Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 3rd September 2026 - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the ZM Podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is Fletch, Fawn and Hayley's Big Pod.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Brought to you by Chemist Warehouse. The biggest brands at
the lowest prices. Good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Welcome to the show, Fletch, Fawn and Hayley. Happy Thursday.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Happy Thursday. Let's call it Friday. Wrap it up nice
and early.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hit us with a long weekend.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Round it up to a Friday. Let's do some Swiss
rounding here.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
The term six, Fawn, it turns out men avoid dieting
because it's seen as too feminine.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
But ladylike.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (00:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
A bit soft.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
A bit soft. Real men stack it on. Yeah, I've
got the top six blokey diets, you know, to really
bloke it up. Right.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Next, though, silly little pole.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Are you a grower or a shower?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
The ZN Podcast Network.

Speaker 7 (00:46):
Black fun and hailey, silly little pole, silly little pole.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
It is so silly, silly, silly, that silly little pole.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Silly Little Pole today. Lads, which are you? A grower
or a shower? This came up in a conversation. My
girlfriend and I were watching Reacher.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
And we discussed whether or not Alan Richardson walks like
that because he's hauling a massive hog around.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
How tall is he?

Speaker 8 (01:22):
6'5.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Massive man, isn't he? Big dude.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Huge dude. Or if it's just his quads and then
was just all talking about, like, if you were that big,
like 6'5, and built like that, you'd have certain expectations
when you lowered a man's trowel.

Speaker 8 (01:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
But it's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
And then it doesn't mean just because they're six foot
five doesn't mean they've got a whopper.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:41):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
But then, you know, you might get his trowel down
and you might be like, well, that's not much. But
then he might, you know, turn it on and we've
got something on our hands.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
How long did you and your girlfriend discuss this?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Ages.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Sounds like she might like Alan Richardson. She's a big
fan of Alan Richardson.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I haven't watched it still, even though he's a mountain man.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't think it's.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Your kind of TV show, to be honest. He's a
big Jesus man, eh?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
In real life, he's a big Jesus man.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
That's fine. That's your choice.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
But I don't know what we talk about.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
We gave the options.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Because then I googled what the percentage, the ratio of
growers versus showers.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Where would you categorize yourself?

Speaker 8 (02:25):
Grower.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Grower. I was categorized.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, you're right. That was what she said to me.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
She said, like, you, you're a grower, not a shower.
I was like, oh, I didn't know I was.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Some guys might be big, soft, but then it just
goes boing.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
It gets harder, but it doesn't get bigger.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
So a recent research showed that 24% of men are growers, 25%
are showers, and the remaining 51% falling in the middle.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Because a grower is defined as a penis that is
smaller when soft but grows more than 56% in length
when hard.

Speaker 9 (03:01):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Doubles, doubles. And then a shower is a penis that
is larger when soft and only grows a little bit
when hard, less than 36%.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Interesting. And the grey zone is you're neither. You're kind
of sat in the middle.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now, the girls, predominantly on our Instagram, I would say
the majority of our followers. Just there to find the answers.
Did have an option to see the results. I can't answer,
but I want to see the results. 80% of people
who saw the stories voted that. 18% said grower. 2%
said shower. Oh, okay. 2%.

Speaker 10 (03:34):
Showa.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Roro says, my partner is both a grower and a shower.
That thing's a monster. Jeez. So it looks like a monster,
and then it becomes Godzilla.

Speaker 10 (03:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Grower and shower.

Speaker 10 (03:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I don't know anything other than what I can see.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Roro's profile picture, she looks like a completely satisfied woman.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
What does a completely satisfied woman look like on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
She's like in the rim of a martini glass.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, I'd be satisfied.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah. Aisha said, I'd just like to say that I
don't personally have a penis, so I can't contribute to
today's poll, but thank you for giving me the option
to see the responses.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, that's lovely.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
You're welcome. Thank you. Yeah, welcome. Jake Smith says, sorry,
gave him his full, there's a full doxing. I had
to ask the ex as I wasn't sure. Ask the ex?
She said, show us straight away. It's not small, but
it doesn't grow. It just stiffens.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, right. Okay.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Asking the ex is a wild thing. Hey, listen, I
know we didn't.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
End things on a great note.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I would like to thank Jake for taking this poll
very seriously.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, not just making an assumption of his own member.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
But asking a verified source.

Speaker 10 (04:45):
An ex.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Caleb said ADHD blood flow goes straight to the brain.

Speaker 11 (04:51):
Ha, ha, ha.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
He ain't kidding, he's neither.

Speaker 11 (04:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
So it's all going elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Doesn't some medication interfere, doesn't it? It does. With that
kind of carry-on?

Speaker 10 (05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Really? Yeah, antidepressants, anti-meds. Joanna said, my husband's a grower,
and he's okay with that, but he definitely knows not
to stand next to the Fijians in the showers after rugby.
Excuse you, Joanna.

Speaker 10 (05:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And the Fijians pack it.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You don't want to have to be like, it's a grower,
it's a grower.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I'm just trying to get clean.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, you can't explain it in the showers.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And then if you try to show it, you've got
to get an erection.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Then you're playing with yourself in there.

Speaker 8 (05:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (05:31):
Look, look, look.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's getting big and it's like, no, it's too much.
Brian says, I'm not afraid to admit that I'm a grower.
The change is vast. Wow.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I go from a scared turtle to about average.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Nice, okay. Scared turtle. Poking his little head out, having
a look around. Yeah, having a little look, see, look, see. Well,
for today's little poll, we asked, lads, are you a
grower or a shower? And 80% of you are just
pervy women that don't want to know the answer.

Speaker 12 (05:55):
Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Practical Magic 2 is out, coming up. It's about to
be out, right? They're doing the media circuit at the moment,
all the interviews and whatnot around the world. Sandra Bullock,
Nicole Kidman, obviously front footing those.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Very excited.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
What a movie.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
And as a witchy little kid myself, I loved this movie.
So September 10th.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh, hell yeah, a week. Yeah, early screenings beginning September 9.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Okay. If you're lucky enough to score one of those.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's not a lie. It's a week today.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
A week today.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
So Nicole Kidman has revealed herself.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
She is a bit witchy.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
She was actually being interviewed on the interview circuit by
her niece, who obviously works.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
In the media. I didn't know that. Nepo Media? Yeah, Australia.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
And she was saying.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh, like, I never thought about if Nicole Kidman has siblings.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, she gives her only child, doesn't she? She does
give a huge only child, actually. Yeah, she does.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
No, well, she's got a niece, and she was saying,
that's my niece.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
So she's got one younger sibling, a younger sister named
Antonia Kidman. Is there anyone else having the name Kidman?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Do you reckon everyone's like, oh, my God, same as, like,
Nicole Kidman.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh, is it like Nicole?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
She's like, yeah, that's my sister.

Speaker 8 (07:08):
My sister.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
They're like, no.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Known for hosting lifestyle programs like From Hair to Maternity.

Speaker 7 (07:12):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I'm Antonia Kidman. Kidman. Yes, that Kidman. Yes, yes. That Kidman.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Well, Antonia's daughter was interviewing her and she revealed that
the Kidman women are a bit witchy. They always have
a little bit of woo-woo about them. And her niece
asked her, you know, what's your favourite kind of spells
to cast? And I used to cast spells, obviously, as
a teenager and a kid. When I put Wiccan as
my religion.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
The wee.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
And she said, I love love spells, but I do
this thing when I'm a little bit upset with someone,
her move is to write down their name on a
piece of paper and she puts it in the freezer.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
And she says it freezes them out of your life.
And she reveals she actually does this. Also messes up
your freezer.

Speaker 9 (08:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Because the paper would just stick to the ice. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
And then you've got to mess on your hands.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
And then you've got to chisel it out with a
butter knife.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah. And you're like, God, I wasn't that mad at Christopher.
And then you're mad again now because they've messed your
fridge up. Yeah, so you've got to write another note.

Speaker 9 (08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
So apparently... Nicole Kidman's mum had a running list of
names that was in an ice cube area of the freezer.
This is something they've done for generations and generations.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I like the idea because this is a problem a
lot of people harbour ill feeling and it eats them up.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
The hate keeps you going. This is a way of
letting go.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's similar and maybe safer.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Than the tradition of writing something down or whatever and
setting it ablaze.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Perhaps a safer option is to write it down in
the freezer. I don't really have.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Bad feelings about many people.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
But the next time, best believe. They're going in the freezer.
They're going in the freezer next to the mints.

Speaker 12 (09:01):
The Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
From the unmoderated comment section, this is the top six.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Apparently men don't do diets because they're feminine.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
How are they? A bit ladylike, are they, to restrict
your calories and eat leaves? Considered a manhood threat. Yeah, right.
I know lots of men that diet. You guys have
done it.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
My boyfriend's dieting at the moment. Everyone does a diet.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
A bit of a calorie count.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
My dad used to jump on the bloody Jenny Craig bandwagon.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Jenny Craig? Yeah, Craig used to.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
My dad is of the Craig family. He is Craig.
He puts Craig first, though.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
And he, yeah, used to do.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
The little freezer meals.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Jenny Craig Sproul.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's his full name. He just goes by Craig.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Jenny just didn't feel like, you know, Jenny Craig Sproul
ran a finance company. People didn't want to confuse. Yeah.
But yeah, he got on a diet.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
My brother's dieted.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
We're fluctuators, man. Yeah, we're big Smiths, mate. We're big Smiths.
up and down, we're up and down, we're up and down.
But anyway, apparently this is just.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Sorry, some of the gym people outside, they wouldn't have
taken off their shirts.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, someone had their shirt off outside. I saw that
six-pack rock straight in there. He's off again, though. Just
must have come for the shirt. Ciao. It's a marketing issue.

Speaker 11 (10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Of course, I run a small-town marketing company. I'll help
your small town sort of elevate itself. What's your marketing
business called? It's on my LinkedIn. Okay. Pop along. It's
Jenny Craig Marketing. Jenny Craig's Real Marketing. So I've got
the top six better, more masculine names for existing diets.
It's all a marketing problem. Number six on the list.

(10:37):
You're familiar with the Mediterranean diet.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Let's call it Operation Olive Branch.

Speaker 11 (10:41):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Tagline, tagline, fuel up like a Spartan.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, wow. Operation Olive Branch.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
That's mask, man. See, I wouldn't touch that. I'd be like,
that feels a bit mask for me.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, it's exactly the same as the Mediterranean diet. Number
five on the list of the top six more masculine
names for existing diets. The keto diet.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yes, very familiar. We call this the bacon protocol.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Less carbs, more chaos.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Oh, great.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, love. Wow, this is a branding issue.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's a branding issue. Number four on the list of
the top six more manly names for existing diets. You've
got intermittent fasting, right? Yes, yep. First bite loses. Whoa. Yes.
Do you want to be the weak link? Oh, this
is good from you, Vaughn.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Masculine, masculine, yeah. Tapping into that sort of masculine fragility.

Speaker 13 (11:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's really toxic when you think about it. It's exactly
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
No, I don't want to be the weakling.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I don't want to be a weakling. No.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I have to be a strong man.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Number three on the list of the top six existing
diets with more masculine names.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Paleo.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yep. We call it caveman mode.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, yeah, beautiful. Yeah, good. No bread, no mercy.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Whoa. No bread, no mercy.

Speaker 14 (11:56):
No bread, no mercy.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Taglines.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Brilliant.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Number two on the list of the top six diets,
existing diets, so we can make more masculine. Of course,
you've got your vegan and vegetarian, your low-meat stuff. But
rhino mode. Rhino mode. Tagline. Rhinos don't eat meat, and
they still flip land cruises.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Wow. Yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's a wordy tagline. The tagline's not as good, but
who knew diets needed taglines this whole time? They did.
That's what they needed.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Rhinos still flip cars. And stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
So should you.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah. And number one on the list of the top
six existing diets that need more masculine names, Yeratkins.

Speaker 8 (12:36):
Oh, yeah, famous.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Oh, classic.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeratkins, yellow card. We call it the carnivore claws. Wow.
What you're eating had a face. That's the tagline. Wow. Yeah,
quiet stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Someone just messaged in best top six ever, they say.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Really good.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I reckon that's a man.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
You need to whip these up into a book, man,
and make some money.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Get out of here.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Get it done. Rhino mode. That's today's top six.

Speaker 12 (13:05):
Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Just talking chicken noodle soups. It's the end of the
cold weather.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, everybody's sick. Now, I've got a little bit.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Of a girl math situation on my hands here.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Now, as part of my job, I receive the benefits
of a Koru Club membership. Oh, yeah, cheese and crackers
while I fly and some nice, you know, you like those.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Little falafel wraps. You get in the lounge, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You get in the lounge, have a whan if it's
the evening lover.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, well, it's good.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's good work gets the extra baggage as well when
we travel around. Yeah, we get the extra baggage.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
It's nice, right?

Speaker 4 (13:36):
It comes with a lovely perk. Every now and then,
see a politician in there.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh, hello.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Look at us.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Sports person. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Oh, it's lovely.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Comedians. Ahoy. Well, you saw Jason Momoa in there once.

Speaker 10 (13:46):
Didn't you?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
I was sat like an idiot at a table doing
work like a loser. And then some other person messaged
me and was like, I just saw you in the
Kauru Club.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Jason was there. News to me. Anyway, whatever.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
So I get a message yesterday because I'm flying tomorrow
and I was just checking my flight and everything. And
I get a message on the app saying, time to
renew your membership. And then I get a lovely email
from Joe upstairs saying, you know, you'll get an email,
time to renew your membership and here's the information. And
then I just realised, I'm actually, I've flown so much
this year with touring, I'm elite.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I'm an elite New Zealand elite.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
So do you get free koru if you're elite? Yeah,
you do. Yeah, well, you're an elite.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
So you get access to everything that the Koru Club
membership has.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
So you don't need to pay. Well, there's no point.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Because to lose that, I'd go down a step. I'd
still be able to get into the lounge. So I
just emailed Joe back and I said, I don't think
I need.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I actually don't need you, Joe.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I don't need that. I don't need you to spend,
which I just looked up.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I think it's $ 800 a year.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
$ 875.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Well, there might be. I think corporate has a cheaper
rate maybe. I think we get a little bit of
a cheaper rate. But that's a lot, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Corporate, here we go, $ 815.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
$ 815.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
And she said, oh, that's great, you know, and then
we won't have to renew it.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
And I just thought, hang on a second.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
$ 815 I've just saved this company.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
That should come back.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
To Fletch, Fawn and Hayley. How do we want to
spend it? This is a bit of a girl math situation.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I've got free money here. Not how it works.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I didn't have to say, yeah, we're getting clicks from
Carwin here.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I didn't have.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
To disclose that I have reached elite status.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, but they don't give.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
You the money.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
They pay it directly to them.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I think that they should and we should bring this
up in a meeting of sorts. I'm happy to lead it,
but I think we need to pitch. 9696, if you've
got ideas, $ 815. How we could utilise that as a show.
Because that's the girl math situation, which is we've got
free money here. Contractually, they were going to pay it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, they were.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm thinking we get miniature ponies in here because you
guys have had that before.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I was just saying the other day we haven't had
a miniature pony. Not in my time.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
How much are miniature ponies to bring in? Sorry, you're
suggesting we buy one. Okay.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
We have a show miniature pony. How much is a
miniature pony?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I've always thought that'd be nice, but there's a bit
of upkeep when you've got a horse. But you don't
have to upkeep it.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
It's an in-studio horse. Oh, it lives in the studio. $ 4, 000. Okay,
that's a little out of our range.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
So we're under budget. We could find a rehired one
that needs rehiring. Yeah, I was going to say, could
we get a bung one?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Get a rescue horse. Get a rescue horse. It's a
bung one. It's just a pony, and it grows up
to be a massive horse, and we're like, I thought
you were miniature. Like when Miley Cyrus bought that pig.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
She was like, I've got a teacup pig, and then
next thing you know, she's got a bloody monster on
her head.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Like a boar.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Okay, so miniature ponies out. What about we get, we
could paint in here. You know, I'm a bit of
a no grey wool person.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
We could do a paint in here. Yeah, a lot
of grey wool. Could we get a pottery wheel?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
We could get a pottery wheel. Okay, hang on.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
How much? And we could make pottery and then sell it. Dude,
we could sell pottery.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
We need a kiln. We need a kiln.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
NZM will want a cut of it because it's made
on company time. Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
How much is a pottery wheel?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
In New Zealand, we're looking about $ 150, 000 to $ 3, 500 depending
on the quality.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I mean, that's a massive difference.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Why don't you want a cheap pottery wheel?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't want a cheap one, no. If we're making pottery,
it's nice.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, I don't want slopping everywhere. Can the oven in
the kitchen get hot enough to kiln?

Speaker 10 (17:10):
No.

Speaker 15 (17:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That can't get hot enough to kiln.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, so then we'd have a wheel, but no.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah. That barely heats.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
We'd have to do air dry clay. Yeah. Can you
air dry it?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Can you air fry it?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Someone said a clay mug. A clay mug, probably.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, you could air fry your cups.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
No, my oven can get hotter than my air fryer.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Someone's just said that they've seen a miniature horse for
sale for 400 bucks. Now we're getting two horses because
we don't want it to get lonely.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Oh, no, horses do get lonely.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Overnight. Do they get lonely? Cows get lonely.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Cats don't.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Cats prefer a chef. Meow.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Jeez, that's just ingrained in there. Hang on. Okay, no.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
So kilns technically reach temperatures from 1,000 to 1,300 degrees.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
The air fryer only goes to 200 to 230. Okay,
I'm just.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Looking up miniature parts. We're back to the original idea.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Can I just pause the show?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yes, absolutely. Check out the dumper on that dude out there.
Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I don't know if you can just say that. I
wasn't going to, but it's eye-catching. Look at it.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
No, no, no, Hayley, you're looking. Brown long pants over here.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Good God. What a badonk.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
It's a proper badonk.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
It's a shelf.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
It's a proper badonk.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
You could rest a champagne glass on it.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
It's... It's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
You could, you could. Phenomenal. And he knows how.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
To cram that into a pants.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
He does. Wow. He's waving. Maybe we should spend $ 800
on pants that accentuate our batons.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
What?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
What a great idea. How much are pants? That's it.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
We could get eight pairs of pants.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
We could get eight pairs of pants. All right, we're
locking pants.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
The ZM Podcast Network.

Speaker 12 (18:45):

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Now, there is a documentary that has been released on
TVNZ One and on TVNZ Plus, and it's called What
Happened to Sex? It's being presented by a sex therapist
called Jo Robertson, and it's kind of looking at the
state of what we have access to in this day
and age. And the bit that caught my eye was

(19:08):
referencing smart or, you know, dirty books that we, like,
as a show, have talked about a lot.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
And we enjoy them. We read them and Carwin reviews
them and we had a book club for a while
and I've definitely read my fair share. But it just
shed an interesting light on who has access to these
books and I thought it would be great to get
our lovely friend Morgan Penn on.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Good morning, Morgs.

Speaker 16 (19:29):
Good morning, darling.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
How are you? Good.

Speaker 12 (19:31):
I'm good.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
I actually went to Parliament to watch this documentary get
revealed to the politicians.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Did you watch it with Chris Bishop?

Speaker 13 (19:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Really? It's weird. I don't know why I can't really
picture that.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
David Seymour book. I'm only talking about. Anyway, I'm glad
you watched it. Now, I wanted to talk to you
in particular about a clip that I saw yesterday that
was online that in the documentary was, Jo was talking
to a girl who said she was reading these books
from as young as 14 years old.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
And.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
When I think about the books that I've read and
some of the content in them, immediately I was like, oh, no,
teenagers should not be reading this. Now, obviously, they come
with warnings and they come with age recommendations, but we
can't really stop young people from reading these books, can we?

Speaker 16 (20:26):
No, that's right.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
And it's, you know, it's not really, the problem isn't
really that teenagers have like discovered sex in this form because.

Speaker 16 (20:34):
It's everywhere, right?

Speaker 7 (20:36):
But I think it's interesting because over 20s are loving
these books and are thinking it's kind of funny and.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Cute that This age group is.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Getting turned on by horny.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Fairies and mystical things.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
But what the issue is for these sort of, you know,
teenagers is that they're getting their sex education from like
a fictional billionaire with wings who doesn't understand consent.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (20:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
So this, and probably more the female teenagers reading the
books than the males.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So is this as big a problem for young females
as aggressive pornography in video form online is for young males?

Speaker 16 (21:15):
Well, it is because I guess it's both being normalized.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
So the young men that are watching the visual erotica,
they're having this like quite rough time. sex, you know,
shown and normalised. And for these young women, this is
what they're reading. And it's almost a little bit more
dangerous because they're actually inside the head of these, you know,
characters and it feels even more real.

Speaker 16 (21:39):
It's not sort of a, there's not a dissonance sort
of happening.

Speaker 7 (21:42):
But then, yeah, they're just getting together, these people that
are watching or reading things separately, and that is becoming
the norm.

Speaker 16 (21:49):
And so fantasy is, is not clear anymore.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
And so this is sort of like their early introduction.
And so I guess the fear that was being highlighted
is that when it comes time for them to actually
have a sex life of their own, there is a
bit of a warping of what is enthusiastic consent.

Speaker 16 (22:10):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 7 (22:11):
And it keeps getting sort of more rougher and harder
and explicit.

Speaker 16 (22:15):
That's what the real fear is.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
When it starts like this at that young age, It
just gets more extreme.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Now, this isn't really your job, I guess, with what
you do with your clients. But as someone who is
invested in the sexual wellbeing of all New Zealanders, what
is your advice.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I guess?

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Like, what would be your way forward or your safety net?
Because we can't, we're not going to stop them.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's a whole movement.

Speaker 16 (22:45):
No, no, exactly.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
We have to be smarter about sexual literacy starts with
sex education in the home, you know, opening up these
conversations around bodies and pleasure and what people have got
access to, what they're finding interesting. It's curiosity, like the
hard questions parents are so scared of asking, but just

(23:09):
opening conversations because if you're not asking your kids, they're
not going to be sharing most of the time.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (23:15):
So I think there is that piece.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
And then the sex education in schools, and I'm sorry,
but it is really letting down our.

Speaker 16 (23:22):
Rangatahi, our youth. It's just not substantial enough.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Do you think it's gone better since we were there?
With the wooden penis?

Speaker 4 (23:29):
The wooden penis or the condom on a banana. Telling
the women about getting pregnant, not the men, that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
Like, I want to say yes, and I feel like
there has been a section of time where it really has,
but they're reforming this again, and it's not looking good.
So while I was at that filming at Parliament, I
was talking to Sexual Wellbeing Aotearoa, which is a great
resource for young people to go and.

Speaker 16 (23:54):
Get checked out for their sexual health, and.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
They were just so disappointed by our.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
Sex education because people were just coming in with not
enough knowledge.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I feel like it's come down to communication again, isn't it, really?

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, as it always does. Well, thank you for your insight, Morgan.
I just thought it was a really interesting thing that
I hadn't clocked as someone who's read so many of
these books, but I'm a 36-year-old woman with a sexual past,
you know, and I've had good conversations.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Morgz, thank you very much. Now, everyone wants to know
what's happening with season four of Sex.Life.

Speaker 13 (24:27):
Oh, do they?

Speaker 11 (24:28):
Oh, they do.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
Well, I hope they've got their lube ready because something
is coming.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Brilliant.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Good tease.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Morgan, Ken, thank you so much. We love you very much. Goodbye, darling.

Speaker 12 (24:40):
Now, can we bring in our Swifty girlies, Carwen and Shannon?

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Because why have we not seen much at all from
Taylor and Travis's wedding?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I know.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Because she would have sued the hell out of you
to back.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
To hell and back. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (25:00):
I just think that like every morning I wake up
being like, is today the day? Because that's what happened
when she announced she was engaged. I was like on
my way to work and it was like Taylor Swift's
post it.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Everyone's just like, show us the dress. I reckon that's
literally what everyone's like, just show us the dress. I
don't know why we care, but I care so much.
I think we care more because it's being kept from us.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, it's actually good marketing. Do you think she ever
will show off any of her photos?

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Part of me.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Feels like she might tie it to an album release
or something.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, good.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
She's a businesswoman. She's a businessgirlie.

Speaker 14 (25:33):
An exclusive merch release. And there's just a shirt that
has her wedding photos on it.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
We have to buy it to see it.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Well, they've barely, I mean, they've taken a long break
because she did the huge tour and he's been busy
and everything.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
So they've taken a long break.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
And he has this podcast, New Heights, which is the
new season, season five just dropped. And it started off
with his brother being like, you're married and he flashes
the ring. And they talk a little bit about some
of the details of the wedding, including... Adam Sandler is
their officiant.

Speaker 9 (26:04):
I can't say thank you to everyone without to give
a special thank you to the Adam Sandler.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
He has been just the best person ever. You're right
on this planet for him to be up for getting
ordained in the state of New York.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
And marrying me and Taylor in the way he.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Did it in the very, you know, Sandman style, giving
us more than we could have ever imagined in that moment,
knowing that it was the biggest night of both of
our lives. It was absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
He was absolutely fantastic. And the other thing was the
ceremony was beautiful.

Speaker 12 (26:35):
Adam killed it.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Both you and Tay were incredible in your vows.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
We also wanted to make sure that everybody left there
having some fun.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, having fun, but weren't the vows, like, 15 minutes each?
Wasn't that something that was revealed, that their vows.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Were really long?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, I think they were, but, like, what do you expect?

Speaker 15 (26:52):
She's a songwriter, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Like, then three minutes. Yeah, and then what?

Speaker 15 (26:56):
He follows that up with, oh, I love you, thanks
for marrying me, babe, let's be rich.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Like, he'd have to match her energy. 15 minutes, I'm sorry,
to anyone inviting me to an upcoming wedding, don't you dare.
So there's a few things they revealed.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
I said, you know, it was amazing.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Obviously it was like locked down at Madison Square Garden.
Night they'll never forget. Everything was like magical. It was
the best night of their life, which, you know, a
lot of people, I feel like putting that pressure on
a wedding day would not do well for me.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
You're not expecting the best night of your life on
your wedding.

Speaker 15 (27:24):
No, but also, like, if it's at, like, Madison Square
Garden and, like, 50 million celebrities are there, it's going
to be the best night of your life. Yeah, we
also talked last week, right, that the bride enjoying the
day is, like.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Bottom of the list.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, but not when it's Taylor Swift.

Speaker 13 (27:37):
You know?

Speaker 10 (27:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (27:38):
She's also got about 10 people before her to make
sure she enjoys the day.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I think most brides.

Speaker 14 (27:43):
They'll have their maid of honour and maybe a wedding
coordinator on the day, but you're still very much on
the logistic side of things.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, she wouldn't have been dealing with anything.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
No, she's just enjoying it.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
So did you know they didn't have a sit down
formal dinner? They just had like snacks and went straight
from the long ceremony into partying.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, they didn't do a formal thing. They skipped all that.
They just said straight to partying after dinner. you know,
30 minutes of I love you.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Probably all the guests are on our Zen pic.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
No one needs it. No one needs it.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
And they said that no devices in there changed the
whole night. Everyone felt like very present and it was really,
it was great. But like, that's it. And I love
the final thing was when they got asked why Madison
Square Garden, he replied, we wanted to do it somewhere
where it could be very intimate. I was like, Madison
Square Garden, one of the biggest.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Not intimate.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Not intimate, but they said it was like they were
able to facilitate something super private.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
But that's their version of intimate because they were able
to shut the world out.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Shut the world out and put it inside this like
lock and key.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
And it worked because look at us, we haven't even
seen the dress. This is like the first bit of
information we're hearing and it was months ago.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
And no guests have really said anything. There's been the
odd little tiny thing, right? But nothing major.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Nothing major. They nailed it.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
The Fletchborn and Hayley Big Pod.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Let's talk about drinking. Some stats have been released and
it's like pretty crazy. I feel like it's part of our,
and not a welcome part, and not something we're proud of,
but it is a bit of a cultural identity that
New Zealanders, we're drinkers. Well, it's thanks to our British ancestors,
isn't it?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, oh God, they loved a quaff, didn't they?

Speaker 9 (29:22):
Bloody hell, yes.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
And we've been known, we watch the rugby and we
get on it, you know, or it's part of our
social culture as well.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
So we might have peaked at about 2011, they reckon.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, I had a couple of rough nights with 2011. Yeah,
our drinking.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
I contributed heavily. That was my last year of uni.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
The Stats NZ data says that per capita alcohol consumption
has fallen to its lowest point since records began and
it's down a third since 2011. That is huge. When
did records begin? When did they start going, we might
need to monitor this?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
When were they like, I think we're drinking a bit much.
This might be a problem.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
It doesn't say in this.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So market share wise, beer has kept its dominant market
share about 59.7% of all alcohol consumed. Do you know
what I blame? That Ultra, that Spades Ultra. Everybody's drinking
that Spades Ultra.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, the light.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Every blow carb.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, because the lads don't want to get fat.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
They don't want the beer gut that all of our
daddies had.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
They want to be.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Able to pound 15 beers.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
And not get the carbs.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'm not a huge beer drinker, but when I have
had one of those, I didn't like it. Oh, no,
I'm not a fan either. Give me a Guinness any
day of the week. It tastes like piss water. Give
me the carbs.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I've never had piss water. I haven't had piss water either.
I had piss water when I did that beer grills special. Oh, yeah,
of course. He's like, we're five minutes in. He's like, drink, drink.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
I'm not even thirsty. I just drank so much water.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
He's obsessed with it. Do you know?

Speaker 4 (30:50):
So 5.98, let's run that up to six, six liters
of pure alcohol a year per capita intake is, is
that per person?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, per capita.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Is that per person? Per head of population. So, yeah,
six litres of pure alcohol.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Pure.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
So not like six litres of beer.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Pure of the alcohol amount would be six litres.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
So if you're drinking a 5% beer, you're drinking 20
times 6, 120 litres of beer.

Speaker 13 (31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
So, like, it's wild.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
And we've noticed this as well. Like, growing up as
a teenager... Because I grew up as a teenager. Yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Growing up, when I was a teenager.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Everyone was drinking. Like before 18, we were going to
parties and drinking. And then through uni days, every party
was drinking. And that's like a millennial thing for sure
in the older generations.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
And then Gen Z were like, not so much. We
want to hang out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Nah, it muddies my head. And I'm like, yeah, that's
the best bit. And they're like, no, no, I want
to be clear.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Also, though, you go out now, it's so expensive.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
So expensive.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
That's right. One beer.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
One of the guys said.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
20 bucks. So they asked a Brewers Associate Executive, Dylan Flood. Yeah,
thank you, Dylan. And he said, tighter household budgets, rising
excise tax, production costs outpacing inflation, and younger drinkers going
for alcohol-free alternatives. It can only be good.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
It can only be good.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I think the same thing happened in England this year,
and they gave a bit of relief. to the tax
in the beer to get more people to the pub.
Because the pubs were like, we're shutting down. We're dying here.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like, we're dying.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
And that pub culture, especially in the UK, is huge.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, you rip open a packet of crisps.

Speaker 13 (32:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
And you lay it flat.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
A peg.

Speaker 9 (32:33):
A peg.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
A packet of crisps. A packet is a packet. So, yeah,
and they pull it open at the sides and everyone
does that and they eat the crisps.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, the crisps out of beer. I mean, it's only
good you have to listen to one podcast about cancer
or or Alzheimer's, or anything. I don't listen to that shit.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't do it on a podcast. It made me laugh.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
The one thing they say is drink less, so it's good.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
The ZM Podcast Network.

Speaker 12 (32:56):
Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn, and Hayley.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Now, we want to ask right now, 0800DARS. M, you can
text her as well, 9696. When did you get some
terrible advice, whether it was from a friend, someone you trusted?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
An old white guy who knows better than everybody.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Or what about, like, an expert?

Speaker 8 (33:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Or, yes, someone who is an expert quotes. Because the
author of the best-selling self-help book, in fact, Vaughan, could
you find some kind of stat about how many copies
this has sold? I remember reading this like 10 years ago.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
This was on my dad's bookshelf at his office.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
The author of the best-selling self-help book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I can see the cover.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's purple and gold. Robert Kiyosaki says that he has
$ 1. 2 billion in debt.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
That was sort of.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's a B.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's a B. Because I can do an M. Yes.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I can do an M on that. I'm in an
M in debt.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'll go in an M, but I won't go in
a B.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'm not touching a B. He is a personal finance
self-help guru. He's claimed that he's, yeah, New Zealand, $ 2
billion in debt. He's 79 years old. He's amassed the
debt through real estate investment, which was the whole rich dad,
poor dad. dad thing right was getting into property and
then you leverage that debt to buy more and of
course that all works on the property market only goes

(34:14):
up as it has in new zealand for the last
forever but all it takes is a stall as we're
experiencing now becomes a b yeah wow so more than
44 million copies have sold since 1997's initial publication Um,
it has had a 20th and 25th anniversary edition printed. Yeah. Um,

(34:34):
he was, it stayed on the New York bestseller list
for over six years. Yeah. It was ranked sixth on
the business week's list of bestselling, um, paperback business books
in 2007. He went on Oprah. He was in Oprah's
book club and that was printed as a major driver
of the book sales. Well, he has also said in
a podcast that the, uh, he's argued that the massive

(34:54):
debt is part of a wider fight, uh, a wider
wealthy strategy, and people should learn how to use debt
to their advantage.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
That's just playing with fire. Yeah, all good when it
turns out for you, bro, and you're working with big numbers,
but for.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
The general public, I don't think we say play with
debt like it's a game because then the game is bankrupt.

Speaker 13 (35:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
I don't know. He's gone into it, but yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
So everyone who was living by his advice, maybe that
was bad advice.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Well, I mean, it's good when the markets are good, right? Yeah, obviously.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
But, yeah. Not great now.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Someone messaged, after a really bad breakup, my best friend
gave me advice to get over someone, get under another.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Terrible advice. Terrible?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Was that terrible advice?

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, she said I did and it made me feel terrible. No,
you must have just got under the wrong person. Try
a Brazilian. Getting on top.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, try getting on top.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Or even getting on top, getting behind. Yep, sideways even.
Get under a couple at the same time. Maybe in
the shower.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Maybe one outside. Woman and a man.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Sure, sure.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Well, whatever the advice was, whether it was financial, life advice,
maybe you were like, that sounds like a great idea.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
You tried it and it didn't work out for you.
This is what we want to know.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
There's already some cracker terrible advice coming in on the
text machine.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Did you see that someone said I worked at a
venue that held an event for Robert, the author.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
And he had so many books to sell, but he
ended up not selling that many at the event at all.
And he couldn't even pay for the venue hire after
all of that.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Oh, goodness.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Left with a massive bill in all of these books.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Apparently his book, in that summary I found, it was
also just like a real $ 15 cheap book. The idea
was you'd pay to then go to a seminar to
learn more.

Speaker 11 (36:38):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
So it was like a very expensive pamphlet.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Wow, we couldn't pay for the venue.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Well, 0800-DARLES.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
He missed our number. Text through 9696.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Who gave you just terrible advice?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Some messages in. So many.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
That's so good. A workmate once told me if I
wanted to lose weight, I should take speed.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
It really killed their appetite. Kept them going.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
The 80s? 70s?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Wasn't that the thing?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
All the housewives at home?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
They didn't know they were taking speedo. And then in
the mid-2000s, they were all taking BZP, which was sort
of a synthetic speed alternative. That wasn't super legal for
a while.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Until it wasn't. Yeah, all those synthetic.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
And someone on the radio in 10 years will be
talking this way probably about peptides too. I'll tell you
what it was like. Yesterday we were all on the
peptides and now we've all got third arms and no eyes.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Jordan, what was the terrible advice that you were given?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
I used to teach CPR for St.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
John's.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
I was in uniform and all. And I was teaching
a session in a library and a man said, We
locked eyes through the window. He walked in off the street.
He walked to the front of the class. He started
addressing me and he said, when someone isn't breathing, you
give them one really hard punch in the chest. And
then he slammed his fist on my mannequin. We kind
of stared at each other really awkwardly for a minute.

(37:56):
And then he just turned around and walked out.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
You have to tell the class that's not a thing.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, you'll break the ribcage.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
We don't do that.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
No, we don't do that. Absolutely not. I love that
you're giving a lesson in uniform. He's like, mate, one
swift punch.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
To the chest.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Mansplaining to a man.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Is next level mansplaining.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
That's man.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Man on mansplaining.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jordan, thank you.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Some messages.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I've had some terrible advice from doctors on ways to
try to lose weight before. Oh, okay, says Emily. Like,
male doctors, really no idea about how the female body
works when it comes to losing weight.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I was seeing Dr. Shawnee recently, our lovely doctor friend.
He was like, I get it. Women just have it
so rough.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
I was like, welcome, my friend. Also, this is a
common one.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I get this.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
My husband likes to say when I'm having anxiety, have
you tried not worrying about it?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Great advice.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yes, I've given that a go. Just share all the advice.
Take a breath and relax.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Terrible. Okay, keep your texts coming in 9696. The worst
advice you've ever received. Yeah, God, there's some shockers. People
are being told after the weight loss, taking speed for
weight loss, someone's like, yeah, I've been told that multiple times.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Someone said, just take drugs that kill the appetite. I mean,
you've got your GLPs now, let alone what that does
to your brain.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Some other messages in here. I like to help my
loved one to live by the famous words of all ADHDers,
chaos now, consequences later.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
And it's terrible ADHDers. as the words are coming out
of my mouth, I'm like, that's not going to work
for them.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
And it never does.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
That gives big dark passenger like, let's just do it
and see. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
See what happens, that little voice telling you to do it.
I'm trying for a baby after a couple of unfortunate
miscarriages and got this advice from multiple people. Just don't
think about it too much and it'll happen eventually.

Speaker 15 (39:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I don't think people who are going through that necessarily
want your advice. They probably want your comfort.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
We've had a follow-up to a story that was great.
I can't remember what it was when we were talking
about lemon cars.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Do you remember that? We were like, did you have
a lemon in the car?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, you purchased a lemon.

Speaker 11 (40:04):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
The bad advice was from my mate, buy that car
from West Auckland and drive it home to Timaru.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
And now remember, that.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Thing fell apart on the Southern Motorway leaving Auckland.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Somebody else, a few more on the relationship front.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Somebody else said, I told my friend not to rush
into a rebound because it never works out well. And
my friend came back to me and said that. It
was terrible advice because I've just had the best rebound ever.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Not sure if this is radio appropriate, someone said.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
When I was doing my NCEA year 13 exam, she said,
did you know if you snort your Ritalin rather than
swallowing it, it doubles the effect and you'll be really
focused for your exam. Turns out that was shit advice.
I had a heart palpitations the whole time. I felt
so anxious and I failed the exam.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Don't give unsolicited advice.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Medical advice.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
My ex advised me that the girls at his gym
were just friends, and he advised me to just calm down.
And he said that about his female work colleagues as well.
He goes, no, that starts with the X. And it
was bad advice.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
During my childhood, I had severe asthma, multiple asthma attacks.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Oh, my God, my best friend had asthma. I used
to have attacks, and you'd go on there, and you'd
rush into the thing. Were you really jealous of the
people that had asthma inhalers? I used to tell my dad.
We used to have it, too.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Did you know I used to have it, too?

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I used to. You always have it, too.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
I remember saying to my dad, dad, I think I
have asthma because I wanted, like when I said I
think I need glasses and then faked the eye test
and the doctor was like, oh. And I said to
my dad, I think that I have asthma. And he
was like, well, let me listen.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
And he put his head on my chest and I
was like.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
And I remember like putting on this terrible performance when
I was like nine years old or something.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Dad was like, oh yeah, that does sound bad. He
was laughing.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
He knew. He knew what he was dealing with.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Just because you wanted the attention of an inhaler. I did.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Hang on, I haven't finished that message to my own story.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I had severe asthma. I used to have all these.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
One doctor told my mum to see if I was
faking it when I was literally turning blue. Dropped me
off the floor to startle me back into breathing.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Terrible advice.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Don't do that. My fake boob grandma. I mean, that
sounds like a phone number in itself.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah. I owe $ 800 to this grandma. I have fake tits.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
What size did she go? They are reaching that age where,
you know, she got them in the 80s.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
She'd totally be a grandma by now. Yeah. She told
me to stop using my asthma inhaler because it was
making me fat. I was 12.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
12?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I was crying after a breakup and my flatmate said,
at least you'll lose your appetite.

Speaker 10 (42:35):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 14 (42:35):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
These are all terrible. Also, follow up text from fake
boob grandma.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Faked it.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Smokes like a train. Lives in the GC. She'll have
a tan on, eh?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Can we get a picture? Can we get a photo
of grandma?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I'd love to see a photo of grandma. I've got
the photo in my head.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
GC granny.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
GC granny. I reckon grandma owns an annual pass at
Seawood and she loves swimming with the dolphins regardless of
what you think. Oh God, they love it.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
They love it.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
They love me.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
They always come up Put my ciggy in there, blowhole.

Speaker 15 (42:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Pull all my smoke out of there, blowhole.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I told my boss that I felt I was struggling
with the workload. It was a bit of a, you know,
I think I've got too much on my plate. He said,
you could try coming in earlier. Have a Red Bull.
Come in early and have a Red Bull. Crank a
Red Bull and come in earlier.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Jake's brother told him recently, if you're tired while driving,
drive faster.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
It keeps you awake.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
That's terrible advice. Terrible advice. I told the dentist I
was terrified of needles. He said the best way to
counter that is not look at it.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
In the 80s, the manager at the post office told
me not to join the super scheme because I was
a woman and my husband.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Will do it. Oh, that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
This one's a long one. I'm scared to read it.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Just a little pre-read there, just to check. Yeah, I
once told a PT I'd hurt my back. He said
pain is a weakness leaving the body.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Added more weight to the bar. Turned out I had
really badly hurt my back.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
The ZN Podcast Network.

Speaker 12 (43:56):
Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Now Falco is here as our straight, but our gay
just went through a tunnel and has dropped off.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
We've lost our gay Falco. Sorry?

Speaker 4 (44:08):
We lost our gay caller. Our gay's dropped off.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Oh, that's unfortunate. So if you are now listening and
you are a gay, a homosexual man. A homosexual man.
And you would like a lesbian woman because we are,
you know.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
We can go full lesbian. Yeah, that's true. I'm recognised.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Full lesbian.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah, full. Now, the reason we do this is because
the gays have asked for a rematch for our quiz.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, gays do straight.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Because apparently doing better academically, according to a study.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
As our nominated straight, do you think that the gays
are smarter than you?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Maybe.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
That's what we're going to put to the test, but
we've lost our gay.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well, the gays must all be asleep because we're only
getting straight people calling.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oh, they're in the gym, I reckon.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, highly likely. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Well, we might come back to you, Falco. Maybe we'll just,
we'll pause. But, I mean, you win by default.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
No, I don't think that's fair.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I don't think that's fair. Yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Have we, I believe, yes.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Okay, hang on.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
We've found a gay. We've found a gay.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Stand by, Falco.

Speaker 13 (45:07):
Shiloh.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Good morning, Shiloh.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Can I say, Falco and Shiloh, great names. What a
bunch of great names.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (45:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Now, can we just double check that you are a
lesbian and not a bisexual?

Speaker 8 (45:18):
No.

Speaker 10 (45:19):
I am a lesbian.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Is that proof enough, Hayley?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'll take it. I can feel it energetically.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Okay, you can. She's more interested in talking to me
than you.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I can feel it. No, she's more interested in talking
to me, weirdly, but I am a pillar of the
lesbian community.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
You are.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Aren't I, Shiloh?

Speaker 16 (45:35):
You are, indeed.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Something like that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Okay, so this is basically a... What would you say?
Just a.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
General knowledge quiz.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
General knowledge quiz. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (45:45):
All right.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
You're going to yell as your buzzer, Gay, Shiloh, and
Falco for you, straight.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
First answer gets the point.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Question one. How many countries share a border with Brazil?

Speaker 8 (45:59):
Four.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
Gay.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Shiloh.

Speaker 8 (46:03):
We're going to go three.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Oh. Do you know the answer to these questions, Paul? Yeah,
I've got the answer here.

Speaker 11 (46:09):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
And that is not correct.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Oh, Falcon, you want to take a stab for the straights?

Speaker 10 (46:15):
Sure, five.

Speaker 8 (46:16):
No. Okay.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Ten countries. She brought it with Brazil. That's a giant country,
isn't it? She's a big one. She's a big one.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Next question. Which ancient wonder of the world is the
only one still standing?

Speaker 8 (46:28):
Straight.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yeah, what do you reckon, straighty?

Speaker 13 (46:32):
The pyramid.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, bingo. Yeah, look at that. One for the straights.
One for the straights.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
God, the straights are winning again. What is the chemical
symbol for gold?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Gay.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
What do you reckon, Shiloh?

Speaker 8 (46:44):
Is it A-O?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Oh, painfully close. No. Oh, no.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Straight? A-G?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Oh, that's wrong. A-U for gold.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I was going to say G-O for gold.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I mean, it was right there, isn't it? Yeah, that's
right there. That's a loss for one of the teams.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
You'd think so.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
God, the periodic table, eh? They just really, like, cocked
it up.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Just make it more obvious.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, the Latins, eh? Yeah. We let them run wild.
Latinos run wild. The guys in the Straits, we can
all agree, Latinos can run wild. But the Latin. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Let's have a present.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
What gas do plants absorb from the atmosphere for photosynthesis? Gay. Straight. Yeah,
what do you reckon, Gay?

Speaker 8 (47:26):
Is it carbon?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Carbon.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
Dioxide.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, there she is. There you see it. The gays
are on the board. The gays are on the board.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
One apiece.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Tiebreaker. Tiebreaker.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Tiebreaker. What is the name of the wizarding school in
Harry Potter?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Gay. Yeah, what do you reckon, Gay? Hogwarts.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
The gays win finally.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
She's like, keep your hog away from me, but the
answer's hog war. Yes.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Thank you, Shiloh. So that's one apiece now. One game
to the straights, one game to the gays.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
So do you think we need one more game in
the future and then we've got a champion?

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Our friend Matt has volunteered for our next round. And Matt,
one of the gayest names possible.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Actually, somebody wants to know what kind of car you drive, Shiloh.

Speaker 11 (48:12):
I actually drive a Subaru.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Bingo, she's gay. There you go, 858.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
I saw this posted by Britannica.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
This is the people, you know, responsible for the encyclopedia
of years gone by.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Oh, yeah, that's how we used to do school projects before.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
OG Google.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah, the OG Google. Just finding the word.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
What was that? CD-ROM. Encarta.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, CD-ROM.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
They say, trigger warning, this post contains information about the
passage of time. Oh, God. Here we go.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Because we have now. You dwell on time more than
any of my other friends, I reckon.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
I think about it a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
You grapple with it a lot. I grapple with time.
It's a weird thing and it just passes and it
keeps passing and sometimes it feels like it's going real
fast and sometimes it goes real slow and then sometimes
a bunch of slow actually feels like one big fast.
Every morning, like.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Before we start the show, Vaughn watches videos of his
daughters as babies. And you see him going, time.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Time. Time is passing. You have some kind of time
machine memories thing every day or do you just look
at it? I go into my album and I search.
It's like self-flagellation.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, but you do this.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And I search that date and then I like send
them pictures from that date from years gone by and
they're like, remember this?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
And they're like, no, I was a baby.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
No, we were babies.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
They did remember one the other day.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
August could remember being inside the chateau. I was going
to say the womb. At National Park.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
You wouldn't forget that. It's scary as all hell.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
It's scary as hell. That place is like a Stephen
King movie.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
And they're always like, oh, we should renovate it. It's dilapidated.
I'm a big fan of putting some money behind that.
Me too.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I reckon we set it on fire.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
It's scary.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I reckon it's giving big.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Get Patsy Sproul in there.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I reckon we need a Novotel, a brand new Novotel
or something. No, for a start, shut up.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Or Ridges. Get a Ridges in there or something. Actually, yeah.
Or a Bella Vista. Get a Fletcher Construction, bowl that
thing down.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Oh, guys.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Put a Ryman in there.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Put a Ryman in there.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Oh, guys, please.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
A Ryman up the bonger. Love it.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Well, we have officially entered the late 2020s.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah. Okay. So the early 2020s, this is dividing the
2020s into three. January 1st to April 30th, 2023. January 1st,
2020 to April 30th, 2023. That was the early 20s.

Speaker 14 (50:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Now, August 31st was the end of the mid-20s. So
we have now, as we're entering September 2026, entering the
late 2020s. Now, I shared this on my Instagram, the
abuse I received. Yes.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
That's what I saw in a screenshot. I was like,
we must discuss.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
The abuse. So I thought I could do some other stuff.
For the time right now.

Speaker 16 (50:53):
No.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Well, I've got one because it's 2026 and you're saying
it's the late 20s.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
And Hayley's 36.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Oh, shit.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
So she's late 30s. Yes.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I'm turning 37 in a month. So you're late 30s.
I'm in my late 30s. Yeah, yeah. I'm in my
late 30s. Yeah, yeah. So hang on, I've got one.
So you being 10 years older than me. Fletch. Yes,
I'm also in your late 40s.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I'm late 40s.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
We're as far from the year 2000 now as 1974 was.
Which is the olden days. So if you put a
pin in the year 2000 and a bit of string
out to us and then swing it back around the timeline,
you'd hit 1974, the year that Abba's Woodaloo came out.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Great song. He hates ABBA. He's hung up on that.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
That 70s show premiered in 1998 and was set in 1976.
If they were to do that 70s show today, it
would be set in the year 2004. That 2000s show.
It would be that 2000s show. Wow. Great year.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Evanescence would be there.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It would be perfect.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
And we were on the radio.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Shut up.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Oh, shut up.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Oh, shut up.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
We were like 14, though, so.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
How close are we to the world wars? And the original, oh,
I could do that. And the original, I know the
other day my mate Johnny, who every now and then
struggles with a little bit of time, you know, dysmorphia
as well. Yeah, time dysmorphia. He said, we're now further
away from our dates of birth and our dates of
birth were from the end of the World War II.
I was like, I don't like hearing that. Back to

(52:33):
the Future, Marty McFly went back 30 years and the
original Back to the Future, he went from 1985 to 1955.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
If you did that.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Right now, you'd be in 1996.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I was just thinking about my parents.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
I'm 36. My dad had a 10-year-old and a 7-year-old.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
You know, and I'm like, not doing that. Yeah, you've
got margaritas. I've got margaritas years old and a lovely 10-
and 7-year-old bottle of wine.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah. Also, if Days Then Confused, the 1993 film that
was set in 1976, was done today, it would be
set in 2009.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
But that was dope. No, but I am 2009. Like
I'm the same person.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
Yuck.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Okay, stop this. Stop this. Yeah, I think we start
and seize the day, drink it while it's fizzy.

Speaker 12 (53:24):

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Fact of the.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Day, day, day, day, day.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
It's electricity and animals today for fact of the day.
I'm going to look at.

Speaker 8 (53:49):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
My.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
God!

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Today's fact of the day is brought to you by St.
Pierre's Sushi. I literally had someone message me on Instagram
and be like, this is your reminder, like five minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
She literally got on the thing before and was like, St.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Pierre's. Somebody else messaged me on Instagram saying, it's wild,
you're literally saying fact of the day, and you're promoting
sushi of the day, and it doesn't automatically pop into
your head.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Well, Georgia reminded you at 7.30, and I said to her,
that's too early.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
That was way too early.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
But then someone reminded me, there's got to be a
Goldilocks zone of when's the perfect time.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
To remind you.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Today is sushi of the day.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
I'm going to have to do it. Nope.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
No, they've paid for me to do it. They've paid
top dollar. Same here as they've paid so much money
because they're like, we want him to say it.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Okay, well, you better say it.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, then say it. Let me get my reading specs on. Fact,
today's sushi of the day is eight pieces of California
roll for $ 8.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
40.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Fantastic. That is $ 1. 05 per piece of sushi.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Thank you, Carl, and I do cost more. It actually
paid less for you.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Does Fletch cost more?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
You're the discounted one. We've got different rates. Yeah, there
is a disparity there.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Fletch is the top because he does the most professional version.
I'm the next one because I'm so likable and approachable,
and you're last because of this.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
You are the cheapest. It's a significant drop.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
It's keeping the price of sushi down, so you can
see why. You can see why.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
They're focused on the sushi, the salmon, the chicken.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah. Today, it's about electricity in animals. So you've got
the electric eel. That's the top of what we'll call
the electrical hierarchy of the animal kingdom. So the record
for the most power produced by an electric eel, a
species discovered in 2019, delivers up to 860 volts per second.

(55:33):
Is that enough to kill you or stun you?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
It's a stunning year.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
So there are three separate electric eel species, not just
one electric eel. Also, when I was a kid, I
thought electric eels, much like quicksand, were going to be
much more of an everyday problem. Yeah, true. Like, you know,
you go in.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Water, there's going to be an electric eel. At any moment.
Also whirlpools. I expected whirlpools to be a bit more
of a problem.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Because they've been sucked into any. Okay, so a standard
law enforcement taser generates a peak open circuit voltage of
50,000 volts.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Yeah, but it's the amps that kill you. Isn't that
the saying?

Speaker 9 (56:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Don't they say the volts are shocking, but the amps
will kill you?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I don't know. I've only been electrocuted once, and I've
never felt more alive.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
So you, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Me too.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I was like, whoa. Even a little shock from the
electric fence if I'm a little bit, and I touch
it and it's like, maybe I'm alive.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
It was just, it was during renovation and there was
an exposed thing, you know, and I just in the
dark put my hand and just.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
So there's also an electric catfish.

Speaker 8 (56:35):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
There's an electric catfish.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Catfish are ugly, eh? That's why they're called catfish. I
reckon cats are like, can you rename those? Because we're
kind of everybody's favourite. And those fish are big, nasty,
gross catfish. They can go from 350 to 400 volts.
There's a torpedo, there's a ray, like of the stingray
ray umbrella family. There's a torpedo ray. It can do

(56:59):
200 volts. So that's sort of like almost enough to
get the blender going, isn't it? I guess so. To
blend with it.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, with that.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
There's a stargazer fish. They took a long time for
people to work out how it was stunning. It's prey,
but it turns out it comes up from the sand
and hits them with a quick vault, but they haven't
been able to measure it, but it's enough to knock
out a little guy. How do they get the electricity
in them? So this is what I was going to ask.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Are they tranching overnight?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
They plug it in. It's... USB?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Yeah, you know the ones where you put.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Your phone on top of it? Yeah. Sort of a
wireless docking. Wireless charger. And they sit on the charger overnight.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
On the rocks.

Speaker 14 (57:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
But genuinely, is this a power we could develop through evolution?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah. Do you have an answer for this? Why are
you telling us this and you don't know?

Speaker 4 (57:47):
How can I become electric? I've been told I've got
an electric personality and I'd.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Be great if I could just zap people. I mean,
who knows what's in store for us? On the evolutionary ladder. Yeah,
but we'll miss out. We'll be gone.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Wipe ourselves out.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
And then all the other future people are going to
have cool electric powers and stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
We're just going to be hunched over looking at our
phones with padded tennis thumbs.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
You know, like it's not going to be great for us.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
We're going to be like snail spines. Yeah. By the way,
every time I, just when you said that we're going
to be curved over, I was like posture. Posture. I
don't want to be the curved over freak that they
always use CGI to like render what we'll look like
in a few hundred years if we carry on our
technologically based ways. And the elephant nose fish finally is very,
it's weekly electric. It uses it more for guidance. Only weekly.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
What day of the week?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
St.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Pierre's, sushi, California roll, eight pieces.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
For $ 8.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
40. So you've thumbed that in. I've thumbed that in again.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah. Do you want to hear the grim fact? Because
when I was searching about electricity and animals, okay, so
electrolytes are modified muscle cells that act like microscopic batteries.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I still am not clear at understanding that.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Each cell pumps sodium potassium ions across its membrane, keeping
the inside negative and the outside positive. Oh, so it
has to go somewhere. And then they can direct it.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
And then they stack the cells up so the voltages
add together, creating massive combined power.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Someone said we do generate electricity. Our brain sends electrical
currents enough to power up a light bulb. I don't know,
but Chantal, how do I.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Get it out the fingertips. Or can I put a
bulb in my mouth and light it up? Like that.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
No, you've got a dark fact you were saying. It
was a dark, because I was Googling like animals and
electricity and I came across in 1903 Thomas Edison's company
shot footage of a circus elephant named Topsy being killed
by electrocution at Coney Island's Luna Park. What? It was like,
they're like, this is how powerful we can make batteries.
We're going to electrocute this.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
We're going to kill this elephant.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Oh my God. I feel like even back then. That
would not have been. Not cool, bro.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Not cool, bro.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Not cool, bro.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Not cool.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I reckon a lot of people would have been like, yeah,
but also thanks for all the lights in my room. Yeah,
I mean, I love LEDs. I love electricity.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
I love LED fans more than I love LEDs. This
is very true.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
So today's fact of the day is actually it turns
out all underwater creatures can produce electricity. It's not just
the electric eel. Fact of the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Day, day, day, day, day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I did it. I like to think myself a capable woman.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I can live, you know, and get by.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
But I want to ask the question now, what did
you have to learn post-breakup? I went through a breakup
last year and you kind of, you know, you are
half of a household now and I've had to learn
a number of things.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
And yesterday there were two things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
One was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
The toilet seat was doing that thing. I was swinging
on the thing. You know, it just kind of slipped. Oh, God, Dan,
that's a design flaw, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Loose as all hell.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
And I was sort of pulling it in and trying
to work out how to– where do I– it's got
these caps on it. Where do I bloody know?

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
I asked you at GPT, I was like, how do
you remove these– bloody toilet seats to fix them and
it and it gave me a version of so it
wasn't right and so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I just sort of figured it out and i got
a bloody.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Flathead screwdriver and i popped this and moved that and
then i revealed revealed this and then i needed to
go and get the phillips head and tighten the thing
and i put it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Back and i was like well what can you do
and i was like this toilet's been in here for
years but it was never my i never you never
had to i never did it do it yeah right
so then you're like cool taught myself how to replace a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
A toilet seat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
And yesterday I've been working in my garage demoing it.
I'm doing it all on my own.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Like if something's too big, I just get the reciprocating
saw and cut in half and chuck this. But I
worked out, I had to sort of figure out how
I was going to get a screwdriver into a bit
that wasn't fitting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah. And I was just like looking around, fishing around.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Then I found a little extender for the thing and
put the thing in the thing and then I get
it in the thing and I undo the thing.

Speaker 10 (01:02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
And I'm feeling, like, empowered.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
And I want to know, like, even as embarrassing as
it is, what did you have to learn after your breakup?
And maybe that person just took care of that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Well, yeah, because you're in a relationship for so long,
they just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah, and you don't know that's been done.

Speaker 13 (01:02:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
And then you suddenly realise, well, that's not getting done.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
And I don't even know how to do that. It
might be the stereotypical roles, like the lawns, that you've
never done. Yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Or you're like, what gas do I put in this lawnmower?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
This one, and you do it, and it smokes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
And you go, no. Not that one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Now I've got to replace a part. Or the lawnmower. Yeah,
or the whole lawnmower, potentially. We shall see. Yeah, okay. 0800DARLSATM.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Give us a call now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Text through 9696. Already getting some in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yep. And we don't need to be embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
What did you have to learn or teach yourself after
the breakup? I'm teaching myself all sorts of handy skills.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I've changed the toilet. Demolition.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Yeah, fixed the toilet seat yesterday. Nicole, what did you
have to teach yourself post-breakup?

Speaker 8 (01:02:59):
Oh, well, I had to teach myself how to use
a lawnmower after five years.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Yeah. And they don't make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
You've got to, like, push a little thing, flush the thing,
and then pull the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Get some fuel in there. Well, it makes perfect sense.
You put the fuel in, and then you rip that,
and the spark goes away. Nicole, I was cranking the cord,
being like, what am I doing wrong? Did you never
have to mow the lawns as.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
A kid, Nicole?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
No, I've never mowed the lawns.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
I'm 33 years old.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Wow, we used to have to do it as kids
all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
No, we didn't. Oh, I'm lucky. Annie, do you mow
a good lawn now?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Well, I think I do.

Speaker 8 (01:03:32):
Everyone says I look good, but they're just talking me out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Well, you've got to get those lines straight, Nicole. You've
got to have good lines. Nicole, you mow the lawn
with a catcher on, right?

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
Well, this one is very old, so it hasn't got one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
We need to get Nicole a catcher ASAP.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
If you're mowing your lawn without a catcher, you're an animal.
Baby steps.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Nicole, thank you. Let's go to Ashley. Ashley, what did
you have to teach yourself in the breakup?

Speaker 8 (01:04:02):
Cook in smaller portions even though I've got two toddlers
to feed as well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Oh, yeah, because you used to be feeding for four
and now it's three. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
But good to have leftovers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yeah, but no, but I'll just eat them.

Speaker 15 (01:04:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
There are no leftovers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
The leftovers go into me and then I get bigger. Like,
that's how it works.

Speaker 13 (01:04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Do you think you've nailed it, Ashley?

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
Sometimes. Sometimes, no.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Sometimes you just have to eat it all. Yeah. Ashley,
thank you. Olivia, what did you have to teach yourself post-breakup?

Speaker 13 (01:04:33):
A couple of things. I taught myself how to build
my own fires.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Oh, yeah, nice.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
It's a real skill.

Speaker 13 (01:04:42):
And I have taught myself how to change my own tyre.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Oh, good.

Speaker 14 (01:04:46):
Which I'm super proud of and posted all over my
stories and then my teenager told me no one would.

Speaker 13 (01:04:53):
Care, but all the women in my life cared and
carried me on and I felt great.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Olivia, as a woman who has also posted a video
of myself changing a tie and feeling chuffed, you share
it away, man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Yeah, it's a skill.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
It is a skill.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Well done. Olivia, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Some messages in. How to poach an egg. Oh, yeah.
The X was the poacher.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
My mum had to learn how to get petrol at
60 years old when her and my dad split up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Get petrol.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
That's old school, man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
He does the petrol. It's real easy, though.

Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
No, you've got a pretty self-explanatory.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
If you've been to a petrol station, I reckon you
could do it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I think you can, but it's nice. You get a
little sniff of the fuel as well. Answering the door
at night and emptying mousetraps.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
You get a little sniff. Do you have a preferred fuel?

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
91.

Speaker 7 (01:05:42):
91.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
He's a 91 boy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
And I get my fuel from BP. Well, I mean, aviation.
When you're at the airport, love a little walk to
the plane.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Flying regional and you're walking. And they're like, what seat
are you in? And you're like, man, I don't need
to sit down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I'm flying high.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I had to learn how to clean the spouting and
spray the weeds.

Speaker 8 (01:06:02):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 14 (01:06:02):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I haven't even thought about my spouts. It's when you
can see anything growing in the spouts. Yeah, there is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
I taught myself to replace a seatbelt in my car
that the dog had chewed through.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
I couldn't do that. I don't know if I'd be
trusting myself to do that. A seatbelt, famously quite important.
Especially when they need to break at 100 Ks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
My mum's new partner had to learn how to do everything.
He didn't know how to use a washing machine. He
didn't know how to iron a shirt. He didn't know
how to cook anything. Mum told him very quickly, I'm
not doing this all for you. You learn or you're out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Yeah, good. But we're not here to teach you. We're
not here to finish off someone else's work. I had
to learn how to have sex again, and it had
been so long I'd forgotten how. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Still... Generally, do a bit of sort of pre-work. Still
works the same way it's always worked, but a few
new twists. Keep your texts coming in. 9696 are things
you had to learn after a breakup. Some messages in.
I've had to learn as a male how to live
a peaceful, drama-free life. It turns out it doesn't have
to be chaos all the time. Wow. Wow. Gosh. My

(01:07:04):
78-year-old father has had to learn my birthday, my four siblings' birthdays,
and all of his grandkids' birthdays since my mum passed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
She took care of all the birthday stuff. Yeah, and
she'd remind him probably.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
We talk about this a little bit. God, I worry
about some old mates if their wives were to go first.

Speaker 14 (01:07:20):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:07:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Because normally the wives left at the end.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yeah, both my nannas died first, and I think.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Yeah. Both my granddads died first.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Yeah, my pop, who was the last to go, was
very much jam on toast and a cup of tea.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
For all meals?

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Cornflakes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Yep. Jam on toast.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Jam on toast.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Every now and then he'd get a plate that wasn't
oven friendly and he'd put like a freezer pie on
it and that would go in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
But that was for like, how long did he live?
Like 10 more years.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Oh, wow. I had to take my car for a
warrant of fitness. Those things are terrifying. I had to
learn nothing as he did nothing for me. Tell you what,
there's a few of them in there. Scathing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
And thank God this is after your breakup.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
That's what we're asking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
I had to learn that in the separation, my ex
took the special laundry basket with her that self-emptied.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I taught myself to change the spark plug on my lawnmower.
I was so proud. I fixed that mower so many times,
and I'm on a huge section with it. Again there, Savannah,
if we can get a check if you're using a catcher.

Speaker 8 (01:08:26):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Because I came with a catcher for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Someone said, gosh, this segment's making me realize my husband
needs to be doing more. Oh, wow. We're happy to
have illuminated that in your life, Texter.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Um, things I learned post breakup gas bottles. Apparently both
are turned on when they're delivered and they auto change them.
I ran out of gas multiple times before I worked
that one out.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Um, someone said my ex probably had to learn to
brush his teeth without me reminding him to brush his teeth.
to be totally honest.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
That's gross. Do you remember in lockdowns everyone forgot to
brush their teeth? That's right because we weren't like getting
up and going somewhere. That's right. Dentists being like, hey, hey,
we're still doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
How to sleep alone, how to mow the lawn, how
to not lose my shit and how to learn how
to do a lot of farming. That's all from one person.
A lot of work there. Had to learn how to
fix the washing machine when it got blocked and flooded
the house.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
But did it. Did it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Yeah, good.

Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
Good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
That was a shock as a woman who used to
call out, help me, to the man of the house.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Help. My ex was at sea for a total of
seven months a year, so I did it all on
my own.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Were they a pirate? Yeah, they were actually. Only seven
months of the year. The other five, they were just normal.
Just lived off the treasure they'd looted in the seven months.
Some incredible holidays for pirates. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Three months a year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
It's see-so. Sail in, sail out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Like beefo.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're living the high life.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Yeah. My ex was an accountant. I was self-employed. He
always did my tax returns and dealt with all of
that stuff. Who knew you had to pay GST? That
was a big learning curve that first year. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
When you're like, so now I'm GST registered, I get
more money.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Not only that, you have to pay the accountant.

Speaker 8 (01:10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Oh, gosh. A lot of people learning off of YouTube,
and thank God, what would we do without it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Isn't it great? You can just learn so much. Yeah,
teach yourself anything. It is always weird with YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
You're like, okay, I've got this. Massport Moa from 1984.
and you type in 1984 Massport mower, and some old
mate's like, so I've got this 1984 Massport mower, and
I'm going to solve the exact problem that you've got.
And you're like, why did he make this video? But
thank you, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Thank you. Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
It's had 400 views, but I thank you. It's either
had 400 or like 18,000. You're like, so many mowers.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Now, we talked about this yesterday, touched on it. Miley
Cyrus has announced new music. Georgia joins us.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Skilled it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Because she has some kind of privileged access and was
actually played some music.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
But this is coming out.

Speaker 17 (01:10:59):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 17 (01:11:01):
Yeah, so we get the first. There's an album coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
18th of September, right?

Speaker 17 (01:11:04):
Yeah, called Bass Persuades. It's the lead single, Bass Persuades.
And I was lucky enough to hear it yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Yeah, so she was like, there was like little cryptic things,
but why do you get this privileged access and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Not fletched for an inhaler?

Speaker 17 (01:11:16):
Um, let me think about this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Do you have something to add?

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
You're a bit of a big dog right here.

Speaker 17 (01:11:21):
Yeah, I was going to say, I think the big
dog burts part of the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Big dog burts.

Speaker 17 (01:11:27):
You guys could understand if you also were big dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
We're not big dogs. Okay, so the rest of us
have to wait until tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
What time?

Speaker 17 (01:11:37):
That's a great question. I'm assuming 4 p.m.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Not such a big dog.

Speaker 17 (01:11:39):
No, so I don't know if we– I don't think
anyone knows, but I'm pretty sure it's 4 p.m.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 17 (01:11:43):
I've heard two songs, actually, but I don't mean to
brag too much.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
And then you were all cagey about it yesterday because
we're so excited. We love Miley, and I love rock Miley.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Well, you might be in a little.

Speaker 17 (01:11:54):
Bit of heaven with that because I can't say too much,
but her album from 2020, Plastic Hearts, is giving a
bit of that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
The label?

Speaker 17 (01:12:03):
The label? I didn't actually sign anything, though, so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Okay.

Speaker 17 (01:12:07):
I got them on there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Is it catchy? Is it a banger? It's a banger.

Speaker 17 (01:12:11):
It's catchy. It's dancey, and it's giving a little Madonna.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 8 (01:12:15):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Giving a little Madonna. That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I'm going to get in so much trouble.

Speaker 17 (01:12:19):
This feels like gun to my head right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
What about it is Madonna-ing?

Speaker 17 (01:12:23):
I can't say.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
I've said too much. Big dog.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I'm a big dog.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Big dog, big dog.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
It's more like, oh, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Oh, shit, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I was giving you some, I was going, I'm a
little dog barking to the big dog.

Speaker 17 (01:12:39):
That's not how it works around here, okay?

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
How good are you, you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Know, if you've got this privileged access?

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Well, the rest of us will listen tomorrow for Miley's
new song.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
And just on the Miley thing, so with her whole
rebranding announcing this album, she dropped Cyrus, right?

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
And she's just Miley everywhere. And everyone was like, scandal,
because she's publicly had a falling out with her mum
and then fixed that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
With her mum?

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Years ago, they had like a little... We're not really
talking about that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
She was dating Prison Break Guy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Oh, no, they're married. Yeah, so weird. No, that was Noah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Is Tish married to Dominic Purcell?

Speaker 17 (01:13:12):
Yeah, but Noah, the sister was dating, apparently rumoured to
be dating him for a period and now mum's with it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
And then she hasn't really spoken to her dad and
they've kind of rekindled. Everyone's like, scandal, Billy Ray on
his Instagram, which I didn't know existed.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Did a post, it's like him with her as kids
and he says, family means more than ever now. I
always called my little girl Miley, just Miley.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
He said, I told Miley yesterday I felt good about
her going with her first name. I mentioned Dolly and Cher.
I mean, Dolly was Dolly Parton, so that's a bad reference.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
And Cher.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Thinking about it more and more, Elvis, Prince and so on.
Natural progression for an iconic superstar legend like Miley.

Speaker 17 (01:13:49):
But also, of course, he's only going to call his
daughter Miley because who's going around to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Their own daughter saying, Miley Cyrus, Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
No, my mum says Hayley Sproul.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Should we go? No, when you're in trouble, she does.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Hayley James Sproul.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Scammers pretending to be a government department apparently is, oh,
that's so last year. Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Oh, really?

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Or last few months because there is a rise at
the moment right now of scammers pretending to be your bank.
And there is a warning from Netsafe saying that, yeah,
the numbers are at the moment crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:14:29):
On the phone?

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Yeah, I'm guessing pretending to call you and say, hey, look,
we've got a problem with your credit card. We just
need the number and the expiry. Well, it's very elegant.
I was saying just this week, right, I've been scammed
by a charity pretending to be the wheelbarrows.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
And I'm like, can you just scam me the old-fashioned way?

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Yeah, well, they're saying anyone receiving an unexpected call, a
text or an email claiming to be their bank, Yeah,
hang up, delete, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Or hang up and ring your bank.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Yeah, if you're worried about that, Google the bank's number
so you've got the exact right number.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Your bank will never call you from an 027.

Speaker 15 (01:15:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
You know what I mean? No.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Or an international.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
No, you're right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I love when it pops up and it's an unknown
number and your phone will have a guess at where
they're calling from.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Might be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah, might be. Bangladesh. Indonesia. Might be Bangladesh.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I was wondering if we could take some calls now
because it's always, it's the, I guess the feeling is
it's mostly the old people that get scammed. Well, because
they ring up and they say, hello, Mr.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Robinson, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
This is so-and-so. And who are they to think that
they're being scammed? They'll go, oh, no, that's terrible.

Speaker 8 (01:15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
And there's all these campaigns as well, which is like
teach your parents or teach your grandparents or, you know,
reach out to them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
But it's not just, I mean, Shannon got, remember the tolls?
You got scared.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
And the courier one, the courier one where they're like, oh,
you've got to pay some customs tax here.

Speaker 14 (01:15:54):
Yeah, I paid for a toll road when my commute
was 10 minutes from the central Auckland. That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
She's never gone through a tunnel. And I paid and
it was fine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
By age, there's different sorts of scams.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
So 15 to 34 are more likely to be scammed
via social media and online shopping or romance scams.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
I was going to say like fake websites, fake clothing.
Or hi, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Me, Jake Gyllenhaal. I'm in love with you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Send me money though.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
So then 35 to 44 is heavily impacted during major
life purchases. So 35 to 44 only make up 20%
of incidences of scamming.

Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
shoulder the 61% of total losses because they get more
taken from them. Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Okay, so they're getting scammed more.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Yeah. And then you move into your over 60s where
a lot of them are scammed, but it's more smaller amounts.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Right, but it all adds up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
It is the younger people.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Okay, so are you young and have you been scammed?

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Young and scammed. What age are we going? Under 50?

Speaker 12 (01:16:53):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Under 50 is young. Under 50. If that makes you
feel better, Fletcher, we can go under 50. Why are
we going to say, do we go under 30 or
under 40 or?

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
No, under 50 is young.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Because it is, it's always, oh, it's the boomers falling
for it. Us young people don't fall for it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
I've, Shannon, me, I've fallen for multiple in the time
that I've known you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I know so many young people that have fallen for
the your packages stop the customs scam.

Speaker 14 (01:17:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I have. I've definitely got 18 packages on the way.
I mean, it's just the timing. If you do have
18 packages on the way, you're flustered. You're living life
and you're like, oh, I better pay that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
When I did it, the customs one, please pay $ 2
and you put your credit card in. I was literally
waiting on a package from Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
And I was like, It's got me. It's got me,
hasn't it? Okay, 0800 dials at M. Give us a call.
9696 is our text number.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Are you young and have you been scammed? And how
much was it as well? Net Safe New Zealand, who
are the people about the net. Being safe.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Being safe on the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
And on the net.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
In New Zealand. There's a rise in banks, scammers impersonating banks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
So if you get a text or.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
A call, you've got to be wary.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Be wary.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
They'll never ask you. They say all the time on
their official website, they'll never ask you. They'll never call
you and ask you for any information. Details.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Details, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
So we want to know if you've been scammed, but
young and scammed, because it's the, I guess the stereotype
is it's always the oldies falling for the scams.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Falling for it. But it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
God, no, we're inundated. It's literally all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Now, um.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Where do we start? Harriet, good morning.

Speaker 8 (01:18:27):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
What, this was your friend that was scammed?

Speaker 12 (01:18:31):
Yes, yes, we're early 30s. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Just for that age.

Speaker 8 (01:18:34):
And it was the classic marketplace thing where it was
a really cool item, I actually think it was a
pair of sneakers.

Speaker 11 (01:18:40):
And they said, oh, we're getting so many messages, can
you give us a deposit?

Speaker 8 (01:18:44):
And we paid the deposit and then all the chats disappeared,
Item disappeared.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Never to be seen again.

Speaker 12 (01:18:52):
And no more $ 50.

Speaker 10 (01:18:52):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Someone else messaged in that happened to them, that 30-year-old male.
And they've bought and sold dozens of vehicles on Marketplace
and some bastard got me with a four-wheeler scam. $ 450
deposit required due to interest.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Gone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
And you didn't even get the shoes.

Speaker 8 (01:19:09):
No, no, no pool sneakers.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
That's the worst part of this whole story, isn't it, Harriet?

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Okay, so no deposits. That's one thing we're putting down
on Facebook Marketplace, no deposits.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
No deposits. Steph, this was your 14-year-old that was scammed. Whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Yeah, that's me. Hey, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
So what was she scammed on?

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
Olivia Deen tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Because I got.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Scammed for a concert, eh?

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
You did.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Slipknot tickets, that's right. And then they were like, pay
through this thing. What was the setup? How did she
get scammed?

Speaker 8 (01:19:42):
So she was on the Olivia Deen... New Zealand Australia
Facebook page you know those pages that they have yes
and this chick put up that she had three tickets
for sale so my daughter messaged her and said hey
how much for two the chick was like 300 for
two and then she was like cool and then the
whole you know process all that so my daughter paid

(01:20:04):
half yep Yeah, I did this too. And then she
was like, wait, is this for Auckland or Brisbane? And
the chick was like, it's for Auckland, it's for Auckland.
And then she was like, well, why are you selling this?
And then the girl was like, oh, for family, our
family budget is broken.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:20:21):
So like, okay. So then she was like, okay, I'll
just pay the rest. So she paid the whole extra $ 150.
And then the chick messages back and she's like, oh,
so you need to put another $ 58 in for name
change on tickets? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Really?

Speaker 7 (01:20:37):
What?

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
And I was like, when I seen this, like she
was doing this all, I wasn't seeing what was happening.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Of course not mum, we don't tell mum what's going on.

Speaker 8 (01:20:45):
No, never tell mum.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
So once I'd seen all this, I was like, throw it,
it's a scam.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Oh no, and she lost all of her money.

Speaker 8 (01:20:54):
Well, there was all my money gone, so $ 200, that's,
gone out of my pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Has she managed to secure Olivia Deen tickets?

Speaker 8 (01:21:02):
No, she hasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
She'll be standing at the fence.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Not a bad view.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Yeah, not a bad view if you go right at
the back, stand at the fence. Oh, Margaret.

Speaker 8 (01:21:12):
She was trying to go to and she was trying
to be cool.

Speaker 10 (01:21:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
When things sell out and there's urgency and they create
this urgency and you panic because you need the tickets,
you have to watch. You're like, I'll just do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
And you do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
You drop your guard, don't you? Steph, thank you so much. Nia.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Nina, sorry. Nina.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
What was the scam? Yeah, hi.

Speaker 10 (01:21:35):
So I was about 17.

Speaker 8 (01:21:37):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
And.

Speaker 10 (01:21:41):
My mum had flown up to the North Island to
help my dad bring his car and his stuff back
to the South Island.

Speaker 6 (01:21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:21:48):
And so I said, OK, cool, I'll book the ferry
ticket so you don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:21:52):
I was.

Speaker 10 (01:21:53):
online and i found this cheap website and i thought
oh fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Yeah sweet yeah yeah it was.

Speaker 10 (01:22:01):
Like about 400 which was about i think it was
like 80 or 90 cheaper than a usual ferry ticket
i was like okay cool like i'll book this yeah
there's no problems i booked that paid for it yeah
My parents got to the ferry terminal and they said, sorry,
we don't have anything here for you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
You're telling me these fake ferries.

Speaker 6 (01:22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Like it's a third-party website that makes out it can
book on the ferries.

Speaker 9 (01:22:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:22:32):
I freaked out, rung the bank.

Speaker 16 (01:22:33):
I was like, hey, look, this happened.

Speaker 10 (01:22:35):
They're like, oh, okay, because you're within the window, we.

Speaker 8 (01:22:39):
Can reverse it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Yeah, yeah. Amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:22:40):
We'll get the money back, but it'll be about a day.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
So my parents had to wait in Wellington.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Oh, my God, just all their.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Shit in their car. You're so lucky you got your
money back, though, because often it's too late, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
If you catch it, you can ring your bank and
be like, oh, that was not, that's a scam.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Oh, my gosh. Nina, thank you. Let's go to Megan. Megan,
when were you scammed?

Speaker 11 (01:23:04):
It was like last year or the year before or something.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
I'm 23 now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Okay, so young, young.

Speaker 11 (01:23:10):
Yeah, I was actually selling something on Facebook Marketplace.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:23:16):
And somebody, like, expressed interest and sent me a link
that looked like it was the NZ Post website where
you can send payments through that website.

Speaker 14 (01:23:29):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:23:30):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (01:23:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
So it looked exactly like the website.

Speaker 8 (01:23:33):
It fully did. Like, the logo was there.

Speaker 11 (01:23:35):
Like, the link looked fine.

Speaker 14 (01:23:37):
Oh.

Speaker 11 (01:23:39):
And so I put my bank details in and they
just log into my bank account. Thank you, the bank. uh,
like noticed it, called me and was like, this is
not real girl. Um, so I transferred all my money. Um,
I just put it in my partner's account, but they did,

(01:23:59):
they tried to transfer like eight or $ 900. Oh my God.

Speaker 10 (01:24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
So NZ Post had this, uh, webpage dedicated to this
whole scam. It's a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Oh my God.

Speaker 10 (01:24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
Again, thank God that your bank was like, Megan, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Some messages.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Um, have you ever done any booking through booking.com?

Speaker 12 (01:24:20):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
All of mine.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Somebody said that a couple of people said I got
scammed $ 300, $ 800. I do beg your pardon, uh, through booking.com.
I turned out, I was booking a accommodation for me
and my partner for a getaway, contacted the bank and
managed to get the money back. Thankfully, because we booked
for something that didn't even exist.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
So the listing didn't exist. I just got scammed over
$ 3, 000 through Booking.com for accommodation that doesn't exist. Booking cancelled
the accommodation, but the money I paid has disappeared, and
Booking.com are a nightmare to deal with. Oh, no. I
Googled Booking.com, you know, prevalent with scams, and someone said, yeah,
compromised host accounts. There's phishing messages. There's customer support issues. God,

(01:24:57):
I use booking.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
I use it all the time. I've never had a problem. Yeah,
you're probably good for hotels. Hotels I'm all about. Because
you know that they're legit. But yeah, if it's like
rentals and stuff, who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Sometimes there's little, yeah, Airbnb type things. But yeah, that's worrying.
Especially like if you're going somewhere, like if you were
going to Thailand for like two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
A new country and you're like, that doesn't exist.

Speaker 9 (01:25:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Yeah, you've got to check it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Somebody messaged in their work in scam prevention. Gone are
the days of looking for a weird email number or
bad spelling. Scammers are now using social engineering at such
a vast scale with the capabilities of AI, systematically targeting
people at key emotional milestones in their life. Buying a house,
getting married, dealing with deceased estates, and the 20s and

(01:25:39):
40s are losing more money via complex investment scams as
they look ways to counter living costs.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
That's how I.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Got scammed that tattoo guy last year was this year.
It was 700 bucks. 700 bucks. Most tattoo deposits are
150 or 200. But when I emailed this sought after
tattoo artist, I left an O off of tattoo. So
it was like something, something, something, tattoo, and I lost

(01:26:07):
an O and someone had already like clocked.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
That that's a way of getting money. It's wild, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Watch yourselves out there. Be careful out there. There's been
a study done looking at the happiest and the saddest cities,
but only some of them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
So I'm trying to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
This is, so I've read this on stuff, but Christchurch
hasn't been involved in this. Now, in 2024, it's the
Quality of Life Project Survey.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Go and interview.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Thousands of Kiwis about their satisfaction of life.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
What would you say about yours?

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Getting better.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
About my what? Life satisfaction.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Or just life. It's on the up, baby.

Speaker 9 (01:26:54):
On the up. It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Watch out. I think my satisfaction of life is really high.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Like if I look around, I'm like, I have days
where I'm like, Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Sick life.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
But for some reason, so Christchurch was involved, but for
some reason, and I've tried to dig to find why
Christchurch has not been included in both this write-up and
the deeper thing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
I've said before, it's the coolest city in the country
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Yeah, maybe they say it's normally part of the Quality
of Life Project. Usually they go Auckland, Hamilton, Tauranga, Wellington, Porirua, Hutt, Christchurch, Dunedin,
and Waikato region.

Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
And Christchurch isn't in this. So apologies, Christchurch. You suck, apparently.

Speaker 10 (01:27:35):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
No, we love it. We love Christchurch. Well, they've got
a Hydra slide now. They should be very happy. That
would have probably, why?

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Yeah. They didn't even bother asking them. Because they've got
a Hydra slide. Because they were just like, you guys
got a Hydra slide. So new stadium, Hydra slide. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
It's like, you're going to win.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
And every time, would you say every time, especially you
and me, Fletch, we go to Christchurch, we'd have been like,
I could live here.

Speaker 7 (01:27:53):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
I think I might move here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
So at the top, Dunedin. Really?

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Dunedin tops the New Zealand's quality of life survey for 2026. 83%
of Dunedin residents rated their quality of life as good,
very good, or extremely good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Really? Okay, well done. That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
They had thousands and thousands of respondents. It went Dunedin
at the top, just under is Wellington, with Tauranga just
behind there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Dunedin, Wellington, Tauranga. Wellington was sad at the moment because
the city's sad.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
No, they're second. 80% rated their quality of life as good,
very good or extremely good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Because you're hanging out for the good day, which you
can't be.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Now, I will say at the bottom, shall we say,
quote unquote, the bottom is the heart where I hark from.
But it's not like the bottom meaning the most miserable
because this is a happiness survey.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
So there's still 73% happy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
So which is like the vast majority of Wellingtonians. There's
no like. There's not a misery survey.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
You know, of how miserable life is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Lots of factors go into this. It's like urban vibrancy,
things to do, vibes basically.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Hydra slides. Hydra slides. Any hydra slides there in the hut? Um.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Heart Valley. Hoiapol has a little slide.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
No, is it Hydra?

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
H2Go Extreme in Upper Hutt.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Yeah, but that's not lower. No, it's not lower.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
But it's Heart Valley.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Was this just in a general.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
It said Hart Valley. I'm not sure if it includes Upper.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
They've got a small hydroslide. So knowing my pool has
a 15-minute pool and two hydroslides. Okay, there you go.
Lots of things.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Cost of living, strain, you know, how affordable cities are.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
But yeah, Dunedin, up the top.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Traffic congestion was taken into account. Dumped rubbish and dangerous driving.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Like, a-holes on the road. That's why Auckland's not.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Anywhere near the top.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Not in the top.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
No, we're second to bottom, baby, Auckland. Wow, okay. But
good on you, Dunedin. I love Dunedin. Beautiful place. Hey, guys,
apparently being the company's most successful podcast isn't enough. They
want us to tell people to tell more of their friends.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
So people are clearly liking it, but we have to
tell them to tell others to like it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Yeah, see, I would concentrate more on the shitter podcasts
that the company makes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Yeah, same. You know, the real losers out there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Yeah, like, no, no, no, we'll just.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Yeah. Maybe we won't say nice.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Maybe we should even encourage people to listen to other
podcasts that the company makes. Oh, no, but only after ours.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Yeah, nah, nah, don't do that. And not more than ours.
Give us a sexy little review, though. Play ZM's Fletchbourne
and Hayley.

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