December 7, 2024 • 43 mins
The most severe punishments should be reserved for people who hold a position of power in the government and abused that power. Julie Kelly joins the show to discuss potential pardons for J6ers and Pam Bondi. Sean Parnell joins Jesse to talk about the military, how bad the rot has gotten, and why the swamp doesn't want to see Hegseth.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
All right, let's talk about reckonings, shall we, because we're
going to go over a lot tonight. COVID military stuff
is going to be a lot of things. But let's
just set this up with why we need one, because
this could be something that is hard for us on
the right. It traditionally has been very, very difficult for
us on the right. The right probably you probably me,
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if I'm being honest. At least in the past, we've
seen ourselves as being kind of the adults.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You have these rabid little democrat commed children. They're always
going crazy and trying to ruin things. Let's okay, let's
get things cleaned up, get the kids calmed down, let's
restore order and get everything calmed down.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But this is the problem.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You see, that mentality doesn't work when you're dealing with
people who don't want peace at all. They have no
desire for peace. That's something you want. You want to
live peacefully with your fellow man. You want things to
calm down, you want the fighting to stop.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You want to.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's not how they look at anything. They want to
fight about everything at all times. Because you are what
here's what you are. You have this magnificent country. You've inherited.
I've inherited.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Our ancestors are our forefathers, gave us this wonderful, free country.
So think of it like a big beautiful stone statue, right,
George Washington is a big beautiful stone statue of George Washington.
You like it, It's beautiful. It's beautiful statue. You want
it to remain. They want to tear it down, and
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they will chip away at it, blow it up if
they can. They are constantly finding ways to attack it.
So that means we have to fight. And when it
comes to things like reckonings, we get uncomfortable because it
almost sounds like vengeance. And then because the right tends
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to be more more Christian based, we think, well, it's
that biblical Vengeance's mind say, if the Lord stop, we're
not talking about revenge, We're not. Well, maybe you are,
but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about
something critical. We're talking about justice. In this country. Justice
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seems to only go one of two directions. Either it
goes to the right. Wait a minute, did I do
that wrong on the screen? Whatever, It either goes to
the right against Republicans, or it goes down against people
who don't have any significant power whatsoever. The real justice
in this country never seems to go left. It never
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seems to go after democrats, and it sure never seems
to go after the powerful ones.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It never seems to go up. It doesn't go.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Left, and it doesn't go up. We have to change
that in this country. To be in power in government,
you should be subjects to the most severe punishments in
this country. The most severe punishments in this country should
actually not be reserved for gang bangers. And it's not
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that I'm a fan of gang bangers or anything like that.
The most severe punishments in this country should be reserved
for people who take power, who hold a position of
power in the government, and then abuse the people with
that position of power. And traditionally, nations in the past
have known that's how it has to be.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It should be the norm.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You realize, it should be the norm that you wake
up in the morning and you pull up your phone
and there's a new Oh wait a minute, there's another
federal employee going to prison. Hey Jesus, hey, this guy
in the IRIS is going to prison. I heard the
FBI agent's going on trial.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Next week. That should be the norm.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Have you ever seen a headline like that. No, And
that's why a reckoning is so important. It is not
about revenge. We have to turn this around. The people
who occupy these positions of power in government, they have
to know, they.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Have to know.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That someone will come for them if they do wrong,
That justice, the legal system will come for them if.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They do wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And right now they think they're untouchable, and to be honest,
to this point, they have been untouchable. You remember Kevin Klinsmith,
FBI lawyer, Kevin Kleinsmith. He lied on a document so
the FBI could continue to spy, to violate the civil
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liberties of an American citizen.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He used his.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Position of power to lie so the secret police, a agency,
could spy on American citizens. Not only did he not
go to prison, he didn't even get disbarred. He's still
practicing law to this day now. Kevin Klinsmith, aside every
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single other FBI agent, I think there's like thirty five
thousand of.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Them, which is really sad.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I should note, every single other person who has that
power in the FBI, has that fancy FBI badge. What
do they think when they look at Kevin Kleinsmith committing
black and white crimes and he gets off with nothing,
what do they think, Well, I'll tell you right now
what they think.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
They think. I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
As long as I'm serving the system properly, I can
take my power and use my power any way I want.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, if you're at the CDC and you lied about COVID, no,
I do not think you should be fired. I think
you should go to prison. If you're in the United
States military and you've used your position in the United
States Military to enrich yourself to turn things into some
calmi disgusting force, I think that you should be court martialed,
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dishonorably discharged. Mark Millie should be recalled in court martialed.
He should, and many others should. Everyone responsible for that
Afghanistan disaster, the international embarrassment, embarrassment if they're still in
court martial THEOM. If they're not, recall them in court
martial THEOM. This may sound like revenge or something. It
may sound mean I don't like this. I need to
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live in peace. No, you don't understand. These people took
power and for four years and it's been longer than
four years, but we'll just use the Biden presidency.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
For four years.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
These people have used their positions of power in the
most evil ways you can possibly use positions of power,
never to serve the country, only to serve themselves, reward themselves,
and punish their political enemies. That's how they've used power,
and the people who did that must be punished. Punishment
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is necessary. Without punishment, you cannot preserve and protect a
free society. And so that's why we talk so much
about reckoning, about making sure the people who did these crimes,
who did these things, to make sure they are being
held to account. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
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but I am right, we'll be back.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, there's a lot going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Obviously we had a great election, but none of that
changes the fact that the biggest thing going on on
the planet is Western governments turning their guns inward against
their own citizens. It is the overarching story of our lives.
It may be for the duration of our lives. That's
what we're up against now. Joining me now is somebody
who has exposed me much of that from within our government.
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Friend of mine, always love having her on Miss Julie Kelly,
go subscribe to her substat called Declassified.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You will learn so much.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Julie, speaking of the government pointing its guns inward, what
are you hearing about potential pardons for these wonderful January
six ers who've been abused by their own government?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So, Jesse, I think you know, there were a lot
of internal and obviously open debate as to what a
pardon would look like. Donald Trump talked about pardons on
the campaign trail. I think his base of supporters is
expecting broad based, if not blanket pardons.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
But I will say, thank you Joe Biden to.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The extent that there's any good news to come out
of his eleven year clemency for his own son, it
is that a blanket pardon for J six defendants, those
who've been convicted and those who are just facing charges
right now, I think makes it very easier, much easier
for the President to do the same for these JA
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six defendants, regardless of the nature of their charges or
the accusations against them.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Julie, just to recap, because it has been a while
since we've talked about this particular issue, what are the
things the United States government did to these people.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well, I mean they've brought bogus charges against now more
than sixteen hundred Americans, including the fifteen twelve C two
obstruction of an official preceding post and run statute that
was reversed by the Supreme Court in June. That means
that this DOJ, Joe Biden's DOJ, and the DCUs attorney
Matthew Grace wrongfully prosecuted more than three hundred Jay six
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ers by falsely using the language the interpretation of this
obstruction statute to turn otherwise peaceful protesters into lifelong felons. Now,
they've also brought other focus charges such as seditious conspiracy.
You saw members of the Proud Boys and the Oathkeepers
base those charges and be convicted by d C jury's
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on a charge Jesse that has historically been reserved for
foreign terror cells. ISIS members Al Qaeda members who were
planning real terror attacks here or against our allies, not
members of the Proud Boys who showed up the Washington Monument.
Some of them didn't even go into the building and
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certainly committed nothing close.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
To an act of terror. So that's another one of
the charges.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
But of course, as we've talked about for years, denying
release of even non violent offenders, hauling them off to
a DC gulag solely restricted to for Trump supporters, asking
for excessive sentences on even low level offenses like parading
in the capital or disorderly conduct. So there's a litany
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of egregious abuses by this DOJ, consented to by every
single federal judge in Washington, DC. This has never happened
in our nation's history, and I think the President has
a golden opportunity to write a tremendous wrong on so
many levels by issuing a blanket part into all of
these j sixers.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Julie jack Smith obviously is dropping the cases. It looks
like Fanny Willis is going to not be able to
prosecute her case.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All that is well.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
And good, but none of that changes the fact these
evil people tried to throw their political opponent in prison.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What can be done? What will be done to them?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Specifically? Yes, I want things legally done to these people.
What can be done well?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I think the special account Jack Smith and his entire
team of prosecutors, both in the Florida case and the
Washington case, both proceedings. As you know I covered in
person those hearings, and I saw in action how Jack
Smith's team also abused the process, misled the court in
the Florida case, Jesse, I think, and that's the classified
a document's indictment that was dismissed by Judge Cannon in
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July after she concluded that Jack Smith had been unconstitutionally
appointed as special counsel. During those proceedings, a lot of
evidence of prosecutorial and investigative misconduct, including tampering with evidence,
possibly destroying evidence, misleading the court and Judge Cannon as
to the condition of evidence that was seized during the
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mar Lago raid, and the raid itself, Jesse, the unnatural
proceedings and deliberations that resulted in the authorization by Marrick Garland.
He said of that nine hour armed raid, there was
a big dispute in the FBI in DJs to whether
the raid was necessary since Donald Trump and his lawyers
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already were cooperating, allowing prosecutors and FBI investigators intomorrow Lago
to look for more documents, the raid was never necessary.
We were misled by the special counsel and the media
about the nature of that raid, saying that they did
contact the Secret Service beforehand. It looks like they did not,
and presenting a very dangerous not just blue on blue
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situation between armed FBI agents and armed Secret Service at
mar A Lago, but certainly the employees and others who
were on the grounds on August eight, twenty twenty two.
So the DOJ could produce these optics of this FBI
raid so to convince the American public that Donald Trump
was harboring national security secrets and endangering our security in
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the process.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
TRULYE let's switch gears here a little bit us potential
potential US Attorney General, Pam Bondi.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Most people are not familiar with her.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I obviously know Pam Bondi, or at least I know
of Pambondi, but I'm not that familiar with her.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We don't have Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, Should I be doing that flips for Pam Bondi?
Should I have cautious, you know, a cautious approach to
this woman? Should I be mortally afraid of what a
loser she is?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Tell me about Pam Bondi.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
So Pambonni, as you know, represented Donald Trump in one
of the impeachment proceedings.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
She has called out the weaponization of the DOJ.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
She has threatened to prosecute the prosecutor, so that's very encouraging.
I spoke with John Laura, who was the President's attorney
in the Washington j sixth case against the President, and
he gave a really glowing endorsement of Pam BONDI knowing
her for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That's on my ex account.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Julianunderscore Kelly too, the full statement that John and Laura
made of his friend and longtime legal colleague Pam Bondy.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
But I also asked John.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Laura, who I respect, why she had not made any
comments about the political persecution of Jay six defendants. Now,
it could just be a matter she was never asked
about it. She was never in a position to really
make public statements, and so that's one area that I
have found a little concerning, and I think others.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But she is very loyal to the president.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The President trusts her legal judgment, as do his team
around him. I think that she will follow through on
his marching orders related to the Department of Justice and FBI,
which is cleaning it up.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We want it dismantled. Of course, you and I do
very encouraged.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Though, by the appointment nomination of Cash Battel as FBI Director,
because I know he will do that. But I have
to believe at this point that Pambinding will follow through
on the President's promises related to holding accountable those who
have destroyed the public's trust in the Department of Justice
in the FBI.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, let's see, I feel better. That's encouraging. That is encouraging.
I'm extremely go ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
That's what younger sisters are for. I'm here to make
you feel better, Jacky, That's what Mom told.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Me to do.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It not right? All right?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So Cash is he going to get through, Julie, because
I agree, I'm thrilled it's going to be Cash. And
we all know what that man's capable of. But the
fact that he's capable of and has a desire to
do things like clean out the rod lead me to
believe I don't like his chances talk me off the ledge.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Right, and I mean I think also we both know Cash.
Cash has had a front row seat since twenty seventeen
when he and Devin Nuna Is uncovered in blue open
vias the Gate Russia Gate, and Cash Battel has seen
the dirty dealings of the SA, FBI and DOJ for
nearly a decade. That's why you see the meltdown by
the never Trumpers and the Democrats and the news media,
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because they know he knows where all the skeletons are hiding.
He knows the dirty rats not just at FBI headquarters
in Washington, but that have infected all fifty six FBI
field offices. And he is so smart. Of course, he's
been a public defender, and he's been a federal prosecutor,
a top investigator for Congress, and of course an aid
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at the Department, top eight at the Department of Defense.
So no one better poised, better informed, and capable.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Of dismantling this scrupt FBI.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And also, I think he, more than anyone, will follow
through on the criminal consequences for those who have brought
these indictments weaponized the DOJ and FBI against not just
Donald Trump, his associates, his family, his businesses, and of
course now more than sixteen hundred January six protesters.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No doubt about it. Julie, my younger sister, Thank you, Ben.
I appreciate we're not even close to being done. Yeah,
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it is.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Generals, generals with stars on their shoulders, who are cowards
who ultimately wouldn't stand up to the ideologies being rammed
down the throats of our leadership. They never stood up
and said nope, Hey, you know, women in combat's not
going to work very well. They're not going to stand
up and say we're not going to do this trans stuff.
But didn't stand up and say, hey, we don't need
your CRT and DEI. It only makes it causes division
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inside our ranks, only creates skepticism and animosity. And no
one ever threw their stars on the table said we're
not doing it. It's how the military allowed itself to
go WHOA, you're right because there were cowards and camouflage
wouldn't make tough calls or retire or call it out
or or resign and say I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, it's really important we get that guy in there
joining me now. My friend Sean Parnell host a battle
ground live combat veteran himself.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Sean, you you.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Got to see it from an officer's window, although you
were one of the good ones actually on the ground
fighting with your men. How bad the rot Actually, God
is bad.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Isn't it.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Yeah, it's real bad. And you know, in fairness, you
know you're right. I mean, officers have and I've experienced
this as well. There are too many leaders in the military,
both at the tactical level all the way up to
the strategic level, from lieutenant all the way up to general.
There are too many officers in the United States military
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who are only concerned with their bow and never their weight.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
In other words, it's.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
The people that are the ladder climbers, who never actually
are boots on the ground front towards enemy, that end
up as sending the ranks into these huge influential positions
that make decisions about all the door kickers and war
fighters below. So it's a huge problem and it's part
of the reason why the Department of Defense and the
Pentagon and every service branch is in the situation that
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they're in right now. And you know, really, Jesse, it's
about leaders who don't have the backbone to stand up
for their troops and ultimately what's right. And that's precisely
why confirming a guy like Pete Heigsath is just so
important because he would be a Secretary of Defense who
actually served front towards enemy in Iraq, and Afghanistan as
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part of these wars, and knows what it's like to
be shot at.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, he does know what it's like to be shot at.
And Sean, can you can you explain why you could?
Because not all these flag officers are lifelong pogues and dorks.
A lot of these guys were in their younger years
were door kickers themselves. But then, is it just the
swamp Shawn? Is it just you get to DC and
you get those birds on there, the couple stars on there,
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and you just forget all about the guys you used
to fight with and fight for.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Well, I have a theory about this.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I think that many people like I don't know about you,
but I went into the military after nine to eleven.
I don't come from a long history of military generals
or noncommissioned officers in my family. My intention was to
join for a career, retire as a lieutenant colonel or
full colonel. Someday I got to combat, and I realized
real quickly that that was probably not going to be
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the case.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Combat sucks pretty badly.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
That my nine lives were up, and so you know,
I was medically retired, So in many ways that decision
was taken from me, but I was getting out either way.
But my point is this, there's something about combat that
kind of makes you, I don't know, it kind of
makes you understand.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Life in a little bit of a deeper way.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
You know, when life and death is on the line
every single day, know how fragile it can be. And
so so many people who've experienced the horrors of war,
Jesse tend to make their way out of the military.
The tragic irony of that is that's the precisely the
type of people that we need in charge. By contrast,
the people who often you know, go to combat, like
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you said, pogues or staff officers. While they're necessary in
many ways to support the door kickers and the warfighters,
it's often those people who don't experience the horrors of
war upfront and up close and personal who end up
staying in and ascending to these positions but have never
actually had a bullet cracked by their head, you know.
So I think, you know, I liken it to you know,
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being an artist or being a painter, but never having
painted a painting. You know, if you if you've never
done that, can you really call yourself a painter. Likewise,
are you You know, you get these generals who are
commanding combat troops who say that they were in combat
because they served in a support area in Bogram, but
have never actually been in the trenches front towards enemy.
I mean, I think it's a huge problem, uh, Jesse.
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And again, you know, you why are we even having
this conversation in the first place. It is because a
guy like Pete Hegseth, who's an actual door kicker, who
is an actual he's an infantry officer, Jesse. He's been
as he's been, He's been in these wars. He's seen
the horrors of war up close and personal. And not
only that, he's seen how terrible it is for people
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who come home. And I think, you know, that's the
reason why people like us support his confirmation. But I
think it's also the reason why there's tremendous resistance inside
the beltwave for a guy like this, because normally those
positions are reserved for the experienced people, those flag officers
that you just talked about. And oh, by the way,
it's those very same flag officers that bumbled us into Iraq,
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Afghanistan and now Ukraine. So believe me, what I tell you,
I'm completely open. Uh and and actually and hopefully Pete
gets confirmed because he's the guy for the job for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
John, I talk a lot about this poisonous little circle,
not just the flag officers, they are an important part
of it, but the politicians in the defense industry. Now,
obviously a nation needs some kind of a defense industry,
but it should not lead the nation, and it most
definitely should not have any say whatsoever and the foreign
policy of a nation. But it's very clear Sean Ours does.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it, especially when
you have generals within the Pentagon, these flag officers who
are in charge of acquisitions that grant these lucrative contracts
to many of these defense contractors like Raytheon and Lockheed
Martin to name a few, these very lucrative Pentagon defense contracts.
And then those very same generals find themselves on the
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board to the tune of five hundred thousand dollars a
year when they get out of the military, raking in
the cash.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That is a that's a very real problem.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
And what you get, Jesse, when that dynamic is in
play is one big corrupt, self licking ice cream cone
where we profit off of war. Well, I mean, and
you're seeing that in Ukraine. I mean, all of these
defense contractors are happy as hell that we're at war
in Ukraine right now, that they can make munitions and
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churn them out and give them to Ukraine and make
more munitions. I mean, their stocks are through the roof. Well,
President Trump comes along and chooses somebody like Pete Hegseth
and says, actually, under my tenure, under my presidency, no
more flag officers can serve on the board of any
of these defense contractors. And Pete hegg Seth, I want
you to actually ensure that the Pentagon passes an audit
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for the first time in seven years. I really want
you to reform the organization. That's precisely why you see
the resistance to a guy like Pete Hegseth. That's precisely
why you see the gross, disgusting character assassination.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Of Pete Hegseeth.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Because reformers Jesse, as you know, are not often appreciated
in their time. And as bureaucracies grow, they get more
and more powerful, they get less transparent, and their first
instinct when a reformer comes along is to protect themselves.
And that's exactly what you're seeing. The Pentagon and all
these defense contractors and all these lobbying.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Firms do against PETE, do against PETE.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Hegsas because for them, the status quo means dollars and cents,
it means a ton of profit. PETE represents a drastic
change to that, and of course they're resistant to it.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Sean, Where's the money go?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
You brought up a great point about seven straight failed audits,
which is absolutely staggering, seven straight failed audits. Sean, the
money didn't disappear into the ether?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Where did it go.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Into the pockets of these defense contractors?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Jesse?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
And I'll tell you where it doesn't go. It sure
as hell doesn't go to making the life of the
warfighter better. Anytime there's anything cut from the Pentagon whatsoever, Jesse,
it's always cut on the It's balanced on the backs
of our nation's warfighters. You know, we're always cut their pay,
we're always cutting their per diem, but while simultaneously putting
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them in more and more dangerous places.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
That needs to stop, right But.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
It is It is the generals, and it is the politicians,
and it is the defense contractors.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
And it is the lobbyist.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Those are the people who are laughing all the way
to the bank. And again, it's these people that are
simultaneously afraid of a Trump presidency and a Pete heg
Seth Secretary of Defense because they know that those two
people represent drastic change to the status quo, and they
don't like that because it affects their bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Seawan, is he going to get through?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I got to tell you, man, he's for me, maybe
the most important one, and that tells me he has
the smallest chance to get through. But I'm a cynic
by nature. Is he getting through?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Listen, Jesse, I've known Pete for a very long time.
You know, I worked with Pete at Concerned Veterans for
America before he was Pete Hegseth on Fox News. Yes,
I'm calling it right here. I think he's going to
get through. That does not mean that the personal attacks
are going to relent. In fact, I think you're going
to see a slow, drip, drip drip against Pete Hegseth
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from now until his confirmation hearing. That's why it's critically
important for veterans, for war fighters, for conservatives, for Republican
senators to understand the moment that we're in to understand
exactly why this man is being attacked. And by the way,
these attacks, this type of character assassination. Pete's a big boy,
he can handle himself, but it affects his family.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It sures how affects his children.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
That's why we have to rally around him to make
sure that he doesn't have to go through this alone.
The attacks on him. I can tell you I know
this man. I've known him for a long time. They
are completely bogus, like there's no truth to him. They
are confabricated out of whole cloth. And so Republican senators,
I mean, you know the motivation behind this Jesse. They're
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going after this man's character and the hope that a
couple of Republican senators might not vote for him and
then tank is as Republicans, for the love of God,
we cannot allow that to happen. I mean, how many
freaking Biden nominations got tanked during the Biden presidency. Those
people did far more damage to this country than any
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Trump nomination will ever do in three and a half
short ears. So there's not a single damn Republican out
there that should be voting against Pete Hegseth or anybody else.
We should not play the political the rules. We should
not play the game according to the rules that the
Democrats set. Republicans need to saddle up and vote for
Pete Hegseth because this guy is the answer to a
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lot of the Pentagon's problems.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
John, you are the man. Thank you, my brother.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Not just the military that needs a reckoning. Some evil
things were done to this country during COVID. Let's talk
to doctor Michael Schwartz about that.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Next.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
The thing that went right was the investment over decades
in the basic and clinical biomedical research that allowed us
to make a vaccine in unprecedented time of less than
a year that turned out to be safe and highly effective.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They are safe and so effective.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
We know that vaccines are safe and effective.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
That data is so compelling that these vaccines are safe
and effective.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Our data
from the CDCs today suggests that vaccinated people do not
carry the virus, don't get sick. So it's really quite
safe for you, the vaccinated person. It's not safe for
the unvaccinated person, especially if that person is taking off
their mask. If you are unvaccinated, we would recommend not traveling.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Remember all those lies I have not forgotten. I've not forgiven,
mainly because nobody has asked for my forgiveness. Joining me now,
Doctor Michael Schwartz, author of the book Vaccine Fiction, which
I would highly recommend you go pick up. Doctor, What
were the biggest lies that we were told about the vaccine?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Please take your time. You may need an hour.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
We would need a few hours, Jesse.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
I got to tell you we were the first company
to do a COVID test in the state of New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I had nineteen thousand patients.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
We did forty four thousand of them on multiple states,
and you know, we saw the data wasn't matching what
these folks were saying right from the start, talk about lies.
I wanted to jump through my TV every time somebody
gave a press conference and talked about this because the
data never matched what they were saying. Well, we were
seeing on the ground right from how testing works, you know,
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going through the numbers about the mortality rates. We predicted
the mortality rate of COVID was going to be point
zero one percent. In April of twenty twenty, So we
could go down the list. Now you know, we're into
the back scenes. The government data is out there, but
nobody wants to talk about it. And Harvard agrees with
me that only about one percent of what's out there
actually makes it into the database. So when you look
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at the numbers and you see forty thousand people at
least dead of the shots, multiply that by one hundred
and you get the real number. The amount of myocard
diti is perrotcard ditis anaphylaxis, and when you see it
according to the different shots. I get tired of these
people in the government talking about vaccines because they're misleading
to people right off the bat. First of all, these
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mRNA shots should never have been called vaccines. When you
say that to somebody who's seventy eighty ninety years old,
they think inoculation, They think lifetime immunity, polio lifetime be
ten years. They don't think what it really does. One
hundred and twenty eight antibody response like a flu shot.
I mean that's just inappropriate right off the bat. So
we could go down the list, Jesse, But I mean
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the list is so long it would take days.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Doctor, I need you to.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Let's focus on that last part really quickly, because there
are a lot of people like me who don't have
the intelligence to understand specifically what you just said. Why
is the COVID vaccine not considered a vaccine? What is
all this antibody stuff I slept through chemistry?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Explain?
Speaker 10 (33:14):
Well, Look, I mean you've got different types of vaccines
or what you call shots here. You've got live attenuated
that's what we use in polio, You've got viral vector.
These are older technologies. When you look at the mRNA technology,
this was never rolled out. This was a mass experiment
on the whole of the world back in twenty twenty one.
So when they use the words vaccines or and you know,
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I don't like to call them that just because it's
misleading to older people what they're used to back in
the day, those polio shots.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
I can't stand.
Speaker 10 (33:41):
When someone comes out and talks about RFK and people
like that and say, oh, they're going to bring polio back.
It's completely different technology. You're comparing apples to oranges. So
when you're telling when you're using the word vaccine, most
people think of long term immunity that live attenuated technology
that we've been using for years in the polio shots,
for instance, works very well and it's pretty safe.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
If you look at what Novavacs just came out with.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
Novavacs came out with a COVID shot and it virtually
has no issues. But it's live attenuated technology. The mRNA
technology is completely new. It's something we've never used until covid.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Okay, doctor.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
One thing that I will never forget in my life
is the ridiculous concept of social distancing. And I don't
even understand any of this virus stuff, but I know
when I'm standing on footprints in the grocery store six
feet behind the person in front of me, and I'm
paying and he's got this little plastic thing, I know
a scam and an idiocy when I see it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Can you talk about all that?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Sure, I'd love to you. I mean, you know, it's
one of the I wrote a book before vaccine. Fiction
is called Fauci's Fiction, not about Fauci, but it tells
you all the data that we saw in the beginning,
and that it goes over that the social distancing talks
about particle size. Look, the size of COVID is point
one micron Okay, it's about the same size of influenza A.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
The mass that we we're wearing.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Second dumbest thing I've ever seen in my lifetime. If
you are in an enclosed environment, you are just as
susceptible of getting flu A. You're as susceptible of getting
any viral, a pathogen like RSV, and then there's bacterial pathogens.
We don't wear surgical masks for viruses, just something we
don't do. So when I was in the grocery store
and I saw those ridiculous you know, I still have
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him in my grocery store now with those plastic things
where I can't I got to hand the guy the
money through the slot.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
It's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Just give me, you know, an hour on TV in
April of twenty twenty when this thing came out, and
we would have explained all this to the public. That's
why I think the media is culpable here. The government's culpable.
They've just done things that are anti science. I quote somebody,
doctor Lydia Baruba in my book from MIT, just the
breathing alone in a room with high speed cameras you
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saw the spread of particles was twenty seven point two feet,
not six feet. We're just making up numbers at this point,
which now the government admitted. But my point about you know,
Fauci's fiction and vaccine fiction was we were telling people
this way. I mean so early on April May June
of twenty twenty. We could have prevented all these businesses
from shutting down, suicide rates from going up, kids from
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being out of school. There's so much that we could
have stopped. And yeah, you're right, Jesse when you say
scam to purport that, to run with these narratives for
as long as we did and then control an election
with mail in Ballance, Yeah, it's preposterous.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
What the world did?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Okay, doctor, could you maybe help me understand why the
lies were so pervasive, because that's one thing that still
hits me so hard. I guess I was just naive.
But doctors. I realized doctors are not saints as soon
as you get that PhD. But doctors in general I
had always looked at as people who may get.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Things wrong, but care about your health.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
But the medical industry lies were so widespread, from the
most prestigious organizations it honestly, it soured me on the
entire medical profession.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's how that's why I still stand today, and I don't
blame you.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
I had a conversation with a medical student early during this,
when the vaccines first came out, and I said, this
is what we're seeing in the office. You know, we
don't use the word breakthrough cases because everybody's catching this.
You can get it, you can give it, whether you've
been shot up or not. It doesn't matter what the
government saying is false. And he stopped me and he
said you got to stop talking like that, and you
need to go along with this. And I said why,
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And he said, we're going to lose credibility if we
don't all get together and get behind this. And I said,
that's the wrong way to do medicine. Look, we never
required a mask in our offices. Ever the government wants
to come after me, go ahead, but it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
It's anti science. It's something we don't do.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Look, I never not recommended a shot because we thought
there'd be issues from it. So if you go put
yourself in my shoes, we never recommended a shot for
two reasons.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
One is they don't work.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
You get one hundred and twenty day antibody response from it,
which we can get into, and two is you didn't
need it. We didn't lose one patient in the entire time.
We treat it for a year leading up to the
shots when they came out. So if you were one
of my patients said do I need this shot, the
answer was a laughable no.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
You don't need it.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
It doesn't work and you don't need it. So those
are the only basic reasons why you don't. Why would
I give you something experimental for something that doesn't work,
in something you don't need. Now we're starting to see
the issues from this experimental technology. Now we're starting to
realize that it causes an inflammatory reaction in your body
and speeds things up. It's the twenty year old kid
who would have a joint issue at forty, but now
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it's coming out early. It's the seventy year old. It's
the forty year old man who would have a hard
issue at seventy, but it's coming out early because it
exacerbates areas of weakness in your body for something, again
that you don't need, and for something that doesn't work, for.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
A freaking virus. At the point zero one mortality rate,
that is all right. Doctor, What do you think about
this medical cabinet? If you will, Donald Trump was putting
up We have guys like doctor j Batachari RFK juniors
getting put into ahhs.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
What do you think so far? Are you happy? Are
you thrilled? Are you angry?
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I was happy when I saw RFK.
Speaker 10 (38:55):
I'm not a fan of his politics, but as far
as when it comes to medicine, I think he's got
his finger on the Policy's done a lot of great
work in his life, the ones that get me upset,
or doctor Oz. Look the guy I just played a
video recently. He was forcing he was taken a vaccine
on air shot. Let's call it a shot, you know,
to show everybody, oh, these are safe and effective.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
What does that really do? Man Matte, I mean.
Speaker 10 (39:16):
And doctor Jeanette Nashauat, I mean, she she was. I
am there are no words. I am not happy about
her appointment.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
She was.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
She was behind Fauci, she was behind the shot, she
was behind the masking. The media was always about twelve
to eighteen months behind us and what we were telling
our patients, and that was very frustrating for people like
us who were trying to get the word out. What
were being ignored systematically, whether it was the bands on
you know, books from Amazon, from the director from the
White House, or for was because just MSNBC and CNN
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with those death counts were making people think that this
thing was so bad that people looked at us like
we had four heads.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
You know.
Speaker 10 (39:56):
We'd come out every day with a different grouping of patients.
Sometimes we'd see two hundred people in a day between
our different offices or the places that we were going
to and doing on site work. And look, we were
calling patients every night, recording symptomology. I have something called
CT value if you're testing a patient appropriately and using
a respiratory pathogen. There's thirty one things on a respiratory pathogen.
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And what we found, Jesse, was that the sickest of
the sick always had a co infection. Most people weren't
testing for co infections. We did this because and that's
why we were the first in the country to do this,
because we had used respiratory pathogens for years. We would
train other doctors in how to use this, but most
doctors don't want to pick them up. Number one, they
take a couple extra minutes for the doctor there's no
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reimbursement for the doctor, so nobody wants to test appropriately.
So when you go to the doctor now or an
urgent care and you're not feeling well and they test
you for rapid covid, rapid flu, rapid strap, what are
they guessing at the other twenty eight things. The sickest
of the sick always had a co infection. So we
have CT value, which is viral load. We have co infection,
we have home morbidity, and we have antibody data on
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all these patients.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Most people do not have that.
Speaker 10 (41:05):
On top of that, we called every single patient every
single night when they had a positive result to record symptomology.
Janette Nashawatt did not do that. Doctor Oz did not
do that. They didn't realize. I don't think out the
time that COVID wasn't as bad as it was, and
they wouldn't have been rushing out these people and especially
children to get shots. You know, they kept saying that
the folks who were older, who were more susceptible, needed
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these things. They're the less people I would ever give
a shot too. I've I've had more family members dying
the last year. Some great friends of mine who were
all vaccinated, and they weren't feeling quite the same ever
since they got the abundance of the shots they got,
and a lot of times in the autopsy reports you
see things that are very indicative of what we see
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normally with these shots. Abundance of cancer, rare cancer, onset
of cancer, rare cancers. You see inflammation in different parts
of the body, and a lot of these are caused
by these mRNA shots.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Doctor, thank you so much. That was awesome. Appreciate you
very much. Made me angry all over again. Don't worry.
We're not done though. We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Not revenge, I know that's the little headline we have
on there. But not revenge, reckoning justice. We must restore
this country to being one where the people in power
are also held to account under the law, and the
exact same way you are. If you cheat on your taxes,
you will be held to account. They will find you,
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they will probably throw you in prison. Well that's fine,
you're a citizen. You need to follow the law. But
the people who make the laws, the people who enforce
the laws, the various bureaucratic agencies in this country, they
should be more accountable than you.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Are.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
The federal government should have a lot of people in
federal prison who were federal employees. That's how you restore
a justice in a country. There should be an entire
prison system designated for federal employees who lie, cheat, and steel,
and commit criminal acts with their job. That's what we need,
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and hopefully one day that's what we'll get.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
We'll do it again.
All right, let's talk about reckonings, shall we, because we're
going to go over a lot tonight. COVID military stuff
is going to be a lot of things. But let's
just set this up with why we need one, because
this could be something that is hard for us on
the right. It traditionally has been very, very difficult for
us on the right. The right probably you probably me,
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if I'm being honest. At least in the past, we've
seen ourselves as being kind of the adults.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You have these rabid little democrat commed children. They're always
going crazy and trying to ruin things. Let's okay, let's
get things cleaned up, get the kids calmed down, let's
restore order and get everything calmed down.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But this is the problem.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You see, that mentality doesn't work when you're dealing with
people who don't want peace at all. They have no
desire for peace. That's something you want. You want to
live peacefully with your fellow man. You want things to
calm down, you want the fighting to stop.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You want to.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's not how they look at anything. They want to
fight about everything at all times. Because you are what
here's what you are. You have this magnificent country. You've inherited.
I've inherited.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Our ancestors are our forefathers, gave us this wonderful, free country.
So think of it like a big beautiful stone statue, right,
George Washington is a big beautiful stone statue of George Washington.
You like it, It's beautiful. It's beautiful statue. You want
it to remain. They want to tear it down, and
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they will chip away at it, blow it up if
they can. They are constantly finding ways to attack it.
So that means we have to fight. And when it
comes to things like reckonings, we get uncomfortable because it
almost sounds like vengeance. And then because the right tends
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to be more more Christian based, we think, well, it's
that biblical Vengeance's mind say, if the Lord stop, we're
not talking about revenge, We're not. Well, maybe you are,
but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about
something critical. We're talking about justice. In this country. Justice
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seems to only go one of two directions. Either it
goes to the right. Wait a minute, did I do
that wrong on the screen? Whatever, It either goes to
the right against Republicans, or it goes down against people
who don't have any significant power whatsoever. The real justice
in this country never seems to go left. It never
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seems to go after democrats, and it sure never seems
to go after the powerful ones.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It never seems to go up. It doesn't go.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Left, and it doesn't go up. We have to change
that in this country. To be in power in government,
you should be subjects to the most severe punishments in
this country. The most severe punishments in this country should
actually not be reserved for gang bangers. And it's not
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that I'm a fan of gang bangers or anything like that.
The most severe punishments in this country should be reserved
for people who take power, who hold a position of
power in the government, and then abuse the people with
that position of power. And traditionally, nations in the past
have known that's how it has to be.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It should be the norm.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You realize, it should be the norm that you wake
up in the morning and you pull up your phone
and there's a new Oh wait a minute, there's another
federal employee going to prison. Hey Jesus, hey, this guy
in the IRIS is going to prison. I heard the
FBI agent's going on trial.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Next week. That should be the norm.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Have you ever seen a headline like that. No, And
that's why a reckoning is so important. It is not
about revenge. We have to turn this around. The people
who occupy these positions of power in government, they have
to know, they.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Have to know.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That someone will come for them if they do wrong,
That justice, the legal system will come for them if.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They do wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And right now they think they're untouchable, and to be honest,
to this point, they have been untouchable. You remember Kevin Klinsmith,
FBI lawyer, Kevin Kleinsmith. He lied on a document so
the FBI could continue to spy, to violate the civil
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liberties of an American citizen.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He used his.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Position of power to lie so the secret police, a agency,
could spy on American citizens. Not only did he not
go to prison, he didn't even get disbarred. He's still
practicing law to this day now. Kevin Klinsmith, aside every
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single other FBI agent, I think there's like thirty five
thousand of.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Them, which is really sad.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I should note, every single other person who has that
power in the FBI, has that fancy FBI badge. What
do they think when they look at Kevin Kleinsmith committing
black and white crimes and he gets off with nothing,
what do they think, Well, I'll tell you right now
what they think.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
They think. I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
As long as I'm serving the system properly, I can
take my power and use my power any way I want.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, if you're at the CDC and you lied about COVID, no,
I do not think you should be fired. I think
you should go to prison. If you're in the United
States military and you've used your position in the United
States Military to enrich yourself to turn things into some
calmi disgusting force, I think that you should be court martialed,
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dishonorably discharged. Mark Millie should be recalled in court martialed.
He should, and many others should. Everyone responsible for that
Afghanistan disaster, the international embarrassment, embarrassment if they're still in
court martial THEOM. If they're not, recall them in court
martial THEOM. This may sound like revenge or something. It
may sound mean I don't like this. I need to
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live in peace. No, you don't understand. These people took
power and for four years and it's been longer than
four years, but we'll just use the Biden presidency.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
For four years.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
These people have used their positions of power in the
most evil ways you can possibly use positions of power,
never to serve the country, only to serve themselves, reward themselves,
and punish their political enemies. That's how they've used power,
and the people who did that must be punished. Punishment
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is necessary. Without punishment, you cannot preserve and protect a
free society. And so that's why we talk so much
about reckoning, about making sure the people who did these crimes,
who did these things, to make sure they are being
held to account. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
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but I am right, we'll be back.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, there's a lot going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Obviously we had a great election, but none of that
changes the fact that the biggest thing going on on
the planet is Western governments turning their guns inward against
their own citizens. It is the overarching story of our lives.
It may be for the duration of our lives. That's
what we're up against now. Joining me now is somebody
who has exposed me much of that from within our government.
(08:16):
Friend of mine, always love having her on Miss Julie Kelly,
go subscribe to her substat called Declassified.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You will learn so much.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Julie, speaking of the government pointing its guns inward, what
are you hearing about potential pardons for these wonderful January
six ers who've been abused by their own government?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So, Jesse, I think you know, there were a lot
of internal and obviously open debate as to what a
pardon would look like. Donald Trump talked about pardons on
the campaign trail. I think his base of supporters is
expecting broad based, if not blanket pardons.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
But I will say, thank you Joe Biden to.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The extent that there's any good news to come out
of his eleven year clemency for his own son, it
is that a blanket pardon for J six defendants, those
who've been convicted and those who are just facing charges
right now, I think makes it very easier, much easier
for the President to do the same for these JA
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six defendants, regardless of the nature of their charges or
the accusations against them.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Julie, just to recap, because it has been a while
since we've talked about this particular issue, what are the
things the United States government did to these people.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well, I mean they've brought bogus charges against now more
than sixteen hundred Americans, including the fifteen twelve C two
obstruction of an official preceding post and run statute that
was reversed by the Supreme Court in June. That means
that this DOJ, Joe Biden's DOJ, and the DCUs attorney
Matthew Grace wrongfully prosecuted more than three hundred Jay six
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ers by falsely using the language the interpretation of this
obstruction statute to turn otherwise peaceful protesters into lifelong felons. Now,
they've also brought other focus charges such as seditious conspiracy.
You saw members of the Proud Boys and the Oathkeepers
base those charges and be convicted by d C jury's
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on a charge Jesse that has historically been reserved for
foreign terror cells. ISIS members Al Qaeda members who were
planning real terror attacks here or against our allies, not
members of the Proud Boys who showed up the Washington Monument.
Some of them didn't even go into the building and
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certainly committed nothing close.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
To an act of terror. So that's another one of
the charges.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
But of course, as we've talked about for years, denying
release of even non violent offenders, hauling them off to
a DC gulag solely restricted to for Trump supporters, asking
for excessive sentences on even low level offenses like parading
in the capital or disorderly conduct. So there's a litany
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of egregious abuses by this DOJ, consented to by every
single federal judge in Washington, DC. This has never happened
in our nation's history, and I think the President has
a golden opportunity to write a tremendous wrong on so
many levels by issuing a blanket part into all of
these j sixers.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Julie jack Smith obviously is dropping the cases. It looks
like Fanny Willis is going to not be able to
prosecute her case.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All that is well.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
And good, but none of that changes the fact these
evil people tried to throw their political opponent in prison.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What can be done? What will be done to them?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Specifically? Yes, I want things legally done to these people.
What can be done well?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I think the special account Jack Smith and his entire
team of prosecutors, both in the Florida case and the
Washington case, both proceedings. As you know I covered in
person those hearings, and I saw in action how Jack
Smith's team also abused the process, misled the court in
the Florida case, Jesse, I think, and that's the classified
a document's indictment that was dismissed by Judge Cannon in
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July after she concluded that Jack Smith had been unconstitutionally
appointed as special counsel. During those proceedings, a lot of
evidence of prosecutorial and investigative misconduct, including tampering with evidence,
possibly destroying evidence, misleading the court and Judge Cannon as
to the condition of evidence that was seized during the
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mar Lago raid, and the raid itself, Jesse, the unnatural
proceedings and deliberations that resulted in the authorization by Marrick Garland.
He said of that nine hour armed raid, there was
a big dispute in the FBI in DJs to whether
the raid was necessary since Donald Trump and his lawyers
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already were cooperating, allowing prosecutors and FBI investigators intomorrow Lago
to look for more documents, the raid was never necessary.
We were misled by the special counsel and the media
about the nature of that raid, saying that they did
contact the Secret Service beforehand. It looks like they did not,
and presenting a very dangerous not just blue on blue
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situation between armed FBI agents and armed Secret Service at
mar A Lago, but certainly the employees and others who
were on the grounds on August eight, twenty twenty two.
So the DOJ could produce these optics of this FBI
raid so to convince the American public that Donald Trump
was harboring national security secrets and endangering our security in
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the process.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
TRULYE let's switch gears here a little bit us potential
potential US Attorney General, Pam Bondi.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Most people are not familiar with her.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I obviously know Pam Bondi, or at least I know
of Pambondi, but I'm not that familiar with her.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We don't have Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, Should I be doing that flips for Pam Bondi?
Should I have cautious, you know, a cautious approach to
this woman? Should I be mortally afraid of what a
loser she is?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Tell me about Pam Bondi.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
So Pambonni, as you know, represented Donald Trump in one
of the impeachment proceedings.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
She has called out the weaponization of the DOJ.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
She has threatened to prosecute the prosecutor, so that's very encouraging.
I spoke with John Laura, who was the President's attorney
in the Washington j sixth case against the President, and
he gave a really glowing endorsement of Pam BONDI knowing
her for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That's on my ex account.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Julianunderscore Kelly too, the full statement that John and Laura
made of his friend and longtime legal colleague Pam Bondy.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
But I also asked John.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Laura, who I respect, why she had not made any
comments about the political persecution of Jay six defendants. Now,
it could just be a matter she was never asked
about it. She was never in a position to really
make public statements, and so that's one area that I
have found a little concerning, and I think others.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But she is very loyal to the president.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The President trusts her legal judgment, as do his team
around him. I think that she will follow through on
his marching orders related to the Department of Justice and FBI,
which is cleaning it up.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We want it dismantled. Of course, you and I do
very encouraged.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Though, by the appointment nomination of Cash Battel as FBI Director,
because I know he will do that. But I have
to believe at this point that Pambinding will follow through
on the President's promises related to holding accountable those who
have destroyed the public's trust in the Department of Justice
in the FBI.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, let's see, I feel better. That's encouraging. That is encouraging.
I'm extremely go ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
That's what younger sisters are for. I'm here to make
you feel better, Jacky, That's what Mom told.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Me to do.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It not right? All right?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So Cash is he going to get through, Julie, because
I agree, I'm thrilled it's going to be Cash. And
we all know what that man's capable of. But the
fact that he's capable of and has a desire to
do things like clean out the rod lead me to
believe I don't like his chances talk me off the ledge.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Right, and I mean I think also we both know Cash.
Cash has had a front row seat since twenty seventeen
when he and Devin Nuna Is uncovered in blue open
vias the Gate Russia Gate, and Cash Battel has seen
the dirty dealings of the SA, FBI and DOJ for
nearly a decade. That's why you see the meltdown by
the never Trumpers and the Democrats and the news media,
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because they know he knows where all the skeletons are hiding.
He knows the dirty rats not just at FBI headquarters
in Washington, but that have infected all fifty six FBI
field offices. And he is so smart. Of course, he's
been a public defender, and he's been a federal prosecutor,
a top investigator for Congress, and of course an aid
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at the Department, top eight at the Department of Defense.
So no one better poised, better informed, and capable.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Of dismantling this scrupt FBI.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And also, I think he, more than anyone, will follow
through on the criminal consequences for those who have brought
these indictments weaponized the DOJ and FBI against not just
Donald Trump, his associates, his family, his businesses, and of
course now more than sixteen hundred January six protesters.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No doubt about it. Julie, my younger sister, Thank you, Ben.
I appreciate we're not even close to being done. Yeah,
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it is.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Generals, generals with stars on their shoulders, who are cowards
who ultimately wouldn't stand up to the ideologies being rammed
down the throats of our leadership. They never stood up
and said nope, Hey, you know, women in combat's not
going to work very well. They're not going to stand
up and say we're not going to do this trans stuff.
But didn't stand up and say, hey, we don't need
your CRT and DEI. It only makes it causes division
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inside our ranks, only creates skepticism and animosity. And no
one ever threw their stars on the table said we're
not doing it. It's how the military allowed itself to
go WHOA, you're right because there were cowards and camouflage
wouldn't make tough calls or retire or call it out
or or resign and say I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, it's really important we get that guy in there
joining me now. My friend Sean Parnell host a battle
ground live combat veteran himself.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Sean, you you.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Got to see it from an officer's window, although you
were one of the good ones actually on the ground
fighting with your men. How bad the rot Actually, God
is bad.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Isn't it.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Yeah, it's real bad. And you know, in fairness, you
know you're right. I mean, officers have and I've experienced
this as well. There are too many leaders in the military,
both at the tactical level all the way up to
the strategic level, from lieutenant all the way up to general.
There are too many officers in the United States military
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who are only concerned with their bow and never their weight.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
In other words, it's.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
The people that are the ladder climbers, who never actually
are boots on the ground front towards enemy, that end
up as sending the ranks into these huge influential positions
that make decisions about all the door kickers and war
fighters below. So it's a huge problem and it's part
of the reason why the Department of Defense and the
Pentagon and every service branch is in the situation that
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they're in right now. And you know, really, Jesse, it's
about leaders who don't have the backbone to stand up
for their troops and ultimately what's right. And that's precisely
why confirming a guy like Pete Heigsath is just so
important because he would be a Secretary of Defense who
actually served front towards enemy in Iraq, and Afghanistan as
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part of these wars, and knows what it's like to
be shot at.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, he does know what it's like to be shot at.
And Sean, can you can you explain why you could?
Because not all these flag officers are lifelong pogues and dorks.
A lot of these guys were in their younger years
were door kickers themselves. But then, is it just the
swamp Shawn? Is it just you get to DC and
you get those birds on there, the couple stars on there,
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and you just forget all about the guys you used
to fight with and fight for.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Well, I have a theory about this.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I think that many people like I don't know about you,
but I went into the military after nine to eleven.
I don't come from a long history of military generals
or noncommissioned officers in my family. My intention was to
join for a career, retire as a lieutenant colonel or
full colonel. Someday I got to combat, and I realized
real quickly that that was probably not going to be
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the case.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Combat sucks pretty badly.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
That my nine lives were up, and so you know,
I was medically retired, So in many ways that decision
was taken from me, but I was getting out either way.
But my point is this, there's something about combat that
kind of makes you, I don't know, it kind of
makes you understand.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Life in a little bit of a deeper way.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
You know, when life and death is on the line
every single day, know how fragile it can be. And
so so many people who've experienced the horrors of war,
Jesse tend to make their way out of the military.
The tragic irony of that is that's the precisely the
type of people that we need in charge. By contrast,
the people who often you know, go to combat, like
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you said, pogues or staff officers. While they're necessary in
many ways to support the door kickers and the warfighters,
it's often those people who don't experience the horrors of
war upfront and up close and personal who end up
staying in and ascending to these positions but have never
actually had a bullet cracked by their head, you know.
So I think, you know, I liken it to you know,
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being an artist or being a painter, but never having
painted a painting. You know, if you if you've never
done that, can you really call yourself a painter. Likewise,
are you You know, you get these generals who are
commanding combat troops who say that they were in combat
because they served in a support area in Bogram, but
have never actually been in the trenches front towards enemy.
I mean, I think it's a huge problem, uh, Jesse.
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And again, you know, you why are we even having
this conversation in the first place. It is because a
guy like Pete Hegseth, who's an actual door kicker, who
is an actual he's an infantry officer, Jesse. He's been
as he's been, He's been in these wars. He's seen
the horrors of war up close and personal. And not
only that, he's seen how terrible it is for people
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who come home. And I think, you know, that's the
reason why people like us support his confirmation. But I
think it's also the reason why there's tremendous resistance inside
the beltwave for a guy like this, because normally those
positions are reserved for the experienced people, those flag officers
that you just talked about. And oh, by the way,
it's those very same flag officers that bumbled us into Iraq,
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Afghanistan and now Ukraine. So believe me, what I tell you,
I'm completely open. Uh and and actually and hopefully Pete
gets confirmed because he's the guy for the job for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
John, I talk a lot about this poisonous little circle,
not just the flag officers, they are an important part
of it, but the politicians in the defense industry. Now,
obviously a nation needs some kind of a defense industry,
but it should not lead the nation, and it most
definitely should not have any say whatsoever and the foreign
policy of a nation. But it's very clear Sean Ours does.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it, especially when
you have generals within the Pentagon, these flag officers who
are in charge of acquisitions that grant these lucrative contracts
to many of these defense contractors like Raytheon and Lockheed
Martin to name a few, these very lucrative Pentagon defense contracts.
And then those very same generals find themselves on the
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board to the tune of five hundred thousand dollars a
year when they get out of the military, raking in
the cash.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That is a that's a very real problem.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
And what you get, Jesse, when that dynamic is in
play is one big corrupt, self licking ice cream cone
where we profit off of war. Well, I mean, and
you're seeing that in Ukraine. I mean, all of these
defense contractors are happy as hell that we're at war
in Ukraine right now, that they can make munitions and
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churn them out and give them to Ukraine and make
more munitions. I mean, their stocks are through the roof. Well,
President Trump comes along and chooses somebody like Pete Hegseth
and says, actually, under my tenure, under my presidency, no
more flag officers can serve on the board of any
of these defense contractors. And Pete hegg Seth, I want
you to actually ensure that the Pentagon passes an audit
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for the first time in seven years. I really want
you to reform the organization. That's precisely why you see
the resistance to a guy like Pete Hegseth. That's precisely
why you see the gross, disgusting character assassination.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Of Pete Hegseeth.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Because reformers Jesse, as you know, are not often appreciated
in their time. And as bureaucracies grow, they get more
and more powerful, they get less transparent, and their first
instinct when a reformer comes along is to protect themselves.
And that's exactly what you're seeing. The Pentagon and all
these defense contractors and all these lobbying.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Firms do against PETE, do against PETE.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Hegsas because for them, the status quo means dollars and cents,
it means a ton of profit. PETE represents a drastic
change to that, and of course they're resistant to it.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Sean, Where's the money go?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
You brought up a great point about seven straight failed audits,
which is absolutely staggering, seven straight failed audits. Sean, the
money didn't disappear into the ether?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Where did it go.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Into the pockets of these defense contractors?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Jesse?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
And I'll tell you where it doesn't go. It sure
as hell doesn't go to making the life of the
warfighter better. Anytime there's anything cut from the Pentagon whatsoever, Jesse,
it's always cut on the It's balanced on the backs
of our nation's warfighters. You know, we're always cut their pay,
we're always cutting their per diem, but while simultaneously putting
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them in more and more dangerous places.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
That needs to stop, right But.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
It is It is the generals, and it is the politicians,
and it is the defense contractors.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
And it is the lobbyist.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Those are the people who are laughing all the way
to the bank. And again, it's these people that are
simultaneously afraid of a Trump presidency and a Pete heg
Seth Secretary of Defense because they know that those two
people represent drastic change to the status quo, and they
don't like that because it affects their bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Seawan, is he going to get through?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I got to tell you, man, he's for me, maybe
the most important one, and that tells me he has
the smallest chance to get through. But I'm a cynic
by nature. Is he getting through?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Listen, Jesse, I've known Pete for a very long time.
You know, I worked with Pete at Concerned Veterans for
America before he was Pete Hegseth on Fox News. Yes,
I'm calling it right here. I think he's going to
get through. That does not mean that the personal attacks
are going to relent. In fact, I think you're going
to see a slow, drip, drip drip against Pete Hegseth
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from now until his confirmation hearing. That's why it's critically
important for veterans, for war fighters, for conservatives, for Republican
senators to understand the moment that we're in to understand
exactly why this man is being attacked. And by the way,
these attacks, this type of character assassination. Pete's a big boy,
he can handle himself, but it affects his family.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It sures how affects his children.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
That's why we have to rally around him to make
sure that he doesn't have to go through this alone.
The attacks on him. I can tell you I know
this man. I've known him for a long time. They
are completely bogus, like there's no truth to him. They
are confabricated out of whole cloth. And so Republican senators,
I mean, you know the motivation behind this Jesse. They're
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going after this man's character and the hope that a
couple of Republican senators might not vote for him and
then tank is as Republicans, for the love of God,
we cannot allow that to happen. I mean, how many
freaking Biden nominations got tanked during the Biden presidency. Those
people did far more damage to this country than any
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Trump nomination will ever do in three and a half
short ears. So there's not a single damn Republican out
there that should be voting against Pete Hegseth or anybody else.
We should not play the political the rules. We should
not play the game according to the rules that the
Democrats set. Republicans need to saddle up and vote for
Pete Hegseth because this guy is the answer to a
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lot of the Pentagon's problems.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
John, you are the man. Thank you, my brother.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Not just the military that needs a reckoning. Some evil
things were done to this country during COVID. Let's talk
to doctor Michael Schwartz about that.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Next.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
The thing that went right was the investment over decades
in the basic and clinical biomedical research that allowed us
to make a vaccine in unprecedented time of less than
a year that turned out to be safe and highly effective.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They are safe and so effective.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
We know that vaccines are safe and effective.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
That data is so compelling that these vaccines are safe
and effective.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Our data
from the CDCs today suggests that vaccinated people do not
carry the virus, don't get sick. So it's really quite
safe for you, the vaccinated person. It's not safe for
the unvaccinated person, especially if that person is taking off
their mask. If you are unvaccinated, we would recommend not traveling.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Remember all those lies I have not forgotten. I've not forgiven,
mainly because nobody has asked for my forgiveness. Joining me now,
Doctor Michael Schwartz, author of the book Vaccine Fiction, which
I would highly recommend you go pick up. Doctor, What
were the biggest lies that we were told about the vaccine?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Please take your time. You may need an hour.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
We would need a few hours, Jesse.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
I got to tell you we were the first company
to do a COVID test in the state of New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I had nineteen thousand patients.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
We did forty four thousand of them on multiple states,
and you know, we saw the data wasn't matching what
these folks were saying right from the start, talk about lies.
I wanted to jump through my TV every time somebody
gave a press conference and talked about this because the
data never matched what they were saying. Well, we were
seeing on the ground right from how testing works, you know,
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going through the numbers about the mortality rates. We predicted
the mortality rate of COVID was going to be point
zero one percent. In April of twenty twenty, So we
could go down the list. Now you know, we're into
the back scenes. The government data is out there, but
nobody wants to talk about it. And Harvard agrees with
me that only about one percent of what's out there
actually makes it into the database. So when you look
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at the numbers and you see forty thousand people at
least dead of the shots, multiply that by one hundred
and you get the real number. The amount of myocard
diti is perrotcard ditis anaphylaxis, and when you see it
according to the different shots. I get tired of these
people in the government talking about vaccines because they're misleading
to people right off the bat. First of all, these
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mRNA shots should never have been called vaccines. When you
say that to somebody who's seventy eighty ninety years old,
they think inoculation, They think lifetime immunity, polio lifetime be
ten years. They don't think what it really does. One
hundred and twenty eight antibody response like a flu shot.
I mean that's just inappropriate right off the bat. So
we could go down the list, Jesse, But I mean
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the list is so long it would take days.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Doctor, I need you to.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Let's focus on that last part really quickly, because there
are a lot of people like me who don't have
the intelligence to understand specifically what you just said. Why
is the COVID vaccine not considered a vaccine? What is
all this antibody stuff I slept through chemistry?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Explain?
Speaker 10 (33:14):
Well, Look, I mean you've got different types of vaccines
or what you call shots here. You've got live attenuated
that's what we use in polio, You've got viral vector.
These are older technologies. When you look at the mRNA technology,
this was never rolled out. This was a mass experiment
on the whole of the world back in twenty twenty one.
So when they use the words vaccines or and you know,
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I don't like to call them that just because it's
misleading to older people what they're used to back in
the day, those polio shots.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
I can't stand.
Speaker 10 (33:41):
When someone comes out and talks about RFK and people
like that and say, oh, they're going to bring polio back.
It's completely different technology. You're comparing apples to oranges. So
when you're telling when you're using the word vaccine, most
people think of long term immunity that live attenuated technology
that we've been using for years in the polio shots,
for instance, works very well and it's pretty safe.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
If you look at what Novavacs just came out with.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
Novavacs came out with a COVID shot and it virtually
has no issues. But it's live attenuated technology. The mRNA
technology is completely new. It's something we've never used until covid.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Okay, doctor.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
One thing that I will never forget in my life
is the ridiculous concept of social distancing. And I don't
even understand any of this virus stuff, but I know
when I'm standing on footprints in the grocery store six
feet behind the person in front of me, and I'm
paying and he's got this little plastic thing, I know
a scam and an idiocy when I see it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Can you talk about all that?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Sure, I'd love to you. I mean, you know, it's
one of the I wrote a book before vaccine. Fiction
is called Fauci's Fiction, not about Fauci, but it tells
you all the data that we saw in the beginning,
and that it goes over that the social distancing talks
about particle size. Look, the size of COVID is point
one micron Okay, it's about the same size of influenza A.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
The mass that we we're wearing.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Second dumbest thing I've ever seen in my lifetime. If
you are in an enclosed environment, you are just as
susceptible of getting flu A. You're as susceptible of getting
any viral, a pathogen like RSV, and then there's bacterial pathogens.
We don't wear surgical masks for viruses, just something we
don't do. So when I was in the grocery store
and I saw those ridiculous you know, I still have
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him in my grocery store now with those plastic things
where I can't I got to hand the guy the
money through the slot.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
It's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Just give me, you know, an hour on TV in
April of twenty twenty when this thing came out, and
we would have explained all this to the public. That's
why I think the media is culpable here. The government's culpable.
They've just done things that are anti science. I quote somebody,
doctor Lydia Baruba in my book from MIT, just the
breathing alone in a room with high speed cameras you
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saw the spread of particles was twenty seven point two feet,
not six feet. We're just making up numbers at this point,
which now the government admitted. But my point about you know,
Fauci's fiction and vaccine fiction was we were telling people
this way. I mean so early on April May June
of twenty twenty. We could have prevented all these businesses
from shutting down, suicide rates from going up, kids from
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being out of school. There's so much that we could
have stopped. And yeah, you're right, Jesse when you say
scam to purport that, to run with these narratives for
as long as we did and then control an election
with mail in Ballance, Yeah, it's preposterous.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
What the world did?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Okay, doctor, could you maybe help me understand why the
lies were so pervasive, because that's one thing that still
hits me so hard. I guess I was just naive.
But doctors. I realized doctors are not saints as soon
as you get that PhD. But doctors in general I
had always looked at as people who may get.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Things wrong, but care about your health.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
But the medical industry lies were so widespread, from the
most prestigious organizations it honestly, it soured me on the
entire medical profession.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's how that's why I still stand today, and I don't
blame you.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
I had a conversation with a medical student early during this,
when the vaccines first came out, and I said, this
is what we're seeing in the office. You know, we
don't use the word breakthrough cases because everybody's catching this.
You can get it, you can give it, whether you've
been shot up or not. It doesn't matter what the
government saying is false. And he stopped me and he
said you got to stop talking like that, and you
need to go along with this. And I said why,
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And he said, we're going to lose credibility if we
don't all get together and get behind this. And I said,
that's the wrong way to do medicine. Look, we never
required a mask in our offices. Ever the government wants
to come after me, go ahead, but it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
It's anti science. It's something we don't do.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Look, I never not recommended a shot because we thought
there'd be issues from it. So if you go put
yourself in my shoes, we never recommended a shot for
two reasons.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
One is they don't work.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
You get one hundred and twenty day antibody response from it,
which we can get into, and two is you didn't
need it. We didn't lose one patient in the entire time.
We treat it for a year leading up to the
shots when they came out. So if you were one
of my patients said do I need this shot, the
answer was a laughable no.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
You don't need it.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
It doesn't work and you don't need it. So those
are the only basic reasons why you don't. Why would
I give you something experimental for something that doesn't work,
in something you don't need. Now we're starting to see
the issues from this experimental technology. Now we're starting to
realize that it causes an inflammatory reaction in your body
and speeds things up. It's the twenty year old kid
who would have a joint issue at forty, but now
(38:19):
it's coming out early. It's the seventy year old. It's
the forty year old man who would have a hard
issue at seventy, but it's coming out early because it
exacerbates areas of weakness in your body for something, again
that you don't need, and for something that doesn't work, for.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
A freaking virus. At the point zero one mortality rate,
that is all right. Doctor, What do you think about
this medical cabinet? If you will, Donald Trump was putting
up We have guys like doctor j Batachari RFK juniors
getting put into ahhs.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
What do you think so far? Are you happy? Are
you thrilled? Are you angry?
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I was happy when I saw RFK.
Speaker 10 (38:55):
I'm not a fan of his politics, but as far
as when it comes to medicine, I think he's got
his finger on the Policy's done a lot of great
work in his life, the ones that get me upset,
or doctor Oz. Look the guy I just played a
video recently. He was forcing he was taken a vaccine
on air shot. Let's call it a shot, you know,
to show everybody, oh, these are safe and effective.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
What does that really do? Man Matte, I mean.
Speaker 10 (39:16):
And doctor Jeanette Nashauat, I mean, she she was. I
am there are no words. I am not happy about
her appointment.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
She was.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
She was behind Fauci, she was behind the shot, she
was behind the masking. The media was always about twelve
to eighteen months behind us and what we were telling
our patients, and that was very frustrating for people like
us who were trying to get the word out. What
were being ignored systematically, whether it was the bands on
you know, books from Amazon, from the director from the
White House, or for was because just MSNBC and CNN
(39:49):
with those death counts were making people think that this
thing was so bad that people looked at us like
we had four heads.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
You know.
Speaker 10 (39:56):
We'd come out every day with a different grouping of patients.
Sometimes we'd see two hundred people in a day between
our different offices or the places that we were going
to and doing on site work. And look, we were
calling patients every night, recording symptomology. I have something called
CT value if you're testing a patient appropriately and using
a respiratory pathogen. There's thirty one things on a respiratory pathogen.
(40:18):
And what we found, Jesse, was that the sickest of
the sick always had a co infection. Most people weren't
testing for co infections. We did this because and that's
why we were the first in the country to do this,
because we had used respiratory pathogens for years. We would
train other doctors in how to use this, but most
doctors don't want to pick them up. Number one, they
take a couple extra minutes for the doctor there's no
(40:40):
reimbursement for the doctor, so nobody wants to test appropriately.
So when you go to the doctor now or an
urgent care and you're not feeling well and they test
you for rapid covid, rapid flu, rapid strap, what are
they guessing at the other twenty eight things. The sickest
of the sick always had a co infection. So we
have CT value, which is viral load. We have co infection,
we have home morbidity, and we have antibody data on
(41:02):
all these patients.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Most people do not have that.
Speaker 10 (41:05):
On top of that, we called every single patient every
single night when they had a positive result to record symptomology.
Janette Nashawatt did not do that. Doctor Oz did not
do that. They didn't realize. I don't think out the
time that COVID wasn't as bad as it was, and
they wouldn't have been rushing out these people and especially
children to get shots. You know, they kept saying that
the folks who were older, who were more susceptible, needed
(41:27):
these things. They're the less people I would ever give
a shot too. I've I've had more family members dying
the last year. Some great friends of mine who were
all vaccinated, and they weren't feeling quite the same ever
since they got the abundance of the shots they got,
and a lot of times in the autopsy reports you
see things that are very indicative of what we see
(41:48):
normally with these shots. Abundance of cancer, rare cancer, onset
of cancer, rare cancers. You see inflammation in different parts
of the body, and a lot of these are caused
by these mRNA shots.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Doctor, thank you so much. That was awesome. Appreciate you
very much. Made me angry all over again. Don't worry.
We're not done though. We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Not revenge, I know that's the little headline we have
on there. But not revenge, reckoning justice. We must restore
this country to being one where the people in power
are also held to account under the law, and the
exact same way you are. If you cheat on your taxes,
you will be held to account. They will find you,
(42:45):
they will probably throw you in prison. Well that's fine,
you're a citizen. You need to follow the law. But
the people who make the laws, the people who enforce
the laws, the various bureaucratic agencies in this country, they
should be more accountable than you.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Are.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
The federal government should have a lot of people in
federal prison who were federal employees. That's how you restore
a justice in a country. There should be an entire
prison system designated for federal employees who lie, cheat, and steel,
and commit criminal acts with their job. That's what we need,
(43:23):
and hopefully one day that's what we'll get.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
We'll do it again.
Host
Jesse Kelly
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