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January 17, 2025 43 mins

Marco Rubio is being replaced. No, not as secretary of state, but as Senator of the state of Florida. Jesse Kelly reveals who the replacement is and gets reaction from Vince Coglianese. This comes as Trump's economic team testifies in their confirmation hearings. Jesse plays the highlights from those meetings and gives his thoughts. Plus, Biden's last acts of sabotage with Stu Burgiere and big changes coming to the White House press room with Sean Spicer.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Some more cabinet confirmation hearings today. We have to talk
about the elephant in the room we're all ignoring right now.
Sean Spicer joins us. Stu joins us. All that and
more coming up on I'm right, okay, So let's dig

(00:25):
into the elephant in the room we're all kind of
ignoring right now, the economy and the not in nerd terms,
what it means for you, what it means for me,
what it means for our standard of living, our purchasing power.
And we haven't been talking about this much because we're
all doing the exact same thing right now. I'm doing
the exact same thing you are doing.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
We won the election. Everything's good.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
We're all kind of wincing and cringing every time Joe
Biden wakes up in the mornings. We know he's going
to do something else terrible, but we're just kind of
biding our time until our all Monday rolls around. We
can get Trump in there and finally get some sanity
and all that. But we're all doing the same thing.
I'm in the exact same boat you are. But the
truth is real people, normal people are still suffering because.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Of what they've done. To the value of the dollar.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
And it looks like right now that's going to get
even worse. You see, inflation is because of government spending
and printing, period, end of story. Inflation is because of
government spending and printing.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I know you already know that. But the norms and
normas in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
They don't even if they get mad about the latest
spending bill that comes out of Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh, troion dollar.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Bill, that sucks, they don't put two and two together.
That is why you can't afford eggs anymore. Washington spending
and the communists are trying to torch as much as
they can possibly torch on the way out the door.
Inflation just came in hotter than it should have been.
Too point nine percent. That, of course, is tacked on

(02:02):
to the twenty percent plus inflation we've felt over the
last four years. That's why you used to buy a
dozen eggs for a dollar and now you're buying a
dozen eggs for six dollars. That's why you can't afford
to do basic construction anymore. The cost of living is
through the roof in every possible way. Well, congratulations, it's

(02:22):
getting worse. It continues to get worse. And what's Joe
Biden doing about it? Trying to shore things up on
the way out the door and get our fiscal house
in order, of course not. He just announced two point
four billion dollars in IRS stimmy checks getting sent out
to people. Another two point four billion we don't have,

(02:43):
so yet another dirtball politician can buy the approval of
the American people on the way out the door.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
This is gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I can't believe I'm gonna use this word. I hate
using this word. Everyone uses this word. Unsustainable. That's what
this is. It is unsustainable. And what's so crazy about
government spending? To me, I've always thought it was so crazy.
In fact, you've probably heard me ask a question along
the lot along these lines. Is everyone knows it's unsustainable.

(03:16):
It's not just like it's you or me. The people
who are doing the spend it. Senators, House of Representatives, presidents,
they all know it's unsustainable too, because it's basic paths.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
You can't you can't go on like this.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
You can't spend twice as much as you take in
without and that's not how life works, that's not how
economies work.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Everybody knows this has to stop.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
And nobody wants to stop it. I can't stand it.
I've used the analogy before. It look, I love my
own analogy so much I'm gonna use it again. Here
we as a country, we've had the biggest party in
the world. We rented out the biggest recreation com plaques
you've ever seen. They got go cards, open bar, yummy pete,

(04:04):
some music, and we have just been putting everything on
the credit card.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Woo keep the party going.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
But we know, everyone knows there's a limit on the
credit card, and we're all sitting there watching. We have
the we have the app on our phone. We're watching
as we approach the limit, and nobody. Nobody wants to
turn on the lights, turn off the music and say,
hey guys, it was fun.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's cleanup time. Nobody wants to do it, and everyone
knows it needs to be done.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
And who suffers? We suffer. I'm not worried about the politicians.
I'm frankly not worried about Democrats. Of course, I'm not
really worried about Republicans.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I'm not worried. I'm worried about you.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I'm worried about the American people, watching their standard of
living go into the toilet.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Now it looks like we.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Have some some level of sanity coming in. Of course,
because Trump has his pick. Scott Bescent ca am out today.
This is what he said.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
The federal government has a significant spending problem, driving deficits
that have averaged an historically high seven percent of GDP
during the past four years. We must work to get
our fiscal house in order and adjust federal domestic discretionary
spending that has grown by an astonishing forty percent over

(05:25):
the past four years. Productive investment the grosy economy must
be prioritized over wasteful spending that drives inflation. As President
Trump has said, we will unlease the American economy by
implementing pro growth regulatory policies, reducing taxes, and unleashing American

(05:45):
energy production. For too long, our nation has allowed unfair
distortions in the international trading system. President Trump was the
first president in modern times to recognize the need to
change our trade policy and stand up for American workers.
If confirmed, I look forward to working with President Trump

(06:06):
and members of this committee to do just that.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Sounds good. We'll see what he can do.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I did enjoy him tearing apart Senator Widen, who's piece
of crab.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Now there is a big effort in the Trump administration
to reverse it. I think that's going to be bad
for the economy, but it is going to be damn
good for China because we are in an arms race
and clean energy with him. Are you going to be
on the side of people who want to unravel this?

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Senator the Senator Widen, Just so we can frame this
for everyone in the room, China will build a hundred
new coal plants this year.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
There is not a clean energy race. There is an
energy race. It's pretty good, It's pretty true.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Of course, the communists in this country have told you
it's all about the solar panels. But China makes the
solar panels. They don't rely on the solar panels. China
relies on the coal plants they're putting up. Yeah, rue,
gigantic flee sign of the taxpayer. So we have a
mountain to climb, and Congress has to get serious about it.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Now, maybe you heard Chip Roy come on this show.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Doesn't sound like Congress wants to turn on the lights
and turn down the music and stop the.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Party, does it.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
My colleagues have their head up their rear right now,
and they're about to try to go do a deal
with Democrats to pass that monster appropriations package rather than
cutting spending and limiting the size and scope of government,
which is no way to start things under the Trump administration.
We wanted upfront cuts and in exchange for that, secure
the border, defense and a debt ceiling increase for the president,
but our swamp preacher colleagues are rejecting that, and instead

(07:48):
what they're talking about now is the monster, big reconciliation package,
which won't have the cuts in place that need to
be put in place unless we fight for them.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
And importantly, they're.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Now talking about taking the debt ceiling probably four years
and ten trillion dollars, attaching that to the appropriations package,
plus stop plus funding for California, and put that all
in one great big package, because that's the way swamp
creatures think.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Does that sound like these people are going to tackle
inflation to you?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Doesn't sound like it to me.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
But Trump's Office of Management and Budget looks to be
staffed with some really solid people.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Now most people don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
In case, maybe you're a little fuzzy on it, Mark Palette,
Remember he came on the show and explain what it does.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
What it does is it's a sort of tip of
the spear as we viewed ourselves within the Executive Office
of the President.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
They set it up so that.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
There is this office that's big enough to help kind
of oversee the rest of the other agencies to help
them make them support the president's agenda. Sometimes you have agencies,
right the State Department, other places that kind of go
off track. So they help put together the budget for
the president. Right, So all the agencies submit their their
request and what they want to spend things on and

(09:05):
all that kind of stuff. It goes into OMB. RUSS
is the one and working with those agencies and working
with the president in the White House to finalize that
budget and make it, you know, the budget that the
president presents up to Congress. Then it's actually working with
those agencies to make sure that they are implementing it
as the year goes along, and there's a lot of power,

(09:25):
there's a lot of levers to help make sure that
the president's agenda is being implemented at the agency level.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
And so that's that's what OMB does by and large.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Okay, so who's this RUSS guy it's Russ bout and
Russ killed it.

Speaker 9 (09:41):
Today, nearly eighty percent of Americans do not feel confident
that their children will lead better lives than they have.
That's nearly double the forty percent of Americans who said
the same just two decades ago. When I look at
government waste in our national debt, I know I fear
for my daughter's futures. Almost half of our fellow citizens

(10:03):
expect their standard of living to be worse than that
of their parents. We have to use taxpayer dollars wisely
because inflation driven by irresponsible federal spending taxes Americans twice.
The average American household has lost roughly two thousand of
purchasing powers just since January twenty twenty one. The forgotten

(10:25):
men and women of this country, those who work hard
every day in cities and towns across this country, deserve
a government that empowers them to achieve their dreams.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Sounded pretty good, and we always enjoy it when our
sharp people slap around Democrats.

Speaker 10 (10:46):
And I'm deeply concerned about reporting that indicates that you
designed the plan to abuse the National Emergency Act to
circumvent laws passed by Congress by moving military construction money
to build the border.

Speaker 9 (10:59):
Wall specific losing specifically using the transfer authority that had
been provided in the language of the Department of Defense
appropriations to be able to transfer transfer that authority UH
to the Army Corps of Engineers for its use on
the border wall. It was specifically a transfer authority that
Congress had given the President in the underlying appropriation.

Speaker 11 (11:20):
You know, you said that OMB was not an agency
where you had a bureaucratic problem, but which bureaucracies specifically
do you believe have been weaponized?

Speaker 9 (11:30):
Again, I'm not going to get into all of the
agencies that I believe have some of those characteristics.

Speaker 12 (11:35):
I've an example of one.

Speaker 9 (11:36):
I mean, well, I think you know, the Department of
Justice is clearly one that has bureaucracies within it that
engaged in trying to take out their own president during
the first term. The extent to which the FBI goes
and investigates someone that comes to a school board meeting
in Louding County for being concerned about the white the

(11:56):
situation with his daughter and then gets investigated as a domestic.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Pretty good.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
All that may have made you uncomfortable or maybe very comfortable,
made me uncomfortable, but I am right now Trump's talking
about creating an external revenue service.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
What is all this about.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
We'll talk to Vince about that in just a moment
before we do, and we talk to you about putting
your money where your morals are, because when you look
at all these government meetings and budget hearings and things
like that, does it ever occur to you that you
fund all that, I fund all that.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
We go to work every day and these people steal
our money and we pay for all that garbage. You
realize that.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
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Speaker 2 (13:01):
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Speaker 1 (13:03):
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Speaker 2 (13:18):
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Speaker 2 (13:25):
We'll be back.

Speaker 13 (13:34):
The final criteria I used was because you can say
all those things and say you stand for it. I
wanted somebody with a demonstrated record of delivering results on
those important issues. Talk is cheap. We need people that
have demonstrated fidelity to these principles with their actions. So
that is why today I'm proud to announce that I

(13:56):
am selecting our Attorney General, Ashley Muted the Service, our
next US Senator.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Okay, what does that mean? I mean this Ashley Moody character.
What do you know about her? We don't have very
many good senators. There's like four of them. Is she
going to be one of them? Let's ask Vince about that.
Joining me now, host of the Vince Colonies show, Vince
culinaies himself. Okay, Vince, most people don't live in Florida.

(14:30):
While the politicos like you and I are going to
be familiar with Ashley Moody, most people are not.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Who is she? What's she all about?

Speaker 14 (14:37):
Well, Ashley Moody is one of the good Republicans who
were one of the few people who had a chance
to fight back against the Biden administration with any power,
because remember these past few years, Republicans have been in
the political wilderness, and so the only people who really
had a chance to fight back against the Biden administration
were the state attorneys general, and in Florida, Ashley Moody

(14:58):
has been one of those. She has fought back against
the COVID mandates imposed by the Biden administration. She has
been relentlessly fighting back against our adversary China in whatever
capacity she can in Florida. And you know, she's basically
had a pretty good track record, including going after Jack

(15:19):
Smith for the raid on mar A Lago, in defending
President Trump's rights as well as his co defendants down
there to the best.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Of her ability.

Speaker 14 (15:27):
So I think, in terms of the kinds of signals
that you and I are going to look for, is
this the kind of person who should be a senator?
I think Desanta's probably picked someone who at least has
on paper a pretty good record that that would say, Okay,
she seems acceptable.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
What a surprise DeSantis delivers on something like he always does.
What do we know about her? I know she was
a g But what do we know about her when
it comes to illegals, when it comes to guns, when
it comes to spending, what do.

Speaker 12 (15:54):
We know on the issue of illegal immigration.

Speaker 14 (15:57):
She's also been very tough on border, so again, just
as a state attorney general, as a prosecutor, she's been
really focused on that issue, suggesting of course that in
the United States Senate she'll be focused on it there
as well.

Speaker 12 (16:09):
And that's consistent, by the.

Speaker 14 (16:10):
Way, with the entire upper you know, the upper regime
in Florida led by Ron DeSantis, who have been relentless
in terms of helping focus on the border issue and
trying to address it, even going so far as deporting
illegals to Martha's vineyard in order to force the Left
to have to deal with the problem that they created.
So again, Ashley Moody gets good marks there.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, speaking of Senate seats, we're now being told that
Vivek is being pushed to go for that open Senate
seat in Ohio. I thought Vivek was going to head
up doze with elon what's happening with all this.

Speaker 14 (16:49):
Well, you know, when he started basically going silent over
the last few weeks, it really came in the wake
of him suggesting he put himself in the hornet's nest
in terms of what it seemed to be a pretty
big approval of the H one B visa program, and
it didn't seem quite as focused on America first as
people wanted, and so he kind of he kind of

(17:12):
fell out of the public debate. But that's a little
unusual Vig for v VIC, because you know, when he's
in the center of the ploybal debate, he kind of
likes to stay there. I started to suspect at that
time that may be a play for a higher office.
The reason we're not hearing quite so much from him
is because something else is planned now.

Speaker 12 (17:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
It doesn't strike me.

Speaker 14 (17:32):
In the past, it seemed like he was out of
the running to be a senator.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
There.

Speaker 14 (17:36):
There's also some conversation of whether or not he wants
to run for governor. So we'll see what happens with VVIG.
But look, he's a pretty effective communicator, and when he
screws up, it's entirely appropriate for the rest of us
to roll up a newspaper and bunk him on the head.

Speaker 12 (17:51):
But I like VVIC on our side. I think he's
pretty talented.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Speaking of dark money, there's a lot of talk about
dark mind out there. Joe Biden talked about dark money yesterday.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
We need to get dark money.

Speaker 15 (18:05):
That's that hidden funding behind too many campaigns contributions. We
need to get it out of our politics.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I thought Joe Biden was the king of that.

Speaker 14 (18:16):
He just gave George Soros a Medal of Freedom like
like four days ago. I think, yeah, No, he wants
to get dark money out of politics. You know, that
speech was sad first and foremost because of his feeble delivery,
which of course we've come to expect. But the hilarity
of it is the never ending gaslighting that we are

(18:38):
subjected to by the left.

Speaker 12 (18:39):
For him to sit there.

Speaker 14 (18:40):
And suggest that that there's an oligarchy forming, that there's
rich interests, dark money interests who are forming to take
over the country is pretty rich. Coming from a guy
whose party controls almost every single meaningful institution in our
country has done it with glee and with reckless abandon
It's you know, of course President Trump gets elected to

(19:00):
reject that, and if a couple of rich guys do
want to support Trump and the agenda that I believe
in and that you believe in. Fine, glad to have
them on our side.

Speaker 12 (19:09):
That doesn't mean we stop scrutinizing them.

Speaker 14 (19:11):
But the idea that the Left is somehow speaking for
the common man is just flatly absurd and untrue, especially
given that they seem to only line their own pockets
and serve their own interest.

Speaker 12 (19:21):
Hunter Biden was standing in the room.

Speaker 14 (19:24):
With Joe as he as he made that address last night,
so they're as brazen as ever.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
The External Revenue Service, this is an idea of Trump's,
so I'm assuming it's one he's going.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
To follow through on. What do we think about this?
What do we know about this?

Speaker 14 (19:42):
Well, this gets to the point that the President made
on the campaign trail relentlessly, which is he wants to
get back to the late eighteen hundred structure of the
United States when it came to how we collect revenues,
and that was to impose tariffs on foreign countries and
to encourage the production of American made products and which consumers,

(20:03):
of course, would turn to in an environment where you
have international products being more expensive, We're dealing with a
lot of adversaries who play by very unfair rules, especially China.
Which steals so much technology and is of course very meddlesome.

Speaker 12 (20:18):
They rely on slave labor.

Speaker 14 (20:19):
I mean, it's about as awful as it can possibly
get when in terms of China's manufacturing in their process,
it's not a fair playing field. The President wants to
address that, and he thinks it's going to be very
good for the country. So with that in mind, you know,
I hate the irs. I hate having to deal with
them every year. The idea that somebody else would be
paying the revenues to the Treasury outside of this country,

(20:42):
the External Revenue Service, I'm feeling good about.

Speaker 12 (20:44):
That already, and in terms of how it would work.

Speaker 14 (20:47):
Look, these agencies, including the Treasury Department specifically, they've already
got office as dedicated to how they handle tariffs. He's
probably going to rename a couple of them, call it
the External Revenue Service. But the big thing here, Jesse,
is it's a sign of his seriousness. He wasn't just
saying it to get elected.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
He meant it.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
I like it, but a more serious Trump this time,
totally on board with it. Vince as always, awesome work,
Come back soon, please, all right, we should probably talk.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
To Stu just see what Stu's brewing on.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
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Speaker 2 (22:08):
We'll be back.

Speaker 15 (22:17):
Establishing one of the Highlands National Monument. Here we go.
You gotta fill this in. I know, Santina. I'm gonna
try the day of in this hand. You're filling the
dates here, guys, all right.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Four years, guys, guys, been running the country for four years.
I can't wait to hear what Stu has to say
about that and other things. Joining me now obviously host
of Stu does America Freaking Hilarious, one of my favorite shows,
Stu burg Year. Okay, first of all, Stu job has
obviously not been running anything for four years.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
But who has Everyone keeps that is that Susan Rice
is his which wife? Who's actually been the commander in
chief for four years?

Speaker 7 (23:13):
You know?

Speaker 11 (23:13):
I don't know, But whoever it is is running it
into the ground, and I'm glad to see that this
is over it just a couple of days. It's fascinating
to watch this. I keep getting reminded that he's actually
president of the United States. He's still President Jesse. It's
happening right now. We are in severe danger. This man

(23:34):
still holds whatever power he seems to hold. He's using
it quite a bit. But man, it is fascinating to watch.
I hadn't seen that clip yet. I had heard about it,
but I hadn't.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Seen it yet.

Speaker 16 (23:45):
It's he's not kidding.

Speaker 11 (23:47):
He doesn't go to the audience and be like, oh,
can you guys fill in the dates? They all laugh
he's just an old man who doesn't know what he's
supposed to do.

Speaker 16 (23:54):
Don't laugh at him, Stu.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
You mentioned about all the damn they're doing on the
way out.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
He's springing you many terrorists from Guantanamo Bay, handing out
billions and.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Checks somebody did you name it? They're doing it right,
letting people off scott free.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is Joe Biden? I can't help but think as I
look at all the crap he's doing. Is he just
completely free of worrying about the Democrat parties since they
screwed him over So if he's going to hurt their
pull numbers some more on the way out, screw them.

Speaker 16 (24:24):
Yeah, I think that might be.

Speaker 11 (24:26):
That might be part of why they're removing Cuba from
the terror list, which was a pretty big one that
a lot of Democrats in Florida were pissed off about.
They're like, we're already getting killed in this state, Like
now you're going to do this. He doesn't seem to
care about much of anything right now, and you know, he.

Speaker 16 (24:43):
Keeps doing the things that he's doing.

Speaker 11 (24:44):
You mentioned, you know the student you know student loans,
more of these unconstitutional student loan you know, situations where
they're just giving basically our money to people who took
out loans and they don't have to repay them anymore.
You've got that going on. Of course, the off sor
drilling is another one. We've been doing a series of
shows called Biden's Parting Shots, and he just keeps doing

(25:05):
them over and over and over again. One that wasn't
covered all that widely. You know, you may have hit it, Jesse,
but I don't think a lot of people know about it.
Was this idea that they are now forcing. They're implementing
a situation where they cannot put medical.

Speaker 16 (25:21):
Debt on credit reports.

Speaker 11 (25:23):
So if you owe one hundred thousand dollars because of
some surgery, you know, some terrible thing that's happened, and
you go to get a loan, they are making it
so the banks can't see that you owe one hundred
thousand dollars to somebody else. And like, while I can
I have empathy for people who go through a situation
like that. Obviously it's terrible and you hope to avoid it,
but like, what what does that put into place? Like

(25:46):
these companies are going to make loans to people they
don't understand their credit score they don't understand what's going
on with them. When they can't make the payments, all
of their projections are going to be off. Does anybody
remember two thousand and eight? Does anybody remember what went on?
It's the same situation and he's implementing it intentionally this.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Time, Stuve Houston get remembered. Is it a Jimmy Carter
style presidency where even today, I mean my sons who
obviously were not alive when Jimmy Carter was there. I
wasn't alive when Jimmy Carter was there, but everyone just
kind of knows all in Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's kind of sucked. Is that how Joe's going to
be remembered? Because that's really how he should be remembered.

Speaker 11 (26:25):
Oh, you know, I Jesse, I would say that is
his absolute best case scenario, if he could be seen
in his eyes as Jimmy Carter, who I think we
all look at him as incompetent and a bad president,
but generally speaking, you know, a nice guy and not
like I don't think of him as one of the

(26:45):
villains of America American history per se. You know, I
have a much lower opinion of a guy like Lyndon
Johnson than I do of Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 16 (26:54):
Biden, though, is in that camp. I mean he has.

Speaker 11 (26:57):
He has governed as the most progressive president arguably in history.
Thank god that damage is only limited to four years.
But he's packed a lot of entertainment in those four years.
And I made this point before the election, and I
think it will hold true to the day I die.
The remembrance of Joe Biden, whether he should be elected

(27:18):
or not, how he should be seen on presidential lists,
just Afghanistan is enough. You need nothing else to know
about this guy's legacy. He's done dozens of other horrible
things throughout his presidency, but just the way that Afghanistan withdrawal,
if you can call it that, played out is so
destructive to the American experiment, to the legacy of this country.

Speaker 16 (27:42):
To what we've done, what it means globally to our allies.

Speaker 11 (27:46):
It was so horrible that just that one thing is
enough to put him near the very bottom of all presidents.
And if he's not, I mean, he may be at
the very bottom, honestly, I think is the way that
people are going to remember him.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
They really maybe at the very bottom. Speaking of bottoms.
Where do they dig up their next candidate from. I
mean Pete Budajeedge obviously is going to run, Gavin Newsom
is going to run. Who's on the bench because I
know Dome will probably run again. But after you tear
through one point five billion dollars, she's gonna get the

(28:18):
same two percent in the next primary that she got
in the last one she actually ran in.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Who's the next guy?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
They got to come up with one pretty quick?

Speaker 16 (28:26):
You know, it's a good point.

Speaker 11 (28:27):
I think you know, the terrible La fires as a
city burned down, so did Gavin Newsom twenty twenty eight.
So I think that one's gone at this point. You know,
you're right with Kamala. I don't think she has any chance.

Speaker 16 (28:39):
She's not.

Speaker 11 (28:40):
I don't think she's hated in the way that Hillary
Clinton is hated on the on the left, because they
saw the Hillary Clinton thing as this like unimaginable loss.
How did you blow this? Where Kamala I think they've
they've ended with this excuse series where they're like, oh, well,
you know, she got in last minute, and they keep
coming up with excuses. I don't think they despise her,
but I don't think she can win. I think the

(29:02):
big winner of the twenty twenty four campaign for the
Democrats was Josh Shapiro, the fact that he wasn't picked
when I think quite obviously he should have been the
pick instead of Tim Walls, who's an absolute embarrassment and
will be forgotten if he isn't forgotten already in weeks.
But Josh Shapiro was the guy who I think, now
you kind of look back and maybe they should have
picked him.

Speaker 16 (29:22):
He's still kind of clean in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 11 (29:24):
He hasn't had, you know, any big national scandals of
note that people know about. So I mean, I guess
if I were to pick one right now, I might
lean towards Shapiro, who has a lot of that sort
of you know they say, has that Obama style charm,
and he's been at times oddly pragmatic and sane. Like
after the Trump assassination, he wasn't.

Speaker 16 (29:46):
Like, actually he wasn't shot, it was glassed.

Speaker 11 (29:48):
From the telepropert. He was really, you know, he was
like pretty sane at that point. It's saying how terrible
it was, And I thought, handle that situation.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
Well.

Speaker 16 (29:58):
He's had a couple of other.

Speaker 11 (29:59):
Situations He's handled okay when it comes to you know,
bridge collapses and such.

Speaker 16 (30:02):
So I don't know if you're going to pick one this.

Speaker 11 (30:04):
Far out, which is probably too early, i'd say, Shapiro.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I guess we'll see if the whole being Jewish thing
is still a problem for Democrat primary voters, because it
certainly was the last time. Still sure was you are
the man brother, come back soon? Almost forgot I almost
forgot that after Trump got shot in the head. We
even had people like Christopher Ray speculating, well, I mean,

(30:30):
might have just been glass. We're not really sure these
people are psychopaths.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Anyway, We're not quite done yet.

Speaker 17 (30:36):
Hang on, we're sort of dancing around who gets to
take credit for the steal?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
No one's dancing around here.

Speaker 18 (30:53):
Apartment for our colleagues that Present Times was critical and
getting the steal over the line.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Do you not agree with that?

Speaker 15 (31:00):
I mean, look, I'm not going to speak to a
random person.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I don't know who this person is.

Speaker 9 (31:07):
I'm not gonna learn.

Speaker 18 (31:08):
Oh what I can say is, look, obviously Matt Miller
will speak for himself.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Some random person the spokesman for their own state department.
What an odd, odd bunch of communists in the White
House joining me now my friend Sean Spicer of the
Wonderful Sean Spicer's Show. Sean, you have stood at that podium.
You've done that job. Not an easy job by any
stretch of the imagination. Give old Coron diversity higher a grade.

(31:39):
How'd she do what?

Speaker 19 (31:43):
I don't know this because the best I got an
f once, but I don't know what's below that because
back actually they I got like this circle around it.

Speaker 7 (31:49):
It was like you were actually really failing.

Speaker 19 (31:52):
Let me just tell you a couple things that are
important since you played that clip. Number one, it really
shows how what a moron she is. The idea that
you call the State Department spokesman a random person. Number two,
that you don't know them. Number three, you haven't coordinated it.
What do I mean by that? Just your viewers get this.

(32:15):
If I were going out when I was at the
US Trade Reps Office and I was the spokesman Dana
Prino Tony Snow with the press secretaries in the White House,
I would tell them I'm going out. We're going to
announce something. This is what we're saying. Here are talking boys.
Here's our statement. On it for approval to make sure
that that was consistent with what they were going to
say on the podium.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
Conversely, when I was Press.

Speaker 19 (32:33):
Secretary, I would make sure all the agencies, etc. Let
me know what they were going to be saying, so
I could say earlier, the White House, I mean, the
State Department, the Department Defense, etc.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Said the following right.

Speaker 19 (32:46):
So that reveals such a level of incompetence that I
don't know where to begin.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
But as I was getting ready for the.

Speaker 19 (32:55):
Show and your team said that they wanted to play
this clip, I thought of another thing that I'm going
to give exclusively to Jesse Kelly. I have said that
there are two things that Caroline Levitt has going for
her coming into this job as White House Press Secretary.
Number One, she worked there before. That's just an inherent advantage.
She understands the logistics of the press operations that most

(33:18):
folks don't get the opportunity to do. Number Two, she
has a fantastic relationship with Donald Trump. Okay, those are
the two things that I've been telling people why I
think she'll be successful. When your producer said that they
were going to play.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
This clip, I thought, I'm adding a third.

Speaker 19 (33:36):
When I became pres secretary, I've succeeded Josh Ernst, who
was President Obama's last pre secretory. Josh was very competent
at the job. He's a very nice guy, very well
liked by the press corps, and so it was difficult
coming into a job where you knew that everybody liked Josh.

(33:56):
You did a very good job, right, So I had
to go, oh, gosh, I'm following this guy. Granted he's
from the other party that clearly everybody likes and they
respect him. Caroline's walking into a job where as long
as you breathe, you are going to do a better
job than this one.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's all about the starting point.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
It's all about where the bar is.

Speaker 19 (34:22):
I had a buddy of mine back in the day
who was taking a job and he said, the current
person in there is horrible, and I said, that's the beauty.
All you have to do is suck less. You don't
even have to do a good job. And that's what
Caroline has to do going in now. Unfortunately, Donald Trump's
a tough boss. But literally after cringe onhn Pierre, you
just have to suck less.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
What do you mean, tough boss?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
He call you in after your press conferences and whip
you for things or what.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
There was no physical violence, but there was the verbal equivalent.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Oh oh, Sean, I've got to know what you grew
up that made him mad.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Give it to me.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
Oh.

Speaker 19 (35:03):
I remember during the transition, at one point I had
recommended there was this opportunity. The New York Times wanted
him to go to the New York Times and I said,
what are you kidding me?

Speaker 7 (35:14):
You just became president. You don't go to them.

Speaker 19 (35:16):
They come to you, and frankly, the New York Times sucks,
and I don't think we should do it.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
And he lit into me.

Speaker 19 (35:22):
And I never forget this because another senior aide at
the time looked over at me and said, don't worry,
that's nothing, And I said, are you kidding me?

Speaker 7 (35:29):
I've never been you know.

Speaker 19 (35:31):
But but Trump just he's I mean, on the flip side,
just to be fair and clear, when you knock it
out of the park, he lets you know that too, right,
So he is unbelie.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
You never worry about where you stand with Donald Trump.

Speaker 19 (35:43):
Like when I when I did well, he I mean
I got a bear hug from him once.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
But when you screw up.

Speaker 19 (35:50):
You don't have to wonder what he thinks.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Sean doesn't this back up the point I made a
long time ago switching gears back to university higher that Jensaki.
Of course, I was not a fan of Jensaki, but
she did the job of press secretary very well.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
She had to be press secretary for.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
A non functional old man surrounded by communists, but she
lied very well, represented herself, represented him as good as
you can possibly do. And I used to tell everyone that,
and they said I was crazy until a carein got there,
and I remember, everyone sees what I saw. Jenzaki was
not bad at the.

Speaker 19 (36:26):
Job, right, Cring Jumpierre is like asking me to perform
orthopedic surgery. I have no ability to do that and
no formal training. Jensaki, lover hater, your analysis is exactly right.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
She was a trained professional. Okay, she spent a career.

Speaker 19 (36:46):
She was the State Department's booksman, Obama's campaigns booksman. She'd
been the White House communications director. Kring Jompierre was Kamala
Harris's campaign chief of staff. She was a few organizer
for that's not kidding seriously, and she was John Edwards.
If you're North Carolina a field organizer for him.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
She she wasn't a press person.

Speaker 19 (37:10):
They literally and I will tell you this because I've
had this discussion with others and this isn't anything and
you know secret that I've shared with Caroline. But your
principal deputy in the press office is, in military terms,
your exo. They are your right hand. They are keeping
the trains on time. They are making sure that when
you are in countless meetings of massive importance that they

(37:34):
have your They are your eyes and ears, Corine. I mean,
Jensaki chose her to be her exo, her right hand,
her number two, her senior.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
Executive vice president.

Speaker 19 (37:45):
I wouldn't hire that woman for anything, and so it
does make me question jen Saki, her judgment, the idea
that you tell people. And by the way, on the
way out, she's the most qualified person to do this job.
I mean that's look, I get you have to lie
for Biden, but at some point that's for your reputation, Sean.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
One thing I have really enjoyed is Jill Biden not
really keeping that much of a lid on the complete
disdain she has for Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, all the
rest of them. I am so enjoying the Palace intrigue,
mainly because we're not involved, and it's all the worst
people in the world throwing poop.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
At each other. I think it's fantastic.

Speaker 7 (38:29):
So I'm going to give you the word of the day,
and I'm gonna steal it.

Speaker 19 (38:31):
I gotta, I gotta give credit where credit is do
my buddy, Tony Katz. The word of the day is bitter,
and Jill Biden is bitter. If you read the story
in the Washington Post, She's pissed at Nancy Pelosi. The
interaction with her at the with with Kamala at the

(38:51):
Carter funeral was epic. I mean it is. She is she.
She does not mince words. She is petty and bitter
and it shows. And I, frankly, it's not that I
don't understand it. I mean Kamala Harris trashed bo Biden.
She trashed them. She lost the race in epic fashion.

(39:12):
She blamed Joe Biden. She did a horrible job after
having the mantle handed to her. She's pissed at Nancy
Pelosi for throwing her her husband under the bus and
thought that they actually were friends.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
Welcome to Washington get a dog.

Speaker 19 (39:27):
I mean these guys couldn't I mean, by the way,
just as a side note, the Bidens couldn't even get
a dog the right way, the dog bit it.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
I mean they.

Speaker 19 (39:33):
Always you know, what's that famous saying like if you
can't find a friend and get a dog, they can't
even get that right the dog bit everyone.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Sean.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Does this take some of the bloom off of Barack
Obama's rose? I know, Barack Obama was instrumental in knifing
Joe Biden out the White House.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Barack Obama was also.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Instrumental and rallying one point five billion dollars for Kamala
Harris to light on fire in front of the entire country.
Barack Obama is a mover and a shaker in Democrat circles?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Does this diminish him a little?

Speaker 7 (40:11):
So there's two ways to look at this.

Speaker 19 (40:14):
I've generally looked at it for the longest time as
he can't get anybody to succeed him, they're not rallying.

Speaker 7 (40:21):
But on the same time, you do have to flip
it and say, does this make him look better?

Speaker 19 (40:27):
Like, look at all I was able to do, and
nobody can hit that bar again, right, look at how
awesome I am. Joe Biden couldn't hit it, Kamala Harris
couldn't hit it. I'm the only one who can hit it.
I'm the only popular person. You've got to stick with me.
I'm the only one who can beat anybody. I'm the
only one who can mobilize and organize and unify the party.

(40:50):
Everybody else has tried. So I guess the question is
what is his goal? Is his goal to create an
army of successors or all because you can't. I mean,
Bill Clinton's tarnished, right, no one wants to be I
mean we all have now come to realize that, like
you know, the literally what they're what the bloom and
all the pedals and everything has come.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
Off that rose.

Speaker 19 (41:13):
So Barack Obama is the only living guy in the
Democratic Party that's a draw. And there's got to be
something inside him that says, hey, this isn't bad being
the kingmaker, the guy that everybody who wants to run
has to come kiss their ass. I mean, there's all
those stories Pete boodaggch others, and they make the trip
and they ask him, what can you do?

Speaker 7 (41:31):
And how should I win?

Speaker 19 (41:32):
And what should my strategy be the second that there's
a next person.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
Then he's not the guy anymore.

Speaker 19 (41:40):
And I have started to think that he enjoys everyone
else losing because he remains in pole position in the
Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I could see that John as always, thank you, my friend.
I appreciate it. Light in the mood. Time next. All right,
it is time to lighten the mood.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
And as always, do not forget to go subscribe to
the YouTube channel. We have things on there you can't
get here YouTube dot com slash at Jesse KELLYDC.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I know it's a mouthful, so just scan the whole thing.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
If there's one thing.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
We enjoy on this show, now and forever, it's making
fun of Adam Schiff, who fell asleep yesterday.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Iks you do you agree with me?

Speaker 2 (42:34):
It?

Speaker 5 (42:35):
I need I doe warfare SBNI from a line influence,
an existential threat, nappy time, it.

Speaker 18 (42:44):
Is an existential threat, Senator. And also I have not
seen it yet, but from what I've heard about FBI.
Former FBI Director of raised comments on sixty minutes regarding
China sleep, our cells within our our water systems, our
natural gas lines, telecomune.

Speaker 7 (43:05):
A very.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Coouldn't happy time killed me. I'll see them

Speaker 3 (43:19):
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