June 28, 2026 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The Hurdar Keep Breakfast Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome to the first part of the Cherry, the first
podcast to see the sun, the first to see in
a new day of the day of our Lord. Oh
my goodness, the twenty ninth of June twenty twenty six,
le ninth of June.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Only one more day of Jane. I know that's that
is absolutely terrifying. As we arrived into the studio this morning,
we've awoken to the news that Ben Stokes has retired
mid Test match and now they're playing what I would
have to say is a pretty shit career's highlights package,
presumably because they didn't know who was about to retire.
(00:39):
They didn't, so they wouldn't have had this ready to go.
This isn't quite up to the This isn't quite up
to scratch this highlights package.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You've got red eyes? Have you been crying this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
For?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Across the situation?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Well, as a massive fan of Gingers, this is a
really difficult day of me, a massive fan of Gingers
and people that are born in one country and play
for another one. So yeah, Ben Stokes apparently announced to
that England cricket team.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Before the start of play. That's it.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I'm out. I'll talk more about it in the next
couple of days, which is probably going to be the
more interesting. But yeah, press release comes out at three
twenty five in the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Over there.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It's very nixt ball. He's already bowled ten overs in
a spell, Jerry, that's pretty hard, obviously, very next ball
he gets Zach Folks out and then New Zealand get
three hundred and seventy old a head and Amelia Gay
and who's the other one, Ben Ducket are about to
walk out because we were declaring and Stoke goes not today, Gay,
(01:40):
I'm going to be buddy opening the betting with Ben
Duckett and so Emilia Gay had to come out at
number six and Ben Stokes and Ben Stokes had it
very very fast thirty and then got out and then
he got out.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So he's never opened before, has he? I have no
memory of him.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Maybe the odd occasion where they trying to get quick
runs or something.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
A million game was brought in specifically to open. Yeah,
he is just an opening batsman.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So that's what's happened basically, and England need Turner in
seventy or to win, we need six wickets, so they're
probably faked.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Is this the last day?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Tomorrow is the last day?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So why would you retire? Like, why wouldn't you say
that you're retiring at the end of the game. Why
would you wait till like you've still got to score
three hundred and seventy three runs? Major distraction? Like you've
just got to do the job. You don't you announce
that you're going to retire before the game, yes, or
(02:36):
you announced at the end of a game, yes, between games, yeah,
but you don't not on the last day, like the
morning of the of the second xtly sorry, second to
last day.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
The theory is that he looked at it and went right,
I want you guys to pull this out for me,
your old mate Bennie. I'm out of guys, but by
the way.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
But by the way, opening batsman, and yeah, I'm going
to open batting as well in the bowling.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm going to make this about me in the batting,
going to make this completely and totally and utterly even
though the last however long, has been all about me
because of a nightclub incident after a curfew which I
came up with yeah, and then I broke it and
then and.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
If you don't like that, then I'll bugger off.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
To come back into the side. That's that's weird thinking
from my perspective. Yeah, always very unusual.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I we'll say cricket retirements are always a bit squirrely,
like Cane's one just happened at a real random time.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Why bother going on.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
That tour one of the weirdest.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, if you knew that that was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Then there was the Wagon one, but that was because
he was told this will be this will be it
for you, so you need to tell everyone or not.
Then there was the I think the Saudi one where
he said, hey, this upcoming test will be my last.
I don't mind that because that can you know, at
least everyone's going into the game knowing what the score is.
But this one's weird because you're halfway through and I
(04:01):
wouldn't be surprised if he'd been told. I wonder if
they're like, we're reinstating you, but we're still going on
with the investigation into what happened or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So you say, you think maybe they're so we'll reinstate
you for a game and then you will and then
we're going to fire you at the end of that game.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Or like we'll see how we go, and then halfway
through the game maybe they go, hey, we've nah, because
why would they do that.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
That's very distracting too, I reckon because you know, after
that first test and all the rumors that came out
that he was going to retire. Yeah, I reckon. He's thought, Nah,
I want one more go. I don't want to go
out like this. Yeah, I don't want to go out.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We ain't going on like that.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Ain't going out, We ain't going out. And he said,
oh no, I'll come back. But in his mind he's like, nah,
it's just going to play one so I could have
one more go.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
That's pretty weird thinking, don't you, reckon, Well.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Would you want to go out as the guy that
broke the curfew? No?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hold on, it's a team game. Because it's a team game.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
To some people that has a team game.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Do you listen to the as the great Cricketer?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Those guys are good, good, good cricket podcasts.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
If you're looking for one, and if you're looking for
a cricket podcast, you.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Haven't found the great cricketer.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I don't know what's wrong with it, but they they
talk about the English cricket teams, two guys trying to
get statues for themselves and stocks.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Like the whole ashes that was, the things like this.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Is not a team, that is the two guys trying
to get a statute.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think that's the way England cricket's always been. I
think there's a bit of this because of the fact
that it's actually run by the counties. So the ECB,
the England cricket ball doesn't really have a lot of power.
The counties have always been more powerful because they were
around before the ECB was around, if you know what
I mean. So county cricket was it was quite something
(05:44):
and they control, They used to own the players, and
it was professional before international international cricket was professional. So
they used to be paid by counties. So it was
kind of weird.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Yeah, when you're saying counties, I keep thinking of count.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah they're not.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
They got paid by Carol Brain.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Was playing them.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Yeah, Well that's why the that's why rugby has always
been a little bit you know, I sort of underfunded
out there in.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
County's moneyco because they just pouring all their money into
English club cricket. Yeah, bloody star, I know it's a
crockod ship, you know, spirit of thought for the for
the region that they're absolutely doing it tough and now
he's everyone getting paid millions to go and play with it.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Do you see cricket heavy podcast swimming?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But uh, Kumar Sakara is playing village cricket cet.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
He just loves it, loves playing cricket. There are guys
out there like that. Yeah, there are guys out there
who who bowled their last ball and I never want
Chris Martin. I never want to see a cricket field
ever again for the rest of my life. Yeah right,
I've had it with cricket, and there are guys out
there who just loved the feeling of adding.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Is Chatfield played club cricket till the mid sixties or
some ship?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah till recently the nine I express.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The craziest one to me is if you watch local
rugby league around Auckland there are former Warriors and like
fringe Warriors players still playing at.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Like forty and like cracket.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I get you can you can wander out there, no
stretching and just have a bit of a bat, but
lining up and defending against you know, amateur league players.
There's one hundred and forty kilo dudes coming.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Off the back fence and all sorts.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, it was nice that New Zealand has made a
guard of honor for him.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Drinking. That's what he wanted drinking.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's why he came out and had a whack.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Oh yeah, they're going to show him get out, Yeah
they will. Oh that that he broke Bloody O'Rourke's finger,
smashed folks for sex. Really good. I nearly got out
then as well. Then there was a really good shot
off Nathan Smith. That one there, oh glorious, and did't
(07:53):
show him getting out. He did get out, got thirty
off about twenty balls. Okay, so that's weird too.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Well, I think that's him going.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I want to make sure that I get out onto
the pitch.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Here.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Is he going to turn up tomorrow now he's retired,
he'll be that he'll be drunk.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Man, there's another good point.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Help me fucked. He's going out tonight for a big
night only till midnight.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean, that's why I find it weird, Like the
game is not over.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
He'll be on the persn'.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Weird we're on the person and they'll be like, well,
hang on, mate, we've still.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Got a care for you. I know you've retired.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The difference between that announcement of retirement and Came Williamson
and that in that room it came Wllison in that
hotel room with nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
On the walls, a couple of mates. It's been really good.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I just sort of thought, I don't I don't want
to play anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
George Albert Junior crying.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I mean, you'd say Came Williamson. At the time, I
was like, oh, that's the end of that series. But
ever since Came Williamson retired in New Zealand cricket team
up and up.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Are we better for having Kan Williamson retired?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Well, I don't know, but we've won. We're gonna win
this Test and we won the other Test without.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Him, so he missed out the India series that we
won three. Now, yeah, something something's happening there, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
We've broken free from the shackles of Cain Williamson.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Finally was it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Everyone else just goes, oh, Kane's in the team, so
I don't have to do as much.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Maybe, Yeah, because he's a.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Great New Zealander and a great player and also very
kind of the opposite I think of Ben Stokes. Yeah,
I would describe Kane Williams and as the opposite of
Ben Stakes. So he's not a great player.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, no, No, he's an incredible player, one of the
great all rounders of all time.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
In fact, in terms of personality, you couldn't have two
guys that were more different.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, but if Jacques Callis didn't exists, he would have
been the greatest Ben Stokes.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
So he can be the best all rounder for mine.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Jacques Sallis, Jacques Kallis is the greatest cricket player of
all time and I'll ride that one into the rocks.
You can make any kind of statistical argument for him
that you would like to. He also looks like a
truck driver, you know. He looks like he pull up
to that your bobby carves away or something. And then
on the weekends he goes out and he plays cricket
(10:05):
for South Africa. Has he ever done in an interview,
I haven't seen one.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't know if he's ever done in an interview,
and I wouldn't be surprised if I found out he
was playing for his local Gazulu.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Na Doll Sharks.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Maybe accidentally, maybe he just stumbled a cross.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He's a kind of guy, never played, never pick up
a ball, never.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And of course rug was he rugging it was rugging
it around, rugg. He's a rug doctor, a rug doctor eleven.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
This is another thing that came Williams and wouldn't have done.
Ben Stokes currently being interviewed on the boundary right in
front of the remaining English fans and there's three of them.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Brody, I don't know. I can't remember that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Wardy, Brody and Stokes. He works and folks. I don't
think camera had done that. He wouldn't have stood in
front of the thing with Scotty Jay and no.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Ben Stokes related question though, because obviously he was losing,
he was thinner on top. He must have gone to Turkey,
but now he's gone back to a Kenner. If I
went to Turkey and had this luscious hair line, oh yeah,
I would not have then gone to a Kenner. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, maybe it didn't work very well, Oh yeah, I
see what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yeah, or maybe it brought the kenner back into play.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Maybe he was so thin that the kenner wouldn't work
because he just looked.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
It looked more like a fried Tark than Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, and then post Turkey he's exercising his right to
deploy the kenner.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Perhaps perhaps, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
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Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
So, anyway, I probably won the test match in the series.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
That will be good. Well ever, great to send him
out on the bloss good.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I think that's what's happening again.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Great player, fiery competitor. You'd love to have him on
your team, and he would have had a long and
illustrious career for.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Cricket World Cup final in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
That's probably about who we need to love him.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Oh, this is the first time I've ever seen this
again since it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Haven't I was forced to watch it a while ago
by A c Lang.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
This is the bit.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That was a bit where he dived and insmestable. I mean,
he's been great you've got to say for England, fantastic.
He's been great and and you know, having Bears, I
think they've formed a great combo with the bears ball thing,
make cricket, make cricket interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Cricket great again, exciting.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, and he's always a he's got a he's a competitor.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
He his competitor is a gamer. But he but.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Basball seemed to come entirely undone when Alex Carrey just
stood up to the stumps, that seemed to be the
death of it. And then they were like, oh, we're
not going to baseball anymore. I think that's part of
why Stokes don't want to play anymore. Like if we're
not going to baseball it, what.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Are we doing?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He did a bit of basball today, didn't he.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
He's trying trying to bears a bit of ball and
the way that they were trying to get around the
keeper being a bit of cuddling there, keep it being
right up there, trying some scoops. Yeah, I think scooping it.
Oh yeah, that's quite a good tichnum.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's scooping.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's quite a good ticchnique. I think I think the
basball I think the baseball is a good, good way
of going about things. It's just if you just say
everyone has to do that, it doesn't quite work. You
just got to do it if you feel like it.
You've got to play baseball. Idea is play how you
feel like playing at the time.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
If you have the basball within you, then let it out.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I bet this family that is kissing.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Someone's family. Nah, surely someone's fairly.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And I thank goodness, we're going to see you again.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
No, the i Pl've got another i PL contract. The
first time he said his son in a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And then what's on?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
He got on it and uhyl, it's only Sam.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
He's gonna be a bit of a wander around.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
He is.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
He's taking a victory lap.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He's going to do a victory lap.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Well, he's not going to.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
This is This would never happen in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, it would not happen in New Zealand. Maybe tomorrow
after the game, after we've after we've wheeled a taxidomid
camel into the stands.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Oh no, he's not knowing a victory lip.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
He's just going over all right, how judgment you?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I like what Ross Taylor did when he said I'm
just going to play this last series against Bangladish and
they checked him the ball and he got a wicket.
Yeahs last ball. And it was funny because he can't
bowl like I can almost bowl as well as Rost.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Jeez, hold on, hold on, hang on?
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Did you reckon you were going to beat in the
foot race other day?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I reckon Rod Stewart, Rod Shirt?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, you think you're gonna beat Rod Shirt and I've
got Stewart.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, I don't think you've got it. And I don't
think you can bowl better than Ross Taylor?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Can Ruder bowl better than Ross Taylor? How would you
taste that? Just six on the sticks? I just get
Ross Taylor out open wicket.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, there's no way I'm backing ros.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I do thant you guys would leave that alone?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, No, it's a big claim. He's he's bowled a
lot and a really good batsman ship last couple of ship.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
A Test match? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Is he got a wicket?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
You've been kind?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Do you think you could get a Test wicket? Do
you reckon? Who get an under sixteen's wicket? Like playing
under sixth.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Day would be the only way if they Yeah, skied
it underestimated the fact I had no pace on anything
at all. What do you bowl by the way right
o manco?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
What do you do with the ball though? What do
you try to.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Try and get it?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
That's just right?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Arm slow? Very okay?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Doesn't write I try and put any work on the ball.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Nope, nope, just try and get it down another okay
right arms slow and the old lad beat them in
the step you know, the unco step that Lance Skins
used to do.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Bowling off the wrong foot?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
One of those you bowl off the wrong foot?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Do you bowl of a different for every delivery.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I feel like what we need to do is after
the show, to company of this podcast, we'll get you
on a slow and I'll get my camera slow mate,
and we'll get you bowling a ball out here in this.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
We don't need to do that.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
We got just so.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Whether or not you are a better bowler than Ross Taylor, they.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Just put it up and rhetoricans is a bit of
bowler than Ross Taylor?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Es or no yours?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Please, I haven't got I haven't got my cricket yet.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You don't need don't you don't have any cricket? Get
I mean if you don't tie yourself up in your
own shoes and trip over yourself bowling, I'll be your amazed.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You might be the only person to blow a toe
out in the in an office rud to take.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
A test wicket.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
No, yeah, yep, I'm sweating now.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So we'll film me after in slow make ye and
then we'll send that off to Robolters again.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Send it to Ross Taylor. This guy thinks he's a
bit thanks your shat, Ross, jeez.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Okay, well then now that'll be good.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm looking forward to this. Forget about the radio show.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Let's just do this for the morning.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Okay, just play music, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome to the first part of the Cherry, the first
podcast to see the sun, the first to see in
a new day of the day of our Lord. Oh
my goodness, the twenty ninth of June twenty twenty six,
le ninth of June.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Only one more day of Jane. I know that's that
is absolutely terrifying. As we arrived into the studio this morning,
we've awoken to the news that Ben Stokes has retired
mid Test match and now they're playing what I would
have to say is a pretty shit career's highlights package,
presumably because they didn't know who was about to retire.
(00:39):
They didn't, so they wouldn't have had this ready to go.
This isn't quite up to the This isn't quite up
to scratch this highlights package.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You've got red eyes? Have you been crying this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
For?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Across the situation?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Well, as a massive fan of Gingers, this is a
really difficult day of me, a massive fan of Gingers
and people that are born in one country and play
for another one. So yeah, Ben Stokes apparently announced to
that England cricket team.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Before the start of play. That's it.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I'm out. I'll talk more about it in the next
couple of days, which is probably going to be the
more interesting. But yeah, press release comes out at three
twenty five in the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Over there.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It's very nixt ball. He's already bowled ten overs in
a spell, Jerry, that's pretty hard, obviously, very next ball
he gets Zach Folks out and then New Zealand get
three hundred and seventy old a head and Amelia Gay
and who's the other one, Ben Ducket are about to
walk out because we were declaring and Stoke goes not today, Gay,
(01:40):
I'm going to be buddy opening the betting with Ben
Duckett and so Emilia Gay had to come out at
number six and Ben Stokes and Ben Stokes had it
very very fast thirty and then got out and then
he got out.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So he's never opened before, has he? I have no
memory of him.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Maybe the odd occasion where they trying to get quick
runs or something.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
A million game was brought in specifically to open. Yeah,
he is just an opening batsman.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So that's what's happened basically, and England need Turner in
seventy or to win, we need six wickets, so they're
probably faked.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Is this the last day?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Tomorrow is the last day?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So why would you retire? Like, why wouldn't you say
that you're retiring at the end of the game. Why
would you wait till like you've still got to score
three hundred and seventy three runs? Major distraction? Like you've
just got to do the job. You don't you announce
that you're going to retire before the game, yes, or
(02:36):
you announced at the end of a game, yes, between games, yeah,
but you don't not on the last day, like the
morning of the of the second xtly sorry, second to
last day.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
The theory is that he looked at it and went right,
I want you guys to pull this out for me,
your old mate Bennie. I'm out of guys, but by
the way.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
But by the way, opening batsman, and yeah, I'm going
to open batting as well in the bowling.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm going to make this about me in the batting,
going to make this completely and totally and utterly even
though the last however long, has been all about me
because of a nightclub incident after a curfew which I
came up with yeah, and then I broke it and
then and.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
If you don't like that, then I'll bugger off.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
To come back into the side. That's that's weird thinking
from my perspective. Yeah, always very unusual.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I we'll say cricket retirements are always a bit squirrely,
like Cane's one just happened at a real random time.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Why bother going on.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
That tour one of the weirdest.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, if you knew that that was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Then there was the Wagon one, but that was because
he was told this will be this will be it
for you, so you need to tell everyone or not.
Then there was the I think the Saudi one where
he said, hey, this upcoming test will be my last.
I don't mind that because that can you know, at
least everyone's going into the game knowing what the score is.
But this one's weird because you're halfway through and I
(04:01):
wouldn't be surprised if he'd been told. I wonder if
they're like, we're reinstating you, but we're still going on
with the investigation into what happened or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So you say, you think maybe they're so we'll reinstate
you for a game and then you will and then
we're going to fire you at the end of that game.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Or like we'll see how we go, and then halfway
through the game maybe they go, hey, we've nah, because
why would they do that.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
That's very distracting too, I reckon because you know, after
that first test and all the rumors that came out
that he was going to retire. Yeah, I reckon. He's thought, Nah,
I want one more go. I don't want to go
out like this. Yeah, I don't want to go out.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We ain't going on like that.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Ain't going out, We ain't going out. And he said,
oh no, I'll come back. But in his mind he's like, nah,
it's just going to play one so I could have
one more go.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
That's pretty weird thinking, don't you, reckon, Well.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Would you want to go out as the guy that
broke the curfew? No?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hold on, it's a team game. Because it's a team game.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
To some people that has a team game.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Do you listen to the as the great Cricketer?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Those guys are good, good, good cricket podcasts.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
If you're looking for one, and if you're looking for
a cricket podcast, you.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Haven't found the great cricketer.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I don't know what's wrong with it, but they they
talk about the English cricket teams, two guys trying to
get statues for themselves and stocks.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Like the whole ashes that was, the things like this.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Is not a team, that is the two guys trying
to get a statute.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think that's the way England cricket's always been. I
think there's a bit of this because of the fact
that it's actually run by the counties. So the ECB,
the England cricket ball doesn't really have a lot of power.
The counties have always been more powerful because they were
around before the ECB was around, if you know what
I mean. So county cricket was it was quite something
(05:44):
and they control, They used to own the players, and
it was professional before international international cricket was professional. So
they used to be paid by counties. So it was
kind of weird.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Yeah, when you're saying counties, I keep thinking of count.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah they're not.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
They got paid by Carol Brain.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Was playing them.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Yeah, Well that's why the that's why rugby has always
been a little bit you know, I sort of underfunded
out there in.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
County's moneyco because they just pouring all their money into
English club cricket. Yeah, bloody star, I know it's a
crockod ship, you know, spirit of thought for the for
the region that they're absolutely doing it tough and now
he's everyone getting paid millions to go and play with it.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Do you see cricket heavy podcast swimming?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But uh, Kumar Sakara is playing village cricket cet.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
He just loves it, loves playing cricket. There are guys
out there like that. Yeah, there are guys out there
who who bowled their last ball and I never want
Chris Martin. I never want to see a cricket field
ever again for the rest of my life. Yeah right,
I've had it with cricket, and there are guys out
there who just loved the feeling of adding.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Is Chatfield played club cricket till the mid sixties or
some ship?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah till recently the nine I express.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The craziest one to me is if you watch local
rugby league around Auckland there are former Warriors and like
fringe Warriors players still playing at.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Like forty and like cracket.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I get you can you can wander out there, no
stretching and just have a bit of a bat, but
lining up and defending against you know, amateur league players.
There's one hundred and forty kilo dudes coming.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Off the back fence and all sorts.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, it was nice that New Zealand has made a
guard of honor for him.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Drinking. That's what he wanted drinking.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's why he came out and had a whack.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Oh yeah, they're going to show him get out, Yeah
they will. Oh that that he broke Bloody O'Rourke's finger,
smashed folks for sex. Really good. I nearly got out
then as well. Then there was a really good shot
off Nathan Smith. That one there, oh glorious, and did't
(07:53):
show him getting out. He did get out, got thirty
off about twenty balls. Okay, so that's weird too.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Well, I think that's him going.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I want to make sure that I get out onto
the pitch.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Here.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Is he going to turn up tomorrow now he's retired,
he'll be that he'll be drunk.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Man, there's another good point.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Help me fucked. He's going out tonight for a big
night only till midnight.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean, that's why I find it weird, Like the
game is not over.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
He'll be on the persn'.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Weird we're on the person and they'll be like, well,
hang on, mate, we've still.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Got a care for you. I know you've retired.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The difference between that announcement of retirement and Came Williamson
and that in that room it came Wllison in that
hotel room with nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
On the walls, a couple of mates. It's been really good.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I just sort of thought, I don't I don't want
to play anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
George Albert Junior crying.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I mean, you'd say Came Williamson. At the time, I
was like, oh, that's the end of that series. But
ever since Came Williamson retired in New Zealand cricket team
up and up.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Are we better for having Kan Williamson retired?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Well, I don't know, but we've won. We're gonna win
this Test and we won the other Test without.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Him, so he missed out the India series that we
won three. Now, yeah, something something's happening there, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
We've broken free from the shackles of Cain Williamson.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Finally was it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Everyone else just goes, oh, Kane's in the team, so
I don't have to do as much.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Maybe, Yeah, because he's a.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Great New Zealander and a great player and also very
kind of the opposite I think of Ben Stokes. Yeah,
I would describe Kane Williams and as the opposite of
Ben Stakes. So he's not a great player.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, no, No, he's an incredible player, one of the
great all rounders of all time.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
In fact, in terms of personality, you couldn't have two
guys that were more different.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, but if Jacques Callis didn't exists, he would have
been the greatest Ben Stokes.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
So he can be the best all rounder for mine.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Jacques Sallis, Jacques Kallis is the greatest cricket player of
all time and I'll ride that one into the rocks.
You can make any kind of statistical argument for him
that you would like to. He also looks like a
truck driver, you know. He looks like he pull up
to that your bobby carves away or something. And then
on the weekends he goes out and he plays cricket
(10:05):
for South Africa. Has he ever done in an interview,
I haven't seen one.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't know if he's ever done in an interview,
and I wouldn't be surprised if I found out he
was playing for his local Gazulu.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Na Doll Sharks.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Maybe accidentally, maybe he just stumbled a cross.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He's a kind of guy, never played, never pick up
a ball, never.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And of course rug was he rugging it was rugging
it around, rugg. He's a rug doctor, a rug doctor eleven.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
This is another thing that came Williams and wouldn't have done.
Ben Stokes currently being interviewed on the boundary right in
front of the remaining English fans and there's three of them.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Brody, I don't know. I can't remember that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Wardy, Brody and Stokes. He works and folks. I don't
think camera had done that. He wouldn't have stood in
front of the thing with Scotty Jay and no.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Ben Stokes related question though, because obviously he was losing,
he was thinner on top. He must have gone to Turkey,
but now he's gone back to a Kenner. If I
went to Turkey and had this luscious hair line, oh yeah,
I would not have then gone to a Kenner. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, maybe it didn't work very well, Oh yeah, I
see what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yeah, or maybe it brought the kenner back into play.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Maybe he was so thin that the kenner wouldn't work
because he just looked.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
It looked more like a fried Tark than Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, and then post Turkey he's exercising his right to
deploy the kenner.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Perhaps perhaps, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
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Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
So, anyway, I probably won the test match in the series.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
That will be good. Well ever, great to send him
out on the bloss good.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I think that's what's happening again.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Great player, fiery competitor. You'd love to have him on
your team, and he would have had a long and
illustrious career for.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Cricket World Cup final in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
That's probably about who we need to love him.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Oh, this is the first time I've ever seen this
again since it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Haven't I was forced to watch it a while ago
by A c Lang.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
This is the bit.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That was a bit where he dived and insmestable. I mean,
he's been great you've got to say for England, fantastic.
He's been great and and you know, having Bears, I
think they've formed a great combo with the bears ball thing,
make cricket, make cricket interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Cricket great again, exciting.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, and he's always a he's got a he's a competitor.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
He his competitor is a gamer. But he but.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Basball seemed to come entirely undone when Alex Carrey just
stood up to the stumps, that seemed to be the
death of it. And then they were like, oh, we're
not going to baseball anymore. I think that's part of
why Stokes don't want to play anymore. Like if we're
not going to baseball it, what.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Are we doing?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He did a bit of basball today, didn't he.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
He's trying trying to bears a bit of ball and
the way that they were trying to get around the
keeper being a bit of cuddling there, keep it being
right up there, trying some scoops. Yeah, I think scooping it.
Oh yeah, that's quite a good tichnum.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's scooping.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's quite a good ticchnique. I think I think the
basball I think the baseball is a good, good way
of going about things. It's just if you just say
everyone has to do that, it doesn't quite work. You
just got to do it if you feel like it.
You've got to play baseball. Idea is play how you
feel like playing at the time.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
If you have the basball within you, then let it out.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I bet this family that is kissing.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Someone's family. Nah, surely someone's fairly.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And I thank goodness, we're going to see you again.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
No, the i Pl've got another i PL contract. The
first time he said his son in a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And then what's on?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
He got on it and uhyl, it's only Sam.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
He's gonna be a bit of a wander around.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
He is.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
He's taking a victory lap.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He's going to do a victory lap.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Well, he's not going to.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
This is This would never happen in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, it would not happen in New Zealand. Maybe tomorrow
after the game, after we've after we've wheeled a taxidomid
camel into the stands.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Oh no, he's not knowing a victory lip.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
He's just going over all right, how judgment you?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I like what Ross Taylor did when he said I'm
just going to play this last series against Bangladish and
they checked him the ball and he got a wicket.
Yeahs last ball. And it was funny because he can't
bowl like I can almost bowl as well as Rost.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Jeez, hold on, hold on, hang on?
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Did you reckon you were going to beat in the
foot race other day?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I reckon Rod Stewart, Rod Shirt?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, you think you're gonna beat Rod Shirt and I've
got Stewart.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, I don't think you've got it. And I don't
think you can bowl better than Ross Taylor?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Can Ruder bowl better than Ross Taylor? How would you
taste that? Just six on the sticks? I just get
Ross Taylor out open wicket.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, there's no way I'm backing ros.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I do thant you guys would leave that alone?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, No, it's a big claim. He's he's bowled a
lot and a really good batsman ship last couple of ship.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
A Test match? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Is he got a wicket?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
You've been kind?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Do you think you could get a Test wicket? Do
you reckon? Who get an under sixteen's wicket? Like playing
under sixth.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Day would be the only way if they Yeah, skied
it underestimated the fact I had no pace on anything
at all. What do you bowl by the way right
o manco?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
What do you do with the ball though? What do
you try to.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Try and get it?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
That's just right?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Arm slow? Very okay?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Doesn't write I try and put any work on the ball.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Nope, nope, just try and get it down another okay
right arms slow and the old lad beat them in
the step you know, the unco step that Lance Skins
used to do.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Bowling off the wrong foot?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
One of those you bowl off the wrong foot?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Do you bowl of a different for every delivery.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I feel like what we need to do is after
the show, to company of this podcast, we'll get you
on a slow and I'll get my camera slow mate,
and we'll get you bowling a ball out here in this.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
We don't need to do that.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
We got just so.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Whether or not you are a better bowler than Ross Taylor, they.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Just put it up and rhetoricans is a bit of
bowler than Ross Taylor?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Es or no yours?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Please, I haven't got I haven't got my cricket yet.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You don't need don't you don't have any cricket? Get
I mean if you don't tie yourself up in your
own shoes and trip over yourself bowling, I'll be your amazed.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You might be the only person to blow a toe
out in the in an office rud to take.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
A test wicket.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
No, yeah, yep, I'm sweating now.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So we'll film me after in slow make ye and
then we'll send that off to Robolters again.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Send it to Ross Taylor. This guy thinks he's a
bit thanks your shat, Ross, jeez.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Okay, well then now that'll be good.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm looking forward to this. Forget about the radio show.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Let's just do this for the morning.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Okay, just play music, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay Jerry and Maniah. Catch the radio show from six
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