September 8, 2026 • 34 mins
Mamdani is being asked to not show up to the 9/11 service but that’s not going to stop him. Where were you during 9/11? Being healthy is a right wing concept apparently.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And welcome to Hour 3 of The Jesse Kelly Show.
I'm Mary Walter sitting in for Jesse Kelly. Tomorrow, Kelly
Nash is with you. Wow, a lot of Kellys. Kelly
Nash is with you tomorrow, and then Jesse is back.
Thank you so much for letting me join you here,
and thank you for joining me. If you want to
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super easy. Or you can reach out to me on
X at Mary Walter radio. And you can tag me
in a post there as we go through, um, through
the process here. Uh, Yitzhak said that, you know, this
whole thing with this paying parents to, you know, somebody
to stay home and take care of your kids. He said,
run the 9,000 program, $ 9, 000 reimbursement program for five years
(01:03):
and see if there is an increase in American babies
being born. And you get the extra $ 1, 000 from the
Trump accounts. So it's a bonus. See, I like the
Trump accounts because it's being privately funded. The Dells stepped
up and they're funding this. And some other people have
stepped up to keep it going. I like that. That
I like. Privately funded. Because if we all had more
(01:25):
money back in our pockets, we could maybe share the
wealth a little bit. But if I'm being forced to
share the wealth through government programs and they can decide
who is more deserving of my money than I am, Um,
I don't have as much money in my pocket to
reward people that I think should be rewarded. See how
that works. So I, I like the fact that, um,
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that that is being privately funded. All right. September 11th
is Friday. Now I live, as I said, in the
people's socialist Republic of New Jersey. I, it was way
too close for, as far as I'm concerned, but it's very, very, very,
very vivid to me. I have not been to ground zero.
I can't, I, we went. to ground zero that happened
(02:07):
in September. I want to say November, October, November, November,
we were, we were there, we went down and they
were still taking some of the steel beams out. And, um,
it was, things were still dusty and, and, and all
of that. And I can't go back. I can't go back.
I had an uncle who was in the lobby when
one of the towers fell and they survived, which is amazing.
(02:31):
My sister-in-law's brother was one of the police officers who survived.
He came from the Bronx and just rushed down there
and was there when one of the buildings fell and
was miraculously saved. Uh, and just it ruined him for life, like,
like mentally ruined him for life. So I, I just,
the county that I live in in New Jersey, over
(02:53):
3000 children lost one or both parents that day. So it's,
it's super, super like, it's fresh to me. It's raw
to me. I don't know if it will ever not
be raw to me. It's super important, and so I
have a problem with some of the things that have
been happening regarding 9-11. I saw the smoke come over.
(03:16):
I could smell it. It was rough. President Trump was
on Fox News with Trey Gowdy, and they were discussing 9-11,
and Trump had some reflections on that because, remember, at
the time, Trump the Builder, was in New York at
the time, and he talks about how he, from where
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he was in midtown Manhattan, you could see the World
Trade Center because they're huge buildings, big, tall buildings, or
you're in a big, tall building, but they were huge,
tall buildings. They were so iconic. You always knew where
you were in Manhattan based on where the World Trade
Center is, but if you were up, you couldn't always
tell from the street, but if you were higher up,
you could always tell. And he's reflecting on... what he
(03:59):
saw that day when he could see the smoke from
where he was. Here's President Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And I'm viewing this thing happen. I said, that's crazy.
It couldn't be a plane.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Maybe it was a missile.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Maybe it was something, but it's not anything that we
built like the boilers and the air conditioners.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's none of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I said, wow, that's, and it was really, and then
I'm watching and I saw the second plane hit and
you saw that come and you're watching it and it's,
because I watched the air patterns for years. And you
know where the planes are. They go right up the
Hudson River. This thing was coming right into the second building.
And I said, wow. So I watched that happen. And
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I said, wow, we are now in a different time.
So I saw it, and I said, the world has
just changed. And I went down. I was building a
building in New York, and I had a lot of
construction workers. And I went down there very shortly thereafter,
the following day. You couldn't go down the same day,
but like the following day, very, very quickly afterwards.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah. And what he did is he took some of
his crews down there, and they helped put them to work.
Instead of building his buildings, put them to work moving
and digging in the rubble to look for survivors. And, um, yeah,
(05:31):
so what president Trump, of course, there's an iconic picture
of him walking down there with all these people around
him to, to see what it was. But I, I,
I think that it was a very different time in
this country. Obviously when people came together, didn't matter, Democrat, Republican,
whatever people wanted to help and they wanted to do something.
(05:52):
And so president Trump's at the time, Mr. Trump, sent
down some of his workers to help. I want to
go to cut to President Trump in his speech announcing
an honor, something to honor a 9-11 firefighter, a hero
named Jeffrey Palazzo.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
This weekend in New York, the Coast Guard will commission
a brand new, beautiful, I bought it myself. I've negotiated
the price. It was very expensive. I didn't want to negotiate.
Too hard in honor of him. But brand-new Coast Guard will,
they're going to commission a beautiful brand-new fast, it's called
(06:33):
Fast Response Cutter, the most incredible, kind of ship you'll
ever see.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It can go through anything.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
They go out into waves that are five times bigger
than it, and they come back. I don't know how
they do it, but they come back. But this is
the U.S. Coast Guard cutter, Jeffrey Palazzo. So we honor
him with this very important tribute.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And there are tributes that have been happening in the
last 25 years. And I think they are all very,
very fitting. What bothers the living daylights out of me
is we don't teach history in our schools anymore and
we haven't. And so we have an entire generation that
knows nothing about what happened on nine 11 zip. They
know nothing about what happened on nine 11 or what
they are being taught is so whitewashed that it's so
(07:23):
far from the truth that that it's just a bastardization
of history. Now, speaking of bastardization of history, let's talk
about Mayor Zoram Mamdani, shall we? So I'm sure you
saw this Friday. Well, did this happen on Friday? Yeah,
so administration officials were gathered at City Hall for some
(07:45):
executive orders. And this is ahead of the 25th anniversary
of the attacks, which is happening this Friday.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
One of them established a day of remembrance and another for, um,
beefing up security against future terror threats. Okay. After mom
Donnie signed the last of the documents, he gave police
commissioner Jessica Tish the ceremonial pen and he whispered to her,
can you pass this? And so she passes it to
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this guy who was standing next to her and she
was so awkward. It looked like a hostage video. she,
she just like kind of like just hands it over,
like to the side, you know, hands it to this guy.
Like she wants, it was like Mondani handed her a
Cobra and said, here, give it to that guy over there.
She wanted nothing to do with this. She hands it
to the guy. The guy was mom Donnie's or is
(08:33):
ma'am Donnie's chief counsel. His name is Ramsey Kassam. Now
he was not in the press conference originally. So I'll
tell you what happened. But, um, he, um, he wasn't
present during the press conference until the very end. And
he snuck in about 15 minutes late. And then he
made a quick exit right after the police commissioner. He
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was present at the ceremony because he and his team
wrote both nine 11 executive orders as part of his
duties as chief counsel. All right now. So why is this?
Why are we even talking about this? Well, uh, a Michael,
what is this guy's name? Okay, well, I don't understand.
(09:15):
But anyway, a retired detective and adjunct professor at John
Jay College of Criminal Justice, whose name is Michael Alcazar,
told the New York Post this was calculated. This happened
during a ceremony meant to be about the victims and
no one else. 9-11 families didn't come to City Hall
to watch Mamdani spotlight someone whose work intersects with the
very ideology that took to their loved ones. Commissioner Jessica
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Tisch was reduced to a prop rather than acknowledging her
role as the leader of the NYPD. They were devastated.
NYPD and the fire department devastated on 9-11. Just devastated.
So many men and women ran towards the buildings and
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were then.
Killed in the aftermath because they chose to go save
lives and run towards the building. And I know I'm
preaching the choir here, but I'm just going to tell you.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm going to tell you on the other side of this.
We've got a quick break coming up. But on the
other side of this, I'm going to tell you who
Ramsey Qasim is and why so many people are so
angry by that simple gesture of handing Jessica Tisch the pen,
who is the head of the police union. So this
was a slap in the face to her as well
(10:31):
as every family member that was in that room and
actually all of us and why it was done. in
my humble opinion. And you can give yours 877-377-4373 or
tag me in a post on Exit Mary Walter Radio.
Tell you who he was, who he is, coming up
next on The Jesse Kelly Show. You're listening to The Oracle.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
You're going to love this one.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's a scream, baby.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Jesse Kelly Show. Welcome back. Mary Walter in on
the Jesse Kelly show talking about Mamdani and 9-11 and
what he did that I think was just such a slap.
And I'm telling you, this show, this is what happens.
Elections have consequences. We say it all the time. But
I never thought I would see the day where we
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would have someone who is so clearly more Islamist than
Muslim is the mayor of New York. I just never
thought I would see it. And Yitzhak said we could
smell the burning plastic and a metallic taste in White Plains.
The stench came right up the Hudson. My brother was
down there, saw it, number one, go in DA's office.
He had the prosecution against Deutsche Bank, disconnected fire system, corruption,
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et cetera. So, yeah, if you remember, if you remember.
All right. So who is this guy, Ramzi Qasim, who
Jessica Tisch, the head of the police unit, all right,
police department, was forced to hand the pen, the ceremonial
signing pen, which is an honor to be handed that pen.
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Qasem represented Al-Qaeda operative Ahmed al-Darby. And he's even seen
on video smirking as he receives the pen. One man
whose brother was a firefighter with Ladder 5 and was
killed in the North Tower said, how can you defend
a guy like that who wants to do Americans or
any innocent person harm? Council member Joanne Areola-Queens says it
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shows you exactly where his loyalties truly lie. She said
it was breathtakingly tone deaf and disrespectful. The families who
lost loved ones on 9-11 have every right to be outraged.
On the 25th anniversary, City Hall should be honoring their
sacrifice with dignity, not forcing those families to endure yet
another insult. So Al Darby was sent to Guantanamo after
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he was convicted of terrorism. in the O2 bombing of
a French oil tanker in the Middle East. He was
part of an al-Qaeda plot to attack the global oil
trade after 9-11. His sister married Khalid al-Mindar, who was
one of the 9-11 hijackers. It was the plane that
crashed into the Pentagon. And this guy, Qasem, who was
(13:11):
given this ceremonial pen... founded a legal clinic at CUNY,
which is the City University of New York, that offers
free legal representation to Muslims. He also defended Mahmoud Khalil,
who was a leader of the pro-Palestinian encampment at Columbia,
who was detained by ICE. Vicky Palladino is a Republican
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out of Queens, and she said Ramzi Qasim said he
was inspired by 9-11. not to join the fight against terrorism,
but to defend the terrorists themselves. He doesn't even belong
in this country, much less in our government. A former
Democrat political consultant, David Savella, posted on X, was it
deliberate on your part to give your Muslim base a
(13:54):
hint that this is all BS to pacify other New Yorkers?
That is pretty much what it comes across as. It
was such a slap. So because of that, there are
now protests and there is a petition that is circulating
(14:15):
to keep Mamdani from the 9-11 ceremonies. They want to
keep him out. And I can't blame them. Let's go
to cut eight. Rudy Giuliani is one of the loudest voices.
He was on Newsmax, by the way. I'll be on
Newsmax at 7.05 a.m. tomorrow morning, Eastern Time. Rudy Giuliani
on Newsmax talking about this entire thing and why Mom
(14:36):
Donnie should just skip the 9-11 proceedings altogether.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
The reality is this ceremony is for the families and
for America to remember historically. And frankly, whatever he'd like
to say, He doesn't agree that September 11 was an
Islamic terrorist attack on the United States of America, one
(15:00):
that is in terms of a war or effort continuing
today and maybe even worse today. So having lost friends
there and being very close to many of the families,
it offends me that he's coming. This is not a
place for people like the— Arab princeling who gave me
(15:22):
$ 10 million so that he could say this was caused
by American and Israeli foreign policy. From day one, I've
taken a very strong position against that because I knew
that would be the propaganda the Islamic extremists would use
because we fall for it. Too many Americans fall for
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that Islamic propaganda, which is the reason they're taking over
certain parts of America and certain parts of Europe. They
have every desire to take us over. This is not,
they want to be just another religion. They want to
dominate us. That's what they're taught from the day they
begin their extremist religious education. Mandami is a clear supporter
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of that. All of the Muslims he supports are murderers.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, he also claimed that Mamdani doesn't agree that September
11th was an Islamic terror attack on the United States
of America. He also, you had former New York Governor
George Pataki also called on Mamdani to stay home. He
said that the mayor was too close to people such
as far left influencer Hassan Piker, who has blamed America
(16:38):
for the terror, for the attack. He said, with respect
to the mayor, I think anyone who doesn't intentionally distance
themselves from Hassan Piker, who has said that America deserved
the attacks of 9-11, should not be there. Anyone who
has refused to reject the phrase globalize the intifada which
unequivocally calls for violence against Jews, not just in Israel,
but anywhere in the world, should not be at that site.
(17:00):
I think Mamdani has two choices. Reject those extremist views
against America and calling for violence against Jews, or voluntarily
decide it's not in the families and the victims' interest
for him to be there. Here's the thing. You know
he's going to be there, because like that pen, he
wants to shove it in everyone's faces. Coming up on
the other side, I have to play for you this
one piece of audio that moved me. I welled up
(17:23):
a little bit. I got a little teary-eyed. That was
part of the celebration today, the memorial today at the
White House.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Hey, welcome back. All right, we're talking about 9-11, and
I have to share this with you. I have to
share this with you. Okay. And you can tag me
to post on X at Mary Walter Radio if you
want to jump in, 877-377-4300. 73. And Yitzhak, who I
know used to live in New York, made this is incredible.
He said the pen was a setup of Jessica Tisch,
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the head of the NYPD. He made her a Jewish
female give the pen to a male Muslim who's a jihadi.
The Muslims love symbolism. They hate women and more so
a Jewish woman. So he made her submit, take a
knee for Islam. Wow. I did not put that together
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at all, but he did. He made her as a
Jewish woman pass that pen to a Muslim man who
defended a jihadi and has connections.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yitzhak, that's very interesting. And thank you for bringing that up.
I didn't realize that. So, all right. So I want
to play this. This is cut nine. This is Frank Siller,
the head of the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. He's the CEO.
And his brother, Stephen, died, as we know, on 9-11.
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He put on 60 pounds of gear and ran through the,
I think it was the Manhattan Midtown Tunnel. no, it
wouldn't have been the Midtown tunnel. Uh, the Brooklyn battery tunnel.
I think, yeah, Brooklyn battery tunnel is what he, what
he ran through and it's two miles cause he couldn't
get in. So he put his gear on, he had
left for the night. He was on the night shift.
He left and he, he came back and he got
as close as he could left his car and, and
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off he went running. Now, uh, it, a little backdrop.
He had, he's the youngest of, I think like nine
or something like that. Like a lot of brothers, older
brothers and sisters. And there's a big age difference. He
was the bonus baby. And, His parents died when he
was young, like when he was like eight years old. First,
his dad died. And then a year and a half later,
his mother passed away from cancer. So his older siblings
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raised him.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So that's part of this backstory. And I could not live.
I was watching all this. of this live and I
had to get a tissue. So anyway, we're going to
share part of this. But if you have a chance
to look up the entire speech, it's like five minutes.
I highly recommend it. This is just this is more
than half. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
When he was almost 11 years old, I spent the
day with him. It was right after we lost our parents.
And he questioned his very existence. He said to me, Frankie,
why did Mommy and Daddy have to die? I wish
I was never born. I said, Steven, don't say that.
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Mommy and Daddy love you so much, they brought you
into this world. And your brothers and sisters, we will
always be there for you, and we will never let
you down. And I don't know why Mommy and Daddy
had to die. But I know God put you on
this earth for a reason, and one day you will
do something very special.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, I think he did something very special. He grew up.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
He came, lived with me when he was 18 years old,
got reacquainted with the little girl he used to walk
to school with every single day when he was eight,
nine years old.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
They fall in love. They get married. They have their
first kid. They have their second kid. They have a house.
He becomes a firefighter. They have their third kid, their
fourth kid, their fifth kid. He's on top of the world.
He has everything he ever wanted. He's married. The love
of his life. Five beautiful children. The love of his
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siblings and nephews and nieces. The brotherhood. The brotherhood of
the fire department. meant the world to him. He was
on top of the world. He had everything he ever wanted.
He was the happiest he ever was in his life.
And he works his night shift.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
On September 10th. On September 11th, on the way home
to play golf with us, he had a call to duty.
Just like so.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Many out here would have a call to duty in one.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Second like that. You would put your life on the line.
He went back to his firehouse. He got his gear.
He drove to the mouth of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel.
It was closed for security reasons. He strapped 60 pounds
of gear on his back, and he ran through that tunnel,
which is almost two miles long. He came out, went
up West Street, grabs a hook off a fire truck,
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and they say, Scylla, put that back. He laughs. He
runs with it. He was on a mission. He goes
into the South Tower. He's running up those stairs. And
like so many heroes that day, while saving others, he
gave up his life. At 9.59 a.m., I was sitting
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in my living room with my mother-in-law, and I turned
to her when the South Tower fell down, and I said, Nancy,
I think I just lost my brother. I went to
so many different firehouses trying to find out, where was Steven?
Where was Steven? I was calling, where was Steven? Finally,
we brought my whole family together at my house. And
in the afternoon, I got a call from Richie Obermeyer,
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a firefighter that had lived a few doors from my
brother Steven. He said to me, Frank, he's down at
Ground Zero. He says, Frank, Steven's on a list of
missing firefighters, and it's really bad down here.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I said, yes, I know, Rich. We're all looking. We're
in my living room. We're all looking. And he goes, no,
it's really bad down here. I says, Rich, I could
see it. He goes, no, Frank, you don't understand. Nobody's
coming home.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And then he he goes on to recount how he
had to then go and tell Stephen's wife and his
kids that. That their father was gone, which is what,
you know, Stephen went through that when he was a kid.
It was just so powerful. And what they're doing is
the Steel Across America tour. And it was at the Ellipse.
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And this is where the ceremony took place. And they
also have pictures of all of the first responders who
lost their lives in the 9-11 terrorist attack. And they're
really big and they have them on these pillars. And
it was just lining the walkway at the ellipse. And
then they had this big, huge piece of steel. They
had it blessed today. And it was just so, so powerful.
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And I think we have done such a disservice to
the next generation by not telling them about it. 877-377-4373
if you want to jump in. Let's head to New York. Hey, Sean, welcome.
You're on the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Hi, and I'm glad we're all talking about 9-11 because
it's very important never to forget. I can tell you
I went down there on 9-11, down to the Trade Center.
You can only go as far as Canal Street, what
you call. I saw guys coming out of their cars.
They were off-duty police, off-duty firemen. And what happened that
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day should have never happened. Because of open borders, every
enemy of America was inside our country. But I just
want to say something else, because those firemen who died
that day, they're warriors. But also, last year, before Thanksgiving,
Sarah Beckstrom, a female national guard woman, was murdered by
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an Afghan freak. And I got to tell people, I
was told something unusual was going on two weeks after 9-11.
So I went out to Kennedy Airport. Nobody was flying.
But I noticed hundreds upon hundreds of people from Afghanistan
were coming into this country. I asked the workers there,
do we know who these people are? They didn't know
(25:37):
who they are. But we now know who one of
them was. His name is Lockham Wilde. He's the one
who murdered Sarah Beckstrom a day before Thanksgiving last year.
Speaker 10 (25:47):
So if we don't close the borders legally and illegally,
this country is done. And I want to build churches
in Saudi Arabia, and I want to sell country ham
down in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
That's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You know what, though? I have to tell you, I
know you're in New York. What the hell happened in
the mayoral election? I think he's gone. I think he's gone.
What happened in the mayoral election? Now, they're saying that
because of all of this, that Bruce... And thank you
for your call, Sean. You're going to hear that kind
of anger from people. You are, because of what happened.
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You're going to hear it. Bruce Blankman is the Republican
running against Governor Kathy Hochul, and he's not that far
behind her. He's actually doing quite well. And they're saying
that because of all of this, everything that's happening, that...
You may very well see a Republican take the governorship
of New York, which would be amazing. All right, more coming.
(26:48):
We'll try to end it, lighten it up, coming up
a little bit here because we're going to talk about
the Democrat Socialist Convention that they just had. And it's
kind of entertaining. So we'll talk about that next on
The Jesse Kelly Show. You're listening to The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And we are back. We are so back.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So socialism, 2026, did you miss it? It ended yesterday
in Chicago. What a great city to have a, have
a conference in, especially for socialism. And so this clown
car of insanity, uh, all gathered in one place. And
it was very, it was a lot of fun if
you're on the outside looking in and you have a
lot of popcorn and a couple of beers. So I
(27:34):
went to their, their page, the socialism conference.org and looked
at their 2026 schedule. And it's fun. Cause you can,
you can, filter it based on different things for like
culture and art. On Friday, they had sing, struggle, organize,
movement songs, political education, and collective power. Cause you know
how much fun it is when these people sing. Tone
(27:57):
deaf as all heck and they always, somebody's always got
a drum.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And then after that was introduction to the theater of
the oppressed. I'm sorry, but I find that hilarious. You
also could have sat in on songs for liberation. Art
and propaganda. I'm learning from Paul Robeson and why the
(28:22):
artist must take sides. No, must only take one side.
Let's see. Building community resources. Poetry for the people. Creating
your own community-based poetry workshop. uh neo future the neo-futurists
present the infinite wrench okay let's see what else do
(28:46):
we have um oh gender sexuality and liberation gender and
accumulation sex for pleasure controller controlling your reproduction under a
pronatalist regime i will tell you in all honesty i
don't even know what I would say about 30% of
what the words are in any of this. I have
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no idea because they speak their own language and I
refuse to learn it. I just absolutely refuse. Unsafe, the
carceral roots of the anti-trans backlash. organizing under hostile state
governments we are each other's liberation so very very fun
so so with some of the audio coming out of
it so let's just start with cut 18 all right
(29:27):
now the person who is giving this speech by the
way they all had masks on every single one of
them had masks on some of had two masks on
because they are just so beta and the physical shape
of most of them if they get a good flu
they're out right so um this person was obese of
course and wearing a mask uh giving this little talk
(29:47):
here it's only a minute long here we go.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
The fantasy of being fitter than the fascists It's not
just that it's cringe or strategically bad, though it is.
I think it's also politically revealing. Fitness is a measure
of relative disposability under capitalism. Our task is not to
(30:13):
become less disposable, to become more useful to the ruling order.
What we all need to be doing is rejecting disposability
in all of its forms. The point is not to
beat the fascists at their own game. It is not
to lay a better claim on their own territory by
(30:34):
being fitter.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
More eugenic.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
In fact, the more disgenic, the better, I think. Revolution
is not a contest between optimized and properly prepared bodies.
That idea is fascist in and of itself and erases
the history of less struggles around the world.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
First of all, that was not, that was not the,
the obese person. Um, she's, she's thin, so I have
to get, you know, that's fine, but I don't understand
what about 40% of the words where they're dysgenic, eugenic, whatever. And, um,
but I do want to, so I don't understand that,
but I want to get to, Oh, um, cut 19.
Let's try that. I think this is, I think this
is the one cause you can almost hear them breathing
(31:17):
heavily under the mask.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
The political deployment of GLP-1s is fascistic, not because individuals
take them, but because the conditions under which they become
necessary are shaped by a world fixated on genociding fat people.
This is a structural critique that asks, what happens when
the conditions produced by capitalism, by public health, by the
state apparatus, and by anti-black desire align around a single
(31:43):
bodily ideal that leaves little to no room for divergence
and punishes any body that does? Whereas earlier diet drugs
were often associated with vanity or addiction, GOP1s are positioned
as responsible medicine, promising relief rather than restraint. But to
understand why the deployment of GOP1s is fascistic requires turning
(32:04):
to Frantz Fanon's account of black flesh under colonial surveillance.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Okay, so that's the guy. That's a heavy guy. But
what he's saying there is being fit is fascistic. It's fascistic.
And he's also saying that if you're black, you're just
naturally heavy. And I happen to know that that's not true.
I know plenty of people who are of color who
are not obese and overweight because they take care of themselves.
And we don't have time. I don't think we have time.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Oh, we do. We do.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let's do the last one. This one, this one talks
about healing, like your mental health healing. Listen to what
they have to say about actually, you know, healing your
brain and moving forward and getting over a trauma in life.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (32:45):
In lefty space, we can have this insidious, accidental, small
bubbling up of health fascism when we talk about healing.
And we say, OK, come together for a ritual of
healing and care. And we have to be really careful
about what healing actually means and what we're offering. And
I found over and over again in space over time
(33:07):
during Metro Surge that folks were not looking for healing.
What they actually wanted was support and care together in
ritual collectively, sitting with the cracks, sitting with the bones,
sitting with the aftermath of the explosion, sitting there in
the dark together, not trying to get better, not trying
to get past it, not even grieving if we weren't
(33:29):
yet able to grieve, but sitting in the horror together.
And that kind of slowing down enough, slowing down enough
together to not be grasping at, desperately grasping at the
world that we hoped would be emerging soon. But instead,
being here now with the broken pieces was a recurring
(33:55):
theme and is still a recurring theme.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
You have to sit with the bones. It's just ridiculous.
But there's so much fun audio out there. So have fun.
Hit the internet and check it out. I'm Mary Walter.
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(34:19):
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all your help. And tomorrow, Kelly Nash is in for
Jesse on The Jesse Kelly Show.
This is The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And welcome to Hour 3 of The Jesse Kelly Show.
I'm Mary Walter sitting in for Jesse Kelly. Tomorrow, Kelly
Nash is with you. Wow, a lot of Kellys. Kelly
Nash is with you tomorrow, and then Jesse is back.
Thank you so much for letting me join you here,
and thank you for joining me. If you want to
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(00:40):
super easy. Or you can reach out to me on
X at Mary Walter radio. And you can tag me
in a post there as we go through, um, through
the process here. Uh, Yitzhak said that, you know, this
whole thing with this paying parents to, you know, somebody
to stay home and take care of your kids. He said,
run the 9,000 program, $ 9, 000 reimbursement program for five years
(01:03):
and see if there is an increase in American babies
being born. And you get the extra $ 1, 000 from the
Trump accounts. So it's a bonus. See, I like the
Trump accounts because it's being privately funded. The Dells stepped
up and they're funding this. And some other people have
stepped up to keep it going. I like that. That
I like. Privately funded. Because if we all had more
(01:25):
money back in our pockets, we could maybe share the
wealth a little bit. But if I'm being forced to
share the wealth through government programs and they can decide
who is more deserving of my money than I am, Um,
I don't have as much money in my pocket to
reward people that I think should be rewarded. See how
that works. So I, I like the fact that, um,
(01:45):
that that is being privately funded. All right. September 11th
is Friday. Now I live, as I said, in the
people's socialist Republic of New Jersey. I, it was way
too close for, as far as I'm concerned, but it's very, very, very,
very vivid to me. I have not been to ground zero.
I can't, I, we went. to ground zero that happened
(02:07):
in September. I want to say November, October, November, November,
we were, we were there, we went down and they
were still taking some of the steel beams out. And, um,
it was, things were still dusty and, and, and all
of that. And I can't go back. I can't go back.
I had an uncle who was in the lobby when
one of the towers fell and they survived, which is amazing.
(02:31):
My sister-in-law's brother was one of the police officers who survived.
He came from the Bronx and just rushed down there
and was there when one of the buildings fell and
was miraculously saved. Uh, and just it ruined him for life, like,
like mentally ruined him for life. So I, I just,
the county that I live in in New Jersey, over
(02:53):
3000 children lost one or both parents that day. So it's,
it's super, super like, it's fresh to me. It's raw
to me. I don't know if it will ever not
be raw to me. It's super important, and so I
have a problem with some of the things that have
been happening regarding 9-11. I saw the smoke come over.
(03:16):
I could smell it. It was rough. President Trump was
on Fox News with Trey Gowdy, and they were discussing 9-11,
and Trump had some reflections on that because, remember, at
the time, Trump the Builder, was in New York at
the time, and he talks about how he, from where
(03:37):
he was in midtown Manhattan, you could see the World
Trade Center because they're huge buildings, big, tall buildings, or
you're in a big, tall building, but they were huge,
tall buildings. They were so iconic. You always knew where
you were in Manhattan based on where the World Trade
Center is, but if you were up, you couldn't always
tell from the street, but if you were higher up,
you could always tell. And he's reflecting on... what he
(03:59):
saw that day when he could see the smoke from
where he was. Here's President Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And I'm viewing this thing happen. I said, that's crazy.
It couldn't be a plane.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Maybe it was a missile.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Maybe it was something, but it's not anything that we
built like the boilers and the air conditioners.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's none of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I said, wow, that's, and it was really, and then
I'm watching and I saw the second plane hit and
you saw that come and you're watching it and it's,
because I watched the air patterns for years. And you
know where the planes are. They go right up the
Hudson River. This thing was coming right into the second building.
And I said, wow. So I watched that happen. And
(04:43):
I said, wow, we are now in a different time.
So I saw it, and I said, the world has
just changed. And I went down. I was building a
building in New York, and I had a lot of
construction workers. And I went down there very shortly thereafter,
the following day. You couldn't go down the same day,
but like the following day, very, very quickly afterwards.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah. And what he did is he took some of
his crews down there, and they helped put them to work.
Instead of building his buildings, put them to work moving
and digging in the rubble to look for survivors. And, um, yeah,
(05:31):
so what president Trump, of course, there's an iconic picture
of him walking down there with all these people around
him to, to see what it was. But I, I,
I think that it was a very different time in
this country. Obviously when people came together, didn't matter, Democrat, Republican,
whatever people wanted to help and they wanted to do something.
(05:52):
And so president Trump's at the time, Mr. Trump, sent
down some of his workers to help. I want to
go to cut to President Trump in his speech announcing
an honor, something to honor a 9-11 firefighter, a hero
named Jeffrey Palazzo.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
This weekend in New York, the Coast Guard will commission
a brand new, beautiful, I bought it myself. I've negotiated
the price. It was very expensive. I didn't want to negotiate.
Too hard in honor of him. But brand-new Coast Guard will,
they're going to commission a beautiful brand-new fast, it's called
(06:33):
Fast Response Cutter, the most incredible, kind of ship you'll
ever see.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It can go through anything.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
They go out into waves that are five times bigger
than it, and they come back. I don't know how
they do it, but they come back. But this is
the U.S. Coast Guard cutter, Jeffrey Palazzo. So we honor
him with this very important tribute.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And there are tributes that have been happening in the
last 25 years. And I think they are all very,
very fitting. What bothers the living daylights out of me
is we don't teach history in our schools anymore and
we haven't. And so we have an entire generation that
knows nothing about what happened on nine 11 zip. They
know nothing about what happened on nine 11 or what
they are being taught is so whitewashed that it's so
(07:23):
far from the truth that that it's just a bastardization
of history. Now, speaking of bastardization of history, let's talk
about Mayor Zoram Mamdani, shall we? So I'm sure you
saw this Friday. Well, did this happen on Friday? Yeah,
so administration officials were gathered at City Hall for some
(07:45):
executive orders. And this is ahead of the 25th anniversary
of the attacks, which is happening this Friday.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
One of them established a day of remembrance and another for, um,
beefing up security against future terror threats. Okay. After mom
Donnie signed the last of the documents, he gave police
commissioner Jessica Tish the ceremonial pen and he whispered to her,
can you pass this? And so she passes it to
(08:12):
this guy who was standing next to her and she
was so awkward. It looked like a hostage video. she,
she just like kind of like just hands it over,
like to the side, you know, hands it to this guy.
Like she wants, it was like Mondani handed her a
Cobra and said, here, give it to that guy over there.
She wanted nothing to do with this. She hands it
to the guy. The guy was mom Donnie's or is
(08:33):
ma'am Donnie's chief counsel. His name is Ramsey Kassam. Now
he was not in the press conference originally. So I'll
tell you what happened. But, um, he, um, he wasn't
present during the press conference until the very end. And
he snuck in about 15 minutes late. And then he
made a quick exit right after the police commissioner. He
(08:54):
was present at the ceremony because he and his team
wrote both nine 11 executive orders as part of his
duties as chief counsel. All right now. So why is this?
Why are we even talking about this? Well, uh, a Michael,
what is this guy's name? Okay, well, I don't understand.
(09:15):
But anyway, a retired detective and adjunct professor at John
Jay College of Criminal Justice, whose name is Michael Alcazar,
told the New York Post this was calculated. This happened
during a ceremony meant to be about the victims and
no one else. 9-11 families didn't come to City Hall
to watch Mamdani spotlight someone whose work intersects with the
very ideology that took to their loved ones. Commissioner Jessica
(09:39):
Tisch was reduced to a prop rather than acknowledging her
role as the leader of the NYPD. They were devastated.
NYPD and the fire department devastated on 9-11. Just devastated.
So many men and women ran towards the buildings and
(09:59):
were then.
Killed in the aftermath because they chose to go save
lives and run towards the building. And I know I'm
preaching the choir here, but I'm just going to tell you.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm going to tell you on the other side of this.
We've got a quick break coming up. But on the
other side of this, I'm going to tell you who
Ramsey Qasim is and why so many people are so
angry by that simple gesture of handing Jessica Tisch the pen,
who is the head of the police union. So this
was a slap in the face to her as well
(10:31):
as every family member that was in that room and
actually all of us and why it was done. in
my humble opinion. And you can give yours 877-377-4373 or
tag me in a post on Exit Mary Walter Radio.
Tell you who he was, who he is, coming up
next on The Jesse Kelly Show. You're listening to The Oracle.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
You're going to love this one.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's a scream, baby.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Jesse Kelly Show. Welcome back. Mary Walter in on
the Jesse Kelly show talking about Mamdani and 9-11 and
what he did that I think was just such a slap.
And I'm telling you, this show, this is what happens.
Elections have consequences. We say it all the time. But
I never thought I would see the day where we
(11:17):
would have someone who is so clearly more Islamist than
Muslim is the mayor of New York. I just never
thought I would see it. And Yitzhak said we could
smell the burning plastic and a metallic taste in White Plains.
The stench came right up the Hudson. My brother was
down there, saw it, number one, go in DA's office.
He had the prosecution against Deutsche Bank, disconnected fire system, corruption,
(11:40):
et cetera. So, yeah, if you remember, if you remember.
All right. So who is this guy, Ramzi Qasim, who
Jessica Tisch, the head of the police unit, all right,
police department, was forced to hand the pen, the ceremonial
signing pen, which is an honor to be handed that pen.
(12:03):
Qasem represented Al-Qaeda operative Ahmed al-Darby. And he's even seen
on video smirking as he receives the pen. One man
whose brother was a firefighter with Ladder 5 and was
killed in the North Tower said, how can you defend
a guy like that who wants to do Americans or
any innocent person harm? Council member Joanne Areola-Queens says it
(12:27):
shows you exactly where his loyalties truly lie. She said
it was breathtakingly tone deaf and disrespectful. The families who
lost loved ones on 9-11 have every right to be outraged.
On the 25th anniversary, City Hall should be honoring their
sacrifice with dignity, not forcing those families to endure yet
another insult. So Al Darby was sent to Guantanamo after
(12:48):
he was convicted of terrorism. in the O2 bombing of
a French oil tanker in the Middle East. He was
part of an al-Qaeda plot to attack the global oil
trade after 9-11. His sister married Khalid al-Mindar, who was
one of the 9-11 hijackers. It was the plane that
crashed into the Pentagon. And this guy, Qasem, who was
(13:11):
given this ceremonial pen... founded a legal clinic at CUNY,
which is the City University of New York, that offers
free legal representation to Muslims. He also defended Mahmoud Khalil,
who was a leader of the pro-Palestinian encampment at Columbia,
who was detained by ICE. Vicky Palladino is a Republican
(13:32):
out of Queens, and she said Ramzi Qasim said he
was inspired by 9-11. not to join the fight against terrorism,
but to defend the terrorists themselves. He doesn't even belong
in this country, much less in our government. A former
Democrat political consultant, David Savella, posted on X, was it
deliberate on your part to give your Muslim base a
(13:54):
hint that this is all BS to pacify other New Yorkers?
That is pretty much what it comes across as. It
was such a slap. So because of that, there are
now protests and there is a petition that is circulating
(14:15):
to keep Mamdani from the 9-11 ceremonies. They want to
keep him out. And I can't blame them. Let's go
to cut eight. Rudy Giuliani is one of the loudest voices.
He was on Newsmax, by the way. I'll be on
Newsmax at 7.05 a.m. tomorrow morning, Eastern Time. Rudy Giuliani
on Newsmax talking about this entire thing and why Mom
(14:36):
Donnie should just skip the 9-11 proceedings altogether.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
The reality is this ceremony is for the families and
for America to remember historically. And frankly, whatever he'd like
to say, He doesn't agree that September 11 was an
Islamic terrorist attack on the United States of America, one
(15:00):
that is in terms of a war or effort continuing
today and maybe even worse today. So having lost friends
there and being very close to many of the families,
it offends me that he's coming. This is not a
place for people like the— Arab princeling who gave me
(15:22):
$ 10 million so that he could say this was caused
by American and Israeli foreign policy. From day one, I've
taken a very strong position against that because I knew
that would be the propaganda the Islamic extremists would use
because we fall for it. Too many Americans fall for
(15:43):
that Islamic propaganda, which is the reason they're taking over
certain parts of America and certain parts of Europe. They
have every desire to take us over. This is not,
they want to be just another religion. They want to
dominate us. That's what they're taught from the day they
begin their extremist religious education. Mandami is a clear supporter
(16:09):
of that. All of the Muslims he supports are murderers.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, he also claimed that Mamdani doesn't agree that September
11th was an Islamic terror attack on the United States
of America. He also, you had former New York Governor
George Pataki also called on Mamdani to stay home. He
said that the mayor was too close to people such
as far left influencer Hassan Piker, who has blamed America
(16:38):
for the terror, for the attack. He said, with respect
to the mayor, I think anyone who doesn't intentionally distance
themselves from Hassan Piker, who has said that America deserved
the attacks of 9-11, should not be there. Anyone who
has refused to reject the phrase globalize the intifada which
unequivocally calls for violence against Jews, not just in Israel,
but anywhere in the world, should not be at that site.
(17:00):
I think Mamdani has two choices. Reject those extremist views
against America and calling for violence against Jews, or voluntarily
decide it's not in the families and the victims' interest
for him to be there. Here's the thing. You know
he's going to be there, because like that pen, he
wants to shove it in everyone's faces. Coming up on
the other side, I have to play for you this
one piece of audio that moved me. I welled up
(17:23):
a little bit. I got a little teary-eyed. That was
part of the celebration today, the memorial today at the
White House.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Hey, welcome back. All right, we're talking about 9-11, and
I have to share this with you. I have to
share this with you. Okay. And you can tag me
to post on X at Mary Walter Radio if you
want to jump in, 877-377-4300. 73. And Yitzhak, who I
know used to live in New York, made this is incredible.
He said the pen was a setup of Jessica Tisch,
(17:58):
the head of the NYPD. He made her a Jewish
female give the pen to a male Muslim who's a jihadi.
The Muslims love symbolism. They hate women and more so
a Jewish woman. So he made her submit, take a
knee for Islam. Wow. I did not put that together
(18:21):
at all, but he did. He made her as a
Jewish woman pass that pen to a Muslim man who
defended a jihadi and has connections.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yitzhak, that's very interesting. And thank you for bringing that up.
I didn't realize that. So, all right. So I want
to play this. This is cut nine. This is Frank Siller,
the head of the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. He's the CEO.
And his brother, Stephen, died, as we know, on 9-11.
(18:59):
He put on 60 pounds of gear and ran through the,
I think it was the Manhattan Midtown Tunnel. no, it
wouldn't have been the Midtown tunnel. Uh, the Brooklyn battery tunnel.
I think, yeah, Brooklyn battery tunnel is what he, what
he ran through and it's two miles cause he couldn't
get in. So he put his gear on, he had
left for the night. He was on the night shift.
He left and he, he came back and he got
as close as he could left his car and, and
(19:20):
off he went running. Now, uh, it, a little backdrop.
He had, he's the youngest of, I think like nine
or something like that. Like a lot of brothers, older
brothers and sisters. And there's a big age difference. He
was the bonus baby. And, His parents died when he
was young, like when he was like eight years old. First,
his dad died. And then a year and a half later,
his mother passed away from cancer. So his older siblings
(19:43):
raised him.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So that's part of this backstory. And I could not live.
I was watching all this. of this live and I
had to get a tissue. So anyway, we're going to
share part of this. But if you have a chance
to look up the entire speech, it's like five minutes.
I highly recommend it. This is just this is more
than half. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
When he was almost 11 years old, I spent the
day with him. It was right after we lost our parents.
And he questioned his very existence. He said to me, Frankie,
why did Mommy and Daddy have to die? I wish
I was never born. I said, Steven, don't say that.
(20:23):
Mommy and Daddy love you so much, they brought you
into this world. And your brothers and sisters, we will
always be there for you, and we will never let
you down. And I don't know why Mommy and Daddy
had to die. But I know God put you on
this earth for a reason, and one day you will
do something very special.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, I think he did something very special. He grew up.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
He came, lived with me when he was 18 years old,
got reacquainted with the little girl he used to walk
to school with every single day when he was eight,
nine years old.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
They fall in love. They get married. They have their
first kid. They have their second kid. They have a house.
He becomes a firefighter. They have their third kid, their
fourth kid, their fifth kid. He's on top of the world.
He has everything he ever wanted. He's married. The love
of his life. Five beautiful children. The love of his
(21:21):
siblings and nephews and nieces. The brotherhood. The brotherhood of
the fire department. meant the world to him. He was
on top of the world. He had everything he ever wanted.
He was the happiest he ever was in his life.
And he works his night shift.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
On September 10th. On September 11th, on the way home
to play golf with us, he had a call to duty.
Just like so.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Many out here would have a call to duty in one.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Second like that. You would put your life on the line.
He went back to his firehouse. He got his gear.
He drove to the mouth of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel.
It was closed for security reasons. He strapped 60 pounds
of gear on his back, and he ran through that tunnel,
which is almost two miles long. He came out, went
up West Street, grabs a hook off a fire truck,
(22:17):
and they say, Scylla, put that back. He laughs. He
runs with it. He was on a mission. He goes
into the South Tower. He's running up those stairs. And
like so many heroes that day, while saving others, he
gave up his life. At 9.59 a.m., I was sitting
(22:37):
in my living room with my mother-in-law, and I turned
to her when the South Tower fell down, and I said, Nancy,
I think I just lost my brother. I went to
so many different firehouses trying to find out, where was Steven?
Where was Steven? I was calling, where was Steven? Finally,
we brought my whole family together at my house. And
in the afternoon, I got a call from Richie Obermeyer,
(22:59):
a firefighter that had lived a few doors from my
brother Steven. He said to me, Frank, he's down at
Ground Zero. He says, Frank, Steven's on a list of
missing firefighters, and it's really bad down here.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I said, yes, I know, Rich. We're all looking. We're
in my living room. We're all looking. And he goes, no,
it's really bad down here. I says, Rich, I could
see it. He goes, no, Frank, you don't understand. Nobody's
coming home.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And then he he goes on to recount how he
had to then go and tell Stephen's wife and his
kids that. That their father was gone, which is what,
you know, Stephen went through that when he was a kid.
It was just so powerful. And what they're doing is
the Steel Across America tour. And it was at the Ellipse.
(23:49):
And this is where the ceremony took place. And they
also have pictures of all of the first responders who
lost their lives in the 9-11 terrorist attack. And they're
really big and they have them on these pillars. And
it was just lining the walkway at the ellipse. And
then they had this big, huge piece of steel. They
had it blessed today. And it was just so, so powerful.
(24:14):
And I think we have done such a disservice to
the next generation by not telling them about it. 877-377-4373
if you want to jump in. Let's head to New York. Hey, Sean, welcome.
You're on the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Hi, and I'm glad we're all talking about 9-11 because
it's very important never to forget. I can tell you
I went down there on 9-11, down to the Trade Center.
You can only go as far as Canal Street, what
you call. I saw guys coming out of their cars.
They were off-duty police, off-duty firemen. And what happened that
(24:55):
day should have never happened. Because of open borders, every
enemy of America was inside our country. But I just
want to say something else, because those firemen who died
that day, they're warriors. But also, last year, before Thanksgiving,
Sarah Beckstrom, a female national guard woman, was murdered by
(25:16):
an Afghan freak. And I got to tell people, I
was told something unusual was going on two weeks after 9-11.
So I went out to Kennedy Airport. Nobody was flying.
But I noticed hundreds upon hundreds of people from Afghanistan
were coming into this country. I asked the workers there,
do we know who these people are? They didn't know
(25:37):
who they are. But we now know who one of
them was. His name is Lockham Wilde. He's the one
who murdered Sarah Beckstrom a day before Thanksgiving last year.
Speaker 10 (25:47):
So if we don't close the borders legally and illegally,
this country is done. And I want to build churches
in Saudi Arabia, and I want to sell country ham
down in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
That's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You know what, though? I have to tell you, I
know you're in New York. What the hell happened in
the mayoral election? I think he's gone. I think he's gone.
What happened in the mayoral election? Now, they're saying that
because of all of this, that Bruce... And thank you
for your call, Sean. You're going to hear that kind
of anger from people. You are, because of what happened.
(26:25):
You're going to hear it. Bruce Blankman is the Republican
running against Governor Kathy Hochul, and he's not that far
behind her. He's actually doing quite well. And they're saying
that because of all of this, everything that's happening, that...
You may very well see a Republican take the governorship
of New York, which would be amazing. All right, more coming.
(26:48):
We'll try to end it, lighten it up, coming up
a little bit here because we're going to talk about
the Democrat Socialist Convention that they just had. And it's
kind of entertaining. So we'll talk about that next on
The Jesse Kelly Show. You're listening to The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And we are back. We are so back.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So socialism, 2026, did you miss it? It ended yesterday
in Chicago. What a great city to have a, have
a conference in, especially for socialism. And so this clown
car of insanity, uh, all gathered in one place. And
it was very, it was a lot of fun if
you're on the outside looking in and you have a
lot of popcorn and a couple of beers. So I
(27:34):
went to their, their page, the socialism conference.org and looked
at their 2026 schedule. And it's fun. Cause you can,
you can, filter it based on different things for like
culture and art. On Friday, they had sing, struggle, organize,
movement songs, political education, and collective power. Cause you know
how much fun it is when these people sing. Tone
(27:57):
deaf as all heck and they always, somebody's always got
a drum.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And then after that was introduction to the theater of
the oppressed. I'm sorry, but I find that hilarious. You
also could have sat in on songs for liberation. Art
and propaganda. I'm learning from Paul Robeson and why the
(28:22):
artist must take sides. No, must only take one side.
Let's see. Building community resources. Poetry for the people. Creating
your own community-based poetry workshop. uh neo future the neo-futurists
present the infinite wrench okay let's see what else do
(28:46):
we have um oh gender sexuality and liberation gender and
accumulation sex for pleasure controller controlling your reproduction under a
pronatalist regime i will tell you in all honesty i
don't even know what I would say about 30% of
what the words are in any of this. I have
(29:06):
no idea because they speak their own language and I
refuse to learn it. I just absolutely refuse. Unsafe, the
carceral roots of the anti-trans backlash. organizing under hostile state
governments we are each other's liberation so very very fun
so so with some of the audio coming out of
it so let's just start with cut 18 all right
(29:27):
now the person who is giving this speech by the
way they all had masks on every single one of
them had masks on some of had two masks on
because they are just so beta and the physical shape
of most of them if they get a good flu
they're out right so um this person was obese of
course and wearing a mask uh giving this little talk
(29:47):
here it's only a minute long here we go.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
The fantasy of being fitter than the fascists It's not
just that it's cringe or strategically bad, though it is.
I think it's also politically revealing. Fitness is a measure
of relative disposability under capitalism. Our task is not to
(30:13):
become less disposable, to become more useful to the ruling order.
What we all need to be doing is rejecting disposability
in all of its forms. The point is not to
beat the fascists at their own game. It is not
to lay a better claim on their own territory by
(30:34):
being fitter.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
More eugenic.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
In fact, the more disgenic, the better, I think. Revolution
is not a contest between optimized and properly prepared bodies.
That idea is fascist in and of itself and erases
the history of less struggles around the world.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
First of all, that was not, that was not the,
the obese person. Um, she's, she's thin, so I have
to get, you know, that's fine, but I don't understand
what about 40% of the words where they're dysgenic, eugenic, whatever. And, um,
but I do want to, so I don't understand that,
but I want to get to, Oh, um, cut 19.
Let's try that. I think this is, I think this
is the one cause you can almost hear them breathing
(31:17):
heavily under the mask.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
The political deployment of GLP-1s is fascistic, not because individuals
take them, but because the conditions under which they become
necessary are shaped by a world fixated on genociding fat people.
This is a structural critique that asks, what happens when
the conditions produced by capitalism, by public health, by the
state apparatus, and by anti-black desire align around a single
(31:43):
bodily ideal that leaves little to no room for divergence
and punishes any body that does? Whereas earlier diet drugs
were often associated with vanity or addiction, GOP1s are positioned
as responsible medicine, promising relief rather than restraint. But to
understand why the deployment of GOP1s is fascistic requires turning
(32:04):
to Frantz Fanon's account of black flesh under colonial surveillance.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Okay, so that's the guy. That's a heavy guy. But
what he's saying there is being fit is fascistic. It's fascistic.
And he's also saying that if you're black, you're just
naturally heavy. And I happen to know that that's not true.
I know plenty of people who are of color who
are not obese and overweight because they take care of themselves.
And we don't have time. I don't think we have time.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Oh, we do. We do.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let's do the last one. This one, this one talks
about healing, like your mental health healing. Listen to what
they have to say about actually, you know, healing your
brain and moving forward and getting over a trauma in life.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (32:45):
In lefty space, we can have this insidious, accidental, small
bubbling up of health fascism when we talk about healing.
And we say, OK, come together for a ritual of
healing and care. And we have to be really careful
about what healing actually means and what we're offering. And
I found over and over again in space over time
(33:07):
during Metro Surge that folks were not looking for healing.
What they actually wanted was support and care together in
ritual collectively, sitting with the cracks, sitting with the bones,
sitting with the aftermath of the explosion, sitting there in
the dark together, not trying to get better, not trying
to get past it, not even grieving if we weren't
(33:29):
yet able to grieve, but sitting in the horror together.
And that kind of slowing down enough, slowing down enough
together to not be grasping at, desperately grasping at the
world that we hoped would be emerging soon. But instead,
being here now with the broken pieces was a recurring
(33:55):
theme and is still a recurring theme.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
You have to sit with the bones. It's just ridiculous.
But there's so much fun audio out there. So have fun.
Hit the internet and check it out. I'm Mary Walter.
You can check me out at Mary Walter Radio on
Facebook and on X. My podcast, Tuesday nights, 7.15 p.m.
Eastern Time. It is live on YouTube, Rumble, and Getter.
(34:19):
Look for Mary Walter Radio. Audio is on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
and Spreaker. Again, look for Mary Walter Radio. Tomorrow, 7.05 a.m.
Eastern on Newsmax. You can catch me there. Thank you
so much for having me, everyone. Thank you, Chris, for
all your help. And tomorrow, Kelly Nash is in for
Jesse on The Jesse Kelly Show.
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