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March 23, 2026 • 17 mins

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Jerry and Manaia return from Byron Bay with some tales of a breath work session which took them to a vulnerable and humbling place.

 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The HURDARKI Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here we are again.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's going to adopt a podcast position, fellows.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Can I do that too?

Speaker 4 (00:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Please?

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Ye, a little bit of guess out of the strut there.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
No, no, I've got a question for you to again
the podcast. Sorry today? No, no, no, that's all right every time.
I mean, it doesn't change the same size. Very vanilla
question for you on reflection. You went to Lincoln Park
last week. You gave it a seven out of ten
on reflection. Do you think that was about right? Or

(00:34):
have you now been like, actually, it was a lot
better than I thought out of ten. I'm just wondering
because you're wearing a Lincoln Park.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Actually, this is the first time I've seen this T
shirt because I bought it on the Blind the one
I wanted to buy they didn't have. When you said
the blind, the.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Blind drunk, Yeah, when you were at the Lincoln Park.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
When I was at the Lincoln Park concert, blind drunk. Okay,
after allegedly sixteen beers. I think my miss has really
enjoyed it. She was stone cold, sober, and she was
seated broas I was down in the mosh pitt So
my experience of it, I can't differentiate the performance, their
performance from my performance. I had a lot of fun
in the mosh pit. What it was, I would say,

(01:17):
I know. I think Minogue described them as like a
Linker Park tribute band because there's a few people that
aren't in there, and it definitely I think someone else
said that it had a little bit of a Christian
rock feel to it. It was way more like yeah,
way less ominous than what a Linkoln Park concert would
have been back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
What happens when a vocalist leaves a prominent band that
really changes sound. Actually, interestingly, I thought the same thing
when I saw Fleetwood Mac and Neil Finn was playing.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
You really ruined them?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
No, I did not think that he ruined Well I was.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Before, isn't that when you called him Neil fucking fun?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You saw the making jokes about that He will actually listen,
he listens to this podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Sorry, Neil, We love your son.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Actually, we really like neilpin. He's very nice to us.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
We like Neilphin. It's you that's keep saying he ruined
Fleetwood mad.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
But when you have a vocalist that's not there, particularly
even if it's a person who's mainly doing harmonies, and
then it definitely does sound quite different. Yeah, you can
get a dude tune up and change even guitar ing, yeah,
or bass certainly, I mean Metallica great example of new
bassis turning out no problems there.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah it is. It's weird. It's a different, different
sort of thing, but I'll probably stayed around a seven.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
The Christian rock things interesting because yeah, you do think
about Lincoln Park being all this angst and fighting against
the world, and it's like, we're down a Christian rock now, guys.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's what made it, That's what made what it was.
You felt like Chester was gonna do something at any
given moment, and then he did, and so you were right.
But yeah, it just didn't quite have the same sort
of Yeah, I don't know, but I never got to
see them. I was too young when they when they
came through, and so now these years later to be

(03:16):
able to go with my mates and scream the mosh
bit what have you liked?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Want them to play one particular album back to back,
because I know that that would be great for me
with a lot of bands, like, for example, of Tool
turned up and said, right, we're going to play Enema.
I'd be like, oh, that would be so good because
I don't know how much of the new stuff. Although
I was listening the other day I thought, you know what,
I need to listen to a bit of the new stuff.
And it's good, but it doesn't evoke the same childhood

(03:45):
yeah memory, And when I hear it all, I think
it's the same as Tall for me is like linker
back for you, I think. So it conjures up the
feelings of freedom. That's the big one that I get
of the idea of when you just left, when you've
left school and you're on that zone where where all

(04:06):
of a sudden the sky's element you can kind of
do anything. It's a brave new world. There's an optimism,
but there's also an angst.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah. Well I was like me and Pete like I
was saying, we got that album or he got that
album when we were like leaving.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Twelve, so you weren't leaving home And no, we weren't
leaving home.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
We were just we were hanging out with the other
that'd be sad, Actually we're hanging We're just hanging out
in the room playing Halo on Xbox and and actually
he had a caravan back then, he had a caravan.
He didn't have twelve. His parents had a caravan, but
it was pucked and the ship that had this giant
ship and the caravan was pucked in then. So some
weekends we'd go and weill stay in the caravan with

(04:47):
the Xbox in the caravan thresh like a park play
but a Halo on the Xbox. That's cool and that
is about as good as life giins.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, no, that's pretty good at what twelve or was
this a good old thirteen fourteen?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah? All through high school. Yeah, but it started off.
Oh see why that's fine. Does no, not on the dories,
not on the does got the passively down there they
back in the day when Xbox has had the cables
on the control that were wireless now, but it used
to be cabled. As we'd play Halo, and the befour
of us saw, you know, more playing and when you die,

(05:20):
you hand the controller over to the other guy. It's
your turn, blah blah blah, and you would play until
all of the chords were just braided. That'd be in
a thick braid along the middle, and then we'd have
to stop the game and untangle them and then go again. Yeah,
those are very fond memories, you know. Yeah. And actually
Peter got married last year and the night before all
the groomsmen stayed there and we played Halo all night,

(05:41):
did you Yeah, we've had a very nostalgic year. Actually,
she's then gun scream our lungs out in Lincoln bo
oh yeah, can I can I share a little behind
the scenes story from the wellness retreat. We talked about
Sophie and we went to her her breathwork then conscious
flow breathwork if you're looking for it.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And Byron.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I was in the first uber worth Josh and Sean
and shout out to Josh and.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Two of the winners that came away. There were Carl
and Richard as well and Nathan and his wife.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Liz, and we were the first uber. It took us
three of us to get out to Sophie's place, three ubers.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
We were nine I got because you can't go five
and yeah, And when we got there, we hopped out
and there were people milling about in the driveway.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Sophie's husband and then a couple of other people who
I presume we're probably the group booking before us. Maybe
I don't know. They all looked like they were going
to a breath work workshop. We did not. I think
one of at least one of us was in like
a warrior's shirt. Like we all hopped out. We've basically
been on the purse and then we hopped out, and
the flash of fear across her husband's faces is like,

(06:56):
looked at us, We looked at him. There wasn't a
lot of signage, so we didn't really know. We're like,
we're in the right place.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Did he think you guys were coming in to sort
of take some things?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah? He was like I thought you were. He goes,
what do you I said, we're just here for Sophie's
breath work. Sure, and he was like, oh, thank god
God for that. He goes, I thought you'd come to
fight me. We were like, what He's like, I was
giving ready to fight. I was looking at him like
respect the hustle brother. We were rolling.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh, there's no doubt about that. Particularly you sure, Yeah,
because we're sending three people like Jack Richard and Sewn
and Josha the roofers and so yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Even when we got on the uber with Stuart shout
out to Stewart out uber driver and as soon as
we got in and he's like, oh so because he
saw my name pop up on his phone. He's like, sorry, man,
I don't know how to say that name where he
goes from New Zealand. He's like, oh, yeah, what are
you over here for? It was like breathwork And he's like, oh, sure, wouldn't.
I wouldn't have picture you guys for the breath work type.

(08:02):
And believe him, nah, he didn't. I was like I
was trying to, but it just got weirder and weird
because I was like, yeah, I worked for a radio
station and these guys have won a trip to come
over here for a breath work shop. And he's like
those two guys in the back roofers in the ober here. Yeah,
He's like, and what is the prize to come and

(08:23):
hang out with you? I was like, oh, I think
that's probably the punishment.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
But Jerremy Wells and Manaia Stuet find them on Instagram
at Hodaki Breakfast. Jerry and Mania joined the complay the
Hordaki Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more, what.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
About John, our uber driver very kindly whacked six of
us because what was where we were Roda was about
twenty minutes out of Byron Bay in the in the bush,
and to get out there we had to take ubers.
As when I said, but then the ubers don't really
want to come in from Byron Bay to come out
twenty minutes to take you back again, so they kept

(09:00):
bloody canceling after Like, so I would say, I'd get
my thing ready to go and then say, yep, your
uber's going to arrive in twenty one minutes, and I'll
be like, oh, I can I suppose we can wait
twenty women standing on the side of the road by
the way, yeah, and then snakes fifteen minutes in the
person would finish their other job. You'd see them finish
their other job, and then they'd click on the next thing,

(09:21):
and then they realized that it was twenty minutes out,
and then they canceled. Yea, And might happened twice.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
And you guys are waiting for three ubers and you're.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Already waiting, Yeah, you've already been waiting for that time
for it to cancel. Well, Delia is getting dark.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, Deli had already jumped and hers gave us the
finger and bounced, and then Jerry's one canceled twice twice.
Mine took twenty something minutes. So by this stage, and
because as we said before, the breathwork thing talk about
two hours and so the sun was setting, we're in
the WAPs of Barron Bay. There are were not even
in Barron Bay anymore at this point, snakes, spiders.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Frogs, and so this was the Sunday evening and you
guys are flying on the Monday morning that morning.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yet Okay, Luckily we were so fucking zin we didn't care.
And then when my uber driver got there, he was like, well, like,
can you fit us in the boot? And he's like, yeah,
you two?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Oh cool.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
He had two spear seats, thankfully.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Thank god he was in a holding capt eva.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
But the other thing he said, he was grateful he'd
done a bit of breath work himself.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh my god, he was grilling me.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I couldn't be bothered. I was sitting in the front seat,
and I'm usually good for it. In the front seat
of an uber, I often said, in the front seat
and I'll chat away with the driver and Yeah, he
really just chewed my I was trying to give him
the whole He was like, what kind of breathwork? Was
not sure? Sorry, man's my first time doing it. Don't
really know. Was it like holotropic? I was like, again, sorry, man,

(10:47):
I don't really know what did what did you? I
was like trying to give him the online up for
this yarn, like, I'm in a pretty chill spot, pretty
zin feeling pretty relaxed. You're starting to pass off.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
He was in. He was operating in another level, wasn't he?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
It was because Jerry gets at it. He goes, so,
we just had a couple of guys canceled on us,
and he goes, how do you know that? How do
you know that? Do you work for Ober? And he
was real serious about wanting to know whether Jerry worked
for Ober and had some sort of insider information.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
And Jerry's like, no, I just put two and two
together and know how it works.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I've had a few cancel them. He's like, ah, right,
well to pull you behind the curtain. Yeah, they do
cancel them. And everyone's like, yeah, there's no like grand
conspiracy that we'vencked the code.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I know. He was very interested in my mate, the
Marty Jesus. Oh, yes, man, he was interested in the
Mary Jesus's interested in end of mind that lives over
the Marty Jesus. But he was super interested in him.
Why they call him the Marty Jesus. Yep, And he's
like Jesus. And whether he called himself the Mardy Jesus
or other people call him that, it's like, no, he's not.

(11:48):
He didn't call himself that.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
You don't call yourself.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, just he's turned water into wine and he feed
the five thousand months. He split the loaves and twelve
loaves and sex fishes. How many loaves?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm not sure. Did he ever go on the cross?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
No, he's not been cross. He's drawn the line at
going on at crucifying himself.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Which is like in for opinion for a pound mate,
you know, to the Jesus, like you to crucify yourself
of thorns whole day.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Has he had a big weekend and then come out
of a cave.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh, he's definitely done that.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
He's definitely done that. Sorry, I'm just scrolling through.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, I'm also looking at her Instagram. I see her
the snakes be loved husband.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, he's the one who was going to fight me.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
She doesn't name him, don't say he looks like Manya.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Jewish Manyah, he's a little like he's Peruvian. And the
sweet little puppy Amy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
He's an reskew dog doesn't like men.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
He does not like men, presumably really did not like me.
Had a couple.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, it's pretty close to the husband. There a sweet
little puppy Amy, Yeah that was that was cute dog.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Actually, actually, rud have you got the lovely Sophie from
Conscious Flow breath Works Instagram? There? Have you got her details?
Because I remember remember we spoke to because I need
to give her details to one of the people who
came with us. I need to connect her and one
of the people who one of the one is.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Oh yeah, well I was going to connect them strangely
on her website. Yeah, her actual phone number is on it.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Why did you do we email either?

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, I've got an email that would be great.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
If you could flect me her email via the WhatsApp
would be good, and then I can WhatsApp it to
whoever needs it. Yep, to whoever whoever may need ancient
You know, she looks different than the photos of.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, I remember having this chat with you, and because
you said the kind of person that she was, and
we thought, oh, that's really coming across in the photos.
And then suddenly we looked at her reels and we
saw some videos of her and we're like, okay.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I I don't want to be involved in this.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, I don't think I was involved in It was
just you. It was you and Mesh. Well, that makes
sense that the old.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Ben chicken over there.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh mate, he was doing some good work, the old
ben Chicken in the bomb chicken being.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Chicken eating the vomb. We saw all sorts of saw koala.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yep koala, wild turkey, ben chicken, snake, dolphins.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
No spiders, bets, the bets bets, the beats, trees.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, and they were waking up in the morning. Actually,
they must have been arriving from last night and then
sittings settling, and they were settling in for the night
because for the day, sorry for the.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Day maybe, but they were all, oh my god, the
fucking freaking they were huge men. They were like, honestly
like rugby bull size. These bats.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
They were huge, massive bats and you could see through
them because they went in the sun and you could
see through their wings with their with their hands.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
And the X ray. Yeah, it was so freaky. That's so gross.
And we were trying to do like a we've did
try to record a little video, being like, oh look
here we are getting in touch with nature.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And as soon as one took off, we both Are
they an ancient animal? The bat? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I don't know. Yeah, I will say the fucking freaky
when you see them in real life.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
We weren't bats, were we We were we were shrews
when we were weird like during times of dinosaurs. We
were a weird little shrewy thing. Isn't that right?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Then monkeys, well, up.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Until recently I thought we all lived used to live
in caves with the shrews. Yeah, yeah, what is a shrew?
The bats?

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Living bets do live in caves.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Not these ones. These trees live on trees, man, Some
bets of in trees. Our little one, now, a little
bat here that we've got in New Zealand, our silly
little bat, horrific little thing have I have?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I just made a john too good light. Yeah, generalization,
I claimed all bats used to live in caves and
you guys.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
You still live in caves?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Batman. Batman's got a cave guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
We're we shrews who sure we were?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Some people are from Shrewsbury.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
What's your thoughts on Shrewsbury biscuits?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Man?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Not a big biscuit guy, not a big just baking
in general. I don't love it. I've got a savory scorn.
But sure that probably.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Someone brings you a banana after anna, banana walnuts and
that thing.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
The last common ancestor of today's placental mammals, a group
that includes humans, whales, armadillos, was probably a shrew like
creature with a long snout.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Well there you go.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
We went bats eight inches.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's like a great place to leave that.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Okay, delete that.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
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