December 3, 2024 • 47 mins
(Full Show) President Joe Biden has pardoned his son Hunter Biden, despite pledging not to. Jesse Kelly explains what's really going on here and why it happened now, along with reaction from lawyer May Mailman. This comes as President Trump has made his choice for the next FBI director. Two FBI whistleblowers, Steve Friend & Garret O'Boyle, join Jesse to reveal how they feel about the pick. Plus, Trump is already using tariffs as a trade negotiation tactic. Will it backfire? Jesse discusses with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Joe Biden pardoned his son. We'll talk about that. We
have a new FBI director. I hope we have a
couple FBI guys here to address that.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All that tariffs and more coming up, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right okay, so late last night the news you are
well aware of by now, late last night Joe Biden,
kind of odd to do it on a Sunday, decided
to go out and pardon his son.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now, let's get past all the.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Things you already know, the things you've already heard all
day long. Yes, I am aware he said repeatedly that
he wasn't going to We're always out there saying things
like this.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
As we sit here in Normandy, your son Hunter is
on trial. And I know that you cannot speak about
an ongoing federal prosecution, but let me ask you. Will
you accept the jury outcome? They're verdict no matter what
it is. Yes, And have you ruled out a pardon
for your son?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes? Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I could sit here and play you the things you've
seen all day long, the montages of Joe saying I
won't and the media is saying he won't. Let's get
past all that you already know, all that Joe Biden
lied and said he wasn't going to pardon his son.
I'm going to tell you why this pardon is a
good thing in a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Just hang with me. But first of all, let's cover this.
Let's cover this.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Joe Biden is a liar and has always been a liar.
And as I used to say repeatedly back when he
was still pretending to be the President of the United
States of America, Joe Biden is as amazing as this
is the biggest liar in the history of the United
States presidency. No other president, Republican or Democrat, has come close.
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And I say this as someone who knows all politicians lie,
all presidents lie. They all do they will shade the
truth and manipulate this. Joe Biden, for his entire career,
has not shaded the truth. He's one of these sociopaths.
You've probably known one or two in your life. A
complete sociopath. I used to work with a guy who
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lied all the time, and they used to say about
him that he would rather climb up the tree to
tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell
the truth. That's Joe Biden. He didn't shade the truth.
He has repeatedly told these gigantic, easily verifiable lies, and
he does so with a straight face. There's video going
back decades of Joe Biden saying I was at the
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top of my law school, and then of course that's
easy to verify. Everyone can look at the papers. You
weren't even close to the top of the law school.
He said he taught the Second Amendment in college as
a professor. He never taught a single class as a professor.
He said he had a football scholarship. He said bo
Biden has died in every war from World War Two
to Korea to the war in Iraq. Biden tells gigantic,
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verifiable lies because Joe Biden is a sociopath, a criminal,
and a scumbag, and has done so so many times
throughout history that if Joe Biden told me water was wet,
I would just naturally assume it became dry. Joe Biden
is a liar, so like you, I never believed this anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Let's get past all that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Let's first of all address why this is in a
way a good thing. You see, on a little level,
which we'll get to to father pardoning his son. We'll
talk about why in a moment, But on a macro level,
this is obviously bad for the country. It is the
country as a whole. If you zoom out thirty thousand
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foot view and you look.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's terrible. It's terrible for the country America.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Americans, Republican and Democrat, and everybody in the middle woke
up today and saw the news that they didn't see
it last night. And virtually every single one of them
unless you're a paid Democrat, and I realize there are
many of those in the media and otherwise, but unless
you're a paid communist tact everybody looked at this news.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And thought a lot completely corrupt. Wait, that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Hold on, he gave him a blanket pardon for the
span of like eleven years.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That's awful.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Even Democrats like Michael Bennett, Michael Bennet's a Democrat senator,
came out and said, ah, this looks bad.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay, So everyone woke up.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Everybody, normies, Democrats, Republicans woke up today and thought.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Ah, that looks bad. It's kind of iggy.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So why would this in any way be a good thing. Well,
remember legitimacy. Legitimacy the faith you give the faith the
citizen gives to corrupt, evil institutions.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That is the power, that is the juice.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Those institutions you to hurt you. You see, if you
have faith in the FBI, if you're still one of
these losers out there, they're great better women at the FBI,
you're actually committing an act of evil because you're legitimizing
evil and you're enabling evil. So it's really important that
you don't give them legitimacy. It's more important that people
wake up and realize the FBI is evil. We'll get
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to the cash matel talking a little bit. So back
to Joe Biden. The Democrat Party is evil. They're run
by corrupt, evil communists now. And while that may have
been very obvious to you because you watch this show
on a regular basis, I'm sure you read things, watch things.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Listen to things.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
For many, many, many normal Americans, they haven't completely gotten
to that realization yet. And while I don't celebrate that
the Democrat Party is now completely evil, it is a
good thing if the American people wake up today and
realize that it robs these evil people, this.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Evil regime of legitimacy.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So now the next time they get up behind the
podium and tell a lie, which they will do. They
lie as easy as they breathe. The lies simply won't
have enough legs because they've lost more and more legitimacy.
In a way, a weird, twisted way, I'm almost kind
of happy that Joe Biden pardoned Hunter. I'm not surprised
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by it in the least. Told you this was coming.
Everyone knew this was common, not surprised by it in
the least. And now the American people are waking up
to the fact that these people are evil. They lie
about everything, and laws never apply to them. They don't
think they should apply to them. Now back to the laws.
Why did Joe Biden do this? Why did Joe Biden
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pardon his son? Well, remember that old video, Joe Biden.
We've played it for you a bunch on the show.
But Joe Biden, it's almost bizarre. Really, these politicians try
to keep their corruption hidden. But Joe Biden, on camera,
in a room full of people, stood up and bragged
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about having a prosecutor fired.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I had gotten a commitment from Porshenko and from yatsun
Yuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor
and they didn't, so they said they had. They were
walking out to press comt. I said, no, I said,
I'm not going to We're not going to give you
the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority, you're
not the president. The president said, I said, call him.
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I said, I'm telling you're not getting a billion dollars.
I said, you're not getting a billion. N I'm gonna be
leaving here. And I think it was what six hours.
I looked at I said, I'm leaving the six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh,
son of them got fired.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You see, this pardon is a blanket pardon and a
backdated pardon. Why did Joe Biden want that prosecutor fired
so badly? Because that prosecutor was investigating a company maybe
you've heard of. It's called Barisma. Barisma, that's the company,
the Ukrainian company that hired Hunter Biden to sit on
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its board eighty plus thousand dollars a month. Why would
a foreign energy company hire Hunter Biden to sit on
its board when Hunter Biden himself has no energy experience
whatsoever to speak of.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, everyone knows you don't have to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
They hired him because Joe Biden was delivering something, something
to these people. You don't just pay eighty three thousand
dollars a month to Hunter Biden so he can snort
lines a co co coff. Youe secretary, You hire Hunter
Biden so you have access to then Vice President Joe Biden.
You see, Joe Biden is a criminal that he comes
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from an entire criminal family. The reason you backdate this
pardon and deliver such a blanket pardon as not because
of your a love father to your dirt ball crackhead son.
You give this pardon out because your son knows where
all the bodies are buried in a dirt ball like
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Hunter Biden is not going to go away to federal
prison for ten fifteen years without speaking up your hand
your son a pardon not because he's your boy, but
because he's your criminal accomplice. You see, and this comes
back to what I was talking about earlier, in a weird,
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twisted way. I'm glad he did it because these people
are evil, they're liars, they're criminals, they're corrupt, and you
already knew that. You knew that yesterday, right, you knew
that yesterday morning, before the Hunter Biden pardon came down,
you already knew that.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But we're not worried about you. We're worried about your.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Normy neighbor who still says things like the great men
and women are the f B I, your Norman neighbor,
needs to wake up and realize you the United States
government is an evil, criminal, corrupt organization. And when we
wake up and find out Joe Biden backdated an eleven
year pardon for his scumbags son, it helps your normy
neighbor realize that fact, and in a weird way, that
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helps us, and it's a good thing. All that may
have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. We have
so much to get to tonight, cash but tell stuff
tariff talk. Before we get to any of that, let's
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Speaker 2 (11:15):
We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome
an addiction.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
He is.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He's one of the brightest, most decent men I know.
And I am satisfied that I'm not gonna do anything
I said. I advide by the jury decision, and I
will do that, and I will not partner him.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Sometimes sometimes since he always hides on the beach, now,
sometimes I forget that the president is not even a
functional adult.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Then we play these old videos.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Donald was anyway, he pardoned him, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But a lot of people don't really.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
This wasn't the first kind of blanket get out of
jail free card. Hunter almost got in recent memory joining
me now talk about that in some other things. May Mailman,
director of the wonderful independent women's Law Center.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Hey, may people forget about what.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Mister David Weiss whatever his dumb name is, and the
thing he tried to pull when he was supposed to
be prosecuting Hunter.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
So this is take two.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Take one was there was supposed to be a plea
deal where Hunter Biden said, I plead guilty to nothing,
essentially like I apologize for nothing, and in exchange for that,
he was going to get immunity a deal with the government,
so basically doing it through contract, where here this is
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through executive fiat. Now, if you remember the last time
a judge had some questions, wait, so is this plea
deal covering just the related crimes that are being investigated
or is this everything? And the kind of said, oh,
we can't say out loud, it's everything. So they said
it was just these crimes, and Hunter Biden said no, no, no,
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that's not what you agreed to earlier. So the deal
fell through before. And I used to think that Hunter
was stupid. He should have just taken the limited deal before.
But now he's out of jail anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
May you are educated.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I am stupid, so I need you to lay something
out for me, because it really get confused when it
comes to this legal stuff. It's this blanket part and
everyone's talking about it today covers pretty much eleven years.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think it's ten, but.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
If you look at the dates, it's eleven years and it's.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
A backdated part. So what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
As in, if we find out that Hunter Biden murdered
the babysitter back in twenty eighteen, is he covered?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
There?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Is this like a just blanket get out of jail
free card? Are there a specific list of crimes? How
does this work?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
It's a blanket pardon, so it would cover everything, but
it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Cover so but a couple of things.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
So one it doesn't cover state crimes, so the federal
government is not in charge of state governments. And then two,
it doesn't cover new crimes arising out of things that
might have been pardoned. So let's just say he did
murder somebody and then he gets questioned about it and
he lies on the standard, you know, something like that,
like you can still be held accountable for perjury. So
(14:30):
like Hunter Biden is going to live a long life
after this. I don't know whether he's going to be
able to stay out of trouble. So it really does.
It ends on the date that it ends. But yeah,
this is this is ridiculously sweeping.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay, how ridiculous is it? May have we seen things
like this before? I personally can't remember having seen anything
like this before.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But is this something that's been done? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I mean I I'm sure that there is some sort
of constitutional pardon expert who could tell you, maybe for
pardons for people who are already dead, just clearing their
name something like that.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
These are sort of symbolic.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I would imagine that there are full and unconditional pardons,
but for somebody who has lived a life of crime,
who has cheated the American taxpayer out of their money,
who has been involved in bribery schemes with the federal government,
for people who are unregistered foreign agents like Hunter Biden is,
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you know, appears to be no like he is.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
This is one of one for that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, Man, let's shift gears here, because there are other
things going on besides the President and his.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Dirt ball son.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Let's talk about the culture wars stuff, because you have
been all over this stuff, specifically dudes pretending to be
chicks and beating up women in sports.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Where are we in all this?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Well, I mean the men are still beating up women
in sports, although sometimes the women win.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So if you.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Are following the San Jose State University women's volleyball team,
Boise State didn't even participate in the championship because they
didn't want to risk well, A, they wanted to say
women's sports, and B they didn't want their women to
have to get a ball smash in their face and
then they get paralyzed for life like Peyton McNabb. And
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so yes, the NC double A, the Biden administration, federal
regulations are still putting men in women's sports. But luckily
there was an election and there's going to be a
new sheriff in charge. So I think you're going to
very immediately see changes in the federal government. The question then,
is what was some of these private entities, like the
Soccer Federation, these the sport bodies governing the Olympics, governing volleyball,
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these types of things, whether they're going to act.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
To may Donald Trump's out to be president of the
United States here and I don't know, like a month
and a half month and twenty days at give or
take What impact can he have on all this stuff,
all the Title nine stuff. What power does the president
have to affect change in this area? Because it is
really gross. That story about Peyton is just unbelievably awful.
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I can't believe we allow that stuff in this country.
But what power does Trump have and what power do
you think he will use to get this stuff switched around?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
So I think on day one you have the Department
of Education, which yes, does need to be eliminated, but
it's not going to happen on day one.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
So what are they going to do? On day one?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
They are going to save women's sports and save women's spaces.
The Office of Civil Rights there launches investigations and they
see whether universities are discriminating on the basis of race
or discriminating on the basis of sex, and if universities,
if colleges, if daycares are not providing safe spaces for women,
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then should be investigated and they should have their federal
funding pull. So I think the Apartment of Education can
immediately launch an investigation. I'm going to say San Jose
state number one, Western Carolina University should be number two.
That's where Peyton McNabb currently goes and she does not
have access to a women's bathroom there.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
They won't give her. They say men can go into
the women's.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Bathrooms, all right, and then you've got to do the
harder work of rewriting the regulations. So I know that
the public is smart and they think that, oh if
the federal if we voted for Trump, that means that
the regulation can change.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Unfortunately, the way that the government works is that a
bunch of lawyers have to come together and they have
to give all of these reasons for taking down the
Biden rule. Then they have to put a new regulation up.
It has to have a comment period, they have to
receive hundreds of thousands of comments, they have to sift
through those, they have to do a new so anyway, eventually,
I think then you're going to see a new Title
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nine role. But that's that unfortunately, can't be a day
one action, right.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's the last thing we need is a bunch of
you lawyers coming together. May thank you so much for
what you do, though, appreciate it all right, Cash Batel,
we got what we wanted. We hope Cash Bateel is
being put up as the next FBI director.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Who is he? Do you know him? We have a
couple former FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Agents heroes of mind to be frank and I don't
say that about many people who gave up their careers
at the FBI because how evil it's become.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Let's talk to them about Cash. Do they love him?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
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the AFBI agent's former next, Cash Battel. Obviously I know
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who Cashptel is. You watch this show on any kind
of a regular basis, you're probably somebody who knows Cash
Pattel is. But let's assume maybe you don't came out
over the weekend. Trump says, Hey, Cash Betel is going
to be my guy to lead the FBI.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I didn't mean for that to rhyme, but I'm glad
did so. Here's a little snippet of who Cash Pattel is.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
The FBI's footprint has gotten so frickin' big, and the
biggest problem the FBI has had has come out of
its intel shops. I'd break that component out of it.
I'd shut down the FBI Hoover building on day one
and reopening the next day as a museum of the
Deep State. And I'd take the seven thousand employees that
work in that building and send them across America to
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chase down criminals, Go be cops, your cops.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
That sounds wonderful to me. What does Steve and Garrett
think about that?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Joining me now?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Two FBI whistleblowers, And as I said, I don't have
many people I look up to, but I so respect
people who gave it all up to expose to check out.
Steve Friend, Garrett Oboyle join me. What do they think
That's a little bit more important than what I think
about it? Okay, Garrett, let's begin with you.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Cash Pattel. Do you like it? You hate it? What
is it? I love it?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Jesse, thanks for having me back on. I appreciate it.
Two years ago, when people first started hearing about Steve
Friend and Garrett Boyle, I wouldn't have guessed that it
would have gotten to this point where Cash Barttel Barring
getting confirmed will be the next FBI director.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You couldn't make this stuff up in a fiction book,
and if if.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
You put it in a fiction book, nobody would read
it because it would be so unbelievable. But from my
perspective being now, let's see into my twenty seventh month
of an indefinite suspension for making protective disclosures to Congress,
I couldn't be happier about this selection.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, that says a lot to me, Steve, what say you?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I'm in whole agreement with Garrett on this one. Look,
kesh Bertel reached out independently to him and I through
his charitable foundation when we were in our most dire situation,
very much like you did for me, Jesse. That to
me shows the measure of a man. He did not
ask for any accolades, earning recognition to just the character
quality that that exudes, that fidelity, bravery, and integrity, the
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actual unofficial model of the FBI. And then beyond that,
he's uper qualified and competent. He has a background and
not just a jsock prosecutor and working on the House
selectivity and intelligence, but he was actually a public defender
as well, both at the local and the federal level.
He brings that sort of experience looking at both sides
of it, the respect for the process, the respect for
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civil liberties, and he's just also represents a turning of
the generation as well. Cash is a pretty young guy.
I believe that he's going to be the best option
if we're going to have any sorts of renovation of
the FBI and I'm so firmly in the camp the
dissolution and shattering it to a thousand pieces is ultimately
what it would come down to. But if we have
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one chance, one civil lining here, I think Casper tells
a man to get it done.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's music to my ears. Garrett, let me ask you
about what Steve just said. I'm obviously of the belief
that you cannot reform it. You can't save it. Once
an institution, especially government one, gets this bad, it has
to go away. But you've been inside the building.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I've never been inside the building.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm sure I probably will be next time a Democrat
gets elected.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But what what say you? Can it be reformed? Can
it be safe?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Can someone like Cash go in there and turn it
into what it's supposed to be, what you two signed.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Up to do in there?
Speaker 8 (24:25):
You know, Jesse, I've long believed that it couldn't be reformed,
that it needed to be shattered and scattered into a
thousand pieces. And like that clip you played from Cash,
turn the Uberbuilding into a museum of the deep State. Now,
if there is any hope for it, it's going to
take strong leadership from the top down, and there certainly
are people in the FBI in those position, positions as
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we speak, that want nothing to do with Cash Mattel,
and they want the FBI to be the modern day
American Stazi. Hopefully Cash can turn it around, and hopefully
there are enough people in the institution left who want
to do the right thing. I struggle with that too,
because you look at Steve and I and a couple
others who have come forward, and now suddenly we are
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hearing murmurings from inside the FBI that so many people
are happy about this selection as we are.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
But where were they the last few years.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
If everybody who leaned into their cowardice for all these years,
if they all would have stood up and said, hey,
this agency has broken, it needs to be fixed, it
would already been fixed.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So I have my.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Reservations, and I know some of these deep state apparatrics
are going to try to thwart a directorship by Cash Pttel,
and many are already hard at work to do that.
But at the same time, I've been already contacted by
a number of my former colleagues who are excited about
this selection, and so maybe, just maybe there's a little
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bit of hope for the FBI. But I'm not holding
my breath quite yet.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'm not either.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Hope is not a plan as they say and speak
of those deep state types.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I hope nobody watching things.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
They all have a D before their title, because there
are plenty of our types there, like one Mike Rounds.
Let's talk about the possibility of to tell getting confirmed,
because I can't help but think about this South Dakota
Senator Mike Rounds saying things like this.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
Chris Ray, you know who the President nominated the first
time around. And I think the President picked a very
good man to be the director of the FBI when
he did that in his first term. When we meet
with him behind closed doors, I've had no objections to
the way that he's handled himself, and so I don't
have any complaints about the way that he's done his job.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Right now, Steve, I hear things like that, and it
disheartens me, brother, because I say to myself, these people
are never going to allow any reformers through. It doesn't
matter pick a name, call it cash for now, they're
not gonna be able to get through.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Let's say you.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Well, obviously, Mike Rounds approves of Christopher Ray's FBI as
went after Catholics who went to the Latin Mass, or
moms who went to a school board meeting to express
displeasure with critical race theory being taught to their children,
or Christopher Ray's FBI which reassigned me from investigating child
pornography and told me that it was not a priority
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going forward. And then I really needed to focus on
the elderly women that were there on January sixth, or
imprisoned concentration camp survivors who were praying outside of an
abortion clinic. But you know, he's got really nice hair
and he comes off really well, So we approve that
Mike grounds from the blood red state of South Dakota
just yet another one of the low T GOP examples
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exhibit a right there of why we have a primary
process that needs to get these guys out of office,
because they just do not accept what time it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Is primary process. We have to start using a lot
better than we currently do. Garrett, speaking of whistleblowers, it
wasn't just people within the FBI who were going after
guys like you and Steve Democrat. Members of Congress made
it their mission to come after you, didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
They They sure did.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Jesse And as the story of the suspendables continues to unfold.
We learn a little bit, it seems every couple of months,
we get a little bit more information. And yes, they
they continue to come after me and others.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And maybe not that.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Many people will remember, but shortly after Steve and I
testified in May of twenty twenty three, some Democrats Jerry
Nadler and Stacey Plaskett, they referred me to the DOJ
for for criminal.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Charges regarding perjury and obstruction.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
And you know, fast forward to now, we're continuing to
learn a little bit more information about that and how
the FBI had a case open and they were subpoenaing
X for information related to my my ex account as
well as Kyle Sarafin's X account, and they even subpoenaed
my wife's.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Apple ID and information related to that.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
So we're still working through all that and trying to
figure out what comes next. And it's crazy that year,
two plus years of this and we're still in the
thick of this fight, and who knows. Hopefully by January
twenty first, we will see some real substantive change, not
only from a selfish perspective for myself and for Steve,
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but for this nation as a whole as it relates
to the FBI, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Well, I'm selfish for you guys too. I want some
freaking scouts. Let's hope we actually get those. Garrett, Steve
appreciate you both. It upsets me a great deal when warriors,
whatever the stripe, it's screwed by the people they fight for.
Has always bothered me. When it happens to guys in
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the military, bothers me. When it happens to hard chargers
in the FBI like that, it just it gets to
me rough.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Anyway, I hope they see justice one day.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right, We got to talk to Caro Off about
the terraces and the economy and all this brick stuff.
Before we get to that, Steve friend brought up an
important point there the low TGOP.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
The problem with people like Mike Rounds is not.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Just that they're losers and probably compromise with some sort
of blackmail material. The problem is their testosterone levels are
so low. And I know this because virtually every band's
is here in the country. We've lost fifty percent of
our testosterone in fifty years because of all the estrogens
and the waters and the plastic we freaking shower in
it now. We are just losing ourselves. So what do
(30:36):
you do about it? You have to do something. You
can't just let it go. It's not one of those things. Yeah,
we'll figure it out. No, No, you have to do something.
Chalk is what you do. Handle it naturally. I take
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Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So let's have some economic talks. Some of it you
may love, some of it you may hate. But we
have to discuss things like trade tariffs, things like that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Now, Donald Trump has been.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Using tariffs, or I should say specifically the threat of
tariffs to get our neighbors to be more neighborly, if
you will. We talked about this a bit last week. Canada, Mexico.
Trump's telling them, Hey, all those goods we buy from you, Yeah,
I'm gonna start slapping a big fatty tax on those
things if you don't stop the drugs and illegals from
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pouring into this country. Those freaking Canadians, we don't need
any more of them here. That aside, it was a threat,
and it's not about the tariff. It was about the threat.
Do better comply. Well, Donald Trump's not done using this threat.
He's now threatening the bricks nations. You know that alternate
to the dollar, because the dollar is the world's reserve currency.
Now Trump's out there saying you better drop all this
(32:12):
bricks business or a tariff's coming your way too. Let's
talk to Carol Roth about that. Joining me now, Carol
Roth owner owner. I guess maybe she owns them. I
should have said author, but we'll call her an owner,
an owner of this wonderful book.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Sure, she bought it. You will own nothing as the
name of the book. She wrote it. She wrote a
bunch of good books, Okay, Carol.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I'm not a huge tariff guy. I generally think that
that's kind of going after the symptom of a problem
instead of the route. I, however, am very fine with
the threat of tariffs on these scumbag countries.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It works for me. What say you.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Well, I think we're dealing with a little bit of
art of the deal here, Jesse. This is Trump blustering
and saying, these are the things that we might do,
and you're going to want to come to the table.
And what's great about Trump is that he's not your
typical politician. So if you're trying to deal with him
and you pull out the playbook that you're going to
use on Joe Biden or whoever it is that's running
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the country now and has been for the last four years,
that's not going to work. And even though you've seen
Trump before, he just is sort of a wild card,
so he could do something. He might not do it.
You don't know, but you probably don't want to find out.
And I think that's one thing that everybody likes. That
sort of surprise element gives him a little bit more
negotiating leverage. So I'm absolutely fine with him threatening all
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these kinds of things to get people to the negotiating table.
It sounds like that has worked already, perhaps in Mexico,
and probably you know, given the fact that Justin Trudeau
went down to mar A Lago, probably worked there a
little bit. So now he's going after the bricks. The
challenge with the bricks and the currency there, and the
bricks is sort of a conglomeration of nations Brazil, Russia, India, China,
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Saudi Arabia, and they've added a few of them folks
in the last couple of years. Is that they are
sort of a different animal. And when you start saying, oh,
you have to use the US dollar, you can't create
their own currency, the reality is that they haven't been
using their own currency. There was a lot of speculation
about it, but what they've been doing is they've been
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training more amongst each other in their own currencies, which
is going to be very difficult for the US to
say that you can't do that. In China, which is
obviously the big dog over there, they have been offering
credible settlement for any extra yuwan than anybody has and
saying that we'll let you settle that in gold, and
that's part of the reason why we've been seeing this
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price increase in gold. So when you think about the
bricks countries, in countries overall, they have been actually net
sellers of treasuries over the last ten years, So not
to say that they never buy any but on a
net basis they are selling more than they're taking in
because they just don't feel like, you know, everything being
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priced in dollars is good for them, because when oil
fluctuates wildly in dollars and food fluctuates wildly in dollars,
it hurts them from a national security perspective and just
an economic perspective. So they're looking to find a different way.
And the reality is that train has already left the station.
So you know, President Trump can come out and say this,
(35:24):
and you know, the US dollar has to be at
the center of everything, but he's not going to be
able to stop them from trading in their other currencies
or in gold, which by the way, has been what
has been replaced by all the treasuries that have not
been have been sold off. It's not that these countries
are buying other currencies for their reserves their buying goal.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I'm glad you brought that up, Koh, because that actually
brings me perfectly. We didn't plan this ahead, and I
swear everybody that brings me perfectly to the thirty six
trillion dollars in debt, the spending and printing insanity.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Of this country.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm fine with Donald Trump threatening these dirtball countries.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I don't like them. I hope he goes all in.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Sounds great to me, but the truth is something like bricks,
whether it's gold, silver, bricks or whatever, is an inevitability
if we don't get the dollar back where it needs
to be, and we can't do that unless we do
the one thing there seems to be no appetite whatsoever
for in Washington, and that's stopping the spending.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Right well, I think that that is what the Trump
administration is trying to do. They've brought on a whole
slew of very interesting characters, everybody from the Treasury secretary pick,
and obviously these folks need to be confirmed in many cases,
but Scott bess Into is the pick right now for
Treasury Secretary. He has a very interesting plan that he's floating,
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which is relying on growth as well as cutting spending.
And we've talked about this before. You have to have
the choreography because yes, we have seen a couple percentage
points and growth the GDP over the last few years,
but that's been propped up by deficits that run about
seven percent of our GDP. So if we were just
to slash that all all of a sudden, we would
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have a shrinkage and I'm not talking a Seinfeld shrinkage,
but a financial shrinkage and our GDP that would be really,
really horrible for the economy. So it needs to be
this clear choreography where you get the growth that you know,
lets the private sector grow more than the amount that
you're cutting, so that you have on a net basis,
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you know, what looks like a stronger economy. And Scott
Bessen has a three three three plan. It sounds a
little familiar from the past, but it's a little bit
different where he's looking at trying to have three percent
growth while cutting the deficit to GDP to three percent,
which again, given the fact that it's seven ish, that
that's more than half and that's like a twenty twenty
(37:55):
eight goal. Because he knows that this needs to happen,
he also wants to increase oil production an additional three
plus million barrels a day, again to sort of spark
the growth. But there needs to be this choreography between
all these different efforts, because as much as you and
I would just like to know Javier Melay and go
in there and slash everything, we cannot do things in
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the same way we did things in the nineteen eighties.
In the nineteen eighties, debt to GDP was at thirty percent.
Today it's at one hundred and twenty percent. We don't
have the flexibility in order to do things the same way.
So this needs to be done very carefully. And I,
for one, feel very relieved that we have some adults
in the room here understanding this and saying we know
(38:37):
what needs to be done, but it needs to be
done thoughtfully in order for it to be done the
right way and not have adverse impacts.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Where do they cut, Carol, I'm not a child. I
understand that the holy grails of these big federal entitlement
programs are not going to see a single penny cut.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I get all that. No politician going to touch that.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
So if we're not touching those pieces of the pie,
what kind of the pie is leaving?
Speaker 6 (39:07):
So I think it's obviously wasteful of you know, nondiscretionary
spending that you're going to have cut. There is plenty
of places that are wasteful, even in something like the
Defense Department, and we want to have strong defense department.
We know all kinds of money goes missing all the time,
so we need to be able to hone in on that.
(39:29):
And we've got some really good names again and Elon
Musk and Vivek that are going to be looking at
this trying to see where these areas of waste are.
You know, one thing that would be nice too is
to have a better interest rate so we didn't have
so much debt. That would be a good place where
we could hopefully cut over time. But I'm not sure
we're going to see that either, Jesse. But again, you
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know this entitlement piece, which you and I both know
needs to be touched eventually, that's not going to happen
this round. I think that Scott best sent has even said,
you know, that's for the JD. Vans twenty twenty eight,
you know, running for the country. That's going to happen
the next time around. We just need to start moving
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things away from this horrible place that we're at now
and hopefully over time if we can cut out all
of the wasteful spending and get the government back to Yes,
we have these crazy entitlement programs, but you know there's
not all of this other insane spending from shrimps walking
on treadmills to you know, waste in different departments, and frankly,
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there are entire departments that should just be cut in
their entirety that we can then start to have a
serious conversation about what the next level is. This is
not something that's going to be happening overnight, but what
I'm looking for is that movement in the right direction.
And I think that movement in the direct right direction
will inspire confidence that we are on the track to
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get there and allow more flexibility, more optimist, more investment.
We're hiring all those things because we do need that
growth piece in order for any of this to work.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I still him to drop that hot potato in jd
Vance's last Okay, Kerrol it is it is the Christmas
season or you know, honkah for you people, and you
have a message about that about small businesses, So.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Go ahead, yeah, us people like the small business owners.
It's takka for us. I sell it. By the way,
I celebrate Christmas too, Jesse. Just so you know, my
dad didn't want us to be left out, so we
always hung our stockings for Santa. But because we were
the like lived in an entirely Jewish neighborhood. We were
the only people that Santa came for, and so people say,
(41:42):
why did Santa come to your house? And I'd be like, well,
obviously he just likes us and he must not like you.
So so Santa and I go way back. We still
hang our stacking for Santa. But at any rate, good
we want to we want to support the backbone of
the economy. We want to do that all year round,
and definitely this holiday season. This is the time of
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year for many small businesses, especially in your community. You
know those stores on main Street where this will make
or break whether or not they're in the red or
black this year. Also on our website, which I see
that you're showing right now, we do have our own
small business gift guide, So if you're not sure what
small businesses to support, it's a great way to start
at Carolroth dot com and click on community and you
(42:24):
can see we've got more than sixty small businesses that
we feature. But you know, every dollar that you spend
in your local community, I think it's more than seventy
cents stays in that local community. So it's a really
good way to show your support locally as well. And
we have consumers who are still spending this holiday season.
Black Friday we saw I think it was the early estimates,
(42:47):
over three percent overall, much more chilted towards online than
the stores. So you know, people are shifting their behaviors,
but they haven't run out of cash yet, Jesse. They
may be you know I read in Dead's and dipping
into their savings, but they're going to have a good
Christmas Honakhr, whatever holiday that they're celebrating this season.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I really want you to do that. I really want
you to go to Carol Roth dot com click on community.
This is something obviously we joke, but we both really
really believe in this. Patronize your small businesses, these evil corporations.
You leave them alone as much as possible, keep your
money in your community. Carol, Thank you, ma'am. As always,
I appreciate you. Merry Christmas and happy Honica. All right,
(43:30):
lighten the mood next.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
All right, before we lighten the mood, let me.
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Speaker 1 (44:07):
Now, I'm a bit of a chef, and this is
the shorter version of my latest cooking video.
Speaker 11 (44:16):
First of all, everything everything when it comes to cooking,
involves high quality ingredients.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
So make sure you.
Speaker 11 (44:22):
Spend the money get the best ground beef you can find. Okay,
First of all, Burger's in there. Seasoning salt, I just
use lowries.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Or whatever I happen to have. You don't have to
stress the general seasoning salt.
Speaker 11 (44:35):
Little garlic powder again, just a little, a little dust,
a little dusting a garlic powder. And then, of course,
as I've said many times before, the star of the
show Chipotle Tabasco sauce, not Tabasco sauce, which is gross.
Chipotle Tabasco sauce. This is the star of the show.
Now be generous with it. Don't be whining about heat.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Most of the heat cooks off.
Speaker 11 (45:01):
I do want to stress that it's most of the
heat cooks off. If you're one of these sensitive people
Gingers Canadians, you can't handle any kind of a heat.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Then you might get a little.
Speaker 11 (45:12):
Extra spice, But for those of us normal people, you
should have just the appropriate amount of spice. This is
an American cheese endeavor. Let freedom ring baby. Don't don't
use your fancy cheeses. Good cheeseburgers need American cheese. Then
the buns. The buns are more than just a delivery
(45:33):
vehicle for the burger in the cheese. They're a critical
part of the burger. So don't walk off in the
grocery store and just grab a pack of buns. You
have to finger the buns to make sure the buns
are appropriate.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
One, get the buns from the back of the shelf.
Speaker 11 (45:46):
Everyone knows they put They put the older ones in
the fronts.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
They want you to buy them.
Speaker 9 (45:50):
Two.
Speaker 11 (45:51):
Take the time finger the buns.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Make sure you have good buns. A good burger a
flat burger. So you want to smash that thing down
real good and flatten it out. Flip now.
Speaker 12 (46:06):
The second you flip it, get that American cheese on there.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Because American cheese must be melted. Burger cheese must be melted.
I cannot believe these savages who serve their burgers with
the cheese unmelted.
Speaker 12 (46:20):
Right about now you're probably thinking, Okay, do you have
your I end plates, you have your finger funs, Jesse,
what about on the.
Speaker 11 (46:26):
Ketchup and mustard and mayo and medicine tomatoes? Remember world
famous Jesse tellyburgers are world.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Famous for a reason.
Speaker 11 (46:34):
They don't need anything, No condiments, no vegetables, no nothing.
Speaker 12 (46:38):
You don't need any of that. And look how fat
that American cheese goes to work. Boom Burger. It's stun.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Burger is stop Burger is fun that is ready to enjoy.
You're welcome, joy. I'll see to him. M
Joe Biden pardoned his son. We'll talk about that. We
have a new FBI director. I hope we have a
couple FBI guys here to address that.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All that tariffs and more coming up, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right okay, so late last night the news you are
well aware of by now, late last night Joe Biden,
kind of odd to do it on a Sunday, decided
to go out and pardon his son.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now, let's get past all the.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Things you already know, the things you've already heard all
day long. Yes, I am aware he said repeatedly that
he wasn't going to We're always out there saying things
like this.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
As we sit here in Normandy, your son Hunter is
on trial. And I know that you cannot speak about
an ongoing federal prosecution, but let me ask you. Will
you accept the jury outcome? They're verdict no matter what
it is. Yes, And have you ruled out a pardon
for your son?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes? Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I could sit here and play you the things you've
seen all day long, the montages of Joe saying I
won't and the media is saying he won't. Let's get
past all that you already know, all that Joe Biden
lied and said he wasn't going to pardon his son.
I'm going to tell you why this pardon is a
good thing in a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Just hang with me. But first of all, let's cover this.
Let's cover this.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Joe Biden is a liar and has always been a liar.
And as I used to say repeatedly back when he
was still pretending to be the President of the United
States of America, Joe Biden is as amazing as this
is the biggest liar in the history of the United
States presidency. No other president, Republican or Democrat, has come close.
(01:54):
And I say this as someone who knows all politicians lie,
all presidents lie. They all do they will shade the
truth and manipulate this. Joe Biden, for his entire career,
has not shaded the truth. He's one of these sociopaths.
You've probably known one or two in your life. A
complete sociopath. I used to work with a guy who
(02:14):
lied all the time, and they used to say about
him that he would rather climb up the tree to
tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell
the truth. That's Joe Biden. He didn't shade the truth.
He has repeatedly told these gigantic, easily verifiable lies, and
he does so with a straight face. There's video going
back decades of Joe Biden saying I was at the
(02:36):
top of my law school, and then of course that's
easy to verify. Everyone can look at the papers. You
weren't even close to the top of the law school.
He said he taught the Second Amendment in college as
a professor. He never taught a single class as a professor.
He said he had a football scholarship. He said bo
Biden has died in every war from World War Two
to Korea to the war in Iraq. Biden tells gigantic,
(03:03):
verifiable lies because Joe Biden is a sociopath, a criminal,
and a scumbag, and has done so so many times
throughout history that if Joe Biden told me water was wet,
I would just naturally assume it became dry. Joe Biden
is a liar, so like you, I never believed this anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Let's get past all that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Let's first of all address why this is in a
way a good thing. You see, on a little level,
which we'll get to to father pardoning his son. We'll
talk about why in a moment, But on a macro level,
this is obviously bad for the country. It is the
country as a whole. If you zoom out thirty thousand
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foot view and you look.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's terrible. It's terrible for the country America.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Americans, Republican and Democrat, and everybody in the middle woke
up today and saw the news that they didn't see
it last night. And virtually every single one of them
unless you're a paid Democrat, and I realize there are
many of those in the media and otherwise, but unless
you're a paid communist tact everybody looked at this news.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And thought a lot completely corrupt. Wait, that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Hold on, he gave him a blanket pardon for the
span of like eleven years.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That's awful.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Even Democrats like Michael Bennett, Michael Bennet's a Democrat senator,
came out and said, ah, this looks bad.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay, So everyone woke up.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Everybody, normies, Democrats, Republicans woke up today and thought.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Ah, that looks bad. It's kind of iggy.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So why would this in any way be a good thing. Well,
remember legitimacy. Legitimacy the faith you give the faith the
citizen gives to corrupt, evil institutions.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That is the power, that is the juice.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Those institutions you to hurt you. You see, if you
have faith in the FBI, if you're still one of
these losers out there, they're great better women at the FBI,
you're actually committing an act of evil because you're legitimizing
evil and you're enabling evil. So it's really important that
you don't give them legitimacy. It's more important that people
wake up and realize the FBI is evil. We'll get
(05:20):
to the cash matel talking a little bit. So back
to Joe Biden. The Democrat Party is evil. They're run
by corrupt, evil communists now. And while that may have
been very obvious to you because you watch this show
on a regular basis, I'm sure you read things, watch things.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Listen to things.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
For many, many, many normal Americans, they haven't completely gotten
to that realization yet. And while I don't celebrate that
the Democrat Party is now completely evil, it is a
good thing if the American people wake up today and
realize that it robs these evil people, this.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Evil regime of legitimacy.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So now the next time they get up behind the
podium and tell a lie, which they will do. They
lie as easy as they breathe. The lies simply won't
have enough legs because they've lost more and more legitimacy.
In a way, a weird, twisted way, I'm almost kind
of happy that Joe Biden pardoned Hunter. I'm not surprised
(06:22):
by it in the least. Told you this was coming.
Everyone knew this was common, not surprised by it in
the least. And now the American people are waking up
to the fact that these people are evil. They lie
about everything, and laws never apply to them. They don't
think they should apply to them. Now back to the laws.
Why did Joe Biden do this? Why did Joe Biden
(06:45):
pardon his son? Well, remember that old video, Joe Biden.
We've played it for you a bunch on the show.
But Joe Biden, it's almost bizarre. Really, these politicians try
to keep their corruption hidden. But Joe Biden, on camera,
in a room full of people, stood up and bragged
(07:05):
about having a prosecutor fired.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I had gotten a commitment from Porshenko and from yatsun
Yuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor
and they didn't, so they said they had. They were
walking out to press comt. I said, no, I said,
I'm not going to We're not going to give you
the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority, you're
not the president. The president said, I said, call him.
(07:29):
I said, I'm telling you're not getting a billion dollars.
I said, you're not getting a billion. N I'm gonna be
leaving here. And I think it was what six hours.
I looked at I said, I'm leaving the six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh,
son of them got fired.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You see, this pardon is a blanket pardon and a
backdated pardon. Why did Joe Biden want that prosecutor fired
so badly? Because that prosecutor was investigating a company maybe
you've heard of. It's called Barisma. Barisma, that's the company,
the Ukrainian company that hired Hunter Biden to sit on
(08:10):
its board eighty plus thousand dollars a month. Why would
a foreign energy company hire Hunter Biden to sit on
its board when Hunter Biden himself has no energy experience
whatsoever to speak of.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, everyone knows you don't have to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
They hired him because Joe Biden was delivering something, something
to these people. You don't just pay eighty three thousand
dollars a month to Hunter Biden so he can snort
lines a co co coff. Youe secretary, You hire Hunter
Biden so you have access to then Vice President Joe Biden.
You see, Joe Biden is a criminal that he comes
(08:51):
from an entire criminal family. The reason you backdate this
pardon and deliver such a blanket pardon as not because
of your a love father to your dirt ball crackhead son.
You give this pardon out because your son knows where
all the bodies are buried in a dirt ball like
(09:13):
Hunter Biden is not going to go away to federal
prison for ten fifteen years without speaking up your hand
your son a pardon not because he's your boy, but
because he's your criminal accomplice. You see, and this comes
back to what I was talking about earlier, in a weird,
(09:34):
twisted way. I'm glad he did it because these people
are evil, they're liars, they're criminals, they're corrupt, and you
already knew that. You knew that yesterday, right, you knew
that yesterday morning, before the Hunter Biden pardon came down,
you already knew that.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But we're not worried about you. We're worried about your.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Normy neighbor who still says things like the great men
and women are the f B I, your Norman neighbor,
needs to wake up and realize you the United States
government is an evil, criminal, corrupt organization. And when we
wake up and find out Joe Biden backdated an eleven
year pardon for his scumbags son, it helps your normy
neighbor realize that fact, and in a weird way, that
(10:15):
helps us, and it's a good thing. All that may
have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. We have
so much to get to tonight, cash but tell stuff
tariff talk. Before we get to any of that, let's
get to your sleep. So I know, I know you're
well aware that it's officially Christmas season, and you walk
(10:37):
in anyone of these coffee shops and it's Christmas theme
this and Christmas flavor that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
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Beam had something like that, because I love my dream powder,
but I want delicious Christmas flavors. Well Beam delivered that
you see, it's a cup of hot chocolate. I normally
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like brownie batter, white chocolate, peppermint.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
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Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's a couple of hot chocolate and it'll put you
to sleep, and when you wake up in the morning,
you feel great.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
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Speaker 1 (11:09):
Go to shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly and sleep
like a baby.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome
an addiction.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
He is.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He's one of the brightest, most decent men I know.
And I am satisfied that I'm not gonna do anything
I said. I advide by the jury decision, and I
will do that, and I will not partner him.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Sometimes sometimes since he always hides on the beach, now,
sometimes I forget that the president is not even a
functional adult.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Then we play these old videos.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Donald was anyway, he pardoned him, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But a lot of people don't really.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
This wasn't the first kind of blanket get out of
jail free card. Hunter almost got in recent memory joining
me now talk about that in some other things. May Mailman,
director of the wonderful independent women's Law Center.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Hey, may people forget about what.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Mister David Weiss whatever his dumb name is, and the
thing he tried to pull when he was supposed to
be prosecuting Hunter.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
So this is take two.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Take one was there was supposed to be a plea
deal where Hunter Biden said, I plead guilty to nothing,
essentially like I apologize for nothing, and in exchange for that,
he was going to get immunity a deal with the government,
so basically doing it through contract, where here this is
(12:45):
through executive fiat. Now, if you remember the last time
a judge had some questions, wait, so is this plea
deal covering just the related crimes that are being investigated
or is this everything? And the kind of said, oh,
we can't say out loud, it's everything. So they said
it was just these crimes, and Hunter Biden said no, no, no,
(13:06):
that's not what you agreed to earlier. So the deal
fell through before. And I used to think that Hunter
was stupid. He should have just taken the limited deal before.
But now he's out of jail anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
May you are educated.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I am stupid, so I need you to lay something
out for me, because it really get confused when it
comes to this legal stuff. It's this blanket part and
everyone's talking about it today covers pretty much eleven years.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think it's ten, but.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
If you look at the dates, it's eleven years and it's.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
A backdated part. So what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
As in, if we find out that Hunter Biden murdered
the babysitter back in twenty eighteen, is he covered?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
There?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Is this like a just blanket get out of jail
free card? Are there a specific list of crimes? How
does this work?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
It's a blanket pardon, so it would cover everything, but
it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Cover so but a couple of things.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
So one it doesn't cover state crimes, so the federal
government is not in charge of state governments. And then two,
it doesn't cover new crimes arising out of things that
might have been pardoned. So let's just say he did
murder somebody and then he gets questioned about it and
he lies on the standard, you know, something like that,
like you can still be held accountable for perjury. So
(14:30):
like Hunter Biden is going to live a long life
after this. I don't know whether he's going to be
able to stay out of trouble. So it really does.
It ends on the date that it ends. But yeah,
this is this is ridiculously sweeping.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay, how ridiculous is it? May have we seen things
like this before? I personally can't remember having seen anything
like this before.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But is this something that's been done? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I mean I I'm sure that there is some sort
of constitutional pardon expert who could tell you, maybe for
pardons for people who are already dead, just clearing their
name something like that.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
These are sort of symbolic.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I would imagine that there are full and unconditional pardons,
but for somebody who has lived a life of crime,
who has cheated the American taxpayer out of their money,
who has been involved in bribery schemes with the federal government,
for people who are unregistered foreign agents like Hunter Biden is,
(15:33):
you know, appears to be no like he is.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
This is one of one for that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, Man, let's shift gears here, because there are other
things going on besides the President and his.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Dirt ball son.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Let's talk about the culture wars stuff, because you have
been all over this stuff, specifically dudes pretending to be
chicks and beating up women in sports.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Where are we in all this?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Well, I mean the men are still beating up women
in sports, although sometimes the women win.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So if you.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Are following the San Jose State University women's volleyball team,
Boise State didn't even participate in the championship because they
didn't want to risk well, A, they wanted to say
women's sports, and B they didn't want their women to
have to get a ball smash in their face and
then they get paralyzed for life like Peyton McNabb. And
(16:27):
so yes, the NC double A, the Biden administration, federal
regulations are still putting men in women's sports. But luckily
there was an election and there's going to be a
new sheriff in charge. So I think you're going to
very immediately see changes in the federal government. The question then,
is what was some of these private entities, like the
Soccer Federation, these the sport bodies governing the Olympics, governing volleyball,
(16:53):
these types of things, whether they're going to act.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
To may Donald Trump's out to be president of the
United States here and I don't know, like a month
and a half month and twenty days at give or
take What impact can he have on all this stuff,
all the Title nine stuff. What power does the president
have to affect change in this area? Because it is
really gross. That story about Peyton is just unbelievably awful.
(17:19):
I can't believe we allow that stuff in this country.
But what power does Trump have and what power do
you think he will use to get this stuff switched around?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
So I think on day one you have the Department
of Education, which yes, does need to be eliminated, but
it's not going to happen on day one.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
So what are they going to do? On day one?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
They are going to save women's sports and save women's spaces.
The Office of Civil Rights there launches investigations and they
see whether universities are discriminating on the basis of race
or discriminating on the basis of sex, and if universities,
if colleges, if daycares are not providing safe spaces for women,
(17:58):
then should be investigated and they should have their federal
funding pull. So I think the Apartment of Education can
immediately launch an investigation. I'm going to say San Jose
state number one, Western Carolina University should be number two.
That's where Peyton McNabb currently goes and she does not
have access to a women's bathroom there.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
They won't give her. They say men can go into
the women's.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Bathrooms, all right, and then you've got to do the
harder work of rewriting the regulations. So I know that
the public is smart and they think that, oh if
the federal if we voted for Trump, that means that
the regulation can change.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Unfortunately, the way that the government works is that a
bunch of lawyers have to come together and they have
to give all of these reasons for taking down the
Biden rule. Then they have to put a new regulation up.
It has to have a comment period, they have to
receive hundreds of thousands of comments, they have to sift
through those, they have to do a new so anyway, eventually,
I think then you're going to see a new Title
(18:56):
nine role. But that's that unfortunately, can't be a day
one action, right.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's the last thing we need is a bunch of
you lawyers coming together. May thank you so much for
what you do, though, appreciate it all right, Cash Batel,
we got what we wanted. We hope Cash Bateel is
being put up as the next FBI director.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Who is he? Do you know him? We have a
couple former FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Agents heroes of mind to be frank and I don't
say that about many people who gave up their careers
at the FBI because how evil it's become.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Let's talk to them about Cash. Do they love him?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Do they hate him? Before we get to them, let's
talk about pure Talk. You see, it is the Christmas season,
isn't it, And.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We're all looking around at what do I buy? What
do I buy?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I don't know what do I buy? Everyone wants a
new phone all the time. Unless you just got.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
A new phone. You want a new phone.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Your phone's slowing down, the batteries getting crappy, You're getting
frustrated with this. Oh wait, I need to add another
update that I'll ruin my phone. Just get a hold
of pure Talk. Not only when you switch your cell
phone service to Puretalk. Do you save a fortune? You
don't need Verizon at and T or Temo. Well, pure
Talk's in the same network. But pure Talk has all
the new phones and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
If you want to keep your phone, you can, But
do you want a new iPhone? They have it? Do
you want a new Android, they have it and you
pay less.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Puretalk dot com, slash jessetv go patronize a company that
shares your values, and they have all the new phones. Congrats,
just did your Christmas shopping for you. Let's talk to
the AFBI agent's former next, Cash Battel. Obviously I know
(20:44):
who Cashptel is. You watch this show on any kind
of a regular basis, you're probably somebody who knows Cash
Pattel is. But let's assume maybe you don't came out
over the weekend. Trump says, Hey, Cash Betel is going
to be my guy to lead the FBI.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I didn't mean for that to rhyme, but I'm glad
did so. Here's a little snippet of who Cash Pattel is.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
The FBI's footprint has gotten so frickin' big, and the
biggest problem the FBI has had has come out of
its intel shops. I'd break that component out of it.
I'd shut down the FBI Hoover building on day one
and reopening the next day as a museum of the
Deep State. And I'd take the seven thousand employees that
work in that building and send them across America to
(21:26):
chase down criminals, Go be cops, your cops.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
That sounds wonderful to me. What does Steve and Garrett
think about that?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Joining me now?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Two FBI whistleblowers, And as I said, I don't have
many people I look up to, but I so respect
people who gave it all up to expose to check out.
Steve Friend, Garrett Oboyle join me. What do they think
That's a little bit more important than what I think
about it? Okay, Garrett, let's begin with you.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Cash Pattel. Do you like it? You hate it? What
is it? I love it?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Jesse, thanks for having me back on. I appreciate it.
Two years ago, when people first started hearing about Steve
Friend and Garrett Boyle, I wouldn't have guessed that it
would have gotten to this point where Cash Barttel Barring
getting confirmed will be the next FBI director.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You couldn't make this stuff up in a fiction book,
and if if.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
You put it in a fiction book, nobody would read
it because it would be so unbelievable. But from my
perspective being now, let's see into my twenty seventh month
of an indefinite suspension for making protective disclosures to Congress,
I couldn't be happier about this selection.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, that says a lot to me, Steve, what say you?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I'm in whole agreement with Garrett on this one. Look,
kesh Bertel reached out independently to him and I through
his charitable foundation when we were in our most dire situation,
very much like you did for me, Jesse. That to
me shows the measure of a man. He did not
ask for any accolades, earning recognition to just the character
quality that that exudes, that fidelity, bravery, and integrity, the
(23:06):
actual unofficial model of the FBI. And then beyond that,
he's uper qualified and competent. He has a background and
not just a jsock prosecutor and working on the House
selectivity and intelligence, but he was actually a public defender
as well, both at the local and the federal level.
He brings that sort of experience looking at both sides
of it, the respect for the process, the respect for
(23:27):
civil liberties, and he's just also represents a turning of
the generation as well. Cash is a pretty young guy.
I believe that he's going to be the best option
if we're going to have any sorts of renovation of
the FBI and I'm so firmly in the camp the
dissolution and shattering it to a thousand pieces is ultimately
what it would come down to. But if we have
(23:48):
one chance, one civil lining here, I think Casper tells
a man to get it done.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's music to my ears. Garrett, let me ask you
about what Steve just said. I'm obviously of the belief
that you cannot reform it. You can't save it. Once
an institution, especially government one, gets this bad, it has
to go away. But you've been inside the building.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I've never been inside the building.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm sure I probably will be next time a Democrat
gets elected.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But what what say you? Can it be reformed? Can
it be safe?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Can someone like Cash go in there and turn it
into what it's supposed to be, what you two signed.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Up to do in there?
Speaker 8 (24:25):
You know, Jesse, I've long believed that it couldn't be reformed,
that it needed to be shattered and scattered into a
thousand pieces. And like that clip you played from Cash,
turn the Uberbuilding into a museum of the deep State. Now,
if there is any hope for it, it's going to
take strong leadership from the top down, and there certainly
are people in the FBI in those position, positions as
(24:47):
we speak, that want nothing to do with Cash Mattel,
and they want the FBI to be the modern day
American Stazi. Hopefully Cash can turn it around, and hopefully
there are enough people in the institution left who want
to do the right thing. I struggle with that too,
because you look at Steve and I and a couple
others who have come forward, and now suddenly we are
(25:10):
hearing murmurings from inside the FBI that so many people
are happy about this selection as we are.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
But where were they the last few years.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
If everybody who leaned into their cowardice for all these years,
if they all would have stood up and said, hey,
this agency has broken, it needs to be fixed, it
would already been fixed.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So I have my.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Reservations, and I know some of these deep state apparatrics
are going to try to thwart a directorship by Cash Pttel,
and many are already hard at work to do that.
But at the same time, I've been already contacted by
a number of my former colleagues who are excited about
this selection, and so maybe, just maybe there's a little
(25:51):
bit of hope for the FBI. But I'm not holding
my breath quite yet.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'm not either.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Hope is not a plan as they say and speak
of those deep state types.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I hope nobody watching things.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
They all have a D before their title, because there
are plenty of our types there, like one Mike Rounds.
Let's talk about the possibility of to tell getting confirmed,
because I can't help but think about this South Dakota
Senator Mike Rounds saying things like this.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
Chris Ray, you know who the President nominated the first
time around. And I think the President picked a very
good man to be the director of the FBI when
he did that in his first term. When we meet
with him behind closed doors, I've had no objections to
the way that he's handled himself, and so I don't
have any complaints about the way that he's done his job.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Right now, Steve, I hear things like that, and it
disheartens me, brother, because I say to myself, these people
are never going to allow any reformers through. It doesn't
matter pick a name, call it cash for now, they're
not gonna be able to get through.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Let's say you.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Well, obviously, Mike Rounds approves of Christopher Ray's FBI as
went after Catholics who went to the Latin Mass, or
moms who went to a school board meeting to express
displeasure with critical race theory being taught to their children,
or Christopher Ray's FBI which reassigned me from investigating child
pornography and told me that it was not a priority
(27:17):
going forward. And then I really needed to focus on
the elderly women that were there on January sixth, or
imprisoned concentration camp survivors who were praying outside of an
abortion clinic. But you know, he's got really nice hair
and he comes off really well, So we approve that
Mike grounds from the blood red state of South Dakota
just yet another one of the low T GOP examples
(27:41):
exhibit a right there of why we have a primary
process that needs to get these guys out of office,
because they just do not accept what time it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Is primary process. We have to start using a lot
better than we currently do. Garrett, speaking of whistleblowers, it
wasn't just people within the FBI who were going after
guys like you and Steve Democrat. Members of Congress made
it their mission to come after you, didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
They They sure did.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Jesse And as the story of the suspendables continues to unfold.
We learn a little bit, it seems every couple of months,
we get a little bit more information. And yes, they
they continue to come after me and others.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And maybe not that.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Many people will remember, but shortly after Steve and I
testified in May of twenty twenty three, some Democrats Jerry
Nadler and Stacey Plaskett, they referred me to the DOJ
for for criminal.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Charges regarding perjury and obstruction.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
And you know, fast forward to now, we're continuing to
learn a little bit more information about that and how
the FBI had a case open and they were subpoenaing
X for information related to my my ex account as
well as Kyle Sarafin's X account, and they even subpoenaed
my wife's.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Apple ID and information related to that.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
So we're still working through all that and trying to
figure out what comes next. And it's crazy that year,
two plus years of this and we're still in the
thick of this fight, and who knows. Hopefully by January
twenty first, we will see some real substantive change, not
only from a selfish perspective for myself and for Steve,
(29:21):
but for this nation as a whole as it relates
to the FBI, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Well, I'm selfish for you guys too. I want some
freaking scouts. Let's hope we actually get those. Garrett, Steve
appreciate you both. It upsets me a great deal when warriors,
whatever the stripe, it's screwed by the people they fight for.
Has always bothered me. When it happens to guys in
(29:48):
the military, bothers me. When it happens to hard chargers
in the FBI like that, it just it gets to
me rough.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Anyway, I hope they see justice one day.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right, We got to talk to Caro Off about
the terraces and the economy and all this brick stuff.
Before we get to that, Steve friend brought up an
important point there the low TGOP.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
The problem with people like Mike Rounds is not.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Just that they're losers and probably compromise with some sort
of blackmail material. The problem is their testosterone levels are
so low. And I know this because virtually every band's
is here in the country. We've lost fifty percent of
our testosterone in fifty years because of all the estrogens
and the waters and the plastic we freaking shower in
it now. We are just losing ourselves. So what do
(30:36):
you do about it? You have to do something. You
can't just let it go. It's not one of those things. Yeah,
we'll figure it out. No, No, you have to do something.
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Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So let's have some economic talks. Some of it you
may love, some of it you may hate. But we
have to discuss things like trade tariffs, things like that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Now, Donald Trump has been.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Using tariffs, or I should say specifically the threat of
tariffs to get our neighbors to be more neighborly, if
you will. We talked about this a bit last week. Canada, Mexico.
Trump's telling them, Hey, all those goods we buy from you, Yeah,
I'm gonna start slapping a big fatty tax on those
things if you don't stop the drugs and illegals from
(31:50):
pouring into this country. Those freaking Canadians, we don't need
any more of them here. That aside, it was a threat,
and it's not about the tariff. It was about the threat.
Do better comply. Well, Donald Trump's not done using this threat.
He's now threatening the bricks nations. You know that alternate
to the dollar, because the dollar is the world's reserve currency.
Now Trump's out there saying you better drop all this
(32:12):
bricks business or a tariff's coming your way too. Let's
talk to Carol Roth about that. Joining me now, Carol
Roth owner owner. I guess maybe she owns them. I
should have said author, but we'll call her an owner,
an owner of this wonderful book.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Sure, she bought it. You will own nothing as the
name of the book. She wrote it. She wrote a
bunch of good books, Okay, Carol.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I'm not a huge tariff guy. I generally think that
that's kind of going after the symptom of a problem
instead of the route. I, however, am very fine with
the threat of tariffs on these scumbag countries.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It works for me. What say you.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Well, I think we're dealing with a little bit of
art of the deal here, Jesse. This is Trump blustering
and saying, these are the things that we might do,
and you're going to want to come to the table.
And what's great about Trump is that he's not your
typical politician. So if you're trying to deal with him
and you pull out the playbook that you're going to
use on Joe Biden or whoever it is that's running
(33:09):
the country now and has been for the last four years,
that's not going to work. And even though you've seen
Trump before, he just is sort of a wild card,
so he could do something. He might not do it.
You don't know, but you probably don't want to find out.
And I think that's one thing that everybody likes. That
sort of surprise element gives him a little bit more
negotiating leverage. So I'm absolutely fine with him threatening all
(33:31):
these kinds of things to get people to the negotiating table.
It sounds like that has worked already, perhaps in Mexico,
and probably you know, given the fact that Justin Trudeau
went down to mar A Lago, probably worked there a
little bit. So now he's going after the bricks. The
challenge with the bricks and the currency there, and the
bricks is sort of a conglomeration of nations Brazil, Russia, India, China,
(33:57):
Saudi Arabia, and they've added a few of them folks
in the last couple of years. Is that they are
sort of a different animal. And when you start saying, oh,
you have to use the US dollar, you can't create
their own currency, the reality is that they haven't been
using their own currency. There was a lot of speculation
about it, but what they've been doing is they've been
(34:19):
training more amongst each other in their own currencies, which
is going to be very difficult for the US to
say that you can't do that. In China, which is
obviously the big dog over there, they have been offering
credible settlement for any extra yuwan than anybody has and
saying that we'll let you settle that in gold, and
that's part of the reason why we've been seeing this
(34:41):
price increase in gold. So when you think about the
bricks countries, in countries overall, they have been actually net
sellers of treasuries over the last ten years, So not
to say that they never buy any but on a
net basis they are selling more than they're taking in
because they just don't feel like, you know, everything being
(35:03):
priced in dollars is good for them, because when oil
fluctuates wildly in dollars and food fluctuates wildly in dollars,
it hurts them from a national security perspective and just
an economic perspective. So they're looking to find a different way.
And the reality is that train has already left the station.
So you know, President Trump can come out and say this,
(35:24):
and you know, the US dollar has to be at
the center of everything, but he's not going to be
able to stop them from trading in their other currencies
or in gold, which by the way, has been what
has been replaced by all the treasuries that have not
been have been sold off. It's not that these countries
are buying other currencies for their reserves their buying goal.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I'm glad you brought that up, Koh, because that actually
brings me perfectly. We didn't plan this ahead, and I
swear everybody that brings me perfectly to the thirty six
trillion dollars in debt, the spending and printing insanity.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Of this country.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm fine with Donald Trump threatening these dirtball countries.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I don't like them. I hope he goes all in.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Sounds great to me, but the truth is something like bricks,
whether it's gold, silver, bricks or whatever, is an inevitability
if we don't get the dollar back where it needs
to be, and we can't do that unless we do
the one thing there seems to be no appetite whatsoever
for in Washington, and that's stopping the spending.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Right well, I think that that is what the Trump
administration is trying to do. They've brought on a whole
slew of very interesting characters, everybody from the Treasury secretary pick,
and obviously these folks need to be confirmed in many cases,
but Scott bess Into is the pick right now for
Treasury Secretary. He has a very interesting plan that he's floating,
(36:48):
which is relying on growth as well as cutting spending.
And we've talked about this before. You have to have
the choreography because yes, we have seen a couple percentage
points and growth the GDP over the last few years,
but that's been propped up by deficits that run about
seven percent of our GDP. So if we were just
to slash that all all of a sudden, we would
(37:11):
have a shrinkage and I'm not talking a Seinfeld shrinkage,
but a financial shrinkage and our GDP that would be really,
really horrible for the economy. So it needs to be
this clear choreography where you get the growth that you know,
lets the private sector grow more than the amount that
you're cutting, so that you have on a net basis,
(37:33):
you know, what looks like a stronger economy. And Scott
Bessen has a three three three plan. It sounds a
little familiar from the past, but it's a little bit
different where he's looking at trying to have three percent
growth while cutting the deficit to GDP to three percent,
which again, given the fact that it's seven ish, that
that's more than half and that's like a twenty twenty
(37:55):
eight goal. Because he knows that this needs to happen,
he also wants to increase oil production an additional three
plus million barrels a day, again to sort of spark
the growth. But there needs to be this choreography between
all these different efforts, because as much as you and
I would just like to know Javier Melay and go
in there and slash everything, we cannot do things in
(38:16):
the same way we did things in the nineteen eighties.
In the nineteen eighties, debt to GDP was at thirty percent.
Today it's at one hundred and twenty percent. We don't
have the flexibility in order to do things the same way.
So this needs to be done very carefully. And I,
for one, feel very relieved that we have some adults
in the room here understanding this and saying we know
(38:37):
what needs to be done, but it needs to be
done thoughtfully in order for it to be done the
right way and not have adverse impacts.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Where do they cut, Carol, I'm not a child. I
understand that the holy grails of these big federal entitlement
programs are not going to see a single penny cut.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I get all that. No politician going to touch that.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
So if we're not touching those pieces of the pie,
what kind of the pie is leaving?
Speaker 6 (39:07):
So I think it's obviously wasteful of you know, nondiscretionary
spending that you're going to have cut. There is plenty
of places that are wasteful, even in something like the
Defense Department, and we want to have strong defense department.
We know all kinds of money goes missing all the time,
so we need to be able to hone in on that.
(39:29):
And we've got some really good names again and Elon
Musk and Vivek that are going to be looking at
this trying to see where these areas of waste are.
You know, one thing that would be nice too is
to have a better interest rate so we didn't have
so much debt. That would be a good place where
we could hopefully cut over time. But I'm not sure
we're going to see that either, Jesse. But again, you
(39:51):
know this entitlement piece, which you and I both know
needs to be touched eventually, that's not going to happen
this round. I think that Scott best sent has even said,
you know, that's for the JD. Vans twenty twenty eight,
you know, running for the country. That's going to happen
the next time around. We just need to start moving
(40:13):
things away from this horrible place that we're at now
and hopefully over time if we can cut out all
of the wasteful spending and get the government back to Yes,
we have these crazy entitlement programs, but you know there's
not all of this other insane spending from shrimps walking
on treadmills to you know, waste in different departments, and frankly,
(40:34):
there are entire departments that should just be cut in
their entirety that we can then start to have a
serious conversation about what the next level is. This is
not something that's going to be happening overnight, but what
I'm looking for is that movement in the right direction.
And I think that movement in the direct right direction
will inspire confidence that we are on the track to
(40:56):
get there and allow more flexibility, more optimist, more investment.
We're hiring all those things because we do need that
growth piece in order for any of this to work.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I still him to drop that hot potato in jd
Vance's last Okay, Kerrol it is it is the Christmas
season or you know, honkah for you people, and you
have a message about that about small businesses, So.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Go ahead, yeah, us people like the small business owners.
It's takka for us. I sell it. By the way,
I celebrate Christmas too, Jesse. Just so you know, my
dad didn't want us to be left out, so we
always hung our stockings for Santa. But because we were
the like lived in an entirely Jewish neighborhood. We were
the only people that Santa came for, and so people say,
(41:42):
why did Santa come to your house? And I'd be like, well,
obviously he just likes us and he must not like you.
So so Santa and I go way back. We still
hang our stacking for Santa. But at any rate, good
we want to we want to support the backbone of
the economy. We want to do that all year round,
and definitely this holiday season. This is the time of
(42:02):
year for many small businesses, especially in your community. You
know those stores on main Street where this will make
or break whether or not they're in the red or
black this year. Also on our website, which I see
that you're showing right now, we do have our own
small business gift guide, So if you're not sure what
small businesses to support, it's a great way to start
at Carolroth dot com and click on community and you
(42:24):
can see we've got more than sixty small businesses that
we feature. But you know, every dollar that you spend
in your local community, I think it's more than seventy
cents stays in that local community. So it's a really
good way to show your support locally as well. And
we have consumers who are still spending this holiday season.
Black Friday we saw I think it was the early estimates,
(42:47):
over three percent overall, much more chilted towards online than
the stores. So you know, people are shifting their behaviors,
but they haven't run out of cash yet, Jesse. They
may be you know I read in Dead's and dipping
into their savings, but they're going to have a good
Christmas Honakhr, whatever holiday that they're celebrating this season.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I really want you to do that. I really want
you to go to Carol Roth dot com click on community.
This is something obviously we joke, but we both really
really believe in this. Patronize your small businesses, these evil corporations.
You leave them alone as much as possible, keep your
money in your community. Carol, Thank you, ma'am. As always,
I appreciate you. Merry Christmas and happy Honica. All right,
(43:30):
lighten the mood next.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
All right, before we lighten the mood, let me.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
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Speaker 2 (44:05):
Subscribe it's free. All right.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Now, I'm a bit of a chef, and this is
the shorter version of my latest cooking video.
Speaker 11 (44:16):
First of all, everything everything when it comes to cooking,
involves high quality ingredients.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
So make sure you.
Speaker 11 (44:22):
Spend the money get the best ground beef you can find. Okay,
First of all, Burger's in there. Seasoning salt, I just
use lowries.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Or whatever I happen to have. You don't have to
stress the general seasoning salt.
Speaker 11 (44:35):
Little garlic powder again, just a little, a little dust,
a little dusting a garlic powder. And then, of course,
as I've said many times before, the star of the
show Chipotle Tabasco sauce, not Tabasco sauce, which is gross.
Chipotle Tabasco sauce. This is the star of the show.
Now be generous with it. Don't be whining about heat.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Most of the heat cooks off.
Speaker 11 (45:01):
I do want to stress that it's most of the
heat cooks off. If you're one of these sensitive people
Gingers Canadians, you can't handle any kind of a heat.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Then you might get a little.
Speaker 11 (45:12):
Extra spice, But for those of us normal people, you
should have just the appropriate amount of spice. This is
an American cheese endeavor. Let freedom ring baby. Don't don't
use your fancy cheeses. Good cheeseburgers need American cheese. Then
the buns. The buns are more than just a delivery
(45:33):
vehicle for the burger in the cheese. They're a critical
part of the burger. So don't walk off in the
grocery store and just grab a pack of buns. You
have to finger the buns to make sure the buns
are appropriate.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
One, get the buns from the back of the shelf.
Speaker 11 (45:46):
Everyone knows they put They put the older ones in
the fronts.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
They want you to buy them.
Speaker 9 (45:50):
Two.
Speaker 11 (45:51):
Take the time finger the buns.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Make sure you have good buns. A good burger a
flat burger. So you want to smash that thing down
real good and flatten it out. Flip now.
Speaker 12 (46:06):
The second you flip it, get that American cheese on there.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Because American cheese must be melted. Burger cheese must be melted.
I cannot believe these savages who serve their burgers with
the cheese unmelted.
Speaker 12 (46:20):
Right about now you're probably thinking, Okay, do you have
your I end plates, you have your finger funs, Jesse,
what about on the.
Speaker 11 (46:26):
Ketchup and mustard and mayo and medicine tomatoes? Remember world
famous Jesse tellyburgers are world.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Famous for a reason.
Speaker 11 (46:34):
They don't need anything, No condiments, no vegetables, no nothing.
Speaker 12 (46:38):
You don't need any of that. And look how fat
that American cheese goes to work. Boom Burger. It's stun.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Burger is stop Burger is fun that is ready to enjoy.
You're welcome, joy. I'll see to him. M
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