March 6, 2026 • 44 mins
Jesse Kelly explores how modern feminism's promises of empowerment have instead delivered widespread misery, broken families, and economic chaos for both women and men. From the divorce industry windfalls to the corporate girlboss burnout epidemic, discover the real-world failures no one in the mainstream wants to admit—and why the movement's "victory" has left everyone worse off.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Here's a truth, an uncomfortable truth, but it obviously is true.
I have said for the longest time that women, that
men and women are obviously different, with different talents made
for different things. But women have an ability, an ability
to really guide the emotions of the room, the mood
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of the room, if you will. If you have a woman,
women walking into a room and they're smiling and happy
and laughing, inevitably the mood in that room will lift.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And if you have a woman walk into the room.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
With that thundercloud over her, heead like you used to
see in the cartoons, sour dour, everything socks, it's going
to drag down.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The whole mood of the room.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You know this because you have a democrat, sadly in
your life, maybe at work maybe, and your family. When
the democrat walks in, shows up to the family reunion,
what happens, Oh, here we go, it happens now. The
truth is this is obviously not my wisdom. The truth
is this, Frankly, it's biblical. I could sit and read
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for you a million different verses from the Bible about
how a wonderful one will brighten your life. I'm paraphrasing,
and a quarrelsome one, you'll hate your freaking life horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So let's focus on where.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
We are here in the United States of America. We
have a feminism problem, and that has created a miserable
woman problem. And the thing is, it's more than just
creating a bunch of forty year olds on Xanax who
hate themselves and everyone else only they love illegals. What
it's doing is it's dragging down the mood of the
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entire country, because that's what happens when you're around miserable women. Okay,
so how do we get so many miserable women? It
was not all like this. I know they taught you
in school that women used to be kept in chains
and whipped in the country, but that's actually not true
at all. Women were quite happy in this country for
a very long time. Now they hate everything what we had.
(02:11):
Ali Besstockian, she's one of my favorites. She really got
to a point we talked about a lot on the
show here.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
She was all of us, as women have this motherly instinct,
whether or not we become biological moms. Like as far
back as we can remember, we loved dressing up our barbies.
I have three girls myself, every object in our home
becomes a baby or becomes a family, whereas with my nephews,
every object becomes a gun. And so you see the
differences so early on between boys and girls. And that
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doesn't just go away. Even if you become a high
powered career woman. That natural nurturing instinct will be channeled somewhere.
And my argument is that when it's channeled not in
the right direction, not towards children, whether they're your biological
children or whether it's children that you volunteer with or
care for in some way. When that mothering instinct is
channeled towards politics, when it's chaniled towards her profession, when
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it's channeled toward appliants, or channeled towards pets, then it
gets perverted into something that actually makes women very bitter
and very angry. And they have this mama bear instinct,
especially with politics, where the illegal alien becomes their child,
the woman seeking an abortion becomes their child. And we know,
as mama bear is that we would do anything to
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stop our child from being harmed in some way. And
I think that's why we see so much cruelty, so
much anger. You think of someone like Renee Good who
is willing to run over a police officer like it's
that mama bear instinct but channeled in these very wrong
directions that justifies this anger and cruelty and bitterness in
so many of these liberal women.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I love that word she used, perverted.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now we usually use that word differently, right, the creep
that gets arrested near a school. But what it actually
means is really to take something and divert it into
something horrible and evil, Take something normal and divert it
into something demonic. And that's what we've done with women
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in this country. Women are wonderful, should be celebrated, should
be loved, women deserve that. But women also have a
role to play in society, and that is obviously to nurture,
to support, to care. And what happens is these dirty
communists they take those wonderful instincts that all women are
born with and they pervert them. Instead of being the
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mother of a child or or something like that, instead, no, no, no,
you're the mother of the illegal immigrant rapist. This is
what we've allowed to happen for years, and the net
result is misery for everyone. We're not making babies, not
enough of them anymore because the left, the feminists, have
completely pulled themselves out of that pool. Men are more miserable,
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women are more miserable, drugged out. It is pulling all
of it down. They went after women, They did it
on purpose, and it's killing us. Now we get women
like this, joy my joice, It's not good. It's more
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than just a funny thing to joke about. It's something
we have to fix. We have to get rid of feminism.
We have to get back to being a society that
has led the right way, where men are more happy,
women are more happy, where men and women actually get
together and get married and make babies and everything is
right and we can but we can't ever get there
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without actually talking about the problem in an honest way.
How and why did we get here?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
The good news is we just have man alive. We
have some great people to talk to you about this
as Stepman's going to talk to us, Megan Basham's gonna
talk to us. We have a pastor with actual guts
who's going to join the show and talk to us
about these things. How do we fix where we are?
Where are we and how do we fix it? We
have a great special tonight and I'm right, we'll be back.
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Speaker 4 (07:26):
It's the birth way to on oath is so low
that we're facing civilizational collapse unless the birth rate.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Returns to as a sustainable level.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You've talked about it's lot. The depopulation is a big problem,
and we yes, people don't. Population collapse is one of
the biggest threats of the future of human civilization. And
that is what is going on right now.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I'm pro human I want more human beings and we're
losing them and it is not good. And it's such
an uncomfortable conversation, but we know, and as it's not
going to shy away from those joining me in and
as Stepman, senior policy analysts with the Independent Women's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Forum, and as why aren't human.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Beings having babies at the same rate they used to
have babies. It's not an American problem or a Japanese
problem or European problem.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It appears to be a worldwide problem. What's the problem?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, I mean, I think the fact that it is
worldwide makes it much harder to pin on the source
that you and I are both more than happy to blame,
which is feminism. I do think that culture is part
of it, and the feminist culture is part of the
dropping birth.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Rate, but obviously there's a larger component.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
When you see the birth rate dropping in the Middle East,
for example, I have a hard time imagining that feminism
is the primary culprit there.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean, I think it's one of the most important
questions that we can confront, but there isn't a clear
answer if it were. For example, a lot of people
want to blame it on economics, but the fact is
that during the Great Depression, the people are still having babies.
Like in the Holocaust, people were still having babies. And
it doesn't make sense to me. Even though I do
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think that we should reorganize some of our policy to
make it more family friendly, and to reorganize our tax policy,
for example, reorganize some of our paid leave policies the
way that Independent Women wants to do, I think is
a very good idea, but I don't know that that
is actually going to turn the birth rate around. We
seem to have lost our fundamental drive as a species
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and our confidence in replicating both our civilization and ourselves.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And as let's focus here at home, because you're right,
if we focus globally, I mean, it's just such a
difficult problem to solve. And the truth is, the problems,
the reasons for the problems are probably different from country
to country. Here in America, it's hard not to look
at the numbers. The numbers say that right wingers they're
getting married, they're making babies. Left wingers have simply removed
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themselves from that pool almost entirely.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Why so, I think the values in the way that
you see life obviously affects the decisions.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
That you make about your family.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
First of all, they're one of the major drivers of
both our political divide and of lack of family formation.
Let's say, and including lack of babies, is the fact
that there are simply a lot more single, childless women
hitting forty forty five than there used to be. There's
the highest in recorded American history, and those women have
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not only are they not having babies, they are also
have wildly different politics than the rest of America. If
you look at married men, unmarried men, and married women,
all of them vote GOP by anywhere from a few
percentage points like five right. There's no huge split or
a divided country, But basically all those three categories of
people lean slightly Republican. Unmarried women vote nearly seventy percent Democrat, right,
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so it's seventy thirty. They are the outliers, just like
the politics of young women, young women is the outlier.
We have all of this sort of discussion and discourse
around whether young men are getting too radicalized or going
too far right, but the reality is, when you actually
look at the political center and where politics has gone
for each one of these categories, what's happened is young
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women and then older single women vote extremely far left
in vastly disproportionate numbers to all other categories. So more
than they're married you know, women's sisters, right, more than
men who are either air married or unmarried. They really
are the democratic base and they're a very reliable one.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, So that, of course is going to beg the
question of why, because when you look at something like that, logically,
single women, unmarried women, they're frankly the most vulnerable to
things like predators, criminals, savages we've brought in from El
Salvador and things like that, and yet they vote reliably, unbelievably,
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reliably reliably for the politicians that turn those savages loose
on them. And as can you walk me through the why?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, I mean, I do think there's something to the
canard that is maybe overused, but I do think there
is something to the analysis that women without families of
their own, without husbands, without children, are channeling what are
natural female instincts of, you know, sort of empathy and
care and taking care of others. They're channeling it into
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political activism, and I think they're kind of projecting those
feelings onto I don't know a million people or billion
people in the Third World, all of whom who would
like to come to the United States. Right, But I
do think that there is this relationship between making politics
the center of your virtue signaling or you know, what
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you think about yourself as a good person, when you
don't have those kinds of responsibilities to other people in
a more direct way, you channel those feelings into these
kinds of like political outreach, let's say, or political quote
unquote empathy. But that the fact is that the results
of that quote unquote empathy are couldn't be more as
you mentioned, couldn't lack any kind of sympathy or empathy
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more for example, for the victims of people who commit crimes,
for the ordinary people, the women and children who have
to take the subway, with people who get let out
of prison. On this ideological basis, right, it just the
results of it are actually very bad for women and children,
including single women. But I tend to think that that's
kind of an unshakeable piece of our politics, that single
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women will continue to vote very far left for whatever reason.
And I think that the Republican Party should one double
down on outreach to men. I think we should show
men what they stand to gain in politics, and two
to make that delineation between married women and unmarried women,
and to press our advantage with married women who have husbands,
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who have sons right where are concerned about a lot
of the same issues. They see their pics and worldview
as connected to their family. Their interests are bound up
within their families in a way that I think either
single men or single women don't really have.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And as can you walk me through this?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So we hop in a time machine and we go
back to the nineteen hundred, right, not ancient history. Were
single women a bunch of filthy, dirty comies back then?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Two?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Or is this a feminism turned single women that way
over the last century or so? I know it's a
ham fisted way to ask the question, but you know
how dumb I am. You know what I'm saying is
this just single women or naturally that way.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Don't put yourself down. Just see I know you're a
college community college graduate. No, I can't tell you all
the way back to nine hundred because we didn't collect the
data then.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
But we started collecting.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Data on male and female voting rates in the nineteen
fifties and what you see, and we didn't really break
it down into categories then.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
But there's a strongly suggestive trying from.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
The data, which is actually, in the nineteen fifties, women
voted several points more Republican than men. Okay, so this
has not always been a feature of politics that women
are left and men are to the right. At one point,
women were voting more heavily Republican than men were, and
this is the nineteen fifties, where the Republican Party was
the more conservative of the two parties. Still, so it's
not just that it's flipped or something. As you progress
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into the seventies, you start to see what we call
now the gender voting gap, right, you start to see
that opening up, and by the time you get to
the eighties and nineties, it's very much where we see
it here, which is anywhere from ten to twelve point
gap regularly between men and women voting similarly, if you
go to nineteen fifties, see that the percentage of single
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women in society was very low, and you see a
pretty steady line up accelerating through the nineteen seventies and
eighties to the rate that we have today. So I
think it's strongly suggested by the data. I can't say
that one hundred percent proofs my thesis, but just I
think it's strongly.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Suggested by the data.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
That's what's happening is not that women are inherently left
and men are inherently right, but specifically that the percentage
of single women is going up over time, and that
they vote reliably like way skewed to the left. Now,
whether that's a feature of nature or whether that's a
particular future of our time and our politics and our
particular feminism, I don't know. I mean, you could easily
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construct an argument saying, well, single women are more vulnerable,
maybe they need more government benefits for example, and they're
going to vote always for the big government party. But
I regardless of why that exists, I do think that's
the reason for the gap which.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
There's so much. If you are on the right.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
You know, you've heard from every imaginable outlet, both left
and right, like what do we do about the women's vote,
Like how do Republicans appeal to women?
Speaker 6 (16:51):
And the reality is Republicans do appeal to women. They
just appeal to married women and single women.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
You know, obviously one third of single women are interested
in voting Republicans. Not universal, but single women are very
disproportionately left.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Does it just come down to feminism? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's probably an oversimplification because there are a lot of factors.
Does it just come down to the nineteen fifties woman
wasn't inundated with I am woman hearing me roar crap,
and the modern woman is and it's eaten her alive.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I think it's related to that, which is I think
the if you go back even to Betty for None,
who popularized feminism in the United States in the early sixties,
if you.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Go back to Betty for Donne, oftentimes the.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Most prominent women who are are like the most prominent
feminists are women, you know, not universally, but there's a
stereotype or reason. Are women who have been very disappointed
in the relationships with men. Betty, for Dad, had a
very bad marriage. She did not have a good time.
She was that her husband was abusive, at least according
to her, who knows.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
But like, the point is.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That I do think that the fact that feminism encouraged
women to see men's interests is oppositional to them, is
an obstacle to marriage, is an obstacle to family formation.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
And what we know is that it's an obstacle for
to women's happiness.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
If that's what you care about at the end of
the day, I would argue that there are more important
things in the world than women's happiness. However, if you
take that as your metric, the most unhappy, and this
is self reported, the most unhappy women in America, the
most heavily medicated, the most likely to say that they
have been diagnosed with mental health issues like depression and anxiety,
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are single women. And the happiest women in America are
married women's women with kids.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
This is a replicable of finding.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Brad Wilcox has great data on this, and even more so,
you see that since the nineteen seventies, specifically to your
point about feminism, since the nineteen seventies, when let's say
the second wave of feminism went, you know, mainstream among women.
You see that female happiness has been declining very steadily
since the nineteen seventies, both absolutely, meaning that the average
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woman in the nineteen seventy, the average woman in nineteen ninety,
the one from nineteen seventy was happier than the one
from nineteen ninety. Also relative to men, so men are
more unhappy than they are, more the situation in nineteen
seventy than they were in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
But men's happiness is actually dropped off less than women's have.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So it really is a kind of feminism is a
self harm ideology for women. It really doesn't lead to
the sort of things in life that actually, on average
tend to make women happy. And look, I guess we'll
go full circle and say that unhappy women vote.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Democrat and as appreciate you dropping some wisdom, onis to
come back soon, all right. There is most definitely a
spiritual angle to this, as we talked about a little
bit in the open. Megan Basham talks about this a lot.
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Speaker 2 (20:43):
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Speaker 1 (20:45):
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Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
As I mentioned in the opening, I don't care if
it makes you uncomfortable. There's a spiritual angle to this.
The most definitely is you can't understand this without understanding
that God made men and made women, and he made
them for each other. And you can see example after
example of it in the scriptures of when you have
a wonderful one, your life is so much brighter, and
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when you have a crappy one, well, I'm paraphrasing, but
he tells you to go sleep on the roof.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Joining me now, Megan.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Basham, author of the wonderful book Shepherds for Sale, reporter
at the Daily Wire, Megan, there is a spiritual angle
to all this feminism that has eaten up men and
ruined women's happiness and ruined men, and it just kind
of sucks.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
And I'll tell you what sucks more, Jesse, is to
know that you know, to a large degree, this was engineered.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
This was something that you know back in the nineteen sixties, the.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
The Johnson administration and the Nixon administration both worked with
the un and the Rockefeller Foundation to do things like
pull homech out of schools and to encourage women to
pursue careers. And so that's what women did, and you
now flash forward some fifty sixty years, and what you
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have are women who are increasingly unhappy. When you look
at the rates of depression among women, it has skyrocketed,
alcohol abuse has skyrocketed, rates of narcotic use has skyrocketed.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
So you see all of these indicators that women aren't happy.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
And at the same time, we have even Republicans pushing
solutions on women that are not actually what they say
they want. Even right now, you have about two thirds
to three fourths of mothers with children under eighteen who
say that they would prefer not to work full time.
And yet what are the solutions were being given. We're
being given solutions of paid daycare, of federal daycare, of
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new entitlements when we don't actually want that. What we
want is to be home and to mother our children. So,
you know, it's a really difficult problem when you, as
someone who realizes the damage that feminism has been doing
to our culture, has no side that you can really
look to for the kind of solutions that, as you said, Jesse,
are biblical, and that's a return to predominantly male leadership.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh yes, well, that's an uncomfortable conversation that certainly never
gets brought up in about ninety nine percent of churches
in this country. You'll see your pastor dancing like a
professional around that issue about every single Sunday. But it
does matter, and it's one of those conversations people don't
want to have because pastors don't want angry emails, you know,
the podcasters, writers don't want angry emails. But the truth
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is everyone was happier men and women when we just
admitted it's better for the man to lead and the
woman to love and support, and just made for a
happier society.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Well, and I think we have to acknowledge the strengths
of both sexes. There's a reason that God decreed that
women are primarily focused on raising and nurturing children, because
He gave us those hearts that feel for people. We
do tend to prioritize people's emotions and people's feelings over
the rules and over questions of justice. And that is
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why I think you see so many of these For example,
the protesters interfering with ice, they tend to be women
because they have been successfully convinced that what they're doing
is initiating a protective instinct against these innocent, maligned vulnerable immigrants.
Now we know that's not true, but that's the picture
that they've accepted. And I think that's why they are
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out on the streets and instead of at home mothering
their family.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
They're trying to mother illegal immigrants. I think that's what
we're seeing.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
And yeah, it is a problem that pastors won't talk
about this fact.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
And I think we can look at a couple of
things in the news just this week.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
It was hysterical in that fraud hearing when the woman pastor,
and you know, I come from a denomination and from
a doctrinal background where I don't believe in women pastors
to begin with, but you know, she sat there and
it was very evident that she had very little biblical understanding.
She could not identify the parable of the talents when
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it was being read to her. So what I think
we see is that those kinds of quote unquote pastors,
they deal in emotional slogans, they deal in, you know,
the kind of lines that you would post on Instagram
under a gauzy pink picture of you know, a cup
of coffee and a picture of the Bible. That's the
depth that you get there. And that was so revealed
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in that exchange. And part of the problem is that
women don't like to make people feel uncomfortable, and that
is not the job of a shepherd. The job of
a pastor is sometimes you have to confront sin, you
have to call out lies. And I think part of
the drift that we have seen in the church, which
sets the tone for the culture, is that pastors have
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not been willing to do that, and instead, those women
who you talked about, they're on the line, they're calling
their pastors, they're badgering them. And that explains so much
of the leftward drift that we've seen in the church
is because the pastor it has abdicated their responsibility and
their leadership to women.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Megan, a little birdie whispered in my ear that you
are actually writing a book about how feminism is destroying
the West. If you can confirm these rumors and then
explain yourself, I would appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Yes, that's absolutely true. So you know the working title
right now. I'm not sure this will will ultimately go with,
but we've been calling it medicated, miserable, and alone, how
the female on happiness crisis is destroying the West, because
that's what's happening, Jesse. Part of the reason is, I
can give you the example of when we look at
the cornerstone of a philosophy for American law, it's something
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called Blackstone's ratio, and it was a principle that Benjamin
Franklin voiced where he said, we would rather see one
hundred guilty men go free than convict an innocent man
and punish an innocent man. With feminism, and what we've seen,
for example, in Title nine and even in our formal courts,
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is this reversal where feminism says we would rather see
one hundred innocent men punished to ensure we get that
guilty man. And so that has been the reversal of
the bedrock of the American and Western understanding of law
and justice, and it's being reversed in favor of this
feminist idea of instead we have to do things like
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protect traumatized victims. So that means, for example, that an
accused person doesn't have the right to confront their accuser
if it's going to make the accuser feel bad or
feel afraid. And so these are the kinds of shifts
that we're seeing that are destroying the West because we
are throwing out hundreds of years of jurisprudence and understanding
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of what justice means in order to accommodate these sensitive
feminine feelings.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Is there some sort of a connection with the lgbt
Q demon mob freak movement and feminism? I mean we
see them aligned at their at their at their gross
little parades and things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Are they are they? Are they? One? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (28:20):
And you know, we just talked about that woman pastor,
and that's one of the issues. I can point to
almost every single denomination that eventually shifted on the question
of women in the pastorate, and they changed their minds
and they said no, even though scripture and the Apostle
Paul tell us that the pulpit is reserved for men.
When they made that shift to women in the pastorate,
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those same denominations, the mainline denominations, United Methodist Church, the
Episcopalian Church, they eventually also embraced LGBTQ affirmation. And I
think it is because both of those issues spring from
the same tree. It's a question of what ordered gender is,
about what instructions and what order does God lay out
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for the different sexes.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Now, if we're going to get that wrong with men
and women.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
At that point, it makes sense that we are willing
to shift the boundaries on all kinds of questions of
sexuality and gender. So I absolutely do not think that
you can untangle those two issues, and it's why I
think they so often go hand in hand. You know,
just a quick example, if you look at the transgenderism issue,
for example, poles were showing that men from the get
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go never backed, for example, allowing biological men to play
in women's sports. Men never backed the idea of transitioning
minor children it's changing, but women did. The majority of
women did back that. They backed it in greater percentage
points than men. And I think that tells you something.
That is what people like Alibeth Stucky have been calling
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toxic empathy, because what it shows us is that these
women felt like we are being kind, we are being
loving by indulging what a confused child is telling us,
or what a perverse adult is telling us. And so
I think that showed the damage and the destruction that
the God given good of female tenderness and sensitivity and empathy.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Those things are good.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
But when you exploit a good that God has given us,
when you twist it, it becomes something wicked.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It can become the most wicked thing.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, Megan, I'm going to ask this question, and it's
one that I've always found to be so incredibly fascinating.
I talk about it on my show sometimes. You see,
you've talked about how miserable these feminists are, how they're
drugged out, They're miserable, they hate themselves, they hate everything
around them. So why do young women when they look
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at someone like you and then they look at a
miserable feminist.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Why choose that path?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean, it's not like there's happy ones a freaking
miserable with crew cuts and sue boots and scream and
all the freaking time and add are all scripts.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
They're all miserable.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Why would you choose that past just for your own
happiness if you're a young lady, Why walk down the
road where everyone on the road hates themselves?
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Well, you know, I think it's easy to dump on
this generation of young women for that, Jesse, but I
want to actually turn the focus back on those of
us on the right and within the church who know
the truth and have been reticent and shy about speaking
it because it's culturally unpopular or uncomfortable. So, you know,
we have had church leaders who instead of acknowledging we
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have an incredibly feminized culture now that is dominated by
women in just about every field. You know. You look
at women now earning the majority of PhDs, the majority
of degrees. They are dominating the medical field, the legal field,
just any center of power is now tending to be
female dominated.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
And the church's answer to that has.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Been to stand up and say, how can we mirror
that and discuss how we're going to put women in
positions of power as well, instead of speaking truth and saying, women,
this is not the thing that is going to bring
you your highest level of happiness and life satisfaction.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
So the church has been unwilling to say that.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
And then you look at the GOP and the political right,
and they have been unwilling to talk about the kinds
of solutions that would satisfy that created order of what
women are designed to be.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Instead, what they offer is just.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Sort of a bud light version of the full beer
that the Democrats are offering. I think that's a significant
problem too. You cannot convince women of the truth if
no one is willing to speak it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's pretty well said. You know what. We're signing off
with that because I can't top that. Megan.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I appreciate you very much. Go buy her book Shepherds
for Sale. It's very very good, Megan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Appreciate you. All Right, we're going to talk to a
pastor who's done afraid to speak the truth. Next.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
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Speaker 2 (33:05):
And I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I hold Vietnam veterans in such high regard for all
the terrible things they had to go through, and to
be honest, if you talk to them, they still go
through today, still ravages their mind today. Did you know
that the CEO of Puretalk, he did two tours with
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hire Americans? No one does that. They did it long
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slash Jesse TV. Have you ever looked around and said,
why is everything gay?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Now? It's awful.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
You can't watch the news, you can't take your kids
to a new children's movie without a couple lesbians making
out in the park. Everything's freaking gay now. Well, maybe
because we as men shirked our duties and handed the
entire country over to women. Joining me now, Pastor Jay
Chase Davis, author of a wonderful book Offensive Christianity. Pastor,
it's easy to point fingers at women and say you
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did this, you did this, But women are not.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Commanded to lead. We are commanded to lead. Why are
we not leading?
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Well, it's been a long series of failures on the
part of men. And I don't say that to great
men or beat them down, but it is well overdue
time for men to kind of assert themselves.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And rise up.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
That's what I talk about in my book, equipping men
on how to kind of regain their strength as men.
They're authority as men. Of course, what you and I
would and all Christians would agree on is that as
men lead, it's a blessing. This is not to the
detriment of women. That's actually to love women, to help
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them flourish as God designed them to flourish. And so
a lot of it has to do with a lot
of wicked ideology that has come up in the past
which has really demurred and suppressed the kind of masculine
agencies the way I describe it, the ability to assert oneself,
to enter into conflict. Men are are hardwired for aggression,
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to go out and have ambition to try to conquer things.
This is the natural kind of way that God made men.
Now some of that, of course, has been corrupted by
the fault, and men can do great deeds of evil,
and so we as Christians believe that should be stopped
and we should not promote that. We should promote righteousness.
And so we want to encourage men to not give
into lies that they have no agency, that they can't
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be asserd of. And unfortunately, too many Christian churches teach
a gospel, teach a version of the faith. It seems
like men aren't welcome, that men can't come in and thrive,
they're not educated on fatherhood, their responsibilities as a husband,
how to advance in the workplace, anything like that. Instead
of the taught a version of Christianity which basically teaches
men they need to become women, and the best and
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more mature version of themselves would be as if they
could just adopt the feminine nature, be more inclusive, be
more empathetic, be more nurturing, and that's what it means
to be a good Christian. In fact, that goes so
far as to teach passive pacifism in these churches where
we can't even defend ourselves because apparently this is what
Jesus taught. He didn't but this is what they would
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promote this kind of church. And so there's a lot
of churches that need to take responsibility but also teach
the truth of God's work regarding the nature of men
and women, and particularly to men. Blaming our problems on
women is not going to be helpful. In fact, that's
part of what Adam did in the garden. We don't
want to blame women.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's easy.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
And I see this going around sometimes online in other places,
like you know, you know, it's the women's fault and
a woman's fault, and we just you know, if they
could do better, and it's like sure, I bet they
have issues, and we know they have issues that they
need to deal with. But if men can simply assert
themselves and recover their kind of biblical understanding of what
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it means to be a man and get involved and
go on offense for the truth of God, then things
will radically change. We need to discard a vision of
manhood which teaches them that they're either toxic, they're defunct,
that they're the very natures that make the men are
somehow Unchristian.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Pastor, what would you say to a man right now?
Bec so, I'm certain they are out there who feels weak,
feels like he's not strong enough to stand up to
all this, and it wants to change.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And of course it's inside of him, that's how God
made him.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But he doesn't even know where to begin. Can you
give him some guidance, some biblical guidance.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Absolutely. The first thing you must do is get right
with your Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. That is like
a fundamental I'm a pastor, that is what I'm going
to promote and preach. You've got to get right with
their Lord and save Jesus Christ by dying to sin
and being raised to a new life. You need to
put your faith in Christ and repent of your disobedience,
because part of being a man is taking responsibility. You
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have to be able to take responsibility for how you've
displeased the Lord in unrighteousness and aim to please him
in your life. Of course, out of that flows action.
We are to be men of action. In my book
and other places I get into this, I say, look, men,
we need to be action oriented. We need to have agency,
and part of that is going to be having agency
over our veried bodies. And so a lot of times,
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I mean, you talk to any guy who started working
out or getting into fitness. It can be very hard,
intimidating to get into these activities. But I think it's
crucial for the development of the soul of men to
be fit, to be healthy, to not be obese, to
not be lazy in a glutton. We need to get
men active again. They need to be working out, getting
involved in physical activity. Many men are set intary today.
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They're bored by their jobs. They're sitting in front of screens.
It's not inspiring. An easy way to do that is
to get in the gym, get strong. And what we
find actually in social science studies and physiological studies is
that as you work out, as you develop that competency
that actually leads to better life outcomes, not just physically
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but mentally, more mental clarity, less depression, and you begin
to have a view of life that's less passive. And
I think for a lot of men, they just feel like,
all this is happening around me, What can I do?
I have no control. That's the exact wrong attitude to
have as men. As Christian men, we have an attitude
of what does God giving me the steward and I'm
going to maximize the profits on that to the best
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of my abilities. Jesus always rebukes the one who buries
his talents because he's passive and he's scared and he
doesn't know what to do. He rewards the one who invests,
who advances, and who builds the kingdom wherever he goes.
And so, whether you have lots of influence or little influence,
the best thing you can do today is take action.
Stop ruminating, and stop having all these grat's about I
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wish I could have done this differently, or what can
I do? Get up off the sofa, work out, go
bench press, do a push up, do something, get active
and then start leading your family. Simple ways to lead
your family and family worship. I mean that can be
scary for a man who may not know his Bible.
But simply reading the Bible out loud, praying for your
family and over your family, and then leading them in
a song like Amazing Grace or something like this. This
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is a simple way to lead your family spiritually because
your family needs that. They long for that presence from you,
and you can just do these simple activities and reject
kind of the fear of rejection that a lot of
men have. They're afraid what if I'm being confident? You
know what if I embarrass myself? Get over it. We
need to be men. Yeah, you may make a fool
of yourself. Why shouldn't we be worried about this. We
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need to live according to God's word to advance his
kingdom in every possible avenue.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Hey, I make a fool of myself every day. Doesn't
stop me. Pastor, I appreciate you very much. His book
is offensive Christianity. I would highly recommend it. We have
a light in the mood. Will enjoy next. All Right,
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So that's that's a lot of talk about feminism and
things like that. But that might lead you to believe
that I don't support women. Well, I attended you remember
Women's March, that big feminist movement. Maybe you don't remember this.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Run for president please right now, thank you, thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
He's going down tonight.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
Tell me how many women are going to die for
the Senate concerns.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I have no idea how many women?
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Well do what about minorities?
Speaker 9 (42:01):
You can take the stand and don't hand Yeah, oh gosh,
work people.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Probably a man can't.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Right, They not talk to him.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
This is Jesse Kelly. He said he's undercovered. He tweeted here,
I'm undercovered. Conservative fuck Conservative radio.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It appears on talking to.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
This man is a liar. He's moping. Okay, he is
pretending to be a protester.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Women.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
We will not allow him to go.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Undercover and the one of us and take our.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Words out of context.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
This is Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
He's a drunk talk word cloud.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Do not talk to this.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Cloud Twitter.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Who take a stand and don't hand.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
This bus right here behind me is literally killing the
Eskimo today.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That is correct. That's what Trump twenty twenty look like,
and that's what Trump Boy looks like. Right there.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
It is rushing count moistless gas, heating up the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
And talking the polars. The poles do.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Not h that's my senators, because.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I have a right to You have a right to
be there. That's your statement. Yes.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Absolutely. Do you feel like she objectified you?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
I feel like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I feel like, yeah, you're right, she's not listening to you.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's pathetic trouble. That's suitable
Here's a truth, an uncomfortable truth, but it obviously is true.
I have said for the longest time that women, that
men and women are obviously different, with different talents made
for different things. But women have an ability, an ability
to really guide the emotions of the room, the mood
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of the room, if you will. If you have a woman,
women walking into a room and they're smiling and happy
and laughing, inevitably the mood in that room will lift.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And if you have a woman walk into the room.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
With that thundercloud over her, heead like you used to
see in the cartoons, sour dour, everything socks, it's going
to drag down.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The whole mood of the room.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You know this because you have a democrat, sadly in
your life, maybe at work maybe, and your family. When
the democrat walks in, shows up to the family reunion,
what happens, Oh, here we go, it happens now. The
truth is this is obviously not my wisdom. The truth
is this, Frankly, it's biblical. I could sit and read
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for you a million different verses from the Bible about
how a wonderful one will brighten your life. I'm paraphrasing,
and a quarrelsome one, you'll hate your freaking life horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So let's focus on where.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
We are here in the United States of America. We
have a feminism problem, and that has created a miserable
woman problem. And the thing is, it's more than just
creating a bunch of forty year olds on Xanax who
hate themselves and everyone else only they love illegals. What
it's doing is it's dragging down the mood of the
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entire country, because that's what happens when you're around miserable women. Okay,
so how do we get so many miserable women? It
was not all like this. I know they taught you
in school that women used to be kept in chains
and whipped in the country, but that's actually not true
at all. Women were quite happy in this country for
a very long time. Now they hate everything what we had.
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Ali Besstockian, she's one of my favorites. She really got
to a point we talked about a lot on the
show here.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
She was all of us, as women have this motherly instinct,
whether or not we become biological moms. Like as far
back as we can remember, we loved dressing up our barbies.
I have three girls myself, every object in our home
becomes a baby or becomes a family, whereas with my nephews,
every object becomes a gun. And so you see the
differences so early on between boys and girls. And that
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doesn't just go away. Even if you become a high
powered career woman. That natural nurturing instinct will be channeled somewhere.
And my argument is that when it's channeled not in
the right direction, not towards children, whether they're your biological
children or whether it's children that you volunteer with or
care for in some way. When that mothering instinct is
channeled towards politics, when it's chaniled towards her profession, when
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it's channeled toward appliants, or channeled towards pets, then it
gets perverted into something that actually makes women very bitter
and very angry. And they have this mama bear instinct,
especially with politics, where the illegal alien becomes their child,
the woman seeking an abortion becomes their child. And we know,
as mama bear is that we would do anything to
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stop our child from being harmed in some way. And
I think that's why we see so much cruelty, so
much anger. You think of someone like Renee Good who
is willing to run over a police officer like it's
that mama bear instinct but channeled in these very wrong
directions that justifies this anger and cruelty and bitterness in
so many of these liberal women.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I love that word she used, perverted.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now we usually use that word differently, right, the creep
that gets arrested near a school. But what it actually
means is really to take something and divert it into
something horrible and evil, Take something normal and divert it
into something demonic. And that's what we've done with women
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in this country. Women are wonderful, should be celebrated, should
be loved, women deserve that. But women also have a
role to play in society, and that is obviously to nurture,
to support, to care. And what happens is these dirty
communists they take those wonderful instincts that all women are
born with and they pervert them. Instead of being the
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mother of a child or or something like that, instead, no, no, no,
you're the mother of the illegal immigrant rapist. This is
what we've allowed to happen for years, and the net
result is misery for everyone. We're not making babies, not
enough of them anymore because the left, the feminists, have
completely pulled themselves out of that pool. Men are more miserable,
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women are more miserable, drugged out. It is pulling all
of it down. They went after women, They did it
on purpose, and it's killing us. Now we get women
like this, joy my joice, It's not good. It's more
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than just a funny thing to joke about. It's something
we have to fix. We have to get rid of feminism.
We have to get back to being a society that
has led the right way, where men are more happy,
women are more happy, where men and women actually get
together and get married and make babies and everything is
right and we can but we can't ever get there
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without actually talking about the problem in an honest way.
How and why did we get here?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
The good news is we just have man alive. We
have some great people to talk to you about this
as Stepman's going to talk to us, Megan Basham's gonna
talk to us. We have a pastor with actual guts
who's going to join the show and talk to us
about these things. How do we fix where we are?
Where are we and how do we fix it? We
have a great special tonight and I'm right, we'll be back.
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Speaker 4 (07:26):
It's the birth way to on oath is so low
that we're facing civilizational collapse unless the birth rate.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Returns to as a sustainable level.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You've talked about it's lot. The depopulation is a big problem,
and we yes, people don't. Population collapse is one of
the biggest threats of the future of human civilization. And
that is what is going on right now.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I'm pro human I want more human beings and we're
losing them and it is not good. And it's such
an uncomfortable conversation, but we know, and as it's not
going to shy away from those joining me in and
as Stepman, senior policy analysts with the Independent Women's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Forum, and as why aren't human.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Beings having babies at the same rate they used to
have babies. It's not an American problem or a Japanese
problem or European problem.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It appears to be a worldwide problem. What's the problem?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, I mean, I think the fact that it is
worldwide makes it much harder to pin on the source
that you and I are both more than happy to blame,
which is feminism. I do think that culture is part
of it, and the feminist culture is part of the
dropping birth.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Rate, but obviously there's a larger component.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
When you see the birth rate dropping in the Middle East,
for example, I have a hard time imagining that feminism
is the primary culprit there.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean, I think it's one of the most important
questions that we can confront, but there isn't a clear
answer if it were. For example, a lot of people
want to blame it on economics, but the fact is
that during the Great Depression, the people are still having babies.
Like in the Holocaust, people were still having babies. And
it doesn't make sense to me. Even though I do
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think that we should reorganize some of our policy to
make it more family friendly, and to reorganize our tax policy,
for example, reorganize some of our paid leave policies the
way that Independent Women wants to do, I think is
a very good idea, but I don't know that that
is actually going to turn the birth rate around. We
seem to have lost our fundamental drive as a species
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and our confidence in replicating both our civilization and ourselves.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And as let's focus here at home, because you're right,
if we focus globally, I mean, it's just such a
difficult problem to solve. And the truth is, the problems,
the reasons for the problems are probably different from country
to country. Here in America, it's hard not to look
at the numbers. The numbers say that right wingers they're
getting married, they're making babies. Left wingers have simply removed
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themselves from that pool almost entirely.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Why so, I think the values in the way that
you see life obviously affects the decisions.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
That you make about your family.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
First of all, they're one of the major drivers of
both our political divide and of lack of family formation.
Let's say, and including lack of babies, is the fact
that there are simply a lot more single, childless women
hitting forty forty five than there used to be. There's
the highest in recorded American history, and those women have
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not only are they not having babies, they are also
have wildly different politics than the rest of America. If
you look at married men, unmarried men, and married women,
all of them vote GOP by anywhere from a few
percentage points like five right. There's no huge split or
a divided country, But basically all those three categories of
people lean slightly Republican. Unmarried women vote nearly seventy percent Democrat, right,
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so it's seventy thirty. They are the outliers, just like
the politics of young women, young women is the outlier.
We have all of this sort of discussion and discourse
around whether young men are getting too radicalized or going
too far right, but the reality is, when you actually
look at the political center and where politics has gone
for each one of these categories, what's happened is young
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women and then older single women vote extremely far left
in vastly disproportionate numbers to all other categories. So more
than they're married you know, women's sisters, right, more than
men who are either air married or unmarried. They really
are the democratic base and they're a very reliable one.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, So that, of course is going to beg the
question of why, because when you look at something like that, logically,
single women, unmarried women, they're frankly the most vulnerable to
things like predators, criminals, savages we've brought in from El
Salvador and things like that, and yet they vote reliably, unbelievably,
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reliably reliably for the politicians that turn those savages loose
on them. And as can you walk me through the why?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, I mean, I do think there's something to the
canard that is maybe overused, but I do think there
is something to the analysis that women without families of
their own, without husbands, without children, are channeling what are
natural female instincts of, you know, sort of empathy and
care and taking care of others. They're channeling it into
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political activism, and I think they're kind of projecting those
feelings onto I don't know a million people or billion
people in the Third World, all of whom who would
like to come to the United States. Right, But I
do think that there is this relationship between making politics
the center of your virtue signaling or you know, what
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you think about yourself as a good person, when you
don't have those kinds of responsibilities to other people in
a more direct way, you channel those feelings into these
kinds of like political outreach, let's say, or political quote
unquote empathy. But that the fact is that the results
of that quote unquote empathy are couldn't be more as
you mentioned, couldn't lack any kind of sympathy or empathy
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more for example, for the victims of people who commit crimes,
for the ordinary people, the women and children who have
to take the subway, with people who get let out
of prison. On this ideological basis, right, it just the
results of it are actually very bad for women and children,
including single women. But I tend to think that that's
kind of an unshakeable piece of our politics, that single
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women will continue to vote very far left for whatever reason.
And I think that the Republican Party should one double
down on outreach to men. I think we should show
men what they stand to gain in politics, and two
to make that delineation between married women and unmarried women,
and to press our advantage with married women who have husbands,
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who have sons right where are concerned about a lot
of the same issues. They see their pics and worldview
as connected to their family. Their interests are bound up
within their families in a way that I think either
single men or single women don't really have.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And as can you walk me through this?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So we hop in a time machine and we go
back to the nineteen hundred, right, not ancient history. Were
single women a bunch of filthy, dirty comies back then?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Two?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Or is this a feminism turned single women that way
over the last century or so? I know it's a
ham fisted way to ask the question, but you know
how dumb I am. You know what I'm saying is
this just single women or naturally that way.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Don't put yourself down. Just see I know you're a
college community college graduate. No, I can't tell you all
the way back to nine hundred because we didn't collect the
data then.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
But we started collecting.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Data on male and female voting rates in the nineteen
fifties and what you see, and we didn't really break
it down into categories then.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
But there's a strongly suggestive trying from.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
The data, which is actually, in the nineteen fifties, women
voted several points more Republican than men. Okay, so this
has not always been a feature of politics that women
are left and men are to the right. At one point,
women were voting more heavily Republican than men were, and
this is the nineteen fifties, where the Republican Party was
the more conservative of the two parties. Still, so it's
not just that it's flipped or something. As you progress
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into the seventies, you start to see what we call
now the gender voting gap, right, you start to see
that opening up, and by the time you get to
the eighties and nineties, it's very much where we see
it here, which is anywhere from ten to twelve point
gap regularly between men and women voting similarly, if you
go to nineteen fifties, see that the percentage of single
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women in society was very low, and you see a
pretty steady line up accelerating through the nineteen seventies and
eighties to the rate that we have today. So I
think it's strongly suggested by the data. I can't say
that one hundred percent proofs my thesis, but just I
think it's strongly.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Suggested by the data.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
That's what's happening is not that women are inherently left
and men are inherently right, but specifically that the percentage
of single women is going up over time, and that
they vote reliably like way skewed to the left. Now,
whether that's a feature of nature or whether that's a
particular future of our time and our politics and our
particular feminism, I don't know. I mean, you could easily
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construct an argument saying, well, single women are more vulnerable,
maybe they need more government benefits for example, and they're
going to vote always for the big government party. But
I regardless of why that exists, I do think that's
the reason for the gap which.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
There's so much. If you are on the right.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
You know, you've heard from every imaginable outlet, both left
and right, like what do we do about the women's vote,
Like how do Republicans appeal to women?
Speaker 6 (16:51):
And the reality is Republicans do appeal to women. They
just appeal to married women and single women.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
You know, obviously one third of single women are interested
in voting Republicans. Not universal, but single women are very
disproportionately left.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Does it just come down to feminism? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's probably an oversimplification because there are a lot of factors.
Does it just come down to the nineteen fifties woman
wasn't inundated with I am woman hearing me roar crap,
and the modern woman is and it's eaten her alive.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I think it's related to that, which is I think
the if you go back even to Betty for None,
who popularized feminism in the United States in the early sixties,
if you.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Go back to Betty for Donne, oftentimes the.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Most prominent women who are are like the most prominent
feminists are women, you know, not universally, but there's a
stereotype or reason. Are women who have been very disappointed
in the relationships with men. Betty, for Dad, had a
very bad marriage. She did not have a good time.
She was that her husband was abusive, at least according
to her, who knows.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
But like, the point is.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That I do think that the fact that feminism encouraged
women to see men's interests is oppositional to them, is
an obstacle to marriage, is an obstacle to family formation.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
And what we know is that it's an obstacle for
to women's happiness.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
If that's what you care about at the end of
the day, I would argue that there are more important
things in the world than women's happiness. However, if you
take that as your metric, the most unhappy, and this
is self reported, the most unhappy women in America, the
most heavily medicated, the most likely to say that they
have been diagnosed with mental health issues like depression and anxiety,
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are single women. And the happiest women in America are
married women's women with kids.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
This is a replicable of finding.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Brad Wilcox has great data on this, and even more so,
you see that since the nineteen seventies, specifically to your
point about feminism, since the nineteen seventies, when let's say
the second wave of feminism went, you know, mainstream among women.
You see that female happiness has been declining very steadily
since the nineteen seventies, both absolutely, meaning that the average
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woman in the nineteen seventy, the average woman in nineteen ninety,
the one from nineteen seventy was happier than the one
from nineteen ninety. Also relative to men, so men are
more unhappy than they are, more the situation in nineteen
seventy than they were in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
But men's happiness is actually dropped off less than women's have.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So it really is a kind of feminism is a
self harm ideology for women. It really doesn't lead to
the sort of things in life that actually, on average
tend to make women happy. And look, I guess we'll
go full circle and say that unhappy women vote.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Democrat and as appreciate you dropping some wisdom, onis to
come back soon, all right. There is most definitely a
spiritual angle to this, as we talked about a little
bit in the open. Megan Basham talks about this a lot.
She's going to join us next. I love sleeping. It's
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been one of my favorite things. And I don't know,
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don't you just feel like a completely different person than
when you're tired all the time, sucking down coffee all
day long. Man, you need to try some dream powder
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what happens is natural ingredients. You sip on the cup
of hot chocolate, and for me it's twenty thirty minutes later.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Let's get a little tired.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Can I go call in a bed and boom them out?
And when I wake up the next day, I feel fantastic,
not that heavy, groggy, miserable, feeling like you took something
to sleep. I just feel great. I don't even get
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Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
As I mentioned in the opening, I don't care if
it makes you uncomfortable. There's a spiritual angle to this.
The most definitely is you can't understand this without understanding
that God made men and made women, and he made
them for each other. And you can see example after
example of it in the scriptures of when you have
a wonderful one, your life is so much brighter, and
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when you have a crappy one, well, I'm paraphrasing, but
he tells you to go sleep on the roof.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Joining me now, Megan.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Basham, author of the wonderful book Shepherds for Sale, reporter
at the Daily Wire, Megan, there is a spiritual angle
to all this feminism that has eaten up men and
ruined women's happiness and ruined men, and it just kind
of sucks.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
And I'll tell you what sucks more, Jesse, is to
know that you know, to a large degree, this was engineered.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
This was something that you know back in the nineteen sixties, the.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
The Johnson administration and the Nixon administration both worked with
the un and the Rockefeller Foundation to do things like
pull homech out of schools and to encourage women to
pursue careers. And so that's what women did, and you
now flash forward some fifty sixty years, and what you
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have are women who are increasingly unhappy. When you look
at the rates of depression among women, it has skyrocketed,
alcohol abuse has skyrocketed, rates of narcotic use has skyrocketed.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
So you see all of these indicators that women aren't happy.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
And at the same time, we have even Republicans pushing
solutions on women that are not actually what they say
they want. Even right now, you have about two thirds
to three fourths of mothers with children under eighteen who
say that they would prefer not to work full time.
And yet what are the solutions were being given. We're
being given solutions of paid daycare, of federal daycare, of
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new entitlements when we don't actually want that. What we
want is to be home and to mother our children. So,
you know, it's a really difficult problem when you, as
someone who realizes the damage that feminism has been doing
to our culture, has no side that you can really
look to for the kind of solutions that, as you said, Jesse,
are biblical, and that's a return to predominantly male leadership.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh yes, well, that's an uncomfortable conversation that certainly never
gets brought up in about ninety nine percent of churches
in this country. You'll see your pastor dancing like a
professional around that issue about every single Sunday. But it
does matter, and it's one of those conversations people don't
want to have because pastors don't want angry emails, you know,
the podcasters, writers don't want angry emails. But the truth
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is everyone was happier men and women when we just
admitted it's better for the man to lead and the
woman to love and support, and just made for a
happier society.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Well, and I think we have to acknowledge the strengths
of both sexes. There's a reason that God decreed that
women are primarily focused on raising and nurturing children, because
He gave us those hearts that feel for people. We
do tend to prioritize people's emotions and people's feelings over
the rules and over questions of justice. And that is
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why I think you see so many of these For example,
the protesters interfering with ice, they tend to be women
because they have been successfully convinced that what they're doing
is initiating a protective instinct against these innocent, maligned vulnerable immigrants.
Now we know that's not true, but that's the picture
that they've accepted. And I think that's why they are
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out on the streets and instead of at home mothering
their family.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
They're trying to mother illegal immigrants. I think that's what
we're seeing.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
And yeah, it is a problem that pastors won't talk
about this fact.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
And I think we can look at a couple of
things in the news just this week.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
It was hysterical in that fraud hearing when the woman pastor,
and you know, I come from a denomination and from
a doctrinal background where I don't believe in women pastors
to begin with, but you know, she sat there and
it was very evident that she had very little biblical understanding.
She could not identify the parable of the talents when
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it was being read to her. So what I think
we see is that those kinds of quote unquote pastors,
they deal in emotional slogans, they deal in, you know,
the kind of lines that you would post on Instagram
under a gauzy pink picture of you know, a cup
of coffee and a picture of the Bible. That's the
depth that you get there. And that was so revealed
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in that exchange. And part of the problem is that
women don't like to make people feel uncomfortable, and that
is not the job of a shepherd. The job of
a pastor is sometimes you have to confront sin, you
have to call out lies. And I think part of
the drift that we have seen in the church, which
sets the tone for the culture, is that pastors have
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not been willing to do that, and instead, those women
who you talked about, they're on the line, they're calling
their pastors, they're badgering them. And that explains so much
of the leftward drift that we've seen in the church
is because the pastor it has abdicated their responsibility and
their leadership to women.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Megan, a little birdie whispered in my ear that you
are actually writing a book about how feminism is destroying
the West. If you can confirm these rumors and then
explain yourself, I would appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Yes, that's absolutely true. So you know the working title
right now. I'm not sure this will will ultimately go with,
but we've been calling it medicated, miserable, and alone, how
the female on happiness crisis is destroying the West, because
that's what's happening, Jesse. Part of the reason is, I
can give you the example of when we look at
the cornerstone of a philosophy for American law, it's something
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called Blackstone's ratio, and it was a principle that Benjamin
Franklin voiced where he said, we would rather see one
hundred guilty men go free than convict an innocent man
and punish an innocent man. With feminism, and what we've seen,
for example, in Title nine and even in our formal courts,
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is this reversal where feminism says we would rather see
one hundred innocent men punished to ensure we get that
guilty man. And so that has been the reversal of
the bedrock of the American and Western understanding of law
and justice, and it's being reversed in favor of this
feminist idea of instead we have to do things like
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protect traumatized victims. So that means, for example, that an
accused person doesn't have the right to confront their accuser
if it's going to make the accuser feel bad or
feel afraid. And so these are the kinds of shifts
that we're seeing that are destroying the West because we
are throwing out hundreds of years of jurisprudence and understanding
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of what justice means in order to accommodate these sensitive
feminine feelings.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Is there some sort of a connection with the lgbt
Q demon mob freak movement and feminism? I mean we
see them aligned at their at their at their gross
little parades and things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Are they are they? Are they? One? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (28:20):
And you know, we just talked about that woman pastor,
and that's one of the issues. I can point to
almost every single denomination that eventually shifted on the question
of women in the pastorate, and they changed their minds
and they said no, even though scripture and the Apostle
Paul tell us that the pulpit is reserved for men.
When they made that shift to women in the pastorate,
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those same denominations, the mainline denominations, United Methodist Church, the
Episcopalian Church, they eventually also embraced LGBTQ affirmation. And I
think it is because both of those issues spring from
the same tree. It's a question of what ordered gender is,
about what instructions and what order does God lay out
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for the different sexes.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Now, if we're going to get that wrong with men
and women.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
At that point, it makes sense that we are willing
to shift the boundaries on all kinds of questions of
sexuality and gender. So I absolutely do not think that
you can untangle those two issues, and it's why I
think they so often go hand in hand. You know,
just a quick example, if you look at the transgenderism issue,
for example, poles were showing that men from the get
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go never backed, for example, allowing biological men to play
in women's sports. Men never backed the idea of transitioning
minor children it's changing, but women did. The majority of
women did back that. They backed it in greater percentage
points than men. And I think that tells you something.
That is what people like Alibeth Stucky have been calling
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toxic empathy, because what it shows us is that these
women felt like we are being kind, we are being
loving by indulging what a confused child is telling us,
or what a perverse adult is telling us. And so
I think that showed the damage and the destruction that
the God given good of female tenderness and sensitivity and empathy.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Those things are good.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
But when you exploit a good that God has given us,
when you twist it, it becomes something wicked.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It can become the most wicked thing.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, Megan, I'm going to ask this question, and it's
one that I've always found to be so incredibly fascinating.
I talk about it on my show sometimes. You see,
you've talked about how miserable these feminists are, how they're
drugged out, They're miserable, they hate themselves, they hate everything
around them. So why do young women when they look
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at someone like you and then they look at a
miserable feminist.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Why choose that path?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean, it's not like there's happy ones a freaking
miserable with crew cuts and sue boots and scream and
all the freaking time and add are all scripts.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
They're all miserable.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Why would you choose that past just for your own
happiness if you're a young lady, Why walk down the
road where everyone on the road hates themselves?
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Well, you know, I think it's easy to dump on
this generation of young women for that, Jesse, but I
want to actually turn the focus back on those of
us on the right and within the church who know
the truth and have been reticent and shy about speaking
it because it's culturally unpopular or uncomfortable. So, you know,
we have had church leaders who instead of acknowledging we
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have an incredibly feminized culture now that is dominated by
women in just about every field. You know. You look
at women now earning the majority of PhDs, the majority
of degrees. They are dominating the medical field, the legal field,
just any center of power is now tending to be
female dominated.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
And the church's answer to that has.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Been to stand up and say, how can we mirror
that and discuss how we're going to put women in
positions of power as well, instead of speaking truth and saying, women,
this is not the thing that is going to bring
you your highest level of happiness and life satisfaction.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
So the church has been unwilling to say that.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
And then you look at the GOP and the political right,
and they have been unwilling to talk about the kinds
of solutions that would satisfy that created order of what
women are designed to be.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Instead, what they offer is just.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Sort of a bud light version of the full beer
that the Democrats are offering. I think that's a significant
problem too. You cannot convince women of the truth if
no one is willing to speak it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's pretty well said. You know what. We're signing off
with that because I can't top that. Megan.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I appreciate you very much. Go buy her book Shepherds
for Sale. It's very very good, Megan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Appreciate you. All Right, we're going to talk to a
pastor who's done afraid to speak the truth. Next.
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Speaker 2 (34:09):
Now? It's awful.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
You can't watch the news, you can't take your kids
to a new children's movie without a couple lesbians making
out in the park. Everything's freaking gay now. Well, maybe
because we as men shirked our duties and handed the
entire country over to women. Joining me now, Pastor Jay
Chase Davis, author of a wonderful book Offensive Christianity. Pastor,
it's easy to point fingers at women and say you
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did this, you did this, But women are not.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Commanded to lead. We are commanded to lead. Why are
we not leading?
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Well, it's been a long series of failures on the
part of men. And I don't say that to great
men or beat them down, but it is well overdue
time for men to kind of assert themselves.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And rise up.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
That's what I talk about in my book, equipping men
on how to kind of regain their strength as men.
They're authority as men. Of course, what you and I
would and all Christians would agree on is that as
men lead, it's a blessing. This is not to the
detriment of women. That's actually to love women, to help
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them flourish as God designed them to flourish. And so
a lot of it has to do with a lot
of wicked ideology that has come up in the past
which has really demurred and suppressed the kind of masculine
agencies the way I describe it, the ability to assert oneself,
to enter into conflict. Men are are hardwired for aggression,
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to go out and have ambition to try to conquer things.
This is the natural kind of way that God made men.
Now some of that, of course, has been corrupted by
the fault, and men can do great deeds of evil,
and so we as Christians believe that should be stopped
and we should not promote that. We should promote righteousness.
And so we want to encourage men to not give
into lies that they have no agency, that they can't
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be asserd of. And unfortunately, too many Christian churches teach
a gospel, teach a version of the faith. It seems
like men aren't welcome, that men can't come in and thrive,
they're not educated on fatherhood, their responsibilities as a husband,
how to advance in the workplace, anything like that. Instead
of the taught a version of Christianity which basically teaches
men they need to become women, and the best and
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more mature version of themselves would be as if they
could just adopt the feminine nature, be more inclusive, be
more empathetic, be more nurturing, and that's what it means
to be a good Christian. In fact, that goes so
far as to teach passive pacifism in these churches where
we can't even defend ourselves because apparently this is what
Jesus taught. He didn't but this is what they would
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promote this kind of church. And so there's a lot
of churches that need to take responsibility but also teach
the truth of God's work regarding the nature of men
and women, and particularly to men. Blaming our problems on
women is not going to be helpful. In fact, that's
part of what Adam did in the garden. We don't
want to blame women.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's easy.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
And I see this going around sometimes online in other places,
like you know, you know, it's the women's fault and
a woman's fault, and we just you know, if they
could do better, and it's like sure, I bet they
have issues, and we know they have issues that they
need to deal with. But if men can simply assert
themselves and recover their kind of biblical understanding of what
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it means to be a man and get involved and
go on offense for the truth of God, then things
will radically change. We need to discard a vision of
manhood which teaches them that they're either toxic, they're defunct,
that they're the very natures that make the men are
somehow Unchristian.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Pastor, what would you say to a man right now?
Bec so, I'm certain they are out there who feels weak,
feels like he's not strong enough to stand up to
all this, and it wants to change.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And of course it's inside of him, that's how God
made him.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But he doesn't even know where to begin. Can you
give him some guidance, some biblical guidance.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Absolutely. The first thing you must do is get right
with your Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. That is like
a fundamental I'm a pastor, that is what I'm going
to promote and preach. You've got to get right with
their Lord and save Jesus Christ by dying to sin
and being raised to a new life. You need to
put your faith in Christ and repent of your disobedience,
because part of being a man is taking responsibility. You
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have to be able to take responsibility for how you've
displeased the Lord in unrighteousness and aim to please him
in your life. Of course, out of that flows action.
We are to be men of action. In my book
and other places I get into this, I say, look, men,
we need to be action oriented. We need to have agency,
and part of that is going to be having agency
over our veried bodies. And so a lot of times,
(38:37):
I mean, you talk to any guy who started working
out or getting into fitness. It can be very hard,
intimidating to get into these activities. But I think it's
crucial for the development of the soul of men to
be fit, to be healthy, to not be obese, to
not be lazy in a glutton. We need to get
men active again. They need to be working out, getting
involved in physical activity. Many men are set intary today.
(38:58):
They're bored by their jobs. They're sitting in front of screens.
It's not inspiring. An easy way to do that is
to get in the gym, get strong. And what we
find actually in social science studies and physiological studies is
that as you work out, as you develop that competency
that actually leads to better life outcomes, not just physically
(39:19):
but mentally, more mental clarity, less depression, and you begin
to have a view of life that's less passive. And
I think for a lot of men, they just feel like,
all this is happening around me, What can I do?
I have no control. That's the exact wrong attitude to
have as men. As Christian men, we have an attitude
of what does God giving me the steward and I'm
going to maximize the profits on that to the best
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of my abilities. Jesus always rebukes the one who buries
his talents because he's passive and he's scared and he
doesn't know what to do. He rewards the one who invests,
who advances, and who builds the kingdom wherever he goes.
And so, whether you have lots of influence or little influence,
the best thing you can do today is take action.
Stop ruminating, and stop having all these grat's about I
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wish I could have done this differently, or what can
I do? Get up off the sofa, work out, go
bench press, do a push up, do something, get active
and then start leading your family. Simple ways to lead
your family and family worship. I mean that can be
scary for a man who may not know his Bible.
But simply reading the Bible out loud, praying for your
family and over your family, and then leading them in
a song like Amazing Grace or something like this. This
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is a simple way to lead your family spiritually because
your family needs that. They long for that presence from you,
and you can just do these simple activities and reject
kind of the fear of rejection that a lot of
men have. They're afraid what if I'm being confident? You
know what if I embarrass myself? Get over it. We
need to be men. Yeah, you may make a fool
of yourself. Why shouldn't we be worried about this. We
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need to live according to God's word to advance his
kingdom in every possible avenue.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Hey, I make a fool of myself every day. Doesn't
stop me. Pastor, I appreciate you very much. His book
is offensive Christianity. I would highly recommend it. We have
a light in the mood. Will enjoy next. All Right,
(41:17):
So that's that's a lot of talk about feminism and
things like that. But that might lead you to believe
that I don't support women. Well, I attended you remember
Women's March, that big feminist movement. Maybe you don't remember this.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Run for president please right now, thank you, thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
He's going down tonight.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
Tell me how many women are going to die for
the Senate concerns.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I have no idea how many women?
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Well do what about minorities?
Speaker 9 (42:01):
You can take the stand and don't hand Yeah, oh gosh,
work people.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Probably a man can't.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Right, They not talk to him.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
This is Jesse Kelly. He said he's undercovered. He tweeted here,
I'm undercovered. Conservative fuck Conservative radio.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It appears on talking to.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
This man is a liar. He's moping. Okay, he is
pretending to be a protester.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Women.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
We will not allow him to go.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Undercover and the one of us and take our.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Words out of context.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
This is Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
He's a drunk talk word cloud.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Do not talk to this.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Cloud Twitter.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Who take a stand and don't hand.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
This bus right here behind me is literally killing the
Eskimo today.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That is correct. That's what Trump twenty twenty look like,
and that's what Trump Boy looks like. Right there.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
It is rushing count moistless gas, heating up the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
And talking the polars. The poles do.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Not h that's my senators, because.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I have a right to You have a right to
be there. That's your statement. Yes.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Absolutely. Do you feel like she objectified you?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
I feel like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I feel like, yeah, you're right, she's not listening to you.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's pathetic trouble. That's suitable
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