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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Hierarchy Breakfast, Get your insulation jobs sorted with Bunning straight.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Lucky Breakfast with Jerry and the Nire Good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome along to the Hidache Breakfast Wednesday, the tenth of
June twenty twenty six. She's at Shelley Morning all around
the country. Welcome along though.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, Arctic, it's quite refreshing when you wake up first
thing in the morning. Still no frost as of you
in Auckland. I don't think I'll see one now.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I am currently some point two in Auckland. Although down
the country as you go further and further south, frostier
and frostier, frosty and the white.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Up alls culder as you go south here again Central Platte.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, still getting hit by some decent swells in Wellington,
although that wind is dying down.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I saw some of the footage of that yesterday. They
looked gnarly. The sea had come onto the land, didn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I believe there was a twelve meter recorded somewhere.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Is all right, twelve meter poon army.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's a big that's a big, big body of water.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's a lot of pose to be coming back up
onto the shore. Hopefully that has subsided. Feel free to
reach out if you saw anything down there or up there,
depending on where you are in the country.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
But definitely frosts over the next a few days, but
a big settled patch coming June. Mid June May delivered.
Seems like June's delivering as well.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Great, this is the summer we were hoping for a December,
isn't it. Finally got it and we're still ungrateful.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Up next, let's talk about what's going on in London
with English cricketers. The latest is quite.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Interesting, is that I'm excited for an update on this.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Jerry and Min the hod Ikey Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'll tell you what's going on over in the UK.
The captain of the English cricket team being Stokes you
know him, lived in New Zealand until the age of ten,
famous for teaming up with Brenda McCullum and created the
bears Ball era of Test cricket in England where they attack, attack, attack, attack, attack.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And then go play cricket.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
After the win against New Zealand in at Lord's which
is based in London, a couple of the guys went out,
including Ben Stokes and Gus Atkinson, and then they Apparently
they went out. They're not allowed to go out past twelve.
That is part of their team protocol and.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's because one of them, Harry Brooke, got in an
altercation with a security guard in Wellington after beating us
over here yep, and they went out and got on
the soup and had a for car.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
There's also been some issues over in Australia doing the
ashes as well with Ben Duckett.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
He got lost and Noosa they went and went to
get on the person. Noosa and his mates left him
and he didn't know where he was.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I don't know if that was after twelve was it,
but know there was no curfew then that's what brought
the curfew in. So I'm not sure whether this incident
happened after or before twelve o'clock. Yes, but it seems
that a radio station called Talk Sport has got some
inside information and it's alleging that Stokes will likely step

(03:00):
down a scupper and retire from cricket. He's certainly being
apparently pressured by the England Cricket.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Board to retire from cricket, to retire from all playing cricket.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well, either he retires or they will be forced to
maybe retire him, if you know what I mean. So
they're saying a couple of options here, either you go
or we're going to fire you.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Couldn't they just be like, hey, can you put just
get off the piss. Wouldn't they be the first protocol? Ah?
Have they already done that?

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Well, apparently in the last twelve months he has said
he only drinks on occasion. He's even started like a
low or no alcohol drink brand. But he did say
after the one he's like, me and the boys are
going to go out and have a few tonight.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And and fair enough and fair enough. We don't know
exactly what's happened, but it seems that they somehow had
an altercation, yes, involving a guy who plays for Saracen's
rugby club.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, apparently they went to a nightclub where they were
having their Mad Monday. Their season had just finished, and
then the the the Black EPs, the White Caps, the
English cricket team pull up. So the Mad Monday reports
I'm hearing out of the Times of India is that
Gus Atkinson and Ben Stokes were in the VIP yeah,
with one of the Saracens players who allegedly threw a

(04:14):
punch that I think was meant for Atkinson and then
hit a security guard.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yep. So I mean Ben Stokes sounds like he was
just there with his mate at the stage. I mean,
it doesn't sound like he was doing who knows what said,
Someone said something, Someone obviously said something else, someone took
offense to it because probably people had had some drinks.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, the security guard would have gone in the middle
of it. He's popped on apparently stitches involved.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Sounds like a pretty low level incident.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
It sounds like the English cricket team can't handle their
sounds like that.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
So apparently, yeah, he's got his head stitches the ECP
security guard. So it's interesting that they go out with
the security guard. Well, that says something to me. That
says that people are pesting them. Yeah, and it's difficult
to deal with.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, there's definitely what happened at least in Nursa and
Ducket couldn't find his way home and people were just
filming him. Well great, yeah, so what now?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, apparently that ECB, the England cricket boarder, putting pressure
on Ben Stokes to retire from all international cricket rather
than face a public sacking. So I guess over the
next few days we'll see what happens, because imagine if
he disticks his nap and I'm just playing were turning
up and playing at the oval and except New Zealand
in London, and about seven days time, I.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Think, well, and then what's their other options? They're going
to take him out and then make Harry Brook the captain.
I mean, he's the one who got the for car
last time I know, and that's that's the other option.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's a great world we live on. I like a
love a bit of spice in the world. Sounds like
nobody was really hurt that much.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Just there's more to this. I reckon, there's way more
to this.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
You reckon. I'll ever find out what was said though
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know. I reckon there was a phone out.
I reckon more will come out. That's why they brought
it to the media because they know this is coming.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Out Jerry and Midnight Keep Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
So see yesterday I was reading Toyota has been named
New Zealand's most reputable brand. It's top the list the
Cantar Corporate reputation index for the third consecutive year Toyota.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
So how has how they come out this? I presume
it's a survey of sorts. They ask people what brands
they do and don't trust. You would think, I see
obviously to number one. That's purely off the back of
the high Lux and the Corolla. Yeah, it was nothing else.
Great cars, great cars, and I trust them as long

(06:35):
as the day is long. You don't trust a Camri,
Oh look, I don't mind a camera, and that falls
under a Twurta as well. I'm just saying the Highluck
is doing a lot of heavy lifting for Toyota.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
What about a Yaris?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Great but also Toyota. So if I trust all of those,
they also contribute to the Toya. What my issue is
is with Suzuki because the Swift I've got I've been
trying to kill the entire time I've had it, and
I can't. I just think that the al Kaida would
have been onto something if they had averted a couple
of Suzuki Swifts instead of to out of High Luxes
back in the day.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, maybe if you could find a dipstick for the
bloody thing, then people might trust a little bit more.
And then this is the thing they think. Yep, I
love Suzukis, but I've lost my dipstick and now I
can't buy another one.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, here's how reliable they are. You don't need a dipstick.
And I actually think dipstick is just another invention by
big oil to sell you more oil, because since I've
gotten rid of mine and well actually it never had one,
I haven't bought more oil for that thing.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I want to know the origin story of how you
lost your dipstick, because obviously the person before you took
it out and they must have checked the oil and
then forgot to put it back. And again, well is
that what we're thinking.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
But the person who owned it before me, he owned
it for a number of years, and that was my
brother in law, and he's his story is that it
always had a dipstick. And I was like, well, did
you ever have top the oil?

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Up?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I can't remember?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I was like, because I never had a dip What
do you say to allegations that you used to refer
to him as the dipstick?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, what do you do? How do you answer allegations
that every time I bring that dipstick up. The same
joke gets made on the text for she and that
the dipsticks actually sitting behind the wheel. So else is
in their Pack and Save AA insurance? I wouldn't I
find it strange that an insurance company would be up there.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, let's go back to Peck and Safe. I mean,
obviously people trust them to deliver, you know, to keep
prices low. Well yeah, I mean that is the cheapest supermarket. Yeah,
but so they don't pack your crap for you.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, but only rich people care about that, Jude. The
common folk.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
They don't actually nobody packs anything anyway anymore, do they.
And you don't get any bags, so that's hopeless.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
You can get Pack and Save to pack stuff for
you if you buy online, because then they go around
and they get everything off the shelf for you, and
then you can go and pick it up. But you've
got to do that thing like a week in advance.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
There's a hack. So Peck and Save they don't do
online shopping.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
They do, but you've got to go and pick it up.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh, you've got to pack it.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
Well, okay, you've got to pick it up, and you've
got to be organized, but not.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
As into the online shopping, as say, you're all worse.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
No, not as much.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
But the problem with the online shopping is you click
something and they can't find it. They'll just find the
nearest possible thing and they'll go, yeah, that'll do. Now,
now you're at home. You asked for gluten free breed,
it's normal breed, and now you're back in.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Super I've never done the online shopping.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Because you've got people that go and do you chopping
for you. It's as good as online shopping. What I
find in this thing is in New Zealand up at
five my clug got delayed three times on Friday.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's down.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's down too at another couple. If I get one
of those surveys.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
But if they got to compare to.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Jerry in the night, the hold I keep breakfast.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
We're talking about New Zealand's most trusted corporate sets because
the Kent Corporate Reputation Index is out. It's been going
for twelve years now. TWET is the number one pack
and Savers to AA Insurance is three, and then surprisingly
TV and Z is four.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, that is very surprising. I wouldn't order of thoughts.
I thought for the amount that people slag off the news.
You would think that TV and Z would have been
way lower than that, and particularly the fact that you're
on it.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well that's I think they slag off the news right, No,
but seven sharp delivering light infertainment every single night without
fail to educate and to inform. We never don't deliver
a program. We're always they're delivering our good news, an
optimistic look at New Zealand life after the news every

(10:19):
single night.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Jerry, do you think, because these are the things that
the ratings come from, do you think there's are fear
about TVNZ trust? Do you think people trust TVNS absolutely?
And do you think they've got good leadership and slash
success absolutely?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
TVNZ yeah itself?

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Or I mean what people would think about it?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Well, what do people think? Is it that they think
about the leadership of tv Z? Do you think about
the CEO of or do they think about the programs
that they're watching? I would say the programs that they watch?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I don't know, Man, When I watch, I'm like, how
are they lead? Are they? Do they present a united front?
Are they well informed? Do they have a clear destination?
Do they have a north star? Are they all alone
in their goals?

Speaker 8 (11:00):
Well?

Speaker 6 (11:01):
What about fairness here. Do you think TVNS is fair
as perceived by the public.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, I think TVZ I think TV's is fair, I
mean as fair as any organization is.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
And lastly, responsibility, Yeah, I think that they do see
them They do see themselves as having a responsibility to
New Zealand to be there to show them what's going
on at certain times.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Probably less. They're probably making less programs than they ever
have in the past. Yep, realistically definitely, but because back
when I first started working a TVNZ there was like,
oh my god, they used to make so many programs,
and nowadays they've worked out that it's far cheaper just
to buy not overseas programs. Yeah, put them on such
as the constraints of the current.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
TV Yeah, that's right. I know. Though. No radio stations
feature in the top twenty most reputable brands.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
No New Zealand now now that's interesting. No News Talk ZB.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
No not even news Dogs, No Radio New Zealand, no
Radio New Zealand, no no Radio hodak In. That I
think is a travesty. You're telling me you trust zespri
more than you trust us. How many times have you
come to Zesprin that things been rotten in the middle.
You know what I mean. At least you know we're
gonna be shitited every single day.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Jerry andman Knight, The Hodiarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Time for you latest sport headlines thanks to expert Ultra
the Bear for Here. The future of Ben Stokes as
England cricket captain is unclear this morning as the investigation
into a nightclub incident continues. Radio station Talk Sport claims
Stokes will likely step down a skipper and retire from
cricket following a late night for car following himself, Guy

(12:38):
gars Atkinson and Saracen's rugby player Touteur ovar Ovar is
reported to have aimed a punch at Atkinson but connected
with an England Cricket security guard.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And so Ben Stokes has to retire, Yes, we'll Ben
Seks was out past his curfews. I feel like there's
a lot more to this story and I do think
it's all going to come out too. I reckon there
were cameras. I think people know what happened. I don't
think you call for your captain's head. If someone else
throws a punch at someone else there, well you're.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Not meant to be out and you're breaking team protocols
and you're the captain.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Should you have to retire from your profession for that?
Because you do that every other week. I think he
only scored twelve and zero on that test too. The
other eighteen in the last we were the.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
Other interesting thing. Obviously.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
Now they've got like quite a big break, like a
ten day break in between that. Imagine if the next
Test was a few days away and they had to
name a squad right now. And I can tell you
because we've been jokingly saying the black Caps are going
to have a good old time in London. I bet
you now they're just going to stay in the hotel
and cause no drumas whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, or do you go, well, look they've already made
the headline. Sure, nothing we can do is going to
be bigger than that.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
The delivery services are very good in Lemon, I'm told.
The White Fans have claimed a tense five wicket win
over South Africa in a warm up game for the
T twenty World Cup title defense. Chasing one hundred and
eighty four away, New Zealand has one with two balls
to spare. That merly cur led the way with sixty
one or thirty two.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
As she always does. That is poor preparation for a
Tea twenty World Cup. Well you know this for any
World Cup in New Zealand. We like to get absolutely
pants in the lead up to a World Cup and
then we come in as underdogs and go good. That
starts on Saturday. By the way, are there too many
cricket World Cups years?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
But they are all sorts of different ones. Now you've
got the Tea twenty, you've got the fifty over, you've
got the Test sort of thing going on.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's not a one. Oh yeah, that's a good point.
So the black Caps are playing in the World Test
Championship at the moment as well.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yep, what's the champion's trophy? What's that one?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh? Want to hang on? That one was at the
start of the year. That's why we had that big
hole in our summer of cricket because of the champions trophy.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
But we always that the world Last year we got
the champions.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's too confusing and the Warriors back to something we
can understand. And the Warriors will be without both of
their starting props and co captains for Saturday's clash. Against
the Shocks in Auckland. Mitch Barnett is absolutely again on
state of origin Judy, while the Fish James Fisher Harris
has picked up a calf injury.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Don't want that.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Jackson Ford, Tennis Owers Smith will start in the front
row second roll. The Seama also drops out with a
hamstring is he?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh really? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Replaced by Marata Nio Corde.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yes, Tomato Martin's going to be half back. But I
see Luke Metcalff again on the extended bench. That'll be
interesting to see if he plays as well. It's a
lot the injuries are really starting to mount up for
the Warriors, but every time one falls over, So for example,
Fisher Harris, didn't we bring Jackson Ford and Tennis Dowers Smith.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
In meaningful minutes?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Meaningful minutes and Jackson Ford who is your Deli m
Player of the Year for twenty twenty six. So I
don't know we're in a good spots as a club.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
You were saying to me the other hour, do you
know Jackson Ford hasn't mister tackle or made a mistake
all year?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't think I was certain that has dropped. He's
definitely dropped the ball. Yeah, But who hasn't He's certainly
he's certainly up on the dropped balls, if you know
what I mean, like the like the trusted.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Trusted front rower.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeahs trust Indexes on the way I.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Have you put them right up. But Tab has the
Warriors his favorites this week here the Dollar thirty two
out of the Sharks, three forty.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Jerry and Mini, the hold Ikey Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Not too distant past, we've been accused of a little
too downstairs focused on the show, particularly around Thursdays. We've
received a lot of feedback around that, so I you know,
I've been making a conscious effort to raise the bar
a little bit, stop stop things from getting so downstairs.
I can do that to a degree on the show.
What I can't do is do that on TVNZ's premiere

(16:43):
light infotainment show seven shar.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I'm please you say it's a premier Thank you very much.
I mean, finally you are conceding that it is the
premier infotainment show in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I mean, who are you competing against? They still do
on the project. I think I was the last guest
on that show. I said, I am it up to
last anyway, So imagine my shock and discuss when I
sit down to eat my dinner last night at approximately
six fifty three and I hear this been.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
On seven sharp, answering your questions and concerns about can
we save it?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Plus the family bond on the field, what's it like
playing with your mum? I see what you've done, then.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
What I've done?

Speaker 7 (17:22):
What you've done?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
You have taken a piece of audio in isolation, and
you can't see the pictures which are going with that
piece of audio. But if you watched on later on
in the show and the seven o'clock, if you just
stayed watching through Dan's weather into seven sharp and went
and realized that we're about to come through with some positive,

(17:45):
uplifting stories. Always positive, always end on uplifting note' is
that what you do always aways always positive? That's good.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
We should do that on the show. We sort of
just die in the water and then we work on that.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
And what you would have seen is that, in fact,
we were talking about the the story on the on
the Stokes Valley Women's Social football team, and there are
I think five might be six mother daughter combos inside
of inside of that, so that called the VNX right,

(18:18):
don't look at me like that. They called the VNX right, yep,
because it's a play on the Phoenix again Stokes Valley
v gotcha yep?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Right?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
And the VNX have a number of mother daughter Interestingly,
actually the mother daughter none of them look alike. Both
her and I were watching the story and we're like,
are we sure that.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
These are mother daughters? Are we being taken for a
ride here?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
They do not look alike?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, look, man, I'm not sitting through half an hour
of your show to watch that. So all I can
go off is the audio that I heard, which I
don't know if we can replay again or not. But
all I can do is go off what I heard,
which is.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
This family bond on the field. What's it like playing
with your num?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
There were certain Yeah, it was an interesting way to
say that.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I don't know how else I could say that.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
What is it like what I like playing to play
alongside your mother? That's not what you see.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
We're all about word economy on seven ship. You don't
muck around with people. That's why TVANS is the fourth
most trusted brand in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Jerry Edmondnight the hold Ikey breakfast.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
John Key, not John Key. What's his name, John Kerwin?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
John Key.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, See John Key's going to fix the ber Rugby.
Have you seen that.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I haven't seen John Key fixing. I have seen John
Couran fixing.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I haven't seen that one.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
John Key is going to fix it, Is that right?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
He does have a lot of ideas.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, it's sort of like a fascally responsible lift yourself
up by bootstraps approach. What did John Kerwin reckon?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
John Kewans does a podcast with Victor Mattfield. You remember
him Spring bought great, great player.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
What was in that armband that he used to wear.
Remember he always had his forearm wrapped. He had his
forearm wrapped or something, and there was like a bulky
part of it. What was in that?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, I feel like he broke his arm. I think
it was like Melma Ninger.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Broke his arm at some stage and then he had
the arm guard.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like Rod sort of put in there. But I always wondered, like,
what's in there? And at the bottom of a rockers,
he's just right into your forehead.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
They hardly lost when he was around, like he was
an exceptional player.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Him and Barkie's great. He's like a he looks like
an action.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Movie star, handsome.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah. If Rambo is South African, yep, it'll be Victim Mattfair.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
So him and JK JK do Ankie. Yeah, this is
the John cur John Kuran. Yeah. They do a rugby
podcast called Rugby Rivals, and JK reckons that rugby's broken.

Speaker 10 (20:33):
I believe that Super Rugby has been amazing for us
for the last thirty years, but I think it's over
and I believe we need to get back to tribalism
and traditionalism. If it was me, and let's just say
that the five franchises it's too late, I would bring
in another three New Zealand sites, and then I would
say to the Australians, why don't you bring brat Ranwick

(20:53):
and Brothers, and we play like an NRL.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
We play Australia New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (20:58):
But also the other thing that needs to check rugby
is we need to divide the money up differently, so
we need some television rights for the franchises so they
can start being professional and surviving by themselves. It's time
for change, and I think that tribalism and traditionalism is
what great sports nations go on.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I don't mind it. I kind of like where he's
coming from. I don't know if we've got the population
here in New Zealand to do it. But say, for example,
and I know this is what they're trying to do
with more in PACIFICA. If there were like four Super
rugby franchises in Auckland alone, then there would be local
derbies between those clubs and you would feel more allegiance
to your local seem like for example, where I grew

(21:39):
up down in South Canterbury, we're three hours away from
krash each so like, yes, I'm a Crusaders fan, but
I didn't get to a lot of games because it's
three hours away from We're on from now. If there
was a team in Timuru, if Southland had a super
rugby team, you know what I mean, you would have
all you would have so much more allegiance to that
and you would there's an inbuilt like allegiance to that
team straight off the road.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah okay, So that's an MPC system basically, Yeah okay, yeah,
because that was popular, like the New Zealand's MPC was
a popular comp as a bloody good competition. He had promotion, relegation.
He had three divisions.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yes, the problem is when professionalism came along, you can't
promote a team out of the Heartland Championship into the
NPC because they're not set up for that. No, everyone's
just chipping it on the weekends doing what they can.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah. And also I think you get their wealthier provinces
that start buying up pretty much everybody else's players from
everywhere else. But that's kind of what happens overseas, but
professional it is.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
And I think that the difference is that we don't
have the population here to support that kind of you know,
there's not enough money in it. But I do think
if there were more teams, like I think that's what
makes the NRL so good is that there's one are
their nine to ten teams in the NRAL that are
from Sydney alone. I don't know they've got the population
to support it, but it just means there's way more rivalries.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, and they've actually got proper affiliations with clubs. Yeah,
so the club thing wouldn't work in New Zealand. So
I don't know why he's talking about Randwick and I
think that's weird. I think you'd end up with New
South Wales and Queensland, which is back in the day,
that's what you sted to happen. And Auckland used to
play Queensland and New South Walest quite a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
But also that is literally those are the two franchises,
and like the Reds yeah, and the Blue yeah, the Warrior.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
But just call them what they are, which is a state.
So a name change, yeah, like basically a name change.
But but he's onto something. But I would go one
step further, and I think they actually need to change
the way that the gamers. I think that's it. And
everyone keeps saying, oh, the products go, the productsgo, We've
got a great product, which just go.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, rubbish, I've got the answer. I think too many
players on the field is too congested, so we take
two players away, I'd say, I'd suggest the flankers. I
reckon too much position. You should have to say four
or five positions, four or five phases. You should have
to hand the ball over or kick it away up

(23:53):
to you. I think tries are worth too much. I
think they should come down from five to about four points,
and I think a drop goal should be worth one.
Solved rugby end.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Okay, I've got one word for you that I think
will change rugby for the better, especially after watching games
recently from the mid nineties and rucking nobody ever got
a head injury and knock out from rucking.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Jerry and Midnight the Hoarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Jerry and then I joined the complaint the Hadarki Breakfast
discussion group on Facebook.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
For more so.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I've talked about it before and moving my parents out
of the family home they've been living in for bloody
forty years or something, no longer than that. Forty six years. Wow,
a long time, and you sold it out from one
of them.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
You say.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
It was good to get them out of there, that's
for sure, because they're financially in the mid eighties, you know,
and eighties you need to be you need you need
to go small, there's no doubt about that. Too much
to look after grounds, you know, lawns and stuff like that.
Too hard.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I think that in my thirties, I want lis I
don't want to get home and have jobs to do.
Don't most want to park up on the couch.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know what you see, it's a massive albatross around
someone's next Just the most basic stuff so.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Chasing your tail in the garden around your house, just
when you get to one part, the next part and
they're doing and you just.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, totally. So anyway, moved them out. But part of
the process was just getting rid of all the crap
that you accumulate over a long period of time. And
my mum likes accumulating crap. She's huge on it. She's
very sentimental and so she's kept heaps of stuff, weird stuff,
and she had a whole bunch of video costs VHS casts.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
He is, Zoe, would you know a VHS of so on?
If I gave you a VHS and a VCR, do
you think you could play the VS and the VCR?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I reckon. A great test would be for people of
Zoe's Zoe's twenty two now twenty two year olds, to
try and get them to record a program later on
in the week, to set the timer.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Up and then play it back for us, because that.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Wasn't even easy in the eighties. But with a G
code that would be great.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Code with I was like, what was a GC gonna bounce?
I don't even remember the G The.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
G codes made it really easy. The midst of Ash
Black diamond. So I was going through some of these
tapes and my mom was like, oh, you probably want
to keep some of these, and I'm like, hold on,
and I looked at what they were. It was. It
was very interesting. There was a whole bunch of sport
that I'd recorded. There was a series of Blackadder Goes Forth,

(26:24):
which I watched a lot. There was a lot of
WWF from the late eighties. Oh year, Summer Slam eighty nine. Now, man,
did I watch that over and over? Just about knew
the commentary off by heart. And my mom was like,
I said, just biff these and she's like, you can't
throw all this away. This is you recorded all this year.

(26:45):
I was like, Mum, Firstly, I'm never gonna watch it. Secondly,
no one has a VHS player anymore. No one's got
anything to play this on. And she goes, but maybe
in the future you might have a VHS to But
I was like, there's a less chance in the future
having a VHS player than what there is now.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Only if we got bombed back to the Stone Age
would we be able to play these things again?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah? Yeah, but she was She said, I used to
watch this over and I was like, yeah, I used to.
I remember actually pausing the ads so I would record it. Oh,
and I would do live editing on it, yes, and
so because I didn't want to have to fast forward
the ads j Yeah, So I'd pause the record and

(27:25):
then it would and then there'd be a fuzzy kind
of a line that would come up and around and
the audio would sort of swerve.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
And then just the start of an AD break, and
then just the end of the air break. Because you
knew when they played the head the promo for the station, yes.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
The time to get ready on the pause button.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
And also you knew that the ad brakes were three
and a half minutes exactly. So as soon as three
minutes came up, you're like, all right, here we go,
thirty seconds to go.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
I'm ready on the button. That's what we used to do.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
So you had Summer Slam nineteen eighty nine. Was that
the one where Hulk Hogan fought Zeus in the main event?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Noel? Was that someone Slam eighty nine? I think there
was maybe, I maybe I'm eighty eight. I was the
Mega Powers versus the Megabucks, Ray the Giant and the
Million Dollar versus march O Man and Hulk Hogan Miss
Elizabeth in their corner.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Because I'm a couple of years younger than you. So
the one that we had round and round and round
on Rotate was Ultimate Warrior versus Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania six.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yes, we also had.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Gremlins the movie, Yes, Ghostbusters the movie, and disturbingly Labyrinth,
which when you're a kid, when you watch it, it's
all good, but then when you see David Bowie and
his codpiece when you're in your twenties, the real, real
problematic movie.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, but younger for me, we had Men and Black,
the will Smith Men and Black on Vair Jess with
I distinctly remember the two logo because Dad must have
done the same thing where he paused during the ad.
You see the two logo flash in the screen static,
then the two logo again, and then the movie continues that.
And then the other one, the sporting one he had

(29:02):
was the famous Maltis victory over the Lines in two
thousand and five.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes, that was a great game.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
That was his pride and joy every now and then,
and the boys around having a couple of beers and
just slopped that thing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
A friend of mine had the had some of the
Underarm recorded to nineteen eighty one wow back in the day,
and then his mum recorded over it and was like
there we will never be once ever again. It just
has been no YouTube of course.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, there's a few text going was an interesting one
about rediscovered family DVD vhs is converted to DVD's I
read out next. But there's some doozies.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Jerry and Minnie, the Hotarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
We're talking about classic old VHS tapes that you had
around the place.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yes, someone says for James has said as a twelve
year old, I had a copy of Basic Instinct with
w WIR written on the label.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, I reckon there was quite a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
So mum's flicking through this because watch his bloody WWF stuff. Meanwhile,
he's got Basic Instinct on that thing.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You always knew a good one though, when you when
you're ripped off the tabe oh yeah, and did you
guys ever wrap off the tab? I mean I wrapped
off the tab on some slow eighty eight and I
believe eighty nine or a lot of a lot of
the WrestleManias. Actually that didn't never resumt it on TV.
They never played the WrestleMania for some reason.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
What's what's ripping off the tab?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
You know on the on the tape itself, it had
a little on the on the right hand side, there
was a little a little a little plastic tab that
you could take off and then you couldn't record anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Ah, I didn't know about that, okay.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And then you could actually put a bit of tape
over the top of it if you wanted to record
again over it. But yeah, it had a little it
had a little you can't record tab and you could
you could.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Pull it off right and then you could record.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah. For example, allo vhs is that you got from
video stores and stuff, they always had the tab pulled
off so you couldn't record over the top of them.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yes, I we I must have been about eighteen nineteen.
We had a flat and there was a guy who
lived in basically a shit in the paddock over the
back side of the flat. He was vaguely unhoused, but
he was evicted from that shit at one point. I
think they were putting a horse in there, and he

(31:14):
threw a bunch of vhs is over our back fence
to us to play and we had to go and
even at that at that time it was in the
about twenty nine ten, We're to go and try and
find a VCR somewhere to play it, and it was
all adult content.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Be I bet it was having a lot here. So
the last VHS player was produced in twenty sixteen by Funai.
Why did they do that because nobody was using it? Obviously.
They went from selling fifteen million VCRs annually and their
peak to seven hundred and fifty thousand units by twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, I don't think you know how vinyls having a comeback.
I just can't see VHS having to comeback.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
No, because you've got a fast forward and rech and
it was sometimes quite problematic. You had to know what
was on your VHS quite well so you could you'd
be fast forwarding and rewinding blind tapes for the same
cassette tapes.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
And then you would if you taped over it too
many times, it would just completely deteriorate and you wouldn't
be able to It would just be a muddled mess.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
It was a great day when tape players developed the
function where you could fast forward and it would find
the end of the track. Do you remember that when
that happened, because yeah, you on your tape plan.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
I remember the first tape player in one of my
dad's cars that had that, and you could just had
the skip thing. It would go to the next song
on the.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Itul fast forward to the next break. It knew when
the when the song would break. But some albums, like
Queen Greatest Hits, for example, there were some songs that
kind of carried on.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Thank Floyd did that. Yeah, prop of matter run straight
through someone sexer and said, this radio station sounds like VHS.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
That's been a case for some time.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Another one here, William Wright's we converted Our Families VHS's
to DVDs. There you go, Jerry, you could do that.
You can convert all your vhs' to DVDs.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Going to play the DVD on who's got a DVD player?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Solved all of your problems there, We converted our Families
vhs as the DVDs. Turns out Dad was recording the
sixty parts of movies.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Someone else said, these days the ads are more interesting.
I discovered adult material due to a VCR that kept
recording after the wrestling on Sky and played Emmanuel.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Who can forget a manual. That's right, because sky One
used to play the wrestling a and then they used
to have their adult content. After that.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
They need their audience.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yep, Jerry, and then the hold ikey breakfast.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Zoe has entered the studio confused. Yes, Zoe has entered
from studio B twenty two year old Zoe confused about
the conversation that we've been having for the last ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yes, so, but did you have a question when you
came in about the VHS.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
Well, you guys been talking about tabs or something. Yeah,
lots of rewind chat going on.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yes, you had a question about the rewind function on
the VHS.

Speaker 11 (33:56):
You're talking? Are you talking doing that with a remote?
Why are you talking?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Turning in? So it's a great question judgment. So initially
you would have, well, if you had a remote, yes,
that would be very flashed. Often you would have to
go up to the VCR itself and press rewind and
then at that point, because it's literal tape, and then
it would spin backwards. Now on the cassette. Sometimes you
didn't have the rewind function, so you would have to

(34:22):
eject the cassette, take a pencil, push it inside one
of the reels on the tape, and then turn it
backwards until the entire thing had gone back to the start.
Then you could start the album again.

Speaker 11 (34:32):
Damn and the Dinosaurs we want.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Well, the thing is with occasionally the tape would actually
a tape player would mangle a tape so the actual
tape would come out of the cassette play because you've
seen it a cassette tape.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, it's like two reels, goes from one reel to
the other.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
If you mangle it, well, all of the string, all
of the tape would come out, and then you'd have
to get a pencil and you'd have to manually wind
it back into cassette.

Speaker 11 (35:00):
But does that not hurt the tape?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yes, it does hurt the tape, and often that means
that you can't watch it or listen to it, depending
on if it's a cassette.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
And you had to be very careful putting it back
in as well, because if you're acident your twisted it,
then when you put it back in, it plays the
whole thing backwards and it's like you listen to something like.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And actually we used to do that. We used to
back because we heard that Stairway to Heaven. Yes, if
you played it backwards, said must we've seaten for another
compare performance paras sitting, and so we turned out we
flipped the reels around and played it in that way.
You could play it backwards. Yes, it was the way
of playing it backwards.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
So the things you did have it have it this though?
So if you finished, so say someone finished the movie,
then you wanted to watch it the next day, but
I hadn't rewound it. You had to sit there and
press rewind, and it would rewind an entire two hour
long movie back to the starting, and that could take
like ten to fifteen minutes.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
Would but how would it? So not it wouldn't take
the whole two hours of them a little.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Bit cooler than that fast forward, Yes, and rewind.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Rewind which was fast rewind, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
But especially if you took if you had a if
you it tape, Yeah, from a video store. Now do
you know what a video store is?

Speaker 11 (36:13):
Haven't personally gone to one?

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Though?

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Okay, okay, I.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Used to buy the actual tapes. You could rent them, yes,
you be a member of it, like video Easy for example,
and then you would cost you normally five bucks, yea
bucks for it to rent one overnight, and.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Then you of the movie the more it costs, and
then there'd be like three for ten dollars, And those
are the ones that came out to you.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Same.

Speaker 11 (36:30):
It's like on Amazon time now when you rent it, sort.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Of, except that you had to physically return it by
a certain date, and if you didn't you would get fined.
And even if you did return it on time, but
you hadn't rewound the tape, you would get fined for
not rewinding your VHS.

Speaker 11 (36:47):
But then what did the VHS employees find you?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
To sit there and find you?

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, if you were Matt Heath, you'd get a little
bit of tape and you'd put it over the top
of that tab and then you would insert your own
seat into famous movie.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Really.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, he used to insert his own scene into Star
Wars and then send it back to the video shop
and so people will be watching in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Bloody man, the things he used to do for fun.
I'm looking up on trade me. You can get them
for somewhere between seventy and one hundred dollars. I reckon
we get hold of the boss's credit card by a
VHS and a VCR. Give them to zign and see
if she can play a movie.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Jerry and Mini The Darchy Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The Hurdarchy Breakfast Podcast.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Something special is going on in christ Church right now.
It's bin and it's involved. It's a horticultural thing. I
mean there's a lot going on and at the moment
in christ Chips it's special to be honest, really having
a time.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah. The rugby teams doing pretty well, they of us.
That's nothing new, is it.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
They've got a new stadium.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
They have a new stadium and that isn't it.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
The canaber economy is going great guns.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
There was a sighting of the Canterbury panther last week.
We need to talk about that actually as well.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, yeah, And to top it all off, there has
been the discovery of an unusual apple in christ Church.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
They just get it all done there.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
It's known as a chimera apple and it's a cross
between two apples. It's it's two apples in one. It's
two different types of apple with a line going through.
Have you ever seen those cricket balls that they teach
that they give you that teach you how to swing bowl,
and they'll have different colors, you know, might be a
red and white side.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Or half red and then the other half tennis ball.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Sometimes yeah, maybe a yellow and a yellow and a red. Yep,
well this looks like that. One part of it looks
Granny Smithy and the other one looks like.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah. Well it is a brain burn, I believe. And
then it's a it's a it's a as you said,
a Shimira comera apple. The ref fruit forms when a
genetic mutation occurs, causing it to develop from cells within
two distinct backgrounds often feature a near perfect straight line
dividing two distinct colors, textures, and even flavors. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So apparently this one turned up at the Sunshine Corner
Market in christ Church and it was meant to be
a brain burn, but it turned up in a whole
bunch of brain burns. And people have been coming from
far and wide. So Heather, who owns the shop, she
said she'd never seen.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Anything like it and hear this sense of apples.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
She said. People have brought their family and to visit it.
There's talk that it's going to have a run for
the mayalty in christ Church next year? Apple?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Will it lasts still next year? How long does an
apple last?

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Well?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
What do you do with this thing? I mean, no
one's going to eat it.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
It's an idea taxiderm it.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think it needs to be celebrated, this apple. I
think this is exactly what we need at a time
like this.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I've got to be honest. If there was a light
entertainment TV's show Worth its Salt in this country, they
would get their host down there to eat that apple.
I'm live as we spent live on National TV. Not
since Shrek the Sheep was found has there been a
national emergency of such note for a light enfertainment show.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
This apple is going to bring people together. I can.
I can just feel it so here. They said, she's
trying to find ways to preserve it.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, what more would you do? Pickle it?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
You freeze that thing?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
When you you wouldn't freeze an apple? Would you not?
If you intend to eat it.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
At some point cryogenically freeze it?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Would you stew it?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
But you don't stew it?

Speaker 7 (40:22):
Would you a nice would.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Jerry and the night they breakfast?

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Time for it's academic? Give us a call now? Oh,
eight hundred, eight hundred four to eight, seven to five.
If you want to play, you'll just have to get
three questions correct out of five and you have forty
five seconds to do it. And if you do, you
will get your former high school on the much faunted
it's academic roll of Onumming.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I haven't a cdiculture for your culture. I did not
hear Zoe's former high school, Lynnwood College, on that, but
I do believe on theline this morning, Matthew from christ
you went to Lynwood College as well?

Speaker 11 (41:09):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
You?

Speaker 3 (41:10):
So?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Did did you go to school? Zoe?

Speaker 5 (41:13):
I'm not sure she is if we're the same age?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
How old are you Matthew? Forty one? Yes, you might
have actually been in the same class, I think, Oh,
so how old did you?

Speaker 7 (41:27):
Interesting?

Speaker 1 (41:27):
What do you look like? Okay, well, not a lot
of famous alumni coming out of that high school. But
your chance to change that, Matthew? Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yep? Okay, Matthew. Question number one for you? Phil Knight
is the guitarist for which ki We band?

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Is it the exponient?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
No, it's not. She had who wrote the ninth Who
wrote the eighteen eighty four novel The Adventures of Hucklebury.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Finn oh pass, Sorry.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Mark Twain. What year did Daniel loader when two Olympic
gold medals? Oh?

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Probably, I don't know. Two thousands?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, what are these questions? Ruder? I mean, poor old
Matthew he calls he's trying to represent Lindwood College, he's
doing his best. He's called Matthew.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
So you're blaming me and you don't put any of
the blame on Matthew.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Matthew at all?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Matthew, do you accept any of the blame? A?

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Yeah, yeah. The questions just aren't probably my.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Ear, nor do you want to hear the last turn
and see how you would have gone? Well, clementines, tangerines
and satsumas of varieties of what fruit?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Citrus of mandarin. I mean, I can't say he's wrong.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, the answer we're looking for in two thousand and four?
Who won the inaugural New Zealand idol?

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Oh? Pas, Sorry, I wouldn't know that.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Okay, I'm blaming Matthew then yeah, all right, And you
know what, it's always fault to the greater Linwood College
as a whole. I think disgraced, disgraced, fucking Uner College
would have got Jerry.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
And the Hotarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
We're talking before about the one in a million apple
with two distinctly different halves that has become a national
celebrity in christ People are coming from far in mind
to see this apple.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, a celebrity is someone that's celebrated, and at least
on this show, we're celebrating that apple. I don't think
there's ever been a more celebrated apple.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Well, the other part about this apple is I think
it just comes at a perfect time for New Zealand.
We're descending into winter. There's a lot of people that
are doing it tough at the moment. They were at
a cost of living crisis.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
And to know that despite all the things you're going through,
sickness in the family, there may be a little bit
of you know, some money worries, you know, health worries,
these kinds of things. To know that there's an apple
out there that's two different colors, it would just set
your mind at ease.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
No, I think it's I think the other thing is
maybe we need to this apple needs to make its
way around the world. Maybe we need to take it
to Iran or maybe Pakistan. Is part of the negotiations
between Iran and the States.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
It's a great point.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
It's an apple of joy. It brings peace to the world.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
It's a great point. I mean, I don't I haven't
been in those rooms where they're trying to broke of
those peace treaties in the Middle East lately. Yep, in
the past whatever. I can't talk about that, but lately,
I haven't been in those I don't know that they
don't have a two colored apple in there, but you'd
have to think they don't imagine that.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Imagine they're doing the negotiations. There a whole lot of
people on the table, and there said just we are
you going to pause for a second, because we're going
to Cecil. I'd like to introduce everyone to Cecil. You've
named it the well. I think it does need a name.
I mean, maybe Cecil's not the right name. Three for
eight three or eight hundred hardeck. You wat should this
twin colored apple be called one part of its greeny
smith By the looks of it, The other part is brayburn.

(44:59):
So you got the red and the green. But you
bring in the apple at a certain time and you say, behold, Cecil,
now look at this apple. Tell me what you think
about it, and everyone just stops for a second, when
they stop thinking about themselves and what they want, what
they need, and they start thinking about the marvels of
the universe.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
They zoom out. It would be akin to there's a
phenomenon when astronauts see the Earth for the first time
and they realize that all of the separations that we've
created here on Earth are entirely man made. They don't matter,
they're not really. When you zoom out to ten million feet,
you get to witness all of humanity, all that ever was,
or that ever could be. And you would have that

(45:37):
same experience looking at an apple that has two different colors.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, I think maybe that at the same time is
being produced with Cecil and the Iran US negotiations. They
should play middle as God is watching from a distance. Yep.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I can't think of anything else that they could play
in that moment. It is a one in a million
apple according to the headline. But there's been a text
that's come through. It reads, m apple grow here, Oh
from hawks Bay okay hates a running your parade. I'll

(46:12):
probably see a dozen of these a year just on
my orchards.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
What Yeah, Okay, so these are not reason not rere.
These these what were we calling them? The kimera kimera
apple apple with two types, the.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
One on a million apple. I suppose he's producing about
twelve million.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
I think the thing for me is we've consistently talked
on this show about being a group of people who
don't see color. So when I look at that apple,
I just see an apple man, Yeah, and that progress man.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I said you hated one half of that apple this
morning when you first saw it.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
You've got some names coming in. It should be called
Adam and Eve.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Oh yeah, but it's only one apple exactly. Yeah, Brandy
diff Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I just like a name for it, like just a
rather than a I mean, I suppose Shrek. I just
want one, you know, one name, like a person's name.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Cecila's, for example, Cecila is good. And I'm working next
door to Hillary's house on Cecil Road at the moment,
So you know a little bit of omenary there. And
then this text here. If Jason is getting reflux and
needs gaviscon tell him it's his coffee and nicotinea intake.
His liver is being overloaded trying to digest it. It's
a build up of acid and as upper occurs, replace
it with TA, which definitely has cafe, but not as much.
And as for the vaping, no comment cheers boys, Well.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
That seems unrelated, doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
It's a weird name for an apple too.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Jerry and Mania The Hdarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Jerry and Maniah catch the radio show from six till
ten weekdays.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
The Darchy Breakfast, the game where we name five by
nine people. You have to tell us whether they're dead
or like. Give us a call now, eight hundred Hydachy,
eight hundred four to eight, seven to five. We have
one space available. We need two callers.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
One space because what happens with these a lot of
these game show segments is that people call up way
too early and try and jump the cute. And we
want to make sure that everyone gets a fair chance
at this. So we're going to clear the lines and
then give people another chance to call in right now.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yep. And it's the one hundred dollars Bunnings voucher that
is up for grabs as always. And what I like
about the segment minight is the sportsmanship. Yes, it is
a paper together, I think you call it now.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
That's what I would call it. Yeah, it does. It
brings people together, like two different breeds of apple bred
into one.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
And here's the first person we're bringing to the party today.
It's Jack from Wellington. Morning. Good morning, How are you
going good? How are you going? Jack? With the swells
of the swells subsided?

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yet, I have no idea. I'm in a city, so
I can't really see the south coast.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Oh well great, I'm surprised you can't actually, because it's
like twelve meters. I'm surprised it hasn't made its way
into the city.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
But now just about did, didn't it.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
How's the That's what that sprinkle was?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, how's the will either in Wellington? Is it a
good day?

Speaker 8 (48:53):
It's a bit nippy, but it's not too windy, so
that's always good in Wellington.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Okay, Well, you're going to be tough to beat if
it's a good day down there. Tell me what do
you do for chrash Jack?

Speaker 5 (49:01):
I am mostly a tool guide.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah. See it's written as tool guide in our system,
and I thought there's no way, there's no way that
anyone is a tool guide. So I just had to I.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Think you get some guides who are tolls guide some tools. Yeah,
I would have thought. So where are you guiding people? Jack? Sorry?
Where are you guiding people?

Speaker 8 (49:24):
We do Wellington City tours, Lord of the Rings tours,
all sorts of different ones.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Favorite factoid to dish out to people on your tour.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Oh, I like telling people about the earthquake back in
eighteen fifty five. What a great quake that was. Is
that the one that pushed up Mirrorma?

Speaker 8 (49:43):
That's the one?

Speaker 11 (49:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Wow, Okay, well see we're already learning. We haven't even started. Brilliant.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
That was the last big one, wasn't it. Jack? All right,
let's go to Jesse, who is a christ Church truck driver.
Good morning, Jesse, how.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Are you not Tom band yourself?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Good frosty this morning? And christ Church? Jesse?

Speaker 5 (50:00):
A little bit frosty, but blue skies they're not too bad.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
That's just a quintessential christ Church wintersday, isn't it beautiful?
What's your favorite truck related fact? Jesse?

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Ah, they like to bring down a lot.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Okay, all right, did you want to test your buzzer?
It's your name there he is?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
And Jack.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
We didn't actually test your buzzer, Jack, would you like
to test it?

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Jack?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
There is okay Jesse versus Jack Wellington versus Christ Church first,
person Dead are Alive. One of this country's most recognized
sports broadcasters, Murray Deeca Dead are Alive, Jesse, Jack? I
think you just got in their first Merrideka is alive.
I like the way there's a kind of a question

(50:46):
mark there at the end of that, But yes, he
is alive. Eighty one years old, Merridica and using.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
The Duckworth, Lewis and Stern system, Jack is ahead wonder.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Eighty one years old thanks to a biomag magnetic underlay.
Person Number two Spinner's entire twenty year career with the
LA Lakers in the NBA. Kobe Bryant did her alive?

Speaker 5 (51:08):
Jesse?

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Jesse, you got in first? Kobe Bryant is I'm gonna
say dead forty one tragically?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah, all right? One ruder really excited that Kobe Bryant
did that.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
I was excited.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I've never been in the allegation of the game.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Person number three. It's one each famous WWE and WWF
during the late nineties and early two thousands, Stone Cold
Steve Austin Dead her alive? Jesse Jack? First?

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Is he dead?

Speaker 3 (51:38):
I'm gonna go to Jesse on this one.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
I'm gonna say he's alive.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Right, Jesse? Okay, so one Jesse Person number four, widely
recognized as one of the greatest actors of the twentieth century.
Jack Nicholson Jesse, Jesse.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
You're gonna say he's alive.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Jack Nichols centers Alive. He's nine years old, and Jesse's
taken it.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
Well, thank you, that was all I guess.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Here we go. You've won a one hundred dollar Bunnings
about to Jesse. Congratulations, Thank you very much. Thanks for
playing Dinner Alive. Thanks for listening to radio heating luck.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Jack's just lucky. The drawer sometimes, isn't it Where it goes,
That's the way she goes.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Jerry and Midnight the hold Ikey Breakfast, Me and Ruder
are leaving the studio because we are off to donate
some blood for National Blood Don't.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Wait, Yeah, get out of here, Get out of here.
Fell Let's don't worry. I'll hold down the fort back here.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Well station on here. We have already booked us in advance.
We booked a bloody important meeting a while ago, and
so we are leaving work and we booked a bloody
important meeting. We're leaving. I know you're trying to drive
me back.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
No, look, I don't care, but I know the boss
is fuman. I know the boss is for you mean.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
He should have looked, he should have looked in the calendar.
This has been in here for a week now. Yes,
it's a bloody important meeting. We need to go to
off site.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Hard to argue against. You are literally saving lives. Potentially
would encourage other people out there to have a crack
as well. In Z blood dot coated NZ, you can
have a look where the nearest place is to you
to donate.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I'm looking forward to the snacks and the goodies actually
after I do my donation. Thanks to arnetts've got the
tim Tama, got the Scotch finger, you got the Monte Carlo,
You've got the Kingston. You've got some shapes. I'll be
on the shapes. Chicken crumpies A much flavor for such
a little biscuit lavor.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
You can see.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
That's what I would say, not an ad.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Jerry and Midnight, the hold Ikey breakfast.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
For you latest sport headlines. Thanks to Export Ultra the
beer for here fingers are being pointed at coach Brendan
McCallum's culture setting in the England cricket side with Ben
Stokes captaincy Tenure teetering. Stokes is reportedly mulling whether to
stay on a skipper following the nightclub incident involving himself
and paceman Gus Atkinson currently under investigation, but former England

(53:56):
batsman and assistant coach Mark Ramprakash is question where the
coaches and all of this.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
You got Brenda MCCULLMBS number you I do. Can we
just give him a call and ask him ourselves.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
I think he'd love that right now. That's exactly what
he needs, people texting and asking him to come on
and justify. I mean, what has got to do with
the coach. He's set the rules. He set the rules
for twelve o'clock. You said that's the curfew if the
players go out, and why has that got to do
with the coach.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
I think for some reason they're blaming him for the
fact that they like to have a drink and like
to play golf in between test matches.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
But this has got nothing to do with that. That's
just got to do with some other kind of car
co captain James Fisher Harris has been replaced in the
front row by tennis our Smith due to a carf injury.
There is no timeline for his return to play. Lecha
Halasima's hamstring issue from the loss to the Panthers brings
Marata Nikorde into the second row. Mitch Barnette Kate Well

(54:48):
are absent due to state of origins. It's Jason Holland.
In other news, Jason Holland believes a Super Rugby title
is firmly within reach for the Hurricanes as he prepares
to depart the franchise again. Holland will take over as
head coach at the Blues in twenty twenty seven, but
first faces them in a semi final this week as
a Hurricane's assistant coach. He says returning to the Hurricanes

(55:12):
this season has shown how much the players have grown
since he left at the end of twenty twenty three.
And You've always said that my night, Hi.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Manicure, I have always said that. Sorry, I was way
laid out there, Buzzo. She was blocking me with a
fat arms.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
She's been doing a lot this morning, hasn't. He's China,
She's been doing some research on how to use a
VHS player. Years later on, she's going to be put
to the test. They're going to be a VHS cassette.
She has to put it inside the VHS player and
record with the G code a program and three days
til right.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
That's another We've got to go to that bloody important
meeting or we're.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Got to get out all right, get out of here,
you guys.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Hear Jerry and Maniah catch the radio show from six
till ten weekdays, The Hurdarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Jerry and Ruder have just disappeared off out of the studio.
They are off for a bloody important meeting. They are
donating blood and we're encouraging you to do so as well.
Insid blood dot coded in ZID. I've decided, well, I've
been tasked with staying behind to keep the station afloat
because God gave me the broader shoulders and joining me
to help me out is big Good morning, bick.

Speaker 9 (56:13):
How's it going morning and night? God've got lots of
buttons in front of me. Hope you pushed the right one, yes, wow.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Look you'll be right. I reckon? How did the alarm go?
Was a little bit early? This morning.

Speaker 9 (56:23):
No, I get up pretty early anyway. It's just kind
of I procrastinate on getting to work some mornings. But
I don't know. It was pretty cold on the On
the bus ride in this morning, I.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Noted that when you came in you dressed like you'rel
ready for an Arctic exploration.

Speaker 9 (56:34):
It's just, you know, at that point of sunrise, apparently
it's the coldest point of the morning as the sun's
coming up. As always darkest before the daor always darkest
before the dawns.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I've always said that. Yeah. So if you want to
book your bloody important meeting like Jerry and Ruder have
this morning, it's National Blood Donor Week. It INSID. Blood
dot coded INZID. Con donate plasma and blood. Book your
appointment at INZID, blood dot coded in ZID. If you
are hitting out there by the way, you get some snaps.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
Yeah, do they give you biscuits and a in a
barley sugar?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
That's right, they give you Tim Tam really, which I
was chastised for us today calling it Tim TAM's. It's
not Tim Tams. It's not Tim's tam.

Speaker 9 (57:11):
It's not a plural.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
It's Tim Tam. Scotch Finger, Monte Carlo Kingston and shaped
chicken Crimby's flavor.

Speaker 9 (57:19):
Oh see, I like a good Monte Carlo. That's the
one with the jam and the ic thing right. Oh
was it in the middle, Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Jerry in the Night the Hodarky Breakfast Chemical Brothers.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
On Radio Hodack. He actually the first band I overheard
on Radio Hodaki. Yeah. We don't have a frequency in
South Canterbury, so we know. Was growing up, I basically
never heard of the station. I'd heard about the boat
that rocked and things like that, but it wasn't until
I moved to Wellington that I heard Radio Headak. I
was like, that sounds like crap. I hon'ty. We ended
up working there and here we are all these all
these years later. I've got evidence that we were living

(57:52):
that we are living in a simulation. Are you familiar
with the simulation theory that we crap on about you?

Speaker 11 (57:58):
About this?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
So the latest simulation evidences. I was at a wedding
over the weekend and I mentioned briefly about the antics
that the brother of the groom got up to. I
don't want to speak them into a microphone because it
was a beautiful wedding, and he really brought them into disrepute.
But so I was playing golf yesterday and the mate
that I was playing golf with, I told him, you know,

(58:21):
I was telling him about what I've been up to
on the weekend. Blah blah blah. I told him a
few stories from the wedding again that I won't repeat
into a microphone here, and he, you know, we had
a good chuckle about it. He finishes the round of
golf with beer in the clubrooms and he goes, right,
I'm going to go. I'm off to a gig tonight.
Sat down gig at the Civic Theater. I was like, okay,
I can't remember a Leon Thomas. I think I want

(58:43):
to say young hip hop artist. Anyway, So he goes
and says down there. We then get a message from
the brother of the groom that I was just talking about.
He is sat next to my mate that we were
playing golf with. To make it even weirder, he it's
storm from my FM. And the brother the groom was

(59:04):
telling me how much he loved my FM on the
weekend and was like, do you know any of the
guys that work there? And I was like devlouseners. But
then I told him that I knew Storm. Then all
of a sudden I get to miss a photo of
the two of them come through in the moone box.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
That's crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Clearest example of simulation theory. I think I willed that into.

Speaker 9 (59:23):
Existence, was like speak it into an existence.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Because how would those two people. I haven't seen that guy.
He lives in Hamilton, but I saw him in christ Church.
Then I see the other guy out on the golf course.
I hadn't played golf with him in a long time,
and all of a sudden you find them sitting together
at the g Yeah, that's We've got to be living
in a simulation.

Speaker 9 (59:40):
So how does the simulation spit that out?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I think it's just it gets lazy every now and then.
So in my mind, it's a bunch of you know,
code like a video game, and every now and then
it's listening out for things to prompt the next thing
that should happen. And in this instance, it was listening
a little too close to me and then manifested two
people in my life right next to each other.

Speaker 9 (01:00:01):
Can we manifest a lot on one four million dollars
to be quite good?

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Time?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
You know what we tried last week that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Fame Jeremy Wells and Mania Stewart. Find them on Instagram
at Hodarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
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