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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now here's Jimmy Barrett.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
All right, here's a tough one. This is this is
a tough one. Uh, Israel and Iran. Yeah, we we
know there's there's a fight going on. We also know
that the President is getting I think a little bit
more involved in this. So my my question for our
listeners today was how far should we be willing to
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go in order to be able to help Israel? I mean,
Israel is the most capable perhaps, I mean, certainly based
on size, the most capable military country outside of the superpowers,
you know, for a small country which is basically the
size of it, you know, smaller than a lot of
American states, especially Texas. They I mean, they've always had
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a history of having to defend themselves and they're very
very good at it. They also have the latest military technology,
well much of the latest military technology, and they so
far it would appear that they have been pretty successful
in taking out some of the key military players in
Iran and some of the softer nuclear targets. And that's
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what they've been doing. I mean that they should not
be lost on anybody that what Iran has been doing
is they've been taking out military leaders and military targets
that mean them direct harm. What Iran does is they
just lob as many missiles and drones in the Israel
as they can. They don't care about hitting civilians, they
don't care about hitting hospitals or schools or any of
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those things. They're just trying to kill as many people
as they can. It's also my belief that we, being
the Great Satan, are also in the crosshairs. So it's
not just about how do we help Israel, it's how
do we help ourselves as well to a certain extent,
And that's kind of where I'm coming from on this,
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and that's why I asked the question on the show
this morning about bunker buster bombs in particular, we have
something Israel does not have. It's called a bunker buster,
and it is a bomb that is capable of breaking
through some pretty stiff fortifications. The main part of Iran's
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nuclear program the research program is in a mountain. Basically,
it's buried in a mountain and it's there to try
to make it as impenetrable as possible, impossible to hit,
but the bunker bust bombs could get the job done.
So my question to our listeners this morning, and I'll
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share some of the talkbacks with you, was should we
give Israel our bunker busters? Is there any other military
help we should give them? How far should we be
willing to go to help Israel? Or should we take
the stance? And there are plenty of people are Tucker
Carlson's taking this stance, Steve Bannon's taking this stance, not
our war, we shouldn't get involved, et cetera, et cetera,
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et cetera. So where do our listeners stand on this issue?
Here's some thoughts.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Good morning, Jimmy David from Cleveland. I am a little
curious about the use of the MOAB because it's a
C one thirty delivered bomb period, not exactly a stealth
bomber period.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They do have the MOP.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
The massive ordinance penetrator from the B two, but I'm
not sure we have any in that region.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Curious as to your.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Thoughts, good idea, Jimmy gravel Pitt and Iran would be great.
How about if we drop a little new can make.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
A glass factory out of it? Got a lot of
sand over there.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, Listen, nuclear weapons is in a whole different category.
I mean, it shouldn't be lost on us that the
reason why if we do get involved, the reason why
we're going to get involved, is because we believe Iran
should not have a nuclear weapon because they would not
be responsible in using it. If we can eliminate Iran's
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nuclear program and basically newter them, then I don't think
it'd be responsible for us to drop a nuclear weapon either.
And I don't think we need to go that route.
You know, I don't mind turning it into a gravel pit,
but I don't think we need a nuclear weapon in
order to do that.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
We should go all the way to help Israel. Israel
has been our ally for decades and we should not
let up now in our support for them. And absolutely not,
Iran does not deserve a neucular weapon, Nor can they
be trusted the countries that they would obliterate within nuclear
weapons that they were going to acquire within six months
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if no action was taken against them.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Jimmy, this is Aaron from Montgomery. I don't think we
should assist the Israelis with the war. However, if the
factory just blew up on its own, we could always
claim we didn't know anything about how it happened.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Good morning, Jimmy. I've always been opposed on the idea
of getting into someone else's battles. I understand that Israel
is our ally, but we should not be fighting their fight.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's why I say no, Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I would just suggest that their fight is kind of
our fight in this. Like I said, Israel is the
little Satan as far as the Ietolas in the leadership
of Iran is concerned, and we are we are the
great Satan. We we are their real target at some point,
we are the ones that they totally want to eliminate.
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It we allow them to continue to do what they're
doing as far as developing nuclear programs, then there's always
the possibility that eventually they have the technology to deliver
that nuclear weapon against us. So rather than allow that
to happen, Uh, it seems to make more sense to
me to be involved at this point in time so
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that that positive possibility does not become a possibility, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
A couple of more.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
When it comes to helping Israel, I think we should
let them fight it out themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Thank you, Hey, Jimmy Joe from Montgomery. Ever since I
can remember, Iran has.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Been a nuisance.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
We need to give Israel to bunker baumb let them
traffic can be done.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
With our ring.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Okay, and there you go. That's that's some of our
listener thoughts. And it's it's a wide range, you know,
when it comes to doing warlike things. You know, I
think we're all all. I think we all are kind
of queasy about doing it number one, and I I
can't help but think as somebody who lived through the
Vietnam conflict, somebody who was alive to see that. You know,
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you you get jaded by watching, you know, a war
being fought with both you know, with a hand tied
behind your back, which is basically what we as a
country did during Vietnam. We didn't go in there to
win a war, and to fight an endless war that
we have no intention of winning makes no sense to anybody.
I completely get that, But I don't think that that's
the way. If we got involved in this. I don't
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think that's the way Trump would fight a war, nor
do I think that's the way the Israelis would.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
All right, quick low break.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
We are back with more in a moment, Jimmy Barrett
show here an am nine to fifty KPRC. All right,
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a couple more thoughts on Israel, Iran and a potential
conflict before we move on to a few other things
here on this Wednesday afternoon. Oh, I should I should
mention we're getting ready to go to Greece. I'm not
saying that because I'm trying to brag about going on
a vacation to Greece. We're taking a group of listeners
with us. This is the and I talked about it
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a long long time ago, and there's several dozen listeners
who are going on this trip with us. And we
leave tomorrow, So I will be off tomorrow, Friday and
all next week. We'll do some best stuffs for you
in order to fill the time. And yes, I'll have
pictures and I'm sure i'll have plenty of things to
relate to you when I come back. One of the
stories I saw having to do with Europe. I guess
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there was some protesting going on in Athens. I don't
know what the protesting was about. I don't know if
it had anything to do. I don't think it had
anything to do with No King's Protest or any of
that kind of stuff related to the United States. I
think there's been some protesting, especially in places like France,
of all the overtime hours. Evidently that people are working
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at tourist attractions in Italy and France and maybe Greece
as well, and the workers are having to work overtime
and everything is super crowded, and they're upset about that,
and they're protesting about that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I know that at the Louver in Paris, for example,
they've had like two to three times on a daily basis,
two to three times the normal capacity go through the museum,
and it's driving some of the Europeans crazy. And I'm
a little surprised by that number number one. I'm a
little surprised that they are that busy with the economy
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being as it is for most people. I mean, it's
work to socide enough money to take a trip to
Europe if you're coming from the Unit States. And I
would also think that countries that are very dependent on
tourism for their income. Would be grateful or happy that
tourists are showing up? I mean, here beats the alternative
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would you rather be working some overtime? Where would you
rather not have a job. But then again, you know,
not to disparage all Europeans. I'm sure there's plenty of ambitious,
ambitious Europeans. I don't think they have the same work
ethic as we have in the United States. And we
can argue about whether or not that that's a good
thing or a bad thing, because sometimes we just work
ourselves to death and work too hard. But anyway, I
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saw that, and I thought that was kind of interesting.
I may have a report on that when we get back.
We'll see what we run into once we get there.
All right, a couple more thoughts on Israel Iran. President
Trump got asked about continuing to negotiate with Iran, which
I think he basically said he he's in no mood
to negotiate at this point. But here's President Trump responding
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to that question and then reaction to him response from
Porver White House Press Secretary and five panelists. The five
panelist Kaylie Mcinaty, where are you open.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
To negotiating with the Iranians right now or do you
want to wait. I've been negotiating. I told him to
do the deal. They should have done the deal. The
cities have been blown to pieces that we have lost
a lot of people. They should have done the deal.
I told him to do the deal. So I don't know.
I'm not too much in a mood to negotiating.
Speaker 9 (11:27):
So I observed America first, upfront and personal and term one.
And what I learned about President Trump. He's a man
of action, not words. He's not in novel Chamberlain. He
is a Churchill. He is not someone who sits in
a beach chair and lets history happen to him. He
makes history. He acts strategically. He acts when it's in
our interest. When he took out Sola money, when he
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took out Albig Daddy, when he acted in Syria, when
they use chemical weapons on their own people. Every dictator
in the world observed that.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And you know what happened.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
Putin for the first time in four presidencies, did not
invade a sovereign country. The last and final year of
his presidency, not a single American troop died in Afghanistan.
Isis dismantled. He's not words, he is action. How is
Bannon and the folks that you mentioned and the people
advocating for just sitting back and taking it easy, how
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are they any different than Biden's foreign policy. Biden's foreign
policy was I say don't and putin does I say don't,
and the Taliban takes over Afghanistan, I say don't and
two global wars start on my watch. That is the
Biden forum policy. That is by no definition, America First.
Auran has had five decades, five decades, almost half a
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century to talk, and what they've done instead killed six
hundred nine American troops in Iraq. What they've done is
put an assassination plot on President Trump's head. What they've
done is take American hostages and Rea haavoc on the world.
America First is not sitting in a beach chair and
using words. It's taking decisive action. When we can take
out four doh the one swoop of airplane.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Well said, well said Caley Magnet. That's impressive. No, that
was I thought that was impressive. I think that pretty
well states the case, does it not. I think the
reason why there was an assassination plot from Iran for
President Trump is because they were fearful of this day
of how far President Trump might be willing to go
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to help Israel, how far he might be willing to
go to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon. And
now that day has come, it'll be interesting. I'll be
gone for like what ten days, could be a whole
different world when I get back. All right, now, as
far as taking out the threat, let's look at this
from a military perspective, General retired General Jack Keen on
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taking out the Iranian military threat.
Speaker 10 (13:49):
Well, certainly where the president is, he's supporting Israel to
complete the campaign that they started here, and that campaign
focuses on Aron center of Gravity, their nuclear enterprise, and
they want to destroy that enterprise as much as they
possibly can, decapitate the leadership, and they're doing a remarkable
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job in doing that and also eliminate their ballistic missiles,
which is their major weapon that they're using against the Israelis.
And they're making significant progress in all three of these areas,
as you have noted on this show, and the President
is behind that one hundred percent. I think what is
in the offering here is Israel knows full well even
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though will they have significant imagination and significant covert capability.
They know that there's a couple of deeply buried sites
that they're very challenging for them to get to with
air power, and they I'm assuming they would like the
United States to assist them in achieving that end state.
After all, the presidents did say he's not going to
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permit Aroan to have a nuclear weapon, and if we
walk away and leave those sites intact, then the IOTOTA
will be able to achieve what he's always wanted.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Here.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
The reason why he never voluntarily dismantled the program through
negotiations is because he was willing to accept the air strike,
believing that he could still recover some aspect of his
nuclear enterprise after the air strikes are completed, and he
would be able to rebuild that nuclear program. That is
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where his head is, and we've got to stop that
from happening, in my judgment, assist or Israelis in their
air campaign by conducting their limited but focused air campaign
on using penetration bombing to eliminate the end of that
nuclear end state. And that will be a major strategic
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achievement that takes off the table think of what it
does takes off the table the thought of a nuclear
arms race in the Middle East. It reduces Iran's as
a major power broker in the region. And for the
Congressman to say that we've never been at walled with
Iran formally, Yeah, but they killed two hundred and forty
one Marines in the eighties. They blew up two of
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our embassies in Lebanon and Kuwait and killed hundreds more.
They killed scores of our Air Force personnel in the
barracks in Saudi Arabian and nineties, and it's a documented
fact that they developed advanced IEDs to focus on US
soldiers in the war in Iraq and at Lloyd Austin,
the last general we had their estimated they killed two
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thousand of US there. So this has been going on
for forty five years.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
That is, and they'll go on for another forty five
if we don't do something about it. You know, you could,
you could tolerate, you know, conventional bombing, even if you're
as real to a certain extent. But it's it's the
specter of a state like Iran having a nuclear weapons
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that's what makes my heart skip a beat. And I've
seen enough people say, oh, they would never use that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Really, is that what you really believe?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Because you know, I've heard the rhetoric coming out of
the Iotolis, I've heard what they've had to say. They
believe again we are the great Satan. We need to
be eliminated from the planet. And they don't mind the
idea of armageddon because when armageddon comes, they think that
they're all going to their hundred virgins and we're all
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going to hell. So I don't think they feared that
they could bring on the end of the world. I
don't think that. I don't think there's any real logic
involved when it comes to the Iranian leadership. Now, I
don't know what happens if you force the Eyetolas out.
I don't know if there are rational, reasonable Iranians that could,
you know, pick up the power vacuum and returning around
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to something close to what it was when it was
ruled by the Shaw. Not that the show of Aram
was a perfect person. He stretch the imagination, But as
far as you know, dealing with that is a country
far better place to be than dealing with these Iahtolas.
So yeah, I don't do we roll the dice either way,
all right? Quick little break. We are back with morn
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a moment. Please stay with us, Jimmy Barrett Show, AM
nine fifty k PRC. I want to start final segment today,
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but kind of a kind of a local segment here.
Do you remember Patrese spelled p A t R E
c E. I don't know why I remember that, but
I do.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I remember.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I remember names that are are not spelled in a
traditional way, and I go, Okay, how did they come
up with that? Is that like a combination of something,
or is that how they mom and dad thought you
spelled Patrice p A t r E s E. Or
did they sound it out that it sounds like it
should be spelled that way. I don't know why they
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spelled p A t R I ce it it should
be I don't know, you know, it's uh, you know
how some people like Michael spelled with M y. I never,
you know, I get it that that's what it sounds like.
I don't know if it was a sound like thing
and they weren't sure how you really spell Michael, or
they they're just trying to be different sometimes sometimes people
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when it comes to names, they just try to be different.
But a name that I won't soon forget and maybe
you two is Patrice Lee. Patrise Lee used to be
the director of the Houston Water Department. You know, we've
had nothing but problems with the water department. And what
was even worse is that she was basically stealing money.
You know, she's making sweetheart deals and kicking kickbacks to
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the tune of seven hundred thousand dollars. So we tried her.
She was found guilty by a jury of her peers.
She was sentenced by the judge to ten years in prison.
She's been in jail for just under five months, inevidently
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is coming up for parole. What how do you get sentenced?
How do you steal seven hundred thousand dollars and then
get sentenced to ten years and after five months you're
eligible for parole. What the heck is that all about.
Here's the report from our television partner KPRC TOO.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
A Harris County judge sentenced Patrice Lee to ten years
in prison in February.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We were there in court when it happened.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
Lee was charged with engaging and organized criminal activity, abuse
of official capacity, and four counts of bribery for orchestrating
a kickback scheme we uncovered that cost the city of
Houston millions of dollars. The Texas Rangers say Lee gave
waterline repair contracts to family and friends in exchange for
a cut of the money. At the beginning of this year,
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Lee pleaded guilty to one count of bribery. In exchange,
the district attorney dropped all of the other charges against her,
and she agreed to the ten year prison sentence. So
how does ten years become five months? In Texas, non
violent offenders only have to serve a fourth of their sentence.
Lee got credit for the two hundred and fifty days
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she sat in jail waiting for a trial, and once
she got to prison, she gets credit for good time,
essentially two to three days credited for every day she's
actually served. Crime victim's advocate Andy Kahn says, even if
she has denied parole this year, the Board of Pardons
and Paroles would have to review her case every year.
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But Texas lawmakers just passed Senate Bill fifteen oh six
that allows the board to use their own discretion and
delay considering inmates for for up to five more years.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
There are certain cases that don't merit being looked at
every year. This is one of them. I get it.
It's classified as non violent. But you hurt so many people.
I and so many people still to this day are
recuperating from what you did in a trusted position.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So should you be reviewed every year? No? No? Should
you be paroled after five months?
Speaker 8 (22:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Should you have to serve a minimum amount of your
sentence whatever that we deemed, regardless of whether it's a
you know, a violent crime or not. I believe you should.
What lesson is learned by five months, you know, especially,
she still has any of that money. It's ridiculous, ridiculous.
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You still seven hundred thousand dollars from from the taxpayers
of Houston. And and and that's the slap on the
wrist you get. And what is this two to three
days for every day you serve behaving yourself, you know,
for just for just for being good.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I didn't throw my.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Food, I didn't attack another prisoner, you know, I was,
I was polite to the guards. Well that's oh great,
Well then we're gonna give you instead of serving one day,
we're gonna give you credit for serving three days. Really,
that's all it takes, that's all it takes you weren't
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you weren't buying drugs, you didn't try to ship a
prison guard or you know, murder one of your fellow prisoners. Therefore,
you get out early for being for behaving yourself, for
being a good little boy or girl.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
You know, if we continue to head in this direction,
and you know, between the judges and the slap on
the risk of the judges give you to begin with,
and then the in the prison system doing the same
dog one thing, it's no wonder people have no fear
of jail. Now, I personally would fear it, you know,
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I've seen too many prison movies involving bars of soap.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I would.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I would fear it. But I think for some people
it's worth the risk. It's worth the risk because it
it's not so hard once you get in there, and
most of the time, you know, you don't end up
serving your your whole sentence. You know, all you have
to do is behave yourself in prison and you get
out in half half the time. It's it's it's just
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where where is the where where's the punishment? And I'm
I'm not even talking about it from a standpoint of rehabilitation.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I don't believe in rehabilitation. If if being in prison
is not enough to stop you from ever wanting to
be in prison again, then prison was too damn easy.
I mean, if you get so comfortable in prison that
you actually liked to don't mind if you go back,
then we just made it way too easy for you.
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We made it way too easy. All right, hey, listen
joined it. I will see you in about ten days. Again,
we're taking our group of listeners of KTRH and KPRC listeners.
Maybe I think KTRH listeners, although sometimes it's one of
the same, a little trip to Greece, and we fly
out tomorrow and were in Athens on Friday, and then
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we're taking a cruise of Vicinos and some of the
other islands of Greece over the next seven days. And
I will be back a week from Monday. We'll have
some bestus for you. You'll behave all right, talk to
you soon.