April 17, 2025 • 46 mins
Corrupt activist Judge Boasberg claims to have found probable cause to hold Trump officials in contempt. Jesse Kelly gets analysis on this from Former ICE director and Senior DHS advisor Ron Vitiello. But first, Jesse dives into Joe Biden's return to politics, with his first speech since leaving the White House. Jesse also sounds off on alleged Pentagon leakers getting escorted out of the building. Plus, Cernovich sounds off on New York Attorney General Letitia James being referred for criminal prosecution.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's look back, shall we? Not ancient history, Let's look
back now that Joe Biden is back in the Linemight
we'll do that tonight. We'll talk to Cernovich about what's
going on with Tiss James, Did we find a mole
inside the Pentagon? All that more coming up on I'm
right now, Joe Biden's back. I'll tell you what. We'll
(00:29):
get to that in a second. You ever look at
an aging rock star or actor actress and I have
an aged well, if you will, you can just tell
life's been hard. That's been some hard living. They're fifty
five going on eighty five, and you say to yourself,
(00:52):
I am their body has had some abuse to it.
Mickey Rourke's actually gonna sorry not to pick on Mickey Rourke,
who I actually like him as an actor. But you
ever seen Mickey Rourke. Now you look and you think, man,
his body's been through through some things. And you ever
wonder what what was it? What are the things that's
(01:15):
been through?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, it's helpful to figure out what that is.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You see, when you're talking about yourself, when you're talking
about a country, how did we get here as a country?
How did we get to this state of decay. How
did we get to a place where half the country
hates it the rest of us are trying.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
To save it? Had Well, look, we can't.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Discount the role Joe Biden's four years in office played,
because there is Joe Biden's four years. Things accelerated to
a level that shocked everybody, including me. And you know
how evil I talk about these communists being you and
I talk about this all the time, and of course
they are evil. They're evil, they're sick, they're depraved, they're destructive.
(01:56):
But even I would wake up on days when Joe
Biden was president and I would just flabbergasted by the
naked power, the evil of the entire thing. And of
course Joe Biden's back. Now, now, why is Joe Biden back?
Did Joe Biden wake up one day on the beach
in Delaware, wipe the drool off his face and says, Jill,
(02:18):
you know what, I just I want to get back.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
In the game. No, of course not. We all know what.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Joe Biden's mental state is. It's a disaster. Joe Biden
is not celebrating this at all. But Joe Biden is
in the final years of his life. That's how it
goes when when you get that age and your mind
starts to go that way. We're all gonna die one day,
and maybe we're all die in that way. But Joe
(02:45):
Biden does not have a lot of time left on
this planet. He said, it does not, and I'm sure he,
like most people, would like to spend his final days resting.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
On the beach. I don't know, but we all know
pushed him back in.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Jill Biden loved the White House, loved being first Lady,
loved the power, loved the recognition. Remember she used to
host cabinet meetings, give speeches all the time. Her husband
humiliated himself on the national stage in front of the
entire planet on a debate during a debate with Donald Trump,
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and Joe Biden still wanted him to run again. I mean,
it's just a soulless monster, just a fame hungry monster, right,
So I'm sure this was all Jeel's doing. It's just
my guests, but I would guess this is all Jiels doing.
And Joe, you got go give a speech, and well,
let's remember this guy was president for four years.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Everyone, everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, regardless of
their standing, regardless of the economic tisery, regardless of who
they are. People can't sign under their accounts. What do
you think it does to that woman's living alone that
seventy four years check and just not able to even
(04:04):
find out whether she can't even find out what that
this spoony claim is. Yet, think of what the psychic
calm give so many people who just don't know where
to go, don't know how to traverse what it needs
to be done. We're alone?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What, Oh, that's me what he said? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I listened to that four times, Matt producer, Matt cut
that up and set it over. I listened four times.
I still don't know what he said. I don't know,
you don't know. But of course he was the commander
in chief for four years, four years, and this is why,
this is why things accelerated to a level that shocked you,
(04:51):
that shocked me for that four years, because he was
never president of the United States of America. You know that,
it's not just towards the end, it was never president.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He was never.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Strong enough to control the savages in the Democrat Party.
He was a placeholder, and he essentially sat there drooling
on himself while the most evil maoists in the United
States of America did well, I mean everything they could
with no breaks. Joe Biden's presidency was the no breaks
on communism presidency. It was a lovely little window into
(05:24):
what that looks like. You want the Justice Department to
graft your political opponents, go ahead, send the FBI to
raid the Republican nominees home, no problem.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It was just all gas, no breaks on it.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And look, poor Joe, you can't you can't include. I
realize it's the Democrat party and so they have to
pick at the scabs of racism that otherwise they wouldn't
even be a party if they couldn't get people worked
up about race. But you can't ask Joe to make
speeches about buses full of the black kids, because he's
gonna say something like this.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Remember pulling in, pulling into the parking lot, and I
had never seen I'd never seen hardly any black people
and scranting at the time when I and I was
only going in fourth grade. And I remember seeing the
kids going by at the time, called colored kids on
a bus going by. They never turned right to go
to claimont high school. I wondered, why, asked my mom,
(06:21):
why so on Delaware's I'm not allowed to go to
school in public school with white kids.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Honey, Obviously, get another made up story. None of that
conversation never, never happened. Joe Biden can't remember how to
pronounce a sentence. I'm reasonably sure he doesn't remember a
conversation he had with his mother in the fourth grade
about the about being you know, the saintly guy who
wants the black kids to go to school with the
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white kids. But all that aside, that person pretended to
be president for four years.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
But let's not. Let's not take.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
All of the blame off of Joe Biden's shoulders and
hand it out to the communists who surrounded him, Because
there is something that's undeniably true about Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Is a jerk.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And I say it in this way. He's well known,
well known. I now because of this job, I have,
I have sources all over Capitol Hill, Senate offices and
House offices and all kinds of people. It's one of
those things. It's well known. Joe Biden has always been
a jerk to everybody. He's a jerk to his staff,
(07:30):
he's a jerk. To the media, he's just a nasty
human being. And there's decades old video which we've played
for you a thousand times before, of Joe Biden talking
down the people, being a jerk to people. The media
had to present him as this kindly, stintly old man
because they were trying to do a Yin and Yang
thing with Trump. Look how me and Trump is Look
(07:50):
at this, isn't it time for somebody nice? But Joe
Biden is a jerk and always has been. And he
took the communist speech writers of his and he married
the communist speech writers and their evil with his natural
tendencies towards being a jerk. And what he did was
something I have never seen in the entire history of
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America's presidency.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I've never seen it before.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I've never ever seen a president this comfortable talking down
to huge portions of the population.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's never been this divided.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Granted it's roughly thirty percent, but it's a thirty percent
that has no heart.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I understand if you were if you're young, it's not
insulting you just haven't You haven't experienced everything older folks
have that you may not realize how stunning that is.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm forty three years old.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No Democrat, no Republican president in my forty three years
on this planet has ever said anything like that. It's
just something it was always on understood you don't do
as president, even if they say it privately, and of
course they did. Democrats go privately and they dog cust
Republicans and Republicans privately, they'll.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Dog cust Democrats.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
An American president, no matter the party, does not ever
look at a huge portion of the country and talk
down to them and act like they're worthless. That has
never happened in my forty three years. And I've talked
to so many older folks, my parents included, and they
echoed that. They said, well, Jesse were in our seventy
I've never seen it in my entire life. We've had
(09:32):
good presidents, bad presidents. That doesn't happen. But that's a
huge portion of why we are divided, why the lines
are where they are. And it wasn't just that he
would give speeches talking about half the country as if
they're worthless, they're stupid.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What did he say during the campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The only garbage Icee or his supporters talking about Trump
supporters the garbage Icee called us garbage.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It wasn't just that.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Joe Biden, emboldened by the communists around him, did something else.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I've never seen, and I've looked.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't think this has ever happened in the history
of America's presidency.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Remember how we used to threaten us all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Donald Trump and the Maga Republicans represented extremism that threatens
the very foundations of our republic. You've been patient, but
our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost
all of us. And by the way, if they want
to think to take on government, if we get out
of line which they're talking on again about, well guess
(10:37):
what they need at fifteen's They don't need a rifle.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That line is a line I've heard Democrats use a lot.
You want to take on the government, you better get
some nukes. That's what Eric Swalwell said. Joe Biden used
that last line repeatedly. Let's again, because this is about
where we are?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Why are we where we are?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The American president as just it was a talking point
he would use repeatedly and thought it was okay to
tell the American people if they step out of line.
He'll send fighter jets after us. That's what he's saying.
Watch yourself, I'll send some F fifteen's after you. That
is such an insane departure from where this country's ever
(11:26):
been and now here we are. Got AOC the other
day out there, large speech golling Trump a rapist.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Donald Trump is a criminal. He was found, he was
found guilty of thirty fourth selling accounts a fraud, found
liable for sexual abuse. And if he wants to find
the rapists and criminals in this country, you should look
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in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
We're not going to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I know that's heavy, and I know that's what we
all want.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's what I want. We have to defeat these people.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm not saying we were done, not saying that, but
there's not going to be any coming together with this
vein of communism. There's just not. They have to be defeated.
And look, don't dismiss AOC. We have a large percentage
of people out there supporting her, Democrats supporting her potentially
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running for the United States presidency.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We have members of the.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
American media, they're already getting practically giddy at the thought
of what she might do when she controls the Justice Department.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's Donald Trump. Well, what happens the next four years
from now when a Democrat isn't office. What happens when
President Alexandria Ocasio Cortes decides to use these same powers
that the President has now expanded by simply just pretending
not to pay attention to the rulings of the court.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
And it's true that when standards are eroded, they tend
to sell them come back and be reinstated.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I love it, and look, I did see this. I
wanted to bring this up. Far be it from me
to defend the man. But Hakeem Jeffries is the top
Democrat in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He's the minority leader, as you know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And Washington Free Beacon has a story out there about
confidence in him eroding, that he can't control things. Well,
I'm here to tell you again, I hate to defend him,
but what's happening right now cannot be controlled. This evil,
demonic strain of communism that now runs the Democrat Party,
it cannot be controlled. We better win because losing. Can't
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talk about something that is good. Right, There's always heavy stuff,
(15:06):
there's always a ton of work to do, but just
really quickly, you remember the whole signal chat leak thing
is it wasn't our finest hour.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We woke up one day and we found out that
a scumbag communist named Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic was
getting our national security texts.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Somehow someone had added him on it.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, it was a bad moment. It was a bad moment, right,
but it did produce something good from that moment the
Pentagon Pete hegseth his people. They knew they had a problem.
They knew they had a leak. And let me just
explain this briefly. There are leaks everywhere in this government.
There is this really really disgusting relationship at the highest
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levels of power between communists in the military and the FBI, CIA, NSA,
between communists in these organizations and members of the American media.
Lots of these guys have a media person they go to.
Remember when remember remember while we go in Tucker Carlson said, Hey,
we got confirmation the nssays spying on my emails. And
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then we woke up one morning and we were reading
Tucker Carlson's emails because the NSA had leaked them to
the American media. That's how it works, right. Well, not one,
not two, but now three of these alleged leakers have
been escorted out of the Pentagon. I know this sounds small,
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but we talk all the time. I talk all the
time to you about the cancers, the tumors we have
and how we have to cut them out, and how
we have to cut deep, and how we have to
remove this, and how we have to remove that, and
how we have well, this is what.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Cutting looks like. It's is it enough? Of course not?
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We have legions of these people to go, legions of them,
but we have to begin at the beginning. And right now,
the Trump administration knows, beyond the shadow of a doubt
they have traders throughout the administration. They're all over the Pentagon,
they're all over CIA, FBISA, all these groups, and you
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have to find them and you have to get them
out or they will destroy your presidency.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But that's not just me saying it. It's not just
you thinking it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
The Trump administration knows it, and they're doing something about it,
and that should make us feel good.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Is everything fixed? Of course not.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But they're doing something good and we're marching in the
right direction, and we should feel good about that.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
All right. That's all I wanted to say, just wanted
you to feel good about that. All right.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Let's talk about Tiss James maybe you heard she's in
a bit of trouble. Is she going to prison? Sir
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We'll be back.
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I've been trained by the best. I went to Howard
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taught in those classrooms with our good Marshall once taught
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I'm not afraid of no, President Donald Trump. We're ready
for you. We're coming for you, We're standing up for you.
We're fighting on. We're not going down.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
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Speaker 7 (19:48):
We saved this democracy before, we'll save it now.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't know if that was hard for you, but
it's hard for me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
If she was in my ear, almost had to take
this out and it's just so obnoxious. Shointing me now
by buddy Mike Cernovich, filmmaker author, actually has another one coming,
which I'm going to ask him about here in just
a moment. Mike, on top of the fact she's obnoxious,
what do you make of all this she going down
for mortgage fraud or something.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What's happening with all this?
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Yeah, everyone knows if your conservative.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
Filing for a mortgage application is very stressful because mortgage
brokers would just throw in any kind of number and
you have to say, no, you can't do this. Don't
get me involved in some kind of nonsense because your
scummy agency. And with Letitia James, it was she, not
the mortgage broker who falsified data allegedly, although it looks
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quite strong to me in a mortgage application, there were
multiple issues that could not be attributed to errors or
that she couldn't blame the mortgage broker for, and now
she is facing investigation for that as she's good.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, Mike, you're a lot more well versed in the
law and most things than I am.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
What's what are we looking on here? Is she going
to prison?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is she gonna get a little five hundred dollars fine?
What kind of charges are we looking at here for
this stuff?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Well?
Speaker 9 (21:15):
They can if you look at how they charge cases,
these can be charged aggressively because they can be charged
not just this mortgage fraud, but all some money laundering.
And if you look at how they charge the Trump cases.
You can make it a very simple case that would
plead down to a misdemeanor, or they could make it
multiple felonies. Because the Nash case I think was illustrative.
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D Nash was indicted for allegedly using straw donors to
help a friend's campaign, and he said, I'm going to
go to trial. So then what happened was the SDN
y under that really scuzzy guy, I forget his name,
but he really is a real scummy lowlife guy, and
then he refiled the case to say, well, because you
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use straw donors, you knowingly got someone to file a
federal tax return that was false, and that's a mandatory
minimum of five years. And that's why Denesh ended up
pleading guilty. So there are a lot of different ways
that cases like these can be charged. Ordinarily, it would
be a felony that you would plead down to a
misdemeanor and she would have to be disbarred because it
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would be considered a crime of moral turpitude since it
was a financial fraud.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
So if I'm boring, you just interrupt me.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
But if you're a lawyer, you're not just subject to
the criminal laws of the land, of course, but you're
subject to state our jurisdiction. So if you file a
false mortgage application that isn't your mortgage broker doing funny
business after you've filled it out honestly, then you would
be guilty of a crime of moral turpitude because that
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would be financial fraud, and then of course you would
be disbarred. Although as we've seen, the states like California
and New York and DC have a different set of
standards for Democrat lawyers and for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, what a shock.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
All right, Look, Hey, I'm thrilled that at least one
scumbag might be facing some form of justice. Right, I'll
take anything I can get at this point in time.
What do you make right now of the job Pam
BONDI we're going to focus on her specifically, of the
job she's doing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm doing the best I can to be patient, and
I'm telling myself every night, Mike when I go to bed,
that she's just busy crossing the t's and dot in
the eyes, and government indictments are coming down soon. This
government person's going to be arrested, and this government person's
going to be arrested. That's what I tell myself so
I can sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Mike, what do you think.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Well, I don't want to play the whole as a
lawyer card because I never like to do that because
I'm not Douglas Murray. But I'll say that as a lawyer.
So it took you a second, you got that one.
So as a lawyer with a fair amount of expertise
on these issues, the issue that you have is, and
Trump really had this problem in his first term, is
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all of the Department of Justice lawyer were pro Biden regime.
So Biden comes in, he has this fascist attorney general
and he's got all the line lawyers ready to file paperwork. Well,
instead of those line lawyers properly enforcing the law under BONDI,
they're sabotaging, they're slow walking, a bunch of them are resigning.
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They're all running through New York Times and throwing tantrums.
So they just don't have the manpower that you would thank.
Ed Martin, for example, is his nomination to a US
attorney for the District of Columbia is being held up
by Adam Schiff, a Russiagate collusion hoaxer. So if you're
on the outside, you would say, my goodness, why is
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it that there were almost one hundred Jay six ers
already indicted at this time during Biden's administration and we
can barely get someone on a very clean case of
mortgage fraud. And the answer is because every attorney hiring process,
starting under Barack Obama and the FBI and the DOJ
was to get people into the stossi. So they were
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all on board, they're ready to go, they're ready to
frame people for crimes, and the Body administration is having
trouble at getting lawyers even confirmed to positions where they're needed.
So this is I'm not a plan truster, everybody. I
always tell people go read what I had to say
about Trump during his first term, because people even try
to dig up tweets to get one over on me,
and I was like, oh no, I was very frustrated.
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I'm not a plan truster. But in this case, you
really have You have Mangino, you have cash, and then
you have everybody in there who's the stassi. And if
you look at Christopher Ray bragged about it. I believe
forty percent of current FBI employees were hired during the
Biden regime.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Right, It's going to take.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
A long time to unravel this and find out who's
good and who isn't. So I think people should continue
being aggressive in a civil way about these issues. But
I don't think it's fair to compare the timeline of
the Trump set term with the Biden regimes first term.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Is it reasonable to assume we will get these things
at some.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Point in the next four years or is it too
far gone? Mike?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And I'm almost scared to ask the question because I'm
afraid I think I.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Already know what the answer is.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Are there too many cancers in place to be removed?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:26):
The difficult question, and I think about this a lot too,
is we're certainly not going to get what we want,
but we're we're already getting things. Brian Atten, who is
a would terrorize, you know, innocent Christian people. Chuck grassly
revealed him as one of the guys responsible for the
Hunter Biden laptop cover up scheme. He's been removed, So
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things are happening, but it's unfortunate that we're fighting personnel
decisions that we're a decade in the making. They are
all these FBI agents and dj officials. Some of them
have civil service protections, so you can just come in
and remove them. Judges are jamming everything up. What we
have to do is take the wins that we can,
(27:07):
and we have to keep pushing. I do like the
idea of impeaching judges, not because I think the Senate
will convict them, because they absolutely will not, but because
it'll give Congress jurisdiction to issue subpoenas. So if I'm
you and I'm talking to Chip Roy and I'm talking
to I'm not just saying like in the hypothetical world.
If I'm talking to these guys, I would say, look,
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we know the Senate's not going to convict Boseburg.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
We know this. But the only way that we can.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Get jurisdiction and start issuing subpoenas to find out what
is happening in that DC Stasse show trial Stalin Fiefdom
is to is to investigate impeachment, because then we have
congressional oversight, we have congressional subpoena power. Then we can
issue subpoenas to Judge Boseburg and say, how is it
that these cases are randomly assigned? But you always seem
(27:55):
to get them. Do you have the luckiest hand in
the world. Should you start playing the lottery? Should you
go to Vegas because you'd be a billionaire, become a stocktriator.
How is it that you're getting all these randomly assigned things.
As of right now, no one has jurisdiction to demand answers.
A Congress member Jim Jim Jordan or Chip Roy or
somebody can't just write a letter and get that information.
But if there's an impeachment inquiry and there's a committee,
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that committee absolutely has jurisdiction and they can start issuing subpoenas,
and I can tell you that will put the fear
of God into John Roberts and these DC judges. They
will know that they have to respond to these subpoenas
or else the judges can be held in contempt by
Congress and then they can be indicted the way Steve
Bannon was indicted for contempt of Congress.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
So we one hundred percent what we need to do.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
The best thing we can do right now is say, look,
we know, we know Mitch isn't going to convict any
of these judges.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Irrelevant, irrelevant.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
This is about Congress having jurisdiction and oversight and the
power to start issuing subpoenas, to get these judges under
oath and to get this under control.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Who's guns Allo Leira.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Question?
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Apparently nobody knows because there was a guy who writes
for the Atlantic and he's always talking about how great
Ukraine democracy is, and I go, what about gonzal Era,
And then he's sanctimoniously says, well, how do you expect
me to know about everybody? And then he said, I
bet you that people at the Orange County shopping malls
that you go to don't know who he is. Like, yeah, dumb, dumb,
(29:22):
You're proven my point. You guys had a media blackout
on Gonzala Lira. And I consider Gonzala Lira the litmus
test for whether I consider someone to be a propagandist
or a person who has a good faith debate with
me about.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Ukraine, a good faith disagreement.
Speaker 9 (29:40):
You could say, as you you know you, and I
could just say, hey, what was what was he doing
going to Ukraine making videos calling Zelenski a dictator?
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Right, He's lucky he didn't get beat up.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
But then they kill them. They took him prisoner when
he was trying to leave the country. This is all
on video, and the Zelenski regime and the Ukrainians were
so chotic. Then instead of saying, thank goodness, we got
rid of this wacko, get him out of the country.
What a problem, right, they instead decided to kidnap him,
torture him, and kill him. And then, of course when asked,
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they'll say he had a medical condition. When that he
would say, well, why didn't you get a medical treatment
in the US. So Gonzala Liira is an American who
made YouTube videos that the Zlynsky regime didn't like. He
was held in custody. He tried to leave the country
when he was more or less told to by Ukrainian
law enforcement, who said it would be a good idea
if you kind of just disappeared. He tried to leave,
(30:35):
He documented it all, and then he died in a hospital,
a victim of torture of the Zelensky regime. The great
Democracy and our great Western ally.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Are good friends. Are good friends. Mike, what's this movie?
Are you allowed to talk about it yet? Or am
I not supposed to ask?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I didn't text you before.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
I'm working on two. Yeah, I'm working on two one
is still under wraps. But the big one we're doing
is about the met of life, and it's called Meaning
one word, and it's about the meaning of life. We
just spent two months in the Amazon looking at what
might have been megalist with Timothy Albarino, tracing the you know,
the origin of humanity. We looked at some people doing ayahuasca,
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talked to ayahuasca. People were going to churches. We're going
to We're talking to people of all different kinds of life.
And trying to make a movie, which is an ambitious project.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Is one way to put it.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Causes me a lot of stress would be another way
to put it, like, oh, I'm going to make a
movie about the meaning of life. What a Doucheeroni, right,
my god, you know what a what a douche? Well,
that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Though, Gosh, I want to go to the Amazon. Mike.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I'll talk to you again soon, brother. I appreciate you,
all right. I bet he slept good last night. I
slept good last night, Remember yesterday, But I told you
I didn't sleep And what did I tell you? I
didn't have any beam. I didn't make that mistake. Last night, went.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Home a little dinner.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Mom came over, hung out, watched a baseball game with
ob mom kids about nine thirty, got myself a little
cup of hot chocolate.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Only my hot chocolate is special.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's got dream powder in it, chocolate, cinnamon.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's delicious. You would never know it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
If you sip on it, you would just say, wow,
that's delicious hot chocolate. But you will drift off to
sleep shortly afterwards. But there are lots of things that
help you sleep. The thing that makes dream powder so
amazing is how you feel when you wake up. You
don't feel drugged. How many things do you take to sleep?
You wake up you don't feel good, feel tired and groggy.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Not with dreampowder.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Go get some shotbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly gets
you up to forty percent off.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
The border is closed, by the grace of God. I
can't even believe I'm saying that the border is actually
closed in the United States of America. How did that happen?
Because it didn't happen in the previous four years.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
How did it happen? How did it happen so fast?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Joining me now senior advisor to US Customs and Border Protection,
also former chief at Border Patrol, Ron Vittello Ron, How
exactly do you go from record border crossings to virtually
nothing in one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
How'd that happen?
Speaker 10 (33:33):
Well, you get a new president who assigns leaders that
know what they're doing, like Christy Nome, and you give
the frontline the tools and the know how, like they
already know how to do this, right, You got to
get out of their way and let them do the job.
And then you add the assets from the inner agency.
And that's every single department in the government, the Treasury Department,
the Justice Department, the Department of Defense, HHS, all of
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them are pointing in the direction to help the frontline
succeed in way that I've never seen in over thirty
plus years, both on the front line in the headquarters
and now as a senior advisor at CBP.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's wonderful to see now.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
There is a lot more to do with.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Regard to criminal cartels, with regard to detention space, with
regard to interior enforcement, but we are well on our
way to making the border a much safer place thereby
protecting the homeland in ways that weren't possible under the
first under the last president.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Ron I understand that there are going to be limits
on what you can tell us, and that's obviously fine.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't want you to step out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
But as far as the cartels go, we were told
that we're going to go after them hard, and I
know they have been. What have we done and what
are we intending to do as far as the limits
on what you can tell us.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
Well, what we've done is taken them off the field
in regard to what areas they control in the southwest border.
The front line of DHS, along with our heroes and
the military partnered with DoD are now in control of
the line. We know what happens when it happens, and
are able to respond. When people still try to invade
the country, they're arrested quickly and with the help of ICE,
(35:10):
with the help of the State Department, with the help
of the military, they're also being removed quickly. And there's
a military to military relationship that has never existed in
my time in government, and so our military is helping
the Mexican military trusted invented units to do things in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Again that I've never seen before.
Speaker 10 (35:30):
Mexico also has ten thousand National Guard troops deployed on
their northern border, our southern border, helping exchange information, mirrored patrols,
and all the things that keep the smugglers from being
in control of that territory and allow the authorities to
control it and regulate it, and so things that were
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happening just before January twentieth are not happening on the
southwest border anymore. Again, there's still a lot to do
right These cartails are not going to pull up their
operations and just leave. They're going to continue to exploit
ways that they confine to get into the country and
apply their trade. They're going to look for other avenues
in the United States, and we know some of those tactics.
Tunnels are very popular amongst the high level cartels in Mexico.
(36:14):
They use drones now aircraft. We'll have to watch the
littorals around San Diego, in Brownsville, Texas, the Caribbean, and
our East coast. But all of those things are in
the toolkit now at DHS across the board with their
interagency partners, and it'll just remain to be seeing what
the reaction of the cartel is but again, an unprecedented
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cooperation amongst the inner agency in the US and things
that Mexico is doing that they've never done before.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Ron, how reliant are we on the military specifically in
order to get this border secure? And I ask, it's
a completely loaded question, because to be honest, I don't
want them to have to be there. I'm totally okay
with them being there pretending the country. Don't get me wrong,
But the Border Patrol knows how to trol of the border.
I wish we didn't have to supplement it with the military.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
How much are they handling This is.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
A very good question. So there are ten thousand troops
on the border. We're using military flights to help repatriate
people that are in custody at ice and inside a CVP.
But yeah, it's ten thousand. They fortified the border, They've
put up a bunch of sea wire, they're doing patrols,
they're doing intelligence collection, they're monitoring our censors for US.
(37:25):
But you're right, you know, even under you a supportive president,
more needs to be done as relates to the capabilities
given by the Borderatrol maybe left behind by the military,
And so is this a longer term strategy. I agree
with you. We want them focus on threats that only
they can cover. We're grateful for their help now, but
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we want this to be able to be sustained in
a way that allows the border patrol in the front
line of DHS to do all of the things and
only call on the military when it's absolutely necessary and
get them focused on peer to peer threats and other
threats that are.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
In the country.
Speaker 10 (38:03):
But we're grateful to have them. But I do think
that sustainability over the long term requires domestic law enforcement
to be primary at the border, as it was most
of the time.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Talk to me about Mexico's southern border, if you will,
because obviously all those caravans, those thousands and thousands of
people had to get through that one before they could
get to our southern border.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
What's the status down there, right? So again, leadership matters here.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
The President has leveraged the thought of tariffs on goods
from Mexico. We are their number one trading partner. They
must do business in the United States for their economy
to succeed and have the working class have jobs. In Mexico,
it's as much smaller border between Guatemala and Mexico easier
to control. When they control their own border, it brings revenue.
(38:55):
Like US, it brings revenue into the treasury. And so
with the threat of terraces, tariffs, their recognition of the
shared responsibility for the flow through Mexico, they're controlling the
border in ways that they have it before. I'm not
aware directly of their deployments on their southern border, but
again it's much more easily controlled there. And when the
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policies in the United States do not encourage people to
come in to the United States to cross that border illegally,
everybody sees less activity in the pipeline, the illicit activity,
human trafficking, fetanyl, etc.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Etc.
Speaker 10 (39:30):
All of those things are trending in the right direction,
including what's happening inside of Mexico.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Ron, can you speak at all about what's happening inside
our border.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I know the border is locked down.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
But we have millions some say twenty, who knows what
the number is millions that were brought in just under
Joe Biden, when not even talking about the kids. Three
hundred thousand is a laughably low number. We have a
country full of illegals. Now, how do we get them out.
Where are they?
Speaker 10 (40:00):
So ICE has embarked on the largest interior enforcement operation
for many decades, certainly the most in the last ten
years or so, and so they are targeting people who
are in the country illegally have also committed crimes in
their communities. Those at large arrests are approaching fifty thousand.
(40:20):
Overall removals between ICE and CBP is well over one
hundred thousand. Again, a lot more to do. They need
to scale up those operations. Congress needs to step in
and give them the resources that they need to do
this more often. We also see the interagency cooperating there.
But what they're doing is they're targeting criminals who are
in the United States, including those that live and are
being sanctuaried by cities who flout the rule of law
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and immigration authority. But they are conducting those at large
arrests more in the last several months than in the
entirety of the Biden administration. So again, more to do,
but they're focused on the worst of the worst, and
then over time that the aperture will expand to work
on other illegal populations. We're also doing the CBP home
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app people who are in the country illegally they wish
to go back without consequence, they can raise their hand
inside the app and ask for assistance on travel documents
or being able to pay for airline tickets. Many people
are electing to self deport just trying to sneak into
Canada or just getting on airplanes and leaving. Thousands of
people have already done that, so there's a full court
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press against the Inner Agency.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
The Secretary has also.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
Warned people who are in the country illegal that they
must register with the government. If they don't do that,
they face financial penalties besides the knock on the door
and on the path to removal in deportation, and so
there's a number of ways people can leave if they
want to. And then we will see the Justice Department
pressure more on these sanctuary jurisdictions so that ICE agents
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and officers can use local authorities and arrest people in
jails that are also in the country illegally who have
committed crimes. And so all of those things in play
for the popular that exists right now.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
In the US.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Okay Ron final question, Tom Holman was discussing sanctuary cities.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 11 (42:09):
I thought the books that make it a criminal offense
to shield or harbor illegally immigrants like the sanctuary state
city leaders.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Can do it.
Speaker 11 (42:17):
Do you think they should be prosecuted with both said
law and positively book.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Worthing absolutely and hold tight on that one because it's coming.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's coming. I've been clearing asking day one.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
What can be done against these sanctuary cities. I'm well
aware that these sanctuary cities, they study the law, they
try to dance through that minefield so they can protect
illegals without violating the law.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
What can we do well?
Speaker 10 (42:47):
I think the ultimate fix would be Congress coming in
and making it illegal for jurisdictions to harbor people or
to to negate federal law by letting people who are
in custody out without cooperating with ICE. You could legislate
what used to be called the Secure Communities Program, probably
the most effective post nine to eleven program that allowed
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local officers to nominate people who were born outside of
the United States directly to ICE. ICE could file a
detainer electronically, and there was there was a pipeline, if
you will, out of the jail, out of the country.
Speaker 8 (43:19):
So you could re establish that through.
Speaker 10 (43:20):
Legislation in the meantime, any but any official or not
that gets in the way of Ice conducting their work
or harbor's illegal aliens in the United States can and
should be prosecuted. They will be prosecuted under the current
efforts underway in the interior. And then the Justice Department
can do things like restrict government grants. Restrict Justice Department
grants to these sanctuaries in order to get them to cooperate.
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Ask ask them if they they will cooperate, have these
agreements under two eighty seven G. If they don't do that,
make them in some way through the legal process. Ultimately,
Congress could seal this deal by putting this to bed
with legislation, which obviously would be challenged in the courts,
but that would be the most permanent way to fix it.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Fingers crossed, Ron, thank you for what you do. Please
keep to keep keeping us safe. All Right, we have
a light in the mood. I'm already laughing about it.
Next all right, it's time to lighten the mood. And
(44:27):
I know it's a couple of days old, but I'm sorry,
I cannot stop laughing about that space flight where the
women went up into space and didn't do anything. They
just sat in a capsule, strapped in and went up
into space for eleven minutes and then came back.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Down, which, look, that would be cool.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I'm not even dogging on them for taking the trip, right, Okay,
you took a cool trip up into space. I bet
you got a good picture with your iPhone or whatever.
It's cool, it's cool, but it's pretending like you accomplished something.
That's that's what's so hilarious to me.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It obnoxious.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And now they're getting offended by people who, well, here
was Gail King.
Speaker 12 (45:05):
And I'm so proud of us. I really am proud
of me because I never in a gazillion years thought
I could do this. I don't like that people are
calling it a ride a ride. You know, you never
see a man, a male astronaut who's going up in
space and they said, oh, he took a ride. But
it's not just the young girls.
Speaker 8 (45:22):
We're also encouraging.
Speaker 12 (45:23):
I mean, the boys look at it and see what
women and young girls can do. So, you know, I
know there are cranky Yankees, I know there's some haters,
but I'm not gonna let people steal my joy.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'm so proud of me. I can't believe I didn't.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I'm actually no one says this about the men.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
The men are doing something. The men are at least
having to move this and press a button to do this. Here,
you didn't do anything anyway, I'm sorry. I find it hilarious.
I'll see the ble
Let's look back, shall we? Not ancient history, Let's look
back now that Joe Biden is back in the Linemight
we'll do that tonight. We'll talk to Cernovich about what's
going on with Tiss James, Did we find a mole
inside the Pentagon? All that more coming up on I'm
right now, Joe Biden's back. I'll tell you what. We'll
(00:29):
get to that in a second. You ever look at
an aging rock star or actor actress and I have
an aged well, if you will, you can just tell
life's been hard. That's been some hard living. They're fifty
five going on eighty five, and you say to yourself,
(00:52):
I am their body has had some abuse to it.
Mickey Rourke's actually gonna sorry not to pick on Mickey Rourke,
who I actually like him as an actor. But you
ever seen Mickey Rourke. Now you look and you think, man,
his body's been through through some things. And you ever
wonder what what was it? What are the things that's
(01:15):
been through?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, it's helpful to figure out what that is.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You see, when you're talking about yourself, when you're talking
about a country, how did we get here as a country?
How did we get to this state of decay. How
did we get to a place where half the country
hates it the rest of us are trying.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
To save it? Had Well, look, we can't.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Discount the role Joe Biden's four years in office played,
because there is Joe Biden's four years. Things accelerated to
a level that shocked everybody, including me. And you know
how evil I talk about these communists being you and
I talk about this all the time, and of course
they are evil. They're evil, they're sick, they're depraved, they're destructive.
(01:56):
But even I would wake up on days when Joe
Biden was president and I would just flabbergasted by the
naked power, the evil of the entire thing. And of
course Joe Biden's back. Now, now, why is Joe Biden back?
Did Joe Biden wake up one day on the beach
in Delaware, wipe the drool off his face and says, Jill,
(02:18):
you know what, I just I want to get back.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
In the game. No, of course not. We all know what.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Joe Biden's mental state is. It's a disaster. Joe Biden
is not celebrating this at all. But Joe Biden is
in the final years of his life. That's how it
goes when when you get that age and your mind
starts to go that way. We're all gonna die one day,
and maybe we're all die in that way. But Joe
(02:45):
Biden does not have a lot of time left on
this planet. He said, it does not, and I'm sure he,
like most people, would like to spend his final days resting.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
On the beach. I don't know, but we all know
pushed him back in.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Jill Biden loved the White House, loved being first Lady,
loved the power, loved the recognition. Remember she used to
host cabinet meetings, give speeches all the time. Her husband
humiliated himself on the national stage in front of the
entire planet on a debate during a debate with Donald Trump,
(03:23):
and Joe Biden still wanted him to run again. I mean,
it's just a soulless monster, just a fame hungry monster, right,
So I'm sure this was all Jeel's doing. It's just
my guests, but I would guess this is all Jiels doing.
And Joe, you got go give a speech, and well,
let's remember this guy was president for four years.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Everyone, everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, regardless of
their standing, regardless of the economic tisery, regardless of who
they are. People can't sign under their accounts. What do
you think it does to that woman's living alone that
seventy four years check and just not able to even
(04:04):
find out whether she can't even find out what that
this spoony claim is. Yet, think of what the psychic
calm give so many people who just don't know where
to go, don't know how to traverse what it needs
to be done. We're alone?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What, Oh, that's me what he said? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I listened to that four times, Matt producer, Matt cut
that up and set it over. I listened four times.
I still don't know what he said. I don't know,
you don't know. But of course he was the commander
in chief for four years, four years, and this is why,
this is why things accelerated to a level that shocked you,
(04:51):
that shocked me for that four years, because he was
never president of the United States of America. You know that,
it's not just towards the end, it was never president.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He was never.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Strong enough to control the savages in the Democrat Party.
He was a placeholder, and he essentially sat there drooling
on himself while the most evil maoists in the United
States of America did well, I mean everything they could
with no breaks. Joe Biden's presidency was the no breaks
on communism presidency. It was a lovely little window into
(05:24):
what that looks like. You want the Justice Department to
graft your political opponents, go ahead, send the FBI to
raid the Republican nominees home, no problem.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It was just all gas, no breaks on it.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And look, poor Joe, you can't you can't include. I
realize it's the Democrat party and so they have to
pick at the scabs of racism that otherwise they wouldn't
even be a party if they couldn't get people worked
up about race. But you can't ask Joe to make
speeches about buses full of the black kids, because he's
gonna say something like this.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Remember pulling in, pulling into the parking lot, and I
had never seen I'd never seen hardly any black people
and scranting at the time when I and I was
only going in fourth grade. And I remember seeing the
kids going by at the time, called colored kids on
a bus going by. They never turned right to go
to claimont high school. I wondered, why, asked my mom,
(06:21):
why so on Delaware's I'm not allowed to go to
school in public school with white kids.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Honey, Obviously, get another made up story. None of that
conversation never, never happened. Joe Biden can't remember how to
pronounce a sentence. I'm reasonably sure he doesn't remember a
conversation he had with his mother in the fourth grade
about the about being you know, the saintly guy who
wants the black kids to go to school with the
(06:47):
white kids. But all that aside, that person pretended to
be president for four years.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
But let's not. Let's not take.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
All of the blame off of Joe Biden's shoulders and
hand it out to the communists who surrounded him, Because
there is something that's undeniably true about Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Is a jerk.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And I say it in this way. He's well known,
well known. I now because of this job, I have,
I have sources all over Capitol Hill, Senate offices and
House offices and all kinds of people. It's one of
those things. It's well known. Joe Biden has always been
a jerk to everybody. He's a jerk to his staff,
(07:30):
he's a jerk. To the media, he's just a nasty
human being. And there's decades old video which we've played
for you a thousand times before, of Joe Biden talking
down the people, being a jerk to people. The media
had to present him as this kindly, stintly old man
because they were trying to do a Yin and Yang
thing with Trump. Look how me and Trump is Look
(07:50):
at this, isn't it time for somebody nice? But Joe
Biden is a jerk and always has been. And he
took the communist speech writers of his and he married
the communist speech writers and their evil with his natural
tendencies towards being a jerk. And what he did was
something I have never seen in the entire history of
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America's presidency.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I've never seen it before.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I've never ever seen a president this comfortable talking down
to huge portions of the population.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's never been this divided.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Granted it's roughly thirty percent, but it's a thirty percent
that has no heart.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I understand if you were if you're young, it's not
insulting you just haven't You haven't experienced everything older folks
have that you may not realize how stunning that is.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm forty three years old.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No Democrat, no Republican president in my forty three years
on this planet has ever said anything like that. It's
just something it was always on understood you don't do
as president, even if they say it privately, and of
course they did. Democrats go privately and they dog cust
Republicans and Republicans privately, they'll.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Dog cust Democrats.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
An American president, no matter the party, does not ever
look at a huge portion of the country and talk
down to them and act like they're worthless. That has
never happened in my forty three years. And I've talked
to so many older folks, my parents included, and they
echoed that. They said, well, Jesse were in our seventy
I've never seen it in my entire life. We've had
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good presidents, bad presidents. That doesn't happen. But that's a
huge portion of why we are divided, why the lines
are where they are. And it wasn't just that he
would give speeches talking about half the country as if
they're worthless, they're stupid.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What did he say during the campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The only garbage Icee or his supporters talking about Trump
supporters the garbage Icee called us garbage.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It wasn't just that.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Joe Biden, emboldened by the communists around him, did something else.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I've never seen, and I've looked.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't think this has ever happened in the history
of America's presidency.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Remember how we used to threaten us all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Donald Trump and the Maga Republicans represented extremism that threatens
the very foundations of our republic. You've been patient, but
our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost
all of us. And by the way, if they want
to think to take on government, if we get out
of line which they're talking on again about, well guess
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what they need at fifteen's They don't need a rifle.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That line is a line I've heard Democrats use a lot.
You want to take on the government, you better get
some nukes. That's what Eric Swalwell said. Joe Biden used
that last line repeatedly. Let's again, because this is about
where we are?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Why are we where we are?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The American president as just it was a talking point
he would use repeatedly and thought it was okay to
tell the American people if they step out of line.
He'll send fighter jets after us. That's what he's saying.
Watch yourself, I'll send some F fifteen's after you. That
is such an insane departure from where this country's ever
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been and now here we are. Got AOC the other
day out there, large speech golling Trump a rapist.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Donald Trump is a criminal. He was found, he was
found guilty of thirty fourth selling accounts a fraud, found
liable for sexual abuse. And if he wants to find
the rapists and criminals in this country, you should look
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in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
We're not going to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I know that's heavy, and I know that's what we
all want.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's what I want. We have to defeat these people.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm not saying we were done, not saying that, but
there's not going to be any coming together with this
vein of communism. There's just not. They have to be defeated.
And look, don't dismiss AOC. We have a large percentage
of people out there supporting her, Democrats supporting her potentially
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running for the United States presidency.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We have members of the.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
American media, they're already getting practically giddy at the thought
of what she might do when she controls the Justice Department.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's Donald Trump. Well, what happens the next four years
from now when a Democrat isn't office. What happens when
President Alexandria Ocasio Cortes decides to use these same powers
that the President has now expanded by simply just pretending
not to pay attention to the rulings of the court.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
And it's true that when standards are eroded, they tend
to sell them come back and be reinstated.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I love it, and look, I did see this. I
wanted to bring this up. Far be it from me
to defend the man. But Hakeem Jeffries is the top
Democrat in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He's the minority leader, as you know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And Washington Free Beacon has a story out there about
confidence in him eroding, that he can't control things. Well,
I'm here to tell you again, I hate to defend him,
but what's happening right now cannot be controlled. This evil,
demonic strain of communism that now runs the Democrat Party,
it cannot be controlled. We better win because losing. Can't
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talk about something that is good. Right, There's always heavy stuff,
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there's always a ton of work to do, but just
really quickly, you remember the whole signal chat leak thing
is it wasn't our finest hour.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We woke up one day and we found out that
a scumbag communist named Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic was
getting our national security texts.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Somehow someone had added him on it.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, it was a bad moment. It was a bad moment, right,
but it did produce something good from that moment the
Pentagon Pete hegseth his people. They knew they had a problem.
They knew they had a leak. And let me just
explain this briefly. There are leaks everywhere in this government.
There is this really really disgusting relationship at the highest
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levels of power between communists in the military and the FBI, CIA, NSA,
between communists in these organizations and members of the American media.
Lots of these guys have a media person they go to.
Remember when remember remember while we go in Tucker Carlson said, Hey,
we got confirmation the nssays spying on my emails. And
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then we woke up one morning and we were reading
Tucker Carlson's emails because the NSA had leaked them to
the American media. That's how it works, right. Well, not one,
not two, but now three of these alleged leakers have
been escorted out of the Pentagon. I know this sounds small,
(16:35):
but we talk all the time. I talk all the
time to you about the cancers, the tumors we have
and how we have to cut them out, and how
we have to cut deep, and how we have to
remove this, and how we have to remove that, and
how we have well, this is what.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Cutting looks like. It's is it enough? Of course not?
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We have legions of these people to go, legions of them,
but we have to begin at the beginning. And right now,
the Trump administration knows, beyond the shadow of a doubt
they have traders throughout the administration. They're all over the Pentagon,
they're all over CIA, FBISA, all these groups, and you
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have to find them and you have to get them
out or they will destroy your presidency.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But that's not just me saying it. It's not just
you thinking it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
The Trump administration knows it, and they're doing something about it,
and that should make us feel good.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Is everything fixed? Of course not.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But they're doing something good and we're marching in the
right direction, and we should feel good about that.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
All right. That's all I wanted to say, just wanted
you to feel good about that. All right.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Let's talk about Tiss James maybe you heard she's in
a bit of trouble. Is she going to prison? Sir
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We'll be back.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
My mission is clear. I'm focused, I'm prepared, I'm ready.
I've been trained by the best. I went to Howard
University that overturned legal segregation in this country. I've been
taught in those classrooms with our good Marshall once taught
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I'm not afraid of no, President Donald Trump. We're ready
for you. We're coming for you, We're standing up for you.
We're fighting on. We're not going down.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Sailing victory, my friends, is clear. It's now and I'm
not waiting four years. I'm waiting two. I tell us
speak about the name of Hi. King Jeffries comes to
bring us some rest. Come on, ladies, it's up to us.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
We saved this democracy before, we'll save it now.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't know if that was hard for you, but
it's hard for me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
If she was in my ear, almost had to take
this out and it's just so obnoxious. Shointing me now
by buddy Mike Cernovich, filmmaker author, actually has another one coming,
which I'm going to ask him about here in just
a moment. Mike, on top of the fact she's obnoxious,
what do you make of all this she going down
for mortgage fraud or something.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What's happening with all this?
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Yeah, everyone knows if your conservative.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
Filing for a mortgage application is very stressful because mortgage
brokers would just throw in any kind of number and
you have to say, no, you can't do this. Don't
get me involved in some kind of nonsense because your
scummy agency. And with Letitia James, it was she, not
the mortgage broker who falsified data allegedly, although it looks
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quite strong to me in a mortgage application, there were
multiple issues that could not be attributed to errors or
that she couldn't blame the mortgage broker for, and now
she is facing investigation for that as she's good.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, Mike, you're a lot more well versed in the
law and most things than I am.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
What's what are we looking on here? Is she going
to prison?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is she gonna get a little five hundred dollars fine?
What kind of charges are we looking at here for
this stuff?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Well?
Speaker 9 (21:15):
They can if you look at how they charge cases,
these can be charged aggressively because they can be charged
not just this mortgage fraud, but all some money laundering.
And if you look at how they charge the Trump cases.
You can make it a very simple case that would
plead down to a misdemeanor, or they could make it
multiple felonies. Because the Nash case I think was illustrative.
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D Nash was indicted for allegedly using straw donors to
help a friend's campaign, and he said, I'm going to
go to trial. So then what happened was the SDN
y under that really scuzzy guy, I forget his name,
but he really is a real scummy lowlife guy, and
then he refiled the case to say, well, because you
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use straw donors, you knowingly got someone to file a
federal tax return that was false, and that's a mandatory
minimum of five years. And that's why Denesh ended up
pleading guilty. So there are a lot of different ways
that cases like these can be charged. Ordinarily, it would
be a felony that you would plead down to a
misdemeanor and she would have to be disbarred because it
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would be considered a crime of moral turpitude since it
was a financial fraud.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
So if I'm boring, you just interrupt me.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
But if you're a lawyer, you're not just subject to
the criminal laws of the land, of course, but you're
subject to state our jurisdiction. So if you file a
false mortgage application that isn't your mortgage broker doing funny
business after you've filled it out honestly, then you would
be guilty of a crime of moral turpitude because that
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would be financial fraud, and then of course you would
be disbarred. Although as we've seen, the states like California
and New York and DC have a different set of
standards for Democrat lawyers and for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, what a shock.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
All right, Look, Hey, I'm thrilled that at least one
scumbag might be facing some form of justice. Right, I'll
take anything I can get at this point in time.
What do you make right now of the job Pam
BONDI we're going to focus on her specifically, of the
job she's doing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm doing the best I can to be patient, and
I'm telling myself every night, Mike when I go to bed,
that she's just busy crossing the t's and dot in
the eyes, and government indictments are coming down soon. This
government person's going to be arrested, and this government person's
going to be arrested. That's what I tell myself so
I can sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Mike, what do you think.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Well, I don't want to play the whole as a
lawyer card because I never like to do that because
I'm not Douglas Murray. But I'll say that as a lawyer.
So it took you a second, you got that one.
So as a lawyer with a fair amount of expertise
on these issues, the issue that you have is, and
Trump really had this problem in his first term, is
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all of the Department of Justice lawyer were pro Biden regime.
So Biden comes in, he has this fascist attorney general
and he's got all the line lawyers ready to file paperwork. Well,
instead of those line lawyers properly enforcing the law under BONDI,
they're sabotaging, they're slow walking, a bunch of them are resigning.
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They're all running through New York Times and throwing tantrums.
So they just don't have the manpower that you would thank.
Ed Martin, for example, is his nomination to a US
attorney for the District of Columbia is being held up
by Adam Schiff, a Russiagate collusion hoaxer. So if you're
on the outside, you would say, my goodness, why is
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it that there were almost one hundred Jay six ers
already indicted at this time during Biden's administration and we
can barely get someone on a very clean case of
mortgage fraud. And the answer is because every attorney hiring process,
starting under Barack Obama and the FBI and the DOJ
was to get people into the stossi. So they were
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all on board, they're ready to go, they're ready to
frame people for crimes, and the Body administration is having
trouble at getting lawyers even confirmed to positions where they're needed.
So this is I'm not a plan truster, everybody. I
always tell people go read what I had to say
about Trump during his first term, because people even try
to dig up tweets to get one over on me,
and I was like, oh no, I was very frustrated.
(25:25):
I'm not a plan truster. But in this case, you
really have You have Mangino, you have cash, and then
you have everybody in there who's the stassi. And if
you look at Christopher Ray bragged about it. I believe
forty percent of current FBI employees were hired during the
Biden regime.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Right, It's going to take.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
A long time to unravel this and find out who's
good and who isn't. So I think people should continue
being aggressive in a civil way about these issues. But
I don't think it's fair to compare the timeline of
the Trump set term with the Biden regimes first term.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Is it reasonable to assume we will get these things
at some.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Point in the next four years or is it too
far gone? Mike?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And I'm almost scared to ask the question because I'm
afraid I think I.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Already know what the answer is.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Are there too many cancers in place to be removed?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:26):
The difficult question, and I think about this a lot too,
is we're certainly not going to get what we want,
but we're we're already getting things. Brian Atten, who is
a would terrorize, you know, innocent Christian people. Chuck grassly
revealed him as one of the guys responsible for the
Hunter Biden laptop cover up scheme. He's been removed, So
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things are happening, but it's unfortunate that we're fighting personnel
decisions that we're a decade in the making. They are
all these FBI agents and dj officials. Some of them
have civil service protections, so you can just come in
and remove them. Judges are jamming everything up. What we
have to do is take the wins that we can,
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and we have to keep pushing. I do like the
idea of impeaching judges, not because I think the Senate
will convict them, because they absolutely will not, but because
it'll give Congress jurisdiction to issue subpoenas. So if I'm
you and I'm talking to Chip Roy and I'm talking
to I'm not just saying like in the hypothetical world.
If I'm talking to these guys, I would say, look,
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we know the Senate's not going to convict Boseburg.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
We know this. But the only way that we can.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Get jurisdiction and start issuing subpoenas to find out what
is happening in that DC Stasse show trial Stalin Fiefdom
is to is to investigate impeachment, because then we have
congressional oversight, we have congressional subpoena power. Then we can
issue subpoenas to Judge Boseburg and say, how is it
that these cases are randomly assigned? But you always seem
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to get them. Do you have the luckiest hand in
the world. Should you start playing the lottery? Should you
go to Vegas because you'd be a billionaire, become a stocktriator.
How is it that you're getting all these randomly assigned things.
As of right now, no one has jurisdiction to demand answers.
A Congress member Jim Jim Jordan or Chip Roy or
somebody can't just write a letter and get that information.
But if there's an impeachment inquiry and there's a committee,
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that committee absolutely has jurisdiction and they can start issuing subpoenas,
and I can tell you that will put the fear
of God into John Roberts and these DC judges. They
will know that they have to respond to these subpoenas
or else the judges can be held in contempt by
Congress and then they can be indicted the way Steve
Bannon was indicted for contempt of Congress.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
So we one hundred percent what we need to do.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
The best thing we can do right now is say, look,
we know, we know Mitch isn't going to convict any
of these judges.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Irrelevant, irrelevant.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
This is about Congress having jurisdiction and oversight and the
power to start issuing subpoenas, to get these judges under
oath and to get this under control.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Who's guns Allo Leira.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Question?
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Apparently nobody knows because there was a guy who writes
for the Atlantic and he's always talking about how great
Ukraine democracy is, and I go, what about gonzal Era,
And then he's sanctimoniously says, well, how do you expect
me to know about everybody? And then he said, I
bet you that people at the Orange County shopping malls
that you go to don't know who he is. Like, yeah, dumb, dumb,
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You're proven my point. You guys had a media blackout
on Gonzala Lira. And I consider Gonzala Lira the litmus
test for whether I consider someone to be a propagandist
or a person who has a good faith debate with
me about.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Ukraine, a good faith disagreement.
Speaker 9 (29:40):
You could say, as you you know you, and I
could just say, hey, what was what was he doing
going to Ukraine making videos calling Zelenski a dictator?
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Right, He's lucky he didn't get beat up.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
But then they kill them. They took him prisoner when
he was trying to leave the country. This is all
on video, and the Zelenski regime and the Ukrainians were
so chotic. Then instead of saying, thank goodness, we got
rid of this wacko, get him out of the country.
What a problem, right, they instead decided to kidnap him,
torture him, and kill him. And then, of course when asked,
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they'll say he had a medical condition. When that he
would say, well, why didn't you get a medical treatment
in the US. So Gonzala Liira is an American who
made YouTube videos that the Zlynsky regime didn't like. He
was held in custody. He tried to leave the country
when he was more or less told to by Ukrainian
law enforcement, who said it would be a good idea
if you kind of just disappeared. He tried to leave,
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He documented it all, and then he died in a hospital,
a victim of torture of the Zelensky regime. The great
Democracy and our great Western ally.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Are good friends. Are good friends. Mike, what's this movie?
Are you allowed to talk about it yet? Or am
I not supposed to ask?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I didn't text you before.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
I'm working on two. Yeah, I'm working on two one
is still under wraps. But the big one we're doing
is about the met of life, and it's called Meaning
one word, and it's about the meaning of life. We
just spent two months in the Amazon looking at what
might have been megalist with Timothy Albarino, tracing the you know,
the origin of humanity. We looked at some people doing ayahuasca,
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talked to ayahuasca. People were going to churches. We're going
to We're talking to people of all different kinds of life.
And trying to make a movie, which is an ambitious project.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Is one way to put it.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Causes me a lot of stress would be another way
to put it, like, oh, I'm going to make a
movie about the meaning of life. What a Doucheeroni, right,
my god, you know what a what a douche? Well,
that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Though, Gosh, I want to go to the Amazon. Mike.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I'll talk to you again soon, brother. I appreciate you,
all right. I bet he slept good last night. I
slept good last night, Remember yesterday, But I told you
I didn't sleep And what did I tell you? I
didn't have any beam. I didn't make that mistake. Last night, went.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Home a little dinner.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Mom came over, hung out, watched a baseball game with
ob mom kids about nine thirty, got myself a little
cup of hot chocolate.
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It's got dream powder in it, chocolate, cinnamon.
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We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
The border is closed, by the grace of God. I
can't even believe I'm saying that the border is actually
closed in the United States of America. How did that happen?
Because it didn't happen in the previous four years.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
How did it happen? How did it happen so fast?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Joining me now senior advisor to US Customs and Border Protection,
also former chief at Border Patrol, Ron Vittello Ron, How
exactly do you go from record border crossings to virtually
nothing in one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
How'd that happen?
Speaker 10 (33:33):
Well, you get a new president who assigns leaders that
know what they're doing, like Christy Nome, and you give
the frontline the tools and the know how, like they
already know how to do this, right, You got to
get out of their way and let them do the job.
And then you add the assets from the inner agency.
And that's every single department in the government, the Treasury Department,
the Justice Department, the Department of Defense, HHS, all of
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them are pointing in the direction to help the frontline
succeed in way that I've never seen in over thirty
plus years, both on the front line in the headquarters
and now as a senior advisor at CBP.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's wonderful to see now.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
There is a lot more to do with.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Regard to criminal cartels, with regard to detention space, with
regard to interior enforcement, but we are well on our
way to making the border a much safer place thereby
protecting the homeland in ways that weren't possible under the
first under the last president.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Ron I understand that there are going to be limits
on what you can tell us, and that's obviously fine.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't want you to step out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
But as far as the cartels go, we were told
that we're going to go after them hard, and I
know they have been. What have we done and what
are we intending to do as far as the limits
on what you can tell us.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
Well, what we've done is taken them off the field
in regard to what areas they control in the southwest border.
The front line of DHS, along with our heroes and
the military partnered with DoD are now in control of
the line. We know what happens when it happens, and
are able to respond. When people still try to invade
the country, they're arrested quickly and with the help of ICE,
(35:10):
with the help of the State Department, with the help
of the military, they're also being removed quickly. And there's
a military to military relationship that has never existed in
my time in government, and so our military is helping
the Mexican military trusted invented units to do things in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Again that I've never seen before.
Speaker 10 (35:30):
Mexico also has ten thousand National Guard troops deployed on
their northern border, our southern border, helping exchange information, mirrored patrols,
and all the things that keep the smugglers from being
in control of that territory and allow the authorities to
control it and regulate it, and so things that were
(35:50):
happening just before January twentieth are not happening on the
southwest border anymore. Again, there's still a lot to do
right These cartails are not going to pull up their
operations and just leave. They're going to continue to exploit
ways that they confine to get into the country and
apply their trade. They're going to look for other avenues
in the United States, and we know some of those tactics.
Tunnels are very popular amongst the high level cartels in Mexico.
(36:14):
They use drones now aircraft. We'll have to watch the
littorals around San Diego, in Brownsville, Texas, the Caribbean, and
our East coast. But all of those things are in
the toolkit now at DHS across the board with their
interagency partners, and it'll just remain to be seeing what
the reaction of the cartel is but again, an unprecedented
(36:36):
cooperation amongst the inner agency in the US and things
that Mexico is doing that they've never done before.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Ron, how reliant are we on the military specifically in
order to get this border secure? And I ask, it's
a completely loaded question, because to be honest, I don't
want them to have to be there. I'm totally okay
with them being there pretending the country. Don't get me wrong,
But the Border Patrol knows how to trol of the border.
I wish we didn't have to supplement it with the military.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
How much are they handling This is.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
A very good question. So there are ten thousand troops
on the border. We're using military flights to help repatriate
people that are in custody at ice and inside a CVP.
But yeah, it's ten thousand. They fortified the border, They've
put up a bunch of sea wire, they're doing patrols,
they're doing intelligence collection, they're monitoring our censors for US.
(37:25):
But you're right, you know, even under you a supportive president,
more needs to be done as relates to the capabilities
given by the Borderatrol maybe left behind by the military,
And so is this a longer term strategy. I agree
with you. We want them focus on threats that only
they can cover. We're grateful for their help now, but
(37:46):
we want this to be able to be sustained in
a way that allows the border patrol in the front
line of DHS to do all of the things and
only call on the military when it's absolutely necessary and
get them focused on peer to peer threats and other
threats that are.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
In the country.
Speaker 10 (38:03):
But we're grateful to have them. But I do think
that sustainability over the long term requires domestic law enforcement
to be primary at the border, as it was most
of the time.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Talk to me about Mexico's southern border, if you will,
because obviously all those caravans, those thousands and thousands of
people had to get through that one before they could
get to our southern border.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
What's the status down there, right? So again, leadership matters here.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
The President has leveraged the thought of tariffs on goods
from Mexico. We are their number one trading partner. They
must do business in the United States for their economy
to succeed and have the working class have jobs. In Mexico,
it's as much smaller border between Guatemala and Mexico easier
to control. When they control their own border, it brings revenue.
(38:55):
Like US, it brings revenue into the treasury. And so
with the threat of terraces, tariffs, their recognition of the
shared responsibility for the flow through Mexico, they're controlling the
border in ways that they have it before. I'm not
aware directly of their deployments on their southern border, but
again it's much more easily controlled there. And when the
(39:16):
policies in the United States do not encourage people to
come in to the United States to cross that border illegally,
everybody sees less activity in the pipeline, the illicit activity,
human trafficking, fetanyl, etc.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Etc.
Speaker 10 (39:30):
All of those things are trending in the right direction,
including what's happening inside of Mexico.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Ron, can you speak at all about what's happening inside
our border.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I know the border is locked down.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
But we have millions some say twenty, who knows what
the number is millions that were brought in just under
Joe Biden, when not even talking about the kids. Three
hundred thousand is a laughably low number. We have a
country full of illegals. Now, how do we get them out.
Where are they?
Speaker 10 (40:00):
So ICE has embarked on the largest interior enforcement operation
for many decades, certainly the most in the last ten
years or so, and so they are targeting people who
are in the country illegally have also committed crimes in
their communities. Those at large arrests are approaching fifty thousand.
(40:20):
Overall removals between ICE and CBP is well over one
hundred thousand. Again, a lot more to do. They need
to scale up those operations. Congress needs to step in
and give them the resources that they need to do
this more often. We also see the interagency cooperating there.
But what they're doing is they're targeting criminals who are
in the United States, including those that live and are
being sanctuaried by cities who flout the rule of law
(40:44):
and immigration authority. But they are conducting those at large
arrests more in the last several months than in the
entirety of the Biden administration. So again, more to do,
but they're focused on the worst of the worst, and
then over time that the aperture will expand to work
on other illegal populations. We're also doing the CBP home
(41:05):
app people who are in the country illegally they wish
to go back without consequence, they can raise their hand
inside the app and ask for assistance on travel documents
or being able to pay for airline tickets. Many people
are electing to self deport just trying to sneak into
Canada or just getting on airplanes and leaving. Thousands of
people have already done that, so there's a full court
(41:25):
press against the Inner Agency.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
The Secretary has also.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
Warned people who are in the country illegal that they
must register with the government. If they don't do that,
they face financial penalties besides the knock on the door
and on the path to removal in deportation, and so
there's a number of ways people can leave if they
want to. And then we will see the Justice Department
pressure more on these sanctuary jurisdictions so that ICE agents
(41:49):
and officers can use local authorities and arrest people in
jails that are also in the country illegally who have
committed crimes. And so all of those things in play
for the popular that exists right now.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
In the US.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Okay Ron final question, Tom Holman was discussing sanctuary cities.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 11 (42:09):
I thought the books that make it a criminal offense
to shield or harbor illegally immigrants like the sanctuary state
city leaders.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Can do it.
Speaker 11 (42:17):
Do you think they should be prosecuted with both said
law and positively book.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Worthing absolutely and hold tight on that one because it's coming.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's coming. I've been clearing asking day one.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
What can be done against these sanctuary cities. I'm well
aware that these sanctuary cities, they study the law, they
try to dance through that minefield so they can protect
illegals without violating the law.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
What can we do well?
Speaker 10 (42:47):
I think the ultimate fix would be Congress coming in
and making it illegal for jurisdictions to harbor people or
to to negate federal law by letting people who are
in custody out without cooperating with ICE. You could legislate
what used to be called the Secure Communities Program, probably
the most effective post nine to eleven program that allowed
(43:07):
local officers to nominate people who were born outside of
the United States directly to ICE. ICE could file a
detainer electronically, and there was there was a pipeline, if
you will, out of the jail, out of the country.
Speaker 8 (43:19):
So you could re establish that through.
Speaker 10 (43:20):
Legislation in the meantime, any but any official or not
that gets in the way of Ice conducting their work
or harbor's illegal aliens in the United States can and
should be prosecuted. They will be prosecuted under the current
efforts underway in the interior. And then the Justice Department
can do things like restrict government grants. Restrict Justice Department
grants to these sanctuaries in order to get them to cooperate.
(43:44):
Ask ask them if they they will cooperate, have these
agreements under two eighty seven G. If they don't do that,
make them in some way through the legal process. Ultimately,
Congress could seal this deal by putting this to bed
with legislation, which obviously would be challenged in the courts,
but that would be the most permanent way to fix it.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Fingers crossed, Ron, thank you for what you do. Please
keep to keep keeping us safe. All Right, we have
a light in the mood. I'm already laughing about it.
Next all right, it's time to lighten the mood. And
(44:27):
I know it's a couple of days old, but I'm sorry,
I cannot stop laughing about that space flight where the
women went up into space and didn't do anything. They
just sat in a capsule, strapped in and went up
into space for eleven minutes and then came back.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Down, which, look, that would be cool.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I'm not even dogging on them for taking the trip, right, Okay,
you took a cool trip up into space. I bet
you got a good picture with your iPhone or whatever.
It's cool, it's cool, but it's pretending like you accomplished something.
That's that's what's so hilarious to me.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It obnoxious.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And now they're getting offended by people who, well, here
was Gail King.
Speaker 12 (45:05):
And I'm so proud of us. I really am proud
of me because I never in a gazillion years thought
I could do this. I don't like that people are
calling it a ride a ride. You know, you never
see a man, a male astronaut who's going up in
space and they said, oh, he took a ride. But
it's not just the young girls.
Speaker 8 (45:22):
We're also encouraging.
Speaker 12 (45:23):
I mean, the boys look at it and see what
women and young girls can do. So, you know, I
know there are cranky Yankees, I know there's some haters,
but I'm not gonna let people steal my joy.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'm so proud of me. I can't believe I didn't.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I'm actually no one says this about the men.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
The men are doing something. The men are at least
having to move this and press a button to do this. Here,
you didn't do anything anyway, I'm sorry. I find it hilarious.
I'll see the ble
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