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January 24, 2025 42 mins

A concerted effort mounts within the walls of government to resist President Trump's orders. Jesse Kelly is all over it. Joining Jesse is Congressman Jim Jordan, who has details of a new committee that has Democrats in panic mode. You'll also hear from Susan Crabtree regarding President Trump's new Secret Service pick. Plus, an update on all things going on with mass deportations from Brianna Lyman and Alexis Wilkins.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Speed kills and the lack of it is killing us.
We'll talk about that tonight as it pertains the DOJATF
and other things. Jim Jordan joins us, what's going on
with the Secret Service, some border talk, all that and
more coming up, And I'm writing.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Speed kills, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Let's just talk about this because this is going to
come back to Pam Bondy, the DOJ, Pete, Hank Saith,
that's going to come back to all of them. But speed,
violence of action kills. It's amazing. If you have any
fascination with a history, battle history, war history, how consistent
that is with the greatest generals of all time.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Genghis Khan.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
He would be here one day and he would know
that he had to move, and move quickly before you
could get ready, and boom he was someplace you weren't ready.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
For him, and boom he got. Julius Caesar was famous
for it.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
He would always be a place earlier than he was
supposed to be, wrong footing you. Speed, violence of action, Alexander,
the great, all of them, they all knew speed. Speed
can wrong foot the enemy, and the lack.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thereof can get you killed. That's really what it comes
down to.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
If I'm Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan Alexander the Great, and
I have a city I want to take an army
I want to defeat. Time is their.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Friend and not mine.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Because every minute I wait, every day eye delay from
getting there. Those trenches they're digging are getting deeper, the
booby traps are getting more elaborate, the fortifications are getting thicker.
Every single day I delay, they get stronger and we
get weaker. What we have now in the United States

(01:56):
of America is an evil, corrupt, criminal enterprise known as
the United States Government. Donald Trump was elected president and
the promise that he would clean out that corruption, and
to his credit, he appears to be intentional about doing so.
His nominations, which obviously there's been some stinkers in there,
but his cabinet picks have been dynamite A plus so

(02:20):
far dynamite cabinet picks. And the reason they're dynamite is
not because they're qualified, it's because they all appear to
be reformers. He's got our FK coming in to deal
with the AHHS stuff, but our FK wants to go
reform everything at the AHHS that's wonderful. Pete Hegseth wants

(02:41):
to be sect deaf. Donald Trump wants to be sect deaf.
But Pete Hegseth isn't going in there to try to
do things, to work things they've always been done. He
wants to reform things. We have reformers coming in. There
is change coming and that brings me to the speed
or lack thereof today. Just make sure I get this right, yep,

(03:01):
January twenty third. Why isn't Pam Bondy at the DOJ yet?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's one example. I'll go to more.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
But Donald Trump was sworn in on Monday, four days ago.
Why wasn't Pam Bondy confirmed thirty seconds after Donald Trump
was sworn in? And let me explain why.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
This is a huge, huge deal.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
There are things we know and this is just about
the DJ. This will apply to everything we talk about here.
We know that a shredder truck has appeared in front
of the DOJ. We know, beyond a shadow of a doubt,
for decades, including under Trump, the DOJ has been populated
by communist activists who believe in using the rule of

(03:49):
law against Republicans and Republicans alone. We know those people
are in the building still, What do you think they're
doing as you look at you know what today was Thursday?
As you watch me here on I'm right, unless you're
delayed watching it on Friday. But you get what I'm
saying as you watch me here. What do you think
those communists spent the day doing at the DOJ while

(04:14):
they wait for the reformer, allegedly Pam Bondi to come in.
Do you think they sat there just twiddle in their thumbs.
Do you think these communists went into the DOJ today
and they decided they were going to finally tackle crime. Hey,
let's set aside all that lawfair stuff, let's find some murderers.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Let's go after them guys.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Or do you think these activist communists at the DOJ
spend every single minute at the office today figuring out
ways to make Pam Bondy the Trump administration stumble and fall.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
They did.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
We have report at the report after report that this
is taking place all over the government. I have talked
to former FBI special agents, Steve.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Friend being one of them, telling.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Me inside the walls of the FBI every single day
as they wait in anticipation of cash. Betel coming every
single day. They are fortified. They are getting people promoted
into management levels. They're making sure they send the communists
that they spread them out all throughout the building and
change their titles. We already know what's happening at the
ATF Their diversity guy, why no, he's an HR now

(05:23):
or something like that. I found out courtesy of Robbie's Starbuck. Well,
remember when Robbie said.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
This, These agencies are attempting to conceal DEI already. I
put up the documents from an NSA whistleblower last night
on my ex page where it very clearly shows that
the NSA was planning to conceal their DEI program under
a new name. I got that up. Elon Musk responded
to it. They are going to be on this. They're
going to stop it, but we're going to need to

(05:50):
go agency by agency investigating them to ensure that every
piece of these programs is obliterated.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's not just the f n S A, FBI. God
only knows what they're doing at c I A d O. J.
James O'Keefe when under undercover, they're already making plans at
the AJHS. So this.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
People joke about the deep state, but like to some
degree it's real because they have ways making slow things
down or blocking about you realizing it.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Meet Byron Cohen, an advisor at the White House.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Rkj is are very bad, crazy. There's a good chance
that the bureaucracy just crushes out.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Is there anything that you're going to do I would.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Consider like slowing things stone? I can't really think of
anyone who I would less rather have the president.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Can you give me an example, like how you think
they'll do it when RFK gets in.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
One thing you might be able to do to like
sort of make him think like something is happening when.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
It's not every day. So this brings me to my
point here.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Why are we waiting?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And this is where people will start.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, Democrats are being obstruction it's they're obstructing, okay, But
we have a majority and a fairly comfortable majority in
the United States Senate. Where is the GOP? Why are
we waiting? Why do we not have speed and violence
of action? January twentieth, on Monday, Donald Trump should have

(07:27):
been sworn in and it should have been confirmation vote
after confirmation vote after confirmation vote after confirmation vote. Instead,
every single day. Here we are January twenty third. We
have another hearing today. Maybe votes will be next week sometime. Well,
I'm not really sure. Let's get some more when we
just dr have to gather the facts day after day
after day after day, the communist is building up his

(07:48):
fortifications within the walls of the federal government, and the
low TGP is allowing it to happen and is driving
me freaking crazy. Has the most positioned, the most important
position in this government, besides Donald Trump himself, the DOJ,

(08:09):
the Attorney General, the DOJ central command for communist law
fair in this country. And here we are days we
are waiting, And while we wait, they are deleting emails,
they are shredding papers, They are covering their tracks, changing

(08:30):
job titles, moving people around to and fro. While we
sit here and twiddle our thumbs. The communist menace is anchoring,
anchoring himself inside the federal government and I cannot stand it.
And you know what drives me nuts is I don't
see many people talking about this, but I mean GOP officials.

(08:53):
I know you're upset about it. I'm upset about it.
But where's the GOP? What are they doing doing? But
We all of course know exactly what they're doing. They're
doing what they always do. They're allowing the communists as
much rope as they possibly can give them. That's how
much they're giving them. Well we'll wait another couple.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Of Well, we wouldn't want to violate norms. Oh, I
know they're just being crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
But Pam Bondy next week, I don't know. I've got
golf on Thursday. That's what we get all the time
from the GOP and it drives me freaking nuts. All
that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Jim Jordan doesn't drive me nuts. One of the good
people there. Let's talk to Jim Jordan next about all
the garbage going on. Is anyone actually going to go

(09:40):
to prison?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I don't know. Before we talk to Gim.

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Speaker 2 (10:14):
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Speaker 1 (10:17):
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Speaker 7 (10:21):
Back all right.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, there's obviously a lot of incredibly important news to
cover and updates we need. We have the southern border
getting more secure by the moment, Lord willing, some sanity
coming back to the government, the Middle East chaos, So
we need to focus on the important things first with
the big cheese on the Judiciary Committee, Congressman Jim Jordan
from Ohio. And that most important thing is our Ohio

(10:55):
state Buck guys being champions. How's that Michigan loss looking now?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
People?

Speaker 7 (11:01):
Yeah, go box what a what a uh well, I mean,
what what what a week it's been for Ohioans. We
got two new senators, we got JD. Van sworn and
as vice president. Of course, President Trump's in the in
the in the White House. We can all we can all,
you know, be glad about that. And then of course
the Buck guys win. So, uh, Monday was a was
a good day.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Congressman, tell us about this new senator from Ohio. People
not from Ohio are not familiar with this human being.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I like JD.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Vance, I like how JD. Vance voted. Is this that
kind of guy?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (11:31):
He John you says our lieutenant governor. He's gonna be
He's gonna be great.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
And then of course Bernie Marino has been he's now
our senior senator from Ohio and he's been in office
what with the twenty days.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
So we got two new senators, both good, good, good members.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I think it will be great, great great senators.

Speaker 8 (11:49):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
And sort of in that particularly, I think JD's is
much like excuse me, Bernie is much like JD. A
business guy, successful guy. So I think they're both gonna
be fine. Why didn't you go to the Senate? A
lot of people love being in the House.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Is it because you're such a big shot in the House.
It'd be nice to not have to run for office
every two years?

Speaker 7 (12:08):
Yeah, but when you look, you have to give up
being chairman. I was, you know, the top Democrat, assuming
the top Republican and the ranking member when the Democrats
were in charge of of the Congress and on the
on the committee. Then became chairman. So you have to
give that up if your run is one of our rules.
And I just I like the House, I like the
fourth District, great people, and the work we get to

(12:29):
do over here in the House, particularly as chair.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
In the committee.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Plus the Senate generally sucks anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
All right, so let's focus on things like this January
sixth investigation you have going What are you looking into?
What are you what's going on?

Speaker 7 (12:44):
Well, I think the key for me is twenty six
confidential human sources were there that day. We got this
report from the Inspector General after the election.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
There was no reason, first of all, to think that.

Speaker 7 (12:53):
They couldn't have given us to that, givenness that information
before the election. Twenty six confidential human sources, seventeen inter
rest space. They weren't authorized to do that. Four came
in the capital. Two of the four who came in
the Capitol were actually asked to be here by the
FBI that day. I think there's all kinds of unanswered questions,
like how many of these people had been paid, how

(13:14):
many were paid for that day, how long had they
been working for the FBI's confidential human sources, How did
they come into Capitol? They walked through the door, Did
they go through the windows? Were they some of the
first to go in the capitol? I mean, I want
to know what's going on here. And then we still
got to we don't know who planted the pipe bombs
on that day. Sometimes I jokingly say, you know, while
the FBI was going after moms and dads in school

(13:36):
board meetings, while the FBI was writing a memorandum in Richmond,
field Off is saying if you're a pro life Catholic,
you're an extremist. While they're doing all that, they couldn't
tell us who planted the pipe bombs, who leaked the
Dobbs decision, and who put cocaine at the White House.
So but when it comes to January sixth, I think
these twenty six confidential human sources is something that the
American people deserve answers to what were they really doing,

(13:57):
what were they up to, how long have they been there?
All those kind of thing. So that's kind of where
I think we'll start the focus of that subcommittee's work.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You and I have talked many times about this, and
getting these answers from the FBI has been very difficult.
They pull the stonewalling thing. Well, I can comment on
on going investigation. That's their their ultimate answer. My question is,
do you think that loosens up a bit now that
we have new management coming into the FBI.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
We just want to know what's going on. People.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Look, rumors are going to run wild when you keep
stonewalling the American people.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah. No, I think you're exactly right.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Hambody running the Justice Department, Todd Blanche's Deputy Attorney General,
Cash Betel running the FBI. I think when we ask
them for information, we will get that information, whether it's documents,
whether it's people involved in some of the things we've
been investigating. So yes, I think that is it's so
much nicer when it's your party in charge and you've
got good people who understand that they're supposed to serve

(14:57):
the American people when they run these agencies and and
just ask them for the information and get that information.
So yes, we anticipate that happening. As soon as Pam
Bondi gets confirmed, Todd Blanch and Cash Mattel, we'll be
asking for.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
The information we need on all these issues.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
The school board issue, the attack on pro life Catholics
trying they were trying to put confidential human sources in
the parish in the church. By the way, they're in
the Richmond area. That's how ridiculous it was. Information we
want to know about January sixth.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Information.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
We still want to know about the censorship effort from
the Biden administration that we think we've been so effective
in stopping. So all those things will get it from
people who understand the role they're supposed to play serving
the American people when they run these agencies.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Congress, So what about the January sixth committee people? I
realize there's a pardon there and what I don't think
Liz Cheney's going to jail. I'm not saying that, But
can we get answers out of these people?

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Now?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It would be nice to know exactly what nefarious deeds
took place inside that committee.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, all that's on the table.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
I want to start with the information that we can get,
and then you, once you get that information, you make
a determination. Does it make sense to do a deposition
of some people? But I think you first get the
information and find out all what happened. Now, one of
the things we know, it looks like transcripts of depositions
they took weren't preserved that's a concern.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Why weren't they preserved?

Speaker 7 (16:27):
So but yeah, I think you first start with what
we were just talking about before getting this information from
the Justice Department about what went on. Then I also
want to look at it from the Fannie Willis Nathan
Wade angle. We know Nathan Wade came to DC. He
built for hours where it looks like he was meeting
with folks on the January sixth Committee, meeting with folks

(16:48):
in the Justice Department, and potentially meeting with folks in
the White House. We want to look at that information
as well. So all that is part of our ongoing
work and this look back that we think is necessary
to get answers.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
For the people of this country.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
The destruction of transcripts and tapes and things like that.
Obviously it looks awful. It is awful. All that's awful.
We all get that. But is it criminal? You know,
that's the thing, because it should be criminal. You can't
just destroy that. That's the American people's of it, and
so it doesn't belong to you.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
But is it a crime, Yeah, it's it's I think
there's a real question.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Whether it is.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
We'll we'll look at that some of this was given
to the White House. What happened then something Maybe some
of these interviews.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Were more casual.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
There's no court reporter there, which doesn't make sense to me.
We did, I think this past Congress one hundred and
fifty seven different either depositions or transcribed interviews, and every
one of those from our committee work. We have a
court reporter there, you know, doing taking these down, recording
and getting a transcript.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
So I don't get that.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
It's something I think we need to examine, and it's
why the Speaker has designated a subcommittee that represented Louermel
or be Sharing to focus in on some of these issues.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Di is getting the acts all over the government. By
the grace of God, that miserable COMMI filth is getting
run out of the government.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
But they're not leaving.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
We all have word from the NSA atf FBI.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I mean, God only knows.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm sure it's every branch where they're just kind of
spreading those little cancers throughout the government trying to hide.
Does the judiciary have any kind of a role in
looking at that and making sure these people, the bad people,
don't get to just burrow themselves into the government further.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Yeah, I think the agency that the people President Trump
is nominated to head these agencies will look at that
and say, if there's games being played, No, that's not
how it works. We got the executive order from the president,
you know, ABC later you got to go here.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
One of these DEI people.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
And then as far as Congress goes an oversight function,
that would largely happen in the Oversight Committee. This is
about government broad down to the extent is going on
in the Justice Department. We could look at that, but
I have total confidence in Pambondy, Todd, Blanche and cash
Tell once they get confirmed, to get in there and
make sure that this is not going on in the

(19:09):
Justice Department.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Thank goodness, Congressman, as always, go bucks, appreciate you. All right,
let's dig into the border a bit. What can we
anticipate now, what's going on now? The Marines are on
the way. Before we get to that, let's talk about
your phone. I know it can be hard to put

(19:33):
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(19:55):
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Speaker 2 (20:02):
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Speaker 2 (20:16):
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Speaker 1 (20:19):
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Speaker 2 (20:32):
I'm not going back to Haiti.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I says he's a gang member with seventeen criminal convictions
in recent years. You feel mean, no bighten aver Bro.
Thank Obama for everything that he's pick for me. Sorry,
I just think that whole thing is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
How much does that suck?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
You have to go from there back to Haiti? Sucks
to be you joining me now. Alexis Wilkins, Press secretary
for the great Congressman Abe Hammaday and of course Brionna Lyman,
elections correspondent for the Federalist Alexis. He most definitely is
going back to Haiti. And that also means the scumbags
and the Biden administration knew exactly where that savage was

(21:16):
for the entirety of his presidency, and they just really
let him just go do his thing.

Speaker 9 (21:23):
Yes, he is going home with a one way ticket
thanks to the Trump administration finally coming in here and
ensuring that law and order is actually something that's pursued
in the United States. I mean, really, we're just getting
back to law and order. The Biden administration knew where
this guy was, they knew that he was likely dangerous.
I mean the things that we're finding on illegal immigrants

(21:43):
that have crossed the border. We're finding un gift cards,
we're finding cell phones. I think one guy had five
hundred dollars worth of gift cards and five cell phones.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
They know where these people are.

Speaker 9 (21:54):
They are allowing them to hurt American citizens, and I'm
so happy to see a stop to this, especially with
a my comical clip as this one.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I think it's funny they found them by the way,
because even illegals don't spend gift cards.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
None of us do, all right, Brianna.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
The Lake and Riley Act very popular in Republican circles,
not so popular with aoc.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Here she was in this bill.

Speaker 10 (22:18):
If a person is so much as accused of a crime,
if someone wants to point a finger and accuse someone
of shoplifting, they will be rounded up and put into
a private detention camp and signed and sent out for
deportation without a day in court.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yes, why is that a problem for anybody?

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean, I'm all on board for that. You know, first,
when we talk about the Lake and Riley Act in general,
this is a great step in the right direction, but
we have to remember that there is still no accountability
right now for Alejandra Mayorcis and Joe Biden. They may
not be in office anymore, but Alejandra Mayorcus was tasked
with securing the homeland and making sure a bird we're secure.
Him and Joe Biden took deliberate steps that did the

(23:03):
opposite and led to a scenario in which jose Abarrow
was able he was essentially flourishing to murder someone. There
needs to be accountability for that, and I hope Republicans
don't let that fall to the wayside simply because they're
out of office. As for AOC, I think she speaks.
What she's saying kind of goes to a larger point.
For some reason, the left and Democrats do not see

(23:24):
a difference between an American citizen and someone who's on
American soil. And that is inherently detrimental to the future
of this country because if you can't understand that there
is inherent value in being American and protecting Americans and
American culture, you cannot create a nation that sustains itself
for the future. And AOC is not the only person
who thinks like this. There are millions of her out there, unfortunately,

(23:46):
and are Unfortunately not all of them are in Congress.
But that's a real threat.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, it is an extreme threat. And actually, you've been
hot lately on the census. I wonder how many American
citizens know that these illegals are counted in the census.
When I tell my normal friends that, they're just stunned
or they think I'm lying. They think I'm some kind
of right wing propagandist. But you've been talking about that
a lot.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Yeah, you know, Donald Trump tried to get illegal immigrants
out of the census, and Joe Biden actually did the
opposite and make sure that they were going to be counted.
And what people I think failed to realize is that
the census accounts for things like electoral college votes and
congressional apportionment. And the idea that an illegal immigrant isn't
allowed to vote, which is true, right because they're not citizens,
but that they somehow deserve the power to dilute the

(24:32):
weight of an American voter by artificially inflating certain areas
or districts upping that population, which then gives those areas
more congressional representation and dilutes the power of let's say,
a smaller area that's comprised of one hundred percent American
citizens who can vote. Is preposterous.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, that's insane, Alexis. We've seen publication after publication now
try to scream about this whole birthright citizen ship's thing
that Donald Trump is trying to correctly do away with.
And it's crazy to me how many different entities and
people legal and otherwise in this country just really feel

(25:11):
entitled to having citizenship in the greatest country on Earth.
They feel like it should just belong to everyone.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
It's ridiculous to see that people can jump from breaking
the law to actually becoming legal citizens in this country
through illegal ways.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
The thing about it.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
Is that just because you were born here, people found
a lot of ways around this. And I know that
people want to reference the fourteenth Amendment, and I understand
that this will probably have its bound in courts. But
people have abused this practice, and the Biden administration has
not enforced any legal immigration, They have not encouraged it.
In fact, they have done exactly the opposite by giving

(25:50):
illegal immigrants more rights and things to use in cash
and phones, as I mentioned before, than legal citizens. So
why wouldn't they abuse use this loophole that they've found.
And I think shutting it down and starting over and
figuring out how to do this the right way is
the right thing to do, honestly, because if they came
here illegally, they've already broken the first principle they came here,

(26:11):
I legally shut it down.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
One thing I've found encouraging Brionna lately. Maybe it's just
in my head, but it doesn't appear that the media
hoaxes that they used to be able to create out
of just thin air. It doesn't appear they're landing anymore.
They tried one with Pete Hegseth. Well, they've been trying
one every thirty five seconds with Pete Hegseth talking to
his ex wife's dogs, uncle's mother that Pete had a

(26:35):
beer one time, and it just doesn't seem to be landing.
Are you getting that impression?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
It doesn't feel like it's landing.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
To me, it's not.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
You know what the mainstream propaganda press on the left
has not realized for some reason, is that they haven't
learned their lesson. The American people repudiated the mainstream narratives
that we were told for the past eight years. Right
after seeing hoax after hoax, lie after life, people have
tuned out. Is record high distrust in the left wing
corporate press because of their own actions. And you would

(27:05):
think that after this election, where they ignored every single
hope that they tried to throw out against Donald Trump Republicans,
they would have learned their lesson that character assassination is
no longer a convincing argument for the American people. They're
doubling down on it, and so I think You won't see, however,
the same reaction from the public toward these reports because
they're so unsubstantiated and they are so much They're simply

(27:27):
created to create fodder for Democrats. It's their only purpose,
because these aren't journalists, they're propagandist.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Alexis, I'll be honest, I had no idea you were
a press secretary. Now, what's it like being a press secretary?
Is that weird? Does it feel awesome or a little
bit gross?

Speaker 9 (27:44):
It's you know, it's exciting to be part of an
office that is trying to write the ship and promote
an agenda that is actually, i think, aiming to help
the American people. Our agenda is very consistent with the
things that the American people voted for on November fifth,
for of course, present and Trump's agenda out of a
lot of the things that the Biden administration tried to

(28:04):
bring into our government, and of course saving money, respecting
American people and the things that they want and their
rights and the Constitution, you know, a wild concept. It's
nice to be able to be on a team that
is committed to writing the ship.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Of course.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
Congressman Abe is on the hask Committee he's on veteran affairs.
He's a vegan himself, and so he is committed to
making sure that those stakeholders are respected as well. So
let's you know, back the blue, respect our military, and
get this thing sorted.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Ladies, appreciate you as always. All right, Secret Service has
a new director. What do we make of that? We'll
find out next. We have a new Secret Service director.

(28:57):
And to put it mildly, that was really really necessary
after the embarrassing failures we have seen. But what do
we know about him? What kind of reforms do we need?
Joining me now, Susan Crabtree, Real Clear Politics, National political correspondent. Okay, Susan,
tell me about Sean.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
This is not a household name. Most people know Sean
kurran Is.

Speaker 11 (29:21):
He is the head of the Donald Trump detail from
the campaign and he's been with him for two years.
He was the one one of the first Secret Service
agents to leap onto Donald Trump. And in that whole
situation where they put their bodies, they create a body bunker,

(29:41):
they call it.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
But as you know, that body bunker.

Speaker 11 (29:46):
Really could not withstand the tenacity of Donald Trump, and
he went broke through it and yelled pumped his fist
and yelled fight by fight. So, yeah, the person that
you are have a circle around, that's Sean, and he
is he has a pretty good reputation in the Sacred Service.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
People is very level headed. People like him.

Speaker 11 (30:12):
But he was also in charge of that detail where
there were layers of failures. So there was a site
agent and there's a lead agent. The site agent is
on his detail, and she's the one that did not
properly cover that AGR building. And then a supervisor, you know,
a senior supervisor to her, also did not cover check

(30:37):
her work to make sure that AGR building was covered correctly.
So there's a mixed feelings about the situation with Sean.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Certainly, people are certainly.

Speaker 11 (30:49):
It's it's EON's better, It's world's better than it was
just yesterday when he was not named officially, But there
are some concerns that he does and have the forceful
personality that you might need in.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
A job that you're with.

Speaker 11 (31:05):
Such an overhaul is needed at the Secret Service and
with the president's life on the line. But they did
just come off across after a wonderfully successful inauguration that
they brought inside, which made it a little bit easier
to protect the president.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Okay, Susan, So let's talk about that day and then
we'll get back to Sean maybe in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
You've been digging into this a lot, doing.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Some great work. I should point out, what do you know?
What do we believe so far about that day? Because
Susan failures man failure, failure to secure a rooftop one
hundred and forty eight meters from the head of the
president of the United States of America to a lot
of people, that looks malicious. Either you are weapons grade,

(31:53):
weak and stupid, or you're involved.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
What do you know? What do you think so far?

Speaker 11 (32:01):
Well, I don't rule out the politics that played definitely
played a role. I go where the story leads, and
I will continue to go where the story leads. What
we know right now is that Kimberly Cheedle, the acting director,
who was very close to the Biden's, very very close
to Jill Biden. Jill Biden actually got her a job
at Pepsi COO after she was on the Vice President's

(32:25):
detail when they when Biden was vice president, she went
to PepsiCo. Then they brought her back to lead the
Secret Service when Biden became president. That's sort of problematic.
It's really problematic. There's been multiple commissions just recently, this
Independent Review Board bipartisan that was appointed by Biden and

(32:48):
then a Blue Ribbon Commission back during the Obama years
that both have said you really need outside, someone from
the outside because the Secret Service. There is a culture
of corruption that has been brewing at the Secret Service
for decades and no one has been able to change that.
Donald Trump came closest to it when he appointed a

(33:09):
Marine general during his first term texts Ales to head
the Secret Service. But even that Marine general was run
out of town by the corpt corrupt elements within the
Secret Service that don't like to like change that our
adverse averse to change. So it's it's a I think
Sean is world's better and everybody's rooting for him his

(33:35):
ability to protect the president, to overhaul the agency. But
even you have Dan Bongino, know as this agent of
eleven years of the agency, and you know, popular commentator
very close to Donald Trump, who's basically openly saying he's
disappointed in the selection of Sean Curran on on x

(33:57):
dot com in response to some of my stories and
even on his podcast, So it's a I think people
are deeply concerned that.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
This agency needs to be overhauled from top to bottom.

Speaker 11 (34:10):
I'm hearing that some of the top agents that were
close to Ron Row, and they're from the Clinton and
Biden eras, going back to all the way to Clinton,
that they are going to be out the door at
a very rapid clip in the next you know, certainly
this week, maybe twenty four to forty eight hours.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Susan, can you explain or expand?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I guess I should say a little bit more on
this culture of corruption in the Secret Service, because they've
been in the news a lot lately, but for most Americans,
they haven't traditionally looked at this organization in that way.
What kind of culture of corruption are we talking about?

Speaker 11 (34:48):
We're talking about anybody who's ever covered the Secret Service?
You know about the uneven discipline. If you're basically.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
In the right crowds, if you've rubbed shoulders with the
right people, haven't upset the wrong the people in power,
then you if you do something wrong, you won't be disciplined.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
If you're not in that crowd, then you will be disciplined.
It's completely uneven. There's also a lot of fraternization that's
going on the Secret Service that certainly I know from
being a military brat, you cannot occur up the chain
and down the chain of command in the military. It
happens all the time in secret service. And then people

(35:32):
have these they have something on you if they know
that about you, and there's all this backbiting and rumor
bongering in the ranks over those subjects. And it's also
you know, just I think that is also stemming. That's
been the case since you know, Karda Hana, even before
obviously Carda Hana, when they had the prostitutes scandal down

(35:53):
in Colombia that erupted in the headlines in Washington, d C.
During the abomdministration, and that's when I first started covering
the Secret Service. But that it's even gone on, you know,
decades before that. And there's also this problem with hiring
when you have this DEI policies. Kimberly Cheatle was just

(36:15):
really leaned in since she was selected hand selected by
the Biden. She leaned into all the executive orders on DEI.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
And she made this thirty by thirty Pridge. She came
out with this and signed it.

Speaker 11 (36:28):
It's a national movement to have thirty percent of your
workforce in law enforcement agencies be women, especially women at
the officers and agents, in this case uniform divisional officers.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
So she was at twenty four percent.

Speaker 11 (36:44):
I heard when she departed, when she was pushed out
after her ridiculous slope roof comments during the hearing at
the congressional hearing right after the July thirteenth assassination attempt,
So our assession attempt. So it's Cheetle is a political animal.

(37:07):
And she denied the Secret Service extra assets for Donald
Trump even though his rallies were attracting tens of thousands
of people, and she treated him by protocol and outmoded
protocol that were the former presidents don't get counter snipers.
Former presidents don't get counter assault teams, they don't get

(37:30):
counter surveillance units. So you know, Sean Curran rightly pushed
back repeatedly against those security denials, saying this doesn't make
any sense.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
And then at the as.

Speaker 11 (37:43):
You know, there was an Iranian threat at the very
very end of the while they were trying to prepare
for the Butler rally. In fact, the FBI arrested this
this Pakistani individual with ties to Iran the day before
the rally UH and the detail was read into that

(38:06):
that threat, So they knew that they needed more assets
and they should have been operating in a very high
high stress level, you know, high security level. And the
fact that nobody checked who was on that AGR building
and how they were going to be covering it in
terms of their law enforcement partners, it doesn't make any sense.

(38:27):
And there was problems with the counter snipers too, and
where they were positioned you'd know, you know, you'd be
able to ask really good questions about that, but where
they were located on the building, there was a line
of sight issue. There was between the AGR building and
the counter snipers. There was a huge tree right there
and they didn't they didn't protect that AGR building. So

(38:50):
there was multiple I will say that the counter snipers
aren't getting most of the blame because they were sent
in very late because of this this Iranian threat. They
were sent in two days and they usually take about
four to five days to do their site evaluation and
write up their report and provide where they're going to be.
So they were thrown in late and we're hustling. And

(39:13):
it's really the issue with where the perimeter was located.
Because Ryan Ruth got access to the venue, it was
didn't take much. The public was looking right at the
public could had a line of sight problems with them too,
So they were just multiple failures the siloed communications. We

(39:33):
could go on and on, but there are some concerns
that Sean Kerran led the team where this inexperienced woman
agent named Meo Perez was the site agent and she
was working with her counterpart, another woman, Meredith Bank, from
the Pittsburgh Field office, and they were the ones in

(39:55):
charge of the security and it fell apart. So it
is there, but it's also their supervisor's fault. So blame
is going around between Pittsburgh Field Office and the Donald
Trump detail that Sean Currn headed. And right now people
are concerned in the Pittsburgh Field office that they're going
to take the fall, and because Sean is moving up,

(40:17):
they're not going that the Donald Trump detail is going
to skate and they're not going to be held responsible.
So there's a lot of dissension going on in the
Secret Service right now. It's really troubled agency, you know,
people are just have their they're worried about their jobs.
Morale is terrible from the campaign. They were at a

(40:40):
running at a terrible pace during the campaign, no time off,
and they weren't getting paid for their overtime anymore because
they already hit the ceiling for overtime, so they felt
like in as many ways they were working for free.
And their surveys have been done in federal agencies and
they have one of the lowest morales Rellen of all

(41:01):
federal agencies. So he's really got his work cut out
from him.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Man alive, he certainly does. Susan, that was awesome, great reporting.
You come back soon, please. I almost forgot about the
whole scan of one Cartagana. And now this is a
family show with children watching, so I'm not going to
go into the details. But they were having a great
time done in Columbia, a really great time.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
That was not confidence inspiring.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
And we still don't know was someone in the government
involved that day. I hope not, but we don't know. Anyway,
We're not done yet. We'll be back, all right. It
is time to lighten the mood, and nothing lightens my

(41:54):
mood more than watching Tim Burchet kills me. Okay, Tim
Burch ad great congressman from Tennessee. You know he comes
on this show all the time. We loved him. It's
just so dry, matter of fact, and he just doesn't care.
He very clearly doesn't care about any of these people.
And he went on with Jim Acosta and he just
he just abused that little snake.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Just covered on CNN.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
What you're saying this is, this is not Fox, Congressman.
You can't just spin a tail and pull the wool
out of people's eyes.

Speaker 11 (42:24):
This is CNN.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
This is the news.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
We're asking out and tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
And that's why more people are watching the cartoon network
Spongebobb reruns.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Right now, I see it the wall
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