September 13, 2024 • 42 mins
Back in 2016, Hillary Clinton branded Donald Trump as a puppet for Putin, and the rest was history. The entirety of Trump's first term as president was littered with investigations and accusations, all tracing back to the Barack Obama administration. Once the first narrative flamed out, the system claimed that Hunter Biden's now-verified laptop was Russian Disinformation. This hoax was perpetuated by the intelligence community, media and even the sitting President of the United States. Now, the DOJ has concocted a new narrative just in time for 2024.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Well, I guess it's election season. You know how I
can tell it's election season. It's not all the bumper
stickers and all the yard signs and the TV commercials.
You can't even log into something on your phone without
getting bludgeoned by it. That's not how I can tell
its election season. I can tell it's election season because
Russia's back in the news.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Russia remains a predominant foreign threat to our elections.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Russian attempts to interfere in our elections and influence our society.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
The schemes I have just discussed may clear the ends
to which the Russian government, including at its highest levels,
is willing to go to undermine our democratic process.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh my gosh, I guess it's election year because Democrats
are one once again talking about Russia, and so I
thought it would be helpful as we open up the
show to discuss why your liberal AMT. Pagy lives in
a world of make believe. We talk about that all
the time. How the Communist in your life. They believe
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things that simply are not true. They know things that
are not true. But how does that happen? Well, the
world of make believe? Your liberal AMT. Pegy lives in
was constructed for her, and you can go back. We
have all the video, we have all the stories there
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to explain how and why they constructed that world, the
whole Russia stuff. It goes really back to Hillary Clinton.
Now I need to pause for a moment, and I
need to explain something before I play this little clip
of Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is not starting the Russian
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collusion op that so many liberals believe today. She's not
starting at when you look at this video clip, what
she's doing is she's putting a little bow on it.
You see, Before Hillary Clinton stood on the stage and
accused Donald Trump of being a Russian agent, or however
she puts it, Hillary Clinton had already begun working behind
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the scenes. She was the Democrat nominee, Donald Trump was
the Republican nominee. Hillary Clinton, she hired a foreign intelligence agent,
Christopher Steele was his name. She hired a known liar,
Christopher Steele, and she had him put together a dossier,
a dossier that made Donald Trump look like he was
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compromised by the Russians, had done dirty things with the Russians.
And we know now, keep in mind, we know that
all this was false. Christopher Steele made this up. He
had dirty sources. All this was false. But she had
already works behind the scenes to create this illusion, a
dirt file, if you will, a false dirt file about
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Donald Trump. After she'd already worked to create that file,
got that file in the hands of the FBI. Then
she stood on the stage and said this.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We have never in the history of our country been
in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power is
working so hard to influence the outcome of the election.
And believe me, they're not doing it to get me elected.
They're doing it to try to influence the election for
Donald Trump. Now, maybe because he has praised Putin, Maybe
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because he says he agrees with a lot of what
Putin wants to do. Maybe because he wants to do
business in Moscow. I don't know the reasons, but we
deserve answers.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We deserve answers. How compromised is this guy. This is
from the lady who already had the Russian collusion in
the works. She went on television and tied a nice
little bow on it and handed it to your liberal
and pegy who took that false story and began to
run with it, and of course after they began to
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run with it, after Hillary Clinton put the public bow
on it and put that word out, after the Hive
Mind decided that's how they wanted every Democrat drone in
the country talking well, the left wing pundits, the left
wing politicians. They did as they always do. They got
their programming update from the Hive Mind, and then they
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ran to social media, television and everywhere else to disseminate
the false information. There is circumstantial evidence of collusion.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's super obvious already.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He is a Russian asset. He is clearly a Russian asset.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
The president is acting like he is the asset for Russia.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Back then, my biggest fear was we had elected an
asset of the Russian government who would sell out America
at every opportunity just to save his own hide. My
biggest fear now is that I was right.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Do you still believe the president could be a Russian asset?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think it's possible.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
It is a possibility, and I would add to that
caveat that whether winning or unwinning, And that is a
really painful thing to say.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It hurts me to say it, but probably a Russian asset. Again,
all of this was created by Hillary Clinton's campaign, voiced
by Hillary Clinton, Democrat politicians, pundits ran to the television
Russian Asset, Russian Asset, Russian asset. And this entire time,
your liberal and Paggy is having the world of make
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believe constructed for her. Think of it like a construction
project where they're building her false world. Slowly but surely.
They're putting in the landscaping the buildings. They have the
foundation down, Russia, Russia, Russia, programming her over and over
and over again. They completed the Russian collusion fake world
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for her. Then that world was made ready for her,
ready for them to use against her whenever something came up.
And now they can use it and do use it
all the time. Remember Hunter Biden's laptop. The FBI gets possessioned.
They get a laptop turned into them by a private
citizen who says, hey, this laptop is now mine. There
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are dirty felonies on here courtesy of Hunter Biden. The
Federal Bureau of Investigation takes the laptop and hit it.
They didn't dig into it, they didn't try to expose it,
and then they illegally used a wiretap on Rudy Giuliani
to find out that the media of The New York
Post was getting ready to publicize a story about the
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Russian laptop, about the Hunter Biden laptop. I'm sorry, the
Hunter Biden laptop. And so what do they do? What
can you possibly use? How do you shoot down this
very damaging story to Joe Biden? Well, Mark Zuckerberg said
it pretty clearly. What did the FBI say to him
when they knocked on the door of Facebook.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
The FBI, I think basically came to us some folks
on our team. It was like, hey, just so you know,
like you should be on high alert. There was we
thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in
the twenty sixteen election. We have it on notice that
basically there's about to be some kind of dump of
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that's similar to that, So just be vigilant.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You see how Zuckerberg and all the other COMI drones
at Facebook had been programmed with the world of make believe,
and so it was easy for them to buy into
the FBI lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian collusion.
FBI knocked on the doors set as Russian collusion. These
drones had been programmed in the world of make believe
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to see Russians under the bed everywhere. They naturally believed
it right away and promptly censored the story. Twitters censored
the New York Post Twitter account for posting an accurate
story because it had to be the Russians, right, This
is this is how they operate. And the media, of course,
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knowing that Liberal and Pegy had had the world of
make believe, the Russian world of make believe, created for her.
They know she had already been programmed, She had already
been conditioned to believe everything was Russian. And so they
ran to the media, or they ran to their microphones,
and they told your liberal m Peggy, this Biden's secret
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emails a really fishy story. The Post claimed that the
emails were found on a laptop computer that was brought
to a repair shop in Delaware in the spring of
twenty nineteen. The FBI is now investigating whether those alleged
hunter Buy emails are actually connected to a larger foreign
intelligence operation. They may be related to a foreign intelligence operation,
foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Foreign intelligent foreign intelligence, foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
For all we know, these emails.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Are made up.
Speaker 10 (09:03):
The information found on the laptop may be part of
a Russian disinformation campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Part of a Russian disinformation.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Effort described by many intelligence experts as having hallmarks, all
the hallmarks, rather all the hallmarks of a Russian for
Russian Russian disinformation Russian disinformation disinformation campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
This is a classic example of the right wing media
machine you see as liberal and Pegy sat and watched
that what you saw was lies. What she saw was
simply affirmation of what she already knew about her world,
the world that had been constructed for her, a world
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where the right wingers, the Republicans Donald Trump in particular,
had partnered with Vladimir Putin and the evil Russian government
to try to adjust alter cheat in American elections. And
as soon as the media FBI told told her that
it was the Russians doing it, she had been so
programmed by the hive mind that she just simply naturally
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believed it. And now we have a population I don't
know the percentages. I guess we'll find out in November.
We have a population of voters on the left who
have been programmed that way now, and Democrats communists are
smart enough to use that program. They know their base
believes in this Russian Russian collusion narrative. They've been programmed
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for years for it, and so a shoot right away,
Democrats in this selection began planting those seeds.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
What does he have on Donald Trump that he had
to constantly be catering to Putin, telling Putin go into
these countries?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And why is Donald Trump so enamored of Putin? Well,
part of it is he don't want to be dictator.
Speaker 10 (10:54):
Not only is there no evidence of any wrongdoing by
President Biden, but it now appears as if the House
Republican majority is being used by Russia to interfere in
the twenty twenty four election on behalf of Donald Trump.
If they continue with this investigation, they are simply doing
the work of Vladimir Putin to help Donald Trump win
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an election in November. That's where we are.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Your liberal and Pegy sees that it's again affirmation of
what she already knows, the world of make believe, the
world of lies she's been programmed with. She sees things
like that, and she gets herself ready for more of it.
And then out of the blue just happened recently, the
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DOJ in conjunction with the FBI had a press conference
announcing that they had uncovered some dastardly Russian involvement in
the election millions of dollars right wingers. The media grabbed
it ran with it. And I'll give you this little
tidbit here. I have sources myself. It's weird to say,
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but I have sources myself, sources inside the belly of
the beast. The DOJ slash FBI rolled out the latest
Russian indictments for early voting. It's not designed to help
the election. And here's one for you. Did you know
there are more coming? They didn't want to do them
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all at once, so there will be more indictments coming
for right wingers for taking Russian money. Let's see how
many on our side are dumb enough to fall for it.
I know for a fact liberal at Peggy will fall
for it. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right. Lee Smith is going to join us.
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He knows all about the first Russian hoax. Let's dig
into that with him. Hang on.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.
They spied at my campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There's no real evidence of that.
Speaker 11 (13:26):
Of course there is. It's all over the place, Leslie,
they spied of my campaign and they got.
Speaker 9 (13:31):
Can I say something?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, this is sixty minutes and we can't put
on things we can't.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
Verify it on because it's bad for Biden.
Speaker 9 (13:39):
We can't put on things we can't.
Speaker 11 (13:41):
Very Leslie, they spy to my campaign, It's fine, totally verified,
it's been Just go down and get the papers. They
spied on my campaign. They got caught. No, and then
they went much further than that, and they got caught.
And you will see that, Leslie, and you know that,
but you just don't want to normally, as a matter
of fact, I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Look at that apparatchic sit there and argue with Donald Trump.
He was right. I should know it's undeniable. All the
evidence is there now it's all been exposed, Leslie Stahl
was lying. Trump was right. And that's how it works
in this country. Joining me now, my friend Lee Smith,
and wonderful author. I read everything he writes. He has
a new book out I should note, called Disappearing the President.
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You might want to pick that one up. Okay, Lee,
Let's pretend like people forget, because people do forget. There
are so many scandals and so many new things all
the freaking time. Can you explain for those of us
who forget, how did the whole FBI spying on Trump begin?
What happened at the beginning, How did all this start?
Speaker 12 (14:47):
Well, you know, Jesse, something very important that we forget
all the time, which I want to highlight, is that, Well,
first of all, I have to say, I'm thinking about
something that you tweeted the other day when you were
talking about this centrality of Barack Obama, and I looked
at that what you tweeted, and I'm like, yay, thank you,
Jesse Kelly for saying this. Because I hear deep state,
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I hear administrative state, I hear managerial class, I hear
the blob, I hear everything, and all of these abstractions
make it much harder for us to deal with what's
really going on and has been going on since at
least twenty sixteen, and that's Barack Obama. And the person
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who identified that first was none other than Donald Trump
in in March twenty seventeen tweet I'm talking about Russigate
here when he said, Wow, just found out Obama had
my phone's tap at Trump Tower, and everyone said, that's outrageous,
that's crazy, that makes no sense. But of course that's
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actually what happened. Did he precisely have his wires tap
or his phone's tap? Was the you know, do we
still use that language now? No, it was a Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant on the Trump circle, right, So
that's precisely what happened. And so I think that's where
we have to start. We have to start by remembering
that all of these people, all of the spy chiefs
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involved in this, were Barack Obama spy chiefs.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So I'm so.
Speaker 12 (16:17):
Glad to get a chance because I was going to
tweet or I was going to text you and say
thank you, Jesse, God bless you for bringing that up.
But that's actually also a major part of this book,
Disappearing the President.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We don't have.
Speaker 12 (16:31):
Pre orders available yet, but we will soon. But to
talk about the role of Barack Obama, and it starts
Donald Trump is the first person to identify it with
that tweet, how.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Did we get you? One hundred percent? Right? And I
want people to get it, But how did we get
from Barack Obama has poisonous intel guys to the Steele dossier?
From Hillary Clinton? Connect those roles for me Lea Well.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I mean the Steele dossier.
Speaker 12 (16:59):
This, this is something there's a basic misunderstanding about this,
right because when Christopher Steele came out, he was described
as this, you know, British super spy, right that that's
how important he that's that's that's what a great man
he was. That he'd found and of course less than
a month he'd found this incredible secret relationship between Donald
Trump and the Kremlin, Right, that was the story. Nothing
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of this sort happened. The way to understand Christopher Christopher
Steele is he was an FBI informant, right, That's who
Steel was. He had one time worked for British intelligence,
but he also worked for Russian oligarchs based in London.
Steele was a confidential informant, that's who.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's who was hired, right.
Speaker 12 (17:42):
The Clinton campaign hired an FBI confidential informant to do
the Steel dossier.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Right.
Speaker 12 (17:50):
So again this is important to keep in mind. At
the time, we were surprised to see in twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen, we were surprised to see, oh my goodness,
the Clinton campaign paid for this. It must be all
about them, Hillary Clinton. That the campaign paid for it
is very important. But something again that we must not
forget it's so crucial, is that all of these spy
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chiefs were working for Barack Obama, and Barack Obama was
in fact read into Russia Gate, the anti Trump plot.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Right.
Speaker 12 (18:21):
John Brennan tells us this in his handwritten notes, that
Barack Obama was aware of what the Clinton campaign was
doing by vilifying Donald Trump as a Russian agent. So, Jesse,
I just think it's so important now looking at the
Steele dossier and looking at other things that have happened
since then, whether it's the Special Council investigation, the Malor investigation,
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whether it's the whether it's the impeachments of Donald Trump,
whether it's January sixth, whether it's these various cases against
Donald Trump. The DOJ case, is the Fulton County case, right,
the the Alvin Bragg case in Manhattan. It's really important
for us to see these as all instruments of the
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Barack Obama faction, which is the way to think about
what's happened here since at least twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Lee, can you explain why Russia and obviously, as we've
talked about, as you know, as I know, everything ties
back to that dirty communist Obama getting in the government,
running out anyone remotely normal, and filling up the government
with maoists. But why Russia? Where did this come from?
Speaker 12 (19:36):
I mean, I think a lot of it has to
do with I think it's a perhaps a Cold War habit, right.
One of the surprising things which I believe that you've
remarked on Jesse's as much as anyone. It's like, so,
since when does the left have problems with Russia?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Right?
Speaker 12 (19:51):
I mean, we know that this was one of our
core problems during the course of the Cold War, the
left's adoration of the Soviet Union. So I think this
was one of the threads. I think that that's one
of the reasons that they looked at Russia. There were
other there were other reasons too. There were an intelligence
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intelligence service problems with the Russians right dating back to
Ukraine in twenty fourteen, So this is another issue. But
I also think that this is one of the major tells, right,
because as I've described frequently, there is no American president
who's been more pro Moscow than Barack Obama.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
Whether this was whether this is what happened whether this
was Eastern Europe with Ukraine and Russia, or whether this
was the Middle East, especially Syria. Let's remember what Barack
Obama did in order to preserve the Iran nuclear deal.
He got the Syrian regime of bisharl Asset to turn
over to turn over his unconventional weapons to Vladimir Putin.
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This was Putin helping out Obama. And no one will
ever forget the line that Obama whispered to Dmitri Medvedev,
tell lad that after the next election, I'll have more flexibility.
So the idea this should have been a tell for
people inside of Washington, but of course, of course it
was not. But the fact how close Barack Obama was
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to Putin, how close he was to Moscow. The idea
that the same people who were describing Obama's closeness to
Moscow and how this was a good thing in Syria
turned around. The same sources turned around and said, oh,
look at for Donald Trump. He has all these ties
to Vladimir Putin, So that that should have been a tell.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well, tell me about this book disappearing the president.
Speaker 12 (21:47):
Well, I mean this is this is really you know
what we do is here? What the story, what the
story I'm telling is it starts off with it starts
off with Russiagate, and it comes to the president. It
shows the you know you see on the cover of
the one of the iconic photographs of President Trump standing
up at the Butler rally. But it really goes through
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this real attack on Donald Trump on the country. And again,
I think one of the most crucial parts of one
of the most crucial parts of the book is it
shows what Barack Obama did from twenty sixteen to the president,
again reminding people of Barack Obama's hand in this It's
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not a mystery of what's going on. It's not a
mystery that Joe Biden was an avatar. We talk about
who's running the government now, Well, this was a question
that most of us have been asking since Joe Biden
took office, and most of us have pointed out it's
Barack Obama, right, and that's what's happening with Kamala Harris too.
So while it also explains the anti Trump plot from
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twenty sixteen to the president, it also explains this whole
idea of the deep state. We need to really focused,
we need to bear down and show what's really going
on here.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's about the Barack Obama faction. Well, my brother, you
are the best. Come back join me anytime. As you know.
All right, we have Senator Ron Johnson, he remembers a
lot of this stuff. We'll talk to him next.
Speaker 13 (23:42):
It was a really big deal, and I know people
are still confused by it, but there's no question any
longer the Russians actively interfered in our election to help
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
There is no hoax. It's true, but it was a hoax.
Yet they're still running with it, and they're still rolling
out new Russian stuff every single day. Joining me now,
a great senator from the state of Wisconsin. We don't
have many of them. Ron Johnson, Senator, what do you
remember most about that Hillary Clinton Russia hoax thing? I
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thought it was so absurd right when they came out
with it. I just thought it was ridiculous. But man,
they took that ball and ran with it, and they're
still running to this day.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
They've used Russia ever since the NC server got hacked
and those emails started coming out. They were really devastatingly
had done Podesta and Democrats in general, and so they
came up with this Russia hacked into the DNC server
and then they got CrowdStrike to say that, yeah, I
was Russia that hacked in. We've never seen verification of that,
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but it works so well. It was such a great diversion,
say let's try it again. And so the Hillary Clinton campaign,
of course, they're the ones that paid for the steel Dot.
One of the sub sources of that was somebody the
FBI was investigating as a Russian spy. The FBI knew that,
they understood that the Steele Dassi was a Hillary Clinton
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political dirty trick, and yet we have ended up with
a moll investigation. We've literally our country has been put
through this political political turmoil for years now based on
that lie, that political dirty trick. So again it's galling
to listen to a Hillary Clinton, you know, talk like that.
But the fact matter is they have the mainstream media
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who knows that they know that the that they got played,
that the Russian inclusion, it was all a hoax. They've
never gotten upset of the people that got in the
false information. They continue to cover up and live for
the Democrat Party because they are basically the communication arm
of the Democrat parties.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
It's not a level playing field. It's not a fair fight.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
People forget. John Durham came out after his investigation and
pretty much confirm what you just said. Here we want as.
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Our report details, the FBI was too willing to accept
and use politically funded and uncorroborative opposition research such as
the Steele dossier. The FBI relied on the dossier INFIZA
applications knowing that there was a likely material originating from
a political campaign, a political opponent in this instance. There
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are any number of significant red flags that were raised
that were simply ignored. If there's evidence that was inconsistent
with the narrative, they didn't pay attention to it, they
didn't explore it, they didn't take the logical investigative steps
that should have been taken.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Senator, Why was nobody at the FBI ever held to
account for that? Hillary Clinton in the media being filthy
liars is nothing that's going to shock anybody watching this show.
And it's honestly not anything that can destroy the country.
But a state police agency that lies like that for
the reasons it lied, that can destroy a country. What's
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going on at the FBI?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Because Joe Biden won the election and it was all
covered up, so these people had never been held to account.
And by the way, fast forward from twenty sixteen to
twenty twenty, and then the greatest amount of political interference
in US history occurred right before the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
This was all prompted by.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
The current Secretary of State, Anthony Blanken prompted Mike Morell,
a former assistant or deputy director of the CIA, to
get this letter signed by fifty one intelligence officials, both
Republican and Democrat, and shows you how deep and pervasive
the deep state is.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
To say the Hunter.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Biden laptop, even though the FBI knew it was genuine,
that it was accurate, they signed the letter saying that
it had all the hallmarks of a Russian information operation. Well,
that letter itself was an information operation interfered in our
election to the far great think anything Russia or China
could ever hope to accomplish, And of course the mainstream
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media ran with it and still have not held those
individuals accountable. So again, the only way these people get
held accountable is if Donald Trump wins in twenty twenty four,
we get the majorities in the House and Senate, and
then we can try to hold them accountable. My guess
is that President Trump will want to do so.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
How many times have the FBI and intelligence agencies run
operations against the American people for political purposes? You and
I have been talking for about all three or four
minutes now, and we just laid out some pretty frightening
things taking place from within the government. How often does
this happen? Do these organizations see themselves as having a
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role in our elections?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
So why do you think that we've never released those
By law, they're supposed to release release all the documents
of the jfk assassination. You know what I've been learning
about what happened with Richard Nixon, and I was back
there reading Time magazine, going yeah, let's get this guy.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
He's you know, corrupt.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
You know what you find out now is well deep
Throat was the director, the deputy director of the FBI.
All the plumbers were CIA agents. The primary person who
pushed the cover up was John Dean, who got off.
Scott Free has been made a hero on the mainstream media.
So I don't know. I think our federal government has
been lying to us for decades, and they'll continue to
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lie to us as long as people don't understand if
they're never never held accountable. That's one of the reasons
it's so important to hold these people accountable, you know,
when we've got them, when we know what has happened,
we have to hold them accountable.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
What can Trump and the Senate do if he is elected?
And I asked this because people who don't really necessarily
understand how the government work, how the laws work, they
think to themselves Trump can get elected and he can
just walk in and fire every FBI agent or something
along those lines, or that Ron Johnson can do that,
but you can't. Okay, that's fine. What can we do?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I think it starts with releasing the JFK assassination files,
and we'll find out what a grotesque cover up the
Warrant Commission was. And I think truth would be revealed there.
And I've read enough in terms of books, it's pretty
obvious there was some involvement, some connection there.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I don't know all of it, but.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It gets pretty It gets pretty detailed in terms of
you know, who knew what when and who did what when.
But first release that so that the American public realized, oh,
we have been lied to. You know, one of the
reasons I've been pushing so hard on COVID and the
vaccine mandates and the vaccine injuries is our federal government
during COVID completely lied to us. They were the ones
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who are pushing misinformation. They're the ones that sabotaged early
treatment with the use of cheap generic drugs that worked.
And because they're sabotaged by one hundred thousand people lost
their lives.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
They didn't have to, Okay, So you have.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
To use those instances where we just have them cold,
where it's obviously these people have lied and cheated. Now
will still have to overcome the power of the media
because they're complicit in this. They don't want to be caught.
They're not going to admit they were wrong. You know,
you're not going to hear Maya couples coming out of
the media. I mean, for example, where are the Washington
Posts giving back their Pultzer prizes for the Russian collusion hoax.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
They're not doing it. So again, it's not going to
be easy.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
But I just have to believe Jesse or I wouldn't
be still doing this that eventually truth will have its
own power. But it has to get out and that's
what Trump asked you. He has to release the JFK
assassination files. That will be again, hopefully the unraveling of
the of the deep state and the exposure of these
lies that we've been told for decades.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I agree with you. I think those things need to
be released. Trump has promised to release them. But that
also begs the question, Senator, why have they never been released.
JFK died in nineteen sixty three. Here we are in
the year of Our Lord nine or two thousand twenty
four is a long time ago. So very clearly some
entity with a significant amount of power doesn't want those
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things released. What other conclusion can I possibly draw from
all this?
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Again, Trump, when he got elected Garant had told people
that he was gonna release those Then apparently Mike pom Pal,
then the CIA director, went to him and just begged
him not to release them, and Trump didn't. I think
Trump regrets that decision. I don't think he'll make the
same mistake if he gets elected again. So you know, again,
hope that Trump wins this election, and I can't imagine
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he went on to that promise.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I think those documents.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Now the question would be, will people in the deep
state actually release all the documents, so it's not exactly
like those are sitting in Trump's mar A Lago. Finally,
you know, we're gonna have to rely on the deep
state to release the documents in total. We'll have to
probably investigate whether that's actually happened or not.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh gosh, that's gonna be spicy. Senator, thank you so much.
I appreciate you very much. He brings up an excellent point.
And I've been told this several times from people who
know that the release of those JFK files, it's not
old news, it's not something old. It's really really important.
And again I'll bring this up. There's only one reason
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you wouldn't release those files. It would be to protect someone,
but someone that wouldn't make any sense, anyone who could
possibly any individual who could possibly have been involved. And
the JFK assassination is either fart and dust or almost dead.
So if it's not to protect an individual, then it's
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to protect an institution of some kind. Might be very
very revealing about what's been going on inside in our
federal government for quite a while.
Speaker 11 (33:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Anyway, we'll get some little tidbits from Margo Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Next, the American people are entitled to know when a
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foreign power is attempting to exploit our countries free exchange
of ideas in order to send around its own propaganda.
That is what we elects captain in.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
This case, whether it's China, Iran, Russia, or any other
country attempts to meddle in our elections or destabilize our
free and open society, represent attacks on our democracy. And
as long as foreign adversaries keep engaging in these hostile
influence campaigns, are going to keep running into the FBI.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Our demoocracy. Wild how they all just adopt the communist
language and it's crazy. Right about election season, about the
time everyone starts voting, the DOJ discovers some more Russian collusion.
Oh scary. Joining me now, Margo Cleveland's senior legal correspondent
with the Federalist Margo accurate or not. I can't speak
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to the validity or accuracy of any of the charges
or the indictment, but the timing is so obvious it's
painful to me, and even more painful to that the
people on our side who don't recognize it.
Speaker 15 (35:35):
It is absolutely obvious. And the part that to me
is the most ridiculous is our government and Attorney General
Garland as well as the FBI director have done more
to interfere in our elections, whether it was covering up
the Hunter Biden a scandal with a laptop, or if
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it was the Russia Russia Russia hoax back in two
thousand and sixteen, or the fifty one Intelligence community agents
who sign that letter. Our government has done more to
Medal than Russia has.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Margo, can you explain what exactly we're looking at here?
I'm talking about the effectiveness of the yop? Does this
stuff work on the American people? Still? It sure seems
to me like it works from what I see.
Speaker 15 (36:28):
It's because we still have half the country who hates Trump,
so anything that they can hook onto they will. About
half the country still believes that there was Russia collusion.
I think there's like thirty percent of Democrats who actually
believe that Russia changed votes to get Trump elected. So yeah,
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it still works on a portion of society. But I
also think we'd want to look at this from a
bigger picture. Every country, are self included, tries to push
its own narrative in other countries and in its own
You have it going on with Ukraine. Now you have
it with the Biden administration trying to put pressure on Israel.
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When Hamas executes six hostages, including.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
One of our own, what do they do.
Speaker 15 (37:17):
They come out with this narrative that Israel hasn't done enough.
Why because they don't like that in Yahoo and they're
trying to get him pressured out as prime minister. Every
country does this. This is a normal thing. What we
really should be talking about is what about these stories.
If Russia is coming out and peddling something, I want
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to know if it's true or false.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I don't care that it's Russia. I care about the truth.
Speaker 15 (37:44):
And our government has been doing so much to hide things,
whether it was about COVID, whether it was about the
Hunter Biden laptop. If we're going to get the truth
from Russia, then so be it. Let's get the truth.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Okay. So I want to rewind and talk about the
Hunter Biden thing because what some people, some people, a
lot of people forget that Anthony Blincoln actually played a
role in all this. Anthony Blincoln didn't wake up one
day and just get handed the prestigious spot of Secretary
of State, did he? Margo he had to put in
some work.
Speaker 15 (38:20):
He was absolutely involved with this whole approach. He and
other members of the Biden campaign were the ones who
came up with this idea of putting this letter together,
and that is one of the biggest pieces of misinformation
that you got.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And what did they do.
Speaker 15 (38:38):
They played it off as this is Russia disinformation that
they're trying to meddle in our election. Again, going back
to the point, it was our government, our former officials
and now some of our current officials, who were the
ones doing the meddling.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Margo. Something that isn't talked about, miraculously is China. This
country puts intelligence operatives in positions of power right next
to our politicians, everyone from senators to congressmen, city council members.
They're spying using technology. It's pervasive, and yet we never
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hear about them. Margo.
Speaker 15 (39:18):
Well, you'll hear about it every now and then when
an indictment breaks or someone gets kicked out of someone's high.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Up government position.
Speaker 15 (39:26):
But it is very ironic that there's more concern about
what is going on with Russia in the media where
we can see it and you can have fact checking,
you can have counterpoints versus China, which is actually in
bed sometimes literally with government officials.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Wow, Nancy Pelosi's been out there saying, well, few Democrats
have been saying things like this recently. What do you
think putting.
Speaker 9 (39:55):
Has on him?
Speaker 12 (39:56):
I mean, it sure seems like something, as you've said
a few times, and that he refuses to criticize him,
that he seems to be a fanboy on him.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
So I don't know what he has on them, but
I think it's probably financial. I think it's probably financial,
either something financially has on or something on the come.
Speaker 16 (40:13):
Let me ask, yeah, speaking of financial ties with Russia,
Ukraine and all that, Democrats have a few of those,
don't they.
Speaker 15 (40:25):
They sure have those ties. And it is coming from
Biden and Hunter who had the ties with the former
mayor's wife, the former Moscow mayor's wife, or with Ukraine.
And maybe you want to ask yourself why so which
money is going there?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
But Pelosi's point is just ridiculous.
Speaker 15 (40:45):
Donald Trump has been the most investigated nan ever. If
there was something that Russia had on him, they would
have found it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Thank you, Margo, I appreciate it. Come back to.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
All right, we have final thoughts next.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
When they say Democrats are cult members. When you hear
things like that, you should understand it's true. They have
been programmed. They don't know they've been programmed, but they
have been programmed by the hive mind to believe things
that simply are not true. Your neighborhood Democrat genuinely believes
that the Russians are on Donald Trump's side, and that
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they've spent years in filtrating elections, cheating, and elections to
aid the Russian asset Donald Trump. It's of course completely insane,
created and made up, as you just learned over the
last hour. But that's not important. What is important is
we have cult members in this country, brain dead drones
who believe that they are known as Democrats. Let us
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attempt to wake them up, slowly but surely. All right,
all right, we'll do it again.
Well, I guess it's election season. You know how I
can tell it's election season. It's not all the bumper
stickers and all the yard signs and the TV commercials.
You can't even log into something on your phone without
getting bludgeoned by it. That's not how I can tell
its election season. I can tell it's election season because
Russia's back in the news.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Russia remains a predominant foreign threat to our elections.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Russian attempts to interfere in our elections and influence our society.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
The schemes I have just discussed may clear the ends
to which the Russian government, including at its highest levels,
is willing to go to undermine our democratic process.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh my gosh, I guess it's election year because Democrats
are one once again talking about Russia, and so I
thought it would be helpful as we open up the
show to discuss why your liberal AMT. Pagy lives in
a world of make believe. We talk about that all
the time. How the Communist in your life. They believe
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things that simply are not true. They know things that
are not true. But how does that happen? Well, the
world of make believe? Your liberal AMT. Pegy lives in
was constructed for her, and you can go back. We
have all the video, we have all the stories there
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to explain how and why they constructed that world, the
whole Russia stuff. It goes really back to Hillary Clinton.
Now I need to pause for a moment, and I
need to explain something before I play this little clip
of Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is not starting the Russian
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collusion op that so many liberals believe today. She's not
starting at when you look at this video clip, what
she's doing is she's putting a little bow on it.
You see, Before Hillary Clinton stood on the stage and
accused Donald Trump of being a Russian agent, or however
she puts it, Hillary Clinton had already begun working behind
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the scenes. She was the Democrat nominee, Donald Trump was
the Republican nominee. Hillary Clinton, she hired a foreign intelligence agent,
Christopher Steele was his name. She hired a known liar,
Christopher Steele, and she had him put together a dossier,
a dossier that made Donald Trump look like he was
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compromised by the Russians, had done dirty things with the Russians.
And we know now, keep in mind, we know that
all this was false. Christopher Steele made this up. He
had dirty sources. All this was false. But she had
already works behind the scenes to create this illusion, a
dirt file, if you will, a false dirt file about
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Donald Trump. After she'd already worked to create that file,
got that file in the hands of the FBI. Then
she stood on the stage and said this.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We have never in the history of our country been
in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power is
working so hard to influence the outcome of the election.
And believe me, they're not doing it to get me elected.
They're doing it to try to influence the election for
Donald Trump. Now, maybe because he has praised Putin, Maybe
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because he says he agrees with a lot of what
Putin wants to do. Maybe because he wants to do
business in Moscow. I don't know the reasons, but we
deserve answers.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We deserve answers. How compromised is this guy. This is
from the lady who already had the Russian collusion in
the works. She went on television and tied a nice
little bow on it and handed it to your liberal
and pegy who took that false story and began to
run with it, and of course after they began to
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run with it, after Hillary Clinton put the public bow
on it and put that word out, after the Hive
Mind decided that's how they wanted every Democrat drone in
the country talking well, the left wing pundits, the left
wing politicians. They did as they always do. They got
their programming update from the Hive Mind, and then they
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ran to social media, television and everywhere else to disseminate
the false information. There is circumstantial evidence of collusion.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's super obvious already.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He is a Russian asset. He is clearly a Russian asset.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
The president is acting like he is the asset for Russia.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Back then, my biggest fear was we had elected an
asset of the Russian government who would sell out America
at every opportunity just to save his own hide. My
biggest fear now is that I was right.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Do you still believe the president could be a Russian asset?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think it's possible.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
It is a possibility, and I would add to that
caveat that whether winning or unwinning, And that is a
really painful thing to say.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It hurts me to say it, but probably a Russian asset. Again,
all of this was created by Hillary Clinton's campaign, voiced
by Hillary Clinton, Democrat politicians, pundits ran to the television
Russian Asset, Russian Asset, Russian asset. And this entire time,
your liberal and Paggy is having the world of make
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believe constructed for her. Think of it like a construction
project where they're building her false world. Slowly but surely.
They're putting in the landscaping the buildings. They have the
foundation down, Russia, Russia, Russia, programming her over and over
and over again. They completed the Russian collusion fake world
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for her. Then that world was made ready for her,
ready for them to use against her whenever something came up.
And now they can use it and do use it
all the time. Remember Hunter Biden's laptop. The FBI gets possessioned.
They get a laptop turned into them by a private
citizen who says, hey, this laptop is now mine. There
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are dirty felonies on here courtesy of Hunter Biden. The
Federal Bureau of Investigation takes the laptop and hit it.
They didn't dig into it, they didn't try to expose it,
and then they illegally used a wiretap on Rudy Giuliani
to find out that the media of The New York
Post was getting ready to publicize a story about the
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Russian laptop, about the Hunter Biden laptop. I'm sorry, the
Hunter Biden laptop. And so what do they do? What
can you possibly use? How do you shoot down this
very damaging story to Joe Biden? Well, Mark Zuckerberg said
it pretty clearly. What did the FBI say to him
when they knocked on the door of Facebook.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
The FBI, I think basically came to us some folks
on our team. It was like, hey, just so you know,
like you should be on high alert. There was we
thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in
the twenty sixteen election. We have it on notice that
basically there's about to be some kind of dump of
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that's similar to that, So just be vigilant.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You see how Zuckerberg and all the other COMI drones
at Facebook had been programmed with the world of make believe,
and so it was easy for them to buy into
the FBI lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian collusion.
FBI knocked on the doors set as Russian collusion. These
drones had been programmed in the world of make believe
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to see Russians under the bed everywhere. They naturally believed
it right away and promptly censored the story. Twitters censored
the New York Post Twitter account for posting an accurate
story because it had to be the Russians, right, This
is this is how they operate. And the media, of course,
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knowing that Liberal and Pegy had had the world of
make believe, the Russian world of make believe, created for her.
They know she had already been programmed, She had already
been conditioned to believe everything was Russian. And so they
ran to the media, or they ran to their microphones,
and they told your liberal m Peggy, this Biden's secret
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emails a really fishy story. The Post claimed that the
emails were found on a laptop computer that was brought
to a repair shop in Delaware in the spring of
twenty nineteen. The FBI is now investigating whether those alleged
hunter Buy emails are actually connected to a larger foreign
intelligence operation. They may be related to a foreign intelligence operation,
foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Foreign intelligent foreign intelligence, foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
For all we know, these emails.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Are made up.
Speaker 10 (09:03):
The information found on the laptop may be part of
a Russian disinformation campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Part of a Russian disinformation.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Effort described by many intelligence experts as having hallmarks, all
the hallmarks, rather all the hallmarks of a Russian for
Russian Russian disinformation Russian disinformation disinformation campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
This is a classic example of the right wing media
machine you see as liberal and Pegy sat and watched
that what you saw was lies. What she saw was
simply affirmation of what she already knew about her world,
the world that had been constructed for her, a world
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where the right wingers, the Republicans Donald Trump in particular,
had partnered with Vladimir Putin and the evil Russian government
to try to adjust alter cheat in American elections. And
as soon as the media FBI told told her that
it was the Russians doing it, she had been so
programmed by the hive mind that she just simply naturally
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believed it. And now we have a population I don't
know the percentages. I guess we'll find out in November.
We have a population of voters on the left who
have been programmed that way now, and Democrats communists are
smart enough to use that program. They know their base
believes in this Russian Russian collusion narrative. They've been programmed
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for years for it, and so a shoot right away,
Democrats in this selection began planting those seeds.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
What does he have on Donald Trump that he had
to constantly be catering to Putin, telling Putin go into
these countries?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And why is Donald Trump so enamored of Putin? Well,
part of it is he don't want to be dictator.
Speaker 10 (10:54):
Not only is there no evidence of any wrongdoing by
President Biden, but it now appears as if the House
Republican majority is being used by Russia to interfere in
the twenty twenty four election on behalf of Donald Trump.
If they continue with this investigation, they are simply doing
the work of Vladimir Putin to help Donald Trump win
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an election in November. That's where we are.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Your liberal and Pegy sees that it's again affirmation of
what she already knows, the world of make believe, the
world of lies she's been programmed with. She sees things
like that, and she gets herself ready for more of it.
And then out of the blue just happened recently, the
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DOJ in conjunction with the FBI had a press conference
announcing that they had uncovered some dastardly Russian involvement in
the election millions of dollars right wingers. The media grabbed
it ran with it. And I'll give you this little
tidbit here. I have sources myself. It's weird to say,
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but I have sources myself, sources inside the belly of
the beast. The DOJ slash FBI rolled out the latest
Russian indictments for early voting. It's not designed to help
the election. And here's one for you. Did you know
there are more coming? They didn't want to do them
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all at once, so there will be more indictments coming
for right wingers for taking Russian money. Let's see how
many on our side are dumb enough to fall for it.
I know for a fact liberal at Peggy will fall
for it. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right. Lee Smith is going to join us.
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He knows all about the first Russian hoax. Let's dig
into that with him. Hang on.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.
They spied at my campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There's no real evidence of that.
Speaker 11 (13:26):
Of course there is. It's all over the place, Leslie,
they spied of my campaign and they got.
Speaker 9 (13:31):
Can I say something?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, this is sixty minutes and we can't put
on things we can't.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
Verify it on because it's bad for Biden.
Speaker 9 (13:39):
We can't put on things we can't.
Speaker 11 (13:41):
Very Leslie, they spy to my campaign, It's fine, totally verified,
it's been Just go down and get the papers. They
spied on my campaign. They got caught. No, and then
they went much further than that, and they got caught.
And you will see that, Leslie, and you know that,
but you just don't want to normally, as a matter
of fact, I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Look at that apparatchic sit there and argue with Donald Trump.
He was right. I should know it's undeniable. All the
evidence is there now it's all been exposed, Leslie Stahl
was lying. Trump was right. And that's how it works
in this country. Joining me now, my friend Lee Smith,
and wonderful author. I read everything he writes. He has
a new book out I should note, called Disappearing the President.
(14:25):
You might want to pick that one up. Okay, Lee,
Let's pretend like people forget, because people do forget. There
are so many scandals and so many new things all
the freaking time. Can you explain for those of us
who forget, how did the whole FBI spying on Trump begin?
What happened at the beginning, How did all this start?
Speaker 12 (14:47):
Well, you know, Jesse, something very important that we forget
all the time, which I want to highlight, is that, Well,
first of all, I have to say, I'm thinking about
something that you tweeted the other day when you were
talking about this centrality of Barack Obama, and I looked
at that what you tweeted, and I'm like, yay, thank you,
Jesse Kelly for saying this. Because I hear deep state,
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I hear administrative state, I hear managerial class, I hear
the blob, I hear everything, and all of these abstractions
make it much harder for us to deal with what's
really going on and has been going on since at
least twenty sixteen, and that's Barack Obama. And the person
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who identified that first was none other than Donald Trump
in in March twenty seventeen tweet I'm talking about Russigate
here when he said, Wow, just found out Obama had
my phone's tap at Trump Tower, and everyone said, that's outrageous,
that's crazy, that makes no sense. But of course that's
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actually what happened. Did he precisely have his wires tap
or his phone's tap? Was the you know, do we
still use that language now? No, it was a Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant on the Trump circle, right, So
that's precisely what happened. And so I think that's where
we have to start. We have to start by remembering
that all of these people, all of the spy chiefs
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involved in this, were Barack Obama spy chiefs.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So I'm so.
Speaker 12 (16:17):
Glad to get a chance because I was going to
tweet or I was going to text you and say
thank you, Jesse, God bless you for bringing that up.
But that's actually also a major part of this book,
Disappearing the President.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We don't have.
Speaker 12 (16:31):
Pre orders available yet, but we will soon. But to
talk about the role of Barack Obama, and it starts
Donald Trump is the first person to identify it with
that tweet, how.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Did we get you? One hundred percent? Right? And I
want people to get it, But how did we get
from Barack Obama has poisonous intel guys to the Steele dossier?
From Hillary Clinton? Connect those roles for me Lea Well.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I mean the Steele dossier.
Speaker 12 (16:59):
This, this is something there's a basic misunderstanding about this,
right because when Christopher Steele came out, he was described
as this, you know, British super spy, right that that's
how important he that's that's that's what a great man
he was. That he'd found and of course less than
a month he'd found this incredible secret relationship between Donald
Trump and the Kremlin, Right, that was the story. Nothing
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of this sort happened. The way to understand Christopher Christopher
Steele is he was an FBI informant, right, That's who
Steel was. He had one time worked for British intelligence,
but he also worked for Russian oligarchs based in London.
Steele was a confidential informant, that's who.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's who was hired, right.
Speaker 12 (17:42):
The Clinton campaign hired an FBI confidential informant to do
the Steel dossier.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Right.
Speaker 12 (17:50):
So again this is important to keep in mind. At
the time, we were surprised to see in twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen, we were surprised to see, oh my goodness,
the Clinton campaign paid for this. It must be all
about them, Hillary Clinton. That the campaign paid for it
is very important. But something again that we must not
forget it's so crucial, is that all of these spy
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chiefs were working for Barack Obama, and Barack Obama was
in fact read into Russia Gate, the anti Trump plot.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Right.
Speaker 12 (18:21):
John Brennan tells us this in his handwritten notes, that
Barack Obama was aware of what the Clinton campaign was
doing by vilifying Donald Trump as a Russian agent. So, Jesse,
I just think it's so important now looking at the
Steele dossier and looking at other things that have happened
since then, whether it's the Special Council investigation, the Malor investigation,
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whether it's the whether it's the impeachments of Donald Trump,
whether it's January sixth, whether it's these various cases against
Donald Trump. The DOJ case, is the Fulton County case, right,
the the Alvin Bragg case in Manhattan. It's really important
for us to see these as all instruments of the
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Barack Obama faction, which is the way to think about
what's happened here since at least twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Lee, can you explain why Russia and obviously, as we've
talked about, as you know, as I know, everything ties
back to that dirty communist Obama getting in the government,
running out anyone remotely normal, and filling up the government
with maoists. But why Russia? Where did this come from?
Speaker 12 (19:36):
I mean, I think a lot of it has to
do with I think it's a perhaps a Cold War habit, right.
One of the surprising things which I believe that you've
remarked on Jesse's as much as anyone. It's like, so,
since when does the left have problems with Russia?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Right?
Speaker 12 (19:51):
I mean, we know that this was one of our
core problems during the course of the Cold War, the
left's adoration of the Soviet Union. So I think this
was one of the threads. I think that that's one
of the reasons that they looked at Russia. There were
other there were other reasons too. There were an intelligence
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intelligence service problems with the Russians right dating back to
Ukraine in twenty fourteen, So this is another issue. But
I also think that this is one of the major tells, right,
because as I've described frequently, there is no American president
who's been more pro Moscow than Barack Obama.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
Whether this was whether this is what happened whether this
was Eastern Europe with Ukraine and Russia, or whether this
was the Middle East, especially Syria. Let's remember what Barack
Obama did in order to preserve the Iran nuclear deal.
He got the Syrian regime of bisharl Asset to turn
over to turn over his unconventional weapons to Vladimir Putin.
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This was Putin helping out Obama. And no one will
ever forget the line that Obama whispered to Dmitri Medvedev,
tell lad that after the next election, I'll have more flexibility.
So the idea this should have been a tell for
people inside of Washington, but of course, of course it
was not. But the fact how close Barack Obama was
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to Putin, how close he was to Moscow. The idea
that the same people who were describing Obama's closeness to
Moscow and how this was a good thing in Syria
turned around. The same sources turned around and said, oh,
look at for Donald Trump. He has all these ties
to Vladimir Putin, So that that should have been a tell.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well, tell me about this book disappearing the president.
Speaker 12 (21:47):
Well, I mean this is this is really you know
what we do is here? What the story, what the
story I'm telling is it starts off with it starts
off with Russiagate, and it comes to the president. It
shows the you know you see on the cover of
the one of the iconic photographs of President Trump standing
up at the Butler rally. But it really goes through
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this real attack on Donald Trump on the country. And again,
I think one of the most crucial parts of one
of the most crucial parts of the book is it
shows what Barack Obama did from twenty sixteen to the president,
again reminding people of Barack Obama's hand in this It's
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not a mystery of what's going on. It's not a
mystery that Joe Biden was an avatar. We talk about
who's running the government now, Well, this was a question
that most of us have been asking since Joe Biden
took office, and most of us have pointed out it's
Barack Obama, right, and that's what's happening with Kamala Harris too.
So while it also explains the anti Trump plot from
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twenty sixteen to the president, it also explains this whole
idea of the deep state. We need to really focused,
we need to bear down and show what's really going
on here.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's about the Barack Obama faction. Well, my brother, you
are the best. Come back join me anytime. As you know.
All right, we have Senator Ron Johnson, he remembers a
lot of this stuff. We'll talk to him next.
Speaker 13 (23:42):
It was a really big deal, and I know people
are still confused by it, but there's no question any
longer the Russians actively interfered in our election to help
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
There is no hoax. It's true, but it was a hoax.
Yet they're still running with it, and they're still rolling
out new Russian stuff every single day. Joining me now,
a great senator from the state of Wisconsin. We don't
have many of them. Ron Johnson, Senator, what do you
remember most about that Hillary Clinton Russia hoax thing? I
(24:19):
thought it was so absurd right when they came out
with it. I just thought it was ridiculous. But man,
they took that ball and ran with it, and they're
still running to this day.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
They've used Russia ever since the NC server got hacked
and those emails started coming out. They were really devastatingly
had done Podesta and Democrats in general, and so they
came up with this Russia hacked into the DNC server
and then they got CrowdStrike to say that, yeah, I
was Russia that hacked in. We've never seen verification of that,
(24:49):
but it works so well. It was such a great diversion,
say let's try it again. And so the Hillary Clinton campaign,
of course, they're the ones that paid for the steel Dot.
One of the sub sources of that was somebody the
FBI was investigating as a Russian spy. The FBI knew that,
they understood that the Steele Dassi was a Hillary Clinton
(25:12):
political dirty trick, and yet we have ended up with
a moll investigation. We've literally our country has been put
through this political political turmoil for years now based on
that lie, that political dirty trick. So again it's galling
to listen to a Hillary Clinton, you know, talk like that.
But the fact matter is they have the mainstream media
(25:34):
who knows that they know that the that they got played,
that the Russian inclusion, it was all a hoax. They've
never gotten upset of the people that got in the
false information. They continue to cover up and live for
the Democrat Party because they are basically the communication arm
of the Democrat parties.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
It's not a level playing field. It's not a fair fight.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
People forget. John Durham came out after his investigation and
pretty much confirm what you just said. Here we want as.
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Our report details, the FBI was too willing to accept
and use politically funded and uncorroborative opposition research such as
the Steele dossier. The FBI relied on the dossier INFIZA
applications knowing that there was a likely material originating from
a political campaign, a political opponent in this instance. There
(26:25):
are any number of significant red flags that were raised
that were simply ignored. If there's evidence that was inconsistent
with the narrative, they didn't pay attention to it, they
didn't explore it, they didn't take the logical investigative steps
that should have been taken.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Senator, Why was nobody at the FBI ever held to
account for that? Hillary Clinton in the media being filthy
liars is nothing that's going to shock anybody watching this show.
And it's honestly not anything that can destroy the country.
But a state police agency that lies like that for
the reasons it lied, that can destroy a country. What's
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going on at the FBI?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Because Joe Biden won the election and it was all
covered up, so these people had never been held to account.
And by the way, fast forward from twenty sixteen to
twenty twenty, and then the greatest amount of political interference
in US history occurred right before the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
This was all prompted by.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
The current Secretary of State, Anthony Blanken prompted Mike Morell,
a former assistant or deputy director of the CIA, to
get this letter signed by fifty one intelligence officials, both
Republican and Democrat, and shows you how deep and pervasive
the deep state is.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
To say the Hunter.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Biden laptop, even though the FBI knew it was genuine,
that it was accurate, they signed the letter saying that
it had all the hallmarks of a Russian information operation. Well,
that letter itself was an information operation interfered in our
election to the far great think anything Russia or China
could ever hope to accomplish, And of course the mainstream
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media ran with it and still have not held those
individuals accountable. So again, the only way these people get
held accountable is if Donald Trump wins in twenty twenty four,
we get the majorities in the House and Senate, and
then we can try to hold them accountable. My guess
is that President Trump will want to do so.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
How many times have the FBI and intelligence agencies run
operations against the American people for political purposes? You and
I have been talking for about all three or four
minutes now, and we just laid out some pretty frightening
things taking place from within the government. How often does
this happen? Do these organizations see themselves as having a
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role in our elections?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
So why do you think that we've never released those
By law, they're supposed to release release all the documents
of the jfk assassination. You know what I've been learning
about what happened with Richard Nixon, and I was back
there reading Time magazine, going yeah, let's get this guy.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
He's you know, corrupt.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
You know what you find out now is well deep
Throat was the director, the deputy director of the FBI.
All the plumbers were CIA agents. The primary person who
pushed the cover up was John Dean, who got off.
Scott Free has been made a hero on the mainstream media.
So I don't know. I think our federal government has
been lying to us for decades, and they'll continue to
(29:26):
lie to us as long as people don't understand if
they're never never held accountable. That's one of the reasons
it's so important to hold these people accountable, you know,
when we've got them, when we know what has happened,
we have to hold them accountable.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
What can Trump and the Senate do if he is elected?
And I asked this because people who don't really necessarily
understand how the government work, how the laws work, they
think to themselves Trump can get elected and he can
just walk in and fire every FBI agent or something
along those lines, or that Ron Johnson can do that,
but you can't. Okay, that's fine. What can we do?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I think it starts with releasing the JFK assassination files,
and we'll find out what a grotesque cover up the
Warrant Commission was. And I think truth would be revealed there.
And I've read enough in terms of books, it's pretty
obvious there was some involvement, some connection there.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I don't know all of it, but.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It gets pretty It gets pretty detailed in terms of
you know, who knew what when and who did what when.
But first release that so that the American public realized, oh,
we have been lied to. You know, one of the
reasons I've been pushing so hard on COVID and the
vaccine mandates and the vaccine injuries is our federal government
during COVID completely lied to us. They were the ones
(30:42):
who are pushing misinformation. They're the ones that sabotaged early
treatment with the use of cheap generic drugs that worked.
And because they're sabotaged by one hundred thousand people lost
their lives.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
They didn't have to, Okay, So you have.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
To use those instances where we just have them cold,
where it's obviously these people have lied and cheated. Now
will still have to overcome the power of the media
because they're complicit in this. They don't want to be caught.
They're not going to admit they were wrong. You know,
you're not going to hear Maya couples coming out of
the media. I mean, for example, where are the Washington
Posts giving back their Pultzer prizes for the Russian collusion hoax.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
They're not doing it. So again, it's not going to
be easy.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
But I just have to believe Jesse or I wouldn't
be still doing this that eventually truth will have its
own power. But it has to get out and that's
what Trump asked you. He has to release the JFK
assassination files. That will be again, hopefully the unraveling of
the of the deep state and the exposure of these
lies that we've been told for decades.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I agree with you. I think those things need to
be released. Trump has promised to release them. But that
also begs the question, Senator, why have they never been released.
JFK died in nineteen sixty three. Here we are in
the year of Our Lord nine or two thousand twenty
four is a long time ago. So very clearly some
entity with a significant amount of power doesn't want those
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things released. What other conclusion can I possibly draw from
all this?
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Again, Trump, when he got elected Garant had told people
that he was gonna release those Then apparently Mike pom Pal,
then the CIA director, went to him and just begged
him not to release them, and Trump didn't. I think
Trump regrets that decision. I don't think he'll make the
same mistake if he gets elected again. So you know, again,
hope that Trump wins this election, and I can't imagine
(32:35):
he went on to that promise.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I think those documents.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Now the question would be, will people in the deep
state actually release all the documents, so it's not exactly
like those are sitting in Trump's mar A Lago. Finally,
you know, we're gonna have to rely on the deep
state to release the documents in total. We'll have to
probably investigate whether that's actually happened or not.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh gosh, that's gonna be spicy. Senator, thank you so much.
I appreciate you very much. He brings up an excellent point.
And I've been told this several times from people who
know that the release of those JFK files, it's not
old news, it's not something old. It's really really important.
And again I'll bring this up. There's only one reason
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you wouldn't release those files. It would be to protect someone,
but someone that wouldn't make any sense, anyone who could
possibly any individual who could possibly have been involved. And
the JFK assassination is either fart and dust or almost dead.
So if it's not to protect an individual, then it's
(33:43):
to protect an institution of some kind. Might be very
very revealing about what's been going on inside in our
federal government for quite a while.
Speaker 11 (33:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Anyway, we'll get some little tidbits from Margo Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Next, the American people are entitled to know when a
(34:24):
foreign power is attempting to exploit our countries free exchange
of ideas in order to send around its own propaganda.
That is what we elects captain in.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
This case, whether it's China, Iran, Russia, or any other
country attempts to meddle in our elections or destabilize our
free and open society, represent attacks on our democracy. And
as long as foreign adversaries keep engaging in these hostile
influence campaigns, are going to keep running into the FBI.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Our demoocracy. Wild how they all just adopt the communist
language and it's crazy. Right about election season, about the
time everyone starts voting, the DOJ discovers some more Russian collusion.
Oh scary. Joining me now, Margo Cleveland's senior legal correspondent
with the Federalist Margo accurate or not. I can't speak
(35:23):
to the validity or accuracy of any of the charges
or the indictment, but the timing is so obvious it's
painful to me, and even more painful to that the
people on our side who don't recognize it.
Speaker 15 (35:35):
It is absolutely obvious. And the part that to me
is the most ridiculous is our government and Attorney General
Garland as well as the FBI director have done more
to interfere in our elections, whether it was covering up
the Hunter Biden a scandal with a laptop, or if
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it was the Russia Russia Russia hoax back in two
thousand and sixteen, or the fifty one Intelligence community agents
who sign that letter. Our government has done more to
Medal than Russia has.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Margo, can you explain what exactly we're looking at here?
I'm talking about the effectiveness of the yop? Does this
stuff work on the American people? Still? It sure seems
to me like it works from what I see.
Speaker 15 (36:28):
It's because we still have half the country who hates Trump,
so anything that they can hook onto they will. About
half the country still believes that there was Russia collusion.
I think there's like thirty percent of Democrats who actually
believe that Russia changed votes to get Trump elected. So yeah,
(36:48):
it still works on a portion of society. But I
also think we'd want to look at this from a
bigger picture. Every country, are self included, tries to push
its own narrative in other countries and in its own
You have it going on with Ukraine. Now you have
it with the Biden administration trying to put pressure on Israel.
(37:10):
When Hamas executes six hostages, including.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
One of our own, what do they do.
Speaker 15 (37:17):
They come out with this narrative that Israel hasn't done enough.
Why because they don't like that in Yahoo and they're
trying to get him pressured out as prime minister. Every
country does this. This is a normal thing. What we
really should be talking about is what about these stories.
If Russia is coming out and peddling something, I want
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to know if it's true or false.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I don't care that it's Russia. I care about the truth.
Speaker 15 (37:44):
And our government has been doing so much to hide things,
whether it was about COVID, whether it was about the
Hunter Biden laptop. If we're going to get the truth
from Russia, then so be it. Let's get the truth.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Okay. So I want to rewind and talk about the
Hunter Biden thing because what some people, some people, a
lot of people forget that Anthony Blincoln actually played a
role in all this. Anthony Blincoln didn't wake up one
day and just get handed the prestigious spot of Secretary
of State, did he? Margo he had to put in
some work.
Speaker 15 (38:20):
He was absolutely involved with this whole approach. He and
other members of the Biden campaign were the ones who
came up with this idea of putting this letter together,
and that is one of the biggest pieces of misinformation
that you got.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And what did they do.
Speaker 15 (38:38):
They played it off as this is Russia disinformation that
they're trying to meddle in our election. Again, going back
to the point, it was our government, our former officials
and now some of our current officials, who were the
ones doing the meddling.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Margo. Something that isn't talked about, miraculously is China. This
country puts intelligence operatives in positions of power right next
to our politicians, everyone from senators to congressmen, city council members.
They're spying using technology. It's pervasive, and yet we never
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hear about them. Margo.
Speaker 15 (39:18):
Well, you'll hear about it every now and then when
an indictment breaks or someone gets kicked out of someone's high.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Up government position.
Speaker 15 (39:26):
But it is very ironic that there's more concern about
what is going on with Russia in the media where
we can see it and you can have fact checking,
you can have counterpoints versus China, which is actually in
bed sometimes literally with government officials.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Wow, Nancy Pelosi's been out there saying, well, few Democrats
have been saying things like this recently. What do you
think putting.
Speaker 9 (39:55):
Has on him?
Speaker 12 (39:56):
I mean, it sure seems like something, as you've said
a few times, and that he refuses to criticize him,
that he seems to be a fanboy on him.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
So I don't know what he has on them, but
I think it's probably financial. I think it's probably financial,
either something financially has on or something on the come.
Speaker 16 (40:13):
Let me ask, yeah, speaking of financial ties with Russia,
Ukraine and all that, Democrats have a few of those,
don't they.
Speaker 15 (40:25):
They sure have those ties. And it is coming from
Biden and Hunter who had the ties with the former
mayor's wife, the former Moscow mayor's wife, or with Ukraine.
And maybe you want to ask yourself why so which
money is going there?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
But Pelosi's point is just ridiculous.
Speaker 15 (40:45):
Donald Trump has been the most investigated nan ever. If
there was something that Russia had on him, they would
have found it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Thank you, Margo, I appreciate it. Come back to.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
All right, we have final thoughts next.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
When they say Democrats are cult members. When you hear
things like that, you should understand it's true. They have
been programmed. They don't know they've been programmed, but they
have been programmed by the hive mind to believe things
that simply are not true. Your neighborhood Democrat genuinely believes
that the Russians are on Donald Trump's side, and that
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they've spent years in filtrating elections, cheating, and elections to
aid the Russian asset Donald Trump. It's of course completely insane,
created and made up, as you just learned over the
last hour. But that's not important. What is important is
we have cult members in this country, brain dead drones
who believe that they are known as Democrats. Let us
(42:12):
attempt to wake them up, slowly but surely. All right,
all right, we'll do it again.
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