March 8, 2026 ā¢ 19 mins
Today on the pod the guys catch up with Dan from the Black Seeds. He tells us what they've been up to recently, and talks about their upcoming performance at Synthony.
MÄnuka Phuel SYNTHONY Festival returns to the Auckland Domain on Saturday 21 March 2026.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Daniel Weatman from The Black Seeds joins us this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Daniel, how are you im good? Thank you? Yeah, very good.
Thanks for coming in.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I hear you've got the morning off your normal job
this morning to do the to do?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Are you doing the rounds or just you guys exclusively?
Just to you guys. Wow, we don't wait what we are.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're super lucky and your work normally, Daniel, is I.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Do height installs. Supervise some young lads to do high
installs like installing excess letters to your roofs, anchors on
the roofs, pathways and stuff like that. So a lot
of hepwork.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
So like the guys, there's some of them out there
at the moment repelling down the side of the building.
I think they're cleaning the windows. Yeah, but that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, I don't supervise that. I used to hang off buildings,
but I don't know's it's only so much of that
you can do.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I used to get very nervous doing that day you
really Yeah we're afraid of heights?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, well yeah, what a strange profession to go into
if you're afraid of heights.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I kind of fell into it really. I was
working for a sign installation company and the guy said, hey,
we're going to I'm going to pull all the boys
through their tickets to do irata. That's one of the
seats that you can get. And I said, yeah, I'll
do it. And I didn't really think about it enough.
I knew we were going to be hanging off buildings,
(01:28):
but it's yeah, it's quite complicated. It's in the tense.
Five days of training and yeah, I did it. And
then I guess as you you know, you hang off buildings,
you get used to that feeling of the fair and
then once you're there where you just got to do
the work and kind of look at what you're doing
in front of you rather than looking down.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, have you seen that thing on Netflix, that guy
that Alex Honald, the free solo guy. Have you seen
that he climbed I have Type one O one is
like the second biggest building in the world. That is terrifying.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean he's next level though, but just this the stress.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That like the butthole puckering when you're watching this and
then the drone shots around it as someone who's been
up like, what did you think when you were watching
it bring back some trick?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, it definitely brings it back, and you feel it
in your body for sure. I mean yeah, I mean
that's he's a unique individual, isn't he. Yeah, but you
would have to be. I think it's I think it's
a great thing to do to face your fears, such
as anything in life and when you're hanging off a
building and having to use your tools and do the job.
(02:33):
I think I think it's helped me in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I like to face my fears, Daniel, but generally
not in a physical sense. So I think like I'm
facing them. Well, I think in a mental sense, you know,
like things.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
That you worry about.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But physically I feel like that's my that's my brain
saying you shouldn't be up there doing that, and your
brain does right, and my brain is right, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So you just like to think about them rather than
do them.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, there's a lot I mean in a broadcasting sense,
you know, where you're worried about how something might play out,
how that might affect you.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Your for the wrangles.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Then yeah, then that's something that you can face and realize.
Oh okay, well I was always going to survive that.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, it's funny because that's what I was thinking when
I came to the interview. It's always a bit of
nerve wrecking to come and speak, but you know, you
have to do it. And I think it's the same
as ab sailing. I had to go over the bit,
I had to do the job. I had to get
over the building and facing that fear was great.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Is there going to be any ab sailing that you
could incorporate into the Black Seeds performance perhaps?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I mean, have you considered a concert from the side
of a building.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I saw Jane's Addiction at Lolapalooza not long ago, and
they had people on these like like strings basically strings probably,
and they were just flying out into the crowd out
dressed in kind of bondage gear as they would you
(04:04):
and and sort of getting kind of and some were
attached like to this skin like.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, it was quite full on.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Any plans for that for the Black Seeds.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Through the skin, through the skin like like hooks, hooks
through the skin, and they were they were been flowing out.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Wow, the whole the whole game.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I love that j adiction. I mean that would have
been that sounds amazing, But for the Seeds probably not.
I get a bit nerdy when I go to gigs
and see how they're rigged up and there's this, you know,
all the lighting gets rigged up by reggas who do
EBB sailing. Usually I sort of check out that. But
(04:49):
for the Seeds, no. I mean, going back to when
I was like eight, my parents took me to see
Lionel Richie and he had that song dancing on the
ceiling and then half of the alder, half of the
people that were playing on stage actually got pulled up
on wires like that.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
At the end of the concert. Yeah, it was quite
where did you see Lionel Richard Western Springs?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah it at Lionel's Linel was just like Linel loomed large.
That would have been like eighty five eighty six. Ye
vibe man, he loomed large of over nineteen eighty five
eighty six. And he's on the other world at the
time as well.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Just after that, I mean, he put the whole thing together,
didn't he.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Linel basically yeah, Lionel, Lionel We interviewed Lionel the while back,
and he is one of the nicest, most charming people
you'll ever meet in your entire He's one of the
you know what the with the list of kind of
celebrities that you meet, the real top of the top,
like the Linel Riches of the world, the nicest people.
(05:56):
They are always like the AAA's are always the nice,
most charming, like ridiculous people you've ever met. And they
just have a gift. They'll remember your name. They'll call
you your name during the interview in order like you're
sort of overwhelmed, you know, is your name, and seems
to keep remembering it the whole time during the interview.
(06:16):
And then I find that it's not kind of the
case with everybody, but but guys like him, You're like,
oh man, you've got the gift.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Like the now, I want to know who was the worst?
Can you say?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, No, I'll openly say I think it's I think
it's fair.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Remember Barker, really exactly Barker. He's on flight of.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
The concourse, the flat mate.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think, yeah, well here that here the bandana, and
he was like the American.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I think he's Canadian, such a Dick, and it was like,
what is up with that guy?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
He turned up?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He turned up just like you did today, Daniel, exactly
the same and.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Repelled into the building and.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Was here to promote something like he was wanting to
sell tickets to a show and just kind of acted like,
I don't know, like he just did not want to
be here at all and was a real we're just asking,
just trying to have a chat like we're having now,
and he just shut everything down, like completely shut everything.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Was like, oh, you're coming here to promote your thing.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
We don't really care that much about ash, Like I
don't really care that much about as chat. Always happy
to chalk, and he was like, man, it was weird.
And then afterwards we chatted to a couple of the
other comedians who have dealt with him that you know,
that's just something he just hates. He's just a bit
of an ahole.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You probably, I guess.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You must have met some pretty big musicians touring over
the years.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I got a good one. Yeah. We were in Switzerland.
We did this festival and Smashing Punkins were playing, and
then their room actually ended up being right next to ours,
and we finished the gig early, did the rounds checking
out the festival, came back. I was a few drinks down,
(08:23):
so I was, yeah, confident, so confident. His bodyguard was
really into the Warriors and we were chatting about that.
A bodyguard, Yeah, tell them the one New Zealand Warriors.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah. He was a multifiler. So we were chatting, rocking,
see you later, and and then I peered through the
door and then there's Billy Corgan there just having a
nap and and I just kind of rocked in this.
I think I woke them up. Yeah yeah, I said hey, hey, hey, Billy,
(09:04):
and he got over. He was like, well he man.
I said, oh, I'm Daniel from the Black Seas. You know,
really fastar. We just played a girl. I've just got
the room next year. I just wanted to say I
just love the first two albums. Just that's too long ago.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
A lot.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Just made one album. You need to do a double seat.
Who knows what we're happening if I told him that.
But he was great. He was like, you know, he
had a bit of a chair, but he remembered. He said, oh,
New Zealand, I haven't been back there since the big
day out. And they never invaded us back, and I
was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think they would have invited you. I think they
would have invited like that open to inviting. I'm sure
it's pumpkins.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Sure. He was great. And then the bodyguards came in.
There was a there was a German bodyguard with the
multi fil and I just felt this huge hand just
grabbed my arm and I was like, oh, okay, because
I just wanted in there. They had done their job,
they hadn't done their job, and so they've probably been embarrassed.
And I just kind of looked at Billy, and Billy
was like, yeah, that's okay, that's okay. And he said, oh,
(10:14):
I guess this is where we do bones. And we
did bones and I said thank you, and that was that.
See you later. He was really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Billy Corgan asleep asleep.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
He probably probably.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Thought when you woke him that you were coming from.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I was pretty relaxed. But he was the older version
of Billy Corgan where he's got the whole black attire
and but it's a bit overweight. He's got the pot
belly and and that sort of hanging out underneath his
T shirt and but he was a lovely guy.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
It was a.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
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Speaker 3 (11:00):
More what's happening with Symphony? So you guys are a big.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, I mean we're playing at the show. When it
first got announced to us, we thought that we were
going to be playing with the symphony, which I thought, Wow,
that's that's quite a big task to do. But we're not.
We're just coming to play our tunes, which I think
is great. And it's an early show, and you know,
I'm from Auckland, so playing in the hometown show like that,
(11:28):
And that's going to be our last show of our
summer stunt, so it's going to be great. Going to
take my son and my mum along and they're going
to love that. And yeah, just really looking forward to
playing some new tunes and some old classics. And it's
a it's a it's only going to be like fifty minutes.
So that's that's an easy job for us, is it right?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
How many songs you get away fifty minutes?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Fifty minutes? Maybe maybe ten one instrumental really long.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So have you guys been in the studio recording anything
new at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, we released a song late last year, this track
called Compassion, and now we're just working on well, it's
pretty much finished this new track eight bit it's called
and so that's going to be released god, probably in
the next three weeks, so you hear about that. And
then we've got a whole lot of demos. You know,
we live all over the country. It's really hard to
get us all together in the one room. So over
(12:27):
the last couple of years we've got together down at
Wellington and recorded a whole lot of tracks and yeah,
we just need to get some vocals and more overdubs
over them. But we're pretty excited about it, you know.
So we're excited about that for the for the coming
rest of the year, we'll release singles along the way
and then and then we've got Canada coming up in June,
(12:51):
which is exciting based around this Victoria's scar Festival, and
so it'd be great to get back to Canada.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Is it a bit more like you mentioned releasing the singles?
Is it more of these days about just once you've
got a song put it out rather than compiling an
album because it's all online.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Right. Yeah, man, it's a funny one day. When we started,
you know, you know, we've been going, what is it
twenty seven years now? We started, you know, it was
it was album based. Yeah, we didn't have Spotify, we
didn't have these streaming services. So that's what we're focused on.
And then now recently we just made that decision like, yeah,
let's just release the singles. Let it's release tracks and yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Rather than waiting to have a random number the.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Whole package, yeah, which I think is healthy and keeps
us motivated to finish the blood yell.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And I feel like you guys do a lot of
overseas touring in the past.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You have, Yeah, Jeremy is the type of it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is it because of the genre of music that you're
playing that it's got an international appeal? Is that what's
going on? Because I mean not, there's not a huge
amount of New Zealand groups that are doing a whole
lot of international I.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Think it's all the work that we did over the years,
going back to like the just after the first album,
keep on pushing, Well, actually that was after on the
Sun and then we started to go to England and
I think we were going a lot twice a year
Europe and the States and just putting in that groundwork
has put our name out there on the international circuit.
(14:23):
So it's great to be us back. You know, we
possibly go back to Europe next year. So yeah, it's
all that sort of work.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Really.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I mean bands these days who are starting, I think
you've just you know, we get into complete debt from
going overseas, but you've got to get out there. And
because releasing a song is really not going to people
are going to play it, but they're not going to
it's seen you live, which is where they get convinced,
and being present out there, going out speaking to media
(14:55):
out there. So yeah, I think it's all that, all
that work that we've done in the past. I think
it puts that down to that and doing good shows
over there.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And well, where are some of the countries that you've
been you mentioned in the UK we're about. Is Germany
a big one for you guys?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Germany is great for us.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, they love Rega and stuff in Germany, they do.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, it always Ah, I think there's there's I don't
know in a lot of countries. They love reggae music,
reggae dub music.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I don't associate Germany with you know what I mean produces.
Germans probably hadn't this, but I just hof yeah, David.
But then they've also got just a massive low and
know Fat Freddy's tour a lot over there. Seed I
think that's a German reggae band.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They French or yeah, maybe French, European European, yes.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
With about five hundred people in the band. But yeah,
so I don't know what it is about Europe. They
just they just love.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It, yeah, I mean, and like I said, we've just
got to get out there and play to them. And
we're really grateful to get back to Canada. There's a
there's a massive scene there as well, you know, I mean,
regae is I think you know, Bob Marley did the work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. You did
(16:17):
always think Bob, Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And so you guys are all living in different places
and that must be cool as well, because you're if
you're not seeing each other a whole lot, and then
all of a sudden you get together back to tour
and go overseas again.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, that must be cool it is. I mean, it's
an amazing bunch of guys. There's eight of us. I mean,
if we're around each other, I would think that we
would still have great relationships. But I mean when we
get back together, it's it's it's like getting back with
old mates. It's just hanging out and doing a doing
a great job. And it's and it's the same in
(16:55):
the studio. Yeah, I'm very grateful.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Does it take much practice or rehearsal at this point
or could you guys just walk into a room and just.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wow, that's a funny one. I know, we've been put
into this situation where we can't rehearse all the time.
So it's like everybody rehearse at home. But and then
you know, the set list will get changed to what
what do we really know? But we've been doing it
for so long the way that if we do add something,
and we'll try and do it at sound check, right, yeah,
(17:29):
and if it works there, then okay, let's let's keep going.
And you know, a lot of eye contact, a lot
of you know, come on, here's the change, right, So
MOR's coming up. So I think it makes you a
better musician, just been that intensity on stage. That's you know,
to make it right. Yeah, doesn't. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So it's all happening in Auckland Domain Minucure Fuel Symphony Saturday.
That's not the said day, but the following Saturday, Saturday,
the twenty first of March. There's still some tickets available.
It's always yes, it's always a good vibe and popular.
Obviously you've got the Black Seeds, shape Shift Exponents, nice
and shape Shifting, Faithless Saga, Bellly Belle Harmony going on.
(18:16):
It's a it's a fantastic event, Daniel, thank you so
much for coming on. Jeez, guys, lovely to see you
and and best of luck with the gigs.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, thank you very much. Keep up the great work, guys,
walking were coming. Compassion must.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Daniel Weatman from The Black Seeds joins us this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Daniel, how are you im good? Thank you? Yeah, very good.
Thanks for coming in.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I hear you've got the morning off your normal job
this morning to do the to do?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Are you doing the rounds or just you guys exclusively?
Just to you guys. Wow, we don't wait what we are.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're super lucky and your work normally, Daniel, is I.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Do height installs. Supervise some young lads to do high
installs like installing excess letters to your roofs, anchors on
the roofs, pathways and stuff like that. So a lot
of hepwork.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
So like the guys, there's some of them out there
at the moment repelling down the side of the building.
I think they're cleaning the windows. Yeah, but that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, I don't supervise that. I used to hang off buildings,
but I don't know's it's only so much of that
you can do.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I used to get very nervous doing that day you
really Yeah we're afraid of heights?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, well yeah, what a strange profession to go into
if you're afraid of heights.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I kind of fell into it really. I was
working for a sign installation company and the guy said, hey,
we're going to I'm going to pull all the boys
through their tickets to do irata. That's one of the
seats that you can get. And I said, yeah, I'll
do it. And I didn't really think about it enough.
I knew we were going to be hanging off buildings,
(01:28):
but it's yeah, it's quite complicated. It's in the tense.
Five days of training and yeah, I did it. And
then I guess as you you know, you hang off buildings,
you get used to that feeling of the fair and
then once you're there where you just got to do
the work and kind of look at what you're doing
in front of you rather than looking down.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, have you seen that thing on Netflix, that guy
that Alex Honald, the free solo guy. Have you seen
that he climbed I have Type one O one is
like the second biggest building in the world. That is terrifying.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean he's next level though, but just this the stress.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That like the butthole puckering when you're watching this and
then the drone shots around it as someone who's been
up like, what did you think when you were watching
it bring back some trick?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, it definitely brings it back, and you feel it
in your body for sure. I mean yeah, I mean
that's he's a unique individual, isn't he. Yeah, but you
would have to be. I think it's I think it's
a great thing to do to face your fears, such
as anything in life and when you're hanging off a
building and having to use your tools and do the job.
(02:33):
I think I think it's helped me in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I like to face my fears, Daniel, but generally
not in a physical sense. So I think like I'm
facing them. Well, I think in a mental sense, you know,
like things.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
That you worry about.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But physically I feel like that's my that's my brain
saying you shouldn't be up there doing that, and your
brain does right, and my brain is right, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So you just like to think about them rather than
do them.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, there's a lot I mean in a broadcasting sense,
you know, where you're worried about how something might play out,
how that might affect you.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Your for the wrangles.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Then yeah, then that's something that you can face and realize.
Oh okay, well I was always going to survive that.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, it's funny because that's what I was thinking when
I came to the interview. It's always a bit of
nerve wrecking to come and speak, but you know, you
have to do it. And I think it's the same
as ab sailing. I had to go over the bit,
I had to do the job. I had to get
over the building and facing that fear was great.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Is there going to be any ab sailing that you
could incorporate into the Black Seeds performance perhaps?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I mean, have you considered a concert from the side
of a building.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I saw Jane's Addiction at Lolapalooza not long ago, and
they had people on these like like strings basically strings probably,
and they were just flying out into the crowd out
dressed in kind of bondage gear as they would you
(04:04):
and and sort of getting kind of and some were
attached like to this skin like.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, it was quite full on.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Any plans for that for the Black Seeds.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Through the skin, through the skin like like hooks, hooks
through the skin, and they were they were been flowing out.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Wow, the whole the whole game.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I love that j adiction. I mean that would have
been that sounds amazing, But for the Seeds probably not.
I get a bit nerdy when I go to gigs
and see how they're rigged up and there's this, you know,
all the lighting gets rigged up by reggas who do
EBB sailing. Usually I sort of check out that. But
(04:49):
for the Seeds, no. I mean, going back to when
I was like eight, my parents took me to see
Lionel Richie and he had that song dancing on the
ceiling and then half of the alder, half of the
people that were playing on stage actually got pulled up
on wires like that.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
At the end of the concert. Yeah, it was quite
where did you see Lionel Richard Western Springs?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah it at Lionel's Linel was just like Linel loomed large.
That would have been like eighty five eighty six. Ye
vibe man, he loomed large of over nineteen eighty five
eighty six. And he's on the other world at the
time as well.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Just after that, I mean, he put the whole thing together,
didn't he.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Linel basically yeah, Lionel, Lionel We interviewed Lionel the while back,
and he is one of the nicest, most charming people
you'll ever meet in your entire He's one of the
you know what the with the list of kind of
celebrities that you meet, the real top of the top,
like the Linel Riches of the world, the nicest people.
(05:56):
They are always like the AAA's are always the nice,
most charming, like ridiculous people you've ever met. And they
just have a gift. They'll remember your name. They'll call
you your name during the interview in order like you're
sort of overwhelmed, you know, is your name, and seems
to keep remembering it the whole time during the interview.
(06:16):
And then I find that it's not kind of the
case with everybody, but but guys like him, You're like,
oh man, you've got the gift.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Like the now, I want to know who was the worst?
Can you say?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, No, I'll openly say I think it's I think
it's fair.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Remember Barker, really exactly Barker. He's on flight of.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
The concourse, the flat mate.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think, yeah, well here that here the bandana, and
he was like the American.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I think he's Canadian, such a Dick, and it was like,
what is up with that guy?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
He turned up?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He turned up just like you did today, Daniel, exactly
the same and.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Repelled into the building and.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Was here to promote something like he was wanting to
sell tickets to a show and just kind of acted like,
I don't know, like he just did not want to
be here at all and was a real we're just asking,
just trying to have a chat like we're having now,
and he just shut everything down, like completely shut everything.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Was like, oh, you're coming here to promote your thing.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
We don't really care that much about ash, Like I
don't really care that much about as chat. Always happy
to chalk, and he was like, man, it was weird.
And then afterwards we chatted to a couple of the
other comedians who have dealt with him that you know,
that's just something he just hates. He's just a bit
of an ahole.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You probably, I guess.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You must have met some pretty big musicians touring over
the years.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I got a good one. Yeah. We were in Switzerland.
We did this festival and Smashing Punkins were playing, and
then their room actually ended up being right next to ours,
and we finished the gig early, did the rounds checking
out the festival, came back. I was a few drinks down,
(08:23):
so I was, yeah, confident, so confident. His bodyguard was
really into the Warriors and we were chatting about that.
A bodyguard, Yeah, tell them the one New Zealand Warriors.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah. He was a multifiler. So we were chatting, rocking,
see you later, and and then I peered through the
door and then there's Billy Corgan there just having a
nap and and I just kind of rocked in this.
I think I woke them up. Yeah yeah, I said hey, hey, hey, Billy,
(09:04):
and he got over. He was like, well he man.
I said, oh, I'm Daniel from the Black Seas. You know,
really fastar. We just played a girl. I've just got
the room next year. I just wanted to say I
just love the first two albums. Just that's too long ago.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
A lot.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Just made one album. You need to do a double seat.
Who knows what we're happening if I told him that.
But he was great. He was like, you know, he
had a bit of a chair, but he remembered. He said, oh,
New Zealand, I haven't been back there since the big
day out. And they never invaded us back, and I
was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think they would have invited you. I think they
would have invited like that open to inviting. I'm sure
it's pumpkins.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Sure. He was great. And then the bodyguards came in.
There was a there was a German bodyguard with the
multi fil and I just felt this huge hand just
grabbed my arm and I was like, oh, okay, because
I just wanted in there. They had done their job,
they hadn't done their job, and so they've probably been embarrassed.
And I just kind of looked at Billy, and Billy
was like, yeah, that's okay, that's okay. And he said, oh,
(10:14):
I guess this is where we do bones. And we
did bones and I said thank you, and that was that.
See you later. He was really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Billy Corgan asleep asleep.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
He probably probably.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Thought when you woke him that you were coming from.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I was pretty relaxed. But he was the older version
of Billy Corgan where he's got the whole black attire
and but it's a bit overweight. He's got the pot
belly and and that sort of hanging out underneath his
T shirt and but he was a lovely guy.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
It was a.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
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Speaker 3 (11:00):
More what's happening with Symphony? So you guys are a big.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, I mean we're playing at the show. When it
first got announced to us, we thought that we were
going to be playing with the symphony, which I thought, Wow,
that's that's quite a big task to do. But we're not.
We're just coming to play our tunes, which I think
is great. And it's an early show, and you know,
I'm from Auckland, so playing in the hometown show like that,
(11:28):
And that's going to be our last show of our
summer stunt, so it's going to be great. Going to
take my son and my mum along and they're going
to love that. And yeah, just really looking forward to
playing some new tunes and some old classics. And it's
a it's a it's only going to be like fifty minutes.
So that's that's an easy job for us, is it right?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
How many songs you get away fifty minutes?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Fifty minutes? Maybe maybe ten one instrumental really long.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So have you guys been in the studio recording anything
new at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, we released a song late last year, this track
called Compassion, and now we're just working on well, it's
pretty much finished this new track eight bit it's called
and so that's going to be released god, probably in
the next three weeks, so you hear about that. And
then we've got a whole lot of demos. You know,
we live all over the country. It's really hard to
get us all together in the one room. So over
(12:27):
the last couple of years we've got together down at
Wellington and recorded a whole lot of tracks and yeah,
we just need to get some vocals and more overdubs
over them. But we're pretty excited about it, you know.
So we're excited about that for the for the coming
rest of the year, we'll release singles along the way
and then and then we've got Canada coming up in June,
(12:51):
which is exciting based around this Victoria's scar Festival, and
so it'd be great to get back to Canada.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Is it a bit more like you mentioned releasing the singles?
Is it more of these days about just once you've
got a song put it out rather than compiling an
album because it's all online.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Right. Yeah, man, it's a funny one day. When we started,
you know, you know, we've been going, what is it
twenty seven years now? We started, you know, it was
it was album based. Yeah, we didn't have Spotify, we
didn't have these streaming services. So that's what we're focused on.
And then now recently we just made that decision like, yeah,
let's just release the singles. Let it's release tracks and yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Rather than waiting to have a random number the.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Whole package, yeah, which I think is healthy and keeps
us motivated to finish the blood yell.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And I feel like you guys do a lot of
overseas touring in the past.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You have, Yeah, Jeremy is the type of it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is it because of the genre of music that you're
playing that it's got an international appeal? Is that what's
going on? Because I mean not, there's not a huge
amount of New Zealand groups that are doing a whole
lot of international I.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Think it's all the work that we did over the years,
going back to like the just after the first album,
keep on pushing, Well, actually that was after on the
Sun and then we started to go to England and
I think we were going a lot twice a year
Europe and the States and just putting in that groundwork
has put our name out there on the international circuit.
(14:23):
So it's great to be us back. You know, we
possibly go back to Europe next year. So yeah, it's
all that sort of work.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Really.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I mean bands these days who are starting, I think
you've just you know, we get into complete debt from
going overseas, but you've got to get out there. And
because releasing a song is really not going to people
are going to play it, but they're not going to
it's seen you live, which is where they get convinced,
and being present out there, going out speaking to media
(14:55):
out there. So yeah, I think it's all that, all
that work that we've done in the past. I think
it puts that down to that and doing good shows
over there.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And well, where are some of the countries that you've
been you mentioned in the UK we're about. Is Germany
a big one for you guys?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Germany is great for us.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, they love Rega and stuff in Germany, they do.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, it always Ah, I think there's there's I don't
know in a lot of countries. They love reggae music,
reggae dub music.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I don't associate Germany with you know what I mean produces.
Germans probably hadn't this, but I just hof yeah, David.
But then they've also got just a massive low and
know Fat Freddy's tour a lot over there. Seed I
think that's a German reggae band.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They French or yeah, maybe French, European European, yes.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
With about five hundred people in the band. But yeah,
so I don't know what it is about Europe. They
just they just love.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It, yeah, I mean, and like I said, we've just
got to get out there and play to them. And
we're really grateful to get back to Canada. There's a
there's a massive scene there as well, you know, I mean,
regae is I think you know, Bob Marley did the work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. You did
(16:17):
always think Bob, Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And so you guys are all living in different places
and that must be cool as well, because you're if
you're not seeing each other a whole lot, and then
all of a sudden you get together back to tour
and go overseas again.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, that must be cool it is. I mean, it's
an amazing bunch of guys. There's eight of us. I mean,
if we're around each other, I would think that we
would still have great relationships. But I mean when we
get back together, it's it's it's like getting back with
old mates. It's just hanging out and doing a doing
a great job. And it's and it's the same in
(16:55):
the studio. Yeah, I'm very grateful.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Does it take much practice or rehearsal at this point
or could you guys just walk into a room and just.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wow, that's a funny one. I know, we've been put
into this situation where we can't rehearse all the time.
So it's like everybody rehearse at home. But and then
you know, the set list will get changed to what
what do we really know? But we've been doing it
for so long the way that if we do add something,
and we'll try and do it at sound check, right, yeah,
(17:29):
and if it works there, then okay, let's let's keep going.
And you know, a lot of eye contact, a lot
of you know, come on, here's the change, right, So
MOR's coming up. So I think it makes you a
better musician, just been that intensity on stage. That's you know,
to make it right. Yeah, doesn't. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So it's all happening in Auckland Domain Minucure Fuel Symphony Saturday.
That's not the said day, but the following Saturday, Saturday,
the twenty first of March. There's still some tickets available.
It's always yes, it's always a good vibe and popular.
Obviously you've got the Black Seeds, shape Shift Exponents, nice
and shape Shifting, Faithless Saga, Bellly Belle Harmony going on.
(18:16):
It's a it's a fantastic event, Daniel, thank you so
much for coming on. Jeez, guys, lovely to see you
and and best of luck with the gigs.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, thank you very much. Keep up the great work, guys,
walking were coming. Compassion must.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Welcome with compassion must becomment fashion
Speaker 1 (19:01):
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