July 25, 2024 • 42 mins
There is a common theme across America right now and that is a lack of accountability. Whether it was no one being held accountable for the tyranny of 2020 and beyond or the lack of accountability after the Afghanistan disaster. There's no shortage of examples. You can even look more recently into the Trump assassination attempt. While the Secret Service Director resigned, was there enough done to ensure Americans would trust in the institution again? Jesse Kelly dives in to all these issues on this First TV exclusive special
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
I had a conversation with somebody once and we were
we were having dinner, and he was talking about the
Marine Corps. You know, I used to be in the
Marine Corps just four years. I was a very average
grunt marine. I'm no war hero or anything like that.
But we were talking about the Marine Corps and what
this particular gentleman's fascination was, what he wanted to know
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was how does the Marine Corps turn very very very
young men into leaders, unbelievably young when you think about
them compared to other parts of our society. For instance,
I'll tell you I remember, like it was yesterday. I
used to lead patrols in Baghdad in War. I was
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twenty one years old. I was twenty one, twenty one,
twenty two years old, and I was leading patrols in
Baghdad ten fifteen, twenty men really under my charge. What
think about what other twenty one twenty two year olds
are doing. It's weird. How does that happen? This will
come back to America and accountability in a moment. Well,
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how it happens is accountability? Accountability that they drill into you,
You individually doesn't matter. Seventeen eighteen I don't want to
hear how old you are. I don't want any excuses.
Are you do you have a fresh shave? Are you packed?
Did you stay in the run, did you fall out
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of the run? Are you taking care of yourself? Are
you getting this done? And then, very very very quickly,
you will find yourself put in charge of others, one person,
two people, and then guess who's at fault? If those
guys screw up? You are you are held accountable, Kelly,
this guy under your command, he didn't have enough spare socks.
That's on you, your fault. You're punished, and as it
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goes up, up, up, up up. That's really that was
my answer to the man that it was one word answer, accountability.
You are held accountable at all times, and therefore you
have no other choice but to perform and to grow up.
And as a result, you have these units. You have
Marine Corps infantry units that are run amazingly by young
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young men. Now, let's talk about America because that's really
our crisis. That's why we're doing a special on this.
That is the major crisis we have right now, among others.
But it explains so much. We have an accountability crisis
unlike anything I've ever seen in my entire life. Nobody
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is held accountable for anything. Our leaders aren't held accountable.
They aren't held accountable by other institutions who should hold
them accountable. For instance, the media doesn't hold the government
accountable when it comes to our elected officials, the voters
themselves us you mean, I'm not talking about us specifically,
but the voters, the citizens. They don't hold elected leaders accountable,
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and as a result, we have military leaders, government leaders,
politicians who were never none of them ever held accountable
for anything at all, and it's destroying the United States
of America. Just one last little flashback. Have you ever
read a book about World War Two or watched a
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documentary of any kind about World War Two, many things
will hit you. One of the things that always blows
me away is how quickly generals and admirals, high high
ranking people were fired, immediately fired or resigned. And oftentimes,
you know how harsh I tend to be harsh, direct, rude,
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you might say, Oftentimes it seems a little harsh something
that maybe wasn't even this general's fault. He couldn't possibly
have known. He still resigns in disgrace. You know that admirals, admirals, captains, commanders,
generals committed suicide in the wake of terrible things happening
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in World War Two. So overwhelmed with guilt, ah, I
didn't perform. Well, that's how things used to be. Today.
Donald Trump just had a bullet two inches away from
taking his brains out of his skull. Every single thing
we have found out from that point to this point
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has only made the security failures look worse and worse,
and more negligent, and more negligent and more negligent. And
this was the head of the Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The Secret Services solemn mission is to protect our nation's leaders.
On July thirteenth, we failed. As a director of the
United States Secret Service. I take full responsibility for any
security lapse of our agency.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Takes full responsibility. But then these people were never fired. Now,
she ended up resigning. But you know how this is
going to work. She's not resigning in disgrace. She's not
going to have to change her name and move to
the mountains. No, no, no, no, nothing like that. She's going
to resign or she did resign, and she's going to
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be handed another sweetheart. Gig By the system somewhere. She'll
be once again back in corporate America, heading up some
fortune five hundred companies security, bringing in half million dollars
a year. Because there is no more disgrace, because there
is no more shame, because there is no more accountability.
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Christopher Wray was asked about this whole thing. Here's what
he said. You don't plan on resigning anytime soon, do you, sir? No, sir,
good to go. Ahha, it's funny. Of course he wouldn't resign.
Somebody almost just shot Donald Trump in the head. We
have crimes running rampant in this country. The Federal Bureau
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of Investigation has been hunting down pro lifers and angry
school board moms in January sixth, non violent political protesters,
and droves. At no point in American history has the
FBI looked so bad. They look so bad now. We
understand that local law enforcement agencies have ceased cooperating with them.
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And Christopher Rays resigned. Resign? Why would he resign? It's
no accountability anymore. Remember Afghanistan. This might be the worst
example because it's the one that just tears my guts out.
We had bogram, we had an air force, base in Afghanistan,
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a place where we could have pulled out of that
Aghani Stand safely because it was a controlled environment. You
could do it step by step safely. Instead, they just
emptied Bogram, tried to leave. Of course, the country collapses
almost immediately. Biden administration doesn't like the poll numbers. Military
goes back in, tries to secure a freaking civilian airport.
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They've got these poor marines, army, and sailors stuck outside
with no proper security, standing amongst crowds of people. And
of course, a suicide bomber who we believe was released
from Bogram when we opened up the gates, blows himself
up and kills thirteen of our warriors. Their deaths are
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on the heads of our generals, colonels, politicians. Nobody resigned.
And then in the wake of that, of course, they
needed some brownie points with the public because the public
was angry. They sent a reaper drone after ten innocent people,
completely innocent people. Six of those people were children. Wrap
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your mind around this. You didn't do this, so you
don't have to take ownership of it. But the United
States of America, our military, our generals are politicians, We
murdered tenantis and people, six of them children, and the
chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He was then Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs. Mark Milly called it what now.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We know from a variety of other means that at
least one of those people that were killed was a
ISIS facilitator. So were there are others killed? Yes, there
are others killed. Who they are we don't know. We'll
try to sort through all that, but we believe that
the procedures at this point, I don't want to influence
the outcome of an investigation, but at this point we
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think that the procedures were correctly followed and it was
a righteous strike.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Righteous strike. There was no perists, there was no ISIS individuals,
and those other people but we couldn't be bothered to
learn about were children who got blown up by an
American reaper drone. No resignations, no firings. When asked about
it later, John Kirby said nobody was even reprimanded for it.
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Called it what did he call it? A failure of process?
No accountability at all. Remember Lloyd Austin, Defense Secretary of
Lloyd Austin, after the international disgrace of Afghanistan practically laughed
off the idea of resigning.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Do you have regrets about the withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I support the president's decision.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Do you have regrets about their withdrawal or how the
withdrawal occurred from Afghanistan that cost the lives of thirteen
of our service members.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I don't have any regrets, No regrets. Thirteen warriors will
never celebrate Christmas with their family again. Ten innus in
Afghans wiped out in response to that Defense Secretary doesn't
ever regret in the world. This is where we are
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as a country. Do I even need to go to COVID?
Do we need to talk about guys like doctor Fauci.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
You also write that some people close to you, including
your wife, suggested you should consider resigning.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Some of the craziness. Why did you never consider doing that?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know, gentlemen, I just felt that we had to
have somebody there who is actually getting the correct information
to the American public. I have felt and still do
a very strong responsibility to the American public, not to
any administration or any person, but to the American public.
And I was afraid that despite the pressures and all
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the somewhat unusual things that were going on. If I
did walk away from it, there would be very little
opportunity to get the correct, potentially life saving information to
the American public.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Not announce a shame or regret all those lies destroyed.
Some lives ended because of Fauci and his gardens and
his advice. He's not ashamed, He's not hiding out in
the mountains. Changed his name still all over the television set.
Watch this little video, and just know every single person
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you see here, not a single one of them was
held accountable. Everyone should be afraid of COVID ching. You
shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I can't come in Mom's there.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
It's because of.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
This flu thing.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
We won't be free of this pandemic until we listen
to the acknowledged truth. Listen to the scientists. Science is truth.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
You know, science is truth.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
What is the impact to public health when people are
openly questioning the science?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Now is the time to do what you're told.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
By not hearing the truth, by not listening to the scientists,
are prolonging how bad the economy will be.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Well, I see somebody out in the world who's not
wearing a mask, I instantly think you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Are a threat. Seek out the scientists and listen to
their advice. Listen to scientists. Listen to the scientists. Trust
the experts. We're going to trust science. We're going to
trust the experts. Parents who say, well, I need to
do my own research makes you think of that cartoon
I saw the tombstone that said I did my own research.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
If some jerk exposed my mother to COVID because they
didn't want to wear a mask, I would want to
kill them.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No accountability. We cannot go on like this. We have
to become a nation of accountability again, or we can't
fix it. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right. We have so much to talk about tonight.
We'll be bad.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Are you suggesting you think the Biden administration, which was
responsible for Trump's security, allowed this to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It's not outside their own possibility. It's just not.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
And the people who are in charge of protecting Donald
Trump's life have not answered the questions. They haven't been
held to account pretty obviously never will be. It does
feel like there's no recourse, like they can just murder
a guy or allow his murder and the rest of
us just have to sit there and be like, Yeah,
that's kind of how it goes, like, that's not the
country you want to live in at all.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's not the country it was five years ago. What
is this? What is this? It's actually a really great
way to put that. Where are we now? Joining me now,
my friend Jack Pasobic, author of the book Unhumans, some
really wonderful communist history. That book highly highly recommended. Jack Well,
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Kim Cheedoh resigns. I'm sure she's gonna nance her way
into some sweetheard Corporate America deal making a half million
a years, so it's not as if she's gonna have
any kind of accountability at all. But what kind of
country do we have now, Jack.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Well, Jesse, It's very clear and anyone you know, like
with a brain or who has the ability to read
words on paper, that you would understand that something has
gone very, very wrong and awry in our country. Let's
just take the events beyond the assassination attempt and look
at the fact that just eight days later, eight days later,
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the Democrat Party and their leaders decided that the President
of United States shouldn't be the nominee anymore so, rather
than going in and asking him or going to their
voters and asking them who they thought should be the
new nominee. They just decided to take all of his
delegates away and assign them to someone else, and take
all of the money away that had been given to
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one candidate and hand it to another one. And meanwhile,
all the prosecutors and investigators who had a really big
problem with Donald Trump going through his lawyer to sign
a legal settlement with Stormy Daniels and that became a
massive felony. They don't seem at all interested in this massive,
hundreds of millions of dollars, a fraud that's being perpetuated
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before our very eyes.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
We're witnessing a palace coup. This is what they did
to Krusehov.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Now we're living under a new type of system, and
you might as well call it an irregular communist revolution,
a revolutionary regime that's taken over our government, and it's
done so slowly by drips and drabs.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You could say it started in the forties. You could
say it started in the fifties.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
People have different people have different and debatable opinions on when.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Exactly it started. But it's here. It's here now.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
People like Senator Joseph McCarthy were ringing the bell all
the way back in the nineteen fifties that this was
coming started in the State Department, it moved on administration
to administration, institution after institution, and slowly crept his way.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Walt Disney warned us that they were creeping up through.
Speaker 10 (16:08):
Hollywood, getting in through the labor unions, et cetera, et cetera,
and now we're living under it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
This is the system under which we live.
Speaker 10 (16:16):
It is cultural Marxism, a cultural Marxist, neo Bolshevik regime.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Which brings me to you know, you mentioned the assassination attempt. Jack.
We're sitting around waiting for the report on what happened.
Was it a lone gunman or whatever else they're going
to tell us. But the report, Jack, is going to
come from the FBI, the same organization that attacked inspired
on Donald Trump in his first campaign, did everything they
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could do to destroy his presidency from within, arrested pro lifers,
school board moms, January sixth ers who were peaceful. This
is the organization we're going to rely on to tell
us the real skinny, the real truth on what happened
in the assassination attempt, That.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Right exactly so the people, by the way, who even
FBI directory, the same guy just had to admit yesterday
that his own employees were say expressing publicly the opinion
that they wish that the assassin hadn't met had missed that.
These are the type of people that are going to
be conducting the investigations all of it, and yeah, we
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should totally trust them and totally trust their findings. By
the way, the same situation where you know, where are
the press conferences, where are the crime scene investigators that
are telling us what's going on? You know, I'm from
the Philadelphia area. Whenever we have one of our mass shootings,
you get it. You get an update, you get an update.
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Ready regularly get more updates from like local fires than
we have on this thing. You have the FBI guys
there is telling you what happened, the sheriff, the local
police are there. No, we're not getting any of those.
We're getting conflicting stories, conflicting information. When you ask basic questions,
hey was this iron sight? Was there an eotech? Was
there a scope? And the FBI director says, we don't
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what do you mean, you don't know the guns right there.
These are basic questions of ballistics. Was the gun they're
the only one that fired? There were eight shell casings? Great,
so can you confirm that there were only eight shots fired?
Couldn't give you an answer. Again, these are very basic
questions that they're not asking.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
They're not giving us the answers to.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
And more importantly, the questions about the massive gaping Swiss
cheese holes in the security around the president have never
once been given a cursory or satisfactory answer. I think
to anyone where you've got five foot three women that
are attempting to block bullets from a six foot three
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former president and presidential candidate, Well, I'm I'm sorry to
all the girl bosses out there, but physics are physics,
and if you're five to three, you're not going to
be able to do much of protection to him at
all because he's a foot taller than you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Jack accountability or lack their of what's the connection there
from these dirtball former Kami regimes like the ones you
write about. What's the link between lack of accountability and
how these people run things? Well, it's very simple.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
With lack of accountability that's how you get the Bolsheviks.
At one point, the Bolsheviks were pretty much just a
couple one hundred guys in like one building in Moscow
or in Petrograd, Saint Petersburg what was called at the time,
and the military law enforcement, anyone could have just gone
in and arrested them during the revolution and said, no,
you guys actually aren't going to take over the government.
You're not going to take over the country. We're going
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to nip this thing in the bud. But if you
don't do anything, if you don't actually provide reciprocity, if
you don't actually provide real accountability, and accountability does not
mean oh we published mean tweets and we got some
clips up that are getting retweeted, and we're all getting
donations for our campaign coffers in the election year, and
oh we're actually gonna do something. No, if these people
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are still in power, if Chris Ray is still in power,
then you have not achieved accountability. We've got a bunch
of clips up on social media. Then guess what you
haven't achieved accountability. Accountability comes when people are behind bars.
This will not stop, and I'm going to keep saying
it till I'm blue in the face and I've got
By the way, the entire media is going after JD.
Vance right now because he endorsed the book. But this
is the main thing we explain. It's about actually using
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the power of law and order on the other side
and making them feel the same thing that we have
all felt for the last decade.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Once you do that.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
And by the way, this started with Denesh Desuza when
they were throwing him in jail for making movies about
Barack Obama that the Obama administration didn't like. Don't tell
me that we started the law fair stuff. No, you
guys did. And until we actually see high level democrats
behind bars, none of this is going away.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
One hundred percent true, Jack, my brother, as always, thank you.
The book is on humans, go pick it up. Iighly
recommend it. It's an outstanding book. Something I echo. I
want to talk about accountability. I've said you will know
the country is on its way to being fixed when
government people, lots of them, start going to prison. I
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don't mean one random Republican that they persecuted. Government people
being arrested, tried, and imprisoned for what they've done. That
includes FBI agents, politicians. Once that starts happening, you'll know
that we're accountable again and we're on our way to
fixing things. All right, we have more hang on it.
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We must have a reckoning, and you can call it vengeance.
That's fine. I'm not going to lie to you. I
do want vengeance, there's no question about that. But for
the good of the country, for the sake of Western society,
we must have people put on trial. People must go
to prison for this. They must. People have to lose
their livelihoods, They have to lose every thing because they
took everything away from others. They must watch their colleagues
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lose everything over lies so they don't tell those same
lies again another time. There must be a reckoning. It
must happen, It must be severe, and it must be public. Well,
I'm not holding my breath that we're ever going to
have one of those, and it's certainly not one like
I want to see. I wonder if we are getting
one in different ways, maybe even worse ways. Joining me now,
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the great doctor j. Batacharia has joined us many times.
Professor Stanford School of Medicine, one of the good ones
who was right about this from the very very beginning, doctor,
j I know we're not gonna have trials. I know,
no one's going to prison. I'm not naive. I get that,
But what effects have we seen? Have we seen downstream effects?
Is it just loss of trust and institutions? Is that
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really the only reckoning we're going to get?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
We certainly have that, Jesse, There's no question, And I
think I want to be constructive.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, that's just I mean, that's just the way
I guess.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I have no other way to be and I want
And so the question is like, what do you do
with that lack of trust? And it's in a way
it's healthy that it exists, because the people that we
put our trust in didn't deserve that trust, you know,
people like Tony Fauci, And so I think the constructive
thing to do is to is to build on that.
I mean, I still, Jesse, believe that public health is important.
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You know, clean water, sanitation, you know, there are lots
and lots of things that public health does I think
are important, and so we have to refocus and restructure
public health so that it actually serves the public. We
don't want to have a few commissars basically decide our lives.
That can close our schools, close our businesses, close our
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ability to go to church, to force our children to
mask with absolutely no scientific evidence. And I think, you
know this is now I was naive in some sense
for early I thought that we as a scientific committee
could come together, But now I realize what it's going
to take is going to take concerted political action for
that kind of reform. And it has to be part
of the political uh the political environment where where uh
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that that lack of trust is permitted to have a
sort of like a reality come come forward, you know,
in the political political setting.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And I'm still hopeful that we can get that. Okay,
how do we get that? Because traditionally the only way
to earn trust back once it's been violated is open honesty, accountability,
even punishment from time to time. Are we anticipating that,
because without that, how do we get it back?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I mean, I think for one thing is that the
people who head up public health there needs to be
a new generation of leaders. I mean they cannot be
the same generational leaders that failed, and that generational leadership
start with a abject to pology to the public because
we failed the public. We absolutely failed the public. And
then and then we can start with a con diructive
program of the regulatory agencies that govern public health. What
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was the basic fundamental problem they had? I think there's
I think there's two. One is lack of transparency with
the public and then decent there and the centralization of power.
You have to solve both of those problems at the FDA,
at the CDC, at the NIH. You have to involve
the public much more so that there's that scientists and
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public health officials can't just imperiously rule over the public.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And I think those both of those things have to happen.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
A you have to have an honest apology from because
we did we we really failed the public. And then
we have to then then start to say what was
really fund The reason why is because you had people
in power like Tony Fachi for forty years with way
too much power over what the scientific community thought public health,
with far too much power, with no checks and balances.
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It's I think the idea of America, which is, you know,
checks and balances, the rule of law. No one no
one has, no one as above, no one can can
like garner part of them, no one as king if
we put back the idea of America into public health.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's how we gain trust back. Let's talk about social
distancing and how these lies turn into rules that this
video is always bothering me here. It is.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
The initial recommendation that the CDC brought to the White House,
and I talk about this was ten feet, and a
political appointing in a White House said, we can't recommend
ten feet. Nobody can measure ten feet. It's inoperable. Society
will shut down. So the compromise was around six.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So it's it's while watching how these people discuss these
things now, as if they're kind of unimportant, just little guidelines.
They all do this falluci does it. They all do
it as if it's well, we had to decide and
we couldn't decide here, and it really wasn't a big deal.
But these things destroyed lives, These things altered lies, probably
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ended lies, if we're being honest about it. And yet
all the people who did these things are just so
flippant about it. Now. It drives me up the wall.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It does me too, I mean, it drives me crazy.
I mean to think about this because there was no
science behind the distance, none, Right, if this is a
virus that's spreads by aerosols, Jesse, You don't. You could
be five million feet from me if we just happen
to be in the same you know, you breathe in
the same room, and then I later, a month later,
a week later, come in that same room, I could
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get the virus from you. Right, So the six foot
distancing made absolutely no sense. There was no science behind it,
and yet and you're absolutely right, what it did is
it crushed our society. Schools could not open with desks
six feet apart, because how many kids can you fit
in a room with if you have all on um
to say, six feet apart. We essentially told, we, meaning
public health, told the world that we should treat our
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neighbor as biohazards, fundamentally violating our ethical principles that we
have to treat each other as a human beings, to
that that that we care and love for each other.
I love our neighbor as ourselves, right, No, but instead
you treat your neighbor as a biohazard. That's what that
six feet meant, And there was no science behind it,
and it's it's it's powerful. The kinds of things tools
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that public health has as its disposal Jesse, right, we
it can hijack our basic human empathy and turn us
against each other, and so it absolutely needs checks and
balances at it's center. It's one of these things where
like I do still believe in the necessity of public health,
has said sanitation, a whole bunch of things that public
health does that keeps us healthier. But it should be
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consistent with our values, our fundamental values of liberty, fundamental
values of good government, of governance that doesn't impose on us.
The public health should never have ruled on us. They
should always be a servant of the people, and it
was the opposite during the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Doctor, how does you say this was not based on science?
But how does something that's not based on science become
so accepted in the highest levels of science and then
after that they become public policy? Meaning what's the genesis
of all this? Where did all this began? Is it
some dirty human being who wants to destroy society just
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comes up with a number and decides to pass it along.
That doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand how
crazy concepts not based in science become the rule for
a country of three hundred and thirty million people.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Can you explain that process to me? Yeah, I'll try, Jesse.
I wish I had a full answer, because I don't
have a full answer. But I'll tell you what I think.
I don't think it's a single one person, you know,
doctor evil or whatever. I think what happens is that
you have an event, you have really a catastrophic event,
like you have a virus that is spreading around, very
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likely as a result of dangerous scientific experiments.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Right, And if you're let me do an analogy. Right.
So I was a medical student once.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I was a third year medical student once since the
year when you first start to see patients, and as
a third year medical student, you often don't know a lot,
and you have a patient in front of you who
are asking you important questions about their health. And as
a third year medical student, you have to resist the
urge to lie about what you know in order to
make the patient happy. Right, Because you want to be
honest with the patient, you have to learn to say, Okay,
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I don't know to the patient, and I'll go try
to find out. I'll try to figure out what the
right answer is. I'll go ask other people who know more.
But a lot of third year medical students have difficulty
with that. They pretend to knowledge they don't have. That's
what happened during this pandemic with some of the very
highest people in public health. They had no idea about
the harms that they're not. They're not in a sense.
You saw Francis Collins, the head of the ni AH,
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give it a talk where he says, look, I was
just I just cared about COVID.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I wasn't thinking about all the harms to the children,
to the poor people, to the working class from these
things because it wasn't my job right, and that means
that that person should not have been in charge of
those decisions. We need people there to understand how societies
actually work like that, to to care about the poorest
people in the society, to care about our children. And
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the way that you'd get that is by radical decentralization
and radical a radical sort of democratization, if you will,
of public health. It's too imperious and it's it's not
it's not consistent with American values. That's why I think,
I like, I think the idea of America, you know that,
which is this idea of of you know, we are
we are all essentially rulers of this country. We are
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all we have the checks and balances, The government has
limited set of powers. I think that idea would make
public health better. And I think the problem is that
public health thinks is of itself essentially, has thought of
itself essentially as rulers, as kings and without And if
you anyone, anyone inside the scientific community that pushes back,
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I mean, you get destroyed. I can tell you from
firsthand experience. And the other thing I'd say is that
once you have this fear, all these other entity start
piling on. You get like pharmaceutical companies like taking advantage.
You get like all these other people with like their
own agendas taking advantage of it. I think it's that
mix of like people pretending you knowledge they didn't have,
creating panic, and then a whole bunch of like opportunistic
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nonsense happening.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What is that doctor, you're you're a doctor, I'm not.
Just as we wrap this up here, is that is
that our doctor is more inclined towards arrogance. Not that
I'm blasting away at doctors, but you are more educated
than most people. You know, a lot of things that
a lot of people know or is it an arrogance thing?
Is that what it is?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
It's a kind of God complex it is. It's arrogance
is the right word for it, right, you know? And
I think it's it's public health that during the pandemic
kind of had this. They thought that they could control
the minutest actions of society and they and you know,
no one can, No one has that knowledge, no one
has that right. And I think we need changes in
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our public health structures, laws. You know, everyone should ask
their the guy running for dogcatcher, would they ever lock
down again? Like you know, from the top to the
bottom of our political structures. We should the political the
folks we elect should know that we won't stand for it,
and we won't elect them if they if they are
going to violate our rights in that way, and they
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should be asked that every single time, in every single
election until until finally that we have the laws and
place that prevent from happening again.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I think that it's going to take concerted political action.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I thought naively early on that it would just be
scientists could fix this, but I don't anymore, Jesse, and
I think it's going to take a real political action
to fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah. I think you're right, doctor Jake, Doctor, you are
the best of my brother. Come back soon please. All right, Well,
it's not just the medical community that lacks accountability. The
military is in bad, bad shape when it comes to this.
We're going to talk about that. Next. What what of
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American blowdown?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Everybody?
Speaker 6 (34:15):
I want to talk about two things.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
First, Afghanistan. Wow that every time I watch videos of
Generals Biden, Kamala Harris after Afghanistan, it just makes my
blood pressure go through the roof. They were all so
just kind of flippant and uncaring about the whole freaking thing.
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Joining me now, Brad Miller, retired colonel US Army. Kate
Monroe retired to retired United States Marine Corps. What I'm
talking about sempify all right, Brad, let's begin with you.
It wasn't funny. It was aggravating beyond belief to watch
them put our people in harm's way, watch our young
men and women die, and then watch what we did
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in respect responds to that. And what blew me away
was not necessarily the dirtball politicians, but the generals. Where
are the resignations. Where are the people resigning and disgrace?
Where are they? It's a great question.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
I think the key word here is accountability, and that
there has been none. So I think you raised a
great question is that how can Americans, whether they are
service members, whether they are veterans, whether they're the family
of service members or veterans, or whether just Americans in general,
how can Americans look at our generals and our admirals
and actually think that these individuals are making the best
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decisions for our military and for our national interests.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Apparently, I don't know what happens once you get a
star put on your shoulders anymore. Kate, You know what
I remember I talked about this at the beginning of
the show. As a very young, very average marine, accountability
was everything for us. If you didn't have enough socks
in your pack, you were held accountable for it. If
one of your guys didn't have his toothbrush in order,
you were held accountable for it. That's what it's like
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for the men and women on the ground. But apparently
once you get promoted above six, that just goes away. Now, yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Mean, apparently you can be in American politics and be
all the way up in the White House and have
no accountability. It's not just Afghanistan. Look at the border,
look at homeless as looks. Look what has happened to
veterans on account of all these migrants, Look at the assassination.
No one wants to take any accountability, period And it's
an epidemic that we have in our leadership here in
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our country.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
No doubt. I remember when John Kirby, Brad Remember when
John Kirby got up he said this after we've drowne
strike six children.
Speaker 12 (36:40):
What I can tell you is we looked at this
thing very, very comprehensively, and again we acknowledge that there
were procedural breakdowns, processes were not executed the way they
should have been, but it doesn't necessarily indicate that an
individual or individuals have to be held to account for that.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
But look, this is more discipline inside the Pentagon at all.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I mean, maybe they're no charge just brought up, but
is anyone demoted or disciplined for what happened?
Speaker 12 (37:03):
Then what we are going to do. There's not going
to be individual discipline as a result of this, really,
but what we are going to do is learn from
this and We're going to enact and improve our procedures
in our processes to try to make sure this doesn't
happen again.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
We're going to learn from this like a child eating
paste in preschool. What does that mean exactly, Brad, a
failure of process. But nobody's getting fired or reprimanded. Who
is process? Can we meet him? So here's what that means.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
That is a euphemism for we are going to do nothing,
but we are going to tell you that we are
going to do something to improve our processes. I mean,
this is just extremely wishy washy language. As he said,
there will be no personal discipline.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Accountability can look a lot of different ways depending on
the offense that has been committed. So of course there
can be charges that are filed, but there are other
ways in which discipline can be achieved that don't necessarily
result in criminal charges.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
The problem is when you know nothing is done.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
So I think at the outset you mentioned that I
was a retired colonel. I actually resigned as a lieutenant colonel,
but I spent nineteen years in the army, and before that,
you know, four years at West Point, and just like
you mentioned a couple of minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Accountability was everything. I mean, that was.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Something that I learned very early on in my first
days as a cadet at west Point. But somewhere along
the way, as an institution, we have completely abandoned the
necessity or the practice of accountability.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I can't believe they ruined west Point too. What a
freaking revered place. What was it like at west Point?
Was it cool? I could never have gotten in or
been an officer at all, because I'm not smart enough.
But was it cool being there? I'll tell you this.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
And I don't know how I got in. There's probably
some other Brad Miller out there and they accidentally, you know,
sent me the acceptance letter that was meant for him.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
But I will tell you this. So I was in
my junior year at.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
West Point when nine to eleven occurred, and so as
great as an institution as the institution was before nine
to eleven, that place changed from one day to the
next at nine to eleven, because even though it was
a revered institution, don't get me wrong, but on nine
to eleven, everything that we were doing became so much
more real, right, and everyone knew.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I mean, by nine to twelve.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
We all knew that we were going to graduate and
we were all going to go to war, and of
course that happened. You know, I graduated in two thousand
and three, all my classmates, myself, I mean, we all
went to war. It was just what was going to
happen at that time period. And so what happens now
when we look back twenty years later and we look
at where our military has been over the last two decades,
and we just had to ask ourselves, what has happened
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to our institution and why are the individuals who are
at the top of the institution allowing it to just
go down the drain or perhaps driving it down the
drain deliberately.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I remember, like it was yesterday watching that in the
barracks room, and it did. It became real in that moment.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Kay.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
We have a recruiting problem, a huge recruiting problem. And
if you break it down demographically, it's white rural males
who are not joining anymore. The other recruiting number is
actually fairly stable. But that's been a huge chunk of
the American military and they're checking out Kate, and once again,
there's no accountability for this. Nobody's owning up to it,
and I talked to these officers. I get all kinds
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of private info from guys who were in. They're not
even discussing the real reasons why people aren't joining. It's
not even on the table for discussion.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
Well, there's so many reasons. I've actually written many op
eds about it. I talked to Admiral X Walker, in
charge of you naval recruiting. There's many reasons, but lack
of patriotism being one of them. There is also a
high level of assaults in my generation. I was assaulted
when I was in the Marine Corps, and then a
lot of those things are never taken care of either VA.
So you have a whole generation of parents telling their kids, hey,
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you're not safe in the military. You also just have
a bunch of DEI and wokeism and liberalism that has
crept into these institutions, and these kids don't want to serve.
And it's interesting to note that the Marine Corps is
not having a recruiting crisis. Have they slipped a little
bit of their sprit de corps? Certainly they have, but
they have maintained most of it. And you will see
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kids that normally would go into the Air Force, into
the Army, into the Navy, going into the Marine Corps,
because that is what they're looking for to be in
the real military. That's why I think the Marines are
leading the charge on recruiting. But we're sort of at
an event horizon here. If we don't turn back and
fix this is a very scary situation.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It really is, Brad Kate, both of you. Appreciate you
very much. Thank you. Guys. All Right, we're not done.
Let's still have a little bit more I got. We
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have to get back to being a country that's accountable.
We the voters have to be better about holding our
politicians accountable. The politicians we elect have to be better
about holding bureaucrats accountable. We have to get back to
being a country where you own your mistakes, admit your mistakes,
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even take punishment for your mistakes. Otherwise we become a
nation that is just built onlies. That's why they lie
about everything. Now, and we can't go on like this
at all. Let's dig in and get back to where
we should be. We'll do it again
I had a conversation with somebody once and we were
we were having dinner, and he was talking about the
Marine Corps. You know, I used to be in the
Marine Corps just four years. I was a very average
grunt marine. I'm no war hero or anything like that.
But we were talking about the Marine Corps and what
this particular gentleman's fascination was, what he wanted to know
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was how does the Marine Corps turn very very very
young men into leaders, unbelievably young when you think about
them compared to other parts of our society. For instance,
I'll tell you I remember, like it was yesterday. I
used to lead patrols in Baghdad in War. I was
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twenty one years old. I was twenty one, twenty one,
twenty two years old, and I was leading patrols in
Baghdad ten fifteen, twenty men really under my charge. What
think about what other twenty one twenty two year olds
are doing. It's weird. How does that happen? This will
come back to America and accountability in a moment. Well,
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how it happens is accountability? Accountability that they drill into you,
You individually doesn't matter. Seventeen eighteen I don't want to
hear how old you are. I don't want any excuses.
Are you do you have a fresh shave? Are you packed?
Did you stay in the run, did you fall out
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of the run? Are you taking care of yourself? Are
you getting this done? And then, very very very quickly,
you will find yourself put in charge of others, one person,
two people, and then guess who's at fault? If those
guys screw up? You are you are held accountable, Kelly,
this guy under your command, he didn't have enough spare socks.
That's on you, your fault. You're punished, and as it
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goes up, up, up, up up. That's really that was
my answer to the man that it was one word answer, accountability.
You are held accountable at all times, and therefore you
have no other choice but to perform and to grow up.
And as a result, you have these units. You have
Marine Corps infantry units that are run amazingly by young
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young men. Now, let's talk about America because that's really
our crisis. That's why we're doing a special on this.
That is the major crisis we have right now, among others.
But it explains so much. We have an accountability crisis
unlike anything I've ever seen in my entire life. Nobody
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is held accountable for anything. Our leaders aren't held accountable.
They aren't held accountable by other institutions who should hold
them accountable. For instance, the media doesn't hold the government
accountable when it comes to our elected officials, the voters
themselves us you mean, I'm not talking about us specifically,
but the voters, the citizens. They don't hold elected leaders accountable,
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and as a result, we have military leaders, government leaders,
politicians who were never none of them ever held accountable
for anything at all, and it's destroying the United States
of America. Just one last little flashback. Have you ever
read a book about World War Two or watched a
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documentary of any kind about World War Two, many things
will hit you. One of the things that always blows
me away is how quickly generals and admirals, high high
ranking people were fired, immediately fired or resigned. And oftentimes,
you know how harsh I tend to be harsh, direct, rude,
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you might say, Oftentimes it seems a little harsh something
that maybe wasn't even this general's fault. He couldn't possibly
have known. He still resigns in disgrace. You know that admirals, admirals, captains, commanders,
generals committed suicide in the wake of terrible things happening
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in World War Two. So overwhelmed with guilt, ah, I
didn't perform. Well, that's how things used to be. Today.
Donald Trump just had a bullet two inches away from
taking his brains out of his skull. Every single thing
we have found out from that point to this point
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has only made the security failures look worse and worse,
and more negligent, and more negligent and more negligent. And
this was the head of the Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The Secret Services solemn mission is to protect our nation's leaders.
On July thirteenth, we failed. As a director of the
United States Secret Service. I take full responsibility for any
security lapse of our agency.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Takes full responsibility. But then these people were never fired. Now,
she ended up resigning. But you know how this is
going to work. She's not resigning in disgrace. She's not
going to have to change her name and move to
the mountains. No, no, no, no, nothing like that. She's going
to resign or she did resign, and she's going to
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be handed another sweetheart. Gig By the system somewhere. She'll
be once again back in corporate America, heading up some
fortune five hundred companies security, bringing in half million dollars
a year. Because there is no more disgrace, because there
is no more shame, because there is no more accountability.
(05:50):
Christopher Wray was asked about this whole thing. Here's what
he said. You don't plan on resigning anytime soon, do you, sir? No, sir,
good to go. Ahha, it's funny. Of course he wouldn't resign.
Somebody almost just shot Donald Trump in the head. We
have crimes running rampant in this country. The Federal Bureau
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of Investigation has been hunting down pro lifers and angry
school board moms in January sixth, non violent political protesters,
and droves. At no point in American history has the
FBI looked so bad. They look so bad now. We
understand that local law enforcement agencies have ceased cooperating with them.
(06:35):
And Christopher Rays resigned. Resign? Why would he resign? It's
no accountability anymore. Remember Afghanistan. This might be the worst
example because it's the one that just tears my guts out.
We had bogram, we had an air force, base in Afghanistan,
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a place where we could have pulled out of that
Aghani Stand safely because it was a controlled environment. You
could do it step by step safely. Instead, they just
emptied Bogram, tried to leave. Of course, the country collapses
almost immediately. Biden administration doesn't like the poll numbers. Military
goes back in, tries to secure a freaking civilian airport.
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They've got these poor marines, army, and sailors stuck outside
with no proper security, standing amongst crowds of people. And
of course, a suicide bomber who we believe was released
from Bogram when we opened up the gates, blows himself
up and kills thirteen of our warriors. Their deaths are
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on the heads of our generals, colonels, politicians. Nobody resigned.
And then in the wake of that, of course, they
needed some brownie points with the public because the public
was angry. They sent a reaper drone after ten innocent people,
completely innocent people. Six of those people were children. Wrap
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your mind around this. You didn't do this, so you
don't have to take ownership of it. But the United
States of America, our military, our generals are politicians, We
murdered tenantis and people, six of them children, and the
chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He was then Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs. Mark Milly called it what now.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We know from a variety of other means that at
least one of those people that were killed was a
ISIS facilitator. So were there are others killed? Yes, there
are others killed. Who they are we don't know. We'll
try to sort through all that, but we believe that
the procedures at this point, I don't want to influence
the outcome of an investigation, but at this point we
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think that the procedures were correctly followed and it was
a righteous strike.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Righteous strike. There was no perists, there was no ISIS individuals,
and those other people but we couldn't be bothered to
learn about were children who got blown up by an
American reaper drone. No resignations, no firings. When asked about
it later, John Kirby said nobody was even reprimanded for it.
(09:13):
Called it what did he call it? A failure of process?
No accountability at all. Remember Lloyd Austin, Defense Secretary of
Lloyd Austin, after the international disgrace of Afghanistan practically laughed
off the idea of resigning.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Do you have regrets about the withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I support the president's decision.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Do you have regrets about their withdrawal or how the
withdrawal occurred from Afghanistan that cost the lives of thirteen
of our service members.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I don't have any regrets, No regrets. Thirteen warriors will
never celebrate Christmas with their family again. Ten innus in
Afghans wiped out in response to that Defense Secretary doesn't
ever regret in the world. This is where we are
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as a country. Do I even need to go to COVID?
Do we need to talk about guys like doctor Fauci.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
You also write that some people close to you, including
your wife, suggested you should consider resigning.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Some of the craziness. Why did you never consider doing that?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know, gentlemen, I just felt that we had to
have somebody there who is actually getting the correct information
to the American public. I have felt and still do
a very strong responsibility to the American public, not to
any administration or any person, but to the American public.
And I was afraid that despite the pressures and all
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the somewhat unusual things that were going on. If I
did walk away from it, there would be very little
opportunity to get the correct, potentially life saving information to
the American public.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Not announce a shame or regret all those lies destroyed.
Some lives ended because of Fauci and his gardens and
his advice. He's not ashamed, He's not hiding out in
the mountains. Changed his name still all over the television set.
Watch this little video, and just know every single person
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you see here, not a single one of them was
held accountable. Everyone should be afraid of COVID ching. You
shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I can't come in Mom's there.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
It's because of.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
This flu thing.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
We won't be free of this pandemic until we listen
to the acknowledged truth. Listen to the scientists. Science is truth.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
You know, science is truth.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
What is the impact to public health when people are
openly questioning the science?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Now is the time to do what you're told.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
By not hearing the truth, by not listening to the scientists,
are prolonging how bad the economy will be.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Well, I see somebody out in the world who's not
wearing a mask, I instantly think you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Are a threat. Seek out the scientists and listen to
their advice. Listen to scientists. Listen to the scientists. Trust
the experts. We're going to trust science. We're going to
trust the experts. Parents who say, well, I need to
do my own research makes you think of that cartoon
I saw the tombstone that said I did my own research.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
If some jerk exposed my mother to COVID because they
didn't want to wear a mask, I would want to
kill them.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No accountability. We cannot go on like this. We have
to become a nation of accountability again, or we can't
fix it. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right. We have so much to talk about tonight.
We'll be bad.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Are you suggesting you think the Biden administration, which was
responsible for Trump's security, allowed this to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It's not outside their own possibility. It's just not.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
And the people who are in charge of protecting Donald
Trump's life have not answered the questions. They haven't been
held to account pretty obviously never will be. It does
feel like there's no recourse, like they can just murder
a guy or allow his murder and the rest of
us just have to sit there and be like, Yeah,
that's kind of how it goes, like, that's not the
country you want to live in at all.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's not the country it was five years ago. What
is this? What is this? It's actually a really great
way to put that. Where are we now? Joining me now,
my friend Jack Pasobic, author of the book Unhumans, some
really wonderful communist history. That book highly highly recommended. Jack Well,
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Kim Cheedoh resigns. I'm sure she's gonna nance her way
into some sweetheard Corporate America deal making a half million
a years, so it's not as if she's gonna have
any kind of accountability at all. But what kind of
country do we have now, Jack.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Well, Jesse, It's very clear and anyone you know, like
with a brain or who has the ability to read
words on paper, that you would understand that something has
gone very, very wrong and awry in our country. Let's
just take the events beyond the assassination attempt and look
at the fact that just eight days later, eight days later,
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the Democrat Party and their leaders decided that the President
of United States shouldn't be the nominee anymore so, rather
than going in and asking him or going to their
voters and asking them who they thought should be the
new nominee. They just decided to take all of his
delegates away and assign them to someone else, and take
all of the money away that had been given to
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one candidate and hand it to another one. And meanwhile,
all the prosecutors and investigators who had a really big
problem with Donald Trump going through his lawyer to sign
a legal settlement with Stormy Daniels and that became a
massive felony. They don't seem at all interested in this massive,
hundreds of millions of dollars, a fraud that's being perpetuated
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before our very eyes.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
We're witnessing a palace coup. This is what they did
to Krusehov.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Now we're living under a new type of system, and
you might as well call it an irregular communist revolution,
a revolutionary regime that's taken over our government, and it's
done so slowly by drips and drabs.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You could say it started in the forties. You could
say it started in the fifties.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
People have different people have different and debatable opinions on when.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Exactly it started. But it's here. It's here now.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
People like Senator Joseph McCarthy were ringing the bell all
the way back in the nineteen fifties that this was
coming started in the State Department, it moved on administration
to administration, institution after institution, and slowly crept his way.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Walt Disney warned us that they were creeping up through.
Speaker 10 (16:08):
Hollywood, getting in through the labor unions, et cetera, et cetera,
and now we're living under it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
This is the system under which we live.
Speaker 10 (16:16):
It is cultural Marxism, a cultural Marxist, neo Bolshevik regime.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Which brings me to you know, you mentioned the assassination attempt. Jack.
We're sitting around waiting for the report on what happened.
Was it a lone gunman or whatever else they're going
to tell us. But the report, Jack, is going to
come from the FBI, the same organization that attacked inspired
on Donald Trump in his first campaign, did everything they
(16:44):
could do to destroy his presidency from within, arrested pro lifers,
school board moms, January sixth ers who were peaceful. This
is the organization we're going to rely on to tell
us the real skinny, the real truth on what happened
in the assassination attempt, That.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Right exactly so the people, by the way, who even
FBI directory, the same guy just had to admit yesterday
that his own employees were say expressing publicly the opinion
that they wish that the assassin hadn't met had missed that.
These are the type of people that are going to
be conducting the investigations all of it, and yeah, we
(17:22):
should totally trust them and totally trust their findings. By
the way, the same situation where you know, where are
the press conferences, where are the crime scene investigators that
are telling us what's going on? You know, I'm from
the Philadelphia area. Whenever we have one of our mass shootings,
you get it. You get an update, you get an update.
(17:42):
Ready regularly get more updates from like local fires than
we have on this thing. You have the FBI guys
there is telling you what happened, the sheriff, the local
police are there. No, we're not getting any of those.
We're getting conflicting stories, conflicting information. When you ask basic questions,
hey was this iron sight? Was there an eotech? Was
there a scope? And the FBI director says, we don't
(18:03):
what do you mean, you don't know the guns right there.
These are basic questions of ballistics. Was the gun they're
the only one that fired? There were eight shell casings? Great,
so can you confirm that there were only eight shots fired?
Couldn't give you an answer. Again, these are very basic
questions that they're not asking.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
They're not giving us the answers to.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
And more importantly, the questions about the massive gaping Swiss
cheese holes in the security around the president have never
once been given a cursory or satisfactory answer. I think
to anyone where you've got five foot three women that
are attempting to block bullets from a six foot three
(18:42):
former president and presidential candidate, Well, I'm I'm sorry to
all the girl bosses out there, but physics are physics,
and if you're five to three, you're not going to
be able to do much of protection to him at
all because he's a foot taller than you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Jack accountability or lack their of what's the connection there
from these dirtball former Kami regimes like the ones you
write about. What's the link between lack of accountability and
how these people run things? Well, it's very simple.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
With lack of accountability that's how you get the Bolsheviks.
At one point, the Bolsheviks were pretty much just a
couple one hundred guys in like one building in Moscow
or in Petrograd, Saint Petersburg what was called at the time,
and the military law enforcement, anyone could have just gone
in and arrested them during the revolution and said, no,
you guys actually aren't going to take over the government.
You're not going to take over the country. We're going
(19:33):
to nip this thing in the bud. But if you
don't do anything, if you don't actually provide reciprocity, if
you don't actually provide real accountability, and accountability does not
mean oh we published mean tweets and we got some
clips up that are getting retweeted, and we're all getting
donations for our campaign coffers in the election year, and
oh we're actually gonna do something. No, if these people
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are still in power, if Chris Ray is still in power,
then you have not achieved accountability. We've got a bunch
of clips up on social media. Then guess what you
haven't achieved accountability. Accountability comes when people are behind bars.
This will not stop, and I'm going to keep saying
it till I'm blue in the face and I've got
By the way, the entire media is going after JD.
Vance right now because he endorsed the book. But this
is the main thing we explain. It's about actually using
(20:18):
the power of law and order on the other side
and making them feel the same thing that we have
all felt for the last decade.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Once you do that.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
And by the way, this started with Denesh Desuza when
they were throwing him in jail for making movies about
Barack Obama that the Obama administration didn't like. Don't tell
me that we started the law fair stuff. No, you
guys did. And until we actually see high level democrats
behind bars, none of this is going away.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
One hundred percent true, Jack, my brother, as always, thank you.
The book is on humans, go pick it up. Iighly
recommend it. It's an outstanding book. Something I echo. I
want to talk about accountability. I've said you will know
the country is on its way to being fixed when
government people, lots of them, start going to prison. I
(21:08):
don't mean one random Republican that they persecuted. Government people
being arrested, tried, and imprisoned for what they've done. That
includes FBI agents, politicians. Once that starts happening, you'll know
that we're accountable again and we're on our way to
fixing things. All right, we have more hang on it.
(21:42):
We must have a reckoning, and you can call it vengeance.
That's fine. I'm not going to lie to you. I
do want vengeance, there's no question about that. But for
the good of the country, for the sake of Western society,
we must have people put on trial. People must go
to prison for this. They must. People have to lose
their livelihoods, They have to lose every thing because they
took everything away from others. They must watch their colleagues
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lose everything over lies so they don't tell those same
lies again another time. There must be a reckoning. It
must happen, It must be severe, and it must be public. Well,
I'm not holding my breath that we're ever going to
have one of those, and it's certainly not one like
I want to see. I wonder if we are getting
one in different ways, maybe even worse ways. Joining me now,
(22:27):
the great doctor j. Batacharia has joined us many times.
Professor Stanford School of Medicine, one of the good ones
who was right about this from the very very beginning, doctor,
j I know we're not gonna have trials. I know,
no one's going to prison. I'm not naive. I get that,
But what effects have we seen? Have we seen downstream effects?
Is it just loss of trust and institutions? Is that
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really the only reckoning we're going to get?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
We certainly have that, Jesse, There's no question, And I
think I want to be constructive.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, that's just I mean, that's just the way
I guess.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I have no other way to be and I want
And so the question is like, what do you do
with that lack of trust? And it's in a way
it's healthy that it exists, because the people that we
put our trust in didn't deserve that trust, you know,
people like Tony Fauci, And so I think the constructive
thing to do is to is to build on that.
I mean, I still, Jesse, believe that public health is important.
(23:24):
You know, clean water, sanitation, you know, there are lots
and lots of things that public health does I think
are important, and so we have to refocus and restructure
public health so that it actually serves the public. We
don't want to have a few commissars basically decide our lives.
That can close our schools, close our businesses, close our
(23:46):
ability to go to church, to force our children to
mask with absolutely no scientific evidence. And I think, you
know this is now I was naive in some sense
for early I thought that we as a scientific committee
could come together, But now I realize what it's going
to take is going to take concerted political action for
that kind of reform. And it has to be part
of the political uh the political environment where where uh
(24:10):
that that lack of trust is permitted to have a
sort of like a reality come come forward, you know,
in the political political setting.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And I'm still hopeful that we can get that. Okay,
how do we get that? Because traditionally the only way
to earn trust back once it's been violated is open honesty, accountability,
even punishment from time to time. Are we anticipating that,
because without that, how do we get it back?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I mean, I think for one thing is that the
people who head up public health there needs to be
a new generation of leaders. I mean they cannot be
the same generational leaders that failed, and that generational leadership
start with a abject to pology to the public because
we failed the public. We absolutely failed the public. And
then and then we can start with a con diructive
program of the regulatory agencies that govern public health. What
(25:06):
was the basic fundamental problem they had? I think there's
I think there's two. One is lack of transparency with
the public and then decent there and the centralization of power.
You have to solve both of those problems at the FDA,
at the CDC, at the NIH. You have to involve
the public much more so that there's that scientists and
(25:28):
public health officials can't just imperiously rule over the public.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And I think those both of those things have to happen.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
A you have to have an honest apology from because
we did we we really failed the public. And then
we have to then then start to say what was
really fund The reason why is because you had people
in power like Tony Fachi for forty years with way
too much power over what the scientific community thought public health,
with far too much power, with no checks and balances.
(25:57):
It's I think the idea of America, which is, you know,
checks and balances, the rule of law. No one no
one has, no one as above, no one can can
like garner part of them, no one as king if
we put back the idea of America into public health.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's how we gain trust back. Let's talk about social
distancing and how these lies turn into rules that this
video is always bothering me here. It is.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
The initial recommendation that the CDC brought to the White House,
and I talk about this was ten feet, and a
political appointing in a White House said, we can't recommend
ten feet. Nobody can measure ten feet. It's inoperable. Society
will shut down. So the compromise was around six.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So it's it's while watching how these people discuss these
things now, as if they're kind of unimportant, just little guidelines.
They all do this falluci does it. They all do
it as if it's well, we had to decide and
we couldn't decide here, and it really wasn't a big deal.
But these things destroyed lives, These things altered lies, probably
(27:03):
ended lies, if we're being honest about it. And yet
all the people who did these things are just so
flippant about it. Now. It drives me up the wall.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It does me too, I mean, it drives me crazy.
I mean to think about this because there was no
science behind the distance, none, Right, if this is a
virus that's spreads by aerosols, Jesse, You don't. You could
be five million feet from me if we just happen
to be in the same you know, you breathe in
the same room, and then I later, a month later,
a week later, come in that same room, I could
(27:33):
get the virus from you. Right, So the six foot
distancing made absolutely no sense. There was no science behind it,
and yet and you're absolutely right, what it did is
it crushed our society. Schools could not open with desks
six feet apart, because how many kids can you fit
in a room with if you have all on um
to say, six feet apart. We essentially told, we, meaning
public health, told the world that we should treat our
(27:54):
neighbor as biohazards, fundamentally violating our ethical principles that we
have to treat each other as a human beings, to
that that that we care and love for each other.
I love our neighbor as ourselves, right, No, but instead
you treat your neighbor as a biohazard. That's what that
six feet meant, And there was no science behind it,
and it's it's it's powerful. The kinds of things tools
(28:16):
that public health has as its disposal Jesse, right, we
it can hijack our basic human empathy and turn us
against each other, and so it absolutely needs checks and
balances at it's center. It's one of these things where
like I do still believe in the necessity of public health,
has said sanitation, a whole bunch of things that public
health does that keeps us healthier. But it should be
(28:38):
consistent with our values, our fundamental values of liberty, fundamental
values of good government, of governance that doesn't impose on us.
The public health should never have ruled on us. They
should always be a servant of the people, and it
was the opposite during the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Doctor, how does you say this was not based on science?
But how does something that's not based on science become
so accepted in the highest levels of science and then
after that they become public policy? Meaning what's the genesis
of all this? Where did all this began? Is it
some dirty human being who wants to destroy society just
(29:18):
comes up with a number and decides to pass it along.
That doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand how
crazy concepts not based in science become the rule for
a country of three hundred and thirty million people.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Can you explain that process to me? Yeah, I'll try, Jesse.
I wish I had a full answer, because I don't
have a full answer. But I'll tell you what I think.
I don't think it's a single one person, you know,
doctor evil or whatever. I think what happens is that
you have an event, you have really a catastrophic event,
like you have a virus that is spreading around, very
(29:51):
likely as a result of dangerous scientific experiments.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Right, And if you're let me do an analogy. Right.
So I was a medical student once.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I was a third year medical student once since the
year when you first start to see patients, and as
a third year medical student, you often don't know a lot,
and you have a patient in front of you who
are asking you important questions about their health. And as
a third year medical student, you have to resist the
urge to lie about what you know in order to
make the patient happy. Right, Because you want to be
honest with the patient, you have to learn to say, Okay,
(30:21):
I don't know to the patient, and I'll go try
to find out. I'll try to figure out what the
right answer is. I'll go ask other people who know more.
But a lot of third year medical students have difficulty
with that. They pretend to knowledge they don't have. That's
what happened during this pandemic with some of the very
highest people in public health. They had no idea about
the harms that they're not. They're not in a sense.
You saw Francis Collins, the head of the ni AH,
(30:43):
give it a talk where he says, look, I was
just I just cared about COVID.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I wasn't thinking about all the harms to the children,
to the poor people, to the working class from these
things because it wasn't my job right, and that means
that that person should not have been in charge of
those decisions. We need people there to understand how societies
actually work like that, to to care about the poorest
people in the society, to care about our children. And
(31:09):
the way that you'd get that is by radical decentralization
and radical a radical sort of democratization, if you will,
of public health. It's too imperious and it's it's not
it's not consistent with American values. That's why I think,
I like, I think the idea of America, you know that,
which is this idea of of you know, we are
we are all essentially rulers of this country. We are
(31:33):
all we have the checks and balances, The government has
limited set of powers. I think that idea would make
public health better. And I think the problem is that
public health thinks is of itself essentially, has thought of
itself essentially as rulers, as kings and without And if
you anyone, anyone inside the scientific community that pushes back,
(31:53):
I mean, you get destroyed. I can tell you from
firsthand experience. And the other thing I'd say is that
once you have this fear, all these other entity start
piling on. You get like pharmaceutical companies like taking advantage.
You get like all these other people with like their
own agendas taking advantage of it. I think it's that
mix of like people pretending you knowledge they didn't have,
creating panic, and then a whole bunch of like opportunistic
(32:14):
nonsense happening.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What is that doctor, you're you're a doctor, I'm not.
Just as we wrap this up here, is that is
that our doctor is more inclined towards arrogance. Not that
I'm blasting away at doctors, but you are more educated
than most people. You know, a lot of things that
a lot of people know or is it an arrogance thing?
Is that what it is?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
It's a kind of God complex it is. It's arrogance
is the right word for it, right, you know? And
I think it's it's public health that during the pandemic
kind of had this. They thought that they could control
the minutest actions of society and they and you know,
no one can, No one has that knowledge, no one
has that right. And I think we need changes in
(32:55):
our public health structures, laws. You know, everyone should ask
their the guy running for dogcatcher, would they ever lock
down again? Like you know, from the top to the
bottom of our political structures. We should the political the
folks we elect should know that we won't stand for it,
and we won't elect them if they if they are
going to violate our rights in that way, and they
(33:16):
should be asked that every single time, in every single
election until until finally that we have the laws and
place that prevent from happening again.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I think that it's going to take concerted political action.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I thought naively early on that it would just be
scientists could fix this, but I don't anymore, Jesse, and
I think it's going to take a real political action
to fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah. I think you're right, doctor Jake, Doctor, you are
the best of my brother. Come back soon please. All right, Well,
it's not just the medical community that lacks accountability. The
military is in bad, bad shape when it comes to this.
We're going to talk about that. Next. What what of
(34:10):
American blowdown?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Everybody?
Speaker 6 (34:15):
I want to talk about two things.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
First, Afghanistan. Wow that every time I watch videos of
Generals Biden, Kamala Harris after Afghanistan, it just makes my
blood pressure go through the roof. They were all so
just kind of flippant and uncaring about the whole freaking thing.
(34:38):
Joining me now, Brad Miller, retired colonel US Army. Kate
Monroe retired to retired United States Marine Corps. What I'm
talking about sempify all right, Brad, let's begin with you.
It wasn't funny. It was aggravating beyond belief to watch
them put our people in harm's way, watch our young
men and women die, and then watch what we did
(34:59):
in respect responds to that. And what blew me away
was not necessarily the dirtball politicians, but the generals. Where
are the resignations. Where are the people resigning and disgrace?
Where are they? It's a great question.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
I think the key word here is accountability, and that
there has been none. So I think you raised a
great question is that how can Americans, whether they are
service members, whether they are veterans, whether they're the family
of service members or veterans, or whether just Americans in general,
how can Americans look at our generals and our admirals
and actually think that these individuals are making the best
(35:34):
decisions for our military and for our national interests.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Apparently, I don't know what happens once you get a
star put on your shoulders anymore. Kate, You know what
I remember I talked about this at the beginning of
the show. As a very young, very average marine, accountability
was everything for us. If you didn't have enough socks
in your pack, you were held accountable for it. If
one of your guys didn't have his toothbrush in order,
you were held accountable for it. That's what it's like
(36:01):
for the men and women on the ground. But apparently
once you get promoted above six, that just goes away. Now, yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Mean, apparently you can be in American politics and be
all the way up in the White House and have
no accountability. It's not just Afghanistan. Look at the border,
look at homeless as looks. Look what has happened to
veterans on account of all these migrants, Look at the assassination.
No one wants to take any accountability, period And it's
an epidemic that we have in our leadership here in
(36:29):
our country.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
No doubt. I remember when John Kirby, Brad Remember when
John Kirby got up he said this after we've drowne
strike six children.
Speaker 12 (36:40):
What I can tell you is we looked at this
thing very, very comprehensively, and again we acknowledge that there
were procedural breakdowns, processes were not executed the way they
should have been, but it doesn't necessarily indicate that an
individual or individuals have to be held to account for that.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
But look, this is more discipline inside the Pentagon at all.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I mean, maybe they're no charge just brought up, but
is anyone demoted or disciplined for what happened?
Speaker 12 (37:03):
Then what we are going to do. There's not going
to be individual discipline as a result of this, really,
but what we are going to do is learn from
this and We're going to enact and improve our procedures
in our processes to try to make sure this doesn't
happen again.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
We're going to learn from this like a child eating
paste in preschool. What does that mean exactly, Brad, a
failure of process. But nobody's getting fired or reprimanded. Who
is process? Can we meet him? So here's what that means.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
That is a euphemism for we are going to do nothing,
but we are going to tell you that we are
going to do something to improve our processes. I mean,
this is just extremely wishy washy language. As he said,
there will be no personal discipline.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Accountability can look a lot of different ways depending on
the offense that has been committed. So of course there
can be charges that are filed, but there are other
ways in which discipline can be achieved that don't necessarily
result in criminal charges.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
The problem is when you know nothing is done.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
So I think at the outset you mentioned that I
was a retired colonel. I actually resigned as a lieutenant colonel,
but I spent nineteen years in the army, and before that,
you know, four years at West Point, and just like
you mentioned a couple of minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Accountability was everything. I mean, that was.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Something that I learned very early on in my first
days as a cadet at west Point. But somewhere along
the way, as an institution, we have completely abandoned the
necessity or the practice of accountability.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I can't believe they ruined west Point too. What a
freaking revered place. What was it like at west Point?
Was it cool? I could never have gotten in or
been an officer at all, because I'm not smart enough.
But was it cool being there? I'll tell you this.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
And I don't know how I got in. There's probably
some other Brad Miller out there and they accidentally, you know,
sent me the acceptance letter that was meant for him.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
But I will tell you this. So I was in
my junior year at.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
West Point when nine to eleven occurred, and so as
great as an institution as the institution was before nine
to eleven, that place changed from one day to the
next at nine to eleven, because even though it was
a revered institution, don't get me wrong, but on nine
to eleven, everything that we were doing became so much
more real, right, and everyone knew.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I mean, by nine to twelve.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
We all knew that we were going to graduate and
we were all going to go to war, and of
course that happened. You know, I graduated in two thousand
and three, all my classmates, myself, I mean, we all
went to war. It was just what was going to
happen at that time period. And so what happens now
when we look back twenty years later and we look
at where our military has been over the last two decades,
and we just had to ask ourselves, what has happened
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to our institution and why are the individuals who are
at the top of the institution allowing it to just
go down the drain or perhaps driving it down the
drain deliberately.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I remember, like it was yesterday watching that in the
barracks room, and it did. It became real in that moment.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Kay.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
We have a recruiting problem, a huge recruiting problem. And
if you break it down demographically, it's white rural males
who are not joining anymore. The other recruiting number is
actually fairly stable. But that's been a huge chunk of
the American military and they're checking out Kate, and once again,
there's no accountability for this. Nobody's owning up to it,
and I talked to these officers. I get all kinds
(40:14):
of private info from guys who were in. They're not
even discussing the real reasons why people aren't joining. It's
not even on the table for discussion.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
Well, there's so many reasons. I've actually written many op
eds about it. I talked to Admiral X Walker, in
charge of you naval recruiting. There's many reasons, but lack
of patriotism being one of them. There is also a
high level of assaults in my generation. I was assaulted
when I was in the Marine Corps, and then a
lot of those things are never taken care of either VA.
So you have a whole generation of parents telling their kids, hey,
(40:45):
you're not safe in the military. You also just have
a bunch of DEI and wokeism and liberalism that has
crept into these institutions, and these kids don't want to serve.
And it's interesting to note that the Marine Corps is
not having a recruiting crisis. Have they slipped a little
bit of their sprit de corps? Certainly they have, but
they have maintained most of it. And you will see
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kids that normally would go into the Air Force, into
the Army, into the Navy, going into the Marine Corps,
because that is what they're looking for to be in
the real military. That's why I think the Marines are
leading the charge on recruiting. But we're sort of at
an event horizon here. If we don't turn back and
fix this is a very scary situation.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It really is, Brad Kate, both of you. Appreciate you
very much. Thank you. Guys. All Right, we're not done.
Let's still have a little bit more I got. We
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have to get back to being a country that's accountable.
We the voters have to be better about holding our
politicians accountable. The politicians we elect have to be better
about holding bureaucrats accountable. We have to get back to
being a country where you own your mistakes, admit your mistakes,
(42:11):
even take punishment for your mistakes. Otherwise we become a
nation that is just built onlies. That's why they lie
about everything. Now, and we can't go on like this
at all. Let's dig in and get back to where
we should be. We'll do it again
Host
Jesse Kelly
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