December 9, 2025 • 45 mins
Immigration is THE top issue for Democrats in their quest for power and control. Surely Republicans are being a proper opposition party, right? Think again. Jesse Kelly breaks down the latest act of betrayal from a Republican Senator. This comes as the Supreme Court hears a plethora of immigration challenges, as well as another landmark case. Professor William A. Jacobson joins Jesse to analyze the big cases. One case has to do with redistricting. Which begs the question, how will Republicans do in the midterms? Jesse and Sean Spicer catch up on that.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Immigration, and the low TGP, the Supreme Court, Sean Spicer.
I don't even know how we're gonna fit it all
in tonight. I'm right, all right, So this is gonna
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be an immigration talk. It's gonna be about the low TGP,
it's gonna be about all these things. But before I
get into specifically immigration, I just want to say, there's
talk on the right, and there has been for a
long time and on the left about how we're gonna
be in a civil war one day, God forbid. Right,
there's nothing worse. Don't ever root for that, by the way,
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nothing worse than a civil war. Read a history book.
It's always awful. But there's always talk about it. Hey,
I could see we're gonna be in a civil war.
Where a civil war is coming. We need a civil war.
We hear people talk like that, And again I just
want to emphasize, don't ever root for that.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But in some ways maybe we already are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And a great, great, great thing I can use to
point that out is the current arguments over illegal immigrants
and illegal immigration. We shift the Overton window in our
society to such a point where we don't even realize
how insane it is. That we're having an argument about something.
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Entering a country illegally is bad. If you have entered
the country illegally or your visa expires and then you
become illegal, you should be deported from the country. Now,
I want you to think about what I just said.
Is that partisan. You could take just those two or
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three sentences, however many it were, and take those sentences
back to any country throughout history and say that to
them before there was ever a Republican party, before it
was a Democratic party, or before there was America, before anything,
don't come in illegally. If you find someone here illegally,
deport them. In every country, if the history of the
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world would say, well, yeah, obviously, that's the whole point
of a border. That's the whole point of having an
illegal immigration system of some kind, because that's an obvious point.
You don't want people to call me legally. If you
find them, you should deport them again. Not even partisan,
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shouldn't be anyway. It's a basic truth.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But wrap your mind around this.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I can't believe where we are we have two major
political parties in the United States of America. We'll get
to the useless gup in a moment, but one of
the two major political parties in the country is admitted
to bringing in as many foreigners as they possibly can.
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So committed they'll send United States planes to foreign lands
and fill the planes up with foreigners and.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Fly them into the country.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
They then will take your money and hand it out
to NGOs, hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, billions
of dollars hand it out to NGOs to ensure these
foreigners are spread all throughout the United States of America.
They used your money to create an app, an app
so foreigners could schedule their invasion into the country. That
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was four years hundred, Joe Biden. Now now we have
fens of millions of them here, and that brings me
to the second part of the basic foreign policy, illegal
immigration policy. I guess I should say discussion we're having now.
We have to get them out. But every single area
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in this country that is controlled by Democrats has dedicated
themselves to keeping them all here.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Before I even.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Play Zooran Mandani and the rest of them, just pause
for a moment and think about that, we're already in
some kind of a civil war.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I hope it stops here. I hope they back off.
I hope we can save the country. But we're not
a unified country of fifty states anymore. We're not fifty
United States anymore. There are hostile communist city states inside
the borders of our country who have declared in every
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way war on this country. And I don't know how
we get out of this. What's the incoming mayor of
our biggest, most important city.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
As mayor, I'll protect the rights of every single New Yorker,
and that includes the more than three million immigrants who
call this city their home. But we can all stand
up to ICE if you know your rights if you
encounter ICE. These are the things that every New Yorker
should know.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
First.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
ICE cannot enter into private spaces like your home, school,
or private area of your workplace without a judicial warrant
signed by a judge that looks like this. If ICE
does not have a judicial warrant signed by a judge,
you have the right to say I do not consent
to enter it, and the right to keep your door closed.
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Sometimes ICE will show you paperwork that looks like this
and tell you that they have the right to arrest you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That is false.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
ICE is legally allowed to lie to you, but you
have the right to remain silent. If you're being detained,
you may always ask am I free to go repeatedly
until they answer. You are legally allowed to film ICE
as long as you do not interfere with an arrest.
It is important to remain calm during any interaction with
ICE or law enforcement. Do not impede their investigations, Resist, arrest,
or run. One last thing, New Yorkers have a constitutional
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right to protest, and when I'm mayor, we will protect
that right. New York will always welcome immigrants, and I
will fight each and every day to protect, support, and
celebrate our immigrant brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Your disdain or my disdain for that man aside. That
man is about to be the mayor of the biggest city,
the most important city in the United States of America.
This isn't some communist professor from Berkeley. How do we
handle this? We had this lady, she's a state rep
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from Maine. Keep in mind the foreigners were bringing in this.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
This part may be even worse than the other part.
We just talk. It's not as.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
If all of them are saying, I love America, I'm
want to be an American.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I want to chase the American dream. I want freedom.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I've I've learned all about the country, not when they're
leaving their dumps, not when they get here. And then
these foreigners will get here and they'll find a way
to get elected from whatever district they happen to be in.
And even once they've gotten here and gotten elected in
the United States of America, they will still do nothing
but crap on the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
This woman's from Somalia.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
So coming into the States, everything from the snow to
you know, the housing, the homes that we were all
of a sudden occupying, everything was a shock. Honestly, every
day was something new, and I'm like, oh my god,
this is just getting worse.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, So state did you guys learn? First of all, Kansas,
Kansas City have all places. Yeah, it's like a boot
camp for me basically all really because it's just like right,
like I mean, anyone who lives in May knows main
and has ever visited Kansas, they will know what I'm
talking about. It's just this is a lot interesting. That's
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a person of color. Honestly, you're a black person.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You ungrateful, which.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You're from Somalia and you're insulting Kansas. Did they strap
you down when you got to Kansas and perform female
genital mutilation on you? I would venture to guess the
answer is no. But they do it at a rate
of over ninety percent. And that god forsaken hell hole
you come from, you which, but these are the people
we bring here.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
We bring them here and we just allow them to
talk like this in public. And Democrats will bring them
here and then they'll elect them and then they'll fight
tooth and nail to make sure they stay here. And
then then they'll stand in front of the camera. This
is Jaya Powell, they will stand in front of the camera.
Don't just want to single her out. This is a
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common theme in the Democrat Party. They will look at
the American public in the eye, they'll say it to
the television set, and they'll tell you that you you're
not important in this country. This country was built by foreigners.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
The majority of Americans across the country, regardless of political party,
know that immigrants from all over the world, Somalia, India,
wherever they're from, Latin America, Africa, that immigrants have built
this country and make this country what it is today.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I know we said the same thing as I opened
up the show, but I just want you to take
a brief moment before we move on and think about
what she just said right there, and think about how
far we've moved the Overton window in this country that
any politician from any party would get up in front
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of the American people, in front of the citizens and
tell all of them to their faces, you.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Didn't build this.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It was the immigrants who built all this. How bonkers
are we in this country? And that, of course brings
us to the party that is supposed to oppose this stuff.
They're supposed to be anti communists in the Republican Party.
They're supposed to fight tooth and nail against these savages
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who are destroying us. And maybe you're saying, well, Jesse,
we have states like Maine. We're gonna have Susan Collins
from Maine. Jesse, she can't be some hardcore right winger
like us. She'd never get elected.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And you are correct.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I actually I don't think you've ever heard me insult
Susan Collins on this show. Susan Collins is what she is.
It's not the Susan Collins of the world who are
keeping the low TGP low T.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's blood.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
States who send the most disgusting units to Washington, DC,
who constantly ncap our efforts, constantly give aid and comfort
to the enemy.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And exhibit a for this.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I could point out my state Texas, I could point
out Oklahoma, I could point out the Dakotas, I could
go all the way through the South, because everybody, every
red state seems to be guilty of this. But honestly,
maybe the worst state in the United States of America
for sending unis to Washington, DC is the state of Utah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Utah is blood red.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Utah could elect somebody to the right of you, to
the right of me, if the low T GOP primary
voter would get off his butt and get involved and
vote in primaries. Instead, we get John Curtis.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
So listen, I've learned sadly I can't control anybody but me, right,
and the best thing I can do is set my example.
And I think all of us you do every morning
look in the mirror and say what are we doing?
What am I doing specifically today to make this country
a better country, to make all of our immigrants feel
more welcome, that's what we've always had.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We should all be deeply ashamed. Me too.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
In Texas we have John Cornyan deeply ashamed that we
are this apathetic that we send these dorks to Washington,
d C. It angers me to know it. All that
may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. We have,
in my opinion, the biggest case that ever that has
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ever come before the Supreme Court. This is the case
about birthright citizenship. Because these people, once they get dropped
off in our country, they start having eighty five kids,
they're all US citizens. They'll all vote Democrat their whole life.
They'll all hate the place, They'll all be on welfare,
and it has stop. We're gonna ask Bill Jacobson whether
that's gonna be overturned. Lord Willing before we talked to Bill,
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Speaker 2 (14:05):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I'm not saying Bill is going to agree with me,
and he definitely knows a lot more about this stuff
than I do. But in my opinion, the birthright citizen
citizenship question is the most important decision the Supreme Court
will ever make in its entire history.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It is that important.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
People do not understand just how much this system has
been abused. And I'm scared to death because I have
no idea how they're going to rule. Joining me now,
the Great Bill Jacobson Coronell Law University, professor and of course,
founder of Legal Insurrection. All Right, Bill, you can agree
or disagree, you can call me an idiot, but I
want to know how they're going to rule.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Yeah, I wish I'd like to know that too. I
think it'll be very interesting when we get the oral
arguments there. But I think people in the mainstream media
have not taken this case very seriously because they've been
accustomed to birthright citizenship all of their natural lives. But
it wasn't always that way, and so I think they're
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going to be very surprised that there are very serious,
legitimate arguments against it. I don't know how it's going
to turn out, but I think you are absolutely right.
This will be an earthquake changing the nation if they
strike down the common concept of birthright citizenship really in
many ways larger than the abortion decision. It may not
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receive the violent reaction that the abortion decision received, but
it is essentially building the wall, but not restricted to
the southern border. It will cut off the anchor baby problem,
it will cut off the birthright citizenship tourism problem. It
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will really change the nation, the way the nation looks
at who is an American citizen. No more will your
mere presence here illegally or temporarily be enough to become
a citizen. And that changes the whole equation on immigration
and migration and all of the problems that we have.
In many ways, it will be more effective than passing
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a more stringent immigration law because it removes the incentive
if you come here illegally or temporarily. There is no
citizenship at the end of the rainbow, and that's just
going to be enormous.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I hate to ask a question like this because it's
going to be open ended, and I'm just gonna have
to hand you the floor, But I really I can't
wrap my mind around it, and I want you to
explain it to me. Everyone knows what the fourteenth Amendment
was about. Everybody knows that unless you're a complete moron,
everyone knows this was about slaves, so at every right
to obviously become full citizens. And it's all documented. It's
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not I can read it. It's documented. That's what the
four teenth Amendment was about. How in the name of
God did we get to the place where it meant
you can jump across the border from Mexico and have
a kid in an emergency room and he's an American citizen,
and that this is even up for debate in the courts.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
How did we even get here?
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Well, I think it's like a lot of things that's
a narrative gets set. A narrative gets set in the media,
narrative gets set politically. It obviously has been in the
great interest of the Democrat Party to have this current arrangement.
So it's, you know, like the boiling frog. It happens slowly,
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and then you wake up and you realize we have
people running across the border. We have people coming to
California from Asia on express you know, tourism flights for
the purpose of giving birth only to then return home
with your US citizen child. We have all of these
things that have grown up as a cultural issue. So
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much go wrong in our society. It happened slowly. It
wasn't one thing, but one thing can change it. If
the Supreme Court rules that birthright citizenship under the fourteenth
Amendment does not refer to people in the country illegally
or temporarily, that puts an end to it. In many ways,
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it doesn't put an end to the cultural fight, and
the political fight, but it puts an end to the
legal fight, and that the Supreme Court has never ruled
on this. You frequently hear well, it's you know, been
undisputed law for many decades, and then they'll cite a
Supreme Court case from the eighteen hundreds which involved not
somebody you know, temporarily in the country. It was a
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permanent resident of the country. And so it just developed
that way, and there's no real explanation for it other
than a political and cultural narrative was set and nobody
wanted a bucket because you know the names you get
called if you are against that, and so that's really
how it developed. But this could be absolutely massive. I
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don't know which way it's going to turn out, but
if they do rule that birthright citizenship under the fourteenth
Amendment was never intended to apply to people who are
here illegally or temporarily, that is just huge.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Bill Let's shift gears. Although it's along the same lines,
the Trump administration keeps firing immigration judges, and for those
who kind of don't know the background of it, we
don't have enough immigration judges. It's just not enough time
to get all these people processed through so it would
seem counterintuitive to fire these judges. Of Supreme Court's gonna
have to step in. What's happening with all.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
This, Well, you know, the immigration system. People don't realize.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
It's like a.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Entire judicial system that we never really hear a lot about.
And I think the feeling in the Trumpet administration is
that a lot of the immigration judges, particularly ones appointed
under Democrat presidents, are slow walking things, are not ruling
the way Trump administration thinks they should be ruled, and
that the answer is to replace them, And so that's
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really what's going on. I don't think that on that
issue the Supreme Court's going to get involved. There are
other issues about replacing heads of agencies, and there was
an argument today regarding the Federal Trade Commission Lee head,
who was removed. But I don't think the immigration judicial
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system is going to get to the Supreme Court. Although
the Trump administration attempt to gain control of so called
independent agencies like the Federal Trade Commission, I think is
very much what's happening. The issue before the Supreme Court
on immigration judges is a slightly different issue whether the
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restrictions put on them are subject to suit in federal
court as opposed to administrative claims. So there's a lot
of different issues floating around and a lot of people
are getting confused over them. But the replacement of immigration
judges is not before the Supreme Court. The replacement of
agency heads is before the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
How do we feel like they're leaning on that after
all that testimony today? Again, it's not one of those things.
It's just sponkers when you think about it, that it's
even up for debate whether or not the president can
decide who's the head of someone in his executive branch.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But how do you think they're going to roll on this?
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Well, I think I listened to almost the entire argument,
not one hundred percent of it, but ninety five percent
of it, So I think I have a good feel
for it. And the prevailing wisdom in the mainstream media
is one of doom and gloom from their perspective, which
is people think that the Justices are going to side
with Trump on this that to the extent you have
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an agency and there's really no such thing as an
independent agency, but an agency which has some level of independence,
like the Federal Trade Commission, that the President still gets
to decide who runs the agency because they are performing
executive branch duties. They are performing duties that need to
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have accountability through the presidency because otherwise you have these
agencies which are not subject to any political process. Now
some people like that. Our favorite justice and I say
that somewhat jokingly, Kitanji Brown Jackson was arguing policy today, Well,
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you know, don't we need experts in these agencies? You know,
how are they going to have their expertise if it's
up to the whim of the president. Well, you know what,
because it's an executive agency, it's a part of the
executive branch and to president, and we elect a president
knowing what they're going to do on these sort of issues.
So there's yeah, it's really baffling how you get to
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a situation where you have an executive branch agency which
is not subject to the executive to the Chief executive,
to the President of the United States. And that's I
think they're going to lose on that. I think Trump's
going to win on that. That's the prevailing takedown from
today's oral argument.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Finally, the redistricting maps, of course, Texas is in the
news for this California's in the news for this, Indiana's
in the news for this, and the Supreme Court is
stepping in. What's happening.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yeah, Well, the Supreme Court issued a stay, so it's
not a permanent decision on the merits, although it's pretty
clear how the majority of justices view it, because when
you get a stay, one of the factors is likelihood
of succeeding on the merits, and they found that the
government was likely to seed on the merits, that the
Texas Map was fine because it was drawn for partisan purposes,
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which is okay, not for racial purposes, which is not okay.
And so that is an issue that I think Trump's
prevailed at least through the twenty twenty sixth election, and
I believe will prevail ultimately. It's probably the reason, although
it's a little different because in California it was a referendum,
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But I think the Supreme Court's attitude on this redistricting
is going to be, you guys, fight it out. It's
a political issue. But as long as you're not doing
it based on race, and you're doing it just because
you want more Republicans or in California, more Democrats, we're
not going to get involved and so that's what it's about.
It will be interesting to see how it shakes out
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because Texas is pretty much offset by California, but there
were several other red states. So net net Republicans are
going to come out ahead on this whole redistricting fight.
And I don't see Thisme Court getting involved.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thank you brother, as always, I appreciate it. Let's talk
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Speaker 2 (26:13):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
All right, let's talk for a moment. Because it's a
Christmas season, I thought it would be helpful to have
a conversation. It's going to sound really mean. All right,
it's going to sound mean, and I look, sometimes I.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Can be mean. I know that, I understand I'm a jerk.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But this is actually not supposed to be mean sounding,
and I'm not supposed to bring you down. This is
supposed to help get you through the Christmas season we're
going into. Okay, So because it's the Christmas season, inevitably
you are going to find yourself at a gathering with
a Democrat. Maybe this is that the Christmas party your
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office is holding. They'll probably call it a holiday party
because this country has lost its mind. But the Christmas
party they're having at your office that nobody wants to
go to, it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
A Democrat there.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Maybe I hope not, but you never know. Maybe you're
gathering with family and there's going to be a Democrat there.
Maybe it's your liberal and peggy mother in law brother,
whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, so I got that, you got that. I got that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We're in the season of having to spend time with Democrats.
So let me explain something that I think will probably
help help save you some frustration. That person is mentally ill.
And I know how that sounds like I'm just being
a jerk and throwing bombs at I'm not saying that
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at all.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm really genuinely not.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
There's a for example, there's a story out in the
Washington Post Rosie O'Donnell.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You know, she used to be kind of this funny actress.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Then she just kind of lost her mind with Trump
derangements syndrome. Well, she goes to see a therapist, surprise, surprise,
and her therapist told her, you need to stop. You
need to stop talking about Trump. It's messing up your mind.
You need to stop. Take two days off. And Rosie
O'Donnell admitted she couldn't last two hours before she went
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back to talking about Trump two hours now. Why, Well,
is it because she's dumb? That's a big part of it.
Is it because she's on anti anxiety medication? Almost undoubtedly,
right this, all this stuff applies to the Democrat in
your life. But it's more than just that. So we
have a really dumb person. It sit they're popping anti
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anxiety pills. And then it's the propaganda they consume every
day that you ignore or if you see it, you
roll your eyes at it. They don't. That's the point
I'm trying to get through. How could you be that deranged?
Why is your liberal aunt Peggy gonna grow up, gonna
blow up Christmas Eve screaming about Trump and bragging about abortion?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But what's wrong with her? What dor eyes look like that?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Because she sits down all day every day and she
watches stuff like this.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
I mean, look, the president of the United States and
his Secretary of Defense are conducting murder on the high seas.
They're committing murder, and Americans should care like Look, none
of us like drug traffickers, but we have laws that
say that drug traffickers don't get summarily executed. And if
it's happening off the coast of America with people that
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we don't know, just give it time before Donald Trump
starts doing this same kind of thing. The people we
do know right here at home. It matters if the
president of the United States breaks the law.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That's bonkers.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I know, I know everything you're screaming right now, I'm
screaming the same thing.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I know. You roll your eyes.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
That's ridiculous that I saw another Democrat went on the
news and said I think it might have been angus
and said, how long before he starts executing drug dealers
on the streets of San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Ridiculous?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, a blatant lie. Yeah, all that stuff is true.
Your liberal aunt Peggy believes it. She's an insane person.
Now that means you should adjust how you deal with
the insane person. If you think you're dealing with another
logical human being and you're going to be able to
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walk through these issues and kind of logically talk it out,
you're going to be so frustrated and angry and you're
gonna get in arguments if you just accept that she's
mentally ill. When you look at that liberal aunt Peggy
at your company party, I want you to picture that
that person just escaped from an insane asylum. Now would
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you engage with that person in conversation or do you
just kind of keep your distance. It's trying to save
Christmas for you? All right, see if Sean Spice is
gonna save Christmas for us. Before we get to Sean,
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Speaker 2 (31:20):
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Speaker 2 (32:09):
We'll be back, Senator.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
Have you seen the video.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
I have seen the video and it is deeply disturbing.
I am mostly concerned with the fact that we are
putting our American servicemen and women in jeopardy here. We're
putting them in jeopardy in case they ever get shot down.
We're putting them in legal jeopardy. They could be brought
up in international criminal courts. And so what we're doing
here is taking those professionals, or utmost professionals and putting
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them into harm's way. And that's what bothers me the
most about what Pete heck Saith is doing. He is
the least qualified security defense in our nation's history, and
he's very cavalier about doing things. The fact of the
matter is only Congress can decide that we can go
to war, and there was no such declaration made.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
I just want to make sure that I get this accurate.
You have seen the classified video of this particular strike,
the first strike and then the double tap as it's known.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
No, I've just seen what's been available in the media.
I've read the food report, but I've not seen the
actual video.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well no, well not that one.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Joining me now, my friend Sean Speiser of the wonderful
Sean Speiser Show.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
People who are observant can't help, but notice they all
say the same talking points. CNN says the same thing
as Senator Idiot, who says the same thing as Senator
jerk Water, who says the same thing as New York
Times who says the same thing as this. Is there
an email that goes out, Sean tell us how the
propaganda works?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know all this stuff?
Speaker 13 (33:53):
Oh, you're asking someone on the wrong side. I don't
get the emails. I don't think I asked the same
questions you do. I have Kim park Tory on my
show tonight.
Speaker 14 (34:01):
Who is a Navy jag and as on the civilian side,
served both Secretary of heggst the and President Trump in
criminal cases, and I asked him of very simil, I'm like,
how do these guys get the talking point? Because it
all went from like a war crime to breaking the
law now it's I mean, they they literally all use
the same one.
Speaker 13 (34:21):
The kicker though.
Speaker 14 (34:22):
Jesse and I was like, I don't know if Dana
Bash at CNN there was trying to throw Senator Duckworth
like a lifeline. But she's like, wink, not you. You
definitely saw that video because it's classified and you wouldn't
have seen it. So I'm just gonna make sure I
help you. It's not just the talking points, it's the assists,
like who gets that? Who gets the like, Hey, I'm
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going to This is like the old you know thing
with regis, do you want to phone a friend? Because
I don't think that you actually saw the video that
you just lied about seeing that, you know, make it
up that talking The whole thing is hysterical.
Speaker 13 (34:54):
As far as I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Concerned, Sean, this is clearly an op being run against
Pete hagg says. You know, at best, they get to
take out Pete hagg Seth. At worst, they caused some
division inside the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
People get annoyed. I haven't answer.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Questions about it, but there's a lot of different parts
of the Trump administration that communists. Hey, why Pete hagg Seth?
What makes him a target right now? They think he's
what easy to take out? Is he uniquely threatening this one?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
What is it?
Speaker 14 (35:23):
So I'm going to tell you something that I have
found over the last ten years. One of the things
that people misunderstand about Trump and these people who serve
Trump is that they like to use a word that
they say they're very loyal, and it's not that they're loyal.
Speaker 13 (35:36):
A dog is loyal, Jesse.
Speaker 14 (35:38):
I mean, like you can sit under a desk and
just you know, be present all day, and that's loyalty.
What these folks are disruptors. And what I think that
they particularly hate about Pete Hegseth is considering the size
of the budget and the amount of policy that he controls.
Pete Hegseth wasn't a goal along, get along kind of guy.
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He got rid of the DEI woke mentality. He's firing
people all throughout the Department of War that don't adhere
to the you know, liberal woke agenda. So he's disrupting
the apple cart. And what their view is is that
then you need to be taken out right. It's not
that he just supports Trump, it's that he's actually getting
the job done. So then they go in and accuse
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him of war crimes. Look that you talk about running
an op. Let's go back for one second that Washington
Post story that kicked this whole thing off, saying that
hag Seth walked into a room and yelled, go kill
the guy right now. I don't know about you, but
I've been doing this long enough that the first thing
that went through my mind is that's not how it works.
There's no way that happened. Okay, And sure enough a
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week lady here, Now there's video. Now there's you know,
people within the the who have been in the room,
who say that never happened, and no one has held
accountable at the Washington Post or whatever that says that's
not you know, oops are bad, like we lied, we
spread misinformation. This truly is and Ah being run against
him because he's a disruptor.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The budget actually is probably the simplest explanation. You look
at a budget of the United States of America and
you see that military budget. How many people in DC
are driving around in BMW's and living in brownstones.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Because of the military budget that flows to them.
Speaker 14 (37:22):
Think about all these contractors, okay, who have had to
create training programs on DEI and wokeness and how to
you know better yourself through training your you know, getting
in touch with your inner racism, and all of these
massive contractors and just to your point, like they're making
lots and lots of money. And the second that he
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says no more, no moss, the gravy train stops. That's
a lot of money. That's a lot of shareholders that
get pissed off.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Sean, I want to ask you about the rumor mial. Obviously,
as we know, they lie about everything all the time.
As we just discussed, they'll lie about something. But the
rumors are that Trump is displeased with this person or
displeased with that person, and I have to assume most
of these things are lies. But I also know he's
Donald Trump, and any executive is going to.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Be displeased with certain things.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
After a year, do you think there's somebody in this
administration who actually is on the hot seat?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
And if so, why, I think it's possible.
Speaker 14 (38:29):
But look, to your point, there's two There's sort of
a continuum. There's people that Donald Trump really is upset with,
doesn't think they're doing their job, should be fired, and
then there are people on the other end of the
continuum who are trying to create that narrative so they'll
start spreading rumors. And I think there's one thing not
to be in the good graces of some staffers or
some you know in the administration, and then it's a
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big difference. I've always said, you know, at the end
of the day, for my tenure. All I cared about was,
you know, if the President was pleased with the job
that I was doing serving him and the American people.
Speaker 13 (39:01):
That's it.
Speaker 14 (39:02):
But you find and so far in this first time
to the Trump administration, we've seen a lot less of
it where you have a lot less of the palace intrigue.
Speaker 13 (39:10):
But to be honest with you, Jesse, you never know.
He is an inquisitive guy by nature.
Speaker 14 (39:15):
So I'll pick up the phone, I'll call him, and
he goes, Sean, how's Scott Bessett doing?
Speaker 13 (39:19):
What do you think of the job he's doing? How's
Howard Latinix?
Speaker 14 (39:22):
He asked people all the time, and for a lot
of people that are like, oh, well, that means.
Speaker 13 (39:26):
Something's got to be wrong in Trump's world.
Speaker 14 (39:28):
He's constantly evaluating his policies, how's this playing, what's going
on in the media, how's so and so doing?
Speaker 13 (39:34):
That's him.
Speaker 14 (39:34):
He's always been inquisitive like that, But there are people
that try to use that as an opportunity to put
make someone up or down.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Christinome, Yeah, how long does he think she's doing? And
I asked about this specifically, not necessarily because of the
story that came out recently, but because there have been
shakeups at ICE already, I know they've brought border patrol
guys who are more hawkish into leadership positions. If I
because Trump, to his credit, was displeased with the pace
of things, you get the feeling that Christy know may
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be feeling some heat.
Speaker 13 (40:11):
It's a great question.
Speaker 14 (40:12):
I mean, I read a lot of the same stories
that you do, I ask the same questions. I do
think that there is something there. And the reason I
say that is that one of the things that I've
realized in Trump world is that the narrative, when it's
out there for a while, either he will caush it
and say, are you kidding me?
Speaker 13 (40:28):
I love the job that Jesse's doing and I want
to keep he's.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
Doing fantastic, or it will fester and at some point
if he's not quashing it, that I do wonder. And
so this current narrative that's out there, I have not
seen anything from the White House to quash it, which
would normally be the case if there was nothing to it.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
All.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Right, let's shift gears and talk about democrats. Axios has
a piece out today on Josh Shapiro basically baby Pottering
is but for a twenty tree only eight run. Now
from the outside looking in, I'm not a Democrat, neither
are you. I say Shapiro doesn't have a chance because
he's a Jew. I mean, he's popular governor in Pennsylvania,
but the way the Democrat Party's gone, that's pretty much
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a disqualifier at this point, right or am I own?
Speaker 14 (41:17):
No? It's funny for you know, Michelle Obama was out
over the weekend saying we're not ready to elect a woman,
and then you have this Josh Shapiro issue where they're
not ready to elect someone who's Jewish. They're the ones
who have problems with all of these, you know, gender
and someone's religion. But currently, if you look at what's
going on in the Democratic Party, the sort of pro
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Hamas wing of the Democratic Party is going to be
very active in a primer, and a guy like Shapiro
would have a very very challenging time. I think there's
a lot of reasons why he doesn't get through a
Democratic primary, but that's definitely a high on the list.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Sean midterms, I think it's fairly conventional wisdom that the
party in power loses seats in the mid terms. You
and I've talked about this a million times. It just happens.
Happens as Democrats happens to us. I'm assuming we're gonna
lose some seats. Now there's losing seats and then there's
a bloodbath and you're wiped out and Donald Trump gets
impeached every other day.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
What do you think we're looking at?
Speaker 14 (42:15):
So here's what I would tell you. I was at
the NRCC. I ran a division called Incumbent Retention. In
the two thousand cycle. We're one of the only times
in American history we actually picked up seats with party
and power. The difference was the economy was strong, Our
members were prepared, they raised the appropriate number of money,
and we minimized retirements. There is a bit of a
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problem right now on our side in terms of how
many people are retiring. If the economy isn't in good
shape next July.
Speaker 13 (42:46):
I think we're gonna have a big problem.
Speaker 14 (42:48):
But Donald Trump's making in tons of investment, bringing companies here.
I got to believe that that money starts getting through
the pipeline by springtime next year, creating jobs, economic growth.
If the economy is in really good shape. Jesse they'll
pick seats up. If the economy is in the crapper,
we're screwed.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Okay, well, I guess fingers crossed on that. Sean, Thank you,
my brother. I appreciate it. Man, lighten the mood. Next,
it's time to lighten the mood. And as you are
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well aware, I have a favorite thing about politics. You know,
we talk about politics. We care about politics because it
does matter, it does matter. But we all have little
things we greatly enjoy. I'm a bad person. I'm a
sick person, and part of this sickness is I enjoy
watching my enemies suffer, especially when they're doing something terrible
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and suffering because of it. My favorite thing in politics
by a mile, by a mile, is Democrats pandering the
black people. It's so funny for a variety of reasons.
It's funny because of the ham fisted way they go
about it. It's so obvious, it's such obvious pandering. It's
funny because it's so obviously dishonest. It's Hillary Clinton carrying
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hot sauce and her purse. It's Pete buddhaj Edge drinking
of forty with a couple black guys trying to increase
his numbers in the black community.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
I'm not kidding. You can go look it up.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That actually happened. Joe Biden Razor fighting with corn pop.
Gavin Newsom recently talked about eating wonderbread and shooting hoops
while hustling when he was on an NBA podcast. It's
just so freaking funny. It makes me laugh to no end.
Jacob Fray is a tiny, little Jewish guy who's trying
to keep getting elected mayor of Minneapolis. Who in order
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to get mayor, to get to be mayor of Minneapolis,
you have to appeal to the Somali community. Now, Somalia
sucks for a variety of reasons, but maybe the worst
part about the country is the food. And that's when
they actually have some. Well, he sat down for some
some Molly cuisine, and honestly, this is exactly what I
used to look like when I was eating a plate
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of lima beans that my mother had sat in front
of me. I despise all vegetables, but lima beans. I
used to do this exact thing you're looking at on
the screen right now. I used to spread it around
on the plate.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I used to do.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
At one time, I was about to vomit. It was
just the worst thing in the world and I did
exactly that, and it makes me laugh. He hates that food,
he pretends to like it. He's a filthy liar and
he's suffering as he panders.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I love it, see them all
Immigration, and the low TGP, the Supreme Court, Sean Spicer.
I don't even know how we're gonna fit it all
in tonight. I'm right, all right, So this is gonna
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be an immigration talk. It's gonna be about the low TGP,
it's gonna be about all these things. But before I
get into specifically immigration, I just want to say, there's
talk on the right, and there has been for a
long time and on the left about how we're gonna
be in a civil war one day, God forbid. Right,
there's nothing worse. Don't ever root for that, by the way,
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nothing worse than a civil war. Read a history book.
It's always awful. But there's always talk about it. Hey,
I could see we're gonna be in a civil war.
Where a civil war is coming. We need a civil war.
We hear people talk like that, And again I just
want to emphasize, don't ever root for that.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But in some ways maybe we already are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And a great, great, great thing I can use to
point that out is the current arguments over illegal immigrants
and illegal immigration. We shift the Overton window in our
society to such a point where we don't even realize
how insane it is. That we're having an argument about something.
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Entering a country illegally is bad. If you have entered
the country illegally or your visa expires and then you
become illegal, you should be deported from the country. Now,
I want you to think about what I just said.
Is that partisan. You could take just those two or
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three sentences, however many it were, and take those sentences
back to any country throughout history and say that to
them before there was ever a Republican party, before it
was a Democratic party, or before there was America, before anything,
don't come in illegally. If you find someone here illegally,
deport them. In every country, if the history of the
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world would say, well, yeah, obviously, that's the whole point
of a border. That's the whole point of having an
illegal immigration system of some kind, because that's an obvious point.
You don't want people to call me legally. If you
find them, you should deport them again. Not even partisan,
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shouldn't be anyway. It's a basic truth.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But wrap your mind around this.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I can't believe where we are we have two major
political parties in the United States of America. We'll get
to the useless gup in a moment, but one of
the two major political parties in the country is admitted
to bringing in as many foreigners as they possibly can.
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So committed they'll send United States planes to foreign lands
and fill the planes up with foreigners and.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Fly them into the country.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
They then will take your money and hand it out
to NGOs, hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, billions
of dollars hand it out to NGOs to ensure these
foreigners are spread all throughout the United States of America.
They used your money to create an app, an app
so foreigners could schedule their invasion into the country. That
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was four years hundred, Joe Biden. Now now we have
fens of millions of them here, and that brings me
to the second part of the basic foreign policy, illegal
immigration policy. I guess I should say discussion we're having now.
We have to get them out. But every single area
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in this country that is controlled by Democrats has dedicated
themselves to keeping them all here.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Before I even.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Play Zooran Mandani and the rest of them, just pause
for a moment and think about that, we're already in
some kind of a civil war.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I hope it stops here. I hope they back off.
I hope we can save the country. But we're not
a unified country of fifty states anymore. We're not fifty
United States anymore. There are hostile communist city states inside
the borders of our country who have declared in every
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way war on this country. And I don't know how
we get out of this. What's the incoming mayor of
our biggest, most important city.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
As mayor, I'll protect the rights of every single New Yorker,
and that includes the more than three million immigrants who
call this city their home. But we can all stand
up to ICE if you know your rights if you
encounter ICE. These are the things that every New Yorker
should know.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
First.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
ICE cannot enter into private spaces like your home, school,
or private area of your workplace without a judicial warrant
signed by a judge that looks like this. If ICE
does not have a judicial warrant signed by a judge,
you have the right to say I do not consent
to enter it, and the right to keep your door closed.
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Sometimes ICE will show you paperwork that looks like this
and tell you that they have the right to arrest you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That is false.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
ICE is legally allowed to lie to you, but you
have the right to remain silent. If you're being detained,
you may always ask am I free to go repeatedly
until they answer. You are legally allowed to film ICE
as long as you do not interfere with an arrest.
It is important to remain calm during any interaction with
ICE or law enforcement. Do not impede their investigations, Resist, arrest,
or run. One last thing, New Yorkers have a constitutional
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right to protest, and when I'm mayor, we will protect
that right. New York will always welcome immigrants, and I
will fight each and every day to protect, support, and
celebrate our immigrant brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Your disdain or my disdain for that man aside. That
man is about to be the mayor of the biggest city,
the most important city in the United States of America.
This isn't some communist professor from Berkeley. How do we
handle this? We had this lady, she's a state rep
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from Maine. Keep in mind the foreigners were bringing in this.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
This part may be even worse than the other part.
We just talk. It's not as.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
If all of them are saying, I love America, I'm
want to be an American.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I want to chase the American dream. I want freedom.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I've I've learned all about the country, not when they're
leaving their dumps, not when they get here. And then
these foreigners will get here and they'll find a way
to get elected from whatever district they happen to be in.
And even once they've gotten here and gotten elected in
the United States of America, they will still do nothing
but crap on the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
This woman's from Somalia.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
So coming into the States, everything from the snow to
you know, the housing, the homes that we were all
of a sudden occupying, everything was a shock. Honestly, every
day was something new, and I'm like, oh my god,
this is just getting worse.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, So state did you guys learn? First of all, Kansas,
Kansas City have all places. Yeah, it's like a boot
camp for me basically all really because it's just like right,
like I mean, anyone who lives in May knows main
and has ever visited Kansas, they will know what I'm
talking about. It's just this is a lot interesting. That's
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a person of color. Honestly, you're a black person.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You ungrateful, which.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You're from Somalia and you're insulting Kansas. Did they strap
you down when you got to Kansas and perform female
genital mutilation on you? I would venture to guess the
answer is no. But they do it at a rate
of over ninety percent. And that god forsaken hell hole
you come from, you which, but these are the people
we bring here.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
We bring them here and we just allow them to
talk like this in public. And Democrats will bring them
here and then they'll elect them and then they'll fight
tooth and nail to make sure they stay here. And
then then they'll stand in front of the camera. This
is Jaya Powell, they will stand in front of the camera.
Don't just want to single her out. This is a
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common theme in the Democrat Party. They will look at
the American public in the eye, they'll say it to
the television set, and they'll tell you that you you're
not important in this country. This country was built by foreigners.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
The majority of Americans across the country, regardless of political party,
know that immigrants from all over the world, Somalia, India,
wherever they're from, Latin America, Africa, that immigrants have built
this country and make this country what it is today.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I know we said the same thing as I opened
up the show, but I just want you to take
a brief moment before we move on and think about
what she just said right there, and think about how
far we've moved the Overton window in this country that
any politician from any party would get up in front
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of the American people, in front of the citizens and
tell all of them to their faces, you.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Didn't build this.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It was the immigrants who built all this. How bonkers
are we in this country? And that, of course brings
us to the party that is supposed to oppose this stuff.
They're supposed to be anti communists in the Republican Party.
They're supposed to fight tooth and nail against these savages
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who are destroying us. And maybe you're saying, well, Jesse,
we have states like Maine. We're gonna have Susan Collins
from Maine. Jesse, she can't be some hardcore right winger
like us. She'd never get elected.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And you are correct.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I actually I don't think you've ever heard me insult
Susan Collins on this show. Susan Collins is what she is.
It's not the Susan Collins of the world who are
keeping the low TGP low T.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's blood.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
States who send the most disgusting units to Washington, DC,
who constantly ncap our efforts, constantly give aid and comfort
to the enemy.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And exhibit a for this.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I could point out my state Texas, I could point
out Oklahoma, I could point out the Dakotas, I could
go all the way through the South, because everybody, every
red state seems to be guilty of this. But honestly,
maybe the worst state in the United States of America
for sending unis to Washington, DC is the state of Utah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Utah is blood red.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Utah could elect somebody to the right of you, to
the right of me, if the low T GOP primary
voter would get off his butt and get involved and
vote in primaries. Instead, we get John Curtis.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
So listen, I've learned sadly I can't control anybody but me, right,
and the best thing I can do is set my example.
And I think all of us you do every morning
look in the mirror and say what are we doing?
What am I doing specifically today to make this country
a better country, to make all of our immigrants feel
more welcome, that's what we've always had.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We should all be deeply ashamed. Me too.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
In Texas we have John Cornyan deeply ashamed that we
are this apathetic that we send these dorks to Washington,
d C. It angers me to know it. All that
may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. We have,
in my opinion, the biggest case that ever that has
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ever come before the Supreme Court. This is the case
about birthright citizenship. Because these people, once they get dropped
off in our country, they start having eighty five kids,
they're all US citizens. They'll all vote Democrat their whole life.
They'll all hate the place, They'll all be on welfare,
and it has stop. We're gonna ask Bill Jacobson whether
that's gonna be overturned. Lord Willing before we talked to Bill,
(13:07):
I need some chips to make me feel better. I
love chips. Saturday night, watch the football game with the fam.
I do the same thing that you do when you
watch sporting events. I get a snack. I'm a snacker
and that's always been chips. Let me get some Cheetos,
Let's get some Doritos. That stuff's terrible for you when
you get older. It starts to show up in your
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blood work too.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So what do you do?
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I don't have to give up chips. I found a
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Speaker 2 (14:05):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I'm not saying Bill is going to agree with me,
and he definitely knows a lot more about this stuff
than I do. But in my opinion, the birthright citizen
citizenship question is the most important decision the Supreme Court
will ever make in its entire history.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It is that important.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
People do not understand just how much this system has
been abused. And I'm scared to death because I have
no idea how they're going to rule. Joining me now,
the Great Bill Jacobson Coronell Law University, professor and of course,
founder of Legal Insurrection. All Right, Bill, you can agree
or disagree, you can call me an idiot, but I
want to know how they're going to rule.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Yeah, I wish I'd like to know that too. I
think it'll be very interesting when we get the oral
arguments there. But I think people in the mainstream media
have not taken this case very seriously because they've been
accustomed to birthright citizenship all of their natural lives. But
it wasn't always that way, and so I think they're
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going to be very surprised that there are very serious,
legitimate arguments against it. I don't know how it's going
to turn out, but I think you are absolutely right.
This will be an earthquake changing the nation if they
strike down the common concept of birthright citizenship really in
many ways larger than the abortion decision. It may not
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receive the violent reaction that the abortion decision received, but
it is essentially building the wall, but not restricted to
the southern border. It will cut off the anchor baby problem,
it will cut off the birthright citizenship tourism problem. It
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will really change the nation, the way the nation looks
at who is an American citizen. No more will your
mere presence here illegally or temporarily be enough to become
a citizen. And that changes the whole equation on immigration
and migration and all of the problems that we have.
In many ways, it will be more effective than passing
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a more stringent immigration law because it removes the incentive
if you come here illegally or temporarily. There is no
citizenship at the end of the rainbow, and that's just
going to be enormous.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I hate to ask a question like this because it's
going to be open ended, and I'm just gonna have
to hand you the floor, But I really I can't
wrap my mind around it, and I want you to
explain it to me. Everyone knows what the fourteenth Amendment
was about. Everybody knows that unless you're a complete moron,
everyone knows this was about slaves, so at every right
to obviously become full citizens. And it's all documented. It's
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not I can read it. It's documented. That's what the
four teenth Amendment was about. How in the name of
God did we get to the place where it meant
you can jump across the border from Mexico and have
a kid in an emergency room and he's an American citizen,
and that this is even up for debate in the courts.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
How did we even get here?
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Well, I think it's like a lot of things that's
a narrative gets set. A narrative gets set in the media,
narrative gets set politically. It obviously has been in the
great interest of the Democrat Party to have this current arrangement.
So it's, you know, like the boiling frog. It happens slowly,
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and then you wake up and you realize we have
people running across the border. We have people coming to
California from Asia on express you know, tourism flights for
the purpose of giving birth only to then return home
with your US citizen child. We have all of these
things that have grown up as a cultural issue. So
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much go wrong in our society. It happened slowly. It
wasn't one thing, but one thing can change it. If
the Supreme Court rules that birthright citizenship under the fourteenth
Amendment does not refer to people in the country illegally
or temporarily, that puts an end to it. In many ways,
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it doesn't put an end to the cultural fight, and
the political fight, but it puts an end to the
legal fight, and that the Supreme Court has never ruled
on this. You frequently hear well, it's you know, been
undisputed law for many decades, and then they'll cite a
Supreme Court case from the eighteen hundreds which involved not
somebody you know, temporarily in the country. It was a
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permanent resident of the country. And so it just developed
that way, and there's no real explanation for it other
than a political and cultural narrative was set and nobody
wanted a bucket because you know the names you get
called if you are against that, and so that's really
how it developed. But this could be absolutely massive. I
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don't know which way it's going to turn out, but
if they do rule that birthright citizenship under the fourteenth
Amendment was never intended to apply to people who are
here illegally or temporarily, that is just huge.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Bill Let's shift gears. Although it's along the same lines,
the Trump administration keeps firing immigration judges, and for those
who kind of don't know the background of it, we
don't have enough immigration judges. It's just not enough time
to get all these people processed through so it would
seem counterintuitive to fire these judges. Of Supreme Court's gonna
have to step in. What's happening with all.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
This, Well, you know, the immigration system. People don't realize.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
It's like a.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Entire judicial system that we never really hear a lot about.
And I think the feeling in the Trumpet administration is
that a lot of the immigration judges, particularly ones appointed
under Democrat presidents, are slow walking things, are not ruling
the way Trump administration thinks they should be ruled, and
that the answer is to replace them, And so that's
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really what's going on. I don't think that on that
issue the Supreme Court's going to get involved. There are
other issues about replacing heads of agencies, and there was
an argument today regarding the Federal Trade Commission Lee head,
who was removed. But I don't think the immigration judicial
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system is going to get to the Supreme Court. Although
the Trump administration attempt to gain control of so called
independent agencies like the Federal Trade Commission, I think is
very much what's happening. The issue before the Supreme Court
on immigration judges is a slightly different issue whether the
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restrictions put on them are subject to suit in federal
court as opposed to administrative claims. So there's a lot
of different issues floating around and a lot of people
are getting confused over them. But the replacement of immigration
judges is not before the Supreme Court. The replacement of
agency heads is before the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
How do we feel like they're leaning on that after
all that testimony today? Again, it's not one of those things.
It's just sponkers when you think about it, that it's
even up for debate whether or not the president can
decide who's the head of someone in his executive branch.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But how do you think they're going to roll on this?
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Well, I think I listened to almost the entire argument,
not one hundred percent of it, but ninety five percent
of it, So I think I have a good feel
for it. And the prevailing wisdom in the mainstream media
is one of doom and gloom from their perspective, which
is people think that the Justices are going to side
with Trump on this that to the extent you have
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an agency and there's really no such thing as an
independent agency, but an agency which has some level of independence,
like the Federal Trade Commission, that the President still gets
to decide who runs the agency because they are performing
executive branch duties. They are performing duties that need to
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have accountability through the presidency because otherwise you have these
agencies which are not subject to any political process. Now
some people like that. Our favorite justice and I say
that somewhat jokingly, Kitanji Brown Jackson was arguing policy today, Well,
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you know, don't we need experts in these agencies? You know,
how are they going to have their expertise if it's
up to the whim of the president. Well, you know what,
because it's an executive agency, it's a part of the
executive branch and to president, and we elect a president
knowing what they're going to do on these sort of issues.
So there's yeah, it's really baffling how you get to
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a situation where you have an executive branch agency which
is not subject to the executive to the Chief executive,
to the President of the United States. And that's I
think they're going to lose on that. I think Trump's
going to win on that. That's the prevailing takedown from
today's oral argument.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Finally, the redistricting maps, of course, Texas is in the
news for this California's in the news for this, Indiana's
in the news for this, and the Supreme Court is
stepping in. What's happening.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yeah, Well, the Supreme Court issued a stay, so it's
not a permanent decision on the merits, although it's pretty
clear how the majority of justices view it, because when
you get a stay, one of the factors is likelihood
of succeeding on the merits, and they found that the
government was likely to seed on the merits, that the
Texas Map was fine because it was drawn for partisan purposes,
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which is okay, not for racial purposes, which is not okay.
And so that is an issue that I think Trump's
prevailed at least through the twenty twenty sixth election, and
I believe will prevail ultimately. It's probably the reason, although
it's a little different because in California it was a referendum,
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But I think the Supreme Court's attitude on this redistricting
is going to be, you guys, fight it out. It's
a political issue. But as long as you're not doing
it based on race, and you're doing it just because
you want more Republicans or in California, more Democrats, we're
not going to get involved and so that's what it's about.
It will be interesting to see how it shakes out
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because Texas is pretty much offset by California, but there
were several other red states. So net net Republicans are
going to come out ahead on this whole redistricting fight.
And I don't see Thisme Court getting involved.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thank you brother, as always, I appreciate it. Let's talk
about democrats a little bit more in a moment. Before
we do that, let me talk to you about your
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In fact, Horizon got themselves in hot water Horizons working
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with the FBI to hand over your phone records. AT
and T just got busted forcing people into training about
whiteness and things like that.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Are you funding these companies?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Are you? Are you funding communism? I'm not I switched
to pure talk, I used to. I've had Verizon, I've
had AT and T, I've had T Mobile. I'm not judging,
but why would you fund those companies? And when we
have pure talk now pure talk, I'm not asking you
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Speaker 2 (26:13):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
All right, let's talk for a moment. Because it's a
Christmas season, I thought it would be helpful to have
a conversation. It's going to sound really mean. All right,
it's going to sound mean, and I look, sometimes I.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Can be mean. I know that, I understand I'm a jerk.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But this is actually not supposed to be mean sounding,
and I'm not supposed to bring you down. This is
supposed to help get you through the Christmas season we're
going into. Okay, So because it's the Christmas season, inevitably
you are going to find yourself at a gathering with
a Democrat. Maybe this is that the Christmas party your
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office is holding. They'll probably call it a holiday party
because this country has lost its mind. But the Christmas
party they're having at your office that nobody wants to
go to, it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
A Democrat there.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Maybe I hope not, but you never know. Maybe you're
gathering with family and there's going to be a Democrat there.
Maybe it's your liberal and peggy mother in law brother,
whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, so I got that, you got that. I got that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We're in the season of having to spend time with Democrats.
So let me explain something that I think will probably
help help save you some frustration. That person is mentally ill.
And I know how that sounds like I'm just being
a jerk and throwing bombs at I'm not saying that
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at all.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm really genuinely not.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
There's a for example, there's a story out in the
Washington Post Rosie O'Donnell.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You know, she used to be kind of this funny actress.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Then she just kind of lost her mind with Trump
derangements syndrome. Well, she goes to see a therapist, surprise, surprise,
and her therapist told her, you need to stop. You
need to stop talking about Trump. It's messing up your mind.
You need to stop. Take two days off. And Rosie
O'Donnell admitted she couldn't last two hours before she went
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back to talking about Trump two hours now. Why, Well,
is it because she's dumb? That's a big part of it.
Is it because she's on anti anxiety medication? Almost undoubtedly,
right this, all this stuff applies to the Democrat in
your life. But it's more than just that. So we
have a really dumb person. It sit they're popping anti
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anxiety pills. And then it's the propaganda they consume every
day that you ignore or if you see it, you
roll your eyes at it. They don't. That's the point
I'm trying to get through. How could you be that deranged?
Why is your liberal aunt Peggy gonna grow up, gonna
blow up Christmas Eve screaming about Trump and bragging about abortion?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But what's wrong with her? What dor eyes look like that?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Because she sits down all day every day and she
watches stuff like this.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
I mean, look, the president of the United States and
his Secretary of Defense are conducting murder on the high seas.
They're committing murder, and Americans should care like Look, none
of us like drug traffickers, but we have laws that
say that drug traffickers don't get summarily executed. And if
it's happening off the coast of America with people that
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we don't know, just give it time before Donald Trump
starts doing this same kind of thing. The people we
do know right here at home. It matters if the
president of the United States breaks the law.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That's bonkers.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I know, I know everything you're screaming right now, I'm
screaming the same thing.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I know. You roll your eyes.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
That's ridiculous that I saw another Democrat went on the
news and said I think it might have been angus
and said, how long before he starts executing drug dealers
on the streets of San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Ridiculous?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, a blatant lie. Yeah, all that stuff is true.
Your liberal aunt Peggy believes it. She's an insane person.
Now that means you should adjust how you deal with
the insane person. If you think you're dealing with another
logical human being and you're going to be able to
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walk through these issues and kind of logically talk it out,
you're going to be so frustrated and angry and you're
gonna get in arguments if you just accept that she's
mentally ill. When you look at that liberal aunt Peggy
at your company party, I want you to picture that
that person just escaped from an insane asylum. Now would
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you engage with that person in conversation or do you
just kind of keep your distance. It's trying to save
Christmas for you? All right, see if Sean Spice is
gonna save Christmas for us. Before we get to Sean,
I want to talk about how you feel every day.
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Are you full of energy every day, full of pep
when you get home at night when it's time to
make dinner, hang with the kids.
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Speaker 2 (32:09):
We'll be back, Senator.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
Have you seen the video.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
I have seen the video and it is deeply disturbing.
I am mostly concerned with the fact that we are
putting our American servicemen and women in jeopardy here. We're
putting them in jeopardy in case they ever get shot down.
We're putting them in legal jeopardy. They could be brought
up in international criminal courts. And so what we're doing
here is taking those professionals, or utmost professionals and putting
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them into harm's way. And that's what bothers me the
most about what Pete heck Saith is doing. He is
the least qualified security defense in our nation's history, and
he's very cavalier about doing things. The fact of the
matter is only Congress can decide that we can go
to war, and there was no such declaration made.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
I just want to make sure that I get this accurate.
You have seen the classified video of this particular strike,
the first strike and then the double tap as it's known.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
No, I've just seen what's been available in the media.
I've read the food report, but I've not seen the
actual video.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well no, well not that one.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Joining me now, my friend Sean Speiser of the wonderful
Sean Speiser Show.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
People who are observant can't help, but notice they all
say the same talking points. CNN says the same thing
as Senator Idiot, who says the same thing as Senator
jerk Water, who says the same thing as New York
Times who says the same thing as this. Is there
an email that goes out, Sean tell us how the
propaganda works?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know all this stuff?
Speaker 13 (33:53):
Oh, you're asking someone on the wrong side. I don't
get the emails. I don't think I asked the same
questions you do. I have Kim park Tory on my
show tonight.
Speaker 14 (34:01):
Who is a Navy jag and as on the civilian side,
served both Secretary of heggst the and President Trump in
criminal cases, and I asked him of very simil, I'm like,
how do these guys get the talking point? Because it
all went from like a war crime to breaking the
law now it's I mean, they they literally all use
the same one.
Speaker 13 (34:21):
The kicker though.
Speaker 14 (34:22):
Jesse and I was like, I don't know if Dana
Bash at CNN there was trying to throw Senator Duckworth
like a lifeline. But she's like, wink, not you. You
definitely saw that video because it's classified and you wouldn't
have seen it. So I'm just gonna make sure I
help you. It's not just the talking points, it's the assists,
like who gets that? Who gets the like, Hey, I'm
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going to This is like the old you know thing
with regis, do you want to phone a friend? Because
I don't think that you actually saw the video that
you just lied about seeing that, you know, make it
up that talking The whole thing is hysterical.
Speaker 13 (34:54):
As far as I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Concerned, Sean, this is clearly an op being run against
Pete hagg says. You know, at best, they get to
take out Pete hagg Seth. At worst, they caused some
division inside the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
People get annoyed. I haven't answer.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Questions about it, but there's a lot of different parts
of the Trump administration that communists. Hey, why Pete hagg Seth?
What makes him a target right now? They think he's
what easy to take out? Is he uniquely threatening this one?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
What is it?
Speaker 14 (35:23):
So I'm going to tell you something that I have
found over the last ten years. One of the things
that people misunderstand about Trump and these people who serve
Trump is that they like to use a word that
they say they're very loyal, and it's not that they're loyal.
Speaker 13 (35:36):
A dog is loyal, Jesse.
Speaker 14 (35:38):
I mean, like you can sit under a desk and
just you know, be present all day, and that's loyalty.
What these folks are disruptors. And what I think that
they particularly hate about Pete Hegseth is considering the size
of the budget and the amount of policy that he controls.
Pete Hegseth wasn't a goal along, get along kind of guy.
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He got rid of the DEI woke mentality. He's firing
people all throughout the Department of War that don't adhere
to the you know, liberal woke agenda. So he's disrupting
the apple cart. And what their view is is that
then you need to be taken out right. It's not
that he just supports Trump, it's that he's actually getting
the job done. So then they go in and accuse
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him of war crimes. Look that you talk about running
an op. Let's go back for one second that Washington
Post story that kicked this whole thing off, saying that
hag Seth walked into a room and yelled, go kill
the guy right now. I don't know about you, but
I've been doing this long enough that the first thing
that went through my mind is that's not how it works.
There's no way that happened. Okay, And sure enough a
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week lady here, Now there's video. Now there's you know,
people within the the who have been in the room,
who say that never happened, and no one has held
accountable at the Washington Post or whatever that says that's
not you know, oops are bad, like we lied, we
spread misinformation. This truly is and Ah being run against
him because he's a disruptor.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The budget actually is probably the simplest explanation. You look
at a budget of the United States of America and
you see that military budget. How many people in DC
are driving around in BMW's and living in brownstones.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Because of the military budget that flows to them.
Speaker 14 (37:22):
Think about all these contractors, okay, who have had to
create training programs on DEI and wokeness and how to
you know better yourself through training your you know, getting
in touch with your inner racism, and all of these
massive contractors and just to your point, like they're making
lots and lots of money. And the second that he
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says no more, no moss, the gravy train stops. That's
a lot of money. That's a lot of shareholders that
get pissed off.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Sean, I want to ask you about the rumor mial. Obviously,
as we know, they lie about everything all the time.
As we just discussed, they'll lie about something. But the
rumors are that Trump is displeased with this person or
displeased with that person, and I have to assume most
of these things are lies. But I also know he's
Donald Trump, and any executive is going to.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Be displeased with certain things.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
After a year, do you think there's somebody in this
administration who actually is on the hot seat?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
And if so, why, I think it's possible.
Speaker 14 (38:29):
But look, to your point, there's two There's sort of
a continuum. There's people that Donald Trump really is upset with,
doesn't think they're doing their job, should be fired, and
then there are people on the other end of the
continuum who are trying to create that narrative so they'll
start spreading rumors. And I think there's one thing not
to be in the good graces of some staffers or
some you know in the administration, and then it's a
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big difference. I've always said, you know, at the end
of the day, for my tenure. All I cared about was,
you know, if the President was pleased with the job
that I was doing serving him and the American people.
Speaker 13 (39:01):
That's it.
Speaker 14 (39:02):
But you find and so far in this first time
to the Trump administration, we've seen a lot less of
it where you have a lot less of the palace intrigue.
Speaker 13 (39:10):
But to be honest with you, Jesse, you never know.
He is an inquisitive guy by nature.
Speaker 14 (39:15):
So I'll pick up the phone, I'll call him, and
he goes, Sean, how's Scott Bessett doing?
Speaker 13 (39:19):
What do you think of the job he's doing? How's
Howard Latinix?
Speaker 14 (39:22):
He asked people all the time, and for a lot
of people that are like, oh, well, that means.
Speaker 13 (39:26):
Something's got to be wrong in Trump's world.
Speaker 14 (39:28):
He's constantly evaluating his policies, how's this playing, what's going
on in the media, how's so and so doing?
Speaker 13 (39:34):
That's him.
Speaker 14 (39:34):
He's always been inquisitive like that, But there are people
that try to use that as an opportunity to put
make someone up or down.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Christinome, Yeah, how long does he think she's doing? And
I asked about this specifically, not necessarily because of the
story that came out recently, but because there have been
shakeups at ICE already, I know they've brought border patrol
guys who are more hawkish into leadership positions. If I
because Trump, to his credit, was displeased with the pace
of things, you get the feeling that Christy know may
(40:06):
be feeling some heat.
Speaker 13 (40:11):
It's a great question.
Speaker 14 (40:12):
I mean, I read a lot of the same stories
that you do, I ask the same questions. I do
think that there is something there. And the reason I
say that is that one of the things that I've
realized in Trump world is that the narrative, when it's
out there for a while, either he will caush it
and say, are you kidding me?
Speaker 13 (40:28):
I love the job that Jesse's doing and I want
to keep he's.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
Doing fantastic, or it will fester and at some point
if he's not quashing it, that I do wonder. And
so this current narrative that's out there, I have not
seen anything from the White House to quash it, which
would normally be the case if there was nothing to it.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
All.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Right, let's shift gears and talk about democrats. Axios has
a piece out today on Josh Shapiro basically baby Pottering
is but for a twenty tree only eight run. Now
from the outside looking in, I'm not a Democrat, neither
are you. I say Shapiro doesn't have a chance because
he's a Jew. I mean, he's popular governor in Pennsylvania,
but the way the Democrat Party's gone, that's pretty much
(41:13):
a disqualifier at this point, right or am I own?
Speaker 14 (41:17):
No? It's funny for you know, Michelle Obama was out
over the weekend saying we're not ready to elect a woman,
and then you have this Josh Shapiro issue where they're
not ready to elect someone who's Jewish. They're the ones
who have problems with all of these, you know, gender
and someone's religion. But currently, if you look at what's
going on in the Democratic Party, the sort of pro
(41:38):
Hamas wing of the Democratic Party is going to be
very active in a primer, and a guy like Shapiro
would have a very very challenging time. I think there's
a lot of reasons why he doesn't get through a
Democratic primary, but that's definitely a high on the list.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Sean midterms, I think it's fairly conventional wisdom that the
party in power loses seats in the mid terms. You
and I've talked about this a million times. It just happens.
Happens as Democrats happens to us. I'm assuming we're gonna
lose some seats. Now there's losing seats and then there's
a bloodbath and you're wiped out and Donald Trump gets
impeached every other day.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
What do you think we're looking at?
Speaker 14 (42:15):
So here's what I would tell you. I was at
the NRCC. I ran a division called Incumbent Retention. In
the two thousand cycle. We're one of the only times
in American history we actually picked up seats with party
and power. The difference was the economy was strong, Our
members were prepared, they raised the appropriate number of money,
and we minimized retirements. There is a bit of a
(42:37):
problem right now on our side in terms of how
many people are retiring. If the economy isn't in good
shape next July.
Speaker 13 (42:46):
I think we're gonna have a big problem.
Speaker 14 (42:48):
But Donald Trump's making in tons of investment, bringing companies here.
I got to believe that that money starts getting through
the pipeline by springtime next year, creating jobs, economic growth.
If the economy is in really good shape. Jesse they'll
pick seats up. If the economy is in the crapper,
we're screwed.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Okay, well, I guess fingers crossed on that. Sean, Thank you,
my brother. I appreciate it. Man, lighten the mood. Next,
it's time to lighten the mood. And as you are
(43:29):
well aware, I have a favorite thing about politics. You know,
we talk about politics. We care about politics because it
does matter, it does matter. But we all have little
things we greatly enjoy. I'm a bad person. I'm a
sick person, and part of this sickness is I enjoy
watching my enemies suffer, especially when they're doing something terrible
(43:52):
and suffering because of it. My favorite thing in politics
by a mile, by a mile, is Democrats pandering the
black people. It's so funny for a variety of reasons.
It's funny because of the ham fisted way they go
about it. It's so obvious, it's such obvious pandering. It's
funny because it's so obviously dishonest. It's Hillary Clinton carrying
(44:16):
hot sauce and her purse. It's Pete buddhaj Edge drinking
of forty with a couple black guys trying to increase
his numbers in the black community.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
I'm not kidding. You can go look it up.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That actually happened. Joe Biden Razor fighting with corn pop.
Gavin Newsom recently talked about eating wonderbread and shooting hoops
while hustling when he was on an NBA podcast. It's
just so freaking funny. It makes me laugh to no end.
Jacob Fray is a tiny, little Jewish guy who's trying
to keep getting elected mayor of Minneapolis. Who in order
(44:45):
to get mayor, to get to be mayor of Minneapolis,
you have to appeal to the Somali community. Now, Somalia
sucks for a variety of reasons, but maybe the worst
part about the country is the food. And that's when
they actually have some. Well, he sat down for some
some Molly cuisine, and honestly, this is exactly what I
used to look like when I was eating a plate
(45:08):
of lima beans that my mother had sat in front
of me. I despise all vegetables, but lima beans. I
used to do this exact thing you're looking at on
the screen right now. I used to spread it around
on the plate.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I used to do.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
At one time, I was about to vomit. It was
just the worst thing in the world and I did
exactly that, and it makes me laugh. He hates that food,
he pretends to like it. He's a filthy liar and
he's suffering as he panders.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I love it, see them all
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