July 28, 2026 • 17 mins
Today on the Pod, the guys chat about fixing racism and they also talk about the commonwealth games.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The Hurdarki Breakfast podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Come along to the first part of the Cherry the
first podcast to see the Sun, the first to see
in a new day of the Day of Our Lord.
The twenty ninth of July twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The common Games on and one of my favorite events
to watch is the weightlifting and that's on right now.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And my favorite weightlifting event the women's sixty nine kgs?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes, yep, this is? Is that? What this is? Yep?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Actually I actually prefer the women's open.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Well, what about the sixty three kg's too late?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Boring?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Okay, yeah, I think forty nine is what it goes
down to, because that's the one that Lane tried to beat,
actually did beat?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I present you holy o'she from's Chevron jib.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Jib.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's called switch.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I don't know. Gibralt it Oh, thank you minuch.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Gibraltar.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's a place country?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is that a place in.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The in the Commonwealth Games?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I guess like a music video from hold on Gibraltar
is a country. Yeah, okay, well I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Know that it necessarily is, is it? Because the Commonwealth
Games is just countries.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Well is it?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Or is it or is it colonies?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
It's just a self governing overseas territory of Britain.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Britain pass off. Well, that's what The Commonwealth Games has
always been a bit janky to me. It's like who
gets to be in it? Who doesn't? Like you said yesterday,
the Republic of South Africa is and closing the name
shouldn't be at the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Good work England getting Gibraltar, well, you got to say impressive.
Impressive controlling Gibraltar.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You would also say if if you're Welsh, oh she's
from Wells.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I didn't see what her name was.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
England controlling whales, yeah, good work. Do they still.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Control the whales?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Welsh?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah? Well should the Welsh are into it?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Are they? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The worst? Quite likely? They love it? Yeah, the worst
because of England and Wales is the same kind of
thing like that.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's not like Coral and jeesus, no Welsh people listen
to this year, but bluddy the Welsh shutting down your door, mate, the.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Welsh of the Welsh. The Welsh are all good with England.
It's not like Ireland.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, is different. That's not my experience of Wales. What
the Welsh people I went to, because I didn't know that.
When I was over there, I was like, I was like,
you know, early twenties, and so I didn't know. I
honestly thought, they don't need my passport when I drive
into Wales. I didn't know it's a different country. So
should you know? One morning we woke up, we happened
(02:50):
to have crossed the border into Weirs, and we were
at a petrol station and one of the boys is
making a coffee and you know, there's self served coffee machines.
God they suck. He's making one in there and he
couldn't work the machine and he's starting to get real past.
He's like, how do I get the bloody? And this
guy comes charging out from behind the counter, this Welsh guy,
(03:12):
assuming we were English, and he goes, if you don't
like the way we do things, you can fuck off
back to England. Whoa yeah, and he was and he
was the guy like the running the petrol station.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Was it all in Welsh and stuff?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
No, at it's a fucked up language, that one. That is.
By the way, the word from microwave poppty ping, is
it poppy ping and the poppy ping, and well that's.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
A bloody good name for it, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It's very automatic because it was.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Running the Welsh down. But that's bloody. I love that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
My ndlaws are still calling the waste disposal the gobbledygook.
Excuse me, I feel like that's I know, racist, Yeah,
sob so do I I'm just bringing it to attention.
I don't report the news. I am the news.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I've just realized that that is a racist to I
never thought of that is racist.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Racist When you tell you a cleaner to get it
speck and span racist?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What's speaking span?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I reckon we should have a segment on the show
Ruder explains racism aha, and we just find a journey
and find a term and you just work it through
and we talk about the origins of it and why
it's racist.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And yeah. For example, the other day when I go
back from Australia and I brought those gifts back, the
ladies out in the kitchen had a clean up of
the kitchen and put all the things. For some reason,
my bag was on the desk and they just swept
all the stuff off the desk into my bag. Ended
up taking your present back home with me.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I thought you'd stolen it, no, I know, and I
was like, you read thought, you know what, you got
a good prison.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And you know, there's a term for giving someone a
gift and then taking it back, which is horribly racist.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Can I is it the subcontinent or is it the
greater part of America?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That continental America? Because because their origins of it is
you gave us all this land and then you know
your bloody want to take it back, which is I
think one of the most horrific.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's you know, it's a shaka for so many reasons,
but also to lump everybody in with the same everybody
was the same, no, very different, different people, different languages.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
What about that whisper game you played at school?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
What's that called the telephone game? It's called the telephone game?
I think, isn't that is that one? I feel like
that's I don't know why. I don't feel like that
one's too laden with negative connotation. So here's the here's
the difference between Monacaw's explains. Let's say if I can
(05:59):
lend this, yeah, we are in a safe enough space
to have a crime. Difference is it's intent every action
should be judged by the sentiment from which it proceeds.
What do you what were you trying to do? Were
you trying to offend someone? That's what makes something racist
or not.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
For example, if you say that a certain ethnicity is
more prone to certain diseases based off the stats, that's
not racist. That is a fact. Now if you like, say,
for example, you know diabetes, that's just that's I've represented
the stats. We can go to the reasons for that whatever.
That's not racist. If you hide your keys and wallet
(06:40):
when someone with the diabetes walks past, that's racist. Do
you know what I mean? Do you see the difference? Yes,
the difference, and that's and those are the differences. So
if the idea of the the thing such as the
telephone game, the original telephone game, I don't think it's
because that race is particularly bad at communicating. But if
(07:01):
it is, then that is definitely a racist. Okay, So
that's that's money.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'm actually just trying to work out where, so where
that why it was, why it was that particular country whispers.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Someone will be able to tell us, and that it
will be a horrifically racist the idea.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Being maybe that people from that particular country can't speak English. Well,
is that where it must have come from? There? I
don't know, that must be why it's there. It doesn't
make sense, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Is it because the end phrase is so far away
from the beginning phrase that you might as well have
been speaking Chinese? That Yeah? Maybe, like as an English
speaking person, maybe it was the.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Furthest away in terms of cultures at the time that
you could get. And so as an explainer, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Far.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, it started as one thing and it ended up
in a completely different place. And when that ideas sort
of originated, there weren't many people who had been to Asia. Yeah,
because it was it was considered you know, very very foreign.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Can all this episode the Racism Official where we dip ours?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Have you ever dug deep into the origin of the
left arm leg spinner?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Jerry? Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, so the West Indian whose last name was I
believe a Chong.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I'm gonna how sure of that? It'd be crazy for
you to just plug a name out of the.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
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Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's an honor.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that was just a description m M
Alice a Chong.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And that's how Alice a Chong bowl name puss. So
why don't you bowler Puss? See you telling me, Chris
Harris Bolts.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I mean it may have been the Puss and then
it just never took on. It never took off, like
poor to Spain. He's all right, yeah, Well why was
he all right?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Because he was born in the Port of Spain. Well,
because I was a bit worried that he was born
in China.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, that's why he was of Chinese descent, the first
person of non Chinese descent to play in test cricket.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Cricket never took off in China.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It's a it's a I mean what, first off, what
sport has taken off in China? Let's start there. The
second good question, Well, and I can explain a little
bit of this, and that is communism. So think about
the obviously not the Commonwealth Games because none of the
communist countries are in there. But when you think about
which is why you're seeing Welsh people in the weightlifting
(09:54):
thing and the Olympus you'll never see a Welshman at
the weightlifting. Those are dominated by Communist countries. The sports
no one watches. So it's like fucking figure skating, weightlifting,
all types of wrestling, all that ship that nobody watches
because Americans aren't going to do it if there's not
a dollar on it. So they dominate all of the professionals.
But so basketball, you're boxing, UFC, that kind of stuff,
(10:18):
whereas the Communist countries is just like we they there's
no money in any sport, so they just do the
manly at ship.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
They can bear wrestling.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, beer wrestling does real. Well.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm just thinking about all the common countries is if
they're any that didn't take on cricket.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think there's a few.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh she's winded old, what's her face turn up?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Amy, why she's doing well? Oh my god, Amy White
house lifting.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
She didn't die, she just got onder some heavy squats.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
They're trying to make her go to Reham.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
When she got injured, she said, I want to look
at some Commonwealth countries and see if they play cricket
or not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, Well that's that's the funny thing about nipples. I
don't think there's a non Commonwealth country in the world
that plays it, is it? Uh? These are questions?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, not really, yeah, not really. America was just a
little bit too late to the party with cricket. Would
be interesting if America ended up playing cricket instead of baseball,
Like what a powerhouse of cricket they would have bed.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah. But like I've always said, I think you've only
either got room for cricket or baseball. Yeah, no person
has room in their brain for both sports. Yeah, they're
both too weird. Yeah, and everything just went a bit
skew with in America.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But they took it on. They were big enough that
they could just have their own sports.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah that no one else plays. And it's fine, yep,
because they're that big.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's the World champs man, Yeah, the World Champion World Series.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Did you find any of.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The Yeah, well, I'm just looking at the middle table. Australia, Tech, England, tick, Canada,
Like how much are we saying they play?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
That's interesting they don't play cricket.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Scotland by default. Nigeria kind of is tricky because it's
hard to play because it's too kind of cold.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Too gold and never never took off in Africa other
than South Africa and Zimbabwewe.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, a good point. Never took off on the other
African too rainy to forests, otherwise foresty.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Is it only the plainy Is it the plainy African country? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Maybe the plainy Africa, because yes, Sri Lanka it took off,
and that it's pretty rainy. Play cricket, so Dan No Morocco, No,
it's Morocco Commonwealth.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
No, I'm just some gun through Africa, right, I'm going
up and down the Gamut.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Not enough water probably Egypt gongle, egypt.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Na too jungly, too jungly too.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But then when you start getting into the Middle East,
now ironically they are playing a lot of cricket and
that's because of the Indian influence. Oh man, Yeah, I
watched one hundred man game of cricket and the way
it was crazy. Oh yeah, it's click village, clickerty. And
in the Middle East, I.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like those having heaps of people on the field cricket games.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It was smoker at a building site, yeah, and the
and the lot next to them was empty and they
had they were using a lot to store a bunch
of you know, building materials and ship, but they had
made sure to keep it clear so that it's smoker.
They could go down and play a bit of cricket.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's great because you don't chase a ball around the field.
There's no running. Nah, there's no running in neither heading
sexes or that's about it. And and also competently, you
really value your batting space because once you once you're out,
it's very hard.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, and the bowlers go so hard to the craziest
array of actions and they and they bowl hard too.
They were sucking all arms and legs.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, I've found that. I've seen a lot of Indian crickets,
you know, played in villages and stuff like that, and
they play with a hard ball and no pads, and
those guys are amazing off their pads. And then when
all of a sudden, I think a lot of them
get to the point where they have got pads on,
They're like, this is so easy. Now, yeah, I'm not
even swinging, No, I'm just going to just just time it. Actually,
(14:24):
I saw the other day a young there's always crazy
cricket videos that come out of India that seem to
find their way onto my Instagram and just these insane
child prodigies. Yeah, like three year olds who are just
batting like session Tindoka.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I wonder that about their kids that's in the IPL.
The sixteen year old fifteen sixteen year old? How the
hell does that happen? Not just like because he's so good,
so young? How do you get discovered in a country
of a billy? I guess because everyone's playing cricket, But
there's something about this kid.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think you've got to be quite amazing. But also
when you get the one point six billion or whatever
it is now one point six billion people and all
mad for one thing, Yeah, and the cricket is really
the only sport in India, then you get this insane talent.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Poul I was reading. I read the first two chapters
of Waszmachrom his book, and then got bored and put
it down. Ah, but he leaned that to me. I'm
going to get back at it. But yes, he it
was net bowlers. Generally, most people say they would ever
town they go to, they're like, hey, whoever the best
(15:34):
cricketers are, can you send them down here? And his
brother was very good cricketer, and his brother couldn't go
for whatever reason and they said, oh, my brother's all good,
so send him down. And then they were like, holy shit,
look at this dude.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, because he's playing an eighteen.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And so they were like Jesus, check
this kid out. And obviously a prodigious mover of the
ball even back then, giving a lot of shape. I
think that's one of those innate things you don't get
to pay whether you can do that or not.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I think, nah, that's just one of those gifts. You
can deliver the ball scene up or not, and it's
all about resposition. But he was tall as well and
real lively when he first turned up, because he came
on that tour to New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Was the first wind he hit Lance Kens in the head.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He did he did with the cricket ball and just
did he did he swallow his tongue for a while, Lance?
Or was you in Chatfield?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I feel like he scorned you in Chatfield as well.
Real quick bouncer because it comes out of nowhere and
he just had to amble in and then just wheps
it down. Love bowlers like that.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, oh mate, I'll chuck his highlights on when I'm drunk. Yeah,
should I think it's hey, sorry racists, we just fixed racism.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Did we do it?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I knew we could do it.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
We could do it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
In open heart. I knew we could do it.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
We've been trying it for as a as a species
the ten thousand years. And it was a half assed
podcast in New Zealand at five thirty in the morning
that finally did it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Come along to the first part of the Cherry the
first podcast to see the Sun, the first to see
in a new day of the Day of Our Lord.
The twenty ninth of July twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The common Games on and one of my favorite events
to watch is the weightlifting and that's on right now.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And my favorite weightlifting event the women's sixty nine kgs?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes, yep, this is? Is that? What this is? Yep?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Actually I actually prefer the women's open.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Well, what about the sixty three kg's too late?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Boring?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Okay, yeah, I think forty nine is what it goes
down to, because that's the one that Lane tried to beat,
actually did beat?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I present you holy o'she from's Chevron jib.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Jib.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's called switch.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I don't know. Gibralt it Oh, thank you minuch.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Gibraltar.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's a place country?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is that a place in.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The in the Commonwealth Games?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I guess like a music video from hold on Gibraltar
is a country. Yeah, okay, well I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Know that it necessarily is, is it? Because the Commonwealth
Games is just countries.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Well is it?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Or is it or is it colonies?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
It's just a self governing overseas territory of Britain.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Britain pass off. Well, that's what The Commonwealth Games has
always been a bit janky to me. It's like who
gets to be in it? Who doesn't? Like you said yesterday,
the Republic of South Africa is and closing the name
shouldn't be at the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Good work England getting Gibraltar, well, you got to say impressive.
Impressive controlling Gibraltar.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You would also say if if you're Welsh, oh she's
from Wells.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I didn't see what her name was.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
England controlling whales, yeah, good work. Do they still.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Control the whales?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Welsh?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah? Well should the Welsh are into it?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Are they? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The worst? Quite likely? They love it? Yeah, the worst
because of England and Wales is the same kind of
thing like that.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's not like Coral and jeesus, no Welsh people listen
to this year, but bluddy the Welsh shutting down your door, mate, the.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Welsh of the Welsh. The Welsh are all good with England.
It's not like Ireland.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, is different. That's not my experience of Wales. What
the Welsh people I went to, because I didn't know that.
When I was over there, I was like, I was like,
you know, early twenties, and so I didn't know. I
honestly thought, they don't need my passport when I drive
into Wales. I didn't know it's a different country. So
should you know? One morning we woke up, we happened
(02:50):
to have crossed the border into Weirs, and we were
at a petrol station and one of the boys is
making a coffee and you know, there's self served coffee machines.
God they suck. He's making one in there and he
couldn't work the machine and he's starting to get real past.
He's like, how do I get the bloody? And this
guy comes charging out from behind the counter, this Welsh guy,
(03:12):
assuming we were English, and he goes, if you don't
like the way we do things, you can fuck off
back to England. Whoa yeah, and he was and he
was the guy like the running the petrol station.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Was it all in Welsh and stuff?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
No, at it's a fucked up language, that one. That is.
By the way, the word from microwave poppty ping, is
it poppy ping and the poppy ping, and well that's.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
A bloody good name for it, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It's very automatic because it was.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Running the Welsh down. But that's bloody. I love that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
My ndlaws are still calling the waste disposal the gobbledygook.
Excuse me, I feel like that's I know, racist, Yeah,
sob so do I I'm just bringing it to attention.
I don't report the news. I am the news.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I've just realized that that is a racist to I
never thought of that is racist.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Racist When you tell you a cleaner to get it
speck and span racist?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What's speaking span?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I reckon we should have a segment on the show
Ruder explains racism aha, and we just find a journey
and find a term and you just work it through
and we talk about the origins of it and why
it's racist.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And yeah. For example, the other day when I go
back from Australia and I brought those gifts back, the
ladies out in the kitchen had a clean up of
the kitchen and put all the things. For some reason,
my bag was on the desk and they just swept
all the stuff off the desk into my bag. Ended
up taking your present back home with me.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I thought you'd stolen it, no, I know, and I
was like, you read thought, you know what, you got
a good prison.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And you know, there's a term for giving someone a
gift and then taking it back, which is horribly racist.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Can I is it the subcontinent or is it the
greater part of America?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That continental America? Because because their origins of it is
you gave us all this land and then you know
your bloody want to take it back, which is I
think one of the most horrific.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's you know, it's a shaka for so many reasons,
but also to lump everybody in with the same everybody
was the same, no, very different, different people, different languages.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
What about that whisper game you played at school?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
What's that called the telephone game? It's called the telephone game?
I think, isn't that is that one? I feel like
that's I don't know why. I don't feel like that
one's too laden with negative connotation. So here's the here's
the difference between Monacaw's explains. Let's say if I can
(05:59):
lend this, yeah, we are in a safe enough space
to have a crime. Difference is it's intent every action
should be judged by the sentiment from which it proceeds.
What do you what were you trying to do? Were
you trying to offend someone? That's what makes something racist
or not.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
For example, if you say that a certain ethnicity is
more prone to certain diseases based off the stats, that's
not racist. That is a fact. Now if you like, say,
for example, you know diabetes, that's just that's I've represented
the stats. We can go to the reasons for that whatever.
That's not racist. If you hide your keys and wallet
(06:40):
when someone with the diabetes walks past, that's racist. Do
you know what I mean? Do you see the difference? Yes,
the difference, and that's and those are the differences. So
if the idea of the the thing such as the
telephone game, the original telephone game, I don't think it's
because that race is particularly bad at communicating. But if
(07:01):
it is, then that is definitely a racist. Okay, So
that's that's money.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'm actually just trying to work out where, so where
that why it was, why it was that particular country whispers.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Someone will be able to tell us, and that it
will be a horrifically racist the idea.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Being maybe that people from that particular country can't speak English. Well,
is that where it must have come from? There? I
don't know, that must be why it's there. It doesn't
make sense, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Is it because the end phrase is so far away
from the beginning phrase that you might as well have
been speaking Chinese? That Yeah? Maybe, like as an English
speaking person, maybe it was the.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Furthest away in terms of cultures at the time that
you could get. And so as an explainer, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Far.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, it started as one thing and it ended up
in a completely different place. And when that ideas sort
of originated, there weren't many people who had been to Asia. Yeah,
because it was it was considered you know, very very foreign.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Can all this episode the Racism Official where we dip ours?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Have you ever dug deep into the origin of the
left arm leg spinner?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Jerry? Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, so the West Indian whose last name was I
believe a Chong.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I'm gonna how sure of that? It'd be crazy for
you to just plug a name out of the.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
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Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's an honor.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that was just a description m M
Alice a Chong.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And that's how Alice a Chong bowl name puss. So
why don't you bowler Puss? See you telling me, Chris
Harris Bolts.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I mean it may have been the Puss and then
it just never took on. It never took off, like
poor to Spain. He's all right, yeah, Well why was
he all right?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Because he was born in the Port of Spain. Well,
because I was a bit worried that he was born
in China.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, that's why he was of Chinese descent, the first
person of non Chinese descent to play in test cricket.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Cricket never took off in China.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It's a it's a I mean what, first off, what
sport has taken off in China? Let's start there. The
second good question, Well, and I can explain a little
bit of this, and that is communism. So think about
the obviously not the Commonwealth Games because none of the
communist countries are in there. But when you think about
which is why you're seeing Welsh people in the weightlifting
(09:54):
thing and the Olympus you'll never see a Welshman at
the weightlifting. Those are dominated by Communist countries. The sports
no one watches. So it's like fucking figure skating, weightlifting,
all types of wrestling, all that ship that nobody watches
because Americans aren't going to do it if there's not
a dollar on it. So they dominate all of the professionals.
But so basketball, you're boxing, UFC, that kind of stuff,
(10:18):
whereas the Communist countries is just like we they there's
no money in any sport, so they just do the
manly at ship.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
They can bear wrestling.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, beer wrestling does real. Well.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm just thinking about all the common countries is if
they're any that didn't take on cricket.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think there's a few.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh she's winded old, what's her face turn up?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Amy, why she's doing well? Oh my god, Amy White
house lifting.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
She didn't die, she just got onder some heavy squats.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
They're trying to make her go to Reham.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
When she got injured, she said, I want to look
at some Commonwealth countries and see if they play cricket
or not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, Well that's that's the funny thing about nipples. I
don't think there's a non Commonwealth country in the world
that plays it, is it? Uh? These are questions?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, not really, yeah, not really. America was just a
little bit too late to the party with cricket. Would
be interesting if America ended up playing cricket instead of baseball,
Like what a powerhouse of cricket they would have bed.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah. But like I've always said, I think you've only
either got room for cricket or baseball. Yeah, no person
has room in their brain for both sports. Yeah, they're
both too weird. Yeah, and everything just went a bit
skew with in America.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But they took it on. They were big enough that
they could just have their own sports.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah that no one else plays. And it's fine, yep,
because they're that big.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's the World champs man, Yeah, the World Champion World Series.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Did you find any of.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The Yeah, well, I'm just looking at the middle table. Australia, Tech, England, tick, Canada,
Like how much are we saying they play?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
That's interesting they don't play cricket.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Scotland by default. Nigeria kind of is tricky because it's
hard to play because it's too kind of cold.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Too gold and never never took off in Africa other
than South Africa and Zimbabwewe.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, a good point. Never took off on the other
African too rainy to forests, otherwise foresty.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Is it only the plainy Is it the plainy African country? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Maybe the plainy Africa, because yes, Sri Lanka it took off,
and that it's pretty rainy. Play cricket, so Dan No Morocco, No,
it's Morocco Commonwealth.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
No, I'm just some gun through Africa, right, I'm going
up and down the Gamut.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Not enough water probably Egypt gongle, egypt.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Na too jungly, too jungly too.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But then when you start getting into the Middle East,
now ironically they are playing a lot of cricket and
that's because of the Indian influence. Oh man, Yeah, I
watched one hundred man game of cricket and the way
it was crazy. Oh yeah, it's click village, clickerty. And
in the Middle East, I.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like those having heaps of people on the field cricket games.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It was smoker at a building site, yeah, and the
and the lot next to them was empty and they
had they were using a lot to store a bunch
of you know, building materials and ship, but they had
made sure to keep it clear so that it's smoker.
They could go down and play a bit of cricket.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's great because you don't chase a ball around the field.
There's no running. Nah, there's no running in neither heading
sexes or that's about it. And and also competently, you
really value your batting space because once you once you're out,
it's very hard.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, and the bowlers go so hard to the craziest
array of actions and they and they bowl hard too.
They were sucking all arms and legs.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, I've found that. I've seen a lot of Indian crickets,
you know, played in villages and stuff like that, and
they play with a hard ball and no pads, and
those guys are amazing off their pads. And then when
all of a sudden, I think a lot of them
get to the point where they have got pads on,
They're like, this is so easy. Now, yeah, I'm not
even swinging, No, I'm just going to just just time it. Actually,
(14:24):
I saw the other day a young there's always crazy
cricket videos that come out of India that seem to
find their way onto my Instagram and just these insane
child prodigies. Yeah, like three year olds who are just
batting like session Tindoka.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I wonder that about their kids that's in the IPL.
The sixteen year old fifteen sixteen year old? How the
hell does that happen? Not just like because he's so good,
so young? How do you get discovered in a country
of a billy? I guess because everyone's playing cricket, But
there's something about this kid.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think you've got to be quite amazing. But also
when you get the one point six billion or whatever
it is now one point six billion people and all
mad for one thing, Yeah, and the cricket is really
the only sport in India, then you get this insane talent.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Poul I was reading. I read the first two chapters
of Waszmachrom his book, and then got bored and put
it down. Ah, but he leaned that to me. I'm
going to get back at it. But yes, he it
was net bowlers. Generally, most people say they would ever
town they go to, they're like, hey, whoever the best
(15:34):
cricketers are, can you send them down here? And his
brother was very good cricketer, and his brother couldn't go
for whatever reason and they said, oh, my brother's all good,
so send him down. And then they were like, holy shit,
look at this dude.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, because he's playing an eighteen.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And so they were like Jesus, check
this kid out. And obviously a prodigious mover of the
ball even back then, giving a lot of shape. I
think that's one of those innate things you don't get
to pay whether you can do that or not.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I think, nah, that's just one of those gifts. You
can deliver the ball scene up or not, and it's
all about resposition. But he was tall as well and
real lively when he first turned up, because he came
on that tour to New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Was the first wind he hit Lance Kens in the head.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He did he did with the cricket ball and just
did he did he swallow his tongue for a while, Lance?
Or was you in Chatfield?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I feel like he scorned you in Chatfield as well.
Real quick bouncer because it comes out of nowhere and
he just had to amble in and then just wheps
it down. Love bowlers like that.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, oh mate, I'll chuck his highlights on when I'm drunk. Yeah,
should I think it's hey, sorry racists, we just fixed racism.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Did we do it?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I knew we could do it.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
We could do it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
In open heart. I knew we could do it.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
We've been trying it for as a as a species
the ten thousand years. And it was a half assed
podcast in New Zealand at five thirty in the morning
that finally did it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And I catch the radio show from six two teen weekdays,
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