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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Dome is doing a bunch of interviews and they're not
going well. We'll talk to John Phillips about that. Lee
Smith thinks the FBI might have some blood.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
On their hands.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We're going to talk legal and local and we'll make
fun of Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Oh, that's coming up. And I'm right.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Kamala Harris is losing the campaign for the presidency right now.
She simply is. And no, I'm not going off a
poll number. So do you see this poll? What about
that pole?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Do you see that? It's not that you know?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
If you watch, if you pay attention to campaigns, they'll
tell you if they're winning, if they're losing, who they
think they're behind with. You can tell by where they
spend their time and where they spend their money. Honestly,
campaigns are very similar to you, to me, what do
you truly value? What do I truly value? Well, where
do you spend your time? Where do you spend your money?
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That's what you true value? Now, the Harris campaign, the view,
they're going on the view. Don't worry, we have some
clips of things.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The view.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Stephen Colbert sixty minutes, Howard Stern, Wait a minute, let's
be clear about this election day is when, not a
month from now, right now. Because of early voting in
this country and the importance of early voting and how
many people vote early, election day is today and tomorrow
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and the next day. It's every day between now and
the official election day.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The election is now. It is happening right now.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And if you're Kamala Harris, you should be in a
place where you're banking on certain things. You're banking on
certain voting coalitions. You know, the people who watch The View,
they are all a bunch of crazy liberal white women.
They're the most committed communists in the United States of America.
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That's the audience of the View. Why in the world
would she be going on you, Stephen Kobe, or why
would she be doing these things? Well, it tells you
all you need to know. Whatever the public poll numbers
are or public perception is, the Kamala Harris campaign is
a failing campaign as of right now. I'm not saying
she's gonna lose. I hope she will. I think she will.
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But right now they're failing, and they know they're failing,
so they're trying to shore up a coalition they should
already have. But here is the problem. And honestly, I
know this is gonna sound weird. Don't think I've gone
soft on you. I almost feel bad for her staffers
and her advisors. They're all dirty comedies. So I don't
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really feel bad, but I almost feel bad because, just
like we used to talk about when Joe Biden was
trying to run again, you can cover, and you can fake,
and you can lie, and you can splice up a
little video for Instagram here, and you can run a
propaganda campaign there, and you can do all these things.
And they have been doing all these things. You can
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do all that some point you need the candidate to perform.
You need the candidate to perform.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Think about it like.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Boxing. Everyone knows about boxing. I'm not saying you're a
boxing expert. Maybe you are, but everyone knows what it is,
right and so leading up to a major fight, you
want this major fight to go well for your fighter.
You can do all kinds of stuff. You can buy
all kinds of media to get the crowd on his side.
You can play it up at the press conference. You
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can do everything you can to anger the other guy.
You can surround him with the best trainers, the best
people the most film study, the best strategy sessions, and
all these things can help and they can make a difference.
But in the end, Ding, Ding, you gotta go fight,
and if your fighter can't fight, there's very little you
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can do to overcome that. Mamala Harris is sitting down
for friendly interviews. She knows the questions that are going
to be asked ahead of time, and she answers questions
about the border like this.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
There was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across
the border the first three years of your administration. As
a matter of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year
of President Trump. Was it a mistake to loosen the
immigration policies as much as you did.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It's a long standing problem and solutions are at hand,
and from day one, literally we have been offering solutions.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
What I was asking was, was it a mistake to
kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Think the policies that we have been proposing are about
fixing a problem, not promoting a problem.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Okay, but the numbers did quadruple.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
And the numbers today because of what we have done,
we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half.
We have cut the flow of sentinel by half, but
we need Congress to be able to act to actually
fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Look, I don't I'm not even going to be a
partisan about this. Maybe you're one of the dirty comedists
who watches this show. If you're watching that, is that
person ready to become president of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Of course not. It's a disaster. She was asked about
the economy.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Remembered every single poll shows immigration and inflation, essentially the economy,
as being the top issues for voters. Republican independent Democrats
hate the country, so we're not going to count them,
but Republicans independence more specifically, they're worried about it. Inflation
and immigration. Democrats just want to murder their babies. That's
all they care about. So we'll talk about independence right now.
(06:05):
If you're someone sitting at home, maybe you personally don't
like Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
He's do this, he's to that. I get all that.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Maybe you're sitting there, maybe you have your ballot in hand.
Remember people have their ballots in hand right now. Today's
election day, and you're stressing about how your wife just
got home from the grocery store. She couldn't afford groceries.
You're worried about making the rent. And you see Kamala
Harris ask the question about the economy on sixty minutes,
and she answers the question like this, how can you
vote for her?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That your economic plan would add three trillion dollars to
the federal deficit over the next decade, How are you
going to pay for that?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Okay, So the other economists that have reviewed my plan
versus my opponent and determined that my economic plan would
strengthen America's economy. His would weaken it.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
With pardon me, mad, Advice President, the question was, how
are you going to pay for it?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well, one of the things I'm going to make sure
that the richest among us who can afford it, pay
their fair share in taxes. It is not right that
teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax
rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations. And I plan
on making that fair.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But we're dealing with the real world here.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
But the real world includes.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
How are you going to get this through Congress?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You know, when you talk quietly with a lot of
folks in Congress, they know exactly what I'm talking about
because their constituents know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She can't do it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
She can't fight all the fluff, all the puff, all
the managers, all the press conferences, all that everything should
just she can't do it. And here's something else we
have to show you. This from the view, campaigns have
been shrunk is how I would probably describe it. And
this is what I mean by campaigns being shrunk. Not
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necessarily timeframe wise, but most people don't consume the news
in the traditional way they used to. You get home
long day, you have dinner, sit down, you turn on NBCABCCBS.
That's a very old school way of thinking. You're watching
the first right now. I bet you there's a fifty
to fifty chance you're not even on a television. You
of course can watch the first on TV, but maybe
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you're sitting here right now watching on your phone. Maybe
it's on your iPad while you're working out. People consume
the news on demand in their own way now, So
what that means for candidates is campaigns have been shrunk
to either promote or avoid fifteen to thirty second soundbites.
That's the idea around a campaign. Either you have this
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money line, even if everything else was dumb, and that's
what you want to go viral, so I'll be watching it,
Oh my gosh, it's on Facebook, or you want to
avoid the disastrous line that will go viral and everyone
will be playing it. Kamala Harris has a problem. She's
Joe Biden's vice president. People in this country, not me,
but people personally.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Like Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I hate him, not set that aside, but they despise
his policies. They're very, very unhappy. She got asked about
what she would do differently. This is the fifteen seconds
she couldn't afford.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
President Biden during the past four years? There is not
a thing that comes to mind in terms of and
I've been a part of most of the decisions that
have had impact.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
It is what sometimes it is like nine o'clock Eastern time,
ten nine fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I don't have o'clock in here by now. I would
bet money the Trump campaign already has that little ten
to fifteen second clip going everywhere across the internet. Probably
they've already purchased TV ads.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
What a does that she is?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm not even gonna say it made you uncomfortable because
I love it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
John Phillips is right a lot too. He knows a
lot about Kamala Harris. We're gonna talk to John Phillips
about her.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
In a moment.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Before we talk to John, I want to talk to
you about why I'm so pets up and full of energy.
It's not just because I'm excited about the election or
how bad Dome was doing. It's because I have a
good night's sleep every night, every single night, and when
there's a night where I feel like I'm not gonna
In fact, this was last night yesterday. Maybe you saw
during the show I was sipping on a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I love coffee so much I went an afternoon cup.
Problem is I'm forty three, not twenty three. If I
do that, I won't be able to sleep well. But
I have dream powder from being I have a little
cup of hot chocolate before bed, only it's dream powder
in there. It's delicious, but it puts me to sleep
no matter what, and I wake up feeling good no
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matter what. That's the difference with dream powder. Go get
some of it in your life. You will thank me
for it. You'll always have a bag of it. Go
to shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly, we'll be back.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say. Okay,
they say that the reason so many voters don't know
you is that you have changed your position on so
many things. You are against fracking, now you're for it.
You supported looser immigration policies, now you're tightening them up.
(11:37):
You're for medicare for all. Now you're not so many
that people don't truly know what you believe or what
you stand for. And I know you've heard that.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
In the last four years, I have been Vice President
of the United States, and I have been traveling our
country and I have been listening to folks and seeking
what is possible in terms of ground. I believe in
building consensus. We are diverse people geographically regionally in terms
of where we are in our.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Backgrounds intruding me now, my friend host of the John
Phillips Show, John Phillips. Obviously, John, there's a bunch of
things we could take away from just that one clip
that the flip flopp in the apocacy, all the standards day,
all the stuff we talk about, all the time and
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setting all that stuff aside. John, What Hammers being hardest
is that that was a.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Fairly benign question.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
People were acting like it's real journalism, that's a basic
journalism question, and.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The answer was awful.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
She's running a billion dollar campaign, staffers advisors that they
had to know that was coming.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
What is wrong with these people?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Well, she has split more times in the Chevrolet corvet.
And that's the reason that she had a tough time
with that question, because it's just true. What she has
going for her is that her supporters don't care. The
only thing they care about is that she can beat
the evil Orange Man. And if she has to repudiate
every position that she's ever taken, if she has to
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flip flop across the board, then that's what she has
to do to win because winning is the most important
thing for them. Which, okay, that will make the Democratic
base happy as long as you do okay in the
polls and you ultimately end up beating him. The problem
that she has is with anyone who's not already in
her corner, because people who aren't political animals, people who
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don't wake up every day and read the papers and
watch shows like this people who just go to work
and take their kids to school and those sorts of things.
Those people just want to know, what are you going
to do for me? What's in it for me? And
she has no answers for those people. If you're one
of those people and you just saw the clip that
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you just played, I don't know how you get motivated
to go vote for this woman. And that's the problem
that she has, and that's what they're gonna have to
figure out this last month of the campaign.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And I think that's why so much panic is set in.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
John, you mentioned the panic.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm hearing the
exact same thing. I know you're hearing the same rumors.
There's panic Democrat staffords. We have leaked phone calls. Oh my,
she's underwater, she's underwater. But look, not long ago, I
watched my son not study for his chemistry exam. I
told him for three nights to study. He didn't study,
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and he had a C in the class and he
bombed it. And it was the predictability of all of
it that floored me. The fact that he should have
known that's how that was going to go. Everyone knew
Kamala Harris campaign. She's a war on. She wasn't popular beforehand.
She tried to run a primary and she bombed. She's bombed.
As vice president, if I'd pinned down John Phillips and
asked him as as they appointed her, how her presidential
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campaign would go, you would have explained back then exactly
how it was going to go. So if you can
see it, and I can see it, my freaking dog
can see it, why didn't.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
They Because I don't think they were on the same page.
You had a nominee, Joe Biden, who didn't want to
leave the stage. You had Democratic Party power brokers who
were convinced that he couldn't win, with Nancy Pelosi being
the hatchet woman who came in and forced Joe Biden out. Well,
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Nancy Pelosi went on TV and I couldn't exactly figure
out why. She just kept kicking him in the crotch
and kicking him in the croach and kicking him in
the crotch. You got what you wanted. You wanted him
out of the race. He's out of the race. Declare victory,
enjoy yourself, and move on. But she had all this
animosity towards him, she had all this anger towards him.
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She just did interview after interview after interview where she
just kept disrespecting him. And then I think I figured
it out, which is he was not supposed to endorse Kamala.
He was supposed to endorse an open democratic convention, where
then the power brokers could pick whoever it is that
they determined was the most electable. If you go back
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to that day that he got out of the race,
it was two statements that were put together kind of hastily,
including one that Nancy Pelosi said she didn't think he
even wrote himself. He got out of the race, and
then like a short period of time later, he came
out and said, and I endorse Kamala. Well, because of
the calendar, that took an open convention off the table,
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and they were stuck with her. In many ways, I
think Kamala is Joe's revenge for doing what they did
to him, And who knows, maybe he'll end up getting
the last.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Laugh after all.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, now that is an interesting theory, and I had
not considered that before, but it does seem it was
a little vindictive. And Leeci, who monitors everything she says,
this woman says nothing by accident went on a kick
Joe Biden in the nuts campaign on the media forgetting
why language everybody, but that's exactly what she did, and
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I couldn't figure out the why. So if they didn't
want Dome, do you have some idea of who the
powers that be did want?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Well, my guess is Joshapiro. I mean, he's certainly the
most successful Democratic governor or, at least the most popular
Democratic governor. Let's face it, this time around, Pennsylvania is
to twenty twenty four what Florida was in two thousand.
Whoever wins Pennsylvania will likely win the presidential race. He's
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a popular governor of Pennsylvania. If you put him on
the ticket and that helps you win the Bellweather state,
the state that's going to determine the winner, seems like
a no brainer to me. If he's the nominee, even
better because you don't have to run his relationship with
the voters through some other person who they may or
may not like. If the Democrats had Josh Shapiro at
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the top of their ticket, they probably be comfortably ahead
in Pennsylvania. And if they're comfortably ahead in Pennsylvania. I
think they probably win the election. Now, if I had
to put money down, I would say they lose Pennsylvania.
And I think if you lose Pennsylvania, you lose the election.
That decision that they made for vice president and the
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decision to go with Kamala over an open convention, those
two decisions or decisions they're going to regret.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Let's circle back to Kamala Harris, because obviously everyone's talking
about her today and this disastrous press tour she's doing,
which is the friendliest of friendly press tours.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's the view, it's Howard.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Stern a couple questions on sixty minutes, if that weren't
even that difficult, and yet she's.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Bombing so so badly.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And John, I don't understand this woman almost sixty years old.
If you do anything, if you're a mechanic, a homemaker,
or whatever, you do anything for long enough, you'll be
able to do certain things without thinking about it. She
can't talk. That's what her job has been for thirty years.
Why can't she even talk?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
When she ran for office here in California, I had
friends who were on in the press corps who were
covering her races whether it be for Attorney General or
US Senate.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And the most.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Common answer that Kamalo would give when they'd ask her
a question was, my staff will get back to you
with an answer. And because we're a one party state,
the Democrats control access to everything. If you caused too
much of a stink about an answer like that, they
would just cut you out of the information loop. So
she was able to get away with it. Well, if
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that's how you're able to get away with it for
years and years and years, you just expect that's how
the world is. Well, when you're running for president, that's
not exactly how the world is. And when they ask
a follow up question, the wheels just come off.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And that's what you're seeing happen with her right now
in real time.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
You also know that her staff doesn't trust her, which
is one of the reasons that they haven't allowed her
to go out and do so many of these interviews.
They feel that their back is up against the wall
now and they have no other choice, but they've kept
her away from all of these shows, in all of these.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Interviews for a very long time.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well, if you ever played golf forever, you know, played
any sort of athletic sport. You know that if you
don't have any reps, if you have them an out
there swing in the club, if you don't have your timing,
and then you need to go out. You need to
play with your buddies and not embarrass yourself. You're out
of luck because you're just rusty. And she's just rusty.
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She hasn't done this in a very long time, and
now she's doing it, and every time she sits down
for an interview, she steps on a different rate.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So I realized they were desperate just as we wrap
up here. But this media tour, obviously they were very
focused with who they lined it up with and make
sure it's all going to be very friendly.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I know she needs some help right now, but this was.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
A mistake, right John, If you don't have a candidate
who can talk, if she can't do it, then rolling
her out there to talk is setting her up for failure.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Did they just set her up for failure?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, they feel like they have no other choice.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
I mean, you look at where she is compared to Joe,
and she's doing worse across the board. She's doing worse
with latinos, she's doing worse with black, she's doing worse with.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Arabs. Just go down the list.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
It's just essentially single women who are keeping her viable
as a candidate, and college educated white specifically whites with
graduate school degrees.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
So you either need to go out, you need to
expand the tent, or you need to just take the L.
And they're not going to take the L. So they're
sending her out there hoping that she'll have a good
interview or have some moment that's vile role and she'll
bring some of these people back. But it's October now,
and if you're still having trouble with black voters or
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Latinos or Arabs and you're the Democratic candidate, I don't
know if it's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's election day because of early voting. It's election day now, today, tomorrow.
That all right, John Phillips, I gotta let you go.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Thank you, my brother.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's you almost if they weren't terrible people. Like I
said in the opening, you almost feel bad for the
staffers of Kamala Harris because you just don't.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You don't have the fighter, you don't have the guy.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Anyway, it's doctor Leise Smith. Is he Ron really trying
to murder Donald Trump? Or is it the FBI? Before
we do that, let's do this. Let's talk to you
about your money and your values, your morals. You know
your money needs to follow those. My money needs to
follow those. I'm not lecturing anybody. I'm not perfect at
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this either. But when we have something like a cell phone,
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your values. I have Pure Talk when I pay my
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Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's cake, go do it. We'll be bad.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Do we have a real close ally in prime Minister?
It and Yahoo.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I think, with all due respect, the better question is
do we have an important alliance between the American people
and the Israeli people? And the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Question is yes, pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
There's lots of interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Stuff going on with this administration, Iran assassination attempts, and
we're going to bring in an interesting guy to talk
about it, my friend Lee Smith, of course, author of
the book Disappearing to President.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I really read everything Lee Smith writes.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So, Lee, I have been fascinated just trying to be
as dispassionate about this topic as humingly possible. I've been
fascinated watching the White House since October the seventh try
to do this balancing act and walk this tight rope
of yeah, it's bad to massacre a thousand Jews and
burn babies in the oven. At the same time, those
people kind of had it coming. And I love the Palestinians.
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It has been fascinating to watch the messaging.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Well, I mean it's big trouble for the United States.
I mean not just this particular administration, because I mean,
Israel is an important ally and when you start undermining
allies the way that the Biden Harris administration has done
you send a message to lots of people around the world,
not least of which are the bad guys, the people
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who have us and they're crosshairs. I mean, the one
really excellent thing that's happened here, and it's a terrible
thing for an American to have to say, but that
the government of Israel, the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Etna,
who has ignored Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and has
gone about dismantling the Iranian access which has caused problems,
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has caused problems for the United States since nineteen seventy eight,
and they have a tremendous amount of American blood on
their hands. So while we celebrate the accomplishments of Benjamin Netanya,
who we rue the fact that our own government has
not supported an important ally and has in fact undermined
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it and continues to fund the different terror enclaves, including
Lebanon and Gaza, where people again, where people are plotting
against Americans as well as American allies.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Lee, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Ask a question you and I've discussed before privately and
on camera, But to what end it's hard for logical, normal,
decent human beings to look at such a pro Iranian
regime like Obama was, and of course now like Biden was,
which that's the same thing. But it's hard for people
to understand the why. There's no question this country has
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been enemy of ours for decades, as you rightly pointed out,
they have gallons of American blood. How many American service
members are maimed or dead courtesy of Kassan Solmani's training
in Iraq. I go down the list, But why the
sympathy affinity for Iran? Explain it to us in a
way we can understand.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
I'll start with a dispassionate response, because that's kind of
how it starts. It's an academic theory, and the academic
theory is. The academic theory is you balance off different
powers in a region to bring stability.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
It's academic, it's foolish, and this may be the way
that Europeans sought in the seventeenth and eighteenth century, trying
to balance off different small war in European states. The
fact is that the United States is a superpower, and
our foreign policy is best conducted when we identify different
allies who not only share our value and with whom
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our interests often intersect, but who are powerful and who
can get the job done, and that's why Israel is
so important. But back to the academic theory very briefly,
So the idea is to balance off different powers against
each other. You want to have everyone more or less
as strong as everyone else, so they've all been deterred.
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The problem with that is, though, is that you wind
up empowering different people who are actually adversarial to your
own interest. And that's what's happened by assisting the Islamic
Republic of Iran. This is what's happened. The fact is
there's also another element, and I'm not going to be
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dispassionate about this, is but Barack Obama is a leftist
right and the Islamic Republic of Iran has been a
leftist cause since nineteen seventy eight, nineteen seventy nine, the
date of the Islamic Revolution. And why is that because
they're anti American at its core. Anti Israel stuff is
an effect of that. They hate Israel because Israel is
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allied with the United States. It's primarily us that they
hate because we represent the West. So for the left
to align itself with the Islamic Republic is what's been
going on for nearly half a century.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
So these two different things intersect.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
The academic stupidity about trying to balance off a different region,
which would be fine if we were a tiny European
state in the eighteenth century, but we're not. We're the
world's greatest nation and a superpower, a formidable power, the
world's greatest power.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Ever.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
So again there's the academic theory and there's the leftism,
and both of these things have led to profound moral
rot inside of Washington, d C. Particularly on the left
and right now zeroed in on sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Lee, I guess we're going to get a little philosoph
offical today, just because I love to pick your brain
about this stuff. I understand why I leftist to communists
like Obama, you know, the Susan Riceis of the world.
I understand why they would embrace Islamists, because you know,
communists are just about power and destruction and the horrible
evil commedy things.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
What I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Understand fully is why the Islamists would embrace communists. Those
two things don't necessarily seem to line up.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Explain that for me.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Well, they will to a certain to a certain extent.
I mean, this is what happened with the Islamic with
the Islamic Revolution. I mean, all of the communists thought
that they were you know, the communists thought, Yay, finally
we've got a we've got a horse, wee can ride
into power, meaning the Islamist and then of course, within
two years and within two years they were flushed at
not only of.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Not only out of the regime, but out of the country.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
A lot of the different not in the United States,
but if you look in Europe and a lot of
the Scandinavian countries, all those Iranians there are their parents
and grandparents are Communists, and that's why they got fleshed
out of Iran.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
So it works for a bit.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
It's a temporary arrangement, and that's presumably what we're seeing
right now. Remember that it's not as if the Iranians
have shown vast amounts of gratitude to Barack Obama and
the Obama team for all the sanctions relief that we've provided.
We're legalizing their nuclear weapons program. Remember, they're still extremely hostile,
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so you know, the communists can can coddle them can
coddle their green friends. That's what it's called the Red
Green Alliance, of course, so the reds can coddle their
green friends, but at a certain point the Greens get angry,
they take the power, and they start throttling the Reds.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, very reminiscent of the Nazi Japanese Alliance, both of
whom fighting a war of racial superiority. That is just
so odd how either of them thought that was going
to work out in the end. Anyways, setting that aside,
you wrote a fascinating piece about Trump in Iran, the
FBI's potential involvement and all that.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Lee break it down for us.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Yeah, I want to make very clear first of all,
is I think there was a little bit of misunderstanding
about the piece. The Iranian regime is definitely keen to
kill Donald Trump, right, and we know that not from
what the FBI has said, but from what the Iranians
have said themselves. Why Because Donald Trump went after the Iranians,
he killed their terror chief Customs Sullymani, and the Iranians
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have also tried to kill other Trump officials, including Secretary
of State Mike Pompeo, Iran envoy Brian Hook and two
of Trump's national security advisors, John Bolton and Robert O'Brien,
So they definitely want to go after Trump. But what
happened here was is that Biden's DNI briefed the Trump
campaign at the end of September that there was an
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Iranian plot. Well, if you go through the documents, what
you find out it's not an Iranian plot at all.
There is no evidence that went through official Iranian channels,
and every other example we have of genuine Iranian plots,
we see very clearly how it went through official Iranian
channels IRGC, especially kuods force.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
This is how it happens.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
This was a Pakistani national who entered or who tried
to enter the country in Texas in April twenty twenty four.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Jesse, here's the insane thing about the story.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
Customs that the border was not going to let this
guy enter again, a Pakistanian national was not going to
let him enter. FBI Dallas Dallas office sponsored his entry
into the government and he stayed in this country for
several months before he was arrested astonishingly July twelfth, the
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day before the first attempt on Donald Trump's life. So
there's no evidence I mean, you and I can talk
about that, and I'm sure your audience has You know,
your audience has been following this closely too. What happened
with the first assassination attempt July thirteenth? Was this strictly
in competence? Was it worse than that? Was it malevolence?
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What I'm saying here is we don't have any evidence
of why this man, of whether this man was set
up to kill Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
I think that's not the case.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
But I think that the FBI has lots of questions
they need to answer about the SF Merchant case. And
that's the name of the Pakistani national that the FBI
let in in April, and that's who they arrested in
the Iran plots. The plot was hatched by the FBI.
So again, Christopher Ray needs to answer questions. Unfortunately, not
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all of our elected representatives have done a very good
job of holding his feet to the fire, which is
where they need to be.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
For us to get the answers that we that we deserve.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yes, I'm sure the House and Senate g ope will
be cracking down on him in any moment.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Lee. Why are the intelligence agencies?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Why do they hate Donald Trump so much how much,
I don't know. We can decide how much we believe
they're involved in these attempts, But why do they hate
him so much?
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Well, you know, Jesse, I'm working on a follow up
to that piece, and one of the things that one
of the things that I'm finding is one of the
reasons they're cooking this stuff up is they want to
keep and you might remember some of the reporting right
right after the January thirteenth attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania on
President Trump's life. The Secret Service is keen to keep
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Trump out of the away from these big rallies, right
because this is I mean, this is this is how
Trump breathes, It's how he lives. He feeds off of
this energy and he and he feeds his audiences with energy.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
It's amazing. I call it the Church of America.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
There's actually a section there and in my book Disappearing
to President on Trump rallies, which are just amazing American alebrations,
and this is what the regime wants to take away
from Donald Trump. So I think that this is one
of the reasons that they're doing and also, of course
they want to deflect attention away from the fact that
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it's it's Democrats who are trying to kill Donald Trump. Right,
Iranians hate Donald Trump, they'd like to kill him. But
the attempts on Donald Trump's life were made by Harris supporters.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
So that's one reason.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
But again I think that a very big reason is
they want to keep Donald Trump hid an underground, as
they did in twenty twenty with COVID. They want to
lock them up in a basement. And that's not where
Donald Trump lives. Donald Trump is like he's like the
bald eagle who needs to spread his wings and be outside,
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sharing laughs and sharing information with Americans.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
But that's what they want to do.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
They want to ground him and turn him into Joe Biden,
or they want to turn him into Kamala Harris, who's
basically running the Biden campaign in a basement.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
That is fascinating. I hadn't really even considered that angle
of it. Of course, they just want to hide him
in a house. Lee Smith, thank you, my brother. As always,
all right, let's talk some legal and local next. We
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love to talk presidential politics. We're obsessed with it. Look
I talk a lot of presidential politics myself, but what
is it you and I discuss all the time on
this show, Legal and Local. That is how we will
take this country back locally drain the swamp. You can't
drain the swamp from the swamp. You have to take
back the country locally. Take back your community, take back
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your town, take back your county. That those are wins
we can have and it's a way we can save
the United States of America. Joining me now, Kimberly Herman,
executive director of the Southeastern Legal Foundation. Okay him, speaking
of Legal Local, You're knee deep in a segregation critical
race theory case right now.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
What's this all about?
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Yeah, so, I mean talking about taking your communities back
and your schools back. We're representing a brave teacher up
in Evanston, Illinois. She filed a complaint with the Department
of Education all the way back in twenty nineteen because
her school district is segregating teachers and segregating students. When
I say segregation, I am talking These teachers go into
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a staff meeting. The white teachers are put into one room,
the non white teachers are put into another room, and
then they are taught lessons about how to bring race
into the classroom.
Speaker 10 (38:36):
So she filed this complaint. The Department of Education agreed.
Speaker 9 (38:40):
With her, but then Biden took office and the Biden
Harris Department of Education is now saying segregation's okay. They
dismissed basically this case and they have ignored the letter
of finding. So we filed a federal lawsuit on her
behalf and now we're fighting tooth and nail to stop
segregation up in Evanston.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Illinois, separating the white teachers from the non white teachers.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
What a what a country we live in?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Now?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Okay, let's talk about this Riley gains case. You're involved
in Riley Gaines, what's doing a little speaking tour?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
What are you doing?
Speaker 9 (39:16):
Yeah, so, Riley Gaines, as everyone knows, is going around
the country raising awareness about Title nine and trying to
stop boys from being in girls' locker rooms, trying to
stop boys from being a girls' sports and turning point.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
USA wanted to bring her to speak on the.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Campus at the University of New Mexico, and they said,
you can bring her to speak, but you have to
pay us ten thousand dollars first to have security fees.
While all the time, while there's a drag Queen event
going on on campus with no security fees. So of
course we filed a lawsuit, and the judge there has
issued a preliminary injunction. We're very excited about this, saying
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that the school can't discriminate based on viewpoint, that it
can't charge one group ten thousand dollars and another group
nothing bring speakers onto campus. And so we're going to
keep on litigating it. But you know, Riley's got to
be able to speak on campus. We have to be
able to raise awareness to Title nine and gender ideology
and this obsession with transiting all of our young children
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across the country.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
You take on these universities, how deep does the rot go?
Because it's easy if you spend too much time focusing
on the headline stories and online videos of some dirty
comedy professor, it's easy to come to the conclusion we
should just essentially raise America's university system to the ground
and start over again.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
But how deep does the rock go? Kim? You're in it?
Speaker 10 (40:39):
Yeah, I mean you're not off base here in saying that.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
I mean the rot goes all the way down to
our student governments. Right, We've got kids that are coming
up in this k through twelve system.
Speaker 10 (40:50):
They're being taught to hate one another.
Speaker 9 (40:52):
They are being taught that America should be a communist
and socialist country.
Speaker 10 (40:57):
Right, they are believing in all of this.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
It's what they're taught every single day, and then they
go off to college they silence the other students. So
it's not just the college professors, it's not just the administration.
We certainly need alternate and alternative options, right.
Speaker 10 (41:12):
We need to see more of what we're seeing in Florida.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
We need to see more of what we see at
schools like Hillsdale and University of Austin and things like that,
where kids can.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
Go to college and they can speak their mind.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
They're not discriminated or punished because they simply don't agree
with those on the progressive left. You want to take
our country in a completely different direction, Kim.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
What's going on with Title nine? I feel like that
was hot in the news about six months a year
ago and that it's just kind of disappeared.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
What's going on with it?
Speaker 9 (41:44):
Yeah, we've definitely got to keep this at the forefront.
And I know that you guys talk about it a lot,
but Title nine, it's our law that protects our girls
and our women's on college campuses. The Biden Harris administration
is trying to change the definition of sex to now
mean gender identity.
Speaker 10 (41:59):
So if your daughter.
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Wants to speak out about having to change in a
locker room with a boy, she is now going to
be the one punished. So we filed a lawsuit on
behalf of Young America's Foundation and Moms for Liberty. There
are twenty six states and many other organizations across this
lawsuits suing also, and the judges across this country are saying,
whoa Biden Harris Department of Education? Slow down, stop. You
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cannot change the definition of sex to mean gender identity.
And so we're continuing to fight those We know we're
going to have to take it up to the Supreme Court,
but they will not stop on the left until they
change that definition, and we will not stop until we
win and make it so that they can't do that.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Speaking of Moms for Liberty, I love them, and I
love that a bunch of moms got sick and tired
of all the crap they saw during COVID and they
rose up and fought back. But is that anger? Is
that activism? Do you see it fading? Away or are
they just as angry and involved as they were. Essentially,
I want everyone to stay involved, not just get angry
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because your kid had to wear two masks and social studies.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Are people still mad.
Speaker 10 (43:10):
You know they're mad, but in how they fight, they're joyful, right.
Speaker 9 (43:13):
I mean, I myself am a Mom's for Liberty member.
We have to stand up for our kids. We you know,
as an organization, Moms for Liberty stands over one hundred
and thirty thousand parents strong. And you know, you can
see the joy and the happiness and the love that
all of these parents have for their kids. We were
just recently up in DC at the National Summit, an
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extremely successful event. President Trump came and spoke and Tiffany Justice,
one of the co founders, got to interview him on
National TV.
Speaker 10 (43:41):
It was, you know, it was invigorating.
Speaker 9 (43:43):
And these parents are again, they're joyful in how they
fight because they know that we have to win for
our kids. And our kids are watching, right, Tiffany says
that all the time they are watching how we fight
for them and how we fight for their rights and
to protect them.
Speaker 10 (43:58):
And so I don't see it slowing down out.
Speaker 9 (44:00):
I only see it picking up and it's a really
exciting thing to be part of.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, it is, keep going, Kim, appreciate you very much.
All right, we have light in the mood. Let's make
fun of Chuck Schumer next. All right, it's time to
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lighten the mood. Have you ever heard a theory. It's
a conspiracy theory that the people who rule the world
they're not actually people. I've heard different versions of the theory.
Maybe they're aliens who take the form of lizards on
the planet, or maybe they're actually lizard people. Have you
ever heard about the lizard people? Look, I obviously don't
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believe that they're lizards. They are human beings. But every
now and then I will tell you something happens and
it kind of gives me pause. Meaning, these people are
understand they have to pretend to be like us, They
have to pretend to share our concerns and share the
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lives we have, but they're so devoid of anything resembling humanity.
Maybe they are really lizards that they can't even do
that well. And I was actually snickering about something today.
That's all really, as we light the mood here, Remember
I think this was independence date, I remember, right, So
that would be July. Remember when Chuck Schumer, Senate majority leader,
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Remember when he posted a picture of.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Himself grilling out only.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
That picture, As you can see, those are raw burgers.
It's completely raw. They clearly were just throwing on the grill.
And then someone threw on a raw slice of American
cheese on the raw burgers.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
And it just gives me the giggles. It just does.
I don't know what's.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Funnier that somebody staffer is probably more than one person
set up that photo shoot, right, so they didn't understand
what it's like to even grill. They don't even relate
to you at all, so they.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Set up the photo shoot. That part of it's funny.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
And the other part of it that I think is
maybe even funnier is Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Didn't look down and say anything. It didn't even occur
to him.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
He looked down, he didn't The burger's raw, The cheese
isn't even melted.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
This doesn't look real. Wouldn't that occur to you? It
would occur to me, But I'm not a lizard person. Anyway,
it makes me laugh. I see them all