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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You tapped it, so we're playing it. It's ZM's Brian Clint,
the podcast. Jim and McCaw has appeared on an episode
of the Between Two Beers podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Great podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
You've been on this podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I have.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
They get into all the nitty gritty.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Don't they get the good stuff out of people, those boys?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
They really do.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
They.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
really put in the work to do the research on someone.
They talk to your close.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Network of friends and family.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They do their research.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
They really go deep.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
So Gemma, former Blackstick, three-time Olympian, mum and wife of
the greatest rugby player of all time, Richie McCaw, has
told a story about how her and Richie almost didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Why?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It almost wasn't a thing. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I received a message from.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
A guy called Richie McCaw said, hi Gemma, it was
really nice to meet you in Hamilton. And then he said,
good luck for the Olympics. I forgot to reply to
that message. I mean, he had Top Gun as his profile.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like Tom Cruise, like Maverick.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Like Maverick, with the dog as his profile picture. But
that shouldn't be letting the secret.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yes, you should.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
How embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So his profile picture turned her off.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's what I got from that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Even Richie McCaw.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
She was ripping him out going, he had Maverick from
Top Gun as his profile picture.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm not sure what year it was. I don't know
if he was rugby World Cup winning all-black captain Richie
McCaw at that stage or if he was just all-black
Richie McCaw.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
What year did he win the World Cup?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
2011 and 2015. Okay. They were definitely together 2015.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, I'm assuming it was in between 2015 Oh, you reckon? Yeah, well,
Instagram only really came about in like 2011. Well, we
don't know that it was Instagram. That could have been
a Facebook message.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh, yeah, it could have been. What year did Richie.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I reckon they got together 2013 or 2014.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
That's my bet. But I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I wonder if Google knows. Richie McCaw and Gemma Flynn...
started dating in 2012. So you were right. It was
in between the two World Cups.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
That's so good. You win a World Cup, make your
profile picture maverick from Top Gun.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You've got to say power move from her.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, big time.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
To leave him on scene.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But I don't even know if it was a conscious
thing she did.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Really?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Nah, it sounds like she was bloody focused on the Olympics. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Because I'm like, how do you.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But it also.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Sounds like she wasn't all that impressed. Because if she was.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Which is, can I say, such a good way to
go into things.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The best case scenario.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Nobody likes a Kino Bino. Yeah. You know? I don't
know what it is about... What is it about human
dynamics that.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
You would think it would be a nice thing if
someone was keen on you.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But it's something inside you goes, oh, they're into me.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Ew, yuck.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Ew, yuck.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Even if it's Richie McCaw.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh, they're into me. Ew, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Ew.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
They like me? God, they don't have standards.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Anyway, must have figured it out. Either that or Richie
double messaged like you did with Channing Tatum that time.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
But then, I mean, full circle, he was the last
one to message me and I've left him on read.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's a true story, by the way, guys, if you're
new to the show. Currently in Bree's Instagram DMs is
a message from Channing Tatum That I haven't replied to.
That you haven't replied to, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Do you ever get drunk and get tempted to?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh, maybe once.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And I'm so glad I didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Is the lighting ever really good? You're like, you know
who would like to see this? No. Magic Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
No.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
One day, one day when we're all together, if you
remind me, if there's ever a time where we're out
as a show, you know, when we're on the cans and.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You're like, you know who we should message?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Channing, then maybe. Okay.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
All right.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
All right, and that day will come.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What's the worst that can happen? He leaves me on
read again?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah. Oh, no, the worst that can happen is he
unfollows you.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh, that would be sad.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That would be devastating.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But to be honest, you're not using that follow for
anything good anyway. He was just sitting there.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And I could still talk about it regardless if he
unfollows me or not.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The point is that he one time did follow me.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
The whole point. Exactly right. Which is one time more
than most people. We want to know, what's the reason
that your relationship nearly didn't happen?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
What is the thing that means that this whole life
that you have now almost wasn't a thing? Did they
show up to the first date?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
In stubbies.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Bleeding.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, yeah, stubbies. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
With a cut on their face.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Did they show up and then they had norovirus and
they vomited on you? On the first day. On the
first day.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Oh, I feel like that would seal it for me.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Did they trip? When you guys were walking up to
the restaurant and... Knocked their two front teeth out. Knocked
their two front teeth out on the steps of the restaurant.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Maybe they left an awful first impression on you.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Where you were like, never, ever would I end up
with this person.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Maybe they were wearing a Make America Great Again hat.
But it was a dare, and they weren't allowed to
tell you that it was a dare. 0800 dials at M.
Or you can text us on 9696. What's the reason
why your relationship nearly didn't happen? It's Bray and Clint.
Gemma McCaw has opened up about how she left Richie
McCaw on scene the first time he DM'd. What did
(05:34):
you think about his message, by the way? What was
his message again? It was words to the effect of,
Hi Gemma, so great to meet you in Hamilton last week.
Best of luck for the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I like it, but then I don't because he's leaving
all the hard work up to her then.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Is he? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Like he's not really.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
There's no question in there.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
There's no question for her to then want to answer
back with.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Should have included a how do you have your pad
tie or something, eh? Something inquisitive.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
What is your order from your favourite Thai restaurant?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Are you gluten intolerant? That's because that's yes, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
What is your blood type? Asking for future reference.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
How would you rank your tolerance of gluten?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Who is your emergency contact? Can I maybe be that
person one day? Which All Black do you think is
the hottest? Please don't say Dan Carter.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, true. These are all good options. We want to know,
what's the reason why your relationship nearly didn't happen? Harmony's here. Hey, Harmony.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Hi, Harmony.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Hi, guys.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
What's the reason, Harmony, why it nearly didn't happen?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh, well, I had no intention of going on this date,
so I was just talking on Tinder, swiping and chatting
and had absolutely no intention of meeting any of them.
And my flatmate and friend, she was like, what even
is Tinder? And so I showed her my Tinder and
she was scrolling through the messages and the last person
I'd been speaking to was somebody who she worked with.
(07:01):
She was like, how many you've promised him you're going
to go on a date with him since May? And
it was like November.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Holy smokes, Harmony.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So it had been quite a long time. And I
was like, fine, I'll meet him. We'll go for a
drink tonight.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
And we did.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And now we're married and have a baby.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh, my God. So did she vouch for him because
she knew him in person?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
She said he's one of the nicest people at her work.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It was meant to be.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Isn't life crazy? And that if you hadn't handed your
phone to that person in that moment, you might never
have had that beautiful baby that you guys have.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And I feel like the universe tried to put us
together another time because we were both in Vegas at.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
The same time.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So then you might believe that it would have happened
eventually if it was meant to happen.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You would have found each other.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, you would have found each other.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
The universe was doing something.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You were drawn to each other. Cute. Thanks, Harmony. Let's
talk to Anonymous. Hi, Anonymous.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Hi, Anonymous.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
What's the reason why you and your partner almost didn't
end up together?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Because he wanted to study for his NCEA Level 3 exams.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Wait, was that his excuse for not wanting to hang
out with you?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Well, yeah, we were like, you know, back at high school,
you kind of have like that texting boyfriend kind of situation.
And then I was like, well, you know, we should
make it official. And he's like, oh, yeah, but I've
got exams coming up. And I was like, no, no,
this is year 13. Like, this doesn't mean shit, basically.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Anonymous.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
But, you know. We've been together for 16, married for 10.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Okay, wow.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And a cat.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh, well, it worked out.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
I know. I wore him down enough, and it worked
out well.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
How did he go with his NCEA level threes, though?
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Oh, he was bloody runner-up ducks at the school, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
But are you saying that if it wasn't for you,
he could have been ducks?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
He could have been the ducks.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
He would probably say yes.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah, but then would he have got you and the
beautiful life you have now?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Exactly right.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
No, absolutely not. I would have been long gone.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you could choose.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So what's worth more?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
A wonderful life, children and a wife or ducks?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Probably ducks, eh?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh, if I could get sports ducks, if I could
get sporting ducks, that'd be pretty sick. We asked how
come you and your partner nearly didn't happen. Someone said,
if I hadn't missed my flight home from Spain, I
wouldn't have been sitting next to him on the plane.
That's your dream, eh?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's my dream.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's your dream. And every time Bree gets on a flight,
Bree's fiance is terrified that Bree's going to meet the
love of her life.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, she should just rest.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because you're just open to it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
She should rest easy, though, because me on a flight,
Not good.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And you're a man spreader too on the plane.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I have my mouth open when I sleep a lot.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We said, why is the reason you guys almost didn't happen?
They said, because he had the same name as my
former partner. I ghosted him for a week because I
thought it was weird. He thought he'd messaged me, he
thought me one more time. 16 years later, we own.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So, yeah, that would happen a lot with people, I think,
especially if you've had a long relationship with someone.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That you check out with someone with the same name?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Like you'd be a bit like, oh, I don't know
if I want to date. Let's say you date someone
named Jack. For four years you date this guy Jack.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Sorry, sorry. In my mind I was doing first name
and last name.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, I think it's just first name. Wild if it's
first and last name.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
True, true, true, true.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You know, and then you have an.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Awful breakup and then the first person you meet straight
after that is a guy named Jack.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know who would like it though would be my
dad who always struggles to learn the new partner's name.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He's like, hey, can you make it easy for me?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I've only had three girlfriends in my lifetime and I'm
married to one of them. And each of them suffered
about a two-year overlap of the previous girlfriend's name.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's why you can never get divorced.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You would send your dad into a spin.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
No, I can get divorced. I just can't remarry.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Your dad would just never understand.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Someone said we both saw each other's online dating profiles
and said no to each other. Then a few months
later we met randomly at an event and started talking.
Took a couple of more months to realise and figure
out what happened online because we both looked different from
our photos.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So eventually you ended up together anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Look, here's the moral of the story. If Richie McCaw
can be left on scene, then so can you. If
Richie McCaw, if even Richie McCaw gets left on scene.