December 8, 2025 • 8 mins
On this episode of The Thought Shower, Sos joins Intern John to talk their weekend, and when a friendship will end
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And look at this special guest in the Thought shower,
one the only Shelby sauce.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wow, the showers, it's shower.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's been a minute since you've been in the Thought Shower.
It's been like a year probably. Indeed, So I was
how we got here was yesterday. I was. I took
down my tree from upstairs, like I probably set up
Christmas party.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I didn't say you didn't do anything well.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I was setting up a FaceTime from Shelby. I go,
uh oh, And I knew the Ravens game was going on.
It was the hey this game? Ever, Hey, what are
you doing? I'm gonna pump the tree. You're like, okay,
cool me and Savera coming up. I got okay, yes,
And then I said to you too, like all right, stop,
are you actually coming? Because if you are, I'm gonna
stop putting the tree.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Up, which is like kind of rude.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
How is that rude?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Because why would you just up yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I physically put the tree up. I knew YouTube much
rather put the lights up. So I was like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Totally you know, if there's one thing about you, I'm like,
let me decorate your tree and put your lights on.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
How many times you've done it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
More times you just don't know how put on lights correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well anyway, so there was that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, so the tree is up, which is nice. That's
that part's done so at least by the Christmas party,
which is also skills birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, say you should give him a cake? Are you
totally this off here?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
He's got a very sensy tummy though, I'll begin like
a little like dog cake.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, like the I think they're like peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, the best part of yesterday was so I had
ordered pizza for Thing one and Thing two, and I
had went in the kitchen for something that came back
and Sauce gave me a look where I said, what
did you do? You like, what do you mean when
you catch a toddler doing something they shouldn't do? And
I started going, what'd you take? Would you leave? What'd
you went? After I went through like that, what did
(01:49):
I do? I was like, what did you give skittles?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Big?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Like I ain't say that, but your face did.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, he likes he likes buffal taking pizza.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I kind of figure when he was sitting by
you and is staring yeah, like like, well, he's probably
doing this because he's.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Gotten I started calling him Skillet.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, that's like his new nickname.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know if that's going to stick.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't I think it will get it because it's
skillet because I started, Oh, thank.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You so much.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That was really dumb, thanks so much. Wow, it took
so long to understand. Okay, No, I think that he
misses me.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm sure he does. Yeah, you know where to find him.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I literally found him. I saw him all weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, so that was that. On Friday, boys had a
game lost, played well though Saturday, How amu I do?
On Saturday?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You went to high We had the event, a.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Great event, and then sasture of me and a buddy
Shane to hide. Yea lovely dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You loved me drive a which made me call my
mom ask a bad driver.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
She said, yeah, but I don't think I am. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's great. But the irony is when I was I
was telling Shane at dinner like the irony is Shelby
always complaining she gets carsick when I drive, and but
she break checks more than me. If I was driving like.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You, I wasn't break checking anybody.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, but you were kept like like stopping and started.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Basically because people in front of us.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And then you also you're annoying with the car because
you use the radio. I get hit clibs, like you
just keep changing music every five seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I didn't know if you guys liked the songs were
listening to.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
We're just having we were having fun, just vibing and talking. Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah you can have twenty downy yeah, because we're uh,
nobody was trying to do anything done.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, it's just having a fun conversation with friends.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh cool, So what we're going to talk about today?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, oh, but I know you don't get to dictate.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
This as asking what you were going to talk about. Well,
it's your podcast. It is true, even though my kna
is it okay? If you okay, do you want me
to take it off?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
No, okay, that's what I thought, because because I feel
like that'd be I could even be a little bit
a little bit angry.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I would not at all. It's your podcast. My forehead
is so itchy.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I was gonna talk about how I know friendship's not
gonna last. Oh yeah, let's go starting off the bag.
According to experts, if it's consistently one sided.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, if you're always reaching out, probably not gonna last. Also,
whenever I'm the one always reaching out, I feel stupid
and I hate feeling stupid, So probably not gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, It's almost like if it's supposed to be a relationship,
you both put something in but you're not. But eventually,
if you're not getting anything in return, you have nothing
less to put in, if that makes sense exactly. There's
always like if it's more so like you become their help.
You're on call for the other person.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Basically because like you're the one.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But also if it's like I guess I'm only thinking
about how it like like I'm thinking about my friend
I used to always reach out to, and I'm like,
why am I the only one doing the work?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's what I'm saying. Like, eventually it's it's again you
are on call for them, and that's not that's not fair.
If being around this person makes you feel bad, Yeah,
I do think that's one of those things where like
it sounds dumb and obvious, but I think if you
sit back and go you when you that person, you
realize you're always.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Drained, yeah, because like that's like the girl that I
used to be friends with that I ended, like our
friendship this past year. I felt like every time I
was around her, I was like, what's gonna happen next?
Like I was always like ready for something else to
like the ball drop, and I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I always say the test is the phone test and
their name pops up on as a call or text,
do you go yeah or are you excited to see
what the person has to say?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Or like she'd always like call me. I remember before
we stopping friends, she would call me crying about like
just dumb stuff that like was all the time. And
I remember I like answered once when I was on
a date, you know, because I really thought something happened
for some reason. It was like that's when I realized,
like every time she calls me, she's crying. Yeah, but
it wasn't about anything like actually serious.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's about just like really dumb stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And I'm not like trying to like, you know, say
her feelings are not valid, but like they were.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was really dumb.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But that's like one of those friends where it's like
there's always a five alarm fire. Yeah, And it's like, hey,
I'm just tired.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Hey, I'm just trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, if you have any plans to get together okay,
And they say one of the biggest cause of relationships
not lasting when people do initiate time together.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah that's fair, But I don't know, like I I've
been friends, Like even the other day, I was talking
to a front on the phone and we don't have
plans and I haven't seen her in a while, but
we're still friends.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I guess maybe it's more so like if you know
that if you don't make the plans, they won't happen.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, that's valid.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We both like make plans with each other, but we
just never see each other.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah. Yeah. But I think there's those people where it's
like I've realized sometimes in friendships, like oh, if I
stopped being the one to reach out, yeah, I probably
wouldn't hear from them forever. That's a good which is like.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yer, I'm like, I'm not reaching out to anybody anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Sure if there's an unresolved breach of trust.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Okay, like they like shared something about you with people, Yeah, okay,
that's not great.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, they say one of the hardest issues to deal with.
Friendship is when you find out a friend is not
being honest with you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well yeah, huh.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They say, unlike friends and colleagues or friends or who
we choose to have in our lives, real friends, person,
we're honest with person we trust.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I mean that's valid.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it's like you share something and like you like,
you know, I'm like a very loyal friend. So like
if you like breached that then yeah, probably would not.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, our good friend Shane I had said that that
man is stiel trapped. Okay, that man knows basically where
all the bodies are hidden. What do you mean, let's
you know any secret? Hell I can't tell you now?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Be valid?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, that's uh, that's it. They say that if the
breach of trusts main unresolved, So you guys haven't talked
about it even, it just kind of underlying issues like that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, and he's like moving along and it's never a
result that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, and then they don't listen to your perspective.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, it's always like their perspective.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I hate that I need for people don't understand like
where I'm coming from all times.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, they say, they say, in a healthy friendship, you
work through conflict openly, instead pushing it away, pretending it's
not there or ghosts north drawing. You're able to say, hey,
this hurts me. The other person wants to listen because
they are invested in continuing relationship with you.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I think that's fair. But it goes back to like,
is it really a friend if not listen to your perspective?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, if you're not, even if you don't try to
understand where I'm coming from. And you don't have to
like all the time, even though I said at all
times you have to I didn't really mean that, but
if at least like try.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I think your friends supposed to care for you. Yeah,
they're supposed to. Like, I don't know why, make it
a lot better. See you succeed. Life's too short for
a cheap liquor and bad friends exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's a quote.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Hey, Sauce, it's been a pleasure have you in here.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You can follow It's a bun wires warm at Shelby Sauce.
You can follow me at intern GIHN Radio. I'll see
a Wednesday. But by
And look at this special guest in the Thought shower,
one the only Shelby sauce.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wow, the showers, it's shower.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's been a minute since you've been in the Thought Shower.
It's been like a year probably. Indeed, So I was
how we got here was yesterday. I was. I took
down my tree from upstairs, like I probably set up
Christmas party.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I didn't say you didn't do anything well.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I was setting up a FaceTime from Shelby. I go,
uh oh, And I knew the Ravens game was going on.
It was the hey this game? Ever, Hey, what are
you doing? I'm gonna pump the tree. You're like, okay,
cool me and Savera coming up. I got okay, yes,
And then I said to you too, like all right, stop,
are you actually coming? Because if you are, I'm gonna
stop putting the tree.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Up, which is like kind of rude.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
How is that rude?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Because why would you just up yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I physically put the tree up. I knew YouTube much
rather put the lights up. So I was like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Totally you know, if there's one thing about you, I'm like,
let me decorate your tree and put your lights on.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
How many times you've done it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
More times you just don't know how put on lights correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well anyway, so there was that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, so the tree is up, which is nice. That's
that part's done so at least by the Christmas party,
which is also skills birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, say you should give him a cake? Are you
totally this off here?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
He's got a very sensy tummy though, I'll begin like
a little like dog cake.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, like the I think they're like peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, the best part of yesterday was so I had
ordered pizza for Thing one and Thing two, and I
had went in the kitchen for something that came back
and Sauce gave me a look where I said, what
did you do? You like, what do you mean when
you catch a toddler doing something they shouldn't do? And
I started going, what'd you take? Would you leave? What'd
you went? After I went through like that, what did
(01:49):
I do? I was like, what did you give skittles?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Big?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Like I ain't say that, but your face did.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, he likes he likes buffal taking pizza.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I kind of figure when he was sitting by
you and is staring yeah, like like, well, he's probably
doing this because he's.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Gotten I started calling him Skillet.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, that's like his new nickname.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know if that's going to stick.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't I think it will get it because it's
skillet because I started, Oh, thank.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You so much.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That was really dumb, thanks so much. Wow, it took
so long to understand. Okay, No, I think that he
misses me.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm sure he does. Yeah, you know where to find him.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I literally found him. I saw him all weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, so that was that. On Friday, boys had a
game lost, played well though Saturday, How amu I do?
On Saturday?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You went to high We had the event, a.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Great event, and then sasture of me and a buddy
Shane to hide. Yea lovely dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You loved me drive a which made me call my
mom ask a bad driver.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
She said, yeah, but I don't think I am. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's great. But the irony is when I was I
was telling Shane at dinner like the irony is Shelby
always complaining she gets carsick when I drive, and but
she break checks more than me. If I was driving like.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You, I wasn't break checking anybody.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, but you were kept like like stopping and started.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Basically because people in front of us.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And then you also you're annoying with the car because
you use the radio. I get hit clibs, like you
just keep changing music every five seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I didn't know if you guys liked the songs were
listening to.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
We're just having we were having fun, just vibing and talking. Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah you can have twenty downy yeah, because we're uh,
nobody was trying to do anything done.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, it's just having a fun conversation with friends.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh cool, So what we're going to talk about today?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, oh, but I know you don't get to dictate.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
This as asking what you were going to talk about. Well,
it's your podcast. It is true, even though my kna
is it okay? If you okay, do you want me
to take it off?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
No, okay, that's what I thought, because because I feel
like that'd be I could even be a little bit
a little bit angry.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I would not at all. It's your podcast. My forehead
is so itchy.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I was gonna talk about how I know friendship's not
gonna last. Oh yeah, let's go starting off the bag.
According to experts, if it's consistently one sided.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, if you're always reaching out, probably not gonna last. Also,
whenever I'm the one always reaching out, I feel stupid
and I hate feeling stupid, So probably not gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, It's almost like if it's supposed to be a relationship,
you both put something in but you're not. But eventually,
if you're not getting anything in return, you have nothing
less to put in, if that makes sense exactly. There's
always like if it's more so like you become their help.
You're on call for the other person.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Basically because like you're the one.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But also if it's like I guess I'm only thinking
about how it like like I'm thinking about my friend
I used to always reach out to, and I'm like,
why am I the only one doing the work?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's what I'm saying. Like, eventually it's it's again you
are on call for them, and that's not that's not fair.
If being around this person makes you feel bad, Yeah,
I do think that's one of those things where like
it sounds dumb and obvious, but I think if you
sit back and go you when you that person, you
realize you're always.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Drained, yeah, because like that's like the girl that I
used to be friends with that I ended, like our
friendship this past year. I felt like every time I
was around her, I was like, what's gonna happen next?
Like I was always like ready for something else to
like the ball drop, and I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I always say the test is the phone test and
their name pops up on as a call or text,
do you go yeah or are you excited to see
what the person has to say?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Or like she'd always like call me. I remember before
we stopping friends, she would call me crying about like
just dumb stuff that like was all the time. And
I remember I like answered once when I was on
a date, you know, because I really thought something happened
for some reason. It was like that's when I realized,
like every time she calls me, she's crying. Yeah, but
it wasn't about anything like actually serious.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's about just like really dumb stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And I'm not like trying to like, you know, say
her feelings are not valid, but like they were.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was really dumb.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But that's like one of those friends where it's like
there's always a five alarm fire. Yeah, And it's like, hey,
I'm just tired.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Hey, I'm just trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, if you have any plans to get together okay,
And they say one of the biggest cause of relationships
not lasting when people do initiate time together.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah that's fair, But I don't know, like I I've
been friends, Like even the other day, I was talking
to a front on the phone and we don't have
plans and I haven't seen her in a while, but
we're still friends.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I guess maybe it's more so like if you know
that if you don't make the plans, they won't happen.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, that's valid.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We both like make plans with each other, but we
just never see each other.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah. Yeah. But I think there's those people where it's
like I've realized sometimes in friendships, like oh, if I
stopped being the one to reach out, yeah, I probably
wouldn't hear from them forever. That's a good which is like.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yer, I'm like, I'm not reaching out to anybody anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Sure if there's an unresolved breach of trust.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Okay, like they like shared something about you with people, Yeah, okay,
that's not great.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, they say one of the hardest issues to deal with.
Friendship is when you find out a friend is not
being honest with you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well yeah, huh.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They say, unlike friends and colleagues or friends or who
we choose to have in our lives, real friends, person,
we're honest with person we trust.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I mean that's valid.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it's like you share something and like you like,
you know, I'm like a very loyal friend. So like
if you like breached that then yeah, probably would not.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, our good friend Shane I had said that that
man is stiel trapped. Okay, that man knows basically where
all the bodies are hidden. What do you mean, let's
you know any secret? Hell I can't tell you now?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Be valid?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, that's uh, that's it. They say that if the
breach of trusts main unresolved, So you guys haven't talked
about it even, it just kind of underlying issues like that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, and he's like moving along and it's never a
result that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, and then they don't listen to your perspective.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, it's always like their perspective.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I hate that I need for people don't understand like
where I'm coming from all times.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, they say, they say, in a healthy friendship, you
work through conflict openly, instead pushing it away, pretending it's
not there or ghosts north drawing. You're able to say, hey,
this hurts me. The other person wants to listen because
they are invested in continuing relationship with you.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I think that's fair. But it goes back to like,
is it really a friend if not listen to your perspective?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, if you're not, even if you don't try to
understand where I'm coming from. And you don't have to
like all the time, even though I said at all
times you have to I didn't really mean that, but
if at least like try.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I think your friends supposed to care for you. Yeah,
they're supposed to. Like, I don't know why, make it
a lot better. See you succeed. Life's too short for
a cheap liquor and bad friends exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's a quote.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Hey, Sauce, it's been a pleasure have you in here.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You can follow It's a bun wires warm at Shelby Sauce.
You can follow me at intern GIHN Radio. I'll see
a Wednesday. But by
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