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September 26, 2021 72 min

Husband and Wife, Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, are evolutionary biologists who spend their time exploring human nature. They’re both on the political left, with careers as professors. In 2017, the two spoke out against radical orthodoxy at Evergreen State College which sparked outrage and protests, leading to their resignations. Now, they’re hosts on the Dark Horse Podcast, operating as exiled professors. 

In our episode, we discuss the fundamental problem with the phrase “Follow The Science”, how we save our collective consciousness, and what human civilization must do to continue growing and progressing into our potential while also maintaining our existence and our foundations.

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