden DOJ Merrick Garland and
their solicit General, Liz Preligar, who swooped in. That's why
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this case was styled US Iscremtti. So that's how my
first observation, Jesse is that because this has come in
from the Department of Justice, the Trump DOJ can try
to end this when they get into power. It's going
to be a fight over whether or not it's actually
withdrawn because they will have already heard oral argument. But
basically let the justice sort that out. At a bare minimum,
you have to try to remove the case. So that's
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a necessary order for the Trump DJ on January twentieth.
As far as how the actual oral argument went, I'm
pretty tough that that Tennessee is going to win. I
would be shocked, like truly shocked, if Tennessee were to
lose this case, and if they were to find that
this very logical, common sense law is actually not allowed
by the Fourteenth Amendment, which is their truly absurd, constant
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arguments that they are making. They literally are saying that
the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not
allow Tennessee to protect vulnerable children from the predations of
big pharma and gender ideology and all that there. But
if I'm just looking at how the oral argument actually went,
it seems like Chief Justice John Roberts he's won of
the swing votes. Of course, seems like he's on Tennessee's side.
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I think that the other right of ten of Justices,
namely Emmy Coney, Barrett, Brett Havanaugh, and Neil Gorsich. I
think they're all going to end up on the correct
side as well. Gorstach is a bit of a question
mark because he was eerily silent at oral arguments, and
he did give us the whopper of the case known
as Bostock in twenty twenty, which was a pro transgender
case that was a big surprise from Gorsach being a
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Trump nominee. But I do think the Tennessee is going
to prevail here. And you know, Jesse, I guess the
final thing I'll say is that part of what we saw,
this oral argument, it really just accentuates and underscores to
me why the Democrats in the left are just in
such a terrible state in this country. The Democrats just
got crushed in a presidential election. They lost all seven
major swing states. And the reason why they lost because
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you idiots have Supreme Court justices like Patanji Brown Jackson,
the dimwitted Biden nominee who literally Jesse earlier today was
asking whether or not Tennessee's ban on kitty chemical castration
is in any way similar or analogous to the bans
on interracial marriage that existed before the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, at let me pause you there, Josh, because I
actually have that audio, so everyone can hear exactly what
you're talking about. This is what happens when you DEI
hire someone on the scolle.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
The question was whether it was discriminatory because it applied
to both races and it wasn't necessarily invidious or whatever.
But you know, as I read the statute here, excuse
me the case here. You know, the court starts off
by saying that Virginia is now one of sixteen states
which prohibit and punished marriages on the basis of racial classifications.
(24:31):
And when you look at the.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Structure of that law, it looks.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
In terms of incontinuing you can't do something that is
inconsistent with your own characteristics. It's sort of the same thing.
So it's interesting to me that we now have this
different argument. And I wonder whether Virginia could have gotten
away with what they did here by just making a
classification argument the way that Tennessee is in this case.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, Josh, we need to now ask a question we
have to ask often on the show. In fact, I
should put something on soundboard. Is she stupid or just evil?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I think she's not a smart individual. I mean, I
actually think that Sonya said to my own Katanji Brown
Jackson are just dumb. Now, I don't say that all
liberals are. Melena Kagan. I disagree with her a lot,
but she's definitely not dumb. She's actually a very good writer.
But Katanji Brown Jackson Jesse, I don't think she's offerating
at a particularly high IQ level, at least relative to
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her other's preme cort justices. I mean, she actually made
a glaring, glaring error in her egregious descent in the
affirmative action case. This is the case about a year
and a half ago a Students for Fair Emission versus
Harvard and UNC Chapel Hill. And this is the case
that basically got rid of affirmative action in university and
missions programs there, and Katanji Brown Jackson had just this
(25:47):
disgusting descent basically saying that the Constitution doesn't just doesn't
ban racism, but actually requires racism if that racism favors
you know, Blacks, Hispanics and so forth, while discriminating against
Whites and Jews and Asians and whatnot. There And she
actually made a glaring error here where she just got
a very simple citation wrong. She gave the wrong numbers
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and a footnote and then she very embarrassingly had to
go back after the case was already published and basically
do a mea culpa, like a mybad, I actually got
the data wrong. That is seriously embarrassing. Not something that
you see every day. As a former federal lawbooker, I
can tell you that's a serious bopa. But to your point, Jesse,
this is what happens when you select the US Supreme
Court justice, not based how good of a lawyer you are,
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or your worldview or your approach to constitutional interpretation. This
is what happens when you do, as Joe Biden did
in twenty twenty two, you pick a justice specifically because
she is a black woman, not within the fact that
black women comprise two percent of the national lawyer pool.
They're literally two percent. But when you get apparently, when
you limit your search to a tiny portion of the
(26:55):
lawyer of profession demographic, I guess this is what you get.
Or it's just awful, it's so dumb.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Hey, Josh, I want you to listen to something here.
I don't know if this is coming through at all.
Do you hear that clicking? That is a brand new
pen that I bought, and it writes so well, and
it's got the perfect weight, and it has the little
click thing on there. Do you have any kind of
pens that you're particularly proud of, because this one is
top notch, my friend.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Top notch, you know, Jesse. I have to tell you,
I've actually been remarkably consistent on this since I kid
you not, I was probably nine or ten years old.
I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan of It's
not a clickpen. It's like the roller pen. It's the pilot.
It's a pilot, precise rolling ballpen. I have a bunch
of my desk right now, beautiful blue ink. I'm a
(27:41):
huge fan of this pen, Jesse. But I have to
tell you, man, I don't want to use pens very
often anymore. Do you find yourself writing a lot?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, no, Josh, But now I think I will now
that I have a high end pen. When you buy
a Lamborghini, you take it for a drive. When you
have a pen like I, do you do a lot
of writing. I'm a pen A letter tonight I might
write a letter to you, you never know.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I would very much look forward to that, my friends.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I would welcome that correspond Josh. Before I get off
here and pen my letter, I need to ask you
if you will wait for maybe do you have another
five ten minutes? Because I didn't even get to Cash
Paatel and this kind of stuff, and I have other
things I want to get to with you. I should
have asked you beforehand. Can you wait?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, we will wait. I am going to get off
here and begin penning my letter, dearest Josh. After I
get back, we'll get to Cash, Betel and stuff. Hang on,
it is the Jesse Kelly Show back with Josh Hammer,
host of America on Trial. Just got us boned up
on what happened with the Supreme Court today. Now I
(28:43):
really want to shift gears and start talking some deep
state Cash Patel stuff. Okay, Josh, we found out last
night that he was targeted by the Iranians. I don't
believe that, but even still, there's a lot of opposition
to Cash Patel. Tell us about this person, you know it?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah? I do you know Cashtel a little bit. We actually,
at one point guests co hosted Steve Bannon's warm while
Steve was tragically in the Danbury, Connecticut jail. There for
a few months, so cash Mittel quite literally wrote the
book on the Russia collusion delusion. I mean, he has
been the epicenter investigations into Crossfire, Hurricane, and the fact
(29:23):
that the FBI was used into a partisan tool of
the Hillary Clinton campaign to literally spy on Carter Page
and George Papadopolis, and how there were people like Lisa
Paige and Peter Struck there inside the FBI who were
talking about using the FBI as a quote fail safe.
Cash Mittel has been on top for a very long time.
He's someone who has who has previously worked in national
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security circles and in intelligence community positions for the Trump administration.
Who's actually someone who even has bipartisan bona fides. He
actually was a prosecutor for the DOJ going back to
the Obama administration actually there. So even though he is
definitely a a strong, high powered Trump loyalist, I mean,
the guy even has bipartisan bona fite is frankly there.
(30:06):
The reason Jesse that liberals are up in arms over
this one is because Cash Battel is the kind of
guy who will go in there and will actually turn
the FBI upside down. Now, if you are me Josh
Hammer or if you are you Jesse Kelly, you probably
hear that and you're like, oh my god, like, let's
freaking that sounds awesome. But if you know, if you're
(30:27):
a company man, if you're the kind of guy who
works in the deep state, if you're the kind of
guy who works in the bureaucracy, if you know your
bread is buttered, so to speak, when it comes to
the military industrial complex and all that, then you're necessarily
going to be opposed to cash Betel because he is
a disruptive force. But the FBI is the belly of
the belly of the beast. I mean, it is the
epicenter of all epicenters, Like when we speak of the
(30:48):
deep state. To me, the FBI is literally the agency
that comes to zactly to mind going back again to
cross by our hurricane. But also the way that the
FBI acted when it came to the twenty twenty election
with the Hunter Biden laptop and the Gretchen Whitmer fake
kidnapping plot. To January sixth, twenty twenty one, the FBI's
public perception is at an all time low water and polling,
(31:10):
and that's because that they have just repeatedly proclowned themselves
over and over and over again. So we actually really
do need to turn this thing up down. And I
guess the final thing that I'll say about cash Totel,
you know, Jesse, One of my favorite quotes is from
a guy named hl Mankin. He was a well known
newspaper columnist, maybe about one hundred years ago, early twentieth
century guy, and he said here, I'm paraphrasing, but he
(31:30):
said that democracy is the theory that the average man
knows what he wants and then when he votes for it,
he deserves to get it good and hard, and translated
took to our modern times here after the twenty twenty
four election, the average person wants maga. They want to
clean the swamp. And if you want to drain the
swamp there the cash totel.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Is your gun, Josh? How deep is it? And I
say that because I'm I'm well aware that the deep stage,
the system, whatever you want to call it, it is
going to work very hard to protect itself. And I
know we have these reformers coming, Lord Willing if they
can get through confirmation, But how much good can they do?
(32:11):
Can they drain it? Can they drain most of it,
a little of it. What is realistic? I don't want
to get my hopes up or the hopes up of
anybody listing right now. What's realistic?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Well, I don't want to fall together anyone's hopes up either.
To be honest with you, Look, Jessie, this was one
of the problems with the trumpdministration the first time around,
is that he generally was not successful at doing this.
I mean, this is kind of his whole twenty sixteen
message as well. And to be clear, a lot of
his promises twenty exteen were absolutely kept. I'm not trying
to take anything away from the man, but when it
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comes to the bread and butter work of gutting the
federal bureocracy of subversive malcontents, you know, he generally was
less than fully successful. You know. This is one of
the reasons why, unlike many other lawyers, why I was
very sympathetic to the MATC. Gates training general picks. You know,
I mean, would I have picked Matt Gay's probably not,
probably not the exact guy with a picks. But if
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you're trying to actually get rid of the rocks in
the DOJ, which and is the belly of the beast
here at the FBI is part of the DJ, then
that's the kind of guy that you want in there.
So from that perspective, Cash Bettel is hopefully the kind
of guy that actually can get in there, and frankly,
just his mere presence will probably cause a lot of
low level agents to just immediately resign there, while hopefully
(33:27):
encouraging new young recruits who actually have a pro America
patriotic worldview to get them to go out and come
join the FRAY and join the FBI's that's what you
hope for, certainly in a situation like this, but it's
really going to have to come largely from Donald Trump himself.
There's only so much that people like Cash Bettel, Pam
bond yea DJ, these others can do. The President really
(33:49):
does set the tone, and it's bread and butter constitutional
law that the President of the United States, because he
has the quote unquote executive power under Article to the Constitution,
he has the ability to make any hiring or firing
decision he wants, period, full stop, end of story. There
are some Supreme Court cases from seventy eighty ninety years
(34:09):
ago that purports to limit his authority to do that.
Those cases are wrong, we decided, and given the court's
current composition, those cases would be overturned. So Donald Trump
really needs to go in there, and he really should
set the tone right away, and I'm hopeful that he
will do that. But like you, my expectations are somewhat
mixed out with.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
This, Josh, I've only got a couple minutes left here.
Is Donald Trump going to be able? I realized I'm
asking you to predict retirements and things like that, so
I get that ahead of time. Is he going to
be able to replace any of these Supreme Court justices
either ones of ours that are aging out? You know
that Clarence Thomas is the alitos or Lord Willing. Obviously
(34:49):
in the perfect world, he's replacing theirs, so we can
have even more of an unbalanced on the court in
our favor.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Well, that is an ideal situation, obviously, and that's what
happened to to Grufbater Ginsberg when she pass the way
and the Namy Cony Barrett joined the court there in
twenty twenty. So you never know what could happen like that.
I mean, someone could get a heart attack, someone that
have a family medical emergency. You just never know there.
As far as the right of center justice, who are
most likely to retire, I do think that Sam Alito
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is more likely than not to retire, either this year
or the year after that, probably before the twenty twenty
six mid terms. Given the fifty three forty seven edge
that Republicans had in the US Senate. It makes sense
that you would want to retire when you are assured
that the President and Senate can get you an ideologically
like minded successor there. So I create that Alito is
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more likely than not to resign. Clarence Thomas is a
genuine toss up. I do not know one way or
the other. If I truly, truly, truly had to make
a guess, I would predict that, yes, he is more
likely than not to resign over the next two years there,
But I could truly see him going either way. Clarence Thomas,
of course, yesse is, in my opinion, the nation's single
greatest living American. So who the heck am I to
(35:58):
tell him that he should retire. He can do whatever
the head he darn wants to do. But I do
think that there was a very real chance for one
or possibly even two retirements, probably even before the twenty
twenty sixth midterms.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Actually, gosh, I love Clarence Thomas. I bet he has
a sweet pen. He is Josh Hammer, host of America
on Trial. Thank you, my friend, as always, that was awesome, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I look forward to that letter.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Look, it's more than just being able to click your
pan right. It's more than just having that smooth as
silk writing. Honestly, I'm writing right now and you can't
even tell, as I'm talking to you on the air,
I'm also writing. This kind of pen allows you to
do both because it's just silky smooth. It's more than
that though. It's the weight. It can't be too light
(36:46):
it feels cheap. It can't be too heavy. I'm not
bodybuilding here. I'm writing things down. When you have a
pen that's perfectly balanced, it's just it puts you in
a whole different category. And that's what I have and
Chris doesn't. And you should see. You should see how
jealousy is. Now they're saying the Iranians hacked cash Patel. Okay,
(37:09):
let's discuss what's really happening here next
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