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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Sparta, ancient Sparta. How much do you know about ancient Sparta,
the ancient Greek city state of warriors. Well, I'll tell
you this. This is something you probably already know. Maybe
you watch the movie three hundred you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Found this out.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
But Spartan boys were taken away from their families and
they never returned home again. And they were taken away
from their families at the age of seven, seven years old.
The Spartans were obviously a militaristic society. They were interested
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in creating the finest, toughest warriors who ever lived. That
was every part of their society was geared towards that.
And after years and years and years of testing this
and testing that, and testing this and testing that, the
Spartans figured out, at least in their minds that at
seven we can start him. And it was brutal seven
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years old by mom, by dad, I'm going off to
warriors school, where I'll spend the rest of my life.
And the end result, of course, was Spartan's historically legendary warriors.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Do you think about the.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Assassinations and assassination attempts we've seen just in recent years
in the United States of America, talk about the scumbag
who assassinated Charlie Kirk. I think he still had pimples.
Talk about that goober who shot Trump in the head
and did kill somebody at that Trump rally in Butler,
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young man, Talk about the guy who murdered the United
Healthcare CEO on the streets of New York City. Young Man,
these aren't old, crazy people. These are young men with
their entire lives ahead of them, and those lives are
now over. In the case of Butler, actually is over.
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The others will probably spend the rest of their lives,
if not the significant portion of their lives in prison.
No wives, no kids, no grandkids, no te ball games,
no church on Sunday. Life over because of decisions they've made.
Now why did they make these decisions? Well, I want
to show you something. You obviously know who Rachel Maddow is.
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Rachel Mattow, of course, is that butch lesbian on TV.
She's had a big show for a very long time.
You know, she's got the crew cut and everything else,
Communists America hater and you know what she looks like, right,
Do you know what Rachel Maddow used to look like
before she went to college?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Look at that. Look at that. It really brings it up.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Four years it took to go from the picture on
the left to the picture on the right. Is that
humanly possible? Well, Communists in the United States of America
understand the exact same thing the Spartans understood so many
years ago. You've got to get the kids. You've got
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to grab them when they're children, get them as early
as you possibly can get away with, grab them, and
start training them early. And I want to stress this
especially to older Americans, not because you're dumb or something
like that. That's not the case at all. If you
are older and you went to school years and years
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and years and years ago, the education system today is nothing,
and I mean nothing like the one you went to
when you were a child. It is nothing like that
at all. And there's a reason for that. The Communists
decided they were going to infiltrate probably our most important institution,
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if we're being honest, certainly one of the most important
one's the education system. They infiltrated the education system with
committed communist warriors. These people they go into work as administrators,
as textbook authors, as principals, as school board members, as
teacher themselves, and they do not. They are not concerned
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at all with teaching Aiden Jaden and Braiden how to write,
how to form a sentence, how to do math, about science, chemistry.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
They're not interested in that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They'll do that only to the degree they are required
to do that. They consider themselves to be Communist recruiters,
recruiting and training the next generation of Communist foot soldiers.
These are your teachers now.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So I are in the pride club at my school
and I'm having kind of an issue with another teacher
in the school building right now. I have a couple
kids who have come to me and told me that
she has called them out in the middle of class
for being gay. She said some pretty terrible things about
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me and the club, uh, telling kids that she thinks
it's stupid and a waste of time, and you know,
we're pulling kids out of her class, which technically, yes,
you know we are pulling kids out of the class.
I have okayed this with my administration, with my principal,
my admin on that because the kids told me straight up,
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they were like, we don't want to have it after school,
just in case, because some of their parents don't know
it would make them feel more comfortable to just you know,
do it at school. That way, it's a little more
you know, discreet. So it is completely okay with my
admin that I'm running this club during school hours. And
again it's only thirty minutes a week.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's a child predator. She didn't take that job to teach.
She took that job to steal your children. And look,
I know it's weird to think because you don't think
like this now that do why the communists genuinely thinks
that your children belong to them.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
They say it all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
When your children walk into our classroom, they become ours.
The children are always our, every single one of them
all over the globe.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
And I am beginning that whoever is.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
In people and recognizing this me and people are.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
From a little village to all.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Them.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That's how they think.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
We have to acknowledge that that is the state of
our education system and we have to fight it because
we can't allow these people to steal our children. They
are devils out to steal, kill and destroy, and we
have to stop. We have an incredible show for you.
Alvin Louie's going to join us next. He has some
steps for you to take. Nick Friedis joins us. After that,
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You're about to feel better. You know, we all start
out as little babies. There's no exceptions to this. We
all start out as little babies, a little innocent. I mean,
I have two kids, and it's kind of crazy when
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you think about it, that we all start.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Out like that and then one day with the wrong
mixture of what I don't know. We'll talk to Alvin
about it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
In a moment, you can turn out to be a vicious,
violent little communist one day. Joining me now, Ivan Louis
President of Courage is a habit.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Alvin.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I'm amazed, not just at these assassination attempts. I've already
accepted that that's the way it is now. Isn't that terrible,
But just how many Democrats talk about death by I
wish you'd die.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'd love to kill them. I can't believe he's not dead.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
This is something that has become Democrat discourse in this country.
When democrats gather together, I've heard it a million times,
that's how they talk.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Just violent people.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Why hey, Jesse, good to be back, Thanks for having me.
You know, they're just a culture of death. They're a
a death cult. If you look at everything they believe in.
They either want to murder babies at nine months in
a day, if the baby's lucky enough to be born,
They want to emulate them, sterilize them, and then if
they get past that, they want to turn them into
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useless social justice activists so that they're angry and miserable
and anybody that has a difference of opinion is Nazi
and need to die. And I think you know in
the beginning here, you're like, how does that happen? Because
anybody who has kids or around children know just how
beautiful and perfect they are, how loving they are, And
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it's like, how do you go from that five or
six year old and then by the time they're fifteen sixteen,
they're screaming to protect your legal aliens? How does that work?
So that only works because we are sending them to
these indoctrination centers for seven hours a day, five days
a week, for thirteen years. This is kindergarten through twelfth grade.
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And I don't care how good of a parent you are,
Jesse or anybody else out there, you only have about
three to four hours with them a day for the
five days a week. And those three or four hours
are not quality hours. You're burnt out. They're burnt out.
You're just going through the rigor war of homework in
bath and going to sleep, so they get your children
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when they are fresh, the most fresh, and their brains
are absorbing everything. And in government K through twelve, the
purpose of government K through twelve is not reading, writing,
and math. The purpose of government K through twelve is
to turn them into exactly what you said at the
top of the segment. Here, the screaming angry social justice activists,
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anything left wing, It doesn't matter what it doesn't matter
what it is, because they can just pump it right
into them because they've got the time. And so when
in the earlier grades, it's always comes in as anti
bullying and be kind. That's why parents miss it. But
it's always we all encourage as a habit. We encourage
parents to ask the question through whose lens? Through the
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lens of you, Jesse, your grandmother, your mother sure awesome,
through the lens of a critical race theorist, through the
lens of a transgender cultist, through the lens of someone
who wants to flood this country with the illegal aliens.
Then all of a sudden, be kind and empathy takes
on a whole different meaning. And so when you see that,
you know we had covered about how the kids are
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marching to protect ice, and parents are like, what did
what teacher influenced them last month or a couple months ago.
There's no one teacher. If they're sixteen, they got it
at an elementary school or middle school at the very latest.
It starts very early.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Alvin, that be kind, compassion. It obviously works on a
lot of young people, but man alive, does it work
on young women?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We really don't fully.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Grasp how much communists target young women and how susceptible
they are to that.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I don't want to see deportations.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't I want to be kind.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I want to be seen as kind. They're wonderful motherly nature.
It's not stupidity. It's just a wonderful motherly nature that's
been perverted and twisted. Young women are prime targets for
this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
They really are. And we often say that we don't
have an oppression problem in this country, but we do
have an idiot empathy problem. This primarily affects females, but
if you want to get more specific, it affects pretty
well off insufferable, woke white women. You see that in
every case, whether it's protecting legal aliens, revolving door for
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black and brown criminals, transing kids. It's it's almost always
this particular group because their life is too easy. They
have a lot of white guilt. Most of that comes
from when you know the older ones. Of course, they
come from when they were in college. This is why
there was a huge college push for females, and they
just started weaponizing their empathy, weaponizing their kindness, and then
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and then that turned into shame. And so you know,
we often talk about white guilt right as you know,
you do it so well better than anybody else, but
we don't actually call it white guilt. We only try
not to. And here's the difference.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Why.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
When you feel guilty, it means you've done something wrong,
some action, something you said, something you did, and then
you try to apologize for it if it's you know,
if you truly made a mistake, and then you try
to move on. So guilt is about something you feel
bad about, something you did. Shame is about feeling bad
about who you are. They're not teaching your kids, your
white kids, and these white women guilt. It's shame. And
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this is a shame that has no redemption. This is
a shame that has uh. You can't rectify that there
is no salvation from this religion, and the only way
to do it is to continually just just be the
mouthpiece for whatever the legacy media tells you. It's whatever
left wing ideology is being fed to you, and then
that's your only hope or redemption. But you never get there.
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And so this is where this is where you're The
weaponizing of that kindness and empathy in schools is so dangerous,
and then it affects females because they truly do want
to try to help the less fortunate, not realizing that,
and some of them do realize it, but they do.
But whatever they support actually comes back and hurts them
the most. And that's the that's the most insane thing
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about this weaponization of empathy and this kind of this,
this this plague of this, these woke, these low iq
woke white women, because whatever they support actually hurts them
more than they hurt someone like you and me. Not
to say men don't get hurt when illegal aliens are
are open, you know, open borders. But the rape and
the stabbing and the mu and the beatings, it's always
old people and women, you know, men and women's sports.
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When women's bathroom. You and I not that it's right,
but you and I won't really care if a woman
pretends to be a guy comes into the men's bathroom.
Have you seen the men's bathroom? But it's always the
women that gets hurt. And unfortunately, there's a lot of women,
of course, that don't believe in this. There's other children
are innocent. But this voting block, for the last fifty years,
this radical feminist rooting block, has just been absolute poison
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to this country, and a lot of it, and most
of it started in academia.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I like that white shame. I like the way you
explained that, but I'm totally stealing that, and I'm gonna
give you no credit whatsoever. But I'm stealing that, and
I'm using that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I don't expect you to.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right, So how do we begin to fix the
education system? It seems like such an enormous problem. What
should we be doing now? If I'm watching right now,
what should I be doing? Do I have any kind
of a role to play? What can I do, small
or large to stop this indoctrination system we have.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I'm gonna go in order everybody can do something, and
in fact, we want everyone to do something. This isn't
a if I'm not If I don't want a platform
like Jesse Kelly, I can't do anything. So in order
of in order of small to large. If you have
children in government K through twelve, okay, if you cannot
pull them, and I'm gonna put that aside because I
know that that's very difficult. But if you can do
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everything you can to push to pull them, but I'm
gonna assume that you can't. This is where our tools
come in at. Courage is a habit dot org. So
for example, right now, if you go to Courage as
a habit dot org tool of the week is the
five teacher Union lies. We've created a toolkit and a
turnkey letter that you and we want fifty of your
fifty parents, one hundred parents, five hundred parents in the
school district to flood their schools with this letter, demanding
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and holding them accountable for why they're shutting down. Same
thing when they did the ICE. If you scroll down
our tools lists, Courage is a habit dot org click
on tools. We had the same thing for the anti ice.
It's about this micro flooding and what we call it
is call it sand in the gears. Yeah, you're not
going to change anything with one letter, but it's about
that breakdown, that systemic breakdown. And this is exactly what
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they did with the schools. They didn't get they didn't
get it this way overnight. So we want this is
something that and we make it so that every parent
can do it. It doesn't matter if you have no idea
what a school board is, it doesn't matter if you've
never been to a school board meeting. This is for
every parent. Then when you get to obviously the next
level of that is we want to start seeing parents
start to demand that their legislators stop the mental health grants.
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The mental health grants is what drives I would say
ninety percent of the indoctrination in schools because it's coming
through mental health, and the parents don't see that. Americans
don't see that because the mental health the school counselors
is that trojan horse that brings in all this critical
raise theory, queer theory, but they disguise it under supporting
all students. That's why you don't see it. And again,
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if you want to know more about that, just go
under Courage as a Habit Dot or click on collections
and click on behind closed doors. That is our exposures
of the of the counselors. So those are the kind
of the big things that every American can do. Now
back to what I said about pulling your kids. Look,
it is very common jesse for people to say you're
saving for college. The just rose off your tongue saving
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for college. You're leaving for college. It is ludicrous. That's
the biggest lide that we've sold a middle class Americans.
Why are you saving and going into debt when your
children are already almost baked. For God's sakes, if you're
going to go into debt, do it when they're young.
Do it when they're little, when they are moltible. Take
that risk, take that loan, Make that sacrifice when they're five,
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not when they're eighteen or seventeen, because you have time
to pay off that loan, but you get to decide
how they're molded. By the time to get to eighteen
and nineteen, all you're doing is turning them over into
the next level of indoctrination, and you're never going to
get them back to forget the mention of the ROI
these days of college. So that's our biggest thing. If
you really want to make a difference, starve these institutions.
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And every American can do that by pulling their kids,
and of course, for God's sakes, don't send them to college.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
What are the five lies teachers unions tell parents.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, let's go through them. The first lie is that
we are simply supporting all students. The walkouts are all
about children, but it's not. It's all of the walkouts
and the teachers' unions are all about driving teacher activists
to left wing Democrat candidates and to demand more critical
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race theory and more queer theory into schools. Is that
demand more sympathy for open borders, kicking in the children
of illegal aliens, and then everything comes down because you
have all these kids that don't even speak a lack
of English. So that's the first one. The second one
is that we're only striking for smaller classes and better
smaller classes and better pay. That's nothing to do with money.
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It's all about they're taking the dues and ninety five
percent of it goes towards left wing Democrat either candidates
or causes anyway, So it's nothing to do with class sizes.
The picket line is basically grassroots. Obviously not grassroots. They'll
tell you that we need more funding to ensure every
student has resources. Obviously, none of the money goes towards
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students or teachers. It goes towards more school counselors, more
NGLs to bring in more queer theory, more professional development.
And then the last one is that this is just
a labor dispute because we're putting kids first. It is
not putting kids first. It's all about whatever the left
wing agenda is. And this is not new. I know
that there's been a lot of talk with the recent
May First shut down in some states, but they've been
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doing this for well over a decade. This is what
the teachers' unions are. That's all they are. They are
a Marxist political outfit. And so the stunt is this.
This is a three step stunt, or the three step process.
They create the prices for parents, they create a crisis
for parents and Americans by shutting down to schools. They
blame the conservatives, and then they demand radical social change.
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That's the easy step there for their stunts.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Alvin, that is outstanding man. You come back soon, all right,
Thank you? It's pretty good. Nick Freediz is gonna join
us in a moment Green Beret to talk to him
about education, raising kids, maybe maybe pulling your kids out
of school, homeschooling them. Maybe it's something you've kicked around
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and talked yourself out of for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Talk to Nick about that as well. He knows little
something about it.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Next, high interest debt is just the most soul sucking
thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Are you carrying this twenty thirty debt?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It feels like you're drowning, and it feels like the
worst part of it is no matter what you do,
you can't get ahead. You've got to try to make
a minimum payment. It just it feels like you have
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those quotes from someone I love, but I hate the quote.
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Winston Churchill has this quote. You've probably heard it a
thousand times that if you're under thirty and not a liberal,
you have no heart, and if you're over thirty and
not a conservative, you have no brain. I don't like
it because it's always used as some sort of a
justification that, well, every eighteen year old is going to
be a filthy comedy and then hopefully they'll grow out
of it when they start paying tax shows one day.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I don't think that has to be the case.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I saw you go poll recently Americans aged eighteen and
twenty nine, sixty two percent of them viewed socialism as favorable.
Is that just inevitable because of their age? Joining me now,
the great Nick Fritis, author of The Man Book, I
would highly recommend this, especially if you have a young
man trying to forge his way in the world today.
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I think a Greenberry combat veteran probably knows a little
bit of something about these things, all right, Nick, I.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Don't accept that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Go well, if you're eighteen, you're just going to be MAO,
I've got two teenage boys. They're bloodthirsty anti communists.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Well, and it's amazing because most communist leaders that actually
study about pretty bloodthirsty themselves. So the idea that that's
the most more compassionate worldview just seems absurd to me.
But here's what I can almost promise you. If you
were to ask the sixty two percent of young people
who say that they have a favorable opinion of socialism
to describe what socialism is, none of them, none of
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them would say, oh, well, socialism is the abolition of
the private ownership of the means of production, where everything
is owned by the state. None of them would say that.
They would say things like, oh, I believe in social
security or education or health care for poor people. They
wouldn't describe what socialism is because they haven't been taught
what it is. They've just been taught about vibes and
feelings and maybe perhaps desirable in states, and then they
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just put the moniker socialism on top of that, and
that's what they actually like. And it's pathetic and it's
indoctrination not education.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Nick, I'm glad you brought up indoctrination.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Obviously, there are wonderful teachers out there, there's no question
about that.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I know any of them.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But I don't think people really truly get how many
look their child predators go into the teaching profession.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Maybe not in the.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sexual, gross way that that came across, but they are
there to go after your kids. That is why they
think they're there. They're not interested in teaching them reading, writing,
and arithmetic. They're trying to steal them from you.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Well, I think there's a couple important things to understand
here about the leftist worldview. And by leftist, I don't
mean your grandmother who voted democrat. I mean leftism when
you look at people like Antonio Graham Shey, who is
one of the intellectual godfathers of all this. He essentially
said that, yeah, you know, I like what Marx had
to say about the world, and I certainly want Marxist
in state, but it's not happening in the way Marx anticipated.
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Why is that. Well, the conclusion he came to is
it turns out capitalism is pretty good at actually delivering
the goods, and so he said that if we actually
want to achieve Marxist in States, then we need to
have a we need to have a Marxist culture. And
the only way you're going to do that is if
you actually can infiltrating control culturally shaping institutions. Now, when
you use the word infiltrating control, that sounds really bad,
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but from their worldview it isn't. It's necessary that this is.
They have to control education, they have to control Hollywood,
they have to control journalism. Why because these are the
mechanisms by which they're going to correct your thinking in
order to get in line with Marxist ideology or socialism
or whatever else it might be. And for anybody that thinks,
well that's ridiculous, Nick, Okay, Well I just got done
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doing a tabling event with Turning Point USA at University
of Washington, Seattle, and for two and a half hours
a group of students sat there and yelled and screamed
and beat drums and shouted obscenities. They did not want
to engage with arguments. They just wanted to yell and scream.
Why because that's what they've been taught to do. And
so I think it's important for people to understand that
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if you think higher education has kind of lost its path. Okay,
if you think higher education in general is very very
left wing, go to the education departments within a universe campus,
go to the place where all of your public school
teachers have to go to school in order to get
their teaching degree, to be able to get their credential,
and going to your public school, and then all of
a sudden, it makes perfect sense why sixty two percent
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of students living in the wealthiest country in the world
thinks that the poorest, most depraved, most total totalitarian systems
are the ones that they should adopt.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Nick has the right.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I mean, we can call it the GOP, but the right,
whatever way you want to put it. Have we been
too weak on this issue? Because you talk about these things,
and you're of course correct, and we have all these
education systems in the country, but we have red state
after red state after red state after red state in
the United States of America. We don't have forty blue
states in this country. We have the majority of these
states or red states. Why do I not see a
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GOP war against these things?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Are they scared? Are they complicit? What is it? Yes?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I think there's two things. One, you have an older
faction of the GOP when they were going to public school,
they said a prayer every day, and they said the
Pledge of Allegiance, and they got taught that the founders
were great guys, and they kind of assumed that that's
still what public school is. It isn't, and trying to
convince them otherwise is very difficult. The times, same thing
with a lot of parents that think, oh, no, Nick,
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you don't understand. I live in a really conservative district.
This doesn't happen in my district, Ladies and gentlemen. I
served on the Education committee in the Virginia House of Delegates.
I lived in a deep red conservative county. It was
in my county. It was in our public school libraries.
And I fought against it, and I told people about it,
and it was shocked at the cognitive dissonance of people
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that didn't want to even do basic research to learn
what was going on, because it was just easy to
believe that, well, of course, it's generally like when I
went to school. It isn't. It's very different. And now
we're having a generation. COVID started this. COVID started the
generation of conservative parents that finally got a glimpse of
what was going on inside the classroom and either pulled
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their kids out or became far more active within the
public school system. And all that's great, but the problem
that they need to understand is you don't fix this
problem with one election cycle. You don't fix this problem
by showing up to a couple of school board meetings.
You have to be much more deliberate. The good news
is is that you can't pull your kids out. You
don't have to subject them to this. But if you
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don't want it going in on and your government run schools,
that is going to be a multi decade battle. And
the reason I know this is because it took the
left decades to get it to this state and it's
going to take some time to fight for it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So what do you say to these parents? Is it
just that simple, Nick? You just got to pull them out?
You got to if you're a mom and maybe you're
working two jobs, prices are high right now, you got
to quit and homeschool the kids. And look, I'm not
saying that's a bad thing. I applaud it. I love
when people do that. But is that the solution.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Well, here's what I'm going to tell people. Because people
will say, well, Nick, you got to sacrifice a lot
to homeschool. That's true, you will also sacrifice to send
your kids to a government run school that will teach
them to dis your values and that you're ultimately the enemy.
So you're going to sacrifice one way or another. What
would you prefer to sacrifice? Now? For people to find
themselves in financial situations where there's no way they can
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pay the mortgage and homeschool, what I would say is
one our churches and our civic organizations in this country
need to do a much better job of actually providing
prayerents with alternatives to a school system that has become
hostile to their values. If you're a church and you're
really good at sending loads of money over to countries
all around the world, but you're not actually helping to
provide the parents within your church an alternative to a
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worldview and a school system which is indoctrinating their kids,
I'm going to argue that maybe you have your priorities
mixed up. If you're one of these really really wealthy
conservative donors that love to give millions of dollars to
your old university so they can put your name on
the side of a building and then staff it with
professors that will teach the students that you're an horrible, evil,
capitalist exploiter. Maybe your priorities are a little bit off
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with respect to where you donate your money. There is
no real we have the resources, have the time, we
have the skill sets. There is no reasons why we
cannot be creating more alternatives within primary education secondary education
that actually teaches kids that, hey, while this country is
not perfect, we're pretty dang good and we've got some
wonderful things within our history to look up to an
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aspire to. And while human beings can make really really
bad decisions, market systems where people are allowed to work
in voluntary cooperation with one another are far better at
alleviating poverty and suffering than centrally planned economies by politicians
and bureaucrats that always require and varying degrees of totalitarianism
to achieve their in states, there's no reason why we
can't do this. It's just that again, well, I already
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pay my taxes. Okay, Well I got bad news. A
lot of the left wing organizations out there, a lot
of left wing bureaucrats, teachers, administrators, unions, etc. Have taken
over those institutions. You can either try to fight from
within to take them back, or you can create alternatives.
But I'm tired of hearing. Well, Nikot's too much of
a sacrifice. You will sacrifice either way. Choose your sacrifice, Nick.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I had breakfast with my pastors some time back, and
a wonderful pastor, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
We love the guy.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And during the course of this breakfast he found out
what I did, and so the politics came up. Now,
this is an older I would consider very wise man
when it came to the issues of politics. He might
be the dumbest person I've ever met in my entire life.
He had no idea about anything going on in the world.
My job was just hanging open listening. It was like
I was speaking to a child. How is it possible
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that pastors are this have washed their hands this much
of politics in this country.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I think a lot of it has to do with
our formal seminaries. I think there's been a lot of
left wing infiltration of our seminaries, which probably explains why,
especially within the Protestant faith, you have a major schism
in every single major denomination. You have elements of the
Lutheran Church, the Episcopalian Church, the Methodist Church, all in
open heretic rebellion to the Bible. And I think a
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lot of it takes place within our formal educational institutions
where they've taught they've taught pastors that if you're a
conservative one, well then your job is just focus on
your flock and the Great Commission, right, you shouldn't have
any sort of awareness about what's going on in the
wider political world, because after all, we're talking about the
next world, not this one. And it's a lie. It's
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not that we shouldn't be focused on the Great Commission.
It's that God calls us to be salt and light everywhere.
When you say the Lord's prayer, you know thy will
be done on earth as it is in heaven. That
means that we should want to create this sort of
environment here on earth where God's will is carried out.
It is done by our civil servants, by our individuals,
by our parishioners, whatever it might be. And so I
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think it's important that people recognize something. I'm not asking
any pastor to be partisan. I don't think God is
republican or Democrat. But I don't think God's neutral on
the issues either, because I've read scripture and he has
some things to say about what I'm major political party
in this country is pushing. Whether it's killing babies in
the womb, throw all nine months worth of pregnancy, whether
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it's generally mutilating gender confused miners, whether it's pushing lawlessness
and degeneracy. These are the sort of things that pastors
need to wake up and speak toward, not because they're
trying to achieve some sort of specific political in state
on behalf of a political party, but because they honestly
want they will be done on earth as it is
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in heaven.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Nick switching gears here to a subject that most people
don't know anything about, and honestly, from my experience, I've
seen what I consider to be good, well meaning teachers
fall victim to this. The textbooks themselves, the people who
write the textbooks, the teachers oftentimes, I mean teachers aren't
always experts on every subject.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
They teach what's in.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
The freaking textbook. That's what's in the curriculum they're given
the textbook. The dirty communists are writing the textbooks in
this country, even for Christian schools out there.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Oh yeah, absolutely well, And again part of the problem,
part of the trap we've fallen into, is well, I
pay my taxes, and that's supposed to, excuse me, take
care of education, and that's supposed to take care of
all this stuff. I'm not supposed to have to worry
about it anymore. Well, the bottom line is you need
to really is that you can delegate authority to educate
your children. You can't delegate responsibility for it. And I've
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talked to parents, spoken to parents before. We're like, Nick,
we have wonderful teachers. I'm like, great, And none of
those wonderful teachers wrote the textbook. None of those wonderful
teachers passed or voted on the laws which governed what
they have to teach within their schools. They could be wonderful,
they could be doing their best job against a horribly
corrupt system, but it's still a horribly corrupt system. So
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the question is is what are you going to do
to change that. You can fight internally, you can find
internally against an organization and an infrastructure that has all
the advantages, or you can find alternatives. And here's the
thing that I love. If you would have asked me
why did we start homeschooling. Initially it was at a necessity.
Then we started homeschooling because we put our kids back
into public school and deep read conservative district, and in
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one year we pulled them out because of everything that
was going on within the schools and it hadn't even
gotten as bad as it is now back then. But
if you ask us finally, why did we homeschool, it's
because we absolutely loved it. The amount of time that
we recaptured with our kids, The ability to see your
child struggling on an issue, and instead of having to
fight through a curriculum or a textbook that they don't understand,
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being able to immediately shift it to one that they do,
and then watch them blossom and actually love learning because
it's not about rote memorization. It's about the transference of
knowledge and wisdom which they can find everywhere. That that
is what has made us such huge believers in this
process about once again taking control of the things you can.
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There are so many things within the political world that
you have very little say over. Maybe you get to
vote once every two or four years, but that's it.
There are so many other things within the realm of
your life and your children's education, which you can take
ownership over. And I would just encourage people because there
are more resources now than ever existed before. Go check
out one of the conventions at Great Homeschool conventions. Go
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go find that network of people that not only want
you to succeed, but will help you succeed, because there
is nothing, there is nothing that compares with raising three
children all throughout high school, having all of them graduate,
having them love the Lord, love their country, despise communism,
and being productive, well adjusted members of society. That is
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a great feeling. We helped. We took little humans that
we got to make, and we turned them into adults
we want to be friends with. I mean, that's a victory.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It is truly one of the biggest blessings. My wife
and I talk about it all the time. We want
to hang out with our teenagers and they want to
hang out with us. Just wonderful human beings. I just
don't have any idea how that happened. All right, Switching
gears the university system. Obviously, I'm big on the trades
and not going to the university system. We can get
to that in a few but we also can't long
term sustain a nation if our higher education system is
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a communist finishing school.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
It seems like such an.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Insurmountable problem, but we have to mount it for much
lack of a better way to put that, how do
we solve this problem?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Well, So, I used to be the sub committee chairman
for higher education in Virginia, and one of the biggest
things I found was the collusion between higher education and
government to essentially set higher education up for success at
the expense of their students. And I sincerely mean that
it was very frustrating to watch higher education officials explain
to me why what they did was so critical and
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so important that I need to steal more money from
my constituents in order to give it to them so
they could set up new gender studies programs. So, once again,
the question I'm going to ask you is you have
some institutions out there that are fighting the good fight.
I love Liberty, I love Regent, I love Hillsdale, I
love Grove City College. There's others out there that are
great too. There's a lot of other ones that used
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to be great who aren't anymore. There's a lot of
universities that say they're Christian and they're not. So you
can do one of two things. You can pick a
good institution, you can fight for one that has been
co opted, or you can set up alternatives. And like
you said before, this idea that a college degree is
an absolute necessity is false. In fact, the only areas
for which it is an absolute necessity are areas where
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the academy has colluded with the government to give themselves
not only special privileges with respect to subsidies, but also
legal categories where you have to have a college degree
in order to practice something. Why why can't you get
your higher education in a different format or in a
different way to be more applicable. Why do you have
to go through all these additional classes that have nothing
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to do with your major, nothing to do with your ambitions,
and are set up almost exclusively for indoctrinating purposes. We
can set up alternatives to this, and I will tell
people right now. Look, if your dream is to go
to college and it's necessary for your career field, fine,
be wise about the university you pick, because what a
college degree is is a credential, and a credential might
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open a door, but it doesn't keep you employed forever,
because sooner or later, you know what your employer wants
to see. You have capabilities, that you have work ethic,
that you know what you're doing. And I've gotten to
a point in my own business now where when I
see a college degree, automatically, the first thing that comes
to my mind is not oh wow, this guy is intelligent,
or oh wow, this person really went through something difficult
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and achieve something significant and notable, or this person has
a bunch of capabilities. Now the first thing that goes
through my mind is, am I about to hire an
activist that thinks their job is to not do the
job I've hired them for, but to try to use
my company as a mechanism to achieve whatever social change
they've been taught to desire. And so a lot of
times for me, when I see a college degree, if
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it doesn't come from one of those universities that I mentioned,
I'm automatically skeptical of what I'm getting because that degree
no longer conveys capability. A lot of time, it conveys
a headache. And so be careful about what you choose.
And like you said, we look at what AI is
doing right now and there's so much concern about the
jobs that AI is going to eliminate. I'm going to
tell you right now, AI is far more likely to
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eliminate jobs for finance and Wall Street than it is
for your plumber, you're electrician, your carpenter. Right. We haven't
taught the robots how to do that just yet, but
they can data mine financial data very very quickly and
come to pretty good conclusions about what's going to happen
in the future. So I would just say, think wisely
about what the economy is going to look like going forward,
and make the decisions they're going to set you up
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for marketable success. Don't go chasing after something that everyone
tells you you need simply because they went out and
got it. Actually look at the results in the field.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
What's it mean to be a dangerous dad?
Speaker 5 (41:34):
To be a dangerous dad is have the to have
the capacity and the capability of violence for violence on
behalf of the people you love, but never toward the
people you love. So my goal was that when my
daughters or my son said my dad could beat up
your dad, that there was a reasonable possibility that that
was true. Not because I would do it, but because
I wanted my kids to always be safe and secure
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that I was the sort of father that could come
in and not only protect them spiritually or emotionally or intellectually,
but that I could also protect them physically. One of
the things that I tell young men is you need
to have a violent hobby right It could be shooting,
it could be haunting, it could be boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu,
whatever it is. Develop those kind of skill sets because
it's important for your own confidence. But it's also important
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because one day, God forbid, your wife or your children
should ever need you. You want to be the man
that they can call in order to protect them.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Nick tell me about the Man Book.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
So the Man Book is a bit of a passion project.
I'm forty six years old. I've been married twenty seven years.
I've been a father for twenty three years. I was
a green Bery combat veteran. I served in public office
as a state legislator. I've owned a couple of businesses.
And basically what this book was is me sharing the
things that I learned a lot of times the hard way,
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because I think a lot of young men right now
are asking some very important and very relevant questions about
what does it mean to be a good man? What
does it mean to be a man in general? And
the thing that I try to tell him is, well,
whenever somebody looks at you and says be a man,
what they almost inevitably mean is that you're the sort
of person that should be able to keep your word
and get the job done, regardless of discomfort, regardless of pain,
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and regardless of danger or fear. And if you want
to be that sort of man, that's something you choose
to be. Now, I would argue that it's something God
calls us to be. I don't advocate for any form
of masculinity. I advocate for biblical masculinity, the sort of
man that is not just strong and successful, but the
sort of man that is honorable and trustworthy. And so
these were various lessons I learned, and some of them
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are very serious. Some of them go into things like
how to defend your faith, how do you know what's
worth dying for? And some things are a little bit
more we was just a little bit more fun, like
how to properly cook a steak, or how to kick
in a door, or what sort of self defense weapons
should you own for your home? So I go into
all of those various things. And again, it's not preachy.
It's more about just talking about things I've learned and
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if I was going to do it all over again,
these are the things I would want someone to give
me some insight on.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
People don't know how easy it is to hurt yourself
trying to kick in a door if you do it
like you see in the movies. I try to tell
people this, but nobody wants to know.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. We have final thoughts next.
And here's the thing. I'm a big I'm a big
person on tone setting. Setting the tone. When you wake
up in the morning, does it or does it not
set the tone for your day. When you wake up
and you know you had a bad night's sleep, you
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know right away you've already got it in your head.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Today's gonna suck. Work's gonna suck.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
It's gonna suck, and we'd be tired and be sucking
on coffee all day, and vice versa. When you have
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bed and you know, today's gonna be good. Whatever comes
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can win this fight, and it will not be fast
and it will not be easy. And we're already taking
the necessary step one to win the fight. We're waking up.
That's step one. You can't do anything till you wake up,
and you're wear the problem. We're getting to be more
aware of the problem. We're getting involved. It's just going
to be a long slog and we have to fight it.
Our kids are at stake. We'll do it again.